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Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532 I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those strings. Please help me in this.
Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice
The same result with: https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/toolpanel.po/translate/#unit=16372107
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Op 26-8-2013 19:53, Mr. Phan Anh schreef: The same result with: https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/toolpanel.po/translate/#unit=16372107 Did you log in ? It seems like I can submit the change to: Nút cuộn thanh tab, lùi về sau English text being : Tab Panel Scroll Button, backward Would you like me to try to submit this translation ? -- DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo extended security (F-Secure) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527 I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you can see it. rgds jan I. https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532 I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those strings. Please help me in this.
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On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened. It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown error, with a couple of other VI strings. I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the database. If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the string causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256 strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files. rgds jan I. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527 I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you can see it. rgds jan I. https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532 I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those strings. Please help me in this.
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Can you tell me more details about this? I was terrified by your email's content. UTF-8 is all set for my character's style. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened. It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown error, with a couple of other VI strings. I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the database. If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the string causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256 strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files. rgds jan I. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527 I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you can see it. rgds jan I. https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532 I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those strings. Please help me in this.
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On 26 August 2013 21:02, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Can you tell me more details about this? I was terrified by your email's content. UTF-8 is all set for my character's style. All the details are in my email. I just wanted to let you know that I had a similar problem so you can report it if it happens again. we both use utf8, it is possible to create multibyte character sequences accidentally using ctrl and shift (look in windows help for the exact combination), doing that may create non-supported multibytes which can be hard to find without help. rgds jan I. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 26 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, now it works, but I dont know what happened. It might not be something you did. I just managed to get an unknown error, with a couple of other VI strings. I suspect one or more vi strings contain a multibyte combination that are not defined in utf8, and that breaks firefox and probably also the database. If it happens again, I suggest you open an issue, with a link to the string causing the problem. Be aware the real problem might be +/- approx. 256 strings, it ifs a db issue. I dont think there are any pootle tools that can help, so an admin needs to either check the db or the po files. rgds jan I. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 26 August 2013 19:50, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Strange and Unable to save the strings https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371527 I just changes this one without problem. I added (jan) at the end so you can see it. rgds jan I. https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371529 https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/svtools/source/control.po/translate/#unit=16371532 I have tried to submit the translation online and even I downloaded the file, edit with poedit, then reupload, I cant change the content for those strings. Please help me in this.
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Vietnamese is now completed, I would like to receive a testing installation of my language. How can I do that? Please help.
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Subject: Request about the original PO file for all of AOO translation. _ I would like to have the original po file of AOO in English which doesnt contain any translation in it. Please send to me in a zip file.
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On 25 August 2013 22:16, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Wonders about error on checking of Ending punctuation https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sc/source/ui/sidebar.po/translate/#unit=16362946 I don't know about the reason why I got this issues. look at http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/pofilter_tests.html#endpunc Bear in mind many of these checks are false positives, it might very well be that your language uses less or more punctations than EN-US. See the checks just as a question mark, not as an error. rgds jan I. I got about 100 of those notification from Pootle.
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ok, got it. thanks. I have always worried about this. On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:22 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 25 August 2013 22:16, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Wonders about error on checking of Ending punctuation https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/sc/source/ui/sidebar.po/translate/#unit=16362946 I don't know about the reason why I got this issues. look at http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/pofilter_tests.html#endpunc Bear in mind many of these checks are false positives, it might very well be that your language uses less or more punctations than EN-US. See the checks just as a question mark, not as an error. rgds jan I. I got about 100 of those notification from Pootle.
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http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/ Here is a link to the forum in Vietnamese Localization. But sadly, this forum has been closed. Is there any chance that I can get the permission to reopen this forum? And who is in charge of this permission?
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On Aug 24, 2013 9:30 PM, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/ Here is a link to the forum in Vietnamese Localization. But sadly, this forum has been closed. Is there any chance that I can get the permission to reopen this forum? And who is in charge of this permission? I am not sure why you think is closed? it responds and you can register users and add posts. But there are no forum admins and no moderators, both needed for a forum to keep healthy. I am one of the vm-admins responsible for the technical setup of all forums but not content. So technically it is running, if not please advice me, whats not running. rgds jan i
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1. Here is a link about this action on locked-situation: Vietnamese forums are a spammers' paradise (View topic) • Apache OpenOffice Community Forumhttp://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102t=44333start=30 From this link, we can see that a bad situation about the controlling of mod/moderators for this native forums is bad. So the maintainers of OO (before Apache) decided to closed it, users have registered just seen it and this site was at the status of read-only. 2. Maybe, I am going to create a thread about this situation and volunteer as a moderator for reopening.
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Subject: Who is in charge of Vietnamese Translation? Since noone is currently joining in my native language, Am I in charge of my translation for VN?
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Name: Anh Phan Position: Vietnamese Translator Content: The meaning of Relief and No Relief __ I got the translation for Relief and No Relief. But I dont really know the meaning and the effect of those terms. So: 1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that: a. A normal of a word, then applied the Relief function b. A normal of a word, then applied the Non Relief function. 2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and I will look at the result after changing them. 3. Thank you.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry for the missing content as you have mentioned. But the point is, I worry about the differences at my current is 3x and the next 4x. Are there any differences between them?
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On 21 August 2013 12:48, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry for the missing content as you have mentioned. But the point is, I worry about the differences at my current is 3x and the next 4x. Are there any differences between them? There are a small number of 3.4 strings where the english text have changed (f.x all strings with Oracle and sun microsystem). They should all be marked as needs works. On the translate screen, you have a search filter at the bottom, use catagory needs work, then you should see all 3.4 strings that have changed. rgds jan I.
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Name: Anh Phan Position: Vietnamese Translator Content: The meaning of Relief and No Relief __ I got the translation for Relief and No Relief. But I dont really know the meaning and the effect of those terms. These are technical terms. They refer to text that appears to be raised or sunked into the page. OpenOffice mimics these real-world effects. So the allowed values of Relief are: No relief -- normal text Embossed -- this is when paper is stamped from behind to show a raised surface. You can see some examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_embossing Engraved is to cut an image into a surface. Like carved letters in stone. The word relief in this sense means: The projection of figures or forms from a flat background, as in sculpture, or the apparent projection of such shapes in a painting or drawing. Regards, -Rob So: 1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that: a. A normal of a word, then applied the Relief function b. A normal of a word, then applied the Non Relief function. 2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and I will look at the result after changing them. 3. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Phan ANh, Mr. Phan Anh schrieb: Name: Anh Phan Position: Vietnamese Translator Content: The meaning of Relief and No Relief There is a direct link to the actual record in the footer of Pootle. Please copy the link and post it here. Then it is clear, about what term you are speaking. Some English words have different meanings, dependent on the context. I can tell you then, what the meaning is. Kind regards Regina __ I got the translation for Relief and No Relief. But I dont really know the meaning and the effect of those terms. So: 1. Please Create a screenshot for me, that: a. A normal of a word, then applied the Relief function b. A normal of a word, then applied the Non Relief function. 2. If you guys dont like the idea of screenshot, just record your sreen and I will look at the result after changing them. 3. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 21 August 2013 19:52, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Translation Entry With spaces or Without Spaces _ 1.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.postalcode.Name.value.text Content of Entry: PostalCode 2.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.stateorprovince.ShortName.value.text Content Entry: StateProvi __ As you can see from above There were some entries ( I just quoted 2 of them, there are more), that I have a wonder. Assume, I have the string with the format XY, but XY is the combination from X and Y and X has the meaning Z in my native language, the same with Y with the meaning of T I want to ask that, when I translate the XY entry into my native language, what is the right format for my translation? Is it 1) or 2) 1. XY = ZT (without space between Z and T) 2. XY = Z T (with space between Z and T) When I worked with other projects on Transifex, I often use the 2) solution. The other maintainers of those project also give me the solution of 2). But I wonder: what is the solution/rule in AOO? When I look at the examples you provide XY, I would go for 2), but let me give you another example just to be sure: PostalCode would translate to post nummer in danish if used in a sentence, but if used as a indicated name it would be postnummer. so no rules without exceptions. I find this this is actually one of the more difficult parts of translation, some languages tends to split the words, where other use both prefix and postfix to modify the word. I hope this helps. rgds jan I.
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Content: Reply to Jani __ 1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my current translation. 2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID at the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it. From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to the mailing list. 3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I would like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th.
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On 21 August 2013 20:21, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Content: Reply to Jani __ 1. Thank you for your reply, that helped me a lot when dealing with my current translation. 2. I want to apologize to you because you have mentioned the StringID at the footer of each entry but I forgot to use it. From the next email, I will include the StringID to my issuse/wonder to the mailing list. no need to apologize, your last mail was perfect, and I found the strings within seconds. 3. As you mentioned, the deadline for my translation is Sep 6th. I would like to ask you about the time for the next release after Sep 6th. We dont have a fixed release date for 4.1, but my best guess (based on our discussions) is December/January. Please be aware, that you only need to complete UI, for getting it release, help can be translated later. rgds jan I.
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Hi Phan Anh, Mr. Phan Anh schrieb: Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content _ In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content inside. If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it? https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=16359748 The strings belong to the presenter console. To use the presenter console, you need to have a second monitor, usually a projector. Configure it so, that they are independent, not that the projector is a clone of your PC monitor. Launch Impress and load a presentation. Goto menu Slide Show Slide Show settings. In the lower part of the dialog you see the section Multiple Displays and a field with label presentation display. If you have configured the two displays correctly, this field is enabled and you can then choose which display shall show the presentation in full screen. Then start the presentation. The second monitor shows the presentation in full screen and your monitor shows the presentation console. In the presentation console, you have a button at bottom, right to call the help. The help is on screen and shows what shortcut keys have what meanings. The strings you have posted belong to this help. If the presenter console don't work for you, please ask here. If it is indeed an error, write an issue. The presenter console is no longer an extension but integrated and should work. You find it in source code in the folder main/sdext/source/presenter. Kind regards Regina _ There are: 1. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text 2. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text 3. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text 4. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text 5. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text 6. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text 7. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text 8. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text 9. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text 10. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text 11. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text 12. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text 13. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text 14. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Phan Anh, an addition that might help you: The issue 121873 has a macro attached. It is included into an empty text document. When you run that macro, your AOO installation is changed in a way, that it shows the presenter console when you run a presentation. When you run the macro a second time the change is reversed and you get the usual view of the presentation. With this macro you can explore the presenter console without a second monitor. Kind regards Regina Regina Henschel schrieb: Hi Phan Anh, Mr. Phan Anh schrieb: Content: Unecessary strings/entries without content _ In this url, I got about more than 14 entries that don't have the content inside. If they dont have the content inside. Why dont you delete it? https://translate.apache.org/vi/aoo40/officecfg/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=16359748 The strings belong to the presenter console. To use the presenter console, you need to have a second monitor, usually a projector. Configure it so, that they are independent, not that the projector is a clone of your PC monitor. Launch Impress and load a presentation. Goto menu Slide Show Slide Show settings. In the lower part of the dialog you see the section Multiple Displays and a field with label presentation display. If you have configured the two displays correctly, this field is enabled and you can then choose which display shall show the presentation in full screen. Then start the presentation. The second monitor shows the presentation in full screen and your monitor shows the presentation console. In the presentation console, you have a button at bottom, right to call the help. The help is on screen and shows what shortcut keys have what meanings. The strings you have posted belong to this help. If the presenter console don't work for you, please ask here. If it is indeed an error, write an issue. The presenter console is no longer an extension but integrated and should work. You find it in source code in the folder main/sdext/source/presenter. Kind regards Regina _ There are: 1. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Left.value.text 2. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.c.Right.value.text 3. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Left.value.text 4. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.f.Right.value.text 5. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Left.value.text 6. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.i.Right.value.text 7. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Left.value.text 8. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.l.Right.value.text 9. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Left.value.text 10. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.n.Right.value.text 11. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Left.value.text 12. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.p.Right.value.text 13. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Left.value.text 14. File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:PresenterScreen.xcu#..PresenterScreen.PresenterScreenSettings.HelpView.HelpStrings.t.Right.value.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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janI wrote: On 21 August 2013 19:52, Mr. Phan Anh wrote: Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.postalcode.Name.value.text Content of Entry: PostalCode 2.File:officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.po Locations:TableWizard.xcu#..TableWizard.TableWizard.business.Tables.contacts.Fields.stateorprovince.ShortName.value.text Content Entry: StateProvi ... 1. XY = ZT (without space between Z and T) 2. XY = Z T (with space between Z and T) When I look at the examples you provide XY, I would go for 2), but let me give you another example just to be sure: PostalCode would translate to post nummer in danish if used in a sentence, but if used as a indicated name it would be postnummer. Yes, in these two cases they are machine names that are supposed to be without spaces since they seem to be field names (but I didn't look deep init) and in those it's better, for compatibility, to avoid spaces. Anyway, this is a particular case. Commenting on the other remarks about Vietnamese: if you manage to get a 4.0.1 out with the same quality as what already exists, it is very likely that you can use it to gather some more people to review the translation. So I would recommend to target 4.0.1 too for the initial translation and focus on the review for 4.1. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: All about Vietnamese Translation for Apache OpenOffice
On 20 August 2013 18:13, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: I knew about that, some entries also include the name of Oracle and Sun, and if there were those string, I kept that. But, most of them are wrong, that is the reason why I want to discuss about the change for our system. Its hard to discuss when you dont provide examples. I just had a look at the english strings. In UI english template files, there are no strings with sun microsystem strings, and 18 strings with oracle. In the vi PO files there 18 strings with oracle, and 3 with sun microsystem (these or only in the vi. To me it seems correct. We do not change english strings for the 4.01 release. 4.0.1 is a micro release, and changing an english string, would require all languages to be translated again. I propose you make a bugzilla issue (our incident system), https://issues.apache.org attach the strings (filename + english text), then I or some other developer will look at if for the 4.1 release. rgds jan I. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 20 August 2013 17:32, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: By starting the translation, I realized that we have an issue in here. That 's the name of our project. Through out the missing translation entries and current ones, the name of Sun Microsystem or Oracle usually appear in the Pootle. I think we should replace all the phrases and the strings that contain Sun Microsystem or Oracle to become Apache OpenOffice Project to avoid unnecessary retranslation. Sun Microsystem and Oracle have been changed in the orignal english text, unless a few places where its still correct. Those places must be maintained, so you cannot search/replace automatically. However since your PO files was inherited from version 3.4.1, the NL part will not have changed. Please look at the english text and translate accordingly. You will find that the english text uses: a) Apache OpenOffice b) OpenOffice c) AOO Apache OpenOffice project should not be in use.
