[lace-chat] Re: If you have no web site
At 08:44 AM 7/26/05 +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: >My immediate reaction: "Why would I want a web site?" The impetus for the incident described in the original post was a discussion on alt.sewing which required me to show the other participants pictures of the trousers I was designing. Those pictures may still be posted, for all I know. I created a whole new Yahoo identity when we got a new ISP and I couldn't figure out how to change the address for the old identity. But I believe Yahoo does delete mailing lists that go a certain number of years without activity. So if you don't have a digital camera or a scanner, you *don't* need a Web site. > Our ISP gives a generous allowance > for a free web site, but it's not something I can ever see us doing. Cool -- once you learn how to use FTP, it's a groovy way to back up non-sensitive files. You wouldn't back up Quicken that way, but for stuff nobody would bother to read, calling up WS_FTP and clicking "send" is a lot easier than reaching for the box of floppies and taking out the one at the back. My mailing program, for example, conglomerates the messages I haven't yet dealt with into a pair of humongous files that won't fit on a floppy, but they fit with room to spare into one of the otherwise-unused Web sites (we get eight with our Internet access). Without the mailer to read it, said file is a confused mess, and if you could read it, you wouldn't learn anything I didn't want you to know. Another web site holds the off-site back-ups for my works in progress -- after one disaster (aka "upgrade"), the only copy of my poetry I could find was the one on the web site. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Where's my igloo?
Hi, All! For anyone who might be interested, I got this in my email today... THE SNOW MUST GO ON Inuit fight global warming with human-rights claim against U.S. Remember how Snow White used to moon around singing, "Some Day My Prince Will Come"? That's kind of how the world is about global warming, only not so rosy-cheeked and excited. Some day, they figure, global warming will come. Maybe. Or whatever. But up in the Arctic, that day is here -- the ice is melting and life is changing, fast. The native Inuit who call the area home are fighting back by filing a human-rights claim against the chief climate-change offender, the U.S., Emily Gertz reports. Find out if their dreams will come true. new in Main Dish: The Snow Must Go On http://grist.org/news/maindish/2005/07/26/gertz-inuit/ Regards, Ricki Utah USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Mould
One year my oldest daughter was in a portable classroom at her school. It had indoor-outdoor carpeting throughout. When it was rainy or snowy, all the wet shoes and boots wetted the carpet - and the whole place was so moldy that I told them if her class was in it the next year, she would be going to a different school. All my kids and I are very allergic to mold - it's horrible to have it around all the time. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: distances
Dear Lacemakers, Helen is correct about distances to travel in Australia. DH and I did a camping trip in 1973 from Parkes to Darwin in his MGB in the supposed dry season. This turned into a wet season. The roads from Darwin to Alice Springs were being re-sealed, so a side detour graded . This soon became a river and the MGB is not very far off the ground. The sealed road at that time was only one and a half car widths, combined with water filled dips in the road, meant one night was spent with our wheels just on the tar and hoping the huge road trains could see us as they were able to plough through. We survived, but there is no way I would go camping in Darwin with no fridge etc. Barbara in Parkes where the surrounding wheat paddocks are turning green. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] barbara underwood double picots
sorry! i read the email without thinking. you were talking about winding the bobbins. i am definity going to use this, so i will practicing it tonight. i really want to get some winding done. i'll bet it takes no time by rolling the string up or down the leg. it was working great with the dowel and its the same concept, but i will get more spins per push with the string. that is a better ratio than some of the bobbin winders. --- Nicole Bouchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you use one string on the bottom of the bobbin to > wind the thread on the top of the bobbin.But the > best way to see how it works is (at first) to forget > about the thread at the top and get the feel for how > the string can make the bobbin spin. > > I don't remember where you live but next time you are > around lace makers, ask around if anyone knows how to > do it and can show you. > > Nicole > > --- susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > do you mean that there are two different strings > > attached, one at the > > bottom of the bobbin and one at the top? the string > > method would be > > much better because the amount you of thread put on > > the bobbin per spin > > would be more on such a small thread than on a wide > > dowel or even the > > smallest dowel. > > > > from what i understand i am attatching one end to > > something and then > > what do i do? lol! > > > > i have also come to another conclusion. i am going > > to buy a book on > > automa or mechanical movements. you can even build > > these things with > > cardboard and work they like machinery. it has > > something to do with > > little circles moving other little circles to make > > toys move or > > carousels go around. i think i am going to borrow a > > book from another > > library to get the pattern for the gadgets and see > > if i can make my > > bobbin go around to put thread on it! lol! > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Mould
My DH is an ex-plumber and a building inspector, and he has a little quote which just about sums up some of the current debate "If you insulate, you must ventilate" We too have what is know locally as the leaky building syndrome, and some of the culprits are developers who wanted the fastest return for the least outlay on their investment, so shortcuts were taken, new products on the market which the builders did not use appropriately, lack of qualified tradesmen and inappropriate design e.g. a stucco type cladding on a Mediterranean type design with no overhangs, and this in a wet, temperate climate... hello! So there is a Kiwi version of what is obviously affecting the whole globe. Maxine Nothing is so strong as gentleness. Nothing as gentle as real strength. St Francis de Sales To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] barbara underwood double picots
there is an older woman whose son owns the local lumber store and he mentioned to me that she owned a bobbin winder when i was buying wood for mine, so i assume she is an able bodied lace maker if she is not too far into her elderly years. i think i will slip in there with some baked cookies or a nice pie and ask if she might want to show me how she does it. my picots are not that bad, and i did follow the directions correctly, but i hate them, so its not a big deal if i find another way to make them. i can also buy a video for bobbin lace making. i like the learning dvds any way. i have one on playing the viola. not that it worked any better than the books because it didn't, but at least it gave me instructions on how to hold it correctly and what it sounded like to play. it also has notes to play while tuning the thing and teaches you how to read music. if this fails then its off to the amish or menonite villages. there are a few near this part of tennessee, and i know they have demonstrations all the time. i'm sure if i went in there and bought a nice book or some lace prickings they might demonstrate a picot for me. --- Nicole Bouchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you use one string on the bottom of the bobbin to > wind the thread on the top of the bobbin.But the > best way to see how it works is (at first) to forget > about the thread at the top and get the feel for how > the string can make the bobbin spin. > > I don't remember where you live but next time you are > around lace makers, ask around if anyone knows how to > do it and can show you. > > Nicole > > --- susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > do you mean that there are two different strings > > attached, one at the > > bottom of the bobbin and one at the top? the string > > method would be > > much better because the amount you of thread put on > > the bobbin per spin > > would be more on such a small thread than on a wide > > dowel or even the > > smallest dowel. > > > > from what i understand i am attatching one end to > > something and then > > what do i do? lol! > > > > i have also come to another conclusion. i am going > > to buy a book on > > automa or mechanical movements. you can even build > > these things with > > cardboard and work they like machinery. it has > > something to do with > > little circles moving other little circles to make > > toys move or > > carousels go around. i think i am going to borrow a > > book from another > > library to get the pattern for the gadgets and see > > if i can make my > > bobbin go around to put thread on it! lol! > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: towel heaters
well, please don't put any clothes away in your closet until they are completely toasty dry or you will have smelly mess on your hands. i lived in norfolk and virginia beach for one year and saw as much mold there growing on the wall as i did in tennessee. actually it is better for fine linens to be hung on the line because the dryer wears the threads or something like that. regardless of how much money some had and how big of a dryer, they still hung their linens on the line. i think that would also be linen clothing as well. really i think cotton wears just the same, and if you want to make a longer life to anything it is best not to use a dryer. i have an umbrella hanger which is not as good as the "clothes line wrapped around the tree" clothes line because the air doesn't circulate well enough to dry the ones in the middle. it pops up and down like an umbrella and is prettier to look at, but does not work as well as typical clothes line. i got it for about 80 dollars not including shipping and handling, and it is a money saver when you live in apartments where you are not allowed to own a dryer because there is no where to hook one up. i was allowed to put my clothes umbrella up in the yard and it saved from having to carry my clothes on the bus in a big bag to the local laundry to dry them. sometimes all the money in the world cannot buy you a dryer in those kind of circumstances. --- Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2005, at 16:03, Lynn Carpenter wrote: > > > we have such damp air, towels won't dry hanging > > outdoors on the line in the sun, let alone hanging indoors in a > small > > bathroom with no exhaust fan. > > When I first got here (Lexington, Virginia), I forced my DH into > very > "low class" behaviour; I wanted an outside clothes-drying line, and > he > was gonna set it up, or else. The adjunct to the washer (the dryer) > could go and fly a kite. > > Well... I don't mind being labeled as "low class", since that's no > more > than the truth... But, what dries outside in Colorado in 30 minutes, > and in Poland in 3 hours (if it happens not to be raining), is still > "clammy" after 9 hrs in Lextropolis. By which time, it's also > "decorated" by bird-lime. Laundry *never* dries in LexVegas; even if > it > goes through the drier, it still feels damp. True, *ironing* takes > care > of the problem, but I never signed up with the sado-masochist club... > > :) > > -- > Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ > Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Paranoia is good for ya
i did mention just under or near the same sentence you copied that most of the other arachnians did not mind using their last names and cities. i didn't add the word "we" to make myself sound more popular in any situation. i live in a small town now instead of the big city and we don't lock our car doors here most of the time either. something i would never dare do in detroit because that is how many people really are stalking the parking lots and hoping for an easy hit at stealing a vehicle. probalby equally wrinkled, but you are much kinder and gentler at your weapon than most of both in detroit and here in a rural hunting community. a frying pan isn't what they'll get if they come through any door in here. a 12 gauge would be more accurate. probably used more to protect them from the snakes being it would give them a better and longer aim at the thing, but also used for wild dogs that like to attack. i'm not a fan of rattlesnakes, copperheads, and cottonmouths (if cottonmouths and copperheads are the same snake, sorry for the mistake) and i don't like wild dogs either. as far as privacy goes, we don't have any and never will again. i wait for the next reallity show to be some random family who didn't volunteer for it and required by law to do it. i wonder when people will lose interest in garbage like that. i also wonder why there is no way to lobby or protest to make it illegal. the seventies brought about a lot of good things with their protests and i think if people still want a government they should start it again. if its still legal. if the police are giving such warnings its because they have no intentions to do their job, and if they have to they will do it wrong just for making them lift their lazy fingers. i think the police have appointed themselves figure head employees of the state and have decided which rights they will not protect picked out from the rest. what ever makes their job easier. they are using the media to gain most of it. that boob tube is their best way of making the world paranoid and most people see and read is a lie or some government employee given a different name acting out some horrible crime he was supposed to have commited just to sway the people and congress to invent a new bill to "protect" or imprison other citizens. i learned that in my crimal justice class. researchers can pretend to be what they want under any name, and can even put themselves in prison as some horrible murderer or serial killer that never really killed any body. i would be very careful what you believe when you read and see with the media and how the government plans to use that to get anther rule passed making some poor citizens lose their rights. if we all end up in a military state its to protect us from our own police departments and local governments. --- Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2005, at 13:56, susan wrote: > > > we thought adding our last names or our cities would give away > where we > > live to crazies. > > Please change "we" to "some of us". Most of us know that witholding a > > surname and/or location does not provide a shield against a > *determined* evildoer. It's the same as locking the door on your > house/car... > > In our area, we began locking the house doors some 15 yrs ago (we had > a > spate of very "specialised" break-ins. Turned out it was the cops, > whom > we alerted to be extra careful in patrolling while we were off on > vacation). Most of us *still* do not lock the car doors when we go > shopping in the local grocery store. Or... I've seen it, honest > Injun... we lock the doors, but leave all the windows wide open (and > the spare key in the glove compartment as likely as not ) > > The "philosophy" behind that behaviour is: someone who's hell-bent on > > doing damage *will*, no matter how many hoops you make him jump > through. A "casual criminal", OTOH, is going to be discouraged > easily, > and will look for easier prey. > > I will not remove my surname/town (and I'm the only one of that > surname > in our Lextropolis/Lex Vegas/what have you) from my signature just in > > case a crazy is gonna stalk me on the basis of it. Anyone stupid > enough > to have a taste for wrinkled meat and a whop on the head with > whatever's near to hand (and, being traditional in many ways, I have > a > choice of cast-iron skillets ) is welcome to try... :) > > Thinking that you can preserve your privacy in 2005 is folly. It was > folly in 1955 too, but then only the government knew all about you > (and > if you think it was true only in the communist countries, you're > deluding yourself). Now, *everyone* knows evrerything about you at a > puter keystroke... Your best defense against the home-bred crazies is > > *still* the cast-iron skillet :) > > Until the pigeons come home to roost and all the terrorists we (US) > have bred by invading Iraq start suicide-bombing *our* metros
[lace-chat] Re: Air Conditioning
"Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I've only encountered air conditioning in modern shops and ofices. >Everywhere else relies on opening doors and windows and portable fans. >Portable air conditioning units are available in the big DIY stores, but >they're not something we seem to have latched on to. In the early 1960's this was true in Michigan, too, and this reminds me of a story: When my parents were married, they went to Florida on their honeymoon. They were married in August. So these two 1960's 20-year-olds drive down to hot, humid, sticky Florida in August. They are so hot, they are practically hanging their heads out the car windows like a dog to catch the breeze. But they notice that a lot of the people in the other cars they see are driving around with their car windows all rolled up! "Hm," they say to each other, "Maybe they know something we don't!" And they roll their car windows up. After sweating profusely in their closed-up car for a few minutes, one of them realizes that what all these native Floridians have in *their* cars, that they don't, is a little thing called "car air conditioning"! :D (In the 1960's in Michigan, air conditioning was relatively rare except in classy department stores, and *car* air conditioning was even rarer.) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] distances
In a message dated 7/25/2005 10:50:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Well, at least you've got ood roads you can drive along to get from one > town to > another!! In Australia, apart from the coastal areas which are the populated > ones, most roads are dirt roads, and not really very nice on your car if you > don't have a 4WD or equivalent! My poor little Corolla certainly couldn't > stand > going to Perth for our next Lace AGM, even less to Darwin which is up top > and > surrounded for thousands of miles of ...nature, including one of two > deserts!! > Lacemakers who come from Brisbane to Perth travel about the distance from > London to Moscow, but without the roads and the population. > Friends of mine live in Mount Isa at the moment, top of Australia, and to > come > down to Melbourne by plane, they pay around $4,000, compared to $2,000 to go > to > Europe and back. They do have a 4WD, and it takes them 4 days to drive down, > and I must say that Ian usually drives at 100 miles an hour, except in > townships where he follows the rules. > > Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, who now thinks it's cute the way French > people feel that driving 10 miles to go to a party is really the limit! > It's all relative, as Einstein used to say. Here in Utah, where we just celebrated "Pioneer Day" the parade reminded us that many of the pioneers who settled this State traveled across the desert with handcarts -- not even horses or oxen -- to carry their belongings. And to think that they arrived here in July, the hottest time of the year - it really makes you wonder how they survived walking across the desert, especially with the lack of water, and how long it took them. Ricki T Utah USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal thank you
Thank You so much for the wonderful package. The chocolate coins and the gum were great. My brothers helped me take care of them. The Brugge cloth is so neat. I will use it on my pillow at my next lace demonstration. I love to demonstrate making lace. The lavender sachet is so nice. My littlest brother keeps running throught the house waving it so the house smells like it. The card is very nice but my favorite thing is the Dolphin light up pen. My mom made me cover cloth and bobbin rolls with Dolphin material. Thank You again for the wonderful package.Amanda Moad To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Piecework
Certainly on mainland UK, Piecework can be ordered for you by your local newsagent. I have been getting it for a year this way, having found an issue on the shelves of a newsagent in a small Moray Firth village. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thank You
Thank You Secret Pal for the lovely hanging sachet. It is so nice. I gather you are from Scotland. My husband and I both have Scottish ancestors. Our favorite instrument is the bagpipe. Right now I am spinning enough wool to dye and weave into tartans. Thank You again. Hannah Moad USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Monica Ferris
I recently read the previous two of Monica Ferris' books which I hadn't read, and ordered the newest one - had a phone call from the library yesterday to say that it had arrived. I don't think they had a waiting list (unlike The DaVinci Code which still has a waiting list of several hundred) because the library catalogue said that it would be available around 21st July. Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's capital), Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Monica Ferris
I see the first 3 Monica Ferris books have been re-released in one volume called Patterns of Murder http://tinyurl.com/cgf8f jenny barron Scotland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Piecework
Lindy (& other UK, EU residents) I now subscribe to Piecework and the price is very reasonable. The first issue I subscribed to took ages to get to me, but now it arrives as regular as clockwork! It's easy to subscribe to via their webside (I can look that out if anyone wants it) and the price is excellent, especially with the dollar exchange rate as it is. If anyone want the details, let me know and I send it to you all. For the two of you who won the raffle, it's a lovely article and I hope you both enjoy it very much. With best wishes Jill @ Heathrow where it's grey and overcast To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] unsubscribing
Hello, Spiders of all kinds, Sorry to double up, but I'm just unsubscribing for 3 months while I go to Europe, and wanted to get everyone in one swoop. I'll think of you all while looking at lace in Europe (hopefully!!), and also lace books, which I will post back as usual, since our suitcases will be full of other things. I'm starting with 4 days in Bedford where I very conviniently have a friend, then off to Hungerford and then Wales instead of London, the friend who lives in Ealing having decided to accept an invitation to go sailing in Sweden (I guess I would too, if I was invited :-). We hope Wales is too far for any terrorist to bother going there, but we'll be careful when arriving and leaving at Heathrow. I feel I'm back in the 70's with the Algerian FLN in Paris and the IRA in London. 5 days in Copenhagen next, and then off to France with my parents. I hope to go to Le Puy some time, but won't be able to make it for the Couvige (their big lace meeting in October) as Dad is taking us on a 10 days trip to Croatia. It's a tour, unfortunately, and they are not going to Idrija. Drat! Take care of yourselves, and have a wonderful lace time while I'm away. Helene, the quite distracted froggy from rainy Melbourne Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: Now with unlimited storage http://au.photos.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] If you have no web site
Joy wrote: Just been clearing my lace/lace-chat in box and re-read Joy's email. My immediate reaction: "Why would I want a web site?" My life's not interesting enough to share with others. Our ISP gives a generous allowance for a free web site, but it's not something I can ever see us doing. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Air Conditioning
Tamara wrote: I've only encountered air conditioning in modern shops and ofices. Everywhere else relies on opening doors and windows and portable fans. Portable air conditioning units are available in the big DIY stores, but they're not something we seem to have latched on to. During the recent very hot and humid weather, we opened all windows, but kept doors locked as usual (Tamara's other email on paranoia). We also closed curtains/blinds on the windows when the sun was shining directly into the room, opened those and closed the ones in the next room as the sun moved round. Unfortunately as there was no breeze, the open windows didn't create a cross draught, but we were less hot than we would have been with them closed. Don't know what the current building regulations are, but it used to be that there had to be a minimum amount of opening area per certain area of glass. This was partly for ventilation and partly as a means of escape in case of fire, especially now that most people have double glazed windows which are very difficult to break because of the vacuum between the two panes. They need to be hit with something pointed and hard near a corner - hitting in the middle will just bounce. Because we have a gas fire in our living room, we have a permanently open vent in one of our windows. It's checked annually when the fire is serviced and is a regulation to guard against carbon monoxide poisoning. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
