[lace] RIP Catherine Linda Walton
This is to let you all know that Linda Walton, a member of this group and my wife passed away on the 23rd March. The breast cancer which she had about 30 years ago came back and spread. By the time we realised there was nothing that could be done. She died at home, surrounded by her books, with me holding her hand. The funeral is tomorrow, the 14th April. I know that Linda greatly enjoyed being part of this group, thank you all. I tried to post a message earlier but it didn't seem to work, hopefuly this one will. Regards, Chris Rowland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Value of straight laces (was Must I push down pins?)
On 11/11/2015 23:01, Nancy Neff wrote: Julie, I must say that you've put into words what I like so much about continuous lace and have never been able to articulate clearly.[snip] --there's acertain orderliness to straight laces that I find almost comforting. [snip] Yes ! Thank you - all of you - for these messages, from Linda Walton (in damp and foggy High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Need to find . . . link problem
On 27/10/2015 13:12, jeria...@aol.com wrote: >I was trying to get into our archives this morning, and could not. Would someone >else please test http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html Then, I >highlighted the address and tried that. It also failed! [snip] Well, it worked for me . . . But I have to say, several other links that I've tried today have taken more than one approach before they've worked. Maybe the information superhighway is going rusty? Linda Walton, (in damply autumnal High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Picking up after a break - but where to start?
For the last three years I've been studying hard, and have had to put
aside all hobbies to make enough time for it. ("It" being part-time
undergraduate art history at Oxford University). Now I'm very tired and
have decided to take a year out to rest and recover, and I'm really
looking forward to starting to make lace again. However, as I feel I've
forgotten everything I ever knew about lace-making, I've been wondering
where to start.
At first I thought I'd go back to where I began and work through the
exercises in torchon lace that I learned first, before I began to make
my favoutite Bucks. Now I'm thinking that, if I'm going to start again,
I could just as well start by learning something new. But I don't know
what would be a good idea, as I've never taken a great deal of interest
in other sorts of lace. So I'm asking for your help.
All I can tell you is that I really don't like the styles of tape lace
and Bedfordshire. And it would have to be bobbin lace as my arthritic
fingers are forbidden things like knitting, needlework, and using pens
and pencils because of the side-loads these activities put on my finger
joints.
All suggestions gratefully received ! And I'm immensely grateful, too,
for everyone who has sent messages to this list, which have kept me in
touch with the lace world all this time.
Thank you, everyone, from Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
(where the rain has been falling all day, and is forecast to fall all
week, but the garden needs it).
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Re: [lace] color of lace
On 30/06/2015 19:02, Cynce Williams wrote: Or you might look into Pantone colors. Adobe Illustrator accesses them. Be sure that your computer is showing colour accurately: often they vary according to the settings of both supplier and receiver. To see this, choose any famous painting and search on it, and you will find that it comes up in many variations. This applies to photographs in catalogues and books, too. They only confirm that you are both talking about the same work. You can only be sure which one is correct if you can compare it with the original. Linda in High Wycombe - still hot and sticky, it's going to be another sleepless night. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] color of lace
On 30/06/2015 14:59, Regina Haring wrote: [snip] I'd like to know if there is a standard way that these colors are described in museum terminology. My Buckinghamshire County Library Service has copies of the "Methuen Handbook of Colour" both on reference and loan. You can see it here:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Methuen-Handbook-Colour-Ann-Mari-Kornerup/dp/0413334007/ref=sr_1_1/275-8405497-4350702?ie=UTF8&qid=1435685608&sr=8-1&keywords=9780413334008 I understand that it is the standard reference for colours. There is some technical information, but most of the book consists of small squares of all colours, (like a houshold paint chart), each with its own number. That is, so far as I remember. It is some years since I used it, but at that time it was on the recommendation of my sister, for whom it was part of the equipment of all laboratories, where she worked as a senior member of what was then the national forensic science service. Of course, that is nothing to do with museums, but it may still be useful if you can't find anything else. Good luck, and I'm so pleased to learn that someone is doing such a worthwhile job. Linda Walton, (in hot and sticky High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace history timeline
As a history student, I really love time-lines. But I find that the most difficult aspect is finding a way to integrate the geographical aspect. Sorry to make your task more difficult, but I think that the location of the lace's making must be at least as important as the date and style. However, I look forward with great interest to every attempt to achieve this research project, and hope that we might share in seeing the work-in-progress. Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. (still hoping that some day I will find a way to represent the complicated family trees of the medieval European nobility, who could have three or four spouses each in a lifetime, and whose families were much intermarried, and where becoming a god-parent at a christening really meant becoming part of the family too - multi-dimensional geometry anyone?). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Wish list of teachers
If I could choose from the past, it would be Raie Clare; alas, a teacher also deceased, I have heard. This was the lady whose "Book of Bobbin Lace" got me started. I'd seen someone's lace pillow and it captivated me, although I'd never seen lace being made. Then I found Raie Clare's video in our local library, and was at once inspired to believe that this was something I could do too. So I went out and bought her book and pack of patterns, and contacted a supplier listed in the back of the book and bought a beginner's pillow and other necessities. Her book is here on amazon:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Bobbin-Lace-Raie-Clare/dp/0852197101/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1435584872&sr=1-1&keywords=Raie+Clare and I see that it was published in 1987. It was still in print when I bought it: can it really have been so long ago? I couldn't have had a better start, and have loved making lace ever since. No-one ever seems to mention her: does anyone know anything about her? Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., (where it's cool and cloudy. We were warned of a heatwave, but I haven't needed to take off my woolly jumper yet !). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace in film from 1888
I agree - when I first saw it I thought they were dancing, but the text below says:- "Among the group was Louis Le Prince, who had with him a curious mahogany box. He asked the others in attendance - his son, parents-in-law and a friend - to stand in front of the box and walk in a circle." If this was the first ever movie, I suppose walking would be as much as you would expect to cope with; dancing might come later. Such a pity about his early death. Linda, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where the Sun has come out at last, but it's a cool evening. However, I can see the vacation ahead, lots of time - at last - to make some lace . . . if only I can remember how!) On 23/06/2015 17:27, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Dear Linda, Thank you. That was fun to watch. Does anyone think they might have been dancing? If so, what a nice tribute to dance. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 6/23/2015 10:31:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, linda.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk writes: Here is a link to a brief piece of film from 1888, thought to be the first in the world:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33198686 Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace in film from 1888
Here is a link to a brief piece of film from 1888, thought to be the first in the world:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33198686 It is by Louis Le Prince, who shot it in Leeds, England. One of the ladies seems to be wearing a lace head-dress and some sort of collar. I find it so interesting to see these pieces as they were worn and how they moved when the wearer was walking about. Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Holly Van Sciver's website + Undelivered mail
No problem reaching Holly's website with Firefox. And no problem receiving e-mails from everyone on the list. Mozilla Thunderbird (e-mail) and Mozilla Firefox (internet) are so reliable that they are recommended for use by the I.T. department at Oxford, (my university). Also, it's independent and free: download from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ if you wish to try it. I've enjoyed it for many years. Linda Walton, (in damp and gloomy Buckinghamshire). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Bucks point
Oh how very pretty. Will it be mounted in some way? It looks like a piece that should be shown off. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we have had a weekend of April showers, but now we are starting a beautiful Spring day - and it's almost lovely May). On 27/04/2015 00:31, Lorelei Halley wrote: Jung Hae Kyung, [her] Bucks point lace [snip] http://laceioli.ning.com/photo/buckspoint-lace-3/next?context=user - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace Police
On 22/04/2015 07:47, Alex Stillwell wrote: [snip]Incidentally just last week I caught one of my students using a bobbin with the inscription YOU CAN FUDGE IT AS LONG AS TEACHER DOESN T SEE. Guess where she heard that? I must get one.[snip] Wow ! I want one like that, too. When you find out the source, please let us all know. Linda (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Dickey Pots - written sources please? and cherry blossom pattern?
Hi Brenda thank you for all this information. I'm just about to go out to a lecture in Oxford, but I will start to check it out when I get home again. Linda. On 21/04/2015 11:54, Brenda Paternoster wrote: > Hi Linda > > http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/cnm/html/EXHIBITS/lace/lacehtml/14_firepots.html > > > Thomas Wright âThe Romance of the Lace Pillowâ > http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Romance_of_the_Lace_Pillow_Being_the_History_of_Lace-Making_in_Bucks_1000846278/139 > > http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Romance_of_the_Lace_Pillow_Being_the_History_of_Lace-Making_in_Bucks_1000846278/141 > > If you are looking for contemporary written sources I think you would > need to contact Buckinghamshire county archives. > > Brenda > >> On 21 Apr 2015, at 06:38, Linda Walton >> > <mailto:linda.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk>> wrote: >> >> I would like to write to them about the lack of "dickey pot", but they >> will only accept additions to the dictionary if accompanied by examples >> of written use of the word from dated sources, (as above). So can anyone >> contribute any evidence that I can use in a submission? Indeed, are >> there other words from the history of lace making which ought to be >> recorded formally? > > Brenda in Allhallows > paternos...@appleshack.com <mailto:paternos...@appleshack.com> > www.brendapaternoster.co.uk > > > > > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Dickey Pots - written sources please? and cherry blossom pattern?
On 21/04/2015 07:01, J-D Hammett wrote: > Hi Linda and other Arachnids, > > Is âdickey potâ a local name? What is it? (showing my ignorance?). Well, I think it's local to England; I don't have any information about it's being local to the High Wycombe area, or even the county of Buckinghamshire. I've never seen one, but I understand that it is a small fireproof container, which lacemakers used to keep warm; they would put something like live coals in it and pop it under their skirts to keep their feet warm during the long hours spent sitting at their lace pillows. > My Collins dictionary gives . . . [snip] There are indeed a lot of uses for this word, but I selected the one that seemed relevant to lace makers' warming devices. For me, the "aha!" moment came when I saw that, in the days of the old professional lace makers, it could mean a petticoat and then I made the connection with the foot warmer. Actually, it seems rather dangerous to me. Could they have placed it under a footstool? Do we have any real information about the dickey pot? Was it used by other workers? Has anyone seen a real, (authenticated), one? Linda. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Dickey Pots - written sources please? and cherry blossom pattern?
Recently I was looking up 'tralaticious' in the Oxford English Dictionary Online, and found myself looking up 'dickey pot'. (Well, you know how it is, as you get older?) There was no entry for 'dickey pot', but there was a collection of quotations explaining how one meaning of dickey, (or dicky), was a petticoat - that is, a woman's underskirt. _â 4. An under petticoat. /Obs./_ 1753 /Songs Costume/ (Percy Soc.) 231 "With fringes of knotting your Dickey cabod [? cabob], On slippers of velvet, set gold a-la-daube." 1787 /Minor/ I. 99 "Of all her splendid apparel not a wreck remained..save her flannel dicky." 1800 J. Wolcot /Ld. Auckland's Triumph/ in/Wks./ (1812) IV. 311 "The hips ashamed forsooth to wear a dicky." 1847â78 J. O. Halliwell /Dict. Archaic & Provinc. Words/ /Dicky/, "a woman's under-petticoat." I would like to write to them about the lack of "dickey pot", but they will only accept additions to the dictionary if accompanied by examples of written use of the word from dated sources, (as above). So can anyone contribute any evidence that I can use in a submission? Indeed, are there other words from the history of lace making which ought to be recorded formally? Linda Walton, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where the sun has come up on my cherry trees, which are in perfect full bloom just now. The area where I live once had many cherry orchards, supplying the London market, and I planted my trees in honour of this. I was a little nervous because the old cherry orchards were wiped out by some disease, but my trees are only troubled by the birds stealing the fruit. Although I rarely enjoy any cherries, the blossom is wonderful, and reminds me of the many local lace makers of this area, (as well as the straw plaiters), who would once have looked out at delicate blossoms and drifts of floating petals. Were there any lace patterns using these flowers, I wonder? Does anyone know? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] How 'Lace Police' breed . . . & Noelene's poem
On 20/04/2015 10:54, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Will this do? Oh yes, Noelene, it certainly will ! It's absolutely brilliant, and absolutely to the point. I went to a lace day school once, after I'd been teaching myself to make lace with books and a video, and ran into the lace police. As it turned out, I was assigned to an overflow class with a very good teacher, who was able to help me to understand tensioning, something for which I've thanked her spiritually a thousand times and more. But the main class was run by a teacher who was very strict about how things should be done, and was very authoritarian in her manner. And not only did her pupils learn to make lace in this teacher's way, they also learned to be very disparaging of any other way of lacemaking, and even of learning to make lace in any other way, too. I saw thirty women being trained up to bully others: "lace police cadets". As you can guess, I've never joined another class, and I've continued to enjoy making lace in my own way and to my own satisfaction. Also, I rejoiced when I found this list, and I've loved all the messages, and websites, and videos, from all over the world, because they have given me a far broader and deeper understanding than I could ever have got in any other way. So, along with Noelene, I say - up the rebels ! Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Project complete
Congratulations on overcoming all the trials and tribulations and completing your project to your own high standard and satisfaction. Charm ? Silver threepenny bit. No, I'm not that old ! It was saved and passed down on my mother's side of the family. Each bride carried it on her day. I seem to recall it was supposed to be in your glove, but no-one wore gloves in time, so I had to search many shops to find some that would fit my long fingers. How I wish I knew the stories that coin knew. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's Indian Summer time). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Queen Victoria's wedding dress lace?
Several images of paintings and engravings as well as information here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_dress_of_Queen_Victoria - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] How many kinds of lace?
How many kinds of lace do I make? Well, the only kind of lace I make is Bucks point ground, and I like to make yardage. When I started, I learned to make torchon first, and still use that sometimes, such as for making Christmas decorations. In the past, I've done all sorts of needlework, from embroidery to dressmaking, and I've done all sorts of knitting, as well as some spinning and weaving. But since I developed arthritis most of these have been forbidden, since they put side-loads on my finger joints. However, thank goodness I took my small pillow in to show the physiotherapist at the hospital, and she approved bobbin lace, especially my bucks thumper bobbins which are easy to scoop up and hold using the whole hand rather than spangled midlands. (And - shhh! - once in a while I do a little knitting, because I do miss it so; but only little purses made with short fine wooden needles and dainty silk yarn.) It was too late for me when I discovered needle lace and tatting, such a pity. I've never got on with crochet - don't know why; it doesn't attract me at all. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where there's still some snow about and the wind is bitterly cold, but - hurray - I'm indoors). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] washing silk - salt
I think salt is something that can stop colour coming out of fibres, since most dyes, (including stains, of course), are only sparingly soluble in a salt solution. Royal Navy sailors used to wash their blue and white collars in sea-water rather than fresh water so that the colour would not run. (Dronsfield & Edmonds, "The Transition from Natural to Synthetic Dyes", page 98.) Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., rejoicing in the sunshine after so much snow, and happily researching pigments). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries TV Series
Great - one of my favourite channels: I'll look out for that. Linda On 18/01/2013 14:44, The Lace Bee wrote: Aha! In the UK on alibi in a month or so. Kind Regards Liz in a rather snowy Oxfordshire On 18 Jan 2013, at 14:32, Linda Walton wrote: Thank you - I love to have a good mystery waiting on my bedside table, and a lace theme will be the cherry on the cake! It will be a long time before the series appears on British television, I fear, but I will look out for it. Linda Walton, (snowed in already, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries TV Series
Thank you - I love to have a good mystery waiting on my bedside table, and a lace theme will be the cherry on the cake! It will be a long time before the series appears on British television, I fear, but I will look out for it. Linda Walton, (snowed in already, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). On 18/01/2013 14:13, pene piip wrote: I haven't seen any mention of this series on Arachne, though maybe Aussie Gumnuts have. One of the Estonian commercial TV stations has been showing this series, which is based on the books written by Kerry Greenwood. There are 17 books altogether plus a short story collection, which I enjoyed listening to last year. Set in 1928-29 and very well researched. Tatting is mentioned in 2 of the books & surprisingly bobbin lace in only one. But I was pleased to see Ashleigh Cumming's character Dot Williams wearing a collar edged in tatted lace in the 4th Episode, as well as a simple Torchon lace collar in Episode 5 -"Almonds and Raisins" & Episode 6 -"Ruddy Gore". I highly recommend the books. Penelope in a very cold Tartu, Estonia where it was -16 Celsius this morning. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Portrait of an Unknown Man and Woman
I've just come across this portrait, and I couldn't resist sending you all the link, so that you can enjoy the beautiful lace that the lady is wearing:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/portrait-of-an-unknown-man-and-woman-223066 (you can click on the image to get a better reproduction). Enjoy! Linda Walton, (in cool, showery High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Invention of Needle-lace in East Tyrol?
There is new evidence that needle-lace may not have begun in Italy, but further north. This link takes you to the website of the University of Innsbruck: http://www.uibk.ac.at/urgeschichte/projekte_forschung/textilien-lengberg/index.html.en It concerns finds by archaeologists, led by Harald Stadler, at the Castle Lengberg, (Municipality Nikolsdorf, East Tyrol, Austria). In July 2008 they began to investigate a filled-in vault spandrel, and notes in an itinerary by Paolo Santonino, indicate that this was done in 1485. The fill used materials such as twigs and straw, but also worked wood, leather (mainly shoes) and textile rags (old clothes). Radio-carbon dating has since proven the date of the fill. Some of the clothing rags still have needle-lace decoration. The web page suggests that the earliest needle-lace might have come not from Italy but from Germany - even East Tyrol. Lacemakers in the U.K. may have seen recent newspaper articles, writing very inaccurately about the discovery of lacy bras and panties, which are also among the Castle Lengberg finds: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2174568/Found-castle-vault-scraps-lace-lingerie-rage-500-years-ago.html I understand that these follow the publication of an article in the "BBC History" magazine for August, (I haven't yet seen it myself), by Beatrix Nutz, another of the archaeologists who has been working on the finds. If anyone is interested, I can provide some more information about these, but I don't think any lace is involved. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it didn't rain today!). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] The Laughing Cavalier' Lace
I've just come across a website showing the famous portrait, "The Laughing Cavalier": http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org:8080/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=64959 If you click on the photo a separate window opens, showing an enlargement in which you can see in detail the lace he is wearing on his cuff. It is so beautiful, and must be quite early, since the date of the picture is 1624. This means that, although it looks to me like 19th century Bedfordshire lace, it must be something else. Perhaps some sort of needlelace? Can anyone suggest what it might really have been? I'd love to know. The description of this artwork suggests that his costume is decorated with symbols of love; is it possible that the lace he is so carefully displaying to the artist also contained some similar meaning? By the way, I heard of the website because the painting forms part of an exhibition about fencing and fashion in the Renaissance, so there may be more pictures of interest to lacemakers. If anyone happens to be in London and visits the Wallace Collection, perhaps they'd tell us more about it? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we are having a little sunshine this morning, but the forecast is for even more rain. It seems that we have just survived the wettest April on record, and May is bidding fair to be similar, yet we are still officially in drought, so I suppose I shouldn't complain . . . ). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Rembrandt and lace
On 23/04/2012 00:33, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: From what I can tell, Cleveland has an excellent lace collection. [details regretfully snipped] It would be wonderful to be able to go there and see it all. Photographs from the Schiff Collection are featured throughout Ricci's book Old Italian Lace, which has been republished by Dover. The Schiff collection has a lot of laces that are identified in the book as being from the 16th and 17th centuries. I must see if I can get hold of this book; I'll ask my village librarian when I see her today. Peg, could we prevail upon you to launch a hunger strike on the steps of the Cleveland Museum in an effort to get them to put photos of all their lace on-line? Devon How about a virtual hunger strike, in exchange for virtual lace? (I'd join that one!) Do any of our clever members maintain a website which maps the various lace collections of the world, with details of what can be found there? We should pressure all of them to put photographs on-line. Best wishes for Saint George's Day, and virtual red roses to you all, from Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Rembrandt and lace
Thank you for sending this link. I have just had great pleasure, both from seeing the paintings you mentioned, and beginning to explore the wealth of other art images on the website, (which I've bookmarked for future visits). By the way, when I searched on 'lace', I noticed that there was a result for seventeenth-century bobbin lace; but no image was available, and the site kept producing an 'error' message when I tried to find out more. Have you ever seen their lace collection? It would be very interesting to know more about it. It's good to learn that your broken elbow is healing well, I've heard that it can be an exceptionally painful injury. I hope you will soon be able to make lace again. Best wishes from Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where the April showers are the lively 'flashing and banging' type yet again today). On 21/04/2012 02:34, Witchy Woman wrote: I had the pleasure of seeing the Rembrandt in America exhibit at the Cleveland Museum of Art this week. http://www.clevelandart.org/visit/exhibitions.aspx [snip] Peg in Cleveland Hts, OH - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Next Step
On 17/04/2012 01:44, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Next Step . [snip] But where there's life, there's hope! I love it! Thank you - it's made my day: definitely one to treasure. With gratitude, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we are having the classic 'April showers' weather - I'm so glad for the garden). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Sad news
On 12/04/2012 13:12, Clay Blackwell wrote: I am very sad to relay to you all that Betty Ann Rice died last night about 8:45. [ . . . ] What a great loss; I am so sorry to hear this news. Over many years, I have had the pleasure of reading her messages: all of them full of her lively enthusiasm, clear explanations, and good humour. I will miss her. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Raspberry Pi e-mail - sent in error
I do apologise about my previous e-mail: it was sent to the list by mistake. My e-mail program recognises the first letters of addresses I use regularly, and puts up a list of likely ones; unfortunately I clicked on the one above the address I meant to use. Please ignore it, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., recovering from a virus). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Raspberry Pi in action: our developer puts it through its paces - video | Technology | guardian.co.uk
In case you haven't already seen this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2012/mar/05/raspberry-pi-developer-video - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Lace trimmed shoes
When I got married, (thirty years ago this year - where did all the time go?), I needed flat shoes as I was recovering from an ankle injury. My local shoe shop took on the challenge and found me a pair of white tap shoes. The metal 'taps' were removed from the soles, the shoe laces at the front was replaced with ribbons, and they looked very good. They are not like a lace-up brogue, but are open at the front, with a little strap coming up from either side and meeting over the instep; each strap has just two little holes to thread through the ribbon tie. The upper is made from what looks like a white linen canvas, and the sole is very supportive - most comfortable. At that time I'd nver heard of lace making, it was just another factory-woven fabric to me; but now I can see all sorts of possibilities for adding lace decorations. Maybe someone else will be inspired? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's been very windy today - but then, that's March, 'in like a lion', let's hope it will soon turn into a lamb, ready for its going out). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Spencer
On 19/01/2012 09:15, Alex Stillwell wrote: Dear Arachnids I am making lace for doll's underwear and am currently working on a bodice to go with her drawers. I have been told that this article of clothing is a spencer. Is this correct? I tried Wilipedia but there is no reference. As you don't mention the historical period you have in mind, I'm afraid I've written rather a lot, but I hope it will help. In England spencer began as a jacket, worn in the 'Jane Austen' period. It was made of woven wool and at times had a very military cut. It was outerwear and distinctively waist length: for men, who wore it over their tailcoats, the natural waist; for women, to the waist on their empire-line dresses. It had long, straight sleeves, for both sexes, although their was a brief women's fashion where this was set into a puff sleeve at the top, rather than directly into the armscye. For adults, the fashion had mostly disappeared by the 1830s, but it persisted for small children much longer. It was still a garment for babies in the 1860s. The clothing of the Regency period had a free, "Rousseau-esque" basis as a reaction to the complicated, heavily stayed look of just before. The Victorian look was a pious reaction to the light muslins and "nude" look, and there were swings towards a back-to-nature ideal later on. This meant that children were released from their stays, (under which was worn a corset protector - a simple cloth bodice to protect the corset from contact with the skin, since the corset was much more difficult to launder). In 1867, a doctor was suggesting that ladies should suspend their crinolines on braces, so that the weight might be carried by the shoulders instead of the waist. He also suggested that they could leave off the corset and wear just their camisole, (stiffened if they wished), to which drawers and petticoats might be buttoned. At the same time, Mrs. Ada Ballin, editor of a magazine called "Baby" was urging more sensible clothing for children, and refers to a spencer in a way which makes it seem like the later matinee jacket of recent times. (The liberty bodice was another attempt to give children more comfortable clothes; it had buttons to fasten the fronts togerther, and others to support the drawers and on suspenders for stockings too.) May I suggest that you call the garment either a chemise or a camisole. Yes, a chemise was the name for an earlier garment, but it came back again - among the Edwardians it was a simple tube with shoulder straps which went on over - and often was decorated to match - the combinations. A camisole was similar, but went over the corset, if worn. I have had the opportunity to examine a great many Victorian garments for women and girls, and of course paid special attention to lace. There was only one item that did not have some lace on them somewhere. (Even a pair of bloomers which had belonged to a hard-working housemaid - as the wear and repairs showed - had a strip of lace at the edge of each leg.) The narrowest was a baby's vest, which had a very narrow edging at the neck. This was the only garment I've seen where the lace was mounted directly on to the fabric. All the others made a double tucks: the upper one was very narrow and the lace was sewn on to it; beneath that was a deeper tuck, about the same depth as the lace or a little deeper; it formed a sort of frill which supported the lace away from the main garment, and looked very pretty. The arrangement may also have had something to do with making it easier to take the lace off when the garment was laundered. Hoping to hear more about your fascinating project, Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., remembering my first interest in costume, which was making and dressing historical dolls, and the delight I discovered in researching what the real personages would have worn). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Film of a Nottingham Lace Factory
Like many of you, I found the photographs of the Scranton Lace Factory distressing, and wished it could have been preserved as a heritage site. To offset that, below is a link to a film showing a working lace factory. It was made in Nottingham (England) in the late 1920s, is silent and in black & white, but shows lots of people working there, and the processes. Enjoy! Linda Walton, (in chilly High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). Here is the link:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLznPSTUyQo&feature=related Here is the summary:- An excellent example of an 'industrial', a short silent film showing lace-making processes in a huge Nottingham factory with intertitles explaining the various stages of lace production. Though many of the terms will be unfamiliar to the lay viewer, it is fascinating to see the vast industrial machines producing the most delicate of lace and the teams of women finishing and mending by hand. From the design, pattern-making and punching to the final scenes of a well-to-do bride at her 'lace wedding' on a bleak, wet day in late 1920s Nottingham, this is a graphic reminder that this once great industry is as much a part of Nottingham's heritage as Robin Hood. (Laraine Porter) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Scranton Lace Company
Below is a link to a website for a television series called "Abandoned", which I'm told aired recently on the History Channel. A group of people go into abandoned buildings to salvage whatever they can. This particular episode was about the Scranton Lace Company in Pennsylvania, which was in business for 105 years and claimed to be the world's largest producer of 'Nottingham' Lace. Some of the lace machines are from the 1890s. (I regret I didn't see the programme myself, but I will be looking out for it.) Scranton Lace Company – Scranton, PA » The Digital Mirage Blog:- http://wiseminds.com/thedigitalmirage/?p=136 Note: there are a great many photographs on the web site, so it takes longer than usual to download. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's very cold with even more frost today, but at least the Sun is shining on us). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Shawl finished
While I echo everyone's comments about the lace itself, I must add that you chose beautiful colours too! Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). On 15/12/2011 12:53, Agnes Boddington wrote: Last night I finished a Torchon shawl for my daughter for Christmas. When I started it 2 moths ago, I was not sure whether it would be for Christmas 2011 or 2012, but I did it, and am quite pleased with the result. The material was a mixture of alpaca wool, silk and rayon in lace weight. Not the easiest to work with at it is very slippy and I used standard English bobbins with spangles. I have uploaded some photos on Webshots in the Arachne album. Go to : webshots; log in as Arachne 2003 and password is honiton. Back to my Chantilly practice pieces now. Agnes Boddington Elloughton UK, where we woke up to a light covering of snow this morning. - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Hello
On 14/12/2011 10:51, Agnes Boddington wrote: Yes, Daphne, I too got this, but thrashed it immediatley. Me, too. Although, as I use Thunderbird for my e-mail program, I looked at it first by View/Message Source, which confirmed my opinion that this was for the Junk folder. It does show the importance of signing your messages with your name (and where you live), so we know from whom the message has come. Agnes Boddington Elloughton UK I heartily agree! And will confirm the usual warning not to click on links in e-mails, (unless you're *very* confident about the source). It's much safer to go to your web browser and find the web page through that. This separates your computer from the address in the e-mail; if you go directly though the link in the e-mail, it can take you to a page which is a copy of the real web page and which is used as a disguise or mask by criminals. Best wishes to everyone for a safe Christmas and New Year from Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's clear and sunny, (unlike the more northern and western counties - poor things, getting gale-force snow - but jolly cold and breezy). Hello Everyone I have sent the message I now recieved this morning from someone pretending to be a lacemaker on the list. Have anyone else recieved it too? Daphne Sunny Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Photos of Reticella Lace
Here's a link to some photographs on an eBay page, where someone is selling "RARE 17THC. ITALIAN RETICELLA LACE 4 YARDS!". While I can't say anything about the lace, nor the description, I do think the images are worth a look, especially the close-ups of the work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-17THC-ITALIAN-RETICELLA-LACE-4-YARDS-/370567596864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56478ccb40 Enjoy! Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Hephaestus Books - SCAM ALERT
A friend on another list passed on a warning about these books. She was given one as a birthday present, and discovered that the books are worthless and a scam. Apparently "Hephaestus" is not so much listed as the publisher as the author - and of many, many thousands of books. These books are printed versions of material 'scraped' from free websites such as Wikipedia. Those which seem to be fiction books by famous authors are actually commentaries. Some authors have already spotted this and are trying to campaign against it, so that their readers are not misled into buying them. [More information here: http://culturewarreporters.com/tag/hephaestus-books/ ] But there are also many non-fiction titles on offer. I have checked by googling for 'Hephaestus books' and 'lace' and found some immediately on Amazon. There is not enough information to decide what the contents are, but the confused titles imply that no real human being would put these subjects together into one book, for example this book for £8.74p: "Lace, Including: Tatting, Bobbin Lace, Needle Lace, Crocheted Lace, Broomstick Lace, Cambric, Doily, Chantilly Lace, Armenian Needlelace, Filet Lace, Tonder Lace, Punto In Aria, Point De Venise, Point De France, Alencon Lace, Argentan Lace, Hollie Point" (sorry, I can't do the authentic 'o' in Tonder, nor 'c' in Alencon). Here is the 'Product Description': "Hephaestus Books represents a new publishing paradigm, allowing disparate content sources to be curated into cohesive, relevant, and informative books. To date, this content has been curated from Wikipedia articles and images under Creative Commons licensing, although as Hephaestus Books continues to increase in scope and dimension, more licensed and public domain content is being added. We believe books such as this represent a new and exciting lexicon in the sharing of human knowledge. This particular book is a collaboration focused on Lace.More info: Lace is an openwork fabric, patterned with open holes in the work, made by machine or by hand. The holes can be formed via removal of threads or cloth from a previously woven fabric, but more often open spaces are created as part of the lace fabric. Lace-making is an ancient craft. True lace was not made until the late 15th and early 16th centuries. A true lace is created when a thread is looped, twisted or braided to other threads independently from a backing fabric." Let the buyer beware! And also authors. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace classes
Ah yes, speaking of bad teaching . . . Once, long ago, I joined a class to learn Modern Greek. At the first session, the teacher listened carefully as each student introduced themselves to the group. Then she sat back, glared around the room, and said: "Thank you. Well, now I know which of you are going to fail." Her opinions came across clearly during lessons, too, as part of her heavily authoritarian approach. The lady also had her favourites, and made it quite clear who they were, which didn't encourage the rest of us. She was so unpleasant to me after I got high marks in a class competition, beating her particular pet, that I decided to stop fighting and dropped out. It has affected my willingness to join other classes, preferring to teach myself whenever possible. Despite believing myself to be rational and tough, my feelings are there too and have to be overcome every time. I'm sure no member of this very well-mannered list would even think of teaching in this way, but it might be worth considering that your students might have been damaged by a previous experience. Linda Walton, (fluent in Classical and Koine Greek, but still not able to manage 'good morning' in Modern Greek), in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's a cool, still Autumn twilight. On 28/10/2011 17:07, Clay Blackwell wrote: Ah yes This reminds me of a "teacher" I had many years ago. I was trying to make tallies, and asked her how they were done. She looked at me and said, "Well, you just DO it." Needless to say, I had to find a better teacher. C Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA Joy Beeson wrote: On 10/26/11 10:59 AM, Bob Ross wrote: There are two ladies in town with way more experience then me so I'm may just suggest the weavers contact them. You might be the better teacher, because you remember what's hard and what you did about it. We experienced workers tend to say things like "All you have to do is to frammis the wilberstan." [flutters fingers randomly, perfectly- frammised wilberstan appears] "And then you gorblach . . . " -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace display and Christmas trees
On 26/10/2011 10:18, Lynne Cumming wrote: [snip] None of the bits were ones we minded losing but nothing went. The Christmas before last, our local parish church lost not just decorations but the whole tree was stolen. It was a really large tree, too! Linda Walton, enjoying the last days of a warm and beautiful Autumn in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Tea Cosy
Recently, it occurred to me that what I need is a tea cosy, and it suddenly dawned on me that I could decorate it with some lace. But as I mostly make Bucks point ground edgings, I'm somewhat at a loss to know how to go about it. Who better to ask for advice than my Arachne friends? So here is a note about the teapot, and my limitations as a lacemaker, and I look forward to any comments you care to make. The teapot itself is a small one, holding only enough to fill the two matching cups. It is white china, decorated with a design of strawberry plants - green leaves on curling stems, white flowers with yellow centres, and plump red berries; and there are some fine gilt lines on the rim, handle, spout and lid. It seems to me that it would look awkward to have a complete dome of a tea cosy. What I see is something like a disc-shaped top, with two attached panels to cover the sides. These would be made in quilted material, maybe fastened below the handle and spout with buttons and loops or ribbon ties. The lace needed, then, would be a round piece for the top and two oblongs for the sides, mounted on the quilted pieces but smaller than them. The top would be about three and a half inches diameter, or a little less. The side pieces no more than about five inches wide and three inches deep. My own limitations are that I've only made Bucks lace edgings for years, although I did start with Torchon. It's been a long time since I made any Torchon lace, but I'd enjoy learning it again, and I think it might be more suitable for a tea cosy. I don't think I have any patterns suitable for the pieces. The circular piece might be a bonnet back, I suppose, but I've no idea how to find the panels. I've never designed any lace patterns - and don't want to start now! Does anyone have any good ideas? I'm really excited about this project and I'm longing to get going, but don't know where to start. Awaiting your replies with interest, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where high Summer makes us grateful for the shady beech hangers). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Wearing Lace
Yes - I wear some of the lace I make, but I don't flaunt it. The kind of lace I like to make is edgings, and I use them to decorate my lingerie, especially nightdresses. Mostly, I prefer to wear long, loose white nightdresses made of pure cotton, and these give plenty of opportunity to use edgings. Since I saw a collection of Victorian garments, where all the lace was supported on two tucks, I've taken to doing the same thing. You use a tiny tuck to which the lace is stitched, and make another tuck underneath which carries the lace. Since the deep tuck is made to be just slightly longer than the lace, I think it also protects the picots in particular, as well as lifting and displaying it. Of course they have to be washed frequently, but I find that they survive well on my washing machine's 'delicate' setting. In fact, the lace survives better than the fabric, and I've detached it and used it on new nightdresses when old ones have worn out. Alright, that wouldn't be the way to treat an heirloom, but there's no-one to inherit it, and I feel I might as well enjoy the fruits of my own handiwork. Oh, and my husband enjoys seeing it, too! Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's a perfect Summer morning, and I'm planning a picnic tea. I know a beautiful little clearing in our nearby beech woods, just the spot to make some lace.) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] LaceNews Channel on YouTube
Lovely! Thank you for all your hard work in organising this. It will be most helpful, now that you've made it so easy to find these videos. I've already spent some time watching in amazement; it's all so fascinating - I never knew there were so many differences. To be able to see all these things makes such an enormous difference, and helps me understand things that could never fully be explained in words. Many thanks for being so generous with your time and talents. Lorelei - I agree completely with your comments! But one question: as I'm very ignorant about YouTube, could you tell me why there is the option to "Subscribe"? I seem to be able to watch without doing that. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where I have a feeling the sun might yet break through the clouds this morning, but the roses are lovely whether it does or not). On 10/07/2011 05:36, Laurie Waters wrote: So I signed up for YouTube with LaceNews, and suddenly I have a YouTube channel! They call it "Lacenews's Channel" (hopefully I can adjust that title a bit, still learning how this works). I've been searching YouTube for every lace-related video I can find, and organizing them into playlists on the new channel. I've also got a few old films that need to be converted to digital that I will be downloading in the future. The address is: http://www.youtube.com/user/lacenews I have no clue how well this is going to work, but take a look, comments very welcome. Thanks! Laurie http://lacenews.net - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Music and Lace
On 09/07/2011 02:54, Brian Lemin wrote: I think lace was very much in vogue during the Baroque and early Romantic periods of music. Most of the paintings I see of the composers and some performers had some form of lace embellishment. [snip] I remember a professional pianist telling me that he had trouble playing the music of that period until someone explained to him that part of the style came from the way you had to hold your hands in order to keep those cuff flounces (name?) out of the way. Linda Walton, (in cool, showery High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Blog about Hapsburg veil
On 26/06/2011 22:07, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Dear Karen, Liz, and all, I agree. If you have 'the long version' of your research available, I'm sure we'd all love to read it. We are NOT the average audience, where the details would go over our heads, we understand the terminology, and furthermore, we are interested in it all. Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, US, where it's been another lovely day, comfortable, 78F 23C, at 5 p.m., no rain, I'm off to the deck to make lace in the pretty view. Liz Redford wrote: Karen, That is a very interesting blog post. Is there any place we can read the longer version? [snip] I agree - yes, please. Pretty please? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Chip carving... bobbins - And starry cover cloth.
On 15/06/2011 03:29, laura forrester wrote: I turn my own bobbins and make my own glass beads too. The latest pics of my current Bucks Point piece on my blog contains all my own bobbins and around half the spangles are made from my handmade beads. I took an updated pic yesterday, and will upload it in a few minutes. [snip] Laura, I had a look at the photo on your blog: http://lauraslace.blogspot.com/ Goodness - how very pretty! And how very clever and enterprising; you must have worked very hard to produce all those bobbins. But what really intrigues me is that starry cover cloth. For myself, I can only work with a very plain and neutral cloth as I find anything else confuses me. However, I believe some people use a patterned cloth - maybe gingham? - as a means to working their lace. Do you find that the pattern helps you, or does it just stimulate rather than distract you? I'm willing to try anything that would help me make better lace. Best wishes from Linda Walton, (in cool, damp High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Catalogue of 16th and 17th Century Portraits
On 12/06/2011 12:49, Cherry Knobloch wrote: If you want to spend HOURS looking at artwork, go to http://www.masterart.com/ [snip] Cherry Knobloch Chesapeake, Va USA Wow! Thank you very much for this: not only have I just spent hours enjoying the art and lace, but I've also found three new items of fifteenth century sculpture for my history project. Yours delightedly, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we're enjoying lots of really wetting rain at last). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Catalogue of 16th and 17th Century Portraits
A friend has sent me this link:- http://www.weissgallery.com/catalogue/weiss25years.htm It will take you to the on-line catalogue of the Weiss Gallery in London, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary with a remarkable exhibition. Portraits from the 16th and 17th centuries are their specilaism, and this catalogue has beautiful photographs of many remarkable persons. Not only can you study it on-line, but you can also download it as a pdf without any charge. Of course, all the people are wearing their best clothes, including some amazing lace. You can zoom in on the photographs, (some of which are close-ups themselves). Perhaps the experts on this list will even be able to say something about the kinds of lace and how it was made? Personally, I just admire it all. But I'm very intrigued to see how the lace was worn: caps, collars, cuffs, even lace on shoes. And I'm particularly interested to see all the lace on the children's clothes. (Evidently children were much better behaved in those days . . . !) I hope you will enjoy it as much as I've been doing for the past hour, Linda Walton, (on a cool and gloomy evening in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we're still hoping for rain). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: pins and thorns
On 24/05/2011 06:57, Alex Stillwell wrote: Hi Linda This was sparked of by someone coming out with the old wives tale of lacemaker using thorns and fishbones for pins and I was asking if there was any evidence. Obviously thorns have been used in Brazil, but not for the very very fine early lace. No one has managed to give any evidence of any thorns being suffuciently fine for that. Happy lacemaing Alex Thank you, Alex, for your very neat summary of the situation. I'm very curious to know how this "old wives' tale" first arose. It would be interesting if we could track down the first time the alternative pins were mentioned. "Old wives' tales" can be most intriguing clues: some I've known have turned out to be good information, unreasonably dismissed by someone supporting an alternative theory. (Alright, doctors!) Others have been the purest invention, wishful thinking, romantic story-telling. But occasionally you can discover an intriguing clue, which has been the result of a misunderstanding. To get this tale by the tail, (sorry, couldn't resist that), we first need to find the earliest mentions of it, then we can understand the context, and the exact way in which the words were used. I still think there may be more to this than meets the eye . . . Linda Walton, (pondering in a cool and breezy High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] pins and thorns
On 21/05/2011 22:57, Alex Stillwell wrote: [snip] I think we have had plenty of evidence that thorns have been used as subsitutes for pins [snip] Sorry - I think I must have missed a bit among all these fascinating messages: so what was the original evidence for the kinds of things used where we would use metal pins? Where are they documented, please? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., - hiding from yet another day of strong winds). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Early brass pins
A friend sent me this link to the website of the newly-founded School of Historical Dress in London http://theschoolofhistoricaldress.org.uk/ and I thought you might like to see it because at the top there is a close-up photograph of some late sixteenth century loose-headed brass pins. I wonder if these were the kind of pins used by lace makers of the time? Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] BBC News - Royal wedding: How the lace of the dress was crafted
Here's a brief video with more details:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13249682 Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where I can't believe we're already at the end of April: White Rabbits, everyone!). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] That Dress - the Veil
Here's a link to an article about Catherine's wedding finery: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13236617 It mentions that, "The veil is made of layers of soft, ivory silk tulle with a trim of hand-embroidered flowers". Sorry - not lace after all. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., having had a lovely day). On 29/04/2011 14:36, David C COLLYER wrote: Dear Friends, I loved the refined elegance of Kate's wedding dress. The commentators told us that the bodice was Chantilly, as indeed it was, but I was trying to see what kind of lace trimmed the veil. Can anyone tell? Thanks David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] The Manor House Museum in Bury St. Edmunds (was: Inventory???)
On 16/04/2011 15:29, Alan & Sheila Brown wrote: [snip] The list is endless of the extras we collect. A nightmare when we came to downsize yet again to a much smaller house. My solution was to give most of my antique laces to The Manor House Museum in Bury St. Edmunds together with books on history and identification. This way they have become available to other lacemakers and not just me. Sheila in Sawbo' where it has turned colder and grey. What a generous solution to this problem! And I was eager to visit Bury St. Edmunds and see the laces, until a web search discovered that the museum had closed in 2007. There is a brief video of a sample of the collections, http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/video67970-.html which was exquisitely lovely, and including what appears to be at least one piece of lace. Do you know what has happened since? Linda Walton, (recovering from some sort of 'flu thing in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it is a still afternoon with cool air and hazy sunshine - very peaceful). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Foundling expo
On 22/03/2011 20:02, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: [snip] > And I had no idea why the Messiah was performed there. To raise funds for their support - "Composed in London during the summer of 1741 and premiered in Dublin, Ireland on 13 April 1742, it was repeatedly revised by Handel, reaching its most familiar version in the performance to benefit the Foundling Hospital in 1754." from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_%28Handel%29 Handel donated the copyright to them I think, too. Linda Walton, (remembering a happy time singing Messiah, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Kitty Mason, MBE
On 31/12/2010 13:09, Jane Partridge wrote: I think we should all congratulate Kitty Mason who has been awarded an MBE in the New Year's Honours List for "Services to Lace Making". [snip] This is brilliant news - I'm so pleased at this recognition. Is it a first? (That is, that someone has received an honour for something to do with lace - making it, teaching it, whatever.) A very happy new year to everyone, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. where we've just noticed that the airliners lining up to land at Heathrow have been recognising the New Year by flying with their landing lights on - more than a dozen orange fireflies drifting through the night sky!). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Lace fans
On 31/12/2010 19:19, J-D Hammett wrote: [snip] Thank you for this suggestion:- Now and again there are good antique lace fans on eBay. [snip] That's a very good idea! I'll see if I can work out how the eBay site works and search for fans - I'd love to see them. With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Fans
On 31/12/2010 15:32, Ilske Thomsen wrote: [snip] Hello Ilske, and thank you very much for writing. since more than 300 years exist lace-fans, bobbin- as well as needle-lace, > all folded correctly. I had not realised that fans could be so old; I imagined that they were a fashion of the mid-Victorian period. (At least, the western - Spanish? - type of fan, rather than the eastern - Chinese? Japanese? - type. If these were actually different, that is.) > Have you never seen a > lace-fan in origin how fine, for example, the Chantilly-lace is? No, sadly I've never seen any real lace fans, and had not even paid attention to photographs, until I saw those in the album shown in the link that Lorelei sent: http://picasaweb.google.com/samag5180/MisTrabajos03#5359529389873792754 > Why do you get the impression it wouldn't do? A good question . . . It's probably something to do with the kind of lace I make myself. My Bucks lace is made with linen thread, which is relatively thick and stiff, giving a lovely crisp lace, but which might be hard to fold, hard to fit between the sticks, and hard to unfold, (especially with that sudden snap which is one of the joys of being able to express yourself by your use of a fan). It also has gimps which I thought might suffer by being compressed when folded, pulled out of shape where they went over the sticks, and frayed by opening and closing the fan. Perhaps you could write about your experience with other kinds of lace and types of thread? If you have the chance to come to Germany in summertime try to visit Munich. Regretably, I think that it is very unlikely that I would ever be able to visit Munich again. These days, I find it hard to get so far as the local shops and the library, without a lot of help. There will be a fan exhibition and I am sure with lace-fans too This museum has wonderful ones. And I regret even more that I did not take the opportunity to see the museum when I was there - but it was a long time ago, before I knew anything at all about making lace. Does it have a website? Or visit me and I'll show you mine. Thank you for your kind invitation - I wish that I could! With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Fans
On 31/12/2010 15:25, Sue wrote: If you go to the fan museum in Greenwich London when they are displaying the lace fans (you will have to check with them as they are not always on display) you will see plenty of lovely lace fans that were actually made to be used. Unlike mine that sit in tissue paper in a box. I highly recommend this museum at any time but when the lace fans are out it is spectacular. Thank you very much for writing, Sue. I would like to see this museum: I love lace and I love visiting museums, so this is a winner! But I don't find it so easy to get out these days, so I 'googled' to find the museum's website: http://www.fan-museum.org/ I looked at some of the pages quickly, (and I will certainly spend some time reading the information), but I couldn't see any images of early fans made with lace. Although I must admit that the painted ones are very beautiful indeed. Does anyone know of any images on-line of antique lace fans? It would be interesting to see if there differences in their design. With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Fans
On 31/12/2010 15:03, lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote: Linda, I have two very inexpensive fans with machine made lace on them. They both fold and unfold very smoothly and easily. In fact they both have much smoother actions than some of the paper fans that I have. Both were purchased for me by friends on trips to Mexico. I should probably also mention that they were purchased in the 1970's. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA Linda Walton wrote: So I wondered, is it possible for a lace fan to be useful too? Especially, could it fold and unfold. Thank you very much for writing, Liz. It is most interesting that the lace fans should operate better than paper fans, and that they should have done so over a long working life. I did not know that this was possible. In fact, (if I'd given any thought to it), I'd have imagined that the lace would be too delicate to stand up to so much. With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Fans
On 31/12/2010 10:26, laura forrester wrote: [snip] John Beswick of Torchon House makes beautiful fan sticks using the lace (or scan thereof) as a pattern. He always asks if you want your fan to fold or remain open for display, and will work out the fold pattern from your lace scan. He also incorporates the lace design into the sticks where possible. [snip] Thank you very much for writing, Laura. I'm most interested to see that the fold pattern is not necessarily part of the original design, but can be worked out later. I suppose that it must be partly to do with how many sticks would look best with the pattern, or perhaps how many would be needed to support the lace properly. But is that "where possible" the give-away? Are fan patterns created sometimes with the intention that they should fold and sometimes that they should not? And, if a pattern is designed so that it could be folded, is it part of the idea that it should look good with folds, or that it should fold completely and be used? Of course, I imagine that all these are possible! So how would you know, when choosing, which one you were going to get? Is there some way to tell, if the pattern does not come with a description? With best wishes, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Fans
A few days ago, Lorelei sent the message, (below), giving a link to some pictures of a beautiful album of lace pieces - and thank you, Lorelei, for such a delightful gift. As it happens, I've never before paid any attention to lace fans, so it came as a surprise to me to see the several fans there. It had never before occurred to me that the fan sticks were simply a way to display a piece of lace of a particular shape. That's because I'd always thought of fans as meant to be useful as well as decorative. All the ones I have myself are simple souvenirs, and more useful than otherwise. They are not lace but paper, (or some such, I think), and I keep one in my handbag in hot weather. So I wondered, is it possible for a lace fan to be useful too? Especially, could it fold and unfold - lace is thicker than paper and might not go tightly around the corners of the sticks. Would folding damage the lace? Were lace fans ever made that were intended to be opened and closed in use? Linda Walton, (in dark, damp High Wycombe, Buskinghamshire, U.K., but where it's warmer than of late, the snow is almost all thawed, and the fog has gone - can Spring be far behind? I wish A Happy New Year, full of interesting possibilities, to everyone). On 26/12/2010 23:53, Lorelei Halley wrote: Here is areally nice Milanese fan. The same lacemaker has a lot of nice pieces in the same album. http://picasaweb.google.com/samag5180/MisTrabajos03#5359529389873792754 For all our arachneans I wish a new year full of long, bright lacemaking days, and may your threads never break. Lorelei - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: Edwardian Farm
If all else fails, you could try buying the dvd of the programmes!
Here is more information about it, (from Amazon UK, but I expect there
are many other sources, both for buying and for Region):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0045ZIY90/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0279RYWWSYB0CFXRVSXX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=219600407&pf_rd_i=468294
There is also a book to supplement the information shown in the series:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edwardian-Farm-Ruth-Goodman/dp/1862058857/ref=pd_bxgy_d_h__img_b
While the book is already available, the dvd will not be released until
February 14th, 2011; when it finishes airing on television, I suppose.
A Valentine's Day gift, perhaps?
I have purchased the dvd recordings and the books for their some of
their earlier series, ("Victorian Farm", "Tales of the Green Valley"
showing seventeenth century farming), and I have been overjoyed with the
quality of them all.
Since the participants are professional historians and archaeologists,
the research has always been of a very high standard. Also, their good
nature, and their enthusiasm for discovering what can be learnt by
trying the experiences, is delightful. That is especially so by
contrast with similar series which seem to concentrate on being amused
by the mistakes and sufferings people who know nothing about the period,
and who seem especially chosen to generate conflicts - "Big Brother in
Fancy Dress", as it were, if not a huge practical joke.
One final point, most dvd recordings of such series usually have extra
material, which perhaps was edited out of the programmes, and which can
be particularly interesting.
Linda Walton,
in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
(where it's jolly cold, but not very snowy).
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Re: [lace] Edwardian Farm
Sue wrote: I watched Edwardian Farm on BBC 2 this evening at 8pm, at the end of the programme they gave a trailer of next weeks episode and one of the items was lacemaking, hope you will be watching. I'll certainly be watching - I love all their series, but I haven't yet watched last night's, or seen the trailer. But there's a little piece about this programme in next week's "Radio Times" (page 94), where it includes this:- "Ruth, meanwhile, tries her hand at a much more ladylike way to earn money: lace-making. But it turns out to be much trickier than the resourceful historian had imagined." [note - "more ladylike" is in contrast to Peter and Alex attempting to supplement their income by copper mining.] I wonder what sort of lace Ruth will try? Linda Walton, (in cold, breezy - but not particularly snowy - High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, where we are a lot better off than the rest of the country, I hear). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Lace Guild web site and Advent calendar
Jean Nathan wrote: [snip] We've now got two Advent calendars to keep us busy - thanks to Brenda for hers as well. Hurray! Two to play with - and both beautiful: thank you. Linda Walton. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: [bobbinlace] Advent calendar
Me too! And even though I'm no good at competitions - Hurray! Linda Walton Sister Claire wrote: Hurray! I look forward to your Advent calendar every year. =) Sr. Claire On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 13:46, Brenda Paternoster < paternos...@appleshack.com> wrote: Christmas is fast approaching and time for my Advent Calendar again. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] my new needlelace
Wow!Thank you for sharing you picture. I never knew needlelace could be like that - so exciting! And it looks such fun to do, too . . . I wonder if I could try it? Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where the beech woods of "Leafy Bucks" are changing to their Autumn colours, but the weather is still mild: the time I love best). Lorelei Halley wrote: Hello Last night I finished my newest needle lace piece, The Sun. I posted it here: http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/needlelace-ndl7?context=latest Click on the image to see a larger version with all the detail. Lorelei Halley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] horrible ad music
Yes - that sort of thing is appalling. To avoid it, I keep my computer's volume control muted all the time, except for those rare occasions when I definitely want to listen to something. I discovered the blessings of silence as a "side-effect" of having it muted when I was working in libraries and archives; now I don't even have to put up with those silly little dings and dongs when my computer is collecting mail or closing down, or (most infuriating of all!) thinks I've made a mistake. I don't know how your screen is laid out, but mine has a little picture of a loud-speaker among the icons in the lower left-hand corner. If I double-click on that, then the noise options come up and I select/deselect 'mute all': job done. Wishing you peace - Linda Walton, (from the quiet suburbs of High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). Sue wrote: I went on Arachne webshots to look at the fans but I was deafened by the horrible loud ad music attached which was very offputting, is this something new? And can anybody tell me how to get rid of it I tried with no success and had to give up looking at the new additions because it made me want to SCREAM. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Books on Irish Laces
While following up another subject entirely, I discovered that a small local book publisher has several books on Irish laces in their catalogue. As their website does not have separate addresses for each of their pages, you will need to go to http://www.colinsmythe.co.uk/ and look down to the foot of the page, where you can click on "Lace and Embroidery", which will take you to a list of books. Clicking on the image of a book cover will take you to lots of details about the books themselves. The first two of the books were originally published by Dolmen Press, and are now made available again. There are:- "Mountmellick Work, Irish White Embroidery" by Jane Houston Almqvist "Carrickmacross Lace" by Nellie O’Cléirigh "Limerick Lace: A Social History and a Maker's Manual by Nellie ó Cléirigh and Veronica Rowe Disclaimer: I don't know these books, haven't boought from this company, and have no connection with them - but I do know that they have a very good reputation locally, and have been recommended to me by someone who knows them personally and whose judgement I trust. Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Young people making lace (was Fibre familiarity)
In England there is another source of education in making lace: Girl Guides can earn a badge by making a piece of lace. However, I have no idea how many take up this opportunity, nor whether numbers are higher or lower than they used to be. I discovered this to my own amazement. Something like fifteen or twenty years ago, High Wycombe opened an Arts Centre close to my home, and a group for lace makers started up. I took along my pillow and met some other ladies. We were not a class, just there for companionship, but one of the members was also a teacher and she worked with local Girl Guides. (Her grandmother had been a local lace maker - one who was still able to sell her lace - and she still used her grandmother's pillow horse. Although a Buckinghamshire lace maker, the patterns she bequeathed were more typical of Bedfordshire lace.) I have checked the website listing Girl Guide badges (U.K.) http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/guides/gfibadge/badges/craft.html but it does not give any indication of numbers working for this badge, or earning it in any given year. However, it is possible that there are some, and these young ladies would not appear on any class register in the usual Adult Education system. And, of course, there is no way of knowing whether they go on with it in later life. There is a call for people to volunteer to help Guides, whatever their skills and however little time they have; this does not seem to be the same as being a leader or organiser, just to help individuals earn a particular badge. http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/get_involved/volunteer.aspx This might be attractive to some of you who like to teach. To answer other questions, I am myself largely self-taught, using the Raie Clare book and video, and have only ever been to one class in my life, (a 'Saturday School' which I did not enjoy). When I decided to learn, it was because I was inspired by another lady, a member of our local Women's Institute. It was the beauty and history of the pillow that attracted me. Come to think of it - The W.I. used to run a good many courses in making lace; and not all the members are elderly, we had at least one teenager, and several young women during my own membership. Linda Walton, (in wet and windy but warm High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Books on demand
Lorri Ferguson wrote: We have one of these machines in the Pacific Northwest of Washington State. When it began it was noted in a newspaper article that it was only 1 of 4 in the world, that was last year. Do you know how many you might have in the UK. Sorry - I've no idea. Blackwell's in Oxford is my local bookshop, and I also buy through Amazon in the U.K. and - as both sellers supply these specially printed books - I assumed that others would too. This assumption is supported only by vague memories of conversations with others who'd also bought such books. Some years ago, when I sang in a local choir, our sheet music was occasionally obtained in a similar way. Also, I understand that the self-publishing phenomenon - this is a service for amateur authors - is mushrooming, and uses similar machines. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's been a beautiful Summer day: the Sun shining down on the beech woods across the valley has made the new green leaves seem to shimmer. I wonder if that could be an idea for a lace pattern, using shades of green silk thread? Unfortunately I'm not experienced enough to be able to design). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Books on demand
Here's an explanation:- http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/jsp/editorial/browse/espresso.jsp It's about Blackwell's " The Espresso Book Machine", but I believe other booksellers have the same arrangements; I've had some through Amazon. Linda Walton. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] books on demand?
hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hello All! While standing in line at Barnes & Noble, I overheard a conversation regarding "books on demand". [snip] This has worked really well for some textbooks I've wanted. I've bought at least three on this scheme, (probably more, can't remember). The price can be a lot cheaper "new" than secondhand for books that are in demand. Of course, they are also clean and fresh - no folded corners, no notes in the margin, no highlighted sections. The only complaint I've had was one book that was only ever available in hardback: I got the hardback book, but not the outer paper cover that had a beautiful illustration, which I really wanted as well. Linda Walton, (in summery High Wycombe). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Pricking material
When I want to use a pattern, I take my book to our local copy shop. There, I can choose from a huge range of colours - so I take my thread along to try against the paper. It's amazing how shades of white can blend into something like pale blue. Also, you can find a shade that is going to be kind to your eyes, as well as being agreeable with your pillow covering. Once I have a satisfactory copy, (or copies if I'm going to want to keep joining pieces of pattern for a long piece of edging lace), I cut out the pieces. Then the kind lady in the shop puts them through her machine which laminates them. Although the plastic coating is very thin, it is enough to make the paper sturdy enough to use, yet still being very easy to prick - even for my arthritic fingers, and has all the working lines. Also, of course, it seals in the copier ink. Since it is a photocopy, there are no mistakes. Coloured paper saves you having to find coloured film, and there is none of the work of covering the pattern with the film and sticking it down: with my clumsy fingers, that has always been a challenge. I have used this method for several different sorts of lace for many years, including several yards of a narrow edging made on the roller of a travel pillow.These patterns are quite easy to wrap around even a roller of narrow diameter and with no distortion. All my patterns are still as good as new, and ready for further use. Being thin they are also very easy to store in those double-sided plastic envelope pages that fit into a ring binder, along with a spare copy of the pattern and notes of the source, any changes I made, problems, and so on. With all these benefits, I haven't felt the need to use pricking card for many years, even though I still have a store of it. There is the point that I'm lucky in having a helpful copy shop nearby, but these days I understand that many computer printers will also work as photocopiers, and that small lamination machines can be bought quite cheaply in the sales. While I'm not personally 're-purposing' my cereal boxes, I do send them to the recycling centre so they are re-used. Hoping this is helpful, Linda Walton, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it is cold and gloomy, with rain and a blustery wind - but then it is the Spring Bank Holiday weekend, so what else could we expect! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Chicago
It's a welcome delight to hear from you again! Looking forward to hearing more, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). Sulochona wrote: Hello, again, to my Lace Friends, I have not been on the arachne mailing list for some time . . . [snip] Sulochona formally in Ranchi, Jharkhand, India relocated to Kolkata, West Bengal, India presently in West Pratt Boulavard, Chicago, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] [Fwd: Re: Unidenitified object]
Sorry - writing late last night I seem to have sent the message with this heading to the wrong list.Linda. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Unidenitified object
Thank you to everyone who offered solutions to the use of this mystery object:- (message sent 6th April) Original Message This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene I passed on the information you offered, and received this reply:- Original Message The mystery has been solved if you want to pass it along. It's a half-hoop for embroidering handkerchief edges. --Charlene Personally, I have my doubts about that, and prefer the opinion that it is a clasp for a fabric-covered bag. (Indeed, I think I've seen one made into a bag to hold knitting.) But then perhaps the best tools are the ones that have as many ways to be useful as possible. Thank you again, on behalf of both Charlene and myself, Linda Walton, (happy to be in a warm house in dark, cold High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Harriet Tubman shawl
Thank you very much for this information. Clearly, shawls were worn regularly for a lot longer than I'd imagined. Linda. dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: The first photo which shows a very plain black shawl is dated circa 1885. The Diamond Jubilee, on which the shawl was presented by Queen Victoria was in 1897. The white shawl or blanket, appears to be a simple garter stitch knitted affair which does not resemble the shawl donated to the Smithsonian at all. Yes, she was a remarkable woman, which is probably why there is so much more interest in her accomplishments than her shawls. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Harriet Tubman shawl
As I'd never heard of Harriet Tubman before this thread, I looked her up on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman and noticed two photographs of her. In the first she seems to be wearing a black shawl, and in another a white shawl. Is it possible that these are the very shawls in question? What an admirable woman - I'm so glad I've learned about her now. Thank you. Linda Walton, (on a cool, wet, blustery May Eve in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] gold plated pins!
Julie Enevoldsen wrote: I wouldn't pay for gold-plated pins. But I would definitely pay for very very fine long pins. I loved the ones Holly used to sell--the discontinued Mechlin pins. Foolishly, I didn't buy enough when she had them. I suggest instead of fussing with the gold plating they focus on making good, strong, VERY fine pins in a couple of lengths. --Julie in Seattle j.enevold...@wlonk.com weft.wlonk.com Yes! Definitely - I think so too. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's been another fine, sunny day, and I've got all my washing dry outdoors!). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace Exhibition at Marlow in Buckinghamshire, U.K.
Sue wrote: I looked at the site and clicked on where it says Items on loan from Pamela Nottingham thinking that I was going to get a sneak pre-view and all I got was adverts for people wanting to "LOAN" me money, bit strange for a museum advert don't you think? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Sorry Sue - don't know how that happened. 'Just lucky, I guess!' Nothing happens when I click the words "items on loan from Pamela Nottingham" in my email, nor in the newspaper article. But local papers like ours are full of opportunities to make the slightest mistake and get an advertisement. And it must be admitted that they make their money to keep running by supporting advertising, especially if you've read it on-line rather than buying a hard copy. However, the article was a report by a journalist, not an advertisement by the museum. As far as I can tell, the museum's own website is pristine. Best wishes from Linda Walton in sunny High Wycombe, (Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace Exhibition at Marlow in Buckinghamshire, U.K.
There is to be an exhibition of lace at the new museum in Marlow in Buckinghamshire, (U.K.). http://www.marlowmuseum.org/ Here is a link to the article in our local newspaper, The Bucks Free Press, which has just announced it:- http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/5034420.Marlow_Museum_prepares_for_latest_exhibition/ and here is some of the information from the article:- " The latest exhibition will be about lace. Marlow became known for producing the material in the 1600s and became the hub of the industry. Lace – A Marlow Cottage Industry will be running from March 27 with exhibits on loan from Pamela Nottingham MBE, a world authority on the subject." Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where - whisper it - it might be going to be Spring). "Summer opening hours resume from Saturday March 6. From this date visitors are welcome from 1 pm - 5 pm, on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank Holidays this year. Private viewings for school groups are available." Contact John Evans 06128 471884 evansj...@talk21.com. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] shawl complete
Dear Edith, thank you for sharing your pictures. Your shawl is exquisite. Where did you learn how to do it? And what sort of yarn and needles did you use? I've long been interested in doing something like that, but wouldn't know where to start. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's snowing again and beginning to stick - not just the 'rain or sleet' of the forecast.) Edith Holmes wrote: I've put some pictures of my finished Shetland Lace shawl on the website http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Edith North Nottinghamshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Old lace books for sale
Recently, someone - but I'm afraid I've deleted the message, so just 'someone' - mentioned buying lace books at an Oxfam bookshop. For those people who can't get to (was it?) Canterbury, here's some information about Oxfam's on-line bookshop. This is a great way to find those books which are long out of print, or a place to donate books in the knowledge that they will go to new loving owner, and do some good for charity along the way. I can recommend it myself, because I've bought books through it, and it was completely satisfactory. I couldn't seem to make the web page address for the actual book section be a stable link, so I'll set out how to find it by clicking your way from the front page. If you go to http://www.oxfam.org.uk/shop/ you will reach Oxfam's main wite, with there all sorts of things to buy. You will see a row of boxes across this page, and you click on the first one, a blue one, for 'second-hand store', which takes you to a page with all sorts of goods, as well as a link for their special antiquarian and collectable books. But if you move to the right, you will see a link saying 'Second-hand Store' which has a list below it - 'clothes', 'music', etc. and at the end of the list, 'Books'. This is the one to click to find their main book shop page. At the top of the page is a 'search' box, and when I put in 'lace' just now, I got about twenty books, most of which look very desirable. They ranged from £3.99p to £65.00p, include torchon, needlelace and lace knitting. There are also treasures like Santina Levey's "Lace - a History" and Ernest Lefebure's "Embroidery and Lace - Their Manufacture and History" translated by Alan Cole. Click on any book that interests you, and you will get a lot more information and photographs. You can buy on-line and they will post books to you. The usual disclaimer - I've no connection with Oxfam, except as a satisfied customer. Linda Walton,(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Dye in thread
Alex, thank you for mentioning your problems with green thread. The only time I've had trouble with breaking thread, it was also green. Cotton, I think, and not particularly fine; but can't remember any more about it as it was a long time ago. Most of the time I use linen thread - white, although in the softer shades rather than the dazzling whites - but this time I had chosen the thread to match some hand-made beads I wanted to use. So I was most disappointed in this thread. It broke very easily, mostly before I'd even got the bobbins wound. I wondered if it had been left in the sun, which I've heard can weaken thread, and pulled off quite a lot from the reel, but even the inside layers broke easily. Then I wondered if it was the dye. Eventually a friend, who uses natural dyeing methods, dyed some linen thread to match the beads for me, and it worked up with no trouble at all. This was something like ten years ago, and the lace is still strong and healthy, as far as I can tell. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it has been sunny lately, but is getting cold and windy now, and we're promised more snow next week, especially next weekend.) Alex Stillwell wrote: Actually... I think it's a chemical used to dye the thread. I've had 'dentical-same problem with the same colour/shade in two other "lines" - -- one other cotton and one linen. I am sure the 'dye' is the culprit. I was given a set of white tea towels with coloured stripes, two of each colour. Within a few years the green stripes were disintegrating; all the other have lasted many more years. Happy lacemking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Orts and Clews
I can't resist words, so I looked up these two in the Oxford English Dictionary, and this is what I found. Ort Although the word is thought to derive from Anglo-Saxon, and there is a clear explanation from about 1325 that 'ort' means leftover cattle fodder, the first reference to ort as fibre comes in 2000, "in 'Piecework' May-June 5/1 'Thread ends are sometimes called ‘orts’, a term that originally referred to food scraps left over after a meal' ". (I'm sure I have heard the term used to refer to the yarn left on the loom when the weaving has been cut off, but there is no mention of that, and it may be just as recent.) Clew Likewise, this word comes from an Anglo-Saxon original, and it always seems to have meant rolled into a ball: not just of yarn, but a ball of anything - fire, a silkworm cocoon, a sleeping animal, an argument. And the 'clew' of thread which Theseus used to find his way through the labyrinth has actually led to the use of the word 'clue' such as leads a detective to the solution of a crime. Just a thought about fibre for the birds - the thread we use has been spun to make it strong, so it could easily become a trap for wildlife, while fleece and thistledown will pull apart easily. But wool is better than down, because wool has the property of still being able to retain heat and so keep you warm even when it is wet. Do remember this when choosing your next winter coat or sweater! Linda Walton, (in cold, wet High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., but it's not so cold as it was, and it's rain not snow, and - best of all - January is nearly over: only February to go, then the worst of the year is past - hurray!) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] photos
Delightful! Thank you, from Linda Walton Alix & Antoine Hengen wrote: I opened a photo-album with a few of my laces http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/576389899ciMgTX and hope you will like them. Alix from Luxembourg. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace Christmas Tree
Here is a link to a website showing the making of a Christmas tree, all constructed out of lace:- http://www.os-primosten.skole.hr/upload/os-primosten/images/static3/1244/attachment/2009_BOR.pdf (Be aware that it is a pdf file, so may take a little time to download.) It was shared by a friend on a different list, who says that "Christmas tree stands in primary school in Primosten, Croatia, place where local tradition of lace making exists." Unfortunately the text is not in English, but the photos tell the whole story very well. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where we still have lots of snow. All the paths have at least six inches of frozen snow, (we have had no post or milk delivered since Thursday), and I dare not go out - but it's a great reason to stay at home in the warm with a lace pillow.) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Coats cotton 80 in UK
Hello Lace Makers, does anyone know where I can buy Coats cotton 80? I'd prefer to find a supplier in the U.K., but I'm prepared to buy wherever I can. My local needlework shop has a display stand with a space labelled for it, but have tried to order it for me in vain. This is the first time this wonderful shop have ever failed me. Even the national chain, 'John Lewis' can't get it. I've also exchanged emails with the manufacturer, but they were not helpful: they didn't say that they'd stopped producing it, but they didn't seem interested in selling to me either. (How do they expect to stay in business! Is this part of a more general problem, or am I just unlucky?) Perhaps a lace supplier has some? Or maybe a lace maker has half a bobbin that they no longer need? Yours sincerely, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it feels like Autumn, but the leaves are still green and clinging to the branches of the beech trees which gave our county its name). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Thread - help, please?
Dear Lacemakers, I've been away from lacemaking for more than three years - getting in some part-time education meant giving up all but the most vital daily activities. (I think I've always managed to clean my teeth and provide clean shirts for my husband: every other thing has been missed at least once!) Now at last I'm trying to start making lace again, and I thought I'd go back to a favourite of mine, a torchon book-mark. It's simple, one of the first patterns I learned, and I know I've made quite a few over the years for gifts, sales-of-work, and so on. But now I can't work out what the thread is supposed to be, and I can't see anything in my box of thread which seems to be right. So I'm hoping that someone out there will recognise what is meant in the pattern, or tell me an equivalent, or at least tell me how to work out a substitute. The pattern is from Raie Clare's "The Dryad Book of Bobbin Lace", the book from which I taught myself . . . quite a long time ago. It was published in 1987, in case that helps. The thread prescribed is "Swedish linen thread no. 90". Although I've looked through Ian Austin's chart, and Brenda Paternoster's invaluable booklet, "Threads for Lace", there is no mention of a thread with that name, so I'm guessing that it's not a brand name but something generic. This doesn't help me, as I've never been any good at understanding all that business of turns and wraps and deniers. However, I do have quite a lot of thread, (most of it still has the labels attached, too!), so I'm hoping you will be able to help me to find something to wind on my bobbins. After that, it's just a simple matter of throwing the bobbins around, of course . . . Well, I'm grateful to think that I'm sure I can turn to my Arachne friends whenever I come on yet another blank spot in my memory. Yours optimistically, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Tapestry bobbins
I have four very small tapstry bobbins, which would probably do for Honiton lace. But I could be wrong, as I don't do Honiton - I use these for lucet work. Judge for yourself. Here is a link to the place where I bought them, which gives a photograph and details:- http://www.fibrecrafts.com/ProductDetail.asp?Level1=&Level2=&Level3=&PID=5214&Action=&; Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). Brian Lemin wrote: I have made quite a few tapestry bobbins, and whilst not a lace maker I would find it hard to imagine them being used on a pillow. They are about 5 inches long and the tail diameter would be almost 1/2 an inch. Certainly the long neck would hold a lot of lace making thread. Possibly a "yak" substitute!! :) As has been said, they are made to hang vertically, hold thickish thread and be able to pass between the vertical threads. (Someone will tell me if it is the warp or the woof!) Some are weighted with lead in the tail. - Original Message - From: "bev walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bridget Marrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Arachne Lace Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [lace] South America Trip - bobbins I have tried tapestry bobbins for a scarf in bobbin-lace, using yarn. Such bobbins are intended to be used on a vertical setup; on a slanting or flat bobbin lace pillow, I found them to be too 'pointy' and they rolled a lot. They should be ok on a bolster pillow. There are other nice tools for weaving at the site Janice mentioned. Thank you Bridget for clarifying - led me to investigate ;) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Bridget Marrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: However the bobbins you bought are not actually intended for lace-making, but for tapestry weaving. This is made clear on the website. I can imagine the large, long-necked bobbins being very useful for some types of modern lace, if you need to wind on a lot of thickish thread. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1789 - Release Date: 11/14/2008 7:32 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Urgent help needed to identify object
. . . just a guess . . . Could it be a thing to hold your bobbin of thread while you reel off what you need, such as when needing both hands to wind thread on to a lace bobbin? I have something like that, but I can't remember what it's called - and I can't judge the size of the item in your photographs. Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. where it's mild for November, but breezy today - taking the last of the leaves from my cherry trees). Malvary J Cole wrote: Sorry to post to both boards, but sister Jacquie has asked me to post the following pictures for some urgent help in identifying this object. She urgently needs to find out what this is before the end of the weekend. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/568383048jvtGIk Here is the text of her message to me - she is away this weekend "Just arrived at Dover and been shown this thing by Pat Read. What is it, she wants to know, and was sure I would know. Well, I haven't a clue but do know the way we might fond out. . "It is NOT a bobbin display thingy (no slots for the necks). On the top ring there are small holes on top, at the sides and grooves on the back (see photos). The top comes off but I don't think it should. "The base has holes on the top only. Size is about the same as a bobbin display." Thanks for all your help. I bet someone knows what it is. Malvary in Ottawa on behalf of Jacquie who lives in Stamford but who is in Dover for the weekend. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1786 - Release Date: 11/13/2008 6:01 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaking saint?
Try this link: http://www.sttherese.com/Parents.html Here's a quote from the piece about Selie Martin:- "she had a tremendous enthusiasm for life and was a highly skilled lace maker and an astute business woman; yet her sights were firmly set on Heaven. She was a great letter writer, and her many letters give insight into her character. She comes across as a vivacious and witty woman who is not only deeply perceptive, but also critical of the society in which she lived and, by her own admission, impatient." Sounds like whe would have been an Arachne member, had she been around now! Linda Walton, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's a beautifully clear, calm Autumn morning, with the leaves just beginning to turn, and yesterday's storm is all forgotten. Janis Savage wrote: Hello all, In our yesterday's newspaper, was an article as follows. Lisieux - The parents of a Catholic Saint were beatified in France yesterday at a ceremoney attended by more than 10,000 believers. Louis and Zelie Martin, parents of St. Therese of Lisieux, are said to have miraculous powers to heal children. They are held up as "true models" for modern-day families. Louis died in 1894 and Zelie, a lacemaker, died in 1877. Does anyone know more about this lacemaking saint? Lace greetings from Janis Savage in Honeydew, Johannesburg, where we are appreciating the first rains of summer when the dust settles and all the countryside suddenly turns green. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1735 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 2:52 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace ID Help
Please will you help try to identify this lace for a friend of mine from another list? Penny wrote:- "Can anyone help me identify what type of lace is on a bodice circa 1900-1906? I have uploaded two images of the lace with large photos that the experts can download and enlarge on their computers. URLs: www.costumegallery.com/temp/image1.jpg www.costumegallery.com/temp/image2.jpg I wish I had more time to learn about laces. But it I had time to stop and learn that, I would have to stop working on another project." If you post messages to the list, or to me, I will pass them on to Penny - they will be anonymous unless you specifically tell me it will be alright to pass on your name, and/or e-mail address. Many thanks, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dictionary and woollen lace
First of all - thank you for your original dictionary: I have owned my copy for a long time, and it's condition certainly shows use. I will be happy to buy a new edition any time you produce one. Here is a suggestion for you to track down. It is a subject that I have tried to track down my self, but haven't got very far:- Yak Lace. When I first came across this, I was reading the Ruth Bean edition of Thomas Wright's "The Romance of the Lace Pillow". As I live in High Wycombe, I was interested by the references to this lace being made here. As you will see, there are certainly some contradictions between this piece and the later one (quoted below). I haven't yet been able to look into the sources quoted by these authors, which might clarify matters. Your own entry in your dictionary is quite brief, so I hope that you will agree that there is scope for more. I was intrigued by your suggestion that "Yak" was a corruption of Yorkshire, the county supplying wool - it certainly sounds like it could have been a local pronunciation. And might a Yak bobbin be the same as our local "Bucks Thumper"? All this certainly came as a surprise to me, and I'd like to know a lot more - not just about the trade around High Wycombe, but especially about making lace with multi-coloured wool. My apologies for the length of this message, but I thought that others on the list might be interested to find out about lace made from wool. Many thanks, Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. where it's cold and damp, made worse by the men with a pneumatic drill outside my front door, but they are trying to mend a really bad broken water pipe, which has been pouring a stream down my drive and has made a huge pool outside my front door for the last ten days - so I'm grateful really, however distracting). P.S. I find the quality of the text from my scanner varies with the quality of scan I set, and can be made error-free. A poor original can be much improved, you just have to accept that it will take the machine a little longer to do. * * * * * from Thomas Wright's "The Romance of the Lace Pillow", Ruth Bean, Bedford, 1982. [Page 228] "About 1870 there began to be made throughout Buckinghamshire and Bedfordshire, especially ar Newport Pagnell, High Wycombe and Stagsden, a coarse, strong bobbin lace, the material of which seems at first to have been obtained from the Yak animal. Most of it, however, was made of Yorkshire wool. The designs of Yak, as it was [page 229] called were geometrical, being copied from Reticella and silk Maltese Guipure. "One of the results of its introduction was the gradual extinction of the Black Silk Lace industry, the centre of which at that time was Haddenham near Aylesbury. High Wycombe obtained a name for its wheel-like design, the Town Trot, which was made in enormous quantities." There is a footnote:- "In North Bucks Mr. E. Godfroy alone used three hundred pounds weight of wool per month." "A brown lace with blue plaits made in widths of two, three and four inches, which was used for dresses, valances, and for decorating furniture, occupied many pillows at Newton Blossomville and other villages in North Bucks. At Carlton (Beds) a very heavy worsted lace of every imaginable colour was made in widths from half an inch to a foot, but the black variety of Yak was most in demand. [There is a plate showing a piece of Yak lace, but I don't think I can reproduce this for you.] The fashion, however, for all kinds of Yak soon declined, and eventually became almost extinct, except with respect to the cream variety which is still sold for children's clothes." There is another footnote:- "Gibbs's "History of Aylesbury", p. 622; Bull's "History of Newport Pagnell", p. 196." There is an additional piece on page 241:- "Lace-making has never been a well paid industry. The worker fared best in the Yak period, when she could make ten shillings a week." I followed this up with an internet search, and got this webpage, from Oxford's Pitt Rivers Museum:- http://england.prm.ox.ac.uk/englishness-beds-maltese-and-yak-lace.html Here is the part of the text about Yak lace, but there is more to read, and also some pictures. 'Yak' lace In Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913), 'yak' lace is defined as 'a coarse pillow lace made from the silky hair of the yak'. The length made by Mrs. Campbell, however, was made from worsted sheep's wool and was probably representative of the general quality of the lace. Like other types of Torchon laces, this sample of 'yak' lace has a geometric pattern and has a very wide mesh, making it quick and easy to make, even for a beginner. The main
[lace] Before bobbin lace
Well - 'before bobbin lace' for me was also 'before arthritis', and I was a glider pilot, being an instructor and doing well in competitions. But I did wear woolies that I'd knitted myself, usually the heavy Icelandic type, with a circular yoke, done on many needles. I'm not supposed to knit at all now, but I sneak in a few stitches every so often, with the sock or jumper carefully supported, and still using lots of needles, or a circular needle. Or I knit little Gunnister purses, using silk yarn, for gifts. The physiotherapists officially approved my bobbin lace - I had to take in a pillow to show how it was done - because it uses the hands more evenly than knitting. Little did they know, I'd have done it anyway, since I was hooked on lacemaking from the moment I saw someone working on a pillow at a Women's Institute meeting. It's been very hard for the last three years to give it up, but I knew I'd never get through my university courses unless I concentrated completely. At least I've been able to indulge in reading the Arachne messages now and again, so that I didn't feel completely cut off. Recently, I 've been doing some research on lace in the eighteenth century: not the making,but the stealing. It seems to have been quite a major activity, from the number of people who came up in court at the Old Bailey in London. Some of what they stole was gold and silver lace, these used quite a lot of real bullion. Some of it was thread lace: stolen ruffles and such, or clothing with lace on it from houses, or shoplifting pieces. Some of it was major thefts, such as all the stock from a shop, or everything a dealer was carrying from here in Buckinghamshire to a dealer in London. Despite the legends, there seems to have been very little lace smuggling, tea and brandy seem to have been more popular. (Maybe you were less likely to be caught?) Later this year I'm looking forward to getting out a pillow again: I'm afraid I will have completely forgotten how to do it. Still, it won't hurt to learn afresh - it's surprising what you notice second-time round that you completely missed the first time. Thank you, everyone, for being there. Linda Walton, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. where the Sun has just come out after heavy rain Ah - April! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Lacemaker's Story: Loughborough Luddites and Long Journeys
Dear Lacemakers, By accident, I came across this notice about the exhibition in my title, which I thought might interest some of you. The website where I found the details was the "24 hour museum" one, http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk and here is the link to the exhibition details, http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/leicester/events/EDR51086.html?ixsid=RlsfY1Ba1Wi but as I'm not sure if that will work directly for you, I've copied them below. Best wishes to all my lacemaking friends on this list! I've missed you, but I'm in the third year of my course now, and just daren't stop to read messages - or even make any lace, although the siren-call of my pillow is getting ever louder. Linda Walton, in a very chilly High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. The Lacemaker's Story: Loughborough Luddites and Long Journeys Harborough Museum, Market Harborough, Council Offices, Adam & Eve Street, Market Harborough, LE16 7AG, Leicestershire, England Exhibition created by the Friends of Charnwood Museum about inventor John Heathcoat and his lacemaking machine, the Luddites who attacked his factory in 1816 and the workers who travelled 200 miles following Heathcoat to Devon. Dates: 14 November 2007 - 03 January 2008 Open: Mon-Sat 10.00-16.30, Sun 14.00-17.00 Closed Good Friday & Christmas Admission: Free Contact Details Tel : 01858 821087 Fax : 01858 821 000 E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : www.leics.gov.uk/index/community/museums/harborough_museum.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] interesting history site. bone lace
Hello Bev and Lacemakers
bevw wrote:
(snip)
and I have a theory that the term 'bone' is a spelling of "bow'n"
where it relates to the thread tied in bows, rather than hung on
bobbins, to make the lace (= bow'n lace). Others will dispute that,
and say that 'bones' were used for bobbins. I discovered the term
"bow'n" in the archived pages of the 16th century book of instruction
for young people, courtesy of Tess and the late Professor ( valé
Professor Ralph).
(snip)
A most interesting theory!
I found this in the OED On-line, which seems to
support it:-
"1709 STEELE Tatler No. 61 {page}4 [They] should
be sent to knit, or sit down to Bobbins or Bone-lace."
(Of course, this is a much later piece of writing.)
Please, what is the C16th reference?
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).
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