KR> Corvair College #37, Chino CA

[mbflys]

Some images from Corvair College in California  Day 1

Watch this video on Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/163910556

Marc Baca

KR> Corvair College #29

[Bill Zorc]

I'll be coming up from VRB, and hope to run my 3000cc engine... My fourth CC.

Bill Zorc
772-713-0607 cell

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> On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Paul Visk  wrote:
> 
> Just wondering if anyone is going to CC #29 in Leesburg Fl. this weekenk. 
> I'll be there to observe.  I'll be working on my engine at CC #30
> 
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville, Il
> 618-406-4705
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KR> Corvair College #29

[Paul Visk]

Just wondering if anyone is going to CC #29 in Leesburg Fl. this weekenk. I'll 
be there to observe. ?I'll be working on my engine at CC #30


Paul Visk
Belleville, Il
618-406-4705

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KR> Corvair College #20

[Pete Klapp]

Roy

A BIG THANKS to you, Mark, William, the airport staff and everyone that helped 
make Corvair College #20 such a great success !!!

Great weekend, good food, wonderful friends  It just doesn't get any better 


There isn't another group that can that can boast the kind of helpful members 
that the Corvair motorheads have.

I'm another step closer to getting my project in the air. Thanks to everyone 
that helped me reach this goal.

Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK,
Canton, Ohio

KR> corvair College #20

[Mark Langford]

I should mention that there's a $79 fee for attendance, but that mainly pays 
for your meals.  William has historically held these "Colleges" for free, 
but after realizing how disruptive it is to have people drifting off in 
search of lunch and dinner that the meals are now catered.  Everybody sits 
down together to eat.  These affairs are "total immersion" into Corvair 
engine building.

No pressure from me, but a good opportunity for those considering the 
Corvair

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> corvair College #20

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

Here's a reminder that registration for Corvair College 20 ends tonight at 
midnight CST.  If you're considering or planning on using a Corvair engine in 
your KR, you'll get a big head start on it by attending this or another college 
 It might help to know that it's not a bunch of sheep sitting at desks while 
William Wynne preaches to the flock, it's about learning about, building, and 
testing Corvair engines.  Some folks will show up with grungy old engines and 
learn to tear them down, others will bring pristine parts they need "blessed" 
(assessed) by the experts, some will start building, others will finish 
building their engines, and still others will hang their completed engines on 
one of two engine test stands and run them and perform the initial break-in 
under the supervision of William or Roy.There will probably be 20 or more 
engines in some stage of construction spread out in the hangar.  William will 
have impromptu "here's how you do this" discussions as various builders arrive 
at critical assembly points.  

This one's going to be in Michigan at Hillsdale airport (KJYM) June 3rd, 4th, 
and 5th.  Joe Horton, Mark Jones, and I plan to fly our KRs in for the occasion 
(weather permitting).  For more info, see halfway down 
http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html .  To register, visit 
https://cc20.wufoo.com:443/forms/corvair-college-20-registration/ .

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com 

KR> Corvair College #19

[Mark Langford]

As Joe Horton reported, he showed up at my place early Friday and put in two 
solid days of hard work getting my plane in shape to fly to the Barnwell South 
Caroline Corvair College.  It was fantastic to have Joe helping...he did the 
engine installation perfectly, and with no direction from me at all.  It was 
amazing.  He also replaced a control cable  that got dragged 40 miles down the 
highway to probably within a 64th of an inch of the "go-by" aileron cable.  
That's not as easy as it sounds because my installation (which is far from 
"maintenance freindly) doesn't allow for measuring the cable because it wraps 
around an inaccesible pulley out in the wingtip.  Thanks again to Joe...it 
would have been a month before I was flying again had he not shown up to help.

There are lots of stories to tell about that whole affair, but the biggest one  
that might help others is the ELT incident.  Apparently when I set the tail 
down off the saw horse to roll the plane out of the hangar, I dropped it hard 
enough to set off the 406Mhz ELT.  It wasn't until a half hour later that I put 
on my headset and heard the 5 watt bleed-over warbling sound of the ELT did I 
check the ELT and turn it off.  So you can imagine the chain of events after 
that...an Air Force major from Air Force Rescue calling down my list of 
contacts, which started with my house (got the sleeping son and also got his 
attention), who called my wife at work, then the AF major called my father, all 
with the phrase of something like "we have an emergency locator signal from 
N56ML and are trying to contact Mark Langford".  For the first time, I got a 
real tone of concern when she called me on my cell phone.  She got a lot 
happier after I told her it was a false alarm, but the moral of the story is 
put YOUR cell phone number first on the list, because chances are that it'll be 
set off accidently way more times than due to a crash.  If they can contact you 
first, it'll save a lot of concern in the family!  The other takeaway is that 
this system really works, and it's FAST!

It was another great Corvair College though, with several new CorvAircraft 
engines roaring to life for the first time.  The test stand was in constant 
use, with a waiting list to run new engines.  It was great to see everybody 
again, and I apologize for getting there late and leaving early.  I was trying 
to beat weather on my end, and I came very close to spending the night in the 
same town I stayed in on my way the CC a couple of years ago...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com 

KR> Corvair College #17 in Orlando

[Mark Langford]

Those who are interested in using the Corvair as a powerplant might be 
interested to know about the Corvair College that'll be held March 18th through 
21 in Orlando.  For more info see http://www.av-mech.com/av-mech_014.htm , and 
for coverage of previous colleges see .  I'm already registered...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 

KR> Corvair college

[n92...@cox.net]

I'm on my way after my Starbucks stop. 

Steve Glover
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I was just wondering if anyone from the group was coming to the corvair college 
today and if so what time will you be arriving?


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KR> Corvair college

[Dan Heath]

Sure, I will be there, probably around 4, 4:30.  And I have heard from Mark
L. the he will be there and expects Joe H. to arrive a little after he does.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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I was just wondering if anyone from the group was coming to the corvair college 
today and if so what time will you be arriving?


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KR> Corvair College

[da...@alltel.net]

Only if I get if finished and installed on the plane. For now, it is just a 
side project. I think, for the most part, it is a pretty neat engine. The VW 
does have some things that are a lot better, like the accessory case, but I 
think with the fifth bearing options, it is now a viable option for an airplane 
engine. In fact, I think that the WW and Roy bearings are better than anything 
on a VW.

 "jg7...@mindspring.com"  wrote:

=



>
>
> Dan Heath wrote
>
> Next to the KR Gathering, this was the best week end that I can remember.
> Thanks to all the Vair people, WW and his wife, and Ed Fisher for a
terrific
> time.
>
> Dan,
Does this mean we have a Corvair convert on our hands?
Joh


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> 
>
> Dan Heath wrote
>
> Next to the KR Gathering, this was the best week end that I can remember. 
> Thanks to all the Vair people, WW and his wife, and Ed Fisher for a
terrific
> time. 
>  
> Dan, 
Does this mean we have a Corvair convert on our hands?
 Joh

KR> Corvair College

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Oh for got to say  thank you to those that I can remember helping me yesterday, 
Mike H., Mark L, Dan W. Ron and I think another Ron And a host of others that 
were all to kind to offer a helping hand.
Thanks -- Joe

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KR> Corvair College

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

Hey Guys,
I just got home from CC #12. I was able to get there in m hay ghetto cruiser 
after a grueling 5 hr flight straight into the sun all afternoon Friday and a 
couple stops because I wasn't sure which I was going to run out of first (Sun 
light or fuel). Ed Fisher lives on a beautiful private park and he and his wife 
were incredible hosts. His life story could fill a full camp fire evening 
easily.
Saturday a problem was discovered with the fifth bearing that I installed about 
5 weeks ago and all day Saturday was spent installing an entirely new set up 
and I'll have 25 to 30 hours on this one in 4 or 5 weeks again.
I met many new friends this week end and several old ones that the relationship 
grew. All you guys that I met and shook hands  with remember your number cause 
I can not remember your names. 
The trip home with a brand new major part on the engine was just a little up on 
the anxiety scale that usually does not bother me. I wind at 9500 feet was a 
very good tail wind but something funny was going on with buffeting. I circled 
down through a cloud hole at Danville Va. cause I thought I was loosing my 
prop. When I got below the clouds it all got smooth again so I continued on 
from airport to airport just in case.  Around Skyline Drive I climbed back up 
to 9500 and flew for about 150 miles there again and the same buffeting was 
happening although I stuck it out longer and found it was not continuous so i 
think it was something in the air.  4 hrs and 10 min to home including a 20 min 
fuel stop. The new fifth bearing seems to be OK so far.
I just can't go without saying what a great group of men were there  this week 
end. The level of experience and the expertise in all kinds of fields of 
industry is incredible and the common thread that I noticed was that the group 
as a whole were all achievers and can do attitudes that i am certain got them 
along well in their lives. I met John Kerneey for the first time and another 
stand out was Anthony who proudly serves America, I think is rank is Captain 
Purple. There were several other stand outs but me and names don't get along 
well. Just thank you all for sharing your lives with me for the weekend I will 
always cherish it.
Joe Horton,
Coopersburg, Pa.



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KR> Corvair College

[Dan Heath]

Well, I just got back from Corvair College.  I met some really good people
and learned a little.  Mark L. and Joe H. were there along with Dan Weisman
( don't know if I got that right ), who made one of the Fifth Bearings and
flew in with his Vair powered Sonex.  I spent Friday night, all day Saturday
 and this morning at the event. Today's trip was the longest, because I flew
the KR in, from Columbia Downtown.  I only live 5 minutes away, so went by
truck, both other days.

I have to say, that there is no better group of people, other than maybe the
KR group, that you will ever meet.

As the morning was coming to an end today, something strange happened.  I
bought a Corvair Core and manual.  Don't know if I will ever finish it, but
I surely will get a good start on it over the winter.  The best thing about
this one is, it was inspected by more than one expert in the field,
including WW.

Next to the KR Gathering, this was the best week end that I can remember. 
Thanks to all the Vair people, WW and his wife, and Ed Fisher for a terrific
time. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Corvair College coordinates

[Dan Heath]

Joe has the Control Vision ATC as do I, and it is in there.  Just type in
SC99. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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From: Mark Langford
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 11/06/08 23:20:41
To: KRnet
Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft
Subject: KR> Corvair College coordinates

I went out to the hangar tonight to get the plane ready to go.  I had the
altimeter out, had replaced the battery, did a little work on the cowling,
and the whole top of the plane was off.  When I left it, it was ready to hop
in, put my cap on, turn on the laptop, and head to SC99.  As I started to
leave I thought it might be prudent to go ahead and program the GPS for SC99
to save another few seconds, but it turned out to be more of a chore than
that.  The database didn't recognize SC99, but fortunately I had coordinates
printed off from www.airnav.com .  For SC99, details are:

  FAA Identifier:  SC99
  Lat/Long:  33-57-50.N / 081-21-33.W
  33-57.83N / 081-21.55W
  33.9638889 / -81.3591667

  Elevation:  520 ft. / 158 m (estimated)
  Variation:  05W (1995)
  From city:  5 miles W of LEXINGTON, SC


I know at least Joe Horton will need to know this, since he also has a
Lowrance Airmap 1000 with the Jeppessen database.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
website:  www.n5...@hiwaay.net
email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net


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KR> Corvair College coordinates

[Mark Langford]

I went out to the hangar tonight to get the plane ready to go.  I had the 
altimeter out, had replaced the battery, did a little work on the cowling, 
and the whole top of the plane was off.  When I left it, it was ready to hop 
in, put my cap on, turn on the laptop, and head to SC99.  As I started to 
leave I thought it might be prudent to go ahead and program the GPS for SC99 
to save another few seconds, but it turned out to be more of a chore than 
that.  The database didn't recognize SC99, but fortunately I had coordinates 
printed off from www.airnav.com .  For SC99, details are:

  FAA Identifier:  SC99
  Lat/Long:  33-57-50.N / 081-21-33.W
  33-57.83N / 081-21.55W
  33.9638889 / -81.3591667

  Elevation:  520 ft. / 158 m (estimated)
  Variation:  05W (1995)
  From city:  5 miles W of LEXINGTON, SC


I know at least Joe Horton will need to know this, since he also has a 
Lowrance Airmap 1000 with the Jeppessen database.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
website:  www.n5...@hiwaay.net
email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net 

KR> Corvair College Nov 8th!

[Mark Jones]

Langford you need a root beer then you will be able to think straight.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
Web page: www.flykr2s.com
e-mail: flyk...@charter.net


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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Corvair College Nov 8th!


OK, let me try this again.  It's definitely Saturday, which I THINK is the 
8th, not the 7th...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
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email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net


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KR> Corvair College Nov 8th!

[Mark Langford]

OK, let me try this again.  It's definitely Saturday, which I THINK is the 
8th, not the 7th...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
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KR> Corvair College Nov 7th!

[Mark Langford]

The Corvair College will be Saturday the 7th, not the 8th.  Thanks to Dan 
Heath for pointing that out to me.

I just got back from another hour of flying.  I got to watch the cotton 
pickers turning white rows into brown ones, and do another eight touch and 
goes...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
website:  www.n5...@hiwaay.net
email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net

KR> Corvair College Nov 8th

[Mark Langford]

William Wynne will hold another Corvair College at Gilbert South Carolina 
(SC99) near Dan Heath's place in Columbia on November 7th.  Details are given 
at http://www.flycorvair.com:80/hangar.html .  Joe Horton and I plan to be 
there, among others.  Y'all come, ya hear?

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com

KR> Corvair College and then some.....

[william Clapp]

I am back home from another interesting and tiring week at the Corvair college 
in Edgewater Florida.  I drove down on Tuesday in my 66 coupe (corvair of 
course) and worked through Thurday night helping William Wynne assemble a 
couple of engines for customers and preping parts and stuff for the college.   
Thurday night I drove back home and then flew N41768 down to be there in the 
morning to finish test running an engine.  People started showing up that 
afternoon and planes began to fly in.  It was great to see Phil Maxon and Mark 
Langford.  Joe Horton showed up later on as well as the Personal Cruiser (cool 
single seater).   It was good to see three KRs together - planning on about 8 
for next years college.  WW made a challange to see who would have the most 
type of plane there next year - Zenith 601's or KR's.   There were three and 
three this time.
  The college format was a little different but more relaxing and easier on 
everyone.  About eighty people showed up and 9 corvairs flew.  The first 
corvair award was handed outcalled the Steve Jone's award (KR pilot 
extrordinair that died last year) it was awarded to Mark Langford (Congrats!) 
for the great accomplishment of 292 safe flight hours in one year.   I think it 
was great.   Every year the trophy will be passed to another Corvair 
achiever...whether for hours flown, safety advances, records made, or 
all-around nice guy/gal.   It is good for us to remember those who passed on 
before us in this way.
 A couple of cool things were the glass panel in Rick's 601way cool but 
still over my budget.   Mark showed off his also way cool chart/gps on the 
computer - I may have to go that route.  Mark, Gus, Phil, Joe and myself gave 
out a bunch of rides on both days of the college.   A lot of fun was had by 
all.  I believe there is an update at FLYCORVAIR.com  with pics and stats if 
you wish to look.
 I stayed behind after everbody left and helped clean up a little and pack 
for my trip back home.   I shall be returning to Corvair land later on this 
month to continue the work on the turbo installation in my KR - should be 
finished by the end of the year and test flown.  Still have much to do - and 
the twin to build.when I have time...

  Keep building and flying 


  Bill and 41768





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KR> Corvair College

[Mark Langford]

VairHeads,

This is a quickie report (I'll let others fill in the details), but I'm back 
from another excellent Corvair College.  The new format of WW building an 
engine from start to finish with a running commentary was excellent, 
resulting in a great education for engine builders (see 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/cc2006/061112326m.jpg ). I wish I'd 
listened in on more of it, but also enjoyed talking to other pilots and 
engine builders.  I met some more great folks, as usual.  I'm sure Grace 
will work up a web page when she gets a chance.  Those of you who missed it 
really missed a good one!

Those who noticed the exhaust leak on my number 4 cylinder may be relieved 
to know that I made it back without succumbing to carbon monoxide poisoning. 
I had a 40 mph headwind much of the way on the way back (and it would have 
been worse had I gone to my usual 10,500'), so it took me 5 hours of flying 
to get back home, although the weather was great otherwise. I occupied 
myself with some testing at 7500', since it was a 59 degree OAT day.   Based 
on what I learned today, I'm about ready to claim 162 mph as my "cruise" 
speed at 75% power.

Something I'm on the hook for is a report on how the engine/prop/spinner 
balancing went.  Ever since I put my homemade spinner/backplate on, I've 
wanted to have it balanced.  Arnold Holmes hooked up his vibration equipment 
and measured the vibration levels on my engine.  He started out at something 
like .500 inches/second (don't ask me to explain this) and ended up around 
.040" (I believe it was).  I was skeptical that I'd see much difference, as 
I already thought it was a pretty smooth engine.  Once settled in at 
altitude on the way back, it was absolutely amazing how smooth it was.  I 
balanced  a little flashlight on end on top of the panel, and it stood there 
for two hours until I dropped down into the turbulence to land at M38.  The 
exhaust pulses on the bottom of the plane are now the primary source of 
vibration, not the engine.  It feels so much better that I flew the last 
hour with the engine wide open, and it was really singing.  It was less 
buzzy and really felt happy at any rpm.  This is a real improvement, and I'm 
not just saying that.

Other news is the cat's out of the bag on how bad my landings really are, at 
least with a passenger and full fuel.  Fifty witnesses at least.  Nobody saw 
the squeaker on this end, however...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> Corvair College 9 update

[Oscar Zuniga]

William has posted the final three parts to the report (pictures and text) 
from Corvair College 9, parts III, IV, and V.  You can access them by 
scrolling to the bottom of the page, at http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9a.html 
and clicking on the parts you haven't seen yet.  The report was broken into 
parts for faster loading and easier reading.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> Corvair College No. 9

[Oscar Zuniga]

William has posted an update on the Corvair College on his website, at 
http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9.html .  The update has instructions regarding 
arrivals and parking, as well as a good breakdown of the main phases of 
engine construction and what you'll need for each phase.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR>Corvair College #9

[Mark Langford]

Dann Johnson wrote:

> If I remember correctly the Corvair College is this
> coming weekend

Nope...it's NEXT weekend, November 11th-13th.  See
http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9.html for lots more details.  I'll be there, as
well as at least two other KRs, so don't miss it!  It's a 400 mile trip for
me, and I'm going to brush up for it with a 300 mile trip to Pine Bluff
tomorrow...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Corvair College #9

[Oscar Zuniga]

William Wynne has posted details on the upcoming "Corvair College" No. 9, on 
his website at http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9.html .  The Corvair College is 
free, and is intended to give hands-on, in-the-shop experience to anyone 
thinking of building their own aero conversion of the Corvair, or in the 
process of doing so and wanting to learn how to do it.  Tips, tricks, tools, 
and techniques.

Included on the webpage are details on area motels.  Dates are Nov. 11-13 
(Veterans' Day weekend).  See the webpage for more info...

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> Corvair College #8

[Stephen and Janet Henderson]

Hello everyone,

Please don't forget that Corvair College # 8 will be on November 12-14. If 
you need more info, then visit http://www.flycorvair.com/cc8.html or email me 
directly. If anyone is flying into the Orlando airport and needs a ride there 
then let me know. I hope to see some fellow KR builders/flyers there so that I 
can put a name with a face.  

Thank you,
Stephen Henderson

KR> Corvair College #8

[Ray Fuenzalida]

I intend to go to Corvair College that weekend.  Will
be leaving from New Orleans.  Will try to fly in a
Cessna 152 but may have to drive.  Anybody on the way
that needs a ride, let me know. Maybe we can do
something.   Planning on leaving Thursday afternoon. 
Am also planning on camping but may go the motel
route, unsure as of yet.
Ray

--- Stephen and Janet Henderson 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Please don't forget that Corvair College # 8
> will be on November 12-14. If you need more info,
> then visit http://www.flycorvair.com/cc8.html or
> email me directly. If anyone is flying into the
> Orlando airport and needs a ride there then let me
> know. I hope to see some fellow KR builders/flyers
> there so that I can put a name with a face.  
> 
> Thank you,
> Stephen Henderson
> 
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