Re: [Leaf-user] RE: Bering from CD

2002-03-27 Thread Przemyslaw Rudy

Luis.F.Correia wrote:

 ...
 Even if I don't get around my bugs, I'll publish the results.
 ...


That was my intention in the initial mail, thanks :)


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[Leaf-user] two-diskettes system

2002-03-27 Thread Maxim Belchikov

 Hi, people.
I have a box with two floppy-drives (/dev/fd0xxx and /dev/fd1xxx).
I have no free CDROM, no HDD, no ZIP or anything else, only two
floppies. 
The questions:
 is there any civilized way to organize the lrp-system which would boot
from one diskette, take some *.lrp  from its and others from the second
one?
Civilized means that I want to be able to make backups and any system
configuratins change in usual simple manner. Besides I dont want to
spend time rewriting lrp-managing scripts.
The way when one has to change diskettes manually does not fit, I have
to be able manage my lrp-box remotely.
I use the Bering (beta4) at the moment.
I need some free space badly. (there're no unused modules, no
unnecessary software, it's impossible to free space on the boot
diskette).
Thanks.
Regards.

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RE: [Leaf-user] Serial question

2002-03-27 Thread Joey Officer

This would be the case, but if I remember correctly, the default kernel that
is used, is not one of the small kernels.  Not only that, but, the kernel
should not matter as long as you are loading the serial in /etc/modules.
One thing you might try, if there is a continued problem, try loading the
serial module before any network modules.  That way, the serial device
should take precedence.

HTH

Joey


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Kory...

I went through the same thing about a week ago.

Assuming that you are using the floppy-disk version of Dachstein rather than
Dachstein-CD, the problem exists because the Dachstein-small kernel on the
floppy doesn't have serial support rolled into it.

Download one of the available Dachstein-normal kernels from Charles' web
site and that should take care of it. I used WINIMAGE to transfer this to my
floppy disk image, then renamed it linux.

Also refer to Charles' serial how-to for additional details if you are
still stuck.

Good Luck!


FROM: Kory KrofftDATE: 03/26/2002 15:44:59SUBJECT:  [Leaf-user] Serial
question I know I am forgetting something but I can't get my new Dachstein
install working with the serial port. I decided to replace my beta
version with a new DS boot image. Everything works but I can't get my
serial port to terminal working. It worked with my old disk but not now.
I loaded serial.o in /lib/modules
I setup the getty line in /etc/inittab (uncommented and set T0:ttyS0
115200...
added ttyS0 to securetty
ran insmod serial
added serial to the list of modules in /etc/modules

Now T0 keeps respawning and will not work. What have I missed?
The system is a pentium 200 with two intel eepro100 cards. Is there a
way to check the irq assigned to the NICs?

Thank you,

Kory Krofft




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[Leaf-user] bering iptables modules included?

2002-03-27 Thread Kim Oppalfens

Hi,

I wonder what modules are included in the iptables in bering and what
modules can be added to the iptables.

I also wonder if it is possible to just replace an iptables version
Just with a new version with possibly some new modules. In other words would
making an iptables.lrp be possible, or is integration with the kernel to big
a problem and will you have to recompile the kernel to change something in
iptables?

Kim

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[Leaf-user] Using LEAF with one static public IP address

2002-03-27 Thread Dave Anderson

Hi,

I'm going to be switching my home network from ISDN to ADSL in the next few
weeks, and I want to set up a LEAF firewall in preparation. I currently have
a linux box as my gateway, running iptables. That box has the fixed public
IP address that my ISP provided. I also run a few services on that machine,
such as qmail, dns, www, sshd.

I'm going to buying an ADSL router, which will have an ethernet port on the
back, and I'm thinking of connecting that to my LEAF firewall, which
forwards traffic on to my internal network, including the linux box on which
I want to continue to run services.

My questions are these (and I realise they're not all totally specific to
LEAF, but I know you guys know your networking ;-)

- Will my adsl router get my public ip address (presumably)

- if so, should the router then have an internal address on it's private
facing port

- if, so, then presumably the LEAF external port is in the same network

- in the above setup, can I plug the internal eth from the router into the
LEAF NIC, with the right sort of cable

- Does my internal LEAF port then use another internal network, which
presumably is the same as my internal machines

- Do I then need to specifically nat all incoming requests to my particular
internal server (www, smtp etc)

- If so, does that mean I shouldn't use dhcp on the internal network, so I
can hard code the internal IP address of my server

And finally, does all this sound like the best way of doing this? My home
server is not really used by a large number of people - mainly for home
email and me logging in via ssh and imaps. It's pretty secure at the moment
with iptables on it, but I'd like to run LEAF, partly for even better
security, and partly to get used to LEAF even more.

Many thanks,
Dave


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Re: [Leaf-user] two-diskettes system

2002-03-27 Thread Jacques Nilo

 I have a box with two floppy-drives (/dev/fd0xxx
and /dev/fd1xxx).
 I have no free CDROM, no HDD, no ZIP or anything else,
only two
 floppies.
 The questions:
  is there any civilized way to organize the lrp-system
which would boot
 from one diskette, take some *.lrp  from its and others
from the second
 one?
It is a standard feature of most LEAF distro: Dachstein,
Bering and probably Oxygen all support a dual floppy
setup. In fact it is the way I am running Bering on my
router.
The setup is easy: put the main Bering disk in the floppy
that will be the default boot device (fd0), and put all
the packages that do not fit on this main floppy on a
second floppy, preferably with the same format (1680K
formatted floppy in the case of Bering).
Then modify the PKGPATH statement in the syslinux.cfg
file of your main floppy to replace it by:
PKGPATH=/dev/fd01680,/dev/fd1u1680
put in the LRP=  list all the packages name you want to
load.
That is all. The packages will be backep up of the disk
they come from unless you want to change that with
through the backup menu. Everything can be managed
remotly (generally through ssh). Check:
leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/leaffw04.html#AEN376
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Re: [Leaf-user] bering iptables modules included?

2002-03-27 Thread Jacques Nilo

 I wonder what modules are included in the iptables in
bering and what
 modules can be added to the iptables.
All modules provided in the latest iptables program are
available in Bering. Since Bering in using the 2.4.18 the
patch'o matic stuff is not activated: this kernel already
includes those.

 I also wonder if it is possible to just replace an
iptables version
 Just with a new version with possibly some new modules.
In other words would
 making an iptables.lrp be possible, or is integration
with the kernel to big
 a problem and will you have to recompile the kernel to
change something in
Whatever has to be put in userland can be compiled
separatly an could be package separatly as well. I did
not package separatly since iptable is a the core of
Bering. The iptable userland stuff is therefore provided
in root.lrp

The kernel part of netfilter/iptable can only be provided
by patching the kernel :-)

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[Leaf-user] Re: Re: Bering with SSH and TinyDNS

2002-03-27 Thread John Stauffer

Hi Matthew-

I have a Win2k server inside my local lan that handles my internal dns
and forwarding to bering (dnscache) for external addresses.

My resolv.conf is:

Nameserver 127.0.0.1

If I had to put tinydns on I could take off weblet and just check the
logs manually.
I did forget that some have to use ppp/pppoe so that will add more
packages.
I usually make a copy of this disk without pump, weblet and some modules
that I no longer  need and add ppp for if, more like when with comcast,
the cable goes out.

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[Leaf-user] DachsteinCD security questions

2002-03-27 Thread Dale Mirenda

I've just succeeded in setting up my first Linux-based VPN using
DachsteinCD. I greatly appreciate the high quality of the Dachstein package
and the (passive) help I got from browsing archives of this list.

At this point, I have two security-related questions:

1. How can I apply a password to the root login that takes you to lrcfg at
bootup? Without password protection, anyone with access to the console could
get into the configuration data.

2. If I use telnet to access my remote firewalls only through the VPN, do I
create a security problem? Should I use ssh for this instead of vanilla
telnet?

Thanks for your help, both future and past.

Dale Mirenda


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[Leaf-user] rdate, udp and Bering

2002-03-27 Thread Stephen Lee

Hi,

I noticed that rdate from Bering does not seem to accept the -u switch
for time requests using UDP. I suspect many of the RFC868 rdate servers
are only accepting UDP requests because under RedHat7.2 I needed the
-u switch to get a response for most of the servers tried. It appears
that the Bering rdate version is from Busybox and so is there a way to
get UDP queries from it?

Thanks,
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Re: [Leaf-user] Serial question

2002-03-27 Thread HENRY PSENICKA

Glad it's working for you Kory!

I'm not positive ( Charles could confirm this) but it seems likely that the
Dachsteinn-small kernal was substituted somewhere during the evolution of
the Dachstein floppy-disk distro as a space-saving measure.

Prior to last week, I haven't tried to use the serial console since
originally configuring EigerStein over a year ago. so I can't pinpoint
where or when the change occurred.


- Original Message -
From: Kory Krofft
To: HENRY PSENICKA
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Serial question


 Thanks Henry,
 That did it. I had set it up before using the loadable modules. I don't
 know why I had to do it this way now.

 Kory

 HENRY PSENICKA wrote:
 
  Kory...
 
  I went through the same thing about a week ago.
 
  Assuming that you are using the floppy-disk version of Dachstein rather
than
  Dachstein-CD, the problem exists because the Dachstein-small kernel on
the
  floppy doesn't have serial support rolled into it.
 
  Download one of the available Dachstein-normal kernels from Charles' web
  site and that should take care of it. I used WINIMAGE to transfer this
to my
  floppy disk image, then renamed it linux.
 
  Also refer to Charles' serial how-to for additional details if you are
  still stuck.
 
  Good Luck!
 
  FROM: Kory KrofftDATE: 03/26/2002 15:44:59SUBJECT:  [Leaf-user] Serial
  question I know I am forgetting something but I can't get my new
Dachstein
  install working with the serial port. I decided to replace my beta
  version with a new DS boot image. Everything works but I can't get my
  serial port to terminal working. It worked with my old disk but not now.
  I loaded serial.o in /lib/modules
  I setup the getty line in /etc/inittab (uncommented and set T0:ttyS0
  115200...
  added ttyS0 to securetty
  ran insmod serial
  added serial to the list of modules in /etc/modules
 
  Now T0 keeps respawning and will not work. What have I missed?
  The system is a pentium 200 with two intel eepro100 cards. Is there a
  way to check the irq assigned to the NICs?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Kory Krofft
 
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RE: [Leaf-user] DachsteinCD security questions

2002-03-27 Thread Steve Fink

Dale,

At the Dachstein command prompt:

firewall#passwd
Enter new password:
Re-Enter new password:


That should take care of that...

As far as telnet goes...

If you have all telnet ports closed to the outside world and are only using
telnet through the VPN tunnel then you shouldn't pose a security risk to any
of the machines behind the firewall.

Congrats! On the first time set-up!

Steve




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Subject: [Leaf-user] DachsteinCD security questions


I've just succeeded in setting up my first Linux-based VPN using
DachsteinCD. I greatly appreciate the high quality of the Dachstein package
and the (passive) help I got from browsing archives of this list.

At this point, I have two security-related questions:

1. How can I apply a password to the root login that takes you to lrcfg at
bootup? Without password protection, anyone with access to the console could
get into the configuration data.

2. If I use telnet to access my remote firewalls only through the VPN, do I
create a security problem? Should I use ssh for this instead of vanilla
telnet?

Thanks for your help, both future and past.

Dale Mirenda


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Re: [Leaf-user] two-diskettes system

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

Jacques Nilo wrote:
[snip]

 That is all. The packages will be backep up of the disk 
 they come from unless you want to change that with 
 through the backup menu.


It doesn't work that way on Oxygen  1.8.0, from my experience.
All backups want to go to the first floppy drive, which is a
pain as the other fellow mentioned.  I should try out 1.8.2
to be sure this is still the case, but it's been bugging me
a bit too.

Regards,
Matthew




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Re: [Leaf-user] Re: Re: Bering with SSH and TinyDNS

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

John Stauffer wrote:
 Hi Matthew-
 
 I have a Win2k server inside my local lan that handles my internal dns
 and forwarding to bering (dnscache) for external addresses.

Roger that.

 My resolv.conf is:
 
 Nameserver 127.0.0.1

But in this case, the LEAF box, using that nameserver,
queries the dnscache for name resolution.  Dnscache
will not have name/address pairs for your internal
lan, and my guess is that when you sit down at the
LEAF and type

nslookup 192.168.x.y

where x and y are replaced with real IP's on your
internal LAN that you don't get an instant response.
Am I correct?  If the lookup does succeed, it probably
is coming from your LEAF /etc/hosts.

I'm just curious because using tinydns takes care
of that, and I faced the same problem recently.

Regards,
Matthew



 If I had to put tinydns on I could take off weblet and just check the
 logs manually.
 I did forget that some have to use ppp/pppoe so that will add more
 packages.
 I usually make a copy of this disk without pump, weblet and some modules
 that I no longer  need and add ppp for if, more like when with comcast,
 the cable goes out.
 
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Re: [Leaf-user] rdate, udp and Bering

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

Stephen Lee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I noticed that rdate from Bering does not seem to accept the -u switch
 for time requests using UDP. I suspect many of the RFC868 rdate servers
 are only accepting UDP requests because under RedHat7.2 I needed the
 -u switch to get a response for most of the servers tried. It appears
 that the Bering rdate version is from Busybox and so is there a way to
 get UDP queries from it?
 
 Thanks,
 Stephen


I think tock.usno.navy.mil still accepts rdate queries.
You might try there.

As far as your UDP question goes, I'm not sure, but
people like to use xntpd for setting the time via
the internet because it's the standard service for
that sort of thing and is well regarded.

rdate is old and a part of busybox I think.

Regards,
Matthew



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RE: [Leaf-user] Re: Re: Bering with SSH and TinyDNS

2002-03-27 Thread John Stauffer

Matthew,

I do use the hosts file to resolve the names Bering needs to. I'd rather
have the space for sshd and other packages I may need. I haven't used
tinydns for any of my setups since I started using lrp with ppp in 1999.

John

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John Stauffer wrote:
 Hi Matthew-
 
 I have a Win2k server inside my local lan that handles my internal dns

 and forwarding to bering (dnscache) for external addresses.

Roger that.

 My resolv.conf is:
 
 Nameserver 127.0.0.1

But in this case, the LEAF box, using that nameserver,
queries the dnscache for name resolution.  Dnscache
will not have name/address pairs for your internal
lan, and my guess is that when you sit down at the
LEAF and type

nslookup 192.168.x.y

where x and y are replaced with real IP's on your
internal LAN that you don't get an instant response.
Am I correct?  If the lookup does succeed, it probably
is coming from your LEAF /etc/hosts.

I'm just curious because using tinydns takes care
of that, and I faced the same problem recently.

Regards,
Matthew



 If I had to put tinydns on I could take off weblet and just check the 
 logs manually. I did forget that some have to use ppp/pppoe so that 
 will add more packages.
 I usually make a copy of this disk without pump, weblet and some
modules
 that I no longer  need and add ppp for if, more like when with
comcast,
 the cable goes out.
 
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[Leaf-user] Disk Difficulties

2002-03-27 Thread Steve Fink

Jacques et al,


I too had difficulty with needing more space than one diskette would handle
and making a ton of coasters was painful too.  So I went on to try 850mb
hard drives and such...  But this seemed a bit wasteful, 2mb of data on a
850mb hard drive.

I then found some IDE Disk-On-Modules.  They're awesome!  I originally
purchased two Nagasaki 8mb modules ( http://www.nagasaki.com.tw/DOM.htm
purchasable here
http://www.bwi.com/scripts/site/site_category.php3/id/188 )and put them into
my IDE port on the motherboard.  At first I didn't know exactly how to get
things going on them but it's really simple.

Items needed:

1- LRP system (CPU, MEM, MOBO, etc.)
1- Disk On Module ( duh! )
1- Windows 98 Boot disk ( not a Startup Disk, just a plain old boot 
disk )
1- Syslinux Disk w/ syslinux.com ( for DOS ).
http://freshmeat.net/redir/syslinux/10177/url_tgz/syslinux-1.67.tar.gz


Step 1) Boot using the Win 98 boot disk fdisk  format the DOM

Step 2) Reboot

Step 3) typelock c:Enter at the command prompt

Step 4) Insert syslinux disk and typesyslinux this will take a few seconds
and then drop you to a command prompt again.

Step 5) Insert your working LRP disk 1 and typecopy *.* c: it will begin
the copy DO NOT overwrite ldlinux.sys or you're toast.

Step 6) Insert disk 2 ( assuming you have two ) and do the same command
copy *.*

Step 7) Insert disk 1 again and hit reset, we will now boot up to your LRP
firewall

Step 8) Hit q to exit lrcfg and get to the command prompt in your LRP
firewall

Step 9) Type mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt

Step 10) Type edit /mnt/syslinux.cfg change any reference to /dev/fd0 or
/dev/fd0u1680 to /dev/hda1 Ctrl+q to exit y to save.

Step 11) Type umount /mnt

Step 12) Hit Reset

Your new DOM LRP system should boot in about 14 seconds, or at least mine
does and I've got about every package under the sun...


Steve



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[Leaf-user] ssh in Bering

2002-03-27 Thread Jim Van Eeckhoutte

I need help installing sshd in bering . Site info of lrpkg -i
libz,sshd,sshkey doesn't work as far as backing up sshd pkg.


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Re: [Leaf-user] ssh in Bering

2002-03-27 Thread guitarlynn

On Wednesday 27 March 2002 19:59, Jim Van Eeckhoutte wrote:
 I need help installing sshd in bering . Site info of lrpkg -i
 libz,sshd,sshkey doesn't work as far as backing up sshd pkg.


lrpkg -i only loads (installs) the package, you will need to backup
the package from the lrcfg backup menu to keep your changes on
the disk. You will also need to add it to the syslinux.cfg file in
the LRP=.. line.

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RE: [Leaf-user] ssh in Bering

2002-03-27 Thread Jim Van Eeckhoutte

This the problem im having . I cant back it up I get cant move from tmp
dir error.

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On Wednesday 27 March 2002 19:59, Jim Van Eeckhoutte wrote:
 I need help installing sshd in bering . Site info of lrpkg -i
 libz,sshd,sshkey doesn't work as far as backing up sshd pkg.


lrpkg -i only loads (installs) the package, you will need to backup
the package from the lrcfg backup menu to keep your changes on
the disk. You will also need to add it to the syslinux.cfg file in
the LRP=.. line.

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Re: [Leaf-user] Re: Re: Bering with SSH and TinyDNS

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

John Stauffer wrote:
 Matthew,
 
 I do use the hosts file to resolve the names Bering needs to. I'd rather
 have the space for sshd and other packages I may need. I haven't used
 tinydns for any of my setups since I started using lrp with ppp in 1999.
 
 John


Ahaa.  Ok that's what I figured was going on.  When
you connect to your LEAF sshd from your internal LAN,
the sshd does a reverse lookup on the client's ip address.

Does the sshd login delay for 10's of seconds until
it does the lookup from /etc/hosts?

Or do you have your LEAF nsswitch.conf set to look at
hosts first and dns second?

I think it's good to hear how others solve that exact
delay issue I solved by setting up tinydns.
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Re: [Leaf-user] Disk Difficulties

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

Steve Fink wrote:
 Jacques et al,
[snip]

   I then found some IDE Disk-On-Modules.  They're awesome!  I originally
 purchased two Nagasaki 8mb modules ( http://www.nagasaki.com.tw/DOM.htm
 purchasable here
 http://www.bwi.com/scripts/site/site_category.php3/id/188 )and put them into
 my IDE port on the motherboard.  At first I didn't know exactly how to get
 things going on them but it's really simple.
 
   Items needed:
 
   1- LRP system (CPU, MEM, MOBO, etc.)
   1- Disk On Module ( duh! )
   1- Windows 98 Boot disk ( not a Startup Disk, just a plain old boot 
disk )
   1- Syslinux Disk w/ syslinux.com ( for DOS ).
 http://freshmeat.net/redir/syslinux/10177/url_tgz/syslinux-1.67.tar.gz
 
 
   Step 1) Boot using the Win 98 boot disk fdisk  format the DOM
[snip]

 Steve

Excellent write up Steve.  Thanks for posting it.  Have
you considered making into a LEAF document and submitting
it to the project, maybe as a Bering recipe?  Mike Noyes
and the rest of us really like it when people write these up.

It's very on topic these days, even though the info is
similar to the method you'd follow for booting from a
hard drive.

Does anybody think it's redundant?

Thanks again,
Matt


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Re: [Leaf-user] ssh in Bering

2002-03-27 Thread Matt Schalit

Jim Van Eeckhoutte wrote:
 This the problem im having . I cant back it up I get cant move from tmp
 dir error.


Please post the exact error message, plus a listing of what's in
you /tmp directory, plus explain what I get cant move from tmp dir
error means.

Good Luck,
Matt



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Re: [Leaf-user] Disk Difficulties

2002-03-27 Thread Jacques Nilo

Steve:
Thanks for your excellent memo on How-to install Bering on a DOM. In fact I was
having in mind a new chapter of the Bering user's guide named Booting Bering
from alternative medias (apart from CD-Rom for which a specific work is being
prepared Luis C. and some other Bering fellows). May I steal your piece for
that purpose ?
Jacques


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