Re: [lace] How I wash lace

2011-09-13 Thread Clive Betty Rice
 My good lacemaking friends,   As most of you know, I am roadkill on the
information superhighway, and my postings on Arachne bear this out.  When
I post to this list, I use paragraphs, spaces, and everything else to
make for comfortable reading.  However, when it comes to the List, it all
runs together.  Case in point, look below!  I belong to another list and
my postings appear in the format that I write them in.  Is there help for
me?  Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA On 09/13/11, Clive  Betty
Ricedol...@verizon.net wrote:If a piece of lace i have finished
requires washing, I put the piece of
lace in a glass jar with my washing solution and distilled water. Shake
the jar a bit. Rinse the same way, changing the distilled water several
times until it is clear as can be. I have a round glass gallon jug - the
type we had before plastic came on the scene. I take the lace out of the
water and just let it relax on a linen tea towel. It will still be very
wet as I wrap it aroung the clean jug, finger pressing it as I go. A
long length can be spiraled around the jug without ill effects. Lay the
jug on its side on the linen tea towel until the lace dries. My jug is
quite heavy so will stay where I put it. Works like a charm. I had
several bookmarks (all white) that had been in the drawer long enough to
look limp and sorry. I washed them and they all fit on the jug at the
same time. There were 6 or 8 if I recall. Happy Lacemaking, Betty Ann
in Roanoke, Virginia USA

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[lace] Willow pattern plate

2011-09-13 Thread Jenny De Angelis

Jean,

Your plate is really lovely.  The dark blue gimp really brings it to life. 
Congratulations of a beautiful piece of lace.


I remember back in the early 1980s when I was going to lace classes with 
Alex Stilwell in Essex, she made a Willow Pattern plate piece that was oval, 
is this the same pattern or another design?


Regards
Jenny DeAngelis 


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Re: [lace] to wash or not to wash?

2011-09-13 Thread suebabbs
I have put hand made bobbin lace on some dresses and blouses that go in the
washing machine, and washed them many times without any problems. All of this
lace is torchon or tape lace, made in a fairly thick cotton. Some is Filatu di
Cantu, which washes extremely well. The lace needs to be eased into shape a
bit when it is damp, but is otherwise fine. I do not machine wash Bucks or
other point laces. These are stitched / tacked on to garments, so that they
can be removed before laundering.



In all cases where I have washed garments without a problem, the lace was
cotton or silk (personally I don't much like linen). I once made a motif from
a Lace Express magazine, in synthetic threads (machine threads, may have been
Sulky, but I'm not sure now).  I stitched this to a t-shirt and put it
through the regular wash, then tried to stretch it back to shape as I would
with cotton or silk. Almost all the connections snapped!  So I will not be
working in synthetic machine threads again! The colours were perfect for what
I wanted, but the t-shirt is now a disaster!



Sue Babbs

(Still in the UK, but flying back to Chicago tomorrow)

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Re: [lace] washing lace

2011-09-13 Thread Sue
Having read the current thread about washing and pressing lace, I got 
motivated again, to repress the two hankies I recently completed.   I had 
steam pressed them after I finished sewing but photos showed up new hankies 
looking like old hankies, with creases etc.   So I just bought a new iron, 
checked it out and then wet the cotton and repressed them and they look much 
better.   It is always good to read and then re read things said on these 
subjects from time to time as it reminds folk like me.

So please dont think we have all heard them too many times before. grin.
thanks folks, they look much better.
Sue T
Dorset UK

It is not common practice to wash lace until it is necessary. If the item 
is
only a few inches across it can be placed on a sheet of polstyrene and 
pinned

to it through all the pinholes around the edge - like blocking out. (Check
that your pins are not affected by the washing agent by leaving some pins 
in

it for a few days).  Place face down into the water containing a suitable
cleaning agent and left to soak, you can even boil it if the lace is 
cotton or
linen. Polystyrene is not affected by boiling water. When clean rinse 
under a
tap or use de-ionised water. Finally prop up the polystyrene so that the 
water
drains off and allow to dry.  When the pins are removed the lace should 
look

like new.
Best wishes Alex


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[lace] blue willow misc

2011-09-13 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Congratulations to Celia--I'd love to see some WIP (work in 
progress) lace with the adopted bobbins!  Jean, nice job on the blue willow.  
Have you considered adapting this design to make a fan?  You've made some 
lovely ones already  the blue willow would make a nice addition to your 
collection.  I survived last Saturday's Tonder workshop without breaking the 
thread--my first goal.  Since I didn't have the specified threads, I 
substituted Madeira 80 Cotona then purchased some silk for a second effort.  I 
fell in love with Valdani au ver a soie over-dyed perle for the gimp.  Has 
anyone used this stuff?  It sure is dreamy to look at  I've paired it with YLI 
100.  So many threads  ideas to test drive!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA 
USA

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[lace] Support group

2011-09-13 Thread Lyn Bailey
As you all know, I am not shy, and write frequently in this forum.  My
most recent post was about the hope that authors could use modern technology
to continue to print books after the initial runs were finished, so that
valuable texts would, in essence, never be out of print.  This was prompted by
a friend’s search for out of print books she wanted/needed for a class.  She
is a Lurker on Arachne, has never posted, to my recollection, in the 3 years,
(has is been that long, or only that long, depending on viewpoint) I have been
a member.  To my great surprise and pleasure, there has been a swell of emails
trying to help her find these books, asking what they are, pointing out caches
of books not in the forefront, where they might be purchased, or borrowed.  It
just shows what we are made of.  What we are.  A group of caring friends,
ready to reach out and help or just touch someone, as needed.

It is an honor to belong to such a group.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we are now having seasonal weather.
Sunshine.  Cool mornings, warm afternoons.  Good for sitting on or under the
deck and making lace. The record flooding is over, except for the debris on
the playground in the park behind the house, which was a swift, deep river
last week.  No one has played in the playground since the flood, it’s too
dirty, and may have unsavory things lurking there.

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[lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread Catherine Barley
Dear Lacemakers

I have been discussing with Alex Stillwell the possibility of re-printing my
book Needlelace Designs  Techniques - Classic and Comtemporary as I have
received numerous emails during the last twelve months or so, asking if I can
help locating a copy. Unfortunately I can't but have bought the odd
second-hand copy when I've seen it at a reasonable price and have passed it
on.  One generous supplier at a lace day recently sold me a copy at a little
less than the original price, saying that they couldn't possibly sell me a
copy of my own book at the asking price.  I won't disclose their name, but
they know who they are!   Amazon are asking ridiculous prices!

Alex tells me that Books on Demand here in the UK only print black  white but
as my book does have some colour plates, I am wondering whether it would be
worth all the time and effort involved, as I wrote this book before the days
of Windows and digital photography?  All the information is on the old type
'floppies' and colour reproductiion is from transparancies, so one can begin
to imagine the time and effort that this would involve, and I have no wish to
go down that road if nobody wants to buy a copy because there is no colour!
The majority of the illustrations are B  W  and a few are white lace, but
with just a coloured background.  If I were able to get copies printed in B 
W  do you think  anyone be interested in purchasing a copy?

I'd really appreciate your views on the matter.

Many thanks

Catherine Barley
UK

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Re: [lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread corinne jones
Hi Cathy

I would be happy to buy a copy in black and white rather not have a copy at
all, especially as I have just taken up needlelace again after a very,very
long break.

Corinne
In Sunny Sussex

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Catherine Barley 
catherinebar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Dear Lacemakers

 I have been discussing with Alex Stillwell the possibility of re-printing
 my
 book Needlelace Designs  Techniques - Classic and Comtemporary as I have
 received numerous emails during the last twelve months or so, asking if I
 can
 help locating a copy. Unfortunately I can't but have bought the odd
 second-hand copy when I've seen it at a reasonable price and have passed it
 on.  One generous supplier at a lace day recently sold me a copy at a
 little
 less than the original price, saying that they couldn't possibly sell me a
 copy of my own book at the asking price.  I won't disclose their name, but
 they know who they are!   Amazon are asking ridiculous prices!

 Alex tells me that Books on Demand here in the UK only print black  white
 but
 as my book does have some colour plates, I am wondering whether it would be
 worth all the time and effort involved, as I wrote this book before the
 days
 of Windows and digital photography?  All the information is on the old type
 'floppies' and colour reproductiion is from transparancies, so one can
 begin
 to imagine the time and effort that this would involve, and I have no wish
 to
 go down that road if nobody wants to buy a copy because there is no colour!
 The majority of the illustrations are B  W  and a few are white lace, but
 with just a coloured background.  If I were able to get copies printed in B
 
 W  do you think  anyone be interested in purchasing a copy?

 I'd really appreciate your views on the matter.

 Many thanks

 Catherine Barley
 UK

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RE: [lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
I was one of those lucky enough to obtain a copy at a reasonable price
recently because we were using it for a section in my Diploma in Lace
Studies at the University of Malta. It is a beautiful book (I knew because I
had seen it before) and I think I would have been grateful for a copy even
in black and white. I can imagine, though, that a short wait will soon see
these books on demand being reproduced in colour too as that is the way
technology is moving along.
Karen in Malta

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Catherine Barley
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:10 PM
To: lace
Subject: [lace] books on demand

Dear Lacemakers

I have been discussing with Alex Stillwell the possibility of re-printing my
book Needlelace Designs  Techniques - Classic and Comtemporary as I have
received numerous emails during the last twelve months or so, asking if I
can
help locating a copy. Unfortunately I can't but have bought the odd
second-hand copy when I've seen it at a reasonable price and have passed it
on.  One generous supplier at a lace day recently sold me a copy at a little
less than the original price, saying that they couldn't possibly sell me a
copy of my own book at the asking price.  I won't disclose their name, but
they know who they are!   Amazon are asking ridiculous prices!

Alex tells me that Books on Demand here in the UK only print black  white
but
as my book does have some colour plates, I am wondering whether it would be
worth all the time and effort involved, as I wrote this book before the days
of Windows and digital photography?  All the information is on the old type
'floppies' and colour reproductiion is from transparancies, so one can begin
to imagine the time and effort that this would involve, and I have no wish
to
go down that road if nobody wants to buy a copy because there is no colour!
The majority of the illustrations are B  W  and a few are white lace, but
with just a coloured background.  If I were able to get copies printed in B

W  do you think  anyone be interested in purchasing a copy?

I'd really appreciate your views on the matter.

Many thanks

Catherine Barley
UK

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Re: [lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread bev walker
Hello Catherine and everyone

I think it would be timely to make your book available again either as
BoD or eBook, pdf. For the latter you could go with colour.
The information on the floppies should be stored to current media
storage (e.g. a memory stick) if possible. Maybe you've done that
already. There are ways to convert the transparencies to jpg now, too.

On 9/13/11, Catherine Barley catherinebar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I have been discussing with Alex Stillwell the possibility of re-printing my
 book Needlelace Designs  Techniques - Classic and Comtemporary...

 Alex tells me that Books on Demand here in the UK only print black  white
 but

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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[lace] E`book

2011-09-13 Thread Daphne Martin
Hello Catherine
 I think an e`book is a brilliant idea as you can send the book
anywhere in the world without extra cost.
There is also another good reason for having e`books, that is you don`t have
boxes of books waiting to sell.
I do have a copy of your book bought when I did the City and Guilds.

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[lace] Books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread Jean Nathan
There is one possible way round the problem of books which were produced 
before the advent of windows and digital photography, i.e. on a typewriter 
and with diagrams cut out and glued on to a page - yes we did used to have 
to that! If the publisher has released the copyright back to the author, the 
author could photocopy the book, keep those as a master copy and then 
produce more photocopies from those to comb bind and sell at a bit more than 
cost. Comb binders aren't expensive, and modern scanner/printers are 
relatively cheap.


Not practical for a lot of copies, but could work if a few were asked for. 
Not a nice hardback copy, but probably better than nothing and more tactile 
than a cold CDROM. Having said that Jane Atkinson made a CDROM copy of her 
book 'Pattern Design for Torchon Lace'.


The copyright page would need to be updated to show that it was the author 
who had legally produced the copy.


I'm sure there are other ways of getting out-of-print books available - many 
which are out of copyright are already available on various archive sites.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] books on demand black and white.

2011-09-13 Thread lynrbailey
First let me say, I know nothing about needle lace. The transition from 
old-style printing to new-style printing could get a bit confusing.  Your 
particular issue is color.  If your color is just to make the pictures of the 
work prettier, I'm sure no one would care.  If, however, your color has to do 
with the actual making of the lace, such as the color coding on lace diagrams, 
so that one color means one type of stitch, and another color means another, 
that's a different matter entirely, and would require some extra thought.  I do 
not know how books go to the printer nowadays, my last experience in a 
publishing house was in 1968, when there were galley proofs, rolls of paper.  I 
know so much has changed.  It does seem to me possible that in the digital age, 
a digital picture of a page might be all that is necessary, if color is 
required.  Insert that picture in where the page should be.  I'm sure that with 
the international ingenuity which exists today, there's gotta be a wa
 y.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where the weather is perfect. 

-Original Message-
From: Catherine Barley catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Sent: Sep 13, 2011 10:09 AM
To: lace lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] books on demand

Dear Lacemakers

I have been discussing with Alex Stillwell the possibility of re-printing my
book Needlelace Designs  Techniques - Classic and Comtemporary as I have
received numerous emails during the last twelve months or so, asking if I can
help locating a copy. Unfortunately I can't but have bought the odd
second-hand copy when I've seen it at a reasonable price and have passed it
on.  One generous supplier at a lace day recently sold me a copy at a little
less than the original price, saying that they couldn't possibly sell me a
copy of my own book at the asking price.  I won't disclose their name, but
they know who they are!   Amazon are asking ridiculous prices!

Alex tells me that Books on Demand here in the UK only print black  white but
as my book does have some colour plates, I am wondering whether it would be
worth all the time and effort involved, as I wrote this book before the days
of Windows and digital photography?  All the information is on the old type
'floppies' and colour reproductiion is from transparancies, so one can begin
to imagine the time and effort that this would involve, and I have no wish to
go down that road if nobody wants to buy a copy because there is no colour!
The majority of the illustrations are B  W  and a few are white lace, but
with just a coloured background.  If I were able to get copies printed in B 
W  do you think  anyone be interested in purchasing a copy?

I'd really appreciate your views on the matter.

Many thanks

Catherine Barley
UK

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[lace] blue willow and misc

2011-09-13 Thread Jean Nathan

Susan wrote:

Jean, nice job on the blue willow.  Have you considered adapting this 
design to make a fan?  You've made some lovely ones already  the blue 
willow would make a nice addition to your collection.


Absolutely not! I hate it with a passion. It took a very long time, Partly 
because I couldn't make lace easily for a few months so it took a very long 
time, partly because I can see every place where I could have done better 
and partly because I've decided I'm right off piece lace - continuous lace 
from now on. I've just ordered the thread for the Peacock fan by Jane Lewis, 
but will try an resize another fan to fit the threads I have so I can get 
started on something before they arrive - or maybe I'll do the 'Fire Dance' 
acrylic fairy I  bought some time ago, or ..  So much to make and 
definitely not enough years left to do it all. Sigh.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Saving info from floppy to a current form of storage is very necessary if the 
data is important, but a memory stick isn't the most reliable way - a hard 
drive or CD/DVD is better, and/or upload to a remote server somewhere.

Brenda

On 13 Sep 2011, at 17:12, bev walker wrote:

 I think it would be timely to make your book available again either as
 BoD or eBook, pdf. For the latter you could go with colour.
 The information on the floppies should be stored to current media
 storage (e.g. a memory stick) if possible. Maybe you've done that
 already.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] books on demand

2011-09-13 Thread Anna Binnie
I hope I'm not just repeating what others have said. I feel that books 
are a precious resource and need to be protected. Paper books are great 
but expensive to produce and keep in stock. Ebooks in whatever form are 
excellent as well.


May I suggest that authors keep a master print copy of their books from 
which they can photocopy extra copies as requested. The buyer should pay 
for the photocopying and binding (say spiral type) and of course mailing 
costs. Most copy places can do this with a minimum of fuss.


You should also store your original copies as electronic files such as 
pdfs and I agree with Brenda store it on a number of computers or 
servers (floppies, CD's and USB all have their problems). During the 94 
Sydney bushfires, the fire came to within a kilometer of my home and my 
Masters thesis was almost complete. I stored copies not only on my 
computer at home and the university server (which was also in the path 
of the fire) but on a server in the UK by sending am email to myself at 
that address (it pays to be a member of the IOP). And other copies sent 
as email attachments to children and friends. I think I had about 5 back 
up copies. With cloud computing making its mark soon you will be able to 
store your books on your cloud site which should be protected from 
tsunami, earthquake, flood and fires.


Anna in a sunny Sydney

On 14/09/11 8:00 AM, Brenda Paternoster wrote:

Saving info from floppy to a current form of storage is very necessary if the 
data is important, but a memory stick isn't the most reliable way - a hard 
drive or CD/DVD is better, and/or upload to a remote server somewhere.

Brenda

On 13 Sep 2011, at 17:12, bev walker wrote:


I think it would be timely to make your book available again either as
BoD or eBook, pdf. For the latter you could go with colour.
The information on the floppies should be stored to current media
storage (e.g. a memory stick) if possible. Maybe you've done that
already.


Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] books on demand/backing up files

2011-09-13 Thread bev walker
Hi everyone
I'd like to move the topic forward, to talk about backing up g

It is a good idea to have several places and means of storage for
important files (any file is important if you don't want to lose it!).
I have just increased the external drive for the weekly computer back
up to 500 GB. Shocking to me when my first memory stick held a
'massive' 1 MB.

I haven't used optical media (CD/DVD) for file back up in ages but it
is the very least one can use. USB/Flash (memory sticks) hold more, it
is faster to transfer and as a unit tidier than fussing with disks.
From time to time I check the data I still have on disks to make sure
it is still 'there' but eventually it will be moved to another
location. Uploading large files isn't practical for those on dialup
(there are still a few of us with coal-fired internet!) but I have
been able to use online storage sometimes, and it has sure come in
handy.

Lace content: With pictures on a 'stick', I can take my netbook to a
lace meeting for lace show and tell :)

The upshot is, free advice to anyone not yet in the habit of backing
up files, now would be a good time to start. Be prepared for storage
technology to change yet again - as it does.


On 9/13/11, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com wrote:
 Saving info from floppy to a current form of storage is very necessary if
 the data is important, but a memory stick isn't the most reliable way - a
 hard drive or CD/DVD is better, and/or upload to a remote server somewhere.

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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