RE: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
That's interesting. We don't have a bobbin lace tradition in Israel, so I wonder why he thought it was Israeli? Unless it had Miriam Gidron's name on it (or mine) or it was purchased in Israel, that seems rather unlikely. Could you post the URL again sometime? I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks. Best wishes, Avital Suzy wrote: i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
here is his name and email address, and i can even forward the email he sent me if you like. i'll post it on lace after i'm done : James Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting. We don't have a bobbin lace tradition in Israel, so I wonder why he thought it was Israeli? Unless it had Miriam Gidron's name on it (or mine) or it was purchased in Israel, that seems rather unlikely. Could you post the URL again sometime? I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks. Best wishes, Avital from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. I don't see any gimps, and those look like pomegranates, which I'm not sure I've seen too much of in beds lace. The footside isn't a common English one either. And if it was English, I don't think they'd have done rolled tallies on it, since they're slower to make than the humped ones. It does sort of have a Kortelahti look to it, but that wasn't my first thought. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we've had the first storm of the season which has caused much damage to my lovely Honey Locust in front of my house. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
At 08:35 AM 10/13/2005, you wrote: It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. It does sort of have a Kortelahti look to it, but that wasn't my first thought. I have my doubts about it being handmade though the pattern is very interesting. I've seen some machine lace that was so close to handmade that it fooled alot of people. I'm sure it's not Kortelahti, though some features are similar to her style. I would have to see an enlargement of the insertion before I make an opinion about it's origin. For newbies -- Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti is a Finnish lacemaker and pattern designer who has published several books of patterns. I enjoy making her patterns and have most of her books. She has a style of her own. In a past discussion on this list, it was concluded her lace should be called Kortelahti Lace because it didn't fit into any specific traditional lace style. Most of her books show a pricking and a picture of the lace. The lacemaker has to be able to work without written instructions or detailed diagrams to make these patterns. Alice in Oregon -- where I have been working on a Kortelahti pattern, and it's raining outside. It's doesn't look good for Saturday's Harvest festival but the bobbin lace demo is indoors. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. i thought you were going to guess it by the descrition you were giving. at least you knew it couldn't be english. i'll bet if i gave you a few days to think of it, you or someone on this list would have gotten it right!! i thought it was a beatiful piece of lace work, and i'm sorry i was too cheap to by a yard considering it was 100 years old! even if it were to come out to be machine made, but then again i have the photo to copy for the pattern, and i plan to keep it. It looks more French to me. Doesn't quite have the feel of beds. I don't see any gimps, and those look like pomegranates, which I'm not sure I've seen too much of in beds lace. The footside isn't a common English one either. And if it was English, I don't think they'd have done rolled tallies on it, since they're slower to make than the humped ones. from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
oops, to suzy, sent this to you privately and meant to include the lace list: This is like the story of the 6 blind philosphers trying to identify by feel a particular strange beast (it was an elephant) - so many interesting opinions. I sent the link of the picture of the lace to a collector pal of mine. Her reaction: Yes, this is fantastic lace! I would date it somewhat later, like early 20th C, and note that it's construction is somewhat similar to a guipure pattern I found (1910-20). I think it is likely Belgian. On 10/13/05, suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ -- bye for now Bev, getting used to a new e-mail system in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins: www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: antique bobbin lace
here is his name and email address: James Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED], and he says he works with this women often, so maybe you can get more information than what i got. i'm not arguing where it came from because i wouldn't know one type of bobbin lace from another for the most part, but if this is a hundred year old piece of hand made lace, then it would just as important to know who made it and where it came from, especially if it had such a large yardage that it could be sold by the yard. i might find the courage to write him again in a few days and find out, but not tonight! lol! it was sold out before i could get a question in about it! i'm sure he will do business with the same lady again and she can get the info for us all on where it came from then. --- bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is like the story of the 6 blind philosphers trying to identify by feel a particular strange beast (it was an elephant) - so many interesting opinions. I sent the link of the picture of the lace to a collector pal of mine. Her reaction: Yes, this is fantastic lace! I would date it somewhat later, like early 20th C, and note that it's construction is somewhat similar to a guipure pattern I found (1910-20). I think it is likely Belgian. On 10/13/05, suzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote the seller and he said that he felt it was handmade because of the inconsistant thread tention. he also said it had isrealy (isrealie ?) origins, and the seller told him it was hand made, but she has been wrong before. Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: antique bobbin lace
On Oct 13, 2005, at 23:48, bevw wrote: Maybe someone in Israel used to have this lace, but they bought it in Europe ~ They'd have had to, since Israel as an independent country (and using that name) is under 60 yrs old... In 1905 - the earliest date for the lace to be judged antique there was no Israel - there was Palestine, under British administration. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
