Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
2011/12/30 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com: 2011/12/30 Vincent Snijders vincent.snijd...@gmail.com: Maybe you can use: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/images/powered-by.svg Vincent Nice, SVG! Thank you! Is there SVG of IDE icon (the stylized cheetah)? Best Regards Kjow Can I use a modified (by me) logo? Thank you, Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Free Pascal 2.6.0 released!
In www.freepascal.org is wrote: Current Version Version *2.4.4 *is the latest stable version the Free Pascal. Hit the download http://www.freepascal.org/download.var link and select a mirror close to you to download your copy. The development releases have version numbers *2.5.x*. See the development http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var page how to obtain the latest sources and support development. -- The best regards, Fabio Luis Girardi PascalSCADA Project http://sourceforge.net/projects/pascalscada http://www.pascalscada.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:19:27 +0100 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/12/30 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com: 2011/12/30 Vincent Snijders vincent.snijd...@gmail.com: Maybe you can use: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/images/powered-by.svg Vincent Nice, SVG! Thank you! Is there SVG of IDE icon (the stylized cheetah)? Best Regards Kjow Can I use a modified (by me) logo? Modified how? Using the original has the advantage of recognition and tracking. You can modify it. Anyway, you may want to add a link here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Projects_using_Lazarus Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Finished full JVM Android application
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: As I've written in the wiki itself, I wanted to wait with this until the JVM port is merged to trunk. I commited in rev 34549 -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Hi, I've read about cross compiling on the wiki, finaly managed to rebuild sources and install compiled binaries and units however fpc's target OSes did not changed and still missing support for Win64. Sources were built with make all OS_TARGET=win64 CPU_TARGET=x86_64 make crossinstall OS_TARGET=win64 CPU_TARGET=x86_64 INSTALL_PREFIX=\path\to\my\fpc I can produce x86_64/win64 binaries manually with 'ppcrossx64' but the main fpc.exe still lacks win64 target, so I'm not able switch in Lazarus between win32 and win64 targets. The question is about including another target in fpc compiler so I need not to call separate cross-compiler. Take care. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM, leledumbo leledumbo_c...@yahoo.co.idwrote: What commands do I have to use to rebuild FPC another target OS/CPU like Win32/i386 will be supported ? http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Custom-OS-CPU-targets-for-FPC-build-help-tp3621041p3621677.html Sent from the Free Pascal - Lazarus mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
2012/1/3 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com: The question is about including another target in fpc compiler so I need not to call separate cross-compiler. If you installed the cross compiler correctly, you can use fpc -Px86_64, which will call the cross compiler. Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Finished full JVM Android application
Am 03.01.2012 13:40, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Sven Barthpascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: As I've written in the wiki itself, I wanted to wait with this until the JVM port is merged to trunk. I commited in rev 34549 Ok. Thank you. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
2012/1/3 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de: Modified how? Using the original has the advantage of recognition and tracking. You can modify it. Anyway, you may want to add a link here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Projects_using_Lazarus Mattias I merged Lazarus Icon with Powered by (svg), in next email I'll attach it. Ok, I'm going to finish the project, I'll add my program to the wiki :) Thank you! Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Am 03.01.2012 13:45, schrieb David Unric: I can produce x86_64/win64 binaries manually with 'ppcrossx64' but the main fpc.exe still lacks win64 target, so I'm not able switch in Lazarus between win32 and win64 targets. The fpc.exe simply calls the default ppcXXX.exe for which it was compiled if no -PXXX was given and displays the help options of that. So if your default compiler is ppc386 then fpc -h will display all i386 targets. If you now do a fpc -Px86_64 -h it should display all targets for x86_64. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
Nice! please, share the svg file... William de Oliveira Ferreira Bacharel em Sistemas de Informação 2012/1/3 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com 2012/1/3 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com: I merged Lazarus Icon with Powered by (svg), in next email I'll attach it. Here it is. Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Documentation update (CHM building, lazutils)
On 12/30/2011 04:23 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: If that is at the expense of requiring a GUI system then IMHO it gets worse rather than better:-) +1 The generation should be callable from another script. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
2012/1/3 William Oliveira Ferreira bdexterholl...@gmail.com: Nice! please, share the svg file... I have no svg of Lazarus Icon (the stylized cheetah on png format). I merged: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/images/powered-by.svg with http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/images/f/fd/Lazarus-icons-lpr-proposal-bpsoftware.png (from: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/New_Lazarus_Icon_Proposals But If I could have this one in svg also, I can release an hi-quality svg logo :) Best Regards, Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Documentation update (CHM building, lazutils)
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 12/30/2011 04:23 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: If that is at the expense of requiring a GUI system then IMHO it gets worse rather than better:-) +1 The generation should be callable from another script. As it already is? If you want to learn more about the documentation manager, look into examples\fpdocmanager\ :-) DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
2012/1/3 Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com: 2012/1/3 William Oliveira Ferreira bdexterholl...@gmail.com: Nice! please, share the svg file... I have no svg of Lazarus Icon (the stylized cheetah on png format). I merged: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/images/powered-by.svg with http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/images/f/fd/Lazarus-icons-lpr-proposal-bpsoftware.png (from: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/New_Lazarus_Icon_Proposals But If I could have this one in svg also, I can release an hi-quality svg logo :) Best Regards, Kjow Wow, nice icon. http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Image:Old_icon_dock.png -- Silvio Clécio Site - silvioprog.com.br LazSolutions - code.google.com/p/lazsolutions -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Thx Vincent, by supplying -P switch to fpc, I can finally produce x86_64 executables. I'm surprised this switch is not mentioned in interactive help (fpc -? or -h). Why compiler fails when supplied with documented -Ttarget os option ? fpc -Twin64 consoleapp.dpr Error: Illegal parameter: -Twin64 Error: c:\Lazarus\fpc\2.7.1\bin\i386-win32\ppc386.exe returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? I'd appreciate any hint. David On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Vincent Snijders vincent.snijd...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/3 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com: The question is about including another target in fpc compiler so I need not to call separate cross-compiler. If you installed the cross compiler correctly, you can use fpc -Px86_64, which will call the cross compiler. Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Build modes not saved in default compileroptions?
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:46:54 +0100 Bart bartjun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A while ago I added buildmodes to one of my projects (Release and Debug) with 2 different sets of options for code-generation and linking. I then told the IDE to use these compileroptions for all my new projects. This worked fine, all my new projects now had my 2 build modes. Maybe you used Save Project As? However, this seems no longer the case. It was never implemented. Only the active build mode was saved (one set of compiler options). I have to re-define my build modes in every new project I make. I implemented it. When the checkbox 'Use these ... as default' is checked the IDE now saves all build modes and will use them for new projects. I'm currently using r34334 with fpc 2.6.0. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
I got it, thank You Sven. Now I just need to set Lazarus to use -P option if I set target CPU family target in Project options. It seems to be ignored by my current installed version 0.9.31 . Regards. David On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.comwrote: Am 03.01.2012 13:45, schrieb David Unric: I can produce x86_64/win64 binaries manually with 'ppcrossx64' but the main fpc.exe still lacks win64 target, so I'm not able switch in Lazarus between win32 and win64 targets. The fpc.exe simply calls the default ppcXXX.exe for which it was compiled if no -PXXX was given and displays the help options of that. So if your default compiler is ppc386 then fpc -h will display all i386 targets. If you now do a fpc -Px86_64 -h it should display all targets for x86_64. Regards, Sven -- __**_ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.**freepascal.orgLazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.**freepascal.org/mailman/**listinfo/lazarushttp://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tuesday 03 of January 2012 15:55:58 David Unric wrote: I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? You don't need anything to pass to fpc, lazarus can do that via project options (compiler options), you can set various build modes there. 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? You have project build modes ... it's easy to switch. zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Am 03.01.2012 15:55, schrieb David Unric: Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). Are you sure that it's a 32-Bit application? I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? This is the same problem I mentioned in my other mail. Without the -PXXX argument fpc selects the i386 compiler which does not know about the win64 target, thus the error. 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? I'd appreciate any hint. Normally this works by changing the CPU family in the compiler options. Are you sure that you've set Lazarus to use the correct compiler? Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:55:58 +0100 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com wrote: Thx Vincent, by supplying -P switch to fpc, I can finally produce x86_64 executables. I'm surprised this switch is not mentioned in interactive help (fpc -? or -h). Indeed. Please create a bug report. Why compiler fails when supplied with documented -Ttarget os option ? fpc -Twin64 consoleapp.dpr Error: Illegal parameter: -Twin64 Error: c:\Lazarus\fpc\2.7.1\bin\i386-win32\ppc386.exe returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) ppc386.exe does not know about the target 'win64'. Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). It does use the -P and -T switch. But it passes them only if they differ from the default. I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? 1. Fix your installation, so that setting Target OS and Target CPU in the IDE compiler options works. 2. Add another build mode. http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Compiler_Options#Build_modes Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Hi, On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.comwrote: Am 03.01.2012 15:55, schrieb David Unric: Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). Are you sure that it's a 32-Bit application? It is detected as i386 app by PE Information tool from GExperts. If I compile source from command line by fpc -Px86_64, the produced exe is detected as 64bit (AMD x64). I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? This is the same problem I mentioned in my other mail. Without the -PXXX argument fpc selects the i386 compiler which does not know about the win64 target, thus the error. Ok, fpc -P argument is mandatory, there is no default CPU target for OS target. 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? I'd appreciate any hint. Normally this works by changing the CPU family in the compiler options. Are you sure that you've set Lazarus to use the correct compiler? Regards, Sven Yes, the path to fpc compiler in Lazarus options is coorect. Compiler path is C:\Lazarus\fpc\2.7.1\bin\i386-win32\fpc.exe . -- __**_ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.**freepascal.orgLazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.**freepascal.org/mailman/**listinfo/lazarushttp://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
Hi Mattias, On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.dewrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:55:58 +0100 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com wrote: Thx Vincent, by supplying -P switch to fpc, I can finally produce x86_64 executables. I'm surprised this switch is not mentioned in interactive help (fpc -? or -h). Indeed. Please create a bug report. I'm going to fill a bug report. Just attempted to make sure I did not miss something, ie. I'm mistaken. Why compiler fails when supplied with documented -Ttarget os option ? fpc -Twin64 consoleapp.dpr Error: Illegal parameter: -Twin64 Error: c:\Lazarus\fpc\2.7.1\bin\i386-win32\ppc386.exe returned an error exitcode (normal if you did not specify a source file to be compiled) ppc386.exe does not know about the target 'win64'. Allright, CPU target is a mandatory option. Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). It does use the -P and -T switch. But it passes them only if they differ from the default. I'm still confused here. I did peek into .lpi project options file and it contains the following tag: CodeGeneration TargetCPU Value=x86_64/ TargetOS Value=win64/ /CodeGeneration Although a clean rebuild of source produces i386 executable. No error messages during compilation phase. ??? I'd like to ask somebody to shed some light on this subjects: 1) why supplying target OS option (-T) fails ? If I'd like to build win64 exe on win32 system have I pass CPU Target and fpc automagically selects appropriate OS Target ? 2) How to tweak Lazarus so I can simply switch between win32/win64 targets ? 1. Fix your installation, so that setting Target OS and Target CPU in the IDE compiler options works. 2. Add another build mode. http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Compiler_Options#Build_modes Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:19:57 +0100 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). It does use the -P and -T switch. But it passes them only if they differ from the default. I'm still confused here. I did peek into .lpi project options file and it contains the following tag: CodeGeneration TargetCPU Value=x86_64/ TargetOS Value=win64/ /CodeGeneration Although a clean rebuild of source produces i386 executable. No error messages during compilation phase. ??? Hmm. Maybe your fpc.exe and lazarus.exe were compiled differently and have different defaults. I changed the IDE to always pass the -T and -P if they are set. [...] Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Problem with JVM and/or native types
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:23:08 +0100 Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] The error with the first external class or interface declaration now has gone away, but I have found a new problem: Ctrl+Clicking on an identifier that is declared in the AndroidR14 unit gives the following error: ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: Bezeichner nicht gefunden: TObject at Line=2 Col=6 in /mnt/data/source/fpc/fpc-jvm/rtl/android/jvm/androidr14.pas But there is no TObject at that position. TObject is the default ancestor of a class. It does not need to be written in code. It works here. Clicking on what identifier? Also if I do this in a Java project instead of an Android one with an identifier that is declared in jdk15.pp then I get the following error: ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: Bezeichner nicht gefunden: TObject at Line=17 Col=6 in /mnt/data/source/fpc/fpc-jvm/rtl/java/system.pp Using an identifier that is declared in the system unit (JLObject) results in the same error. It works here. But I don't have a working jvm compiler, so maybe it has some special defines. Also a strange behavior: consider the following code: === example begin === THelloWorld = class(OBPJJavaPlugin) Where is OBPJJavaPlugin defined? private fLog: JULLogger; fFoo: OBPJJavaPlugin; public constructor Create; procedure onEnable; procedure onDisable; procedure onLoad; override; end; === example end === I can successfully Ctrl+Click the identifier inside the class(...), but I can not do that for the type of fFoo (see above mentioned error). I can also successfully do code completion in the class parent, but not for fFoo (if I do that for the type of fFoo then the code completion jumps to the above mentioned error location in system.pp, which is the unit system; line) Nevertheless working with the JVM port is much easier now. Thank you very much :) Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Build modes not saved in default compileroptions?
On 1/3/12, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:46:54 +0100 It was never implemented. Only the active build mode was saved (one set of compiler options). I must have been delirious then, because that is how I remember it, and being excited that it did that. Too much Lazarus makes you high ... ? I implemented it. When the checkbox 'Use these ... as default' is checked the IDE now saves all build modes and will use them for new projects. Thanks for implementing my hallucinations! Bart -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! I need a suggestion to translate this to portuguese. Usually an “invalid circle” is translated as “referência circular inválida”, but right now i am confused with this new term, maybe that classic M$ error “Erro de redundância cíclica” Any help will be welcomed. Thanks in advance, Marcelo B. PaulawlEmoticon-smile[1].png-- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Problem with JVM and/or native types
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:23:08 +0100 Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: Bezeichner nicht gefunden: TObject at Line=2 Col=6 in /mnt/data/source/fpc/fpc-jvm/rtl/android/jvm/androidr14.pas But there is no TObject at that position. It seems JLObject is the base class for target jvm. I added that information to codetools. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
03.01.2012 22:24, marcelo.bp пишет: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what circle meant before. In fact there is no term circle anymore, it was replaced by cycle. -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
On 03/01/2012 17:30, Maxim Ganetsky wrote: 03.01.2012 22:24, marcelo.bp пишет: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what circle meant before. In fact there is no term circle anymore, it was replaced by cycle. well I am not a native English speaker, but are we sure cycle is better (in terms of correctness) than circle (or maybe circular)? I would usually associate cycle with wash cycle life cycle: a period (time span) of a greater happening. (German zyklus) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:24:24 -0300 marcelo.bp marcelo...@netsite.com.br wrote: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe both are bad English. It should indicate that the (package) graph has a cycle. For example when two packages depend on each other. Because packages are compiled one after the other, a cycle is not supported aka invalid. The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I need a suggestion to translate this to portuguese. Usually an “invalid circle” is translated as “referência circular inválida”, but right now i am confused with this new term, maybe that classic M$ error “Erro de redundância cíclica” Any help will be welcomed. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. But people speak of circular unit reference. I never heard cyclic unit reference. If you search for cyclic unit reference in Google, it will give results for circular unit reference instead. For me something cyclic makes multiple turns. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.dewrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:19:57 +0100 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Lazarus 0.9.31 seems to do not use -P option as it still produces i386 code even if target CPU family is set to x86_64 in Project options and exe is rebuilt from scratch (console app). It does use the -P and -T switch. But it passes them only if they differ from the default. I'm still confused here. I did peek into .lpi project options file and it contains the following tag: CodeGeneration TargetCPU Value=x86_64/ TargetOS Value=win64/ /CodeGeneration Although a clean rebuild of source produces i386 executable. No error messages during compilation phase. ??? Hmm. Maybe your fpc.exe and lazarus.exe were compiled differently and have different defaults. I changed the IDE to always pass the -T and -P if they are set. Just had a look at command line options Lazarus passes to FPC (Show options in Project options) and can confirm, the cpu target -P is missing if x86_64 is explicitly selected. How did you changed IDE to always pass -T and -P options ? Thx. David [...] Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Logo
2012/1/3 silvioprog silviop...@gmail.com: Wow, nice icon. Thank you :) Best Regards, Kjow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:16:34 +0100 David Unric dunric...@gmail.com wrote: How did you changed IDE to always pass -T and -P options ? Here is what he did: http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/trunk/ide/compileroptions.pp?sortby=dateroot=lazarusview=diffr1=34561r2=34560diff_format=h R. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Free Pascal 2.6.0 released!
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:19:31AM -0200, Fabio Luis Girardi wrote: Version *2.4.4 *is the latest stable version the Free Pascal. Hit the download http://www.freepascal.org/download.var link and select a mirror close to you to download your copy. The development releases have version numbers *2.5.x*. See the development http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var page how to obtain the latest sources and support development. Thanks, fixed, will be visible tomorrow. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Custom OS/CPU targets for FPC - build help
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:03:44PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote: Am 03.01.2012 13:45, schrieb David Unric: I can produce x86_64/win64 binaries manually with 'ppcrossx64' but the main fpc.exe still lacks win64 target, so I'm not able switch in Lazarus between win32 and win64 targets. The fpc.exe simply calls the default ppcXXX.exe for which it was compiled if no -PXXX was given and displays the help options of that. So if your default compiler is ppc386 then fpc -h will display all i386 targets. If you now do a fpc -Px86_64 -h it should display all targets for x86_64. Or, if you kinky, try the effect of -V -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
I must agree with Felipe. Cyclic to me, remember something that repeats within a period. I just recall one error that uses the term cyclic that is the well known CRC error. So I must keep the translations as they are, and keep the word circular in portuguese where cyclic/cycle is referred. Thanks everyone. Marcelo. -Mensagem Original- From: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:57 PM To: Lazarus mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. But people speak of circular unit reference. I never heard cyclic unit reference. If you search for cyclic unit reference in Google, it will give results for circular unit reference instead. For me something cyclic makes multiple turns. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to words in common use. However, in everyday English neither of the nouns 'cycle' or 'circle' has the meaning 'mutual interdependence' except perhaps as a curious extension of the metaphor which works poorly if at all. Whereas the adjective 'circular' can carry a meaning of 'interdependent' or 'dependent on itself'. So a 'circular argument' is flawed in that it refers to itself rather than to an independently established proposition. But in English you would not normally refer to such a circular argument as a 'circle' and expect people (apart perhaps from graph theorists?) to appreciate immediately what you meant. Dependency (or interdependency) is the more descriptive term, which does not rely on a strained metaphor - although 'mutual dependency' is rather a mouthful. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] trunk OSX Lion 10.7.2 Scrolling Problem
On 30/12/2011 16:51, Helmut Hartl wrote: On OSX lion 10.7.2 in lazarus trunk, the svn revision 33972 breaks the mouse wheel scrolling in the ide editor (at least for a magic mouse) - The view stutters, does not scroll, or scrolls only some lines and stops. The version before worked fine. Please try with rev 34570 Normal scrolling should work. However any other function that yau may assign to the wheel (or shift/alt + wheel) will only react to every third wheel turn. This is due to the lcl carbon code -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
marcelo.bp schrieb: That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! There exist several idioms: circular [unit] references leading to *wrong* circle ... loop (endless loop) in code execution or unit references breaking loops meaning here break loop in references cycle (from graph theory) is the currently accepted term for unit references, replaces the wrong circle term. But IMO cyclic references is wrong wording, should still read circular references. And don't confuse graph theory with graphics - a circle is a graphical element, while circular is a more general concept. Unit references should form an tree, which is a special kind of an graph (*without* loops/cycles). I hope that I didn't increase confusion right now ;-) I need a suggestion to translate this to portuguese. Usually an “invalid circle” is translated as “referência circular inválida”, Looks good to me :-) but right now i am confused with this new term, maybe that classic M$ error “Erro de redundância cíclica” Alegre What's the English wording of this? I'd guess circular references, or endless loop (causing stack overflow)? DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
Martin schrieb: Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what circle meant before. In fact there is no term circle anymore, it was replaced by cycle. well I am not a native English speaker, but are we sure cycle is better (in terms of correctness) than circle (or maybe circular)? See my other mail. I would usually associate cycle with wash cycle life cycle: a period (time span) of a greater happening. (German zyklus) Ein Zyklus ist zwar (primär) eine zeitliche Schleife, in der zyklischen Vertauschung ist die Bedeutung aber eine andere, und die ist hier eher gemeint. In der Graphentheorie hat sich engl. cycle eingebürgert, deutsch eher Schleife (schleifenfreier Graph), was dann in der Übersetzung oft zu loop führt. Im Nachhinein bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob cycle (Graph) statt loop (Programmierung) wirklich eine Verbesserung bringt, wer denkt bei Programmieren schon sofort an Graphentheorie? DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
Howard Page-Clark schrieb: On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to words in common use. However, in everyday English neither of the nouns 'cycle' or 'circle' has the meaning 'mutual interdependence' except perhaps as a curious extension of the metaphor which works poorly if at all. After all I'm also not happy with cycle, when a coder will use the term loop for cycles. But what's the according adjective - loopy looks a bit weird to me? ;-) Whereas the adjective 'circular' can carry a meaning of 'interdependent' or 'dependent on itself'. So a 'circular argument' is flawed in that it refers to itself rather than to an independently established proposition. But in English you would not normally refer to such a circular argument as a 'circle' and expect people (apart perhaps from graph theorists?) to appreciate immediately what you meant. Dependency (or interdependency) is the more descriptive term, which does not rely on a strained metaphor - although 'mutual dependency' is rather a mouthful. IMO dependency is a straight unidirectional relationship (A depends on B), but interdependency is not a common term in technical (simplified international) documentation. The same for cycle, as borrowed from graph theory, which associates with motor cycle in technical context. Many languages seem to have problems with loops/circles/cycles as nouns, and the matching adjectives. Which noun and adjective would you suggest in the context of code and (circular) unit references? DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors
On 3-1-2012 22:51, Howard Page-Clark wrote: On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to words in common use. However, in everyday English neither of the nouns 'cycle' or 'circle' has the meaning 'mutual interdependence' except perhaps as a curious extension of the metaphor which works poorly if at all. Whereas the adjective 'circular' can carry a meaning of 'interdependent' or 'dependent on itself'. So a 'circular argument' is flawed in that it refers to itself rather than to an independently established proposition. But in English you would not normally refer to such a circular argument as a 'circle' and expect people (apart perhaps from graph theorists?) to appreciate immediately what you meant. Dependency (or interdependency) is the more descriptive term, which does not rely on a strained metaphor - although 'mutual dependency' is rather a mouthful. Though not a native speaker (which might actually be good as a lot of users won't be either): - agreed with Howard: circular would be the adjective that evokes an image of something leading back to itself. I would understand cyclic, but only because I already have skimmed graph theory... not something I'd expect of everyone. - the noun is more difficult. While mutual dependency or interdependency would correctly indicate that both units need each other, it doesn't indicate to me that this is a problem. Circle or cycle doesn't do it for me either, see above. I would just try to rephrase messages to use only the adjective. Regards, Reinier -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
