[lace] Fans

2010-09-23 Thread Jean Nathan
Having done my best to describe a brise fan (a bit like slices of a cake), 
another idea would be to put odd bits of lace (matching or using different 
samples) separately on the top part of a fan skeleton with thin plain 
sticks, and then running an invisible thread through the tops to secure them 
so they only opening a set amount rather than being able to flop about 
without control. Feather fans and those made from cut and painted crepe 
paper shapes are made that way.


We lacemakers always seem to think of a lace fan as having to be a 
semi-circle of lace mounted on a skeleton.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Vintage lace shopping

2010-09-23 Thread lbuyred
I would like to put in a good word for lace samples.  While I have always 
admired old lace, I never could afford anything that I saw.  Then I discovered 
a lace dealer at the convention that had small samples that were well within my 
price range.  Now I have a small collection of a number of different types of 
lace.  I have placed them in acid free page protectors (the kind used for 
trading cards) with an index card of information in the adjoining pocket.  I 
have had hours of entertainment examining them under a magnifyling glass and 
comparing them to my books.

My next goal (after having read Pat Earnshaw's books on machine lace) is to 
find some samples of those.  This have given me an affordable way to be able to 
collect.
Liz
Raleigh, NC, USA

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[lace] fans

2010-09-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Thanks for telling us about brise fans.  I went and googled it.  Amazing.  the
pierced work in ivory and horn were amazing.
Lorelei

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[lace] Spangle sizes was:Spangling wire

2010-09-23 Thread Claire Allen
I like my spangles small and neat, just big enough to stop the bobbins rolling 
and give a little tension on the thread but small enough to not make sewings in 
my Milanese lace harder. I struggle with continental bobbins and don't enjoy my 
lace as much when I use them. I like my bobbins smooth and slender too. 

Claire
Kent, UK

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Crafty stuff I want to show off




> Alex said
>> Dear Arachnids
>> 
>> I am surprised at the comments about preferring stiff wire so that the
>> spangles do not distort.  I much prefer wire that allows me to squeeze the
>> spangle across its width so that the beads meet, making the spangle long and
>> narrow. 

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Re: [lace] using lace vs preserving it

2010-09-23 Thread Susan Reishus
"(Honiton motifs on wedding) veil (cut out and applied to velvet pillows).
This way each (great grand-daughter) could have a piece of the original lace,
and the grand-daughter had the pleasure of repurposing it." Bev

What needlework/needle lace I have made and given to family members, they
chose to frame.  At first I balked, but it seems like a good solution overall
(if done properly), as even if they tire of it, it stays clean and dust proof
even if not on display, and can be passed down that way to later generations
that may not know how to care for it. 

My mother was going to have a large piece mounted between glass panes as she
marveled that the back looked as good as the front.  Sharing that mostly as an
idea that may not have come to mind for some, as it could be used even as a
type of partition/divider.

Fortunately, my favorite piece was returned to me, so I am happy.  I didn't
want to get into a tussle with my sisters wanting it at some point.  I now
have evidence of my work, as everything I have ever made (until very
recently), has been gifted.

Best,
Susan Reishus

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[lace] Re:Spangling wire

2010-09-23 Thread Tatman
I am finding this to be true as well, Alex, as I am now working on my first
Bucks Point.  I have a lot of spangled bobbins and the spangles do tend to
be too wide and crowd the area.  Most of my spangle wire is fairly flexible
and I have squeezed a few to tame them.

-- 
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On 9/23/10 7:49 AM, "Alex Stillwell"  wrote:

> Dear Arachnids
> 
> I am surprised at the comments about preferring stiff wire so that the
> spangles do not distort.  I much prefer wire that allows me to squeeze the
> spangle across its width so that the beads meet, making the spangle long and
> narrow. This allows the bobbins to lie closer together a necessity when making
> Bucks Point which can result in lot of bobbins; I also prefer the way they
> handle. However, we must feel comfortable using our bobbins and we are all
> different.
> 
> Keep lacemaking
> 
> Alex

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Re: [lace] Fan sticks

2010-09-23 Thread Nancy Neff
No, Jean! You were not alone--your posts (this and the later one in response
to 
Jacquie's question) have been very enlightening for me.  Thank you!
Nancy, in Connecticut USA

 


From: Jean
Nathan 
To: Lace 
Sent: Thu,
September 23, 2010 3:22:54 AM
Subject: [lace] Fan sticks

 - a brise fan
doesn't have a leaf. The perspex is merely a support for each 
piece of lace
to make the sticks more rigid, not a skeleton for the whole fan.

I've been
puzzling over this since it was originally mentioned, wondering how 
you could
use something that flimsy for a fan skeleton.

Hope I wasn't the only thick
one, who misunderstood.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Spangling wire

2010-09-23 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

I am surprised at the comments about preferring stiff wire so that the
spangles do not distort.  I much prefer wire that allows me to squeeze the
spangle across its width so that the beads meet, making the spangle long and
narrow. This allows the bobbins to lie closer together a necessity when making
Bucks Point which can result in lot of bobbins; I also prefer the way they
handle. However, we must feel comfortable using our bobbins and we are all
different.

Keep lacemaking

Alex

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[lace] Tatting in fiction

2010-09-23 Thread Su Carter

Oh my, this is a classic:


"And I will go and see about dinner, Reginald," remarks
Mrs. Owenson, settling her cap with a pleased simper at herself
in the glass, "if you can spare me."

"Spare you! What the devil good are you to any one
I should like to know! sitting there with your eternal knitting"

"Not knitting, Reginald, love," remonstrates Mrs. Owenson,
"knitting's old-fashioned. Tatting."


It's from "One Night's Mystery" by May Agnes Fleming, a 19c Canadian  
author.



See you,
Su
Williamsburg, VA

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[lace] Fan sticks

2010-09-23 Thread Jean Nathan

Jacquie wrote:

material as well to widen the normally narrow bit that the fan is attached 
to?>


No, you don't see fan sticks at all. A brise fan doesn't have sticks in the 
sense that we usually use. Imagine piling several bookmarks that you've made 
on top of each other and then putting a pin down through near the lower tip. 
You can then fan out the bookmarks. That's what a brise fan is like.


The problem is that we all usually make a semi-circular fan leaf, spread out 
the fan sticks and attach the leaf by some means or another to the top part 
of the splayed out sticks, leaving an uncovered part of the sticks visible 
below the leaf. A brise fan isn't like that. It's made up of separate 
"sticks", normally painted or decorated in some way over the whole length, 
pinned through near the bottom so they can be fanned out. There's usually a 
fine cord running through near the top edge to restrict the amount the 
"sticks" can splay so that the top sides remain touching each other when the 
fan is opened.


Originally I though as you did that the perspex or acetate was used as 
inconspicuous fan sticks with a semicircular leaf attached for display 
purposes.


If you google brise fan, you'll see what they are.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Fan sticks

2010-09-23 Thread Jean Nathan
I'm obviously not very bright, but, having found the review of the book 
'Blonde' in the Lace Guild magazine, I've just realised that the fan sticks 
mentioned are for a BRISE fan, a word I missed in Robin's post, which is 
made of several sections (a bit like bookmarks) placed on top of each other 
with a pivot hole through the bottom so they can be opened out. They are 
called sticks, but not in the sense we usually use the word because there's 
nothing of them showing below the leaf on the finished fan - a brise fan 
doesn't have a leaf. The perspex is merely a support for each piece of lace 
to make the sticks more rigid, not a skeleton for the whole fan.


I've been puzzling over this since it was originally mentioned, wondering 
how you could use something that flimsy for a fan skeleton.


Hope I wasn't the only thick one, who misunderstood.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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