[lace] Dubious lace bobbin on ebay
I just now had a look at that bobbin that Brian is talking about. It is very 'white' colour, - for my thoughts. I have some old bobbins passed down through the family, and they are mostly a deeper creamy colour. The lettering on my bobbins is less sharp - this looks more like newer lettering, and the bobbin has not been used very much. It does not have that feel to it that a lot of handling gives a bobbin. I agree, Brian, that the lettering has been added more recently, as the edges of the dots are sharper, - not worn with use, and smoothed down, like my bobbins are. Except for the bottom bead, the square beads are similar to some of my bobbins' spangles., as is the wire. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Dubious lace bobbin on ebay????
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautiful-Victorian-antique-inscribed-bone-lace-bob bin-w-romantic-message-/221414498570?pt=UK_Antiques_AntiqueTextiles_EHhash=i tem338d55210a#ht_359wt_1186 There is a gentleman selling a number of his wife's bobbins collected over the past 20 years. He indicated the possibility to identifying it via Springetts book. A challenge that i jumped at. The bobbin clearly looks old, spangling likewise, even the possibility of it being a James Compton bobbin so what is dubious about it? Let me start by being charitable. Yes, probably James Compton, no real problem there; The shaft ends have a turning shape rarely seen, but in the spirit of charitability they could have had loose rings in those âchannelsâ, perhaps beads ...doubtful as there is no marks to show that the wires were fixed somewhere; possibly pewter filled.. I really doubt that in the design and style of James Compton. So that leaves the question of what could be wrong? It is all about the printing. It looks suspiciously like it has been added later. It really does not look like the style of printing of the maker, or indeed any maker in Springett, just look through your book and try and match it up, things like seraphs (or lack of them) âalong the shaft straight line printingâ, colour, , neatness or even to be ânit pickingâ, the name Millicent (an old name for sure, but I have not seen it on a bobbin before (it could be on a bobbin of course)) There is one guy... sorry, bobbin maker! that often surprises me, that is the âBitted manâ, I even looked at his output in Springett and my own resources, and for sure he has not sprung a surprise on me this time. The Springetts did us huge service in producing their book, but continuing study by various people has shown that there are other makers that are easily identifiable and we could, like Springett give them a ânumberâ, and one area where i feel that huge progress has been made is in the study of the styles of printing and identifying makers by printing style. I am fortunate enough to have access to a private study by a bobbin researcher of such a preliminarily document on printing styles (Possibly a definitive document) that to me has been a huge addition to my bobbin resources. I suggest to collectors that printing on bobbins is well worth looking at and learning about. I use it after i have exhausted all other possibilities. As all âexpertsâ say I do not really know if this bobbin is in its original form, that is why i have used the word âdubiousâ and i will be happy for someone to show that the printing has not been added at a later date. It is best learning possible to be proved wrong. I should add I have no idea when any printing would have been added... that in itself could have been a fair while ago.. not necessarily a modern addition. Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Looks (and sounds) more like a needle case to me. Karen (currently in London) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a Knife Rest might fit the bill. (Keep it off the table cloth!)\\\Oh well. Brian -Original Message- From: Agnes Boddington Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:11 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
In my opinion it isn't a bobbin. I saw once a similar thing which was a needle case. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids, The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not show the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and does show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower part). I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and getting further photographs from the vendor. Happy lace making, Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I saw the threaded ends and was wondering if the 'caps' were missingthus it would be some sort of needlecase or thimble holder. Just a guess. Karen Bovard The ShuttleSmith Omaha, Nebraska http://www.theshuttlesmith.com/ Blog: http://theshuttlesmith.blogspot.com/ On Friday, January 31, 2014 7:56 AM, J D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com wrote: Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids, The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not show the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and does show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower part). I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and getting further photographs from the vendor. Happy lace making, Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I have a similar piece that is used just to wind finished straight lace on behind the pillow??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651 1 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Susie Morris, IL. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s) The thin raised bands don't seem to spiral - they seem to be separate decorative elements. It could be turned animal bone but it could also be bakelite/celluloid/plastic. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I keep forgetting reply all It's definitely a knife rest. I remember them from my childhood--those and food pushers. Cynthia On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Adele Shaak wrote: I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the description. I thought needle case, but with no ends, needles would fall out. It's not clear if the grooves each end are a screw threads to take a screw on cap or just rings. Rollers for lace don't usually dip in the middle. Looks too new for animal ivory, but could be vegetable ivory. or as has been suggest some sort of plastic. Used as a knife rest, it would roll. My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about that. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
On 31/01/2014 13:31, J D Hammett wrote: The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. Are we looking at the same thing? The title says Vintage or Antique Turned Lace Bobbinand in the description: Welcome to my auction for an Antique or Vintage Turned Bobbin.The item appears to be made from turned animal bone with a hollow centre. Unusually large for a lace bobbin I have no idea what it might be, although it certainly could be used as a knife rest. A more detailed description would help. Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Hi Jean, Yes, the title does say lace bobbin, but the vendor doubts it with; Unusually large for a lace bobbin . The grooves seem to be straight rather than slightly skewed as they would be as screw-threads. On a table cloth -possibly with an underlay which is soft- the item used as a knife rest would not roll. As you say: rollers do not usually dip in the middle. It could be plastic of some type, but would it be made as nicely? A door curtain? I cannot see an opening nor is there any damage where the beads would have 'clonked' against each other. And a starting bead of £4.99 seems rather steep for a bit of plastic. Joepie, East Sussex From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the description .Used as a knife rest, it would roll. My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about that. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651 1 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK --- From Jeri: Here is an opportunity for one of our young members to become our expert on lace tools! Perhaps someone who collects them. (Did you read my memo yesterday about our need for experts?) All you require in this computerized world is the ability to do research, and to ask the who? what? when? where? why? While finishing up this reply (close to 3 hours of back and forth to my library, etc), Cynthia has weighed in that this is definitely a knife rest. I'm releasing my memo anyway, because it teaches by example how to ask questions, think, and eliminate unlikely possibilities. I was looking at the one photo that comes up. It does not show the ends as being open like a bead, as one Arachne member has written. Before I read this bead possibility, I thought the ends looked closed and smooth. Here are my notes based on closed ends. I do not know how to recover the complete description some replies have mentioned. Not like any needlework tool I remember in my books, and I've just closely looked again at 5 of the best. It has a slight resemblance to a tool used for darning gloves. But, for this purpose, why are both ends the same? Why grooves that would snag? Wouldn't points of needles damage the surface? They rule this purpose out, glass, metal or wood being more suitable as darners. Glove darners usually have a long handle at one end, and a bulbous shape at the darning end that stretched fabric so one could see what needed repair and held the fabric so repairs could be done. This looks to be the correct size with the center narrowed area being what one would grip. Still, why the grooves? Why ivory/bone? Why 2 darning ends? As presented, it makes no sense as a spool. If hollow, it seems very tightly shut at the points where parts meet, making it unsuitable for storing old needles. If moisture got trapped inside, needles might rust. Still, this might be the answer. The 3 1/2 length is correct for this purpose, Agnes. If this is as smooth as it appears, it could be used now to polish lace - as lobster shells were once used. Think of aficots used by French lace makers to polish and remove small slubs from finished needle lace. But, it makes no sense for this ivory/bone implement to have started out for this purpose. The lace makers needing to polish their laces were very poor, and smooth lobster claw aficots would have been free. If this is for the dining table, as Brian suggests, I think it is more likely a chopsticks rest or maybe for an old writing implement - pen rest (but wet ink pens would stain it). I have 4 sets of jade chopsticks from my trip to China in the 1980s. They came with small jade rests 1 3/4 in length and carved to be lower in the center top, presumably to keep chopstick tips off the table surface? Anyone have books with table settings and writing implements? I do not think bone or ivory is suitable for a knife rest, though maybe they were what was available (and easily replaced) for use by children. I do not remember knives being offered at dining tables in the Orient. Cutting and cubing was done in the kitchen to make food of a size that chopsticks could manage. I have antique cut glass ones that are more appropriate for the sharpened blades used in Western cultures to carve meat 100 years ago. The rest length on these is 2, with quite large round ends that are very fancy. These could raise the knife up quite a bit from the tablecloth, were easily cleaned, did not stain, were elegant. Better photos on Ebay, and easy way to retrieve dealer's notes, would help. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 1/31/2014, brid...@bigpond.com writes: If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a Knife Rest might fit the bill. (Keep it off the table cloth!) Brian - It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
My guess is that it is a vintage turned piece-of-something-else. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Oh, wait - a curtain pull! You know, that handle that hangs on the end of the cord that draws your curtains. The rings provide traction in your hand, you can pull with your fingers wrapped around the smooth middle section. I see the seller has confirmed that the hole goes right through the centre; the cord would be threaded through and knotted. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
My first thought was that it's a needle case. I have something similar in wood which dates back to the 1980s or 1990s and would have been bought from one of the many bobbin turners around at the time. However, mine has a cap with a screw end which goes inside the main part. On close examination of the ebay photo the grooves at each end appear to be parallel decorative grooves rather than spiral threads. Could it be that there were two end caps, which are now missing, which just pushed onto the ends which are slightly tapered? Maybe even thimbles as end caps to stop the contents from falling out. If it was intended as a knife/chopstick rest why bother to make it hollow? and why not have a flat surface somewhere to stop it from rolling around? Brenda On 31 Jan 2014, at 07:56, Jean Nathan wrote: Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Or a fan pull for the cord of a ceiling fan. I had a secret pal give me a wooden one that looks pretty much the same. Cindy Rusak, in snowy Bracebridge, ON, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] bobbin on ebay
It looks like we're getting to him/her!! The seller is now saying he/she is having doubts about it being a lace bobbin, and has given two enquiries to that effect. Hasn't published mine (or Amanda's, I don't think) and has changed the story from 'selling it for someone else' to 'bought it at an antiques fair'. Could be a handle from a lot of things such as a stilletto, crochet hook, button hook but if it came in a whole box of needlework bits and pieces then the remote similarity to a bobbin was enough to convince him that's what it is. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I took a good look at your 'bobbin' . I think it may have been used in embrodery, when the stitcher doesn't a picture drawn and the fabric is really goiing to show any markings. One of my grandma's had one in her sewing box. She said she used it to stuff some of her embrodery. I'm sure that it was my dad's mother, as mother was the baby andthe older ggits has given everything away. Any way It never came my way. I don't promise thats what that is, bbut it looks similar. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bobbin on ebay
I think I have got the answer. It is a bone pen holder. (Like a nib holder on the bottom part into which you placed the nib) What do you think? Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I do enjoy seeing some of the strange things people associate with lace. This is a bobbin which someone may have spangled after deciding it was a bobbin... or it may have actually been used by a lacemaker (who was being resourceful?) But it clearly wasn't originally made as a bobbin... so what WAS it?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7324298097 Clay Well, I told them it wasn't a lace bobbin (and why it wasn't - no neck, no head, spangle wrong with new wire) and got the answer that they are selling for someone else and that it what they said it was and that they had to take their word for it, I rather got the impression that they would rather believe their customer than me. Hope someone doesn't buy it taking their word for what it is. Anyone else game for trying to change the sellers mind? Amanda Nottingham, England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brian Lemin I think I have got the answer. It is a bone pen holder. (Like a nib holder on the bottom part into which you placed the nib) What do you think? Hello Brian, Your suggestion sound really credible to me. Greetings from Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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YES! I think it's that too. I remember our scratch pens we were forced to use in 4th grade and they looked much like that much simpler of course. There was a cork doughnut around the spangle end of the bobbin and the metal nibs fit into the doughnut. I NEVER got the hang of making the darn pens work! But I was lousy in pensmenship any how. Thank goodness I didn't live in the pre fountain pen days! Trish in very rainy West Virginia I think I have got the answer. It is a bone pen holder. (Like a nib holder on the bottom part into which you placed the nib) What do you think? Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Clay and everyone I do enjoy seeing some of the strange things people associate with lace. This is a bobbin which someone may have spangled after deciding it was a bobbin... or it may have actually been used by a lacemaker (who was being resourceful?) But it clearly wasn't originally made as a bobbin... so what WAS it?? I like to think it was used by a lacemaker who was being resourceful - the one bobbin broke and here was a doo-dad that could be cobbled into a replacement. I used a BIC pen once, when a bobbin broke - why not this a century or so ago LOL As to what it really is/was, I hold with Brian's message that it was a handle, on account of its taper - a nib holder, or for any of the other tools that Victorians wanted to keep to hand -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] bobbin on ebay
I do enjoy seeing some of the strange things people associate with lace. This is a bobbin which someone may have spangled after deciding it was a bobbin... or it may have actually been used by a lacemaker (who was being resourceful?) But it clearly wasn't originally made as a bobbin... so what WAS it?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7324298097 Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbin on ebay
Clay, I think it must have once been the handle to something as the spangle end looks like it went into something. A stick base for a fan or a doll's parasol? In any case is sure is strange! Trish in sunny West Virginia I do enjoy seeing some of the strange things people associate with lace. This is a bobbin which someone may have spangled after deciding it was a bobbin... or it may have actually been used by a lacemaker (who was being resourceful?) But it clearly wasn't originally made as a bobbin... so what WAS it?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7324298097 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Scrimshaw lace bobbin on ebay
How about this one - a 'scrimshaw' lace bobbin carved by a sailor at sea for his sweetheart! Really??? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2595550223category=439 9 Where do sellers get their ideas from? Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scrimshaw lace bobbin on ebay
Jean- This particular idea stems from the knowledge that all bone items were carved by sailors for their sweethearts, and that all those sailors were on whalers in 1843. It's the same knowledge from which we get all that lace that is indisputably victorian. :- Vasna in snowy Boulder, Colorado, where the flakes are coming down now as big as peas! At 06:52 PM 2/11/2004 +, you wrote: How about this one - a 'scrimshaw' lace bobbin carved by a sailor at sea for his sweetheart! Really??? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2595550223category=439 9 Where do sellers get their ideas from? Jean in Poole Vasna Zago Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Scrimshaw lace bobbin on ebay
Once when demonstrating at a craft fair with some of my beautiful old Midlands type spangled bobbins on the pillow I was told by a very knowledgeable gentleman spectator that *did I know that the bobbins were send home by the soldiers to their sweethearts during the war with messages in code on them*. In trying not to laugh I must have looked bemused instead!! Diana (in almost spring like Northamptonshire) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] It isn't a lace bobbin on ebay
Stiletto would be my best guess also. Lace bobbin it isn't. Check out the following auction also on Ebay: Item # 2560687284, or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2560687284category=39445 I think it's actually on Ebay.com, but was in the UK Ebay when I found it. Vintage Figural Point de Venise Doilie (sic) is the description. Another grrr for sellers who do not post clearer photos, but in this case I think a clearer photo would be kiss of death as even from the blurred photos this appears to be chemical lace to me. Second opinions? Would not, as seller claims look great framed may not be all that old, either JMNSHO Korwyn in Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] It isn't a lace bobbin on ebay
This certainly isn't a lace bobbin - there's nowhere to wind the thread. I don't think it's a stilleto because the point's rather short and the taper's a bit steep. Thought there might be a stanhope (magnifying glass with tiny pictures of scenes of a town or village) in the blunt end, but the 'hole' looks oval rather than round and I've only ever seen round stanhopes. So has anyone got an idea what it is? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3244596103category=114 or search for item number 3244596103 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] It isn't a lace bobbin on ebay
I think it's a stiletto. Take a look at this stiletto: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3241092100 the point is about the same size and shape. About the hole in the end - possibly for threading a ribbon through, to help you keep track of your stiletto? Maybe it went on a chatelaine, or just was attached to your sewing box so you could always find it. Another possibility is that there was a bit of curved glass set into the end, as a magnifier, that could have broken. This theory is a bit thin, I know, but if the seller can't tell it isn't a lace bobbin you never know what else they may not have noticed. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) Jean wrote: This certainly isn't a lace bobbin - there's nowhere to wind the thread. I don't think it's a stilleto because the point's rather short and the taper's a bit steep. Thought there might be a stanhope (magnifying glass with tiny pictures of scenes of a town or village) in the blunt end, but the 'hole' looks oval rather than round and I've only ever seen round stanhopes. So has anyone got an idea what it is? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbin on ebay - alleviating ?
(snip) A brass pin would lend strength to the relatively fragile part, like steel rebar in pre-stressed concrete. If the pin were recessed into the head to produce a smooth surface, you wouldn't even notice it was there, except that your bobbins wouldn't break at the head. Patty Would the pin be put in to the bobbin blank before turning then? I don't know anything about wood or turning but I would have thought that if the pin was put in after it splinter the neck of the bobbin? jenny Either way - suppose the bobbin blank were to be soaked in water or oil, would that help to prevent the cracking when the pin was put in ? Or would it then crack anyway when it 'dried' out ? Toni in Seattle - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] A Victorian lace bobbin? on ebay
This looks more like a fat stiletto to me rather than an honest lacemakers' bobbin: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3238172372category=114 or search for item number 3238172372 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]