Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[robinlace]

 David C COLLYER  wrote: 
Personally I think a 20th anniversary on the Internet deserves 
something a lot more substantial than merely a nice cover cloth.
- a beautiful bobbin by Stuart Johnson
- a panel made by all of us (perhaps in each continent)

I'm concerned about the logistics of a panel, passing from person to person 
around the world, never getting lost in the mail and never getting stuck at the 
home of someone who meant well but now just can't seem to find the time and 
eventually is too embarrassed to admit she still has it (remember the recent 
post about bookmark/ornament exchanges that ended up 1-sided?).  One way this 
might be avoided is if we settle on a size and everyone can make squares (or 
rectangles, hexagons or whatever shape is decided) and one person or close-knit 
group is in charge of receiving all the pieces and attaching them like quilt 
blocks.  The final size and shape is determined by how many blocks they 
receive, and there's no worry about how much of the panel each person does (did 
we run out of volunteers before the panel was complete, or did we run out of 
panel space to work on when there are still people wanting to participate?).

Just a suggestion--

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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Re: [lace] Replying to messages.

[Bev Walker]

Hello Liz and everyone

Liz, whatever you are doing, I am receiving - I am one of the 'all'  :p

It will probably be ok to send to panix except the message won't become
archived, from what I understand.

For what it's worth to mention, I get the reflected (not digest) list. I
have clicked 'reply-all' - to you, Liz, and to lace(at)arachne(dot)com
so that you see the answer 'now' and you'll see it again next time the
lace-digest rolls around (22 kb worth of text IIRC - seems 'small' in
today's internet measures?!)
 
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

> Now you have me wondering if I am replying correctly!
>
> I get the Lace Digest and Lace Chat Digest  and just click on Reply. I
> change the address from the panix one to Arachne.com
>
>
> Should I be clicking on Reply All instead?
>
> Regards from Liz in chilly Melbourne, Oz.
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-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Salt Lace City convention.

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Irene, I will be there at the IOLI convention, so I hope I get to meet you.

When can we expect to hear what class we managed to get in to, and other
information?  I am really looking forward to it, and meeting up with old
friends and making new ones.  I am hoping to meet some Needlelace Talk
friends, and some Arachne friends, too, as well as some of my guild members
- I am still a member of the Rocky Mt,. Lace Guild.  It will be great to
meet up with Internet friends. Lists like this are so important, -
especially to those who can't get out to many lace related events.

As to Noelene's poems - they are fantastic, and I think we all enjoy them.
The booklet that Jeri referred to is a priceless gift to us all.  A big
thank you to Noelene for sharing them.  They are so clever...!

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Replying to messages.

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Now you have me wondering if I am replying correctly!

I get the Lace Digest and Lace Chat Digest  and just click on Reply. I
change the address from the panix one to Arachne.com


Should I be clicking on Reply All instead?

Regards from Liz in chilly Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] More bobbins

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

"..who said the she didn't "need" more bobbins..."

Shirley T should know, by now,  the difference between Need and Want!!  I am
still trying to teach my DH the difference. He refuses to learn - for some
strange reason!!!  - especially when there are lace suppliers
anywhere around!!!  :)

They are 2 different words with 2 different meanings, Shirley! :)

Probably Shirley has pillows filled with the beautiful Aluminium bobbins her
DH makes!

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
lizl...@bigpond.com

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[lace] Posting.

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Well said Jane.  Though I wish some of the lurkers would add their bits to
the conversation occasionally.  I am sure they have a lot to offer, and
would enjoy the list even more, perhaps, if they join in.

Ilske your English is excellent, so never let that stop you posting.  I hope
you soon get over your bad cold, and feel better, 

And the best added "extra"  of Arachne - whether you chat or lurk, - is
actually meeting someone "for real" at a Lace convention, or workshop
somewhere!!  
Ready made friends when you are in a strange place is a bonus!!

I really enjoy my Arachne digests, and look out for them when my emails
download!! I feel I have wonderful friends everywhere.
 
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, - where we are having lovely cool weather
for a couple of days - at last!!

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[lace] Horseshoe cover cloths

[Witchy Woman]

Catching up on the Arachne archive and came upon your mention of a horseshoe
shaped cover cloth.  I'm intrigued.

What exactly does it look like?

Peg
in
Fairview Park OH, and despairing of Spring ever getting here.

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re: [lace] lurkers and posting

[Witchy Woman]

I haven't been able to post for a while, but I read the mail archive every day 
before work starts, and at lunch time.  It's bookmarked on both my home and 
work 
computers.  


I'm set up to get the digest, but since I don't have access to home e-mail at 
work, it's always great to be able to read the archive and know what I would 
like to respond to when I get home.

Thanks to this list I made a wonderful new friend, Lyn, a few years ago when I 
posted I was going to Ithaca.  Our annual camp-out for Lace Days has become 
something I have come to look forward to every year.

I've learned so much from the information posted on the list.  It's an 
invaluable resource!

Thank you to all of you!  Even though I don't post much lately, you're 
always a part of my day...and a part the I look forward to.

Peg
in Fairview Park OH where it's snowing...again.  SIGH

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[lace] custom fabric/cover cloths

[Dmt11home]

Thank you, Sharon, for pointing the way to Spoonflower  fabrics. This is 
going to change my life. 
While the potential for fabrics from your favorite photos is  dizzying, the 
custom fabrics that others have designed are incredible. I  particularly 
like the search for the keyword "squid", although I think the  members of this 
list might like to search the tag "spider". The design "Spider  Damask" may 
appeal to some of our members, a more adult spider design than the  typical 
kid oriented Halloween type thing. The Julie lace fabric is based on a  
piece of Schneeberger lace that will be recognizable to many of us, a reindeer. 
 Also, check out the "Greyhound Toile". Making a fabric from a pet photo 
seems  like a natural. 
Bobbin holders, cover cloths...
I don't know that I will ever be able to buy a non-custom  fabric again.
 
Wow.
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] Cover cloths

[Nancy Neff]

I have found that sometimes the selvedge edge can be a little "furry" with
ends of the weft threads, in which case I have found that it is still thin and
smooth if I fold those edges carefully under, "taping" them down with thin
iron-on hem tape.  My favorite working cloth has that finish on the edge under
the bobbin threads.  The trick is to lightly iron the tape to the "fur" before
folding, then fold under to get a neat edge and iron firmly.  This works fine
on thinnish to medium-weight cotton.
 
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
 
>
> From: Jo Ann Eurell 
>To: lace@arachne.com 
>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:30 PM
>Subject:
[lace] Cover cloths
>  
>In a recent workshop, Susie Johnson (PA) suggested
when making a cover cloth
>that I should use the selvedge edge of the fabric
for one edge and hem or
>finish the other three sides of the cloth. The
selvedge edge represents a
>finished edge with less bulk and will lay flatter
under your threads than a
>hemmed or folded edge.  One of my favorite cover
cloth fabrics is an
>inexpensive quilting cotton from Jo Ann's Fabrics called
Country Classics.
>It is 100% cotton and fairly thin - thinner than Kona
cotton which I found
>to be too bulky.  Make sure you wash it several times to
make sure that any
>residual dye is removed.  What fabric have others used? 
>
>Jo Ann Eurell
>Palm Coast, FL 
>

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RE: [lace] exchange/friendship

[mary carey]

Hi All,

Must be 15 years ago that a self-published booklet "15 Lace Patterns of
Crosses" by Jenny Koops of South Africa was mentioned on the list.  Janis
Savage arranged for friends of hers to carry a copy to Sydney and sent two
very nicely painted bobbins for me.

Recently (last year I think) Janis was in Melbourne to see her son and his
family and I was able to go out to Sydney Airport to have a coffee with her
during her layover and finally meet her.

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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[lace] 20th Anniversary

[Jean Nathan]

Liz wrote:

Bellinis but I was thinking that I'd love a spider broach to celebrate.>


I, and I'm sure many others, have an Arachne enamelled badge. Can't remember 
how long ago I got it.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK. 


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Re: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins......

[Sue Duckles]

Noelene that's BRILLIANT!!

Thanks for the giggle!!

Sue in a damp East yorkshire
On 16 Mar 2013, at 20:28, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

> As I have received a couple of requests for "How Many Bobbins", here it is.
> I hope this works with just line feeds in the right places. 
> I may not have posted it before, it's quite long for one of my poems.
> 
> "How Many Bobbins" by Noelene Lafferty
> 
> A friend asked me once
> 
> With a quizzical air
> "Just how many bobbins are needed?
> If you want to make lace
> And not spend too much cash
> And then they've all got to be beaded."
> 
> I took a deep breath
> And collected my thoughts
> Just how many bobbins' enough?
> I thought of my bobbins
> In boxes and rolls
> Just trying to count would be tough.
> 
> "You need some to start with
> To make bandage strips"
> "Are bobbins that sharp" she did ask.
> I ignored that remark
> And started again
> This would be quite a difficult task
> 
> "To start with you need
> About 20 odd pair"
> "You can't have an odd pair.." "Pipe down"
> "But to move on to bookmarks
> And simple lace edges.. "
> And at this she started to frown.
> 
> "You mean you need lots more
> But how many's enough?"
> There must be a target to aim for.
> Like Miss Channer's Mat
> How many for that?"
> I took another deep breath and said "More".
> 
> "To do Miss Channer's Mat
> You need three hundred or more
> That's pairs, and not for the faint hearted.
> And then you need more
> For the pillows galore
> On which other projects are started."
> 
> My friend looked at me
> With her quizzical air
> "Just how many pillows are needed?
> If you want to make lace
> And not spend too much cash?"
> "I've no answer to that!"  I conceded.
> 
> Noelene in Cooma
> nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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RE: [lace] 20th anniversary/custom printed fabric

[mary carey]

Hi All,

Personally I prefer plain fabric to cover both pillows and cover cloths.

One person has already mentioned machine embroidery, would not be difficult to
make a plain homespun cover cloth with a specially designed motif in the
corner.

Am doing some Aussie flowers on the corners of some fabric given to me for
OIDFA in Adelaide - they will be about 18" square.

Recently made myself a cover cloth with a hole in the middle to fit the French
fan cross I make regularly for Weddings and First Communions and find that it
just fits the Torchon Ring patterns designed by Alice Vokac - book a
fundraiser also for OIDFA Alelaide.

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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RE: [lace] Silly Questions (another subject change!)

[mary carey]

Hi All,

I agree with Jane, the question should be asked if something is to be found
out.

The rest of us who are not interested in the question and/or the answer all
have a delete button on their computer.

Mary Carey

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[lace] cover cloths

[hottleco]

Hello All!  John, I must say I truly enjoyed your question!  Back in the day, I 
owned several pretty cover/working cloths, although they always stayed in my 
lace tote bag.  I never used them until I attended a Milanese class with Mrs. 
Read.  She very patiently explained their purpose but I was all thumbs.  
Arranging, pinning, then re-arranging cloths just seemed like a waste of my 
lacemaking time.  When our class took a break, I returned to find my work 
covered with a cloth.  A fellow student was horrified that I hadn't covered my 
work so she donated a pale green cloth to my pillow!  Other students gathered & 
one recommended using a horseshoe shaped cloth, saying that it might be easier 
for me to use.  Another gal had made some horseshoe shaped cloths & offered 
them for sale so I bought one.  It is quite lovely, navy blue on one side & an 
orange/yellow flower print on the other side.  I promptly installed it with the 
floral side up, with the new green cloth to the side.  Poo!
 r Mrs. Read--I think this is where she laughed so hard she cried!  In any 
event, you have brought back fond memories of my indoctrination into the 
business of cover cloths.  As a side note, I still have the green cloth to 
which I appliqued my "L is for Lace" in the corner.  Here's hoping that 
colorful cover cloths are in your future!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach 
Gardens, FL, USA

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Re: [lace] cover cloths

[Liz and Ken Roberts]

I have been using old sheets to cover the pillow, and bandanas under the
bobbins.  I found some bandanas at a thrift store with spider webs on it.  I
thought they were very appropriate!  I choose colors and prints I like and of
a weight that will wash well.  They seem to be about the right size for the
small pillows and small amount of bobbins I use.  When I stop working on the
lace I just fold the bandana up and over the bobbins.

Liz where Spring has sprung and the birds are singing like crazy.

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[lace] 20th anniversary

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

I'm not sure if it was the afternoon learning to crochet or the three Bellinis 
but I was thinking that I'd love a spider broach to celebrate.

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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RE: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins......

[Noelene Lafferty]

As I have received a couple of requests for "How Many Bobbins", here it is.
I hope this works with just line feeds in the right places. 
I may not have posted it before, it's quite long for one of my poems.

"How Many Bobbins" by Noelene Lafferty

A friend asked me once

With a quizzical air
"Just how many bobbins are needed?
If you want to make lace
And not spend too much cash
And then they've all got to be beaded."

I took a deep breath
And collected my thoughts
Just how many bobbins' enough?
I thought of my bobbins
In boxes and rolls
Just trying to count would be tough.

"You need some to start with
To make bandage strips"
"Are bobbins that sharp" she did ask.
I ignored that remark
And started again
This would be quite a difficult task

"To start with you need
About 20 odd pair"
"You can't have an odd pair.." "Pipe down"
"But to move on to bookmarks
And simple lace edges.. "
And at this she started to frown.

"You mean you need lots more
But how many's enough?"
There must be a target to aim for.
Like Miss Channer's Mat
How many for that?"
I took another deep breath and said "More".

"To do Miss Channer's Mat
You need three hundred or more
That's pairs, and not for the faint hearted.
And then you need more
For the pillows galore
On which other projects are started."

My friend looked at me
With her quizzical air
"Just how many pillows are needed?
If you want to make lace
And not spend too much cash?"
"I've no answer to that!"  I conceded.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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[lace] Cover cloths

[Jean Nathan]

I cut old bed sheets into suitable for sizes for dressing cloths (that's 
what I call the one I put over the pricking and under the bobbins and 
threads and for wrapping the bobbins for travel) and cover cloths placed 
over the pillow to keep dust, etc off when not being worked on.


I haven't done any for a while, but when I design a piece of machine 
embroidery or want to try out a bought design, I put them on my cover cloth. 
So far I have Ben, my border collie who passed away a couple of years ago 
and several attempts at the Poole Bobbin Lace Circle logo both designed by 
me, and a bolster pillow with work in progress and pair of spangled bobbins 
hanging from a "piece of lace" which were commercially produced. Not only 
does it brighten my cover cloth, but it gives me somewhere to try a machine 
embroidery before committing it to a finished item.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Help me find this book

[Celtic Dream Weaver]

I checked out your link and that pattern looks very cool. I am glad you were
able to find the book. I like the flower looking collar too.  
Wind To Thy
Wings,
Sherry
celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com
http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/
Nata 616

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[lace] cover cloths

[Lyn Bailey]

I have two sources for cover cloths.  I have a sewing machine, so I can hem 
fabric quickly.  The first source was a duvet/comforter cover from Lands' 
End (clothing and bedding in the USA) which, after over 10 years constant 
use, shredded in the middle, but had usable edges.  Only problem was it was 
no good as a work cloth, because putting a pin through the stuff, simple 
percale, was very difficult.  Great for cover cloths of all sorts of sizes. 
Also a cheap bobbin roll.  deep green.
The other source is from inweave.com, usual disclaimers, satisfied customer. 
The price is good, 100% cotton is just that.  And the description makes it 
easy to order without touching the fabric, number of ounces per square yard 
for weight, exact description of feel, drape, possible uses.  They used to 
use Crayola Crayons to help describe the colors.  Prices can be very good, a 
wide range of colors.  If you don't like them, wait a while, and you might 
find something suitable.  They also send swatches.  Go to home decorating 
fabrics, then to duck/twills, then to twills. 
http://www.inweavefabric.com/2m8/home-dec-fabric/duck-twill/twill.html 
Nice for all sorts of uses.


I think that to a certain extent cover cloths are like bobbins.  You can 
never have too many.  I have one embroidered cover cloth because of the 
embroidery.  But it is thick polyester, and not as nice as the cotton ones. 
Or linen.


Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we're having a dreary Saturday. 
Chilly, cloudy, damp. 


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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary/custom printed fabric

[Sharon Morrison]

Hi everyone,

I am new to Arachne and started learning bobbin lace Fall 2012.

I like to make lots of things and my immediate family has attended the Bay 
Area Maker Faire for the last three years (http://makerfaire.com/).  Maker 
faire is kind of like a State fair, but for people who like to make things 
with old, new and cutting edge technology.  Two years ago I saw a booth from 
a company called Spoonflower.  Spoonflower will custom print small lots of 
any design on a variety of fabric weight & fibers - 
http://www.spoonflower.com/welcome.


Perhaps we could make some kind of 'tools of lace making' fabric (with 
bobbins, shuttles, crochet hooks, needles etc.) or 'lace sampler' fabric 
with Arachne Anniversary notation.  Then people could use the fabric for a 
variety of lace items depending on what they need - cover cloths, tatting 
carry bags, bobbin carriers etc.  (Or maybe lace terminology in all the 
languages spoken/used by lacemakers on the list?  I've seen thank you mugs 
and bags done in this style and they look very interesting with different 
fonts/colors)



Sharon (Just east of Seattle, WA)

p.s. Julie from Lacemakers of Puget Sound shared some fabric which she 
designed and had Spoonflower print 
http://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/julielace


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[lace] Silly Questions (another subject change!)

[Jane Partridge]

You know, one of the things I like about Arachne is that we *don't* mind 
people asking the same question over again, and that the answer to a 
simple question like John's might also be the answer to someone else who 
is too afraid/shy/embarrassed to ask. That has been a feature of the 
list for all of the time it has been going (not that many questions had 
been asked when I joined!). Not everyone has time to go searching 
through archives for answers that may or may not be there - and I 
believe not all messages have been archived.


As we've said before, a question asked more than once over several years 
may elicit the same answer, but in some cases, may elicit an importantly 
more up-to-date answer - I'm sure Jeri would agree with me that her 
method of cleaning lace is not the same as that which was the approved 
method 100 years ago, and that sometimes looking up an archived answer 
can give the wrong information!


On one of the railway lists I subscribe to, nearly every person who asks 
a question gets told to look in the archives... not very helpful when 
you want a quick answer, and to be honest, I sometimes find the "go and 
find out for yourself" response off-putting - you thought you were doing 
that by asking people who know the answers - so then you daren't ask 
anything in case it has been asked before and you will get the same 
"brush-off".





In message <25c6c.166d86f0.3e760...@aol.com>, jeria...@aol.com writes

Whenever you encounter a new lace term, we recommend our Arachne  archives.
Go there, and put the lace term in the Search box.   All our past
correspondence is there, making our Web Master the busiest  of all our 
Arachnes.

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Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center



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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[KATRINA WORLEY]

I often use a cloth similar to a cover cloth when I'm knitting or tatting... I
lay it on my lap so that I can drop my work into it, wrap it quickly and move
it so it doesn't get tangled/dirty when putting it into my bag. When spinning,
a similar cloth keeps lint and dust off my clothes. Rather than covering my
lace pillow, it covers my lap. Sometimes these cloths are simple woven
dishtowels from Ikea or World Market, but other times they're linen tea towels
picked up on my travels.

Katrina

--
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Loomis, California
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On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Jane Partridge 
wrote:

> Not much use to a tatter, knitter or crocheter, and possibly only a little
so to a needle-lacemaker! We do tend to forget that there are forms of lace
other than bobbin lace on Arachne :-)
>
> To answer John's question, it is usually either a square or rectangle of
cloth, about the size of a tea-towel, that can either
> a) sit over the bottom half of a pricking/under the bobbins (when it is
often called a 'working cloth') - this has the advantage of stopping the
threads rubbing against the edges of the pricking or, on a fully dressed
pillow (which also has cloths covering the sides of the pricking or completed
work) catching on pins that have been pushed down or
> b) be placed over the pillow and any work on it when you move away for any
reason - either placed on if you are coming straight back, or pinned on for
transportation.
>
> Cover cloths used under the bobbins are usually plain material to stop you
going bozz-eyed after working for hours!
>
> In message
, John
Mead  writes
>> OK, I'll air my ignorance, a quick google search didn't look very
>> successful.
>>
>> What's a cover cloth?
>>
>> yrs,
>>
>> John Mead
>> Tacoma, WA USA
>
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[lace] cover cloths

[Bev Walker]

Hello Jane and everyone

One of our generic terms that could be either/or... I call a cover cloth
the one used to do the covering of the lace, and a work cloth the one used
under the work in progress to (in my case) keep the pillow surface clean as
the bobbins are swooped back and forth, as well as preventing threads
catching on the pricking edge.
If I'm transporting the work in progress, I flip the work cloth up over the
bobbins, pin all to the pillow, pin a cover cloth over that and all into
the pillow carry bag...
My favourite work cloth has a small hole in the middle to expose the
working area and cover the rest of the pillow although this style is
limited to the available working area equal to the size of the hole in the
cloth. Some use clear vinyl so that they can see the entire area.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jane Partridge <
jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> a) sit over the bottom half of a pricking/under the bobbins (when it is
> often called a 'working cloth') - this has the advantage of stopping the
> threads rubbing against the edges of the pricking or, on a fully dressed
> pillow (which also has cloths covering the sides of the pricking or
> completed work) catching on pins that have been pushed down or
> b) be placed over the pillow and any work on it when you move away for any
> reason - either placed on if you are coming straight back, or pinned on for
> transportation.
>


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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[lace] Cover Cloths (Subject change)

[Jeriames]

Dear John Mead,
 
Welcome to our list.  I put aside your letter from the other day, and  will 
comment on it later as it requires some more thinking time.
 
A cover cloth is usually a large square of fabric of a size that will  
completely cover a bobbin lace pillow. It can be pinned to the pillow with  
something like pearl-headed corsage pins from a craft shop.
 
It becomes double-insurance against tangled bobbins when you are moving a  
lace pillow, such as when it is being taken to another table or being put in 
a  tote bag to be taken to a group meeting or lace-making demonstration 
site  (historic house, museum, school, etc.).  People with inquisitive small  
children and pets also find a cover cloth necessary.  Most  cloths are in 
color, but definitely must be color-fast (no dyes that will  run when a liquid 
is spilled on them, or rub off dye on lace  threads), the fabric should be 
tightly-woven not a fuzzy material that  sheds and can get worked into lace.  
Some lace makers embroider their  cloths and edge them in lace, but it is 
not necessary.  When I was around  beginning lace makers years ago, I used to 
bring a supply of large dinner  napkins for the purpose, so they would have 
something that did not add to their  start-up expenses.
 
A cover cloth also keeps dust, pet hair, insects, etc.  from settling into 
your threads and lace equipment when your  pillow is not in use.  (Though 
not recommended, some lace makers put  works-in-progress away for a long time!)
 
Years ago, Arachne had a topic about people walking around a lace  
demonstration site looking for pillows that were unattended.   Perhaps  the 
makers 
had gone away for lunch, for example.  There were sinister types  who would 
walk around with small scissors in their hands, and snip off  interesting 
bobbins (antiques, and fancy painted ones with very desirable  spangles 
(spangles are glass beads that prevent some styles of  English bobbins from 
rolling 
and weight the bobbins, threaded on  wires through drilled holes in the 
bobbins).  Ever since,  demonstrators have used pinned-down cover cloths 
whenever pillows are left  unattended.  Hopefully, this dastardly criminal 
behavior is no longer  practiced.
 
Spangling is another big topic.
 
Whenever you encounter a new lace term, we recommend our Arachne  archives. 
 Go there, and put the lace term in the Search box.   All our past 
correspondence is there, making our Web Master the busiest  of all our 
Arachnes.   
At this moment there are 138  entries under "Cover Cloths", and this one 
should find its way there  because I changed the subject line.  The address:
 
_http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html_ 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html)   
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

 
In a message dated 3/16/2013 12:38:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
johnbobm...@gmail.com writes:

OK, I'll  air my ignorance, a quick google search didn't look very
successful.   What's a cover cloth?  John Mead
Tacoma, WA  USA

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[lace] Re: 20th anniversary

[John Mead]

Thanks!  I had a half suspicion that it might be that, but it was only a
half suspicion.  I was pretty sure it wasn't a bread cover, which is what
lace and cover cloth was pulling up on google.  I'll bear this in mind for
if/when I start doing bobbin lace again, it's been thirty years since I did
lace making.

Yours,

John Mead
Tacoma, WA USA


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jane Partridge <
jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Not much use to a tatter, knitter or crocheter, and possibly only a little
> so to a needle-lacemaker! We do tend to forget that there are forms of lace
> other than bobbin lace on Arachne :-)
>
> To answer John's question, it is usually either a square or rectangle of
> cloth, about the size of a tea-towel, that can either
> a) sit over the bottom half of a pricking/under the bobbins (when it is
> often called a 'working cloth') - this has the advantage of stopping the
> threads rubbing against the edges of the pricking or, on a fully dressed
> pillow (which also has cloths covering the sides of the pricking or
> completed work) catching on pins that have been pushed down or
> b) be placed over the pillow and any work on it when you move away for any
> reason - either placed on if you are coming straight back, or pinned on for
> transportation.
>
> Cover cloths used under the bobbins are usually plain material to stop you
> going bozz-eyed after working for hours!
>
> In message  gmail.com <05huwshooknepxpj0%2b5...@mail.gmail.com>>, John Mead <
> johnbobm...@gmail.com> writes
>
>> OK, I'll air my ignorance, a quick google search didn't look very
>> successful.
>>
>> What's a cover cloth?
>>
>> yrs,
>>
>> John Mead
>> Tacoma, WA USA
>>
>
> --
> Jane Partridge
>
>

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[lace] Re: Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[Susan Reishus]

 
Jeri’s point is well taken.  There are those who are used to taking and
keeping things to/for
themselves.  There are those who give
(in the smallest
percentage - scientifically only 8%), and must understand that
they must
consider the source of the nastiness is really someone showing you
who they
are, and has nothing to do with you.  These types are insecure and easily
threatened, so if they
cannot contest your knowledge then will knit-pick about
other things, just to
make themselves feel more power and control.  It is
highly dysfunctional, as any differing opinion can be
stated in a kind and
constructive way.  
 
At some point, all must consider moving beyond
themselves
and their own personal ego and agenda, to think of the betterment
of
whole.  That includes keeping
lacemaking alive and perpetuating knowledge
about lace; done in goodwill and
with joy of sharing.  Comradery
should have
a positive goal (vs. the negative tactic of building allies which
is a
admittance of self-doubt, as you need to draw in others to justify your
position subconsciously knowing your are wrong or insecure).
 
I know of and
have heard about, so many knowledgeable
lacemakers who have left the group
because of nastiness, which is tragic and
limits knowledge.  One must
understand that there is more than one way to execute a task/technique, and
sharing should open minds and evolve lacemaking.  If everyone gave up, the
world would stand still or deteriorate. 
 
The 92% of the population that are
character disordered,
needs to consider whether their personal agenda is
helping them, others, and
the overall foundation of lace.  Consideration and
empathy in action, is a beginning.  Someone new to lace may provide insights
from their own creativity that to date, does not exist. 
 
At some point we
need to move beyond ourselves, and think on
a grander scale.  I see sharing
on
lists as my personal tithing.  If
someone is nasty, they are telling you
who they are, and it is your job to not
take it on, and possibly let them know
that their behavior is inappropriate.  
 
Unfortunately, this list has a bad
reputation, and it would
be refreshing if the dysfunction was abated and more
people engaged in
contributing, no matter where their knowledge (or lack
thereof) is coming
from.  Knowledgeable people can
also learn simple things
that escaped them, and we all benefit.  
 
And sometimes yes, it is faster
to ask the question, then
spend hours searching the archives.  I would rather
that, than reading berations.  Life is short – let’s make the most of it,
and in contributing
to lace.
 
Best,
Susan Reishus 

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[lace] 20th anniversary

[Jane Partridge]

Not much use to a tatter, knitter or crocheter, and possibly only a 
little so to a needle-lacemaker! We do tend to forget that there are 
forms of lace other than bobbin lace on Arachne :-)


To answer John's question, it is usually either a square or rectangle of 
cloth, about the size of a tea-towel, that can either
a) sit over the bottom half of a pricking/under the bobbins (when it is 
often called a 'working cloth') - this has the advantage of stopping the 
threads rubbing against the edges of the pricking or, on a fully dressed 
pillow (which also has cloths covering the sides of the pricking or 
completed work) catching on pins that have been pushed down or
b) be placed over the pillow and any work on it when you move away for 
any reason - either placed on if you are coming straight back, or pinned 
on for transportation.


Cover cloths used under the bobbins are usually plain material to stop 
you going bozz-eyed after working for hours!


In message 
, 
John Mead  writes

OK, I'll air my ignorance, a quick google search didn't look very
successful.

What's a cover cloth?

yrs,

John Mead
Tacoma, WA USA


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[lace] Jeanette's shoulder, Noelene's poetry.(subject change)....

[Jeriames]

Oh!  Jeanette,
 
How sorry I am to read you are somewhat incapacitated.
 
Your were still able to type a note to us - using one hand.  Just  shows 
what you can do "with one hand tied behind your back".  (An American  
expression to describe busy women.) 
 
Everyone - if Jeanette (South Africa) had not corresponded openly on  
Arachne, we would not have pursued private correspondence, which led to our  
arranging to meet each other last year at the OIDFA congress in France.  It  
was 
something we both enjoyed looking forward to, and it was fun.
 
Perhaps there are people who do not know that Noelene's lace poems  were 
published in a 16-page booklet "Inspired by Lace", 2004, that  could be 
purchased from at least one lace book vendor (because that is how it  came into 
my 
library).  Perhaps Noelene will read this note and know  that some of us 
would like to purchase and read an expanded  version.  Perhaps it could be 
offered first at the OIDFA Congress in  Australia next year?
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  
--
 
In a message dated 3/16/2013 2:14:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeane...@maxitec.co.za writes:

Just  think how much poorer we all would have been without Noelene's
wonderful  witty poems!!!  Then she is even generous enough to allow them
being  used in newsletters the world over!

I hope Arachne lasts another 20  years!  How many of us will still be around
then :-))

Jeanette  Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.  Typing with one hand  after
shoulder  surgery!

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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[John Mead]

OK, I'll air my ignorance, a quick google search didn't look very
successful.

What's a cover cloth?

yrs,

John Mead
Tacoma, WA USA


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Lin Hudren  wrote:

> Sorry.  Maybe a charm could be put together as well.  that could go on a
> pin format, or a spangle, or even just pinned to the pin cushion.
>
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> Overton, NV USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Lin Hudren  wrote:
>
> > Perhaps a small "catalog" would allow persons to pick their need.
>  usually
> > i buy it all but that isn't always true for others.  When i started
> lacing
> > about 13 years ago, i bought more bobbins and used antique/vintage
> cloths.
> >  i, too, have few but my bobbin count is over 1,000.  either would be a
> > smile each time i went to my pillow.
> >
> > Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> > Overton, NV USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM, David C COLLYER
> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Friends,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Personally I think a 20th anniversary on the Internet deserves something
> >> a lot more substantial than merely a nice cover cloth.
> >> - a beautiful bobbin by Stuart Johnson
> >> - a panel made by all of us (perhaps in each continent)
> >>
> >> David in Ballarat, AUS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Maybe it would be a good idea for each country (?) to have their own
> >>> cover cloth made and despatched by their 'local' manufacturer
> >>>
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> acemaker/sets/>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> > Always remember that no matter how useless you feel, you’re someone’s
> > reason to smile.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> Always remember that no matter how useless you feel, you’re someone’s
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[lace] exchange/friendship

[Whitham, Irene & Steve]

I have learned so much from the list, I am ever thankful.  I'm not sure when
I joined the list but probably about 2000 as I started making lace in 2000.

 

I do have a question, I'm sure many friendships have been made through
Arachne, but how many friendships have been made from an exchange?

 

I have participated in several exchanges and secret pals but one in
particular became special..

 

At Christmas 2009, I was paired with a lovely lady and we continue to
communicate.  We met at IOLI, Portland, 2010 and will be roommates in Salt
Lake City.

 

I hope others have experienced this...Arachne makes the world seem smaller,

 

Irene Whitham

Surrey, BC Canada

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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[Lin Hudren]

Sorry.  Maybe a charm could be put together as well.  that could go on a
pin format, or a spangle, or even just pinned to the pin cushion.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
Overton, NV USA






On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Lin Hudren  wrote:

> Perhaps a small "catalog" would allow persons to pick their need.  usually
> i buy it all but that isn't always true for others.  When i started lacing
> about 13 years ago, i bought more bobbins and used antique/vintage cloths.
>  i, too, have few but my bobbin count is over 1,000.  either would be a
> smile each time i went to my pillow.
>
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> Overton, NV USA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM, David C COLLYER
wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>
>> Personally I think a 20th anniversary on the Internet deserves something
>> a lot more substantial than merely a nice cover cloth.
>> - a beautiful bobbin by Stuart Johnson
>> - a panel made by all of us (perhaps in each continent)
>>
>> David in Ballarat, AUS
>>
>>
>>
>>  Maybe it would be a good idea for each country (?) to have their own
>>> cover cloth made and despatched by their 'local' manufacturer
>>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
> Always remember that no matter how useless you feel, you’re someone’s
> reason to smile.
>
>


--
Hugs, Lin and the Mali
Always remember that no matter how useless you feel, you’re someone’s
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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[Lin Hudren]

Perhaps a small "catalog" would allow persons to pick their need.  usually
i buy it all but that isn't always true for others.  When i started lacing
about 13 years ago, i bought more bobbins and used antique/vintage cloths.
 i, too, have few but my bobbin count is over 1,000.  either would be a
smile each time i went to my pillow.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
Overton, NV USA





On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM, David C COLLYER
wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>>
>
> Personally I think a 20th anniversary on the Internet deserves something a
> lot more substantial than merely a nice cover cloth.
> - a beautiful bobbin by Stuart Johnson
> - a panel made by all of us (perhaps in each continent)
>
> David in Ballarat, AUS
>
>
>
>  Maybe it would be a good idea for each country (?) to have their own
>> cover cloth made and despatched by their 'local' manufacturer
>>
>
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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[David C COLLYER]

Dear Friends,


Personally I think a 20th anniversary on the Internet deserves 
something a lot more substantial than merely a nice cover cloth.

- a beautiful bobbin by Stuart Johnson
- a panel made by all of us (perhaps in each continent)

David in Ballarat, AUS


Maybe it would be a good idea for each country (?) to have their own 
cover cloth made and despatched by their 'local' manufacturer


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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[nestalace . carol]

Hello Spiders All,

Maybe it would be a good idea for each country (?) to have their own cover 
cloth made and despatched by their 'local' manufacturer - that would probably 
diminish slightly any overseas costs etc - and I am sure that a company in 
Redruth, Cornwall (I think!) called HandPrint would certainly be able to come 
up with the goods, for those of us in the UK.   When I taught the lace class in 
school, they made some lovely sweat shirts with the school's lace logo on - so 
the class sweatshirt was extremely popular!

The logo for the 20th Anniversary covercloth could be something as unoriginal 
as '20th Anniversary of Arachne' with a picture of a stylised spider!

Carol Adkinson - in North Norfolk UK.
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'

Subject: Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

That's a lovely idea!
But, does anyone know where we can have covercloths done with (I assume) some 
wording/years printed on it? Who would take on the task, collect payment, 
despatch to everyone who would like one etc. etc.
Agnes Boddington - Elooughton UK


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[lace] the book has been found

[Jenny Brandis]

Thank you Cindy Rusak and Christine Johnson from Arachne for finding the
authors site for me In just 12 hours!!!. I have found it for sale on Barbara
Fay site
 for 39 Euro and have sent through my order.  It can also be found at
Van Sciver   in
the US and Josco in Australia 



Christine Mirecki

SPITZE VON EINST IN KLÖPPELBRIEFEN VON HEUTE / FORMER LACE IN PRICKINGS FOR
TODAY / DENTELLES D'AUTREFOIS AVEC DES PATRONS D'AUJOURD'HUI

Der Günther-Katalog von 1909 / From The Günther Catalogue 1909 / d'après le
catalogue Günther 1909

Leezen (D) 2011, 112 pp., 29.7 × 21 cm, hardback
Text: German, English, French



ISBN:BCM01



You can see the piece I was looking to identify on the front cover in the
bottom right corner.



Regards





Jenny Brandis

Kununurra, Western Australia

je...@brandis.com.au

www.brandis.com.au 

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Re: [lace] - Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[David C COLLYER]

Dear Friends,
I often wonder whatever became of Susan of Tennessee???

Remember the "fun" she gave us back around '98?

David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Help me find this book

[Cindy Rusak]

Hi All,

After a quick search, I came up with this:
http://christinemirecki.wordpress.com/kloeppelbriefe/buecher/505-2/, for
anyone interested in obtaining the book.  I also checked a couple of US
suppliers and it was available, so probably at other suppliers as well.

Cheers,
Cindy Rusak, Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jenny Brandis  wrote:

> Hi Liz
>
> This is why, whenever I use a pattern from the web I try to find the
> original source and buy that. If I can find out which book this came from,
> it is going to be purchased and placed into my lace library. Mind you, I
> would never have found this book on my own, so seeing the pattern online is
> actually going to make a new sale for the author :-) You will notice it is
> a
> lowres version I have placed up for identification purposes. Once the book
> is found those details will go on the site and the scans will come down.
>
> It's good to do the right thing by the author/ designer - I just need to
> find out who they are.
>
> Regards
> Jenny B
>

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[lace] The Book for Jenny B

[Christine Johnson]

Hi Jenny,

I seldom post to Arachne - partly because I get the digest, can't just
press Reply to post and my short-term memory is getting very close to
non-existent so I can't remember the e-mail address and have to go look
it up each time.

That said, I still have the visual memory to recognise the origin of
most lace patterns - Jenny B the book you need is "Spitze von Einst in
Kloppelbriefen von Heute" (with apologies to our German members for the
missing umlaut) by Christine Mirecki, published in 2011.

Annette, I'm so sorry to hear about Kerry Taylor.

Christine Johnson in Sydney.

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RE: [lace] Help me find this book

[Jenny Brandis]

Hi Liz

This is why, whenever I use a pattern from the web I try to find the
original source and buy that. If I can find out which book this came from,
it is going to be purchased and placed into my lace library. Mind you, I
would never have found this book on my own, so seeing the pattern online is
actually going to make a new sale for the author :-) You will notice it is a
lowres version I have placed up for identification purposes. Once the book
is found those details will go on the site and the scans will come down. 

It's good to do the right thing by the author/ designer - I just need to
find out who they are.

Regards
Jenny B

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From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
The Lace Bee


I think it is sad that there are many sites around the web where people have
put p pictures of the lace they have made without a nod to the designer of
the pattern.  We see the pictures, fall in love with them and can't then
make the piece ourselves.

However, what is of more of a concern is that the hard work that designers
are putting into their work is being ignored by putting copies of their
patterns, to which they own the copyright, into the web for free download.
Apart from loosing the income, their hardworking isn't even acknowledged.

L

PS, sometimes it's not that I'm lurking its just that I'm too busy at work
to take part.  But I have the most extensive library on how to wash,
preserve and make lace from the mails I have read over the years that I've
been on acrachne.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] 20th anniversary

[Agnes Boddington]

That's a lovely idea!
But, does anyone know where we can have covercloths done with (I assume) 
some wording/years printed on it? Who would take on the task, collect 
payment, despatch to everyone who would like one etc. etc.

Agnes Boddington - Elooughton UK



I like the idea of a cover cloth for the 20th anniversary.B  I do have more
bobbins than I can count, but there are never enough cover cloths, and a
commemorative one would be really nice
Sue


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Re: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins......

[Agnes Boddington]

Hi Noelene
If you did, I have never seen it.
Agnes Boddington in Elloughton UK


Did I ever post my poem "How many bobbins do you need?" on Arachne?  


Noelene in Cooma


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[lace] 20th anniversary

[suebabbs]

I like the idea of a cover cloth for the 20th anniversary.  I do have more
bobbins than I can count, but there are never enough cover cloths, and a
commemorative one would be really nice



I'm not averse to the idea of a bobbin too!



As to people who read but don't post - I am happy for you to do so, but
equally well would love to hear from you, with either comments or questions. 
On the whole, we don't bite and are very gentle!! Fpr those of you who are
newer to the list, we have been going for many years, with many of us on the
list for much of that time, so many questions and topics have already been
discussed.  This can make the list seem rather erudite, but Arachne and Chat
have also beenextremely helpful to me on all occasions (from lace topics to
recipes to how to best move a cat from California to Illinois!)



Sue

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Re: [lace] Help me find this book

[The Lace Bee]

I think it is sad that there are many sites around the web where people have 
put p pictures of the lace they have made without a nod to the designer of the 
pattern.  We see the pictures, fall in love with them and can't then make the 
piece ourselves.

However, what is of more of a concern is that the hard work that designers are 
putting into their work is being ignored by putting copies of their patterns, 
to which they own the copyright, into the web for free download.  Apart from 
loosing the income, their hardworking isn't even acknowledged.

L

PS, sometimes it's not that I'm lurking its just that I'm too busy at work to 
take part.  But I have the most extensive library on how to wash, preserve and 
make lace from the mails I have read over the years that I've been on acrachne.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
>> 
> 
>> The pricking I am having a go at was found online - a scan of pages 32 and
>> 33  from an unknown book that I now want to find so I can add it to my
>> library. There is a lowres  scan on my site and I am asking you to please
>> help me to identify the book.
>> http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/Lace/201303.html
>> 
> 
> 

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[lace] Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[Jane Partridge]

There are two ways of looking at this - one is that if several are 
saying the same thing it shows that is (most likely) the right answer; 
the other is that you may be thinking "that's what I was going to say, 
but I wouldn't have put it like that" - and just maybe, you putting it 
differently, might help the person who doesn't understand it like that!


I'm often away from home for several days at a time, either for Lace 
Guild or Railway duties, (I work part time, close to home so that makes 
little odds) and although I'm on the reflected list it is like getting a 
digest when I get back. Sometimes there is something to pick up on that 
others (by this time the digest readers have had a chance to respond) 
have missed, sometimes it is interesting to see what other snippets 
people have added to their answer (like how hot it is in Australia at 
this time of year, when we here in the UK are freezing!), but rarely do 
we get a string of "me too" answers.


In message <51443fc4.5030...@capuchin.co.uk>, Beth Marshall 
 writes
thanks Cynce - as someone who only picks up emails a couple of times a 
day (and one of those in a hurry with no time to reply before work), I 
often don't reply because what I have to contribute has already been 
said by someone else before I have time to add my two-penny-worth


Beth
In a grey damp Cheshire, NW England

Cynce wrote: I also check to see if my comment has been made by others. 
It gets old to see the same reply 5 or 6 times.


--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[Jane Partridge]

There is a reason for this, that many who have joined the list since the 
change was made won't realise.


Originally, the responses were the other way round, and hitting 'reply' 
sent to the list rather than just the sender.


This caused a problem - because some Arachnes post from computers at 
work, they were unable to turn off the email receipt notification and 
these notifications caused havoc bouncing back and forth - especially in 
the days when we could receive up to 40 Arachne messages per day! The 
only cure was to change things round, so that any automatic receipt 
would go to the sender, not the list - problem solved.


I still have copies of the Arachne Handbooks that were sent 
automatically to new members to the list years ago, (I don't know if 
they still are?) which explain some of the things like why the list 
split (into lace and lace chat), netiquette, etc, would it be worth 
posting them again? Bear in mind, though, that some of the information 
in them is now out of date, but they make interesting reading.


In message , Cynce 
Williams  writes

Small comment. On my system I can usually just hit "reply" to answer to the
group. On Arachne I need to hit "reply all" for my answer to be seen by the
group as well as the person I'm answering. Sometimes I'll repost. Most times I
don't.


--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Help me find this book

[Sue Duckles]

Hi Jenny

As both a bobbin lacemaker and tatter I can imagine what you thought re your
group member wanting to learn this pattern however, as I own a number of
Christines patterns can I just say that her instructions are VERY detailed and
easy to follow!!  She 'talks' you through every stage!  Also, if you get
stuck, I'm sure she wouldn't mind you emailing her!!

Sorry I don't know what the book is but when you find out can you let the
rest of us know please??

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 16 Mar 2013, at 00:28, Jenny Brandis wrote:

>
> Beginning with Torchon lace I have been slow to put my toe into the water
of
> other types but one of our lace group with just a few months under her belt
> has decided to tackle a beds pattern. Not just a simple plait and picot but
> Christine Springetts Heart insertion
>    full on with
> leaves, trail and all and is asking me for help.  EEK

> The pricking I am having a go at was found online - a scan of pages 32 and
> 33  from an unknown book that I now want to find so I can add it to my
> library. There is a lowres  scan on my site and I am asking you to please
> help me to identify the book.
> http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/Lace/201303.html
>

My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] - Lurkers vs. Volunteers

[Beth Marshall]

thanks Cynce - as someone who only picks up emails a couple of times a 
day (and one of those in a hurry with no time to reply before work), I 
often don't reply because what I have to contribute has already been 
said by someone else before I have time to add my two-penny-worth


Beth
In a grey damp Cheshire, NW England

Cynce wrote: I also check to see if my comment has been made by others. 
It gets old to see the same reply 5 or 6 times.


Sue wrote:

When there are probably less than 50 regular contributors to Arachne,  and
we know that there are another 1,000 or so who are lurking, does  that
matter to you?




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[lace] lurkers and posting

[Nicky H-Townsend]

Well said Jane, Lyn, Jeri et al, we come from an incredibly wide and varied
background and all have very different personalities and temperaments and
this shines through in the various responses that this topic has elicited.
There are all kinds of reasons why some lurk more than others, I tend to be
a lurker, not because I don't wish to contribute but more because I get the
digest versions which often means that answers to queries have been sent
before I have even received the posting with the original question, so
invariably what I might say has already been written several times over. 

 

Over the years I've been with Arachne I've had many questions and queries
answered by so many of you knowledgeable folk out there, for which I have
been extremely grateful and I have greatly enjoyed participating in some of
the exchanges that have been organised by various members and I'm so very
glad that they have been willing to take the time to organise them. It's
always great to hear from those who contribute less frequently, but thank
you to all those who are regular contributors, you are not taken for granted
 long may Arachne continue, a commemorative bobbin would be lovely,
I recall purchasing a bobbin some years ago and my arachne cover cloth is in
regular use. 

 

Thank you Jane re: proxy voting - all done. Jeri I do so hope you get your
apprentice, we so need to encourage the next generation to fall in love with
lacemaking and its history. 

Nicky in Suffolk

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