[lace] laces used by judges
Hello all, Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on attorneys or judges dress. Sure I did not express myself appropriate and my question did not make sense for you, so I had no reply. My nears say that I am obstinate, so I am here again asking you: Does it exists the tradition to sew a lace application on the border of sleeves of judges dress? Here in Spain has remained the tradition and I have upload a picture on the page: http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/punetas.html I would like to hear from you, as I am curious if this tradition only survive in Spain or in other parts of the world too. Kind regards. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain -- Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/ Private apartments for rent in Spanish Coast http://www.winterinspain.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Laces used by judges
Hello Carolina, At 11:54 AM 12-07-04 +0200, you wrote: Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on attorneys or judges dress. snip Here in Australia it is customary for the Lord Mayor of a city to wear a cravat, many of which are hand made and some made of lace. Here in South Australia the Lord Mayor of Adelaide has handmade lace on his costume and also the Lord Mayor of Murray Bridge, which is a city about one and half hours drive to the East. Also the Lord Mayor of Strathalbyn I think as well. Thank you for sending the web page address where we could see the lace. Regards, Shirley T. - Adelaide, South Australia where we are enjoying lots of rain (which we need) but its not yet frosty at night. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] laces used by judges
I don't think Judges here in England have lace on their robes, but may be wrong on this. Not quite the same thing but the Speaker of the House of Commons has a Honiton jabot and cuffs, made by Pat Perryman. And several mayors (I wonder if there is a list of them anywhere) have jabots or whatever to wear with their most formal regalia, usually made by the local lace groups. There have been articles about some of these in Lace over the years. I wonder how they are surviving now; it must be worrying making a handmade, high maintenance accessory unless you are fairly confident the care will be available to look after it, through frequent changes in custodianship. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] laces used by judges
Hello, I've never seen or heard of it in the US, and not for cravats for political office holders, either. A very nice tradition, I loved the lace on the Spanish judge's sleeves. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carolina G. Gallego Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:54 AM To: arachne Subject: [lace] laces used by judges Hello all, Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on attorneys or judges dress. Sure I did not express myself appropriate and my question did not make sense for you, so I had no reply. My nears say that I am obstinate, so I am here again asking you: Does it exists the tradition to sew a lace application on the border of sleeves of judges dress? Here in Spain has remained the tradition and I have upload a picture on the page: http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/punetas.html I would like to hear from you, as I am curious if this tradition only survive in Spain or in other parts of the world too. Kind regards. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain -- Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/ Private apartments for rent in Spanish Coast http://www.winterinspain.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace framing/conservation question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] They said that the lace needs to be exposed to air to keep it from drying out. What do you recommend? Our weather conditions are so different from Northern Europe, and the piece will be in my non air conditioned home, that I wonder if this recommendation is appropriate for the US. I imagine Jeri will speak to this at some point. I just wanted to say that many of our amateur conservation ideas tend to be very old and some may have outlasted the environmental conditions they addressed. On the one hand, we look at what was done to 300-year-old pieces that are in good condition, so that must be a good way to treat such material. We can rely on past experience. However, the conditions that applied during it's 300-year history are not necessarily the same as those in our modern homes. For example, getting air to circulate around the lace may have been a good idea before the industrial revolution when humidity just meant water in the air, but that doesn't mean it's as good an idea today, with acid rain and other pollutants in the big-city air. Also, some of what we learn that way is more folklore than fact. The traditional treatment is based on observation, but the explanation for *why* it worked was speculation. Leaving a lace picture unsealed may have been good, but not necessarily to promote humidity getting in there and preventing drying out. I had been told to leave it unsealed to prevent *condensation* from *too much* moisture! Same treatment, opposite explanations. I'm not saying I know that sealing was good and I'm not saying sealing is bad now. I'm just pointing out that conditions change and we need to look to modern conservators who have knowledge of the latest experiments, not rely on tradition unless there is no modern knowledge. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] laces used by judges
Judicial attire in the US is very boring possibly reflecting our anti-aristocratical dogma and a perception that lace is soft and pretty and weak and that it ill-suits people who have the power and authority to sentence others to death or a life-time in jail. However, I have noted that Judge Judy, supposedly a real life judge, who presides over a television court room where people submit their disputes for reasons that elude me, seems to wear a diminutive lace collar over her robe. I don't know whether this is to distinguish TV judging from other judging or whether this is an affectation that some women judges adopt. The lace collar in question is very mundane, even severe, as is Judge Judy, and does little to advance the appreciation of lace. Devon cursed by living in a country with no good pageantry PS I attended the Burr-Hamilton duel re-enactment in Weehawken over the weekend. It was hard to see, but both duelers seemed to be sporting frilly neckwear. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemakers' pets
This story is widely repeated by lovers of French bulldogs (of whom I am one), though the image which it conjures up of our cute flat-faced dogs acting as foot-warmers for poor but loving bobbin lacemakers is probably entirely misleading. The Nottingham lacemakers who went to France (possibly accompanied by their family pets) were *machine* lace manufacturers setting up the commercial establishments still making lace today; they were upper-middle-class and quite prosperous. (I had a discussion on this very subject with Sheila Mason when she visited New York last year). What is definite is that the French preferred the smaller, upright-eared sort of bulldog to the larger, folded-eared kind preferred by English breeders (bull-baiting was outlawed in England in the early 1800's and people who loved the dogs were busy re-inventing them as pets and guard dogs). As a result, all the runty culls from English litters were promptly exported to France. A generation later, the little bulldogs were discovered by American ladies of fashion visiting Europe with their millionaire husbands or fathers, and many of them were imported to the U.S., where the standard for the breed as we know it was set (whatever the French may say). The 1897 French Bulldog show which established the requirement for an upright ear was held in the ballroom of the Waldorf-Astoria and has been called the most glamorous dog show ever held! Devon would recognize the names of the most important breeders and exhibitors there that day as the same people whose lace collections now form the foundation of so many great museum holdings So there is a long-standing connection between French Bulldogs and lace, though probably more by coincidence than deliberate association! Sue. Noelene wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:53:06 +1000 From: W N Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Lacemakers' pets I've just sold a book over Ebay, and was told by the buyer that she has French Bulldogs, a favourite pet of lacemakers in France. Has anyone every heard this before? Noelene in Cooma Susan Lambiris Raleigh, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemakers' pets/Ratti Lace Fund
I am proud of any contribution that I have made in clarifying the role of the French Bull Dog in the history of lace. Priceless moments such as the bringing together of Sheila and John Mason, 7th generation machine lace manufacturers from Nottingham, and Susan Lambiris, of Raleigh to discuss French Bull Dogs and view the Battle of Britain lace occur with regularity at the Ratti Textile Center. Arachne readers will be happy to know that it is now possible to support these moments, and the completion of the lace data base, with contributions to the Ratti Lace Fund knowing that no contributions will be diverted from lace purposes. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] framing question
Hi Devon and everyone Regarding framing the lace - I'd say yes to covering the back and yes to leaving a gap between fabric and glass. I have had some pieces in a frame for years (granted, in the damp west coast climate) and they seem fine. If the back is covered with conservation quality paper, it would 'breathe' but still serve its purpose, yes? my two bits' worth Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] laces used by judges
Here is a picture of Lord Denning, (from a book cover, I think), showing him in his robes as a Law Lord. http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0406176086.02.LZZZ.jpg He became Master of the Rolls, the most senior judge in England, but I think his outfit is typical of a High court Judge. Linda Walton, (High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where I think our Mayor has a jabot of locally-made Bucks point lace). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Iron on patterns
I was shopping in San Antonio, TX at a small store called the Yarn Barn and found some magazines with Cantu lace in them. What intrigued me was that the patterns were to be ironed on the pricking card like you would iron on an embroidery pattern to a piece of cloth. Has anyone tried this and how does it work out and do the markings come off the pricking onto your lace? Oh, lots of questions. The name of the magazine is Pizzo di Cantu Do you need to cover the pricking with something after you iron it on? Just wondering who has had experience with these and what it was? Karisse A. Moore Killeen, Texas - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Iron on patterns
From: Karisse Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What intrigued me was that the patterns were to be ironed on the pricking card like you would iron on an embroidery pattern to a piece of cloth. Has anyone tried this and how does it work out and do the markings come off the pricking onto your lace?The name of the magazine is Pizzo di Cantu Do you need to cover the pricking with something after you iron it on? I got the magazines (there have been two that I know of so far) at The Lacemaker (Ohio) but haven't used any of the patterns yet. I plan on photocopying them like any book pattern. Of course, that would come out mirror image to ironing them onto card, but that shouldn't matter with Cantu. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] framing question
I have a lovely piece of Brugge's lace, brought back by my stepmother from Brugge(A place called Lace Symphony-Wollestraat). It was already framed, and very well at that. The backing is a very solid piece of wood, and is very tightly on there, with a glass frame. I do believe it was framed to last. It's hung on my hallway for 3 or 4 years now, and there is no discolouration at all, even in our northern climate. BTW, it's a beautiful picture of a horse and carriage, with flowers surrounding it, and a rolled banner underneath with Brugge written on it. It's very inspirational, though I doubt I could ever do anything close to it! Hope this helps. Karen Ontario, Canada Hi Devon and everyone Regarding framing the lace - I'd say yes to covering the back and yes to leaving a gap between fabric and glass. I have had some pieces in a frame for years (granted, in the damp west coast climate) and they seem fine. If the back is covered with conservation quality paper, it would 'breathe' but still serve its purpose, yes? my two bits' worth Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re:[lace] laces used by judges
Hello everyone and in answer to Carolina's question In Canada the highest justices wear black silk robes and a white silk scarf thing, like a jabot but plain, around the neck (I think they have the white jabot, but maybe not - haven't seen one lately - I know they don't wear wigs). For special occasions they have red robes with white Cdn. mink fur trim at the neck and shoulders - no lace. Thank you for sharing the photo of the Spanish attorney and the most distinguished-looking use of Torchon that I've seen yet. bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] laces used by judges
Lovely. In my opinion, the Brits have always dressed up their officials nicely. No one that I've ever seen has come close to my favourite, Queen Elizabeth I. Imagine being charged with making lace for her, and caring for it! That would have been hard, and most likely by candlelight too, and paid a pittance! But boy, it was lovely. Karen Ontario, Canada Here is a picture of Lord Denning, (from a book cover, I think), showing him in his robes as a Law Lord. http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0406176086.02.LZZZ.jpg He became Master of the Rolls, the most senior judge in England, but I think his outfit is typical of a High court Judge. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Iron on patterns
Don't forget you can always set the copier to reverse them so they don't come out mirror image. Most copiers have that option. Karen I got the magazines (there have been two that I know of so far) at The Lacemaker (Ohio) but haven't used any of the patterns yet. I plan on photocopying them like any book pattern. Of course, that would come out mirror image to ironing them onto card, but that shouldn't matter with Cantu. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Snood pattern hunt
I have a friend who, after a nasty bout with cancer, has decided that life is too short and is finally marrying her long-time partner (fourteen years!). Her hair is growing back, but is still pretty short. She wants a snood to cover the back of her head and dress it up a bit for the wedding. I was sure I had a tatting pattern in my stash but alas, no luck. I've googled the web with not much results. I came up with one book - Tatted Accents Accessories - that has a pattern, but I'd like to see what the pattern looks like before I order a whole book. If you have it, could you just describe it for me? At this point I'm even willing to crochet one, if I have to. I know they're pretty simple; I just need an idea of what shape to make and how big. I'm not asking anyone to break copyright laws, but if anyone has a snood pattern, could you email me and tell me what book it's in or where I could order it? Even better, if you have a legitimate free pattern that you're willing to share, we'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance, LeAnn in Oregon - gearing up for county fair season! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] laces used by judges
I am sure you will get several replies from the U.S. There is a court tv program over here for small claims and Judge Judy wears lace collars on her black gowns. I don't think there is any tradition with this, maybe her attempt at staying feminine. BTW, she stands no messing in her court and tells the plaintives and defendants to behave correctly. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] snood pattern hunt
http://www.knitting-crochet.com/crochet/snood.html http://crochet.about.com/od/snoods/ http://www.crochetpartners.org/Patterns/CPpat145.html http://www.crochetpatterncentral.com/directory/hair_accessories.php Here are a few links that I found for crochet patterns for snoods. I tried looking for tatting patterns without any success. Hope this helps :) Mikki Fairbanks Alaska Where it is actually HOT outside *VBG* LeAnn in Oregon wrote: I'm not asking anyone to break copyright laws, but if anyone has a snood pattern, could you email me and tell me what book it's in or where I could order it? Even better, if you have a legitimate free pattern that you're willing to share, we'd be very grateful. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Summer IOLI Bulletin
Hi All, I'm also enjoying my IOLI Bulletin. I'm looking forward to reading the three long articles including one by Devon!! Sherry (Celticdreamweaver) has a beautiful tatted seahorse on the front cover. Lovely! And Tamara's Windrose bouquet is in color on the back cover. This is her first article as BL Editor for the IOLI and it's a good one G. A nice dose of Ms T's writing which I've been missing on arachne. And I do love reading about designing. I find it fascinating to read how others do it and I like reading about the moments when things start to come together. If I read it right she's going to be using the same pattern (shape) in a number of different BL techniques in the next few Bulletins. Sounds interesting! Jane in Vermont, USA where we had another beautiful summer day! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] NL pillow
Hi All, I'm still working on the gold metallic North Wind in Battenberg lace. Some of the filling stitches are metallic and some long thin sections get Russian Stitch in metallic thread and then it's knotted with cotton thread. Needless to say I'm having a little trouble finding the Russian Stitches and I need two hands for the knotting - they have to be very close together. I've been pondering making an NL pillow. DH is a plumber, among other things, so we have lots of that black plastic pipe around in different diameters. I have an old wool blanket to wash in hot water and shrink but I have to find it first. But the other day I saw Pool Noodles at the hardware store so today I bought one! I cut off a section and have been using it this evening and it's working great! The piece I'm making is not too big so the size is fine. I will make a real NL pillow after the IOLI Convention but the noodle is making my lace making life much easier at the moment! Jane in Vermont, USA wishing I could get a break from hot flashes in the summertime G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Eeek! IOLI Bulletin
Hi All, As I was sending the last message I realized I had written it wrong. Sherry's beautiful tatted *Dragon* is on the cover of the Summer Bulletin. Sorry Sherry! I know it's a dragon but my brain kept saying seahorse. A mental-pause G. Jane in Vermont, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mayor Lace
I have just remembered that the Sergeant at Arms, and Black Rod , in Canberra, Oz, both have hand made lace - made by the Canberra lacemakers when the new Parliament House opened. Helen and I managed to see the Sergeant at Arms' cravat cuffs - -We asked to see it, spun a tale about how we had come all the way from Melbourne to see it, and that I had helped make the Lord Mayor of Melbourne's lace, etc, etc.!! Eventually they got a security guy to take us to the Inner Sanctum where it was kept - through miles of corridors, like a rabbit warren!! They were displayed in a glass topped box coffee table in an office. A nice man came and told us all about the Sergeant's job, etc, and we had an interesting 20 minutes there, before another security guy was summond to return us to the Public part of the building! Helen was allowed to take a couple of photos, too! Perhaps some of the Canberra lurkers can tell us more about the lace. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mayoral Lace
Here in Melbourne the Lord Mayor has hand-made lace - the Lace Guild (Victorian Branch) mad the cravat and double layered cuffs for the Stste's 150th birthday. I workded on one layer of a cuff! It was a fairly simple torchon design, and 5 pillows circulated throughout the State so any and every lacemaker could work on it if they wished. A woodworking husband mad a beaut wooden presentation box, and we had a nice do at the Town Hall to present it to the Mayor, who was very interested in it, and knew all the history of the Mayoral robes, etc. His 'dresser' immediately drtessed him in the lace, and robes so we could see the finished effect. We were shown some of the former (Machine made) lace cravats. The Dresser was very interested in the lace too. This was in 1985 or 6. Un fortunately, nowadays, many Mayors don't wear the lace - or the robes - they are considered outdated in a modern society! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Magazine
I received my IOLI Bulletin magazine yesterday, so I had some nice bedtime reading last night! I love the Windrose designs on the back cover. I hate doing sewings, but these are so pretty, I might have a go at them. Many thanks for another pretty pattern, Tamara. - And I am hopeless at drawing, too from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Off to OIDFA
I am unsubsribing until end of August. Am off to OIDFA and then will travel around Europe and England. Hope to see some of you in Prague. Valda [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Snood pattern hunt
LeAnn, I don't have a snood pattern but I am a regular snood wearer (as a married Jewish orthodox woman, I cover my hair at all times outside the house). Almost anything that is comfortable around the rim of the head will be fine, as long as it is sufficiently long. Most important thing to remember is not to make the elastic too tight or it will give your friend a blinding headache! A diameter (measured around, not across) of about 22 inches will fit most women. The elastic at the top should be thin (1/4 at the absolute maximum; I think I would use a doubled strand of elastic thread), which means that the finished snood should be fairly light. Length of the snood is variable, but 6-9 seems to be a good length--long enough to cover the back of the head, short enough not to be too hot on the back of the neck. If you were to tat one and can't find a real snood pattern, I'd suggest choosing a simple doily pattern and working it until it's about 9 in diameter (measure around from time to time to make sure that you have the right circumference). Then add rows of an insertion pattern until it's long enough (there are lots of patterns for bridal bags and they have the same construction). Because tatting produces a fairly stiff fabric, check that it's soft enough for the snood to drape nicely. You want something that hangs in folds and doesn't stick out like a wind-sock. To actually cover the hair, you'll probably want to sew a lining and run an elastic through a casing at the edge. If you use a slippery lining fabric like satin, it will slide around unless lined at the edge with grosgrain ribbon or fastened with a couple hair clips. Ask me how I know--at my own wedding I underestimated the weight of my own hair (my hair was waist-length and covered immediately after the ceremony, for the dancing) and my non-existent skill with putting my hair up. I had a terrible time keeping my satin snood on, until a guest took pity on me and gave me a couple of her son's clips! g If you use satin, cotton would work well, as long as it is soft enough to drape attracively. Avital - Original Message - From: LeAnn Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a friend who, after a nasty bout with cancer, has decided that life is too short and is finally marrying her long-time partner (fourteen years!). Her hair is growing back, but is still pretty short. She wants a snood to cover the back of her head and dress it up a bit for the wedding. I was sure I had a tatting pattern in my stash but alas, no luck. I've googled the web with not much results. I came up with one book - Tatted Accents Accessories - that has a pattern, but I'd like to see what the pattern looks like before I order a whole book. If you have it, could you just describe it for me? At this point I'm even willing to crochet one, if I have to. I know they're pretty simple; I just need an idea of what shape to make and how big. I'm not asking anyone to break copyright laws, but if anyone has a snood pattern, could you email me and tell me what book it's in or where I could order it? Even better, if you have a legitimate free pattern that you're willing to share, we'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance, LeAnn in Oregon - gearing up for county fair season! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] relations and their decisions
Sorry, I forget the most important thing. When I designed my first pattern, a Torchon-lace, I named it after her Hertha. To say her thank you for this wonderful craft she gave me. What a shame you couldn't rescue any of her lace stuff, Ilske. Aren't relations really annoying sometimes!! Like my father who suddenly decided to give a cousin my absolute favourite and cherished series of children's books, tossing out the first 3 volumes as being too tatty to give away, just one month before I was due to come to France, without telling me what he was doing first, and after having had those books on the shelves for 30 years without saying anything!!! I always meant to take them with me to Australia, but always had something better to put in my suitcases before. If I'd known, I would have rescued them before he threw them out! I got back the ones he gave to my cousin, fortunately (I saw her reading one and mentioned that I had them too...and she told me Dad had given them to her!)but I can't replace the first 3. ...And I don't think that my father has ever understood why I was so upset!! On the other hand, when my parents packed up my stuff and sent them to me in a container, around 1980, they didn't pack those books up,or any of my French books, but they packed my series of Forsyte Saga and Georgette Heyer's paperbacks, which I can pick up here in any small bookshop anywhere!!Wouldn't you think they would have asked me what I wanted? Even though they sent the container as a surprise. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] True or false
Ruth wrote: I've just heard on our radio station here in Australia that both the Daily Telegraph and the BBC are reporting that Britain is about to get a law forbidding cruelty to worms, slugs and snails! A fine of 25,000 pounds, and up to 12 months gaol is promised for those caught causing cruelty to these sorts of garden pests!!! It's true - sort of. A new animal cruelty law has been drafted, and as it stands we could be prosecuted for cruelty to worms, slugs and snails because they haven't been excluded. But the bill is in it's draft stage, and the final one will be more detailed so that nonsense can be weeded out. It's a complicated issue because, for instance, we can at the moment be prosecuted for cruelty to hedgehogs - is a person guilty of cruelty to a hedgehog if he puts down pellets to kill slugs and a poisoned slug is eaten by the hedgehog which then also dies from poisoning? We are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers, but when you hear that over the weekend the body of a pet cat was found (and I do mean the body) which had been killed by someone chopping off its head and tail, then we need animal cruelty laws. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/11/nslug11.xml; sSheet=/portal/2004/07/11/ixportal.html Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] True or false
Jean in Poole wrote:- . . . we need animal cruelty laws (for reasons given). We also need them because it is a way to catch career criminals early. It is becoming widely recognised that animal cruelty is frequently the first step on the way to far worse crimes against children and adults. So please, always report such things: don't just walk away in exasperation because it's only an animal. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., who is leaving on Thursday to visit her sister, a retired forensic scientist). To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] makers of lace
Bev Walker wrote: Without editors, writers are nothing but makers of lace Having got over my surprise, I pondered on it for a while then decided that maybe to a non-lacemaker this remark couly insulting to lacemakers. Insulting as we think of it but perhaps not so in the class sense - makers of lace not begin particularly highly paid, nor particularly in charge of their craft (that is to say someone else did the designing, and it would seem the collecting and paying) - supposing the author was considering 'makers of lace' as 'writers' - gainfully occupied I thought she meant that writers are nothing but makers of fluff, or froth, in the sense that lace is full of air and not useful, so a writer without an editor would only be writing a lot of nonsense. Anyone else thought the same? Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, very relieved to find a lace and lace-chat digests in her mailbox after the shock of going back to work on monday and finding...none!! I thought our security system had thrown them out as spam...Aaargh!! Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] secret pal thanks
dear Secret Pal from Italy, I started work at 12.30 noon today, so was stuill at home when the postman brought your parcel. What luck!! I was able to open it immediately and have one of thopse delicious almond biscuit for lunch. Thank you! I love the box and its green tartan, quite an unusual colour. I don't think the green thread you sent would go with that, but I love that bright green and will certainly use it to make some lace. I've already made several green pieces of lace, including my Lacemakers Census bit, which is green and gold according to the official colours of Australia. I've got to make several bookmarks or little doylies for Christmas, so it will be just the right colour. I also like the pair of bobbins, thank you, I don't have any of those Spanish bobbins. But Spanish bobbins???You seem to be very cosmopolitan!! Idrija lace patterns, Spanish bobbins, English threadI wonder who you are! I was intrigued to hear about your plans to come to Australia. Are you emigrating, or just coming for a holiday? Where do you think you will settle? You will let me know of course if you come to Melbourne!! or even somewhere else, we have lacemakers in every State who will be happy to welcome you. Looking forward to your next parcel and news, Your delighted secret pal (the not secret part :-)) Helene, the froggy from Melbourne Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
