[LU] Okay, I'll do it

[Jeremy Adams]

No match reports? I guess everyone feels that we all watched the match (which 
I'm sure we did.) My quick observations.

1.Not our best performance but we were miles better than Sheff U and should 
really have been out of sight by the final whistle, We largely controlled the 
game, and I thought our "game management" was better than earlier in the 
season, controlled the flow of the game soaked up whatever little pressure they 
put us under and attacked when we had the opportunities to do so.

2. Llorente is looking very useful. I like Cooper for all his service to the 
club but I think it won't be long before the central pairing will be Llorente 
and Koch (or even Struijk)

3. Top marks to Roberts who has really looked like a premier league player 
these last few outings. At the beginning of the season I never thought he'd cut 
it at this level but full credit to him, he's now looking like a decent premier 
league player.

4. Raphina is the most exciting player we've had in a long time but we all know 
that by now. Yes he was at fault for their goal by trying a fancy flick when 
all he had to do was trap the ball and pass it, but I'll take those little 
errors in exchange for a player who can put defenders on their arse time and 
time again all day long.

5. What was up with Bamford? Is he still carrying an injury? Just didn't look 
up to the pace of the game to me, poorest game he's had in a while but he's 
excused that because he's exceeded all expectations this season for me.

6. Stuart Dallas is a bloody good premier league player.

7. Rodrigo needs a little more game time but I'm convinced he'll soon be 
getting lots of praise from the pundits, just seems a little short of match 
sharpness but his movement is very intelligent.

8. Wasn't that the first time this season we've had all our summer signings on 
the pitch at the same time? If it was I think it says volumes for how we'll 
we've coped this season despite a lot of injuries. Bielsa has somehow managed 
to get even more out of what were once considered pretty average championship 
players.

9. Alioski is still a bang average championship player. I love him but we 
really need a proper left back this summer.

10. That's it from me, got to take my son to school.

Jeremy


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Re: [LU] Villa

[Jeremy Adams]

The epitome of this performance was when, in the 94th minute, we're 3-0 up, we 
still steam forward and have a breakaway where 7 players charge up the pitch 
together and we have a 7v4 situation, as the Villa squad had given up by then. 
If Harrison had just laid it back to one of the 4 players lined along the edge 
of the box it would have been 4-0.

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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 5:01 AM
To: Richard Walker 
Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Villa

Absolutely!

I can't get the image out of my head (not that I'm trying very hard!) of us
streaming forward with 5 or 6 players combining, gorgeous passes and
one-touches, Vanilla players floundering in our wake.

The 1st goal, for example..replays of it only show the move from
near the halfway line, but actually it began right next to our corner flag
with Costa in a tight situation and a difficult bouncing ball. Almost every
other player in the league would have just launched the ball up the
touchline to buy time and let the defence regroup. And every other manager
would have told him to do that. Not Bielsa though. Within seconds, and
probably no more than 10 touches, the ball was in the back of the Vanilla
net!

And yeah, Rodrigo! I would just have had Harrison edging Rodrigo as MoM,
but the Spaniard was superb. And he cost less than Watkins!

Re the 3rd goal..a lot of people have said that Mings was at fault
for not closing Bamford down. But that goal was a vindication of the Bielsa
style. The pass-and-move football we play is so draining on opponents. I
think it was Shackleton who was running in behind Mings. mings expected
Bamford to pass, so he stood off and prepared to slide back to deal with
the pass. And Bamford showed the brilliance there of a good footballer;
following the simple dictum - if you see your opponent expects you to do
one thing, do something else.

So it is quite clear now: the only way to stop this wonderful team of ours
is to adopt the Wigan approach, which is what Wolves did. It will be
fascinating to see if the likes of Leicester & Arse dare to try to attack
us or just sit back in a low block.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Couldn't sleep last night as I reflected on what was in my opinion the
> best Leeds performance since the European games. It was that good and
> there's even an argument to say that the 2nd half was one of the best I've
> ever seen. Some statement but we were that good.
> The way we attacked with pace was devastating and Villa just couldn't live
> with us. Ross Barkley looked like a lower league journeyman as he wasn't
> allowed to have time on the ball and found himself having to do more
> running than he's ever done in his life. He was f*cked. I'd heard a lof
> good things about Luiz and how he conrols the midfield, well he certainly
> didn't know what hit him yesterday. Every time he got the ball, Klich and
> co were on him and his best efforts came from pretending to be fouled.
> Grealish had his moments as he always will but he plays in spurts and isnt
> a great team player. He's also a cheat. The foul by Stujik was a certain
> yellow card but if you watch it, Strujik doesn't make that much contact and
> there's no way it  would have resulted in a player looking like he was dead
> for 5 mins. Also the dive for the pen was disgusting and countless other
> annoyances like keeping hold of the ball and not giving it back when Leeds
> were trying to take a free kick. He just did it to annoy, no other reason.
> Grade A c*nt !
> Anyway, back to us and where do you start ? The inter-play down the left
> between Allioski and Harrison was breathtaking and Matty Cash could only
> wish he was back playing for Forest in the Championship. This is the big
> time Matty and I'm afraid you're not at the races. Harrison terrorised him
> and for once every cross or pass from Harrison was finding its intended
> target and with some better finishing from barn door Bamford we would have
> been 3-0 up in the first half.
> After that yellow card, Struijk was withdrawn after 20 minutes. I don't
> think Bielsa took him off because he was playing badly, I think he took him
> off because Villa were cheating. WIth Luiz and Grealish falling over and
> crying every 5 mins it was only a matter of time before they conned the ref
> into sending Struijk off. A blessing in disguise for me because on came
> Jamie Shackleton for his PL debut. For me this is the game that defined
> Shack. What position suits him best ? is he a defender ? Is he a midfielder
> ? Is he a right back ? Is he a winger? Well, tonight defined him to be a
> player who can harry, tackle, attack with pace, pass the ball and link up
> play all over the park. It also proved that we didn't need Struijk sat in
> front of the back four as a security blanket. Klich came deeper, Rodrigo
> filled in the 

Re: [LU] Another Left-Footed Winger!

[Jeremy Adams]

I think Rodrigo is looking better and better and could switch between a No9 and 
a No10, giving cover for Pablo in the 10 position. Additionally I feel like I 
heard a rumour somewhere that Bielsa is considering Harrison as a possible 10, 
not quite sure I see it myself but IBWT!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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To: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) ; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 

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Subject: Re: [LU] Another Left-Footed Winger!

I think you might be right. At the moment he's playing Roberts for 45 mins, 
then Rodrigo for 45 mins. Maybe he's going to do the same with Costa and 
Raphinha ?
On Tuesday, 6 October 2020, 12:27:54 BST, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 Maybe this is Bielsa acknowledging that a key part of his strategy means 
wingers run themselves into the ground, so he’s doubling up on options. Having 
looked at a couple of Raphinha (sp?) videos, I’d say Alioski and Costa were now 
second choices, and agree that Douglas will probably go, given he’s behind 
Davis too.

The Hernandez/Roberts creativity thing is a potential issue, but MB seems to 
know what he’s up to :-)


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Re: [LU] Team of the week

[Jeremy Adams]

Tad surprised by Harrison TBH. I thought he good a good game but not team of 
the week stuff.



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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:17 PM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: [LU] Team of the week


Three Leeds players - Meslier, Koch, Harrison - in Gareth Crook's Team of the 
Week:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54328590


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Re: [LU] How far in front to be comfortable?

[Jeremy Adams]

We've conceded 7 goals true, but three of those have been penalties. We'll 
tighten that up no problem once our new signings get up to speed with the pace 
of the prem. I think Koch will turn into a real find once he settles in a bit 
more and will make a good partnership with Cooper. Struijk is a nice back up in 
that position or as cover for Phillips. Rodrigo has failed to impress so far 
but again feel he needs time, it's not through lack of effort, he's working 
hard, just doesn't seem in sync with the other players yet.

Maybe a proper left back, I like Dallas but not sure that's his natural 
position. Definitely need a replacement for Pablo, I hope we can land De Paul 
but am glad we're not just throwing money around and are thinking carefully 
about deals. Rumors of Dan James are interesting, maybe as a loan but is he 
better than Costa or Harrison at this point?

Bamford, Costa, Ayling, and Klich have been standouts for me so far. Harrison 
great against Liverpool but quiet against Fulham (though I admit I turned off 
the last twenty minutes!) Phillips solid but lost his man too easily for 
Fulham's second goal which got them back in the game.

Meslier, generally good but still learning, could have done better with 
Fulham's second I thought. Overall though I like him a lot, way better than 
Kiko as we all know by now.

Sheff U will be interesting, hoping for a 0-0 or 1-1 draw. 4 points from every 
3 games throughout the season will be enough to keep us up and that's all I 
care about!

9th place, above Man U and Chelsea, I'll take that any day!


Jeremy






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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 6:41 PM
To: Leeds List 2010 
Subject: [LU] How far in front to be comfortable?

I’m hoping this week we’ll see some transfer interest deliver a player or two, 
but whilst we wait I’m just depressing myself watching MOTD, and thinking 
Vardy, Son - just how do we cope with electric pace, and even quicker thinking? 
It is clear that even being 4-1 up isn’t a comfortable position in this league, 
even against limited opposition. The Sheffield United I remember hopefully 
don’t pose the same threats up front (famous last words), so we maybe have 2 
weeks to sort out the defensive frailties? I wouldn’t have been unhappy 
continuing with the Koch/Struijk centre half pairing tbh - I think Cooper’s 
limited pace will be a big factor in many games.

Winning feels good, but our defence?



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Re: [LU] Kalvin

[Jeremy Adams]

The best bit really about Kalvin getting called up is that there's no call up 
for Grealish. Chuffed for Kalvin though, couldn't have happened to a nicer kid, 
bet his Nan is made up.

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Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin

Well done to the kid but this is a bit of a joke. Mind you Carlton Palmer and 
Denis Wise played for England. Hope for me yet.


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On Tuesday, August 25, 2020, 5:18 pm, nattan--- via Leedslist 
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Well done to Kalvin on his England call up , deserved but also a bit of a 
surprise and something no one could have ever imagined pre Bielsa
Dave
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[LU] Benhrama and Watkins

[Jeremy Adams]

Well judging by that play off final, even though they'll now most likely be 
available, I'm not sure we necessarily want either Benhrama or Ollie Watkins, 
neither managed to make an impact on such an important game. I also think 
Fulham will struggle pretty badly in the premier league, but then again I 
thought Sheff U were going to go straight back down so what the f*ck do I know.

Felt bad for Jansson but for some reason I really don't like that Brentford 
manager for reasons I know not why. It'll be interesting to see if they can 
mount a challenge again next season. Of the three going down I don't feel any 
of them are strong favorites to go straight back up.


Best,

Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Cardiff - here we go again

[Jeremy Adams]

Yeah but Philips is fucking dynamite on FIFA20.

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Subject: Re: [LU] Cardiff - here we go again

As you know, Philips being the first name on the team sheet really pisses me 
off. Yes, he's improved and he has qualities for certain matches and certain 
periods within matches that at this level are required. However, I still think 
that he's a mid table, championship footballer and building a team around him 
strolling around the park and taking every set piece is just short sighted. His 
performance against Cardiff summed this up perfectly. His set pieces were poor 
and he struggled to make an impact on the game. His only real contribution was 
giving the ball away with a lazy pass for their goal.
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 14:22:03 BST, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 I’ve always thought, and still think this, that Shackleton should be on the 
team-sheet every week - he’s like a little Batty energy-wise. For all Philips’ 
defensive cover, he is very slow. With Roberts and Klich in the middle too we 
were lightweight.

Bloody football!

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> On 23 Jun 2020, at 18:41, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)  
> wrote:
>
>
> I thought I’d replied to this at the time, but it still stands.
> John wrote: --
>
>
> The positives: we look fit; lots of possession; ppromotion-wise we’re not 
> really any worse off than yesterday
>
> The negatives: never really looked like scoring (despite the stats); 2 sh*t 
> defensive passes cost us 2 goals; Roberts - lightweight and ineffective; 
> Bamford - awful first touch and jinxed by bad luck; Poveda - why?; all-round 
> passing - sloppy as hell
> --
>
> It is just like we’ve never been away.  I try to see the good in Costa and 
> Bamford, but it is just so outweighed by the bad that I’m oblivious to it.
> The rest of them, even Harrison usually get into the credit column.
>
> It must be worrying for Douglas if he is fit, that he is behind both Alioski 
> and Davis as Left back cover.  Perhaps it’s Alioski’s creative spark that 
> gets him in!!??
>
> Your lad Edmondson has to be worth a place on a bench of 9.  Could he 
> possibly do worse than a knackered Bamford in the last 10 – 15 mins.
>
> In that sort of game we rely on Pablo either scoring himself, or laying on 
> the kind of chance that even those Donkeys can put away.
>
> We need him badly next week, instead of Bamford or Costa I don’t care which.
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Re: [LU] The Lard Update

[Jeremy Adams]

No think Maggie has gone, along with Voicey, King of Tonga, Adie Turford, and 
some Noggie called Karl who I took the train back from Leicester with (and I 
think used to supply whale meat though I may be conflating two Noggies.)
What was the name of the bloke who was of Indian/Asian descent that played 
striker for the Lards at Leicester and Bodington Hall?

From: Richard Naef 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:24 AM
To: Jeremy Adams ; John Boocock ; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: RE: [LU] The Lard Update

One of my regrets is that I never made it to any Lards events - if only to 
disprove your "everyone a true gent"  thesis. Is Maggie still on the list?

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 24 April 2020 13:42
To: John Boocock ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] The Lard Update

Thanks John,

My two experiences at WorldNet were fantastic, met many people I had only ever 
known virtually through this list and every one of them was a true gent. Was a 
spectator at Leicester (though got to play one friendly) and then played at the 
one at Bodington Hall. I remember Damian Walsh providing much charcuterie and 
much booze both before and after games, its a miracle any Lards games got 
played! Maggie Barber drove me up to Leeds for the second one, his car kept 
overheating so we had to drive with the heat turned up full blast to try and 
pull heat away from the engine, it was a boiling hot day in July as I remember.

If any listers have any photos from WorldNet I'd love to see them. This was of 
course before the days of smartphones sp pictures may be hard to come by.

Best

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:42 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] The Lard Update

Hi Jeremy.


Unfortuantely not but I am scouring the archives for pictures at the moment if 
I find owt good I'll be sharing!


Betty


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> Got any more years John? I was at the Leicester one (the next year I
> think) and then the one at Leeds Uni.
> --
> --
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Re: [LU] The Lard Update

[Jeremy Adams]

Thanks John,

My two experiences at WorldNet were fantastic, met many people I had only ever 
known virtually through this list and every one of them was a true gent. Was a 
spectator at Leicester (though got to play one friendly) and then played at the 
one at Bodington Hall. I remember Damian Walsh providing much charcuterie and 
much booze both before and after games, its a miracle any Lards games got 
played! Maggie Barber drove me up to Leeds for the second one, his car kept 
overheating so we had to drive with the heat turned up full blast to try and 
pull heat away from the engine, it was a boiling hot day in July as I remember.

If any listers have any photos from WorldNet I'd love to see them. This was of 
course before the days of smartphones sp pictures may be hard to come by.

Best

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:42 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] The Lard Update

Hi Jeremy.


Unfortuantely not but I am scouring the archives for pictures at the
moment if I find owt good I'll be sharing!


Betty


On 23/04/2020 14:31, Jeremy Adams wrote:
> Got any more years John? I was at the Leicester one (the next year I
> think) and then the one at Leeds Uni.
> 
>
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Re: [LU] The Lard Update

[Jeremy Adams]

Got any more years John? I was at the Leicester one (the next year I think) and 
then the one at Leeds Uni.

From: John Boocock 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:14 PM
To: Jeremy Adams ; ni...@sykesonline.com 
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Subject: The Lard Update


Here it is, finally... 
https://youtu.be/XlRwfvGtufw<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FXlRwfvGtufw=02%7C01%7C%7Cf87cae082907476e19ca08d7e56fdb03%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637230140883107738=l9%2BrvhRfz88rEHXLfFY1%2FTeYKDshHFlTP0T%2Bfn5iRUQ%3D=0>

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Re: [LU] The Lards

[Jeremy Adams]

where's your website?


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Subject: Re: [LU] The Lards

It is youtube and the muzak. Going to put it on my website.Sent from my 
Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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23:14  (GMT+00:00) To: 'John Boocock' , leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: RE: [LU] The Lards Video unavailableThis video contains content from 
Muyap. It is not available in your country.:(Bloody Brexit!Nigel(the Dublin 
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Re: [LU] easy LUFC quiz

[Jeremy Adams]

Didn't know where Cooper had come from, shame on me.


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Subject: [LU] easy LUFC quiz

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I'd have got 8/8 if I'd used a managers real name rather than the anagram.

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Re: [LU] So...........

[Jeremy Adams]

If the season is cancelled and we stay in the Championship, besides all the 
obvious loss of revenue from being in the prem, won't we also get less 
sponsorship money from Adidas? Wasn't the kit sponsorship amount dependent on 
whether we were in the prem or championship?



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Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 7:39 AM
To: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] So...

I see the RFU have, effectively, suspended all rugby except the
Premiership and will update on what they will do "To be fair to all"
about standings …
I'd heard a football season can be deemed complete, providing 90% of
fixtures had been completed. I haven't time to read it verbatim, but
cannot find anything in the EFL rules to suggest this. Is it true? Can
we find out? IF (Big if) this is the case, we only need to play 4 games
don't we? If the current state is extended, I would suggest the 'best
case scenario' with all the complications around players contracts and
knock on effect to next season would be to play games behind closed
doors through May and June, obviously ensuring tests are carried out on
all players and staff before each game. Then, once we get past 4 games,
we can trigger that ruling (If it exists of course!)

IF it get's to the state whereby games simply cannot be played, we are
then looking at a cancellation aren't we?

We can at least talk about it can't we, amidst the boredom!?

StigAtTheLifeIsSoooDullWithoutSportDump




On 2020-03-19 17:53, Richard Naef wrote:
> There are many options, but no point in making any decisions until
> things are clearer.  Personally I think the suggestion of delaying the
> start of the next season until, lets say, 1st Jan 2021 has some merit.
> Of course it's not without major hurdles, but then so are all the
> options.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Heath
> Sent: 19 March 2020 15:45
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] So...
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Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

[Jeremy Adams]

Oddly enough it seemed like a bunch of Cardiff fans celebrated Leeds' 3rd goal, 
so maybe they were Leeds in disguise.

From: Tim Whelan 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:12 AM
To: ni...@sykesonline.com ; 'leeds list' 
; Jeremy Adams 
Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

Did FIFA show any Leeds fans getting thrown out for celebrating the goals while 
in one of the 'home' stands?

On Monday, 16 March 2020, 02:11:20 GMT, Jeremy Adams 
 wrote:


I actually watched the game, Bamford was outstanding, had a couple of other 
decent chances. i.e. totally unrealistic. Our build up play was very typical 
though and Ayling seemed to be everywhere so some things were lifelike.


Jeremy


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Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

And thus it is proved that letting FIFA decide the rest of the season is not a 
valid idea - as if Bamford would have score 2 today in real life!

Nigel
(the increasingly locked-down Dublin one)

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Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...






3-1 Leeds. 2 for Bamford, free kick from Harrison



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Did we win?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message 
From: "James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist"  Date: 15/03/2020  19:29 
 (GMT+00:00) To: LeedsList  Subject: [LU] FIFA 20... Leeds attract 50,000 
online viewers with FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff match after coronavirus 
postponement| | | |  |  | | || |  | Leeds attract 50,000 online viewers with 
FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff m...Leeds United tackled their postponed 
Championship game against Cardiff by simulating the game on FIFA 20 instead. | 
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Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

[Jeremy Adams]

I actually watched the game, Bamford was outstanding, had a couple of other 
decent chances. i.e. totally unrealistic. Our build up play was very typical 
though and Ayling seemed to be everywhere so some things were lifelike.


Jeremy


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Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...

And thus it is proved that letting FIFA decide the rest of the season is not a 
valid idea - as if Bamford would have score 2 today in real life!

Nigel
(the increasingly locked-down Dublin one)

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Subject: Re: [LU] FIFA 20...






 3-1 Leeds. 2 for Bamford, free kick from Harrison



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Did we win?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message 
From: "James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist"  Date: 15/03/2020  19:29 
 (GMT+00:00) To: LeedsList  Subject: [LU] FIFA 20... Leeds attract 50,000 
online viewers with FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff match after coronavirus 
postponement| | | |  |  | | || |  | Leeds attract 50,000 online viewers with 
FIFA 20 simulation of Cardiff m...Leeds United tackled their postponed 
Championship game against Cardiff by simulating the game on FIFA 20 instead. | 
| |Am I the only person hereabouts who has NEVER played FIFA ever?In 
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Re: [LU] shoot rich and wap

[Jeremy Adams]

We can't even seem to hit the target from two yards out, let alone shooting 
from outside the box.  I think we didn't concede yesterday because we didn't 
concede a corner the whole game!

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I'm not so sure I want our players trying potshots from outside the box. Very, 
very few of them seem to have the ability to hit the target from there. Dallas 
and Alioski are major offenders - each of them is good for at least one shot 
from outside the box that flies over the bar each game. I'm not sure either of 
them have even hit the target from that range this season, let alone scored. 
I'd leave it to Pablo, at most. What we're not good at doing is shooting on 
sight from inside the box - Costa had an opportunity to do that yesterday and 
passed instead. Bamford sometimes does the same, when he's not shooting tamely 
at the keeper.
Cheers!
Sean

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Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2020 9:42 am
Subject: [LU] shoot rich and wap

interested that Slavan Bilic this week told WBA to start shooting from
outside the box due to their diminishing 'efficiency'.  Seemed that really
only our full backs (and CFs) were keen to have potshots, and reasonably
close to target. Was everyone else blocked off? Are we coached to keep
passing till a clear chance emerges? are the others getting a bit scared to
miss?

read a report masquerading under the name of Rich Walker - what have you
done with the real RW? (good report - essential reading as always and great
to see you pleased with the team!).Did you hear the Robins commentator
claim Bill's goal was how a Centre Forward should seize his opportunities?

Betty's What'sApp link told me to go away.  Is there a magic trick?

Cheers
Niffit
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[LU] JKA

[Jeremy Adams]

Just watched the first half of the U23's against Derby (we're losing 2-1). If 
Augustin is the answer then the question can only be "who is 3 yards off the 
pace, has the first touch of a rapist and looks like he'll never get anywhere 
near the first team?"

Looks like we'll be relying on Paddy to see us through.

Best,

jeremy

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Re: [LU] Good quiz

[Jeremy Adams]

10 out of 20 for me.

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Subject: [LU] Good quiz

(and interesting answers)

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Re: [LU] Wigan

[Jeremy Adams]

It does seem the FA are dragging this out, it's almost like they want him to 
keep playing for Leeds so he can fuck up and we'll stay in the Championship!

From: Leedslist  on behalf of David Nattan 

Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 7:28 AM
To: Scott1cairns1 
Cc: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Wigan

He is of course facing a possible minimum 6 game ban if and when his racism 
case is finalised

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Feb 2020, at 11:37, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
>
> Thanks for report
> Kiko gotta go.
> Really really gotta go before he fucks the whole thing up.
>
> Best regards,Scott.
>
>> On 2 Feb 2020, at 10:11, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>>
>> This time yesterday I was buzzing,  walking round the house humming and 
>> singing Leeds songs, full of joy and optimism Today the total opposite,  I 
>> have a face like thunder, totally miserable and trying not to let the cat 
>> get near me just in caseI know it is only a game and there is lot more 
>> football to be played etc but this is as bad as I have been since, well, 
>> Wigan last season
>> Of the 46 league games we had to play this season if I had to put my house 
>> on winning one particular game, it would have been Wigan at home as revenge 
>> for ruining our hopes last time
>> Whilst not quite carrying on from where we left off v Millwall,  we did 
>> start brightly,  getting at them and creating chances. Harrison had a 
>> brilliant dribbling run in the box beating half their team but his shot hit 
>> the post. Unlucky,  but this was followed by 2 awful misses. A lovely cut 
>> back fell to Bamford,  all he had to do was put it on target, but somehow he 
>> contrived to miss the ball altogether with a horrendous air shot. Then 
>> Harrison ran along their goal line but somehow failed to bother to put it in 
>> but instead ran it past the post where he then back heeled it , very odd ( I 
>> need to see it again on tv). Then Dallas and Alioski both blasted shots over 
>> the bar as we ended the half 0 0
>> Anyone who has been following us under Bielsa will not have had to know the 
>> score to know what happened next when I say , we should have been 2 or 3 up 
>> but it was still 0 0 when they got a corner!
>> This one was beyond bizarre though as the ball hit Pablo , our first man, 
>> ballooned into the air , got caught in the swirling wind and was somehow 
>> missed on the line by Kiko. A fluke of the highest order, but the tosser who 
>> 'scored' ran the width of the pitch and had a diving celebration as if he 
>> had meant it. The ineffectual ref let them celebrate as if it they had all 
>> the time in the world.
>> From then on there was an air of predictable inevitability about the game,as 
>> we huffed and puffed to little effect as they defended like we used to under 
>> Monk, and coupled that with general time wasting and shit- housery.  The ref 
>> stopping the game for injuries that were neither head injuries nor serious!
>> The crowd grew more and more restless as Bamford had a free header saved and 
>> Harrison and Bamford (?) had efforts cleared off the line, although in truth 
>> that sounds more dramatic than it was.
>> Tyler Roberts came on and did ok but the fans wanted little Ian to see if he 
>> is magic,  and even more BigKev to give that boost and maybe even the goal 
>> we needed. But Bielsa being Beilsa refused to bring Poveda on and couldn't 
>> bring Augustin on since he was not even on the bench!
>> So we fell to yet another unwarranted and needless home defeat against a 
>> shit team who fluked a goal and then defended manfully.  It could have been 
>> worse as twice our gung-ho attitude let them have great breakaways but White 
>> saved us both times
>> It was a disgruntled crowd that left ER and I heard the following players 
>> abused and told they were shit and / or should never play again- Bamford,  
>> Costa, Harrison, Pablo, Kiko and Ayling
>> Also and perhaps for the first time (Toe excepted) I heard genuine criticism 
>> of Beilsa and his stubborn attitude.  We all understand the 'process' and 
>> that players have to be Bielsa fit and in tune with our game but his 
>> reluctance to give the new players a chance was heavily criticised.  With 7 
>> subs, 2 of whom had no real chance of  being called upon, why was there not 
>> space for Augustin? Plus how long does Poveda need to wait before he can be 
>> trusted for 10 or 15mins? Minutes when his supposed skill and 
>> unpredictability could have unlocked their defence? Will this criticism and 
>> the inevitable questioning by the press make him more likely to dig his 
>> heels in and do the same next week?
>> We now do genuinely have 2 games that will define our season, 2 must win or 
>> at least must not lose games. We are capable of winning both but only if we 
>> take our chances and defend corners
>> So all in all a miserable day out
>> Dsve
>>
>> Sent from Sky Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 

Re: [LU] What difference a week makes

[Jeremy Adams]

We were awful that first half. Ben white has had his worst game in a Leeds 
shirt, not his fault, he's just not ready to play that position. Hudds are up 
for it and we're second to every ball. Hopefully we can pick it up second half.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:48 AM
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] What difference a week makes

Last game we were all happy how strong our bench looked,  today we have 4 
players without a ,minutes first team football between them, Maxiak, Gotts, 
Casey and Hosannah, plus 2 very inexperienced players in Clarke and Nketiah who 
have barely started a game and the as yet, underwhelming Douglas
Bad that Cooper is out today
We really need a good start and to score early otherwise with them being so up 
for it,  it could be a tough afternoon
Dave

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Re: [LU] Top of the League

[Jeremy Adams]

I think last season we never expected to be where we were but this year we all 
secretly expect us to be in the top 2.


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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:34 PM
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; Nicholas Armit 
Subject: Re: [LU] Top of the League

Funnily enough we're better off this year than last, though for some reason it 
feels like we should be worse off.

Maybe the Bielsa buzz and weird feeling that we were actually good made us 
unable to see some shortcomings.  Now, we know we are good and take a lot of 
our success for granted.



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Subject: Re: [LU] Top of the League

Isn't that where we were last Christmas?
On Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 06:57:48 PM EST, Richard Naef 
 wrote:


Baggies next 3 games are against top 6 teams, ours are against bottom half.  
Could be 10 points ahead of them by xmas- LOL
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Re: [LU] Home Games

[Jeremy Adams]

Is Leeds United Americas able to help with tickets?

Best,

Jeremy


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Subject: Re: [LU] Home Games

Thanks Rich so even as a Gold Member is it a bit of a lottery even getting 
tickets or just difficult to get tickets together?
Nick
On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 02:50:09 PM EST, Richard walker 
 wrote:

 It’s bloody difficult to arrange tickets. I’m a Gold member and so are some of 
my mates and we have to coordinate on Monday mornings to ensure we can get a 
block of tickets together. I’ve tried to link memberships through the friends 
and family but when I came to check out with more than one ticket it won’t let 
you. The website reckons you can block up to 50 tickets like this but I haven’t 
had time to take this up with them.

The only solution is to get a season ticket but with working away sometimes and 
family it’s not possible to get to all games. I’ve never known demand like 
this. Good for the club though.

If you’re not a Gold member I’d forget it.

> On 10 Nov 2019, at 18:25, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
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> so for those of you who aren't season ticket holders how hard has it been to 
> get tickets for home games? Trying to plan a trip home but if can't get 
> tickets will forget it.
> Nick
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Re: [LU] Kiko

[Jeremy Adams]

Some claim he used the spanish word for black, negro or negrito when asking his 
defenders to mark the player, i.e., mark the black bloke. This would be enough 
to be deemed racist by the FA I think they have found the use of that spanish 
word racist in the past and punished players. If that's how he used it I would 
defend the club defending him. However, it seems a little suspect to me that 
Kiko would be speaking to his team mates in Spanish during a game. Since the 
club are defending him in the appeal I suspect they'll defend him if he loses 
the appeal.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:23 AM
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] Kiko

I see Kiko has been nominated as  Fans championship player of the month. Well 
deserved for his performances and clean sheets but dodgy timing with racist 
abuse charge
Just read Phil Hay on Forestieri case, like John Terry, he was acquitted in 
court but found guilty by FA due to the burden of proof being different ( 
beyond reasonable doubt as versus balance of probabilities) With Forestieri the 
victim reacted at the time and there was a huge brawl, with kiko first anyone 
knew was in post match interview and a cryptic question and answer,  Lee Bowyer 
said at time he knew nothing
Big worry for kiko is that after all investigations the same body who will hear 
the case (? different people?) found case to answer
I hope the club are preparing for the worse behind the scenes
IF guilty and in no way am I pre-judging it, he will get a minimum 6 game ban 
but the question will be should the club stick by him or sack him. In the past 
I was of the old Wilko school " I would pick Genghis Khan if he stopped us 
conceding at corners" and I had this view re Bowyer/ Woodgate and indeed Lee 
Hughes etc , albeit I sang 'murderer's at him, I would have had no problem us 
buying him if good enough.  My views have changed a bit now and, IF guilty I 
would support the club sacking him. Bielsa and his morals  may came into it , 
would he have to go against his own principles about society being more 
important than football or will he go along the cop out, a racist nsult during 
an argument does mean someone is actually a racist ? Which to be honest is true.
Whatever it is typical Leeds and our uncanny ability to self destruct
Dave
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Re: [LU] Things that make you feel old

[Jeremy Adams]

Here's an article from the Guardian about the lad.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/18/erling-braut-haaland-red-bull-salzburg-champions-league-hat-trick

Says he wants to win the premier league with Leeds

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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:30 AM
To: Joe Skinner 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Things that make you feel old

And all the idiots on alaw Facebook group want us to sign him!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Sep 2019, at 08:34, Joe Skinner  wrote:
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> Alf inge Haland’s son scored a hat trick in the CL last night...
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Re: [LU] Brentford

[Jeremy Adams]

I thought Bamford made a good run to drag a defender with him to create space. 
What happened though was he dragged two defenders with him, one of the 
Brentford defenders got sucked in when he shouldn't have and that left Eddie 
free. Most goals are down to a defensive mistake, I felt Bamford created that 
mistake with his run and Eddie made an intelligent run to capitalize on it.

I'd like to see them both together, Bielsa's plan was to have Roofe and Bamford 
together wasnt it? I think Eddie and Paddie could do a job together.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of seanscribe--- via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:59 AM
To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk ; nat...@sky.com 

Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Rich,
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But if you look at the goal again, 
Bamford's not really "marked." He moves into space for Costa to cut the ball 
back to him, but Costa chose the arguably more difficult pass, threading it 
past two retreating defenders to the waiting Nketiah.Bamford's movement made 
one of the defenders check back a half step, which made the difference. Great 
goal, and one that I hope we recreate on a regular basis.

Cheers!
Sean

-Original Message-
From: Richard walker via Leedslist 
To: nat...@sky.com 
Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2019 2:34 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Brentford

Few thoughts.

Good win against a lively Brentford team who were unlucky not to be 1 up at 
half time due to the woodwork. It was a fast paced, frantic game of low 
quality, especially from us at times. We gave the ball away time after time 
after getting in good positions. Pablo had his worst game for Leeds before 
being dragged off. He hardly contributed and when he did get the ball he 
frequently gave it away. Hopefully he’ll be back on song at the weekend but 
overalll his distribution has to improve.
I think Harrison’s position in the team is questionable with Costa breathing 
down his neck. For me Harrison has seen a lot the ball this season but hasn’t 
really produced. I thought he was poor last night and although it’s always 
easier coming on as a sub Costa has a yard extra of pace and acceleration.

Observation on the goal - as Costa breaks down the wing Bamford moves 
instinctively to the front post where he is marked, Eddie instinctively ghosts 
out to the back post unmarked. Easy pass to Eddie and goal and the very clear 
difference in natural goal poacher v unnatural goal poacher. Is there room for 
2 strikers ? I think so. For me Eddie cannot sit on the bench. He offers us 
something that we currently don’t have.

So good win but that’s the second time at home that we’ve struggled. You could 
say that Forest and Brentford might be play off contenders and they’re good 
wins or you could say that we’re not firing at home yet.

Still top of the league and unbeaten.



> On 22 Aug 2019, at 06:53, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> Costa to Nketiah and GOAL Commentators had better get used to saying that as 
> our 2 new players combined again
> Over 35,000 fans ,for a game that would have been lucky to attract 20,000 a 
> few seasons ago,  24 years after Yeboah thunderbolt, saw new boy Eddie tap in 
> from a yard, but his goal was all about anticipation awareness and being 
> right place right time
> This could be the difference this season - players on the bench who can come 
> on and make a difference
> First half was very even as they chased and harried us at every turn and we 
> missed that zip and sharpness. They had the best 2 chances, a shot that hit 
> the post when we allowed their midfielder time and space,  then a close range 
> shot that Kiko saved.
> Our main efforts were mis directed headers
> 2nd half they could not keep it up and we camped in their half but only 
> created half chances. Bielsa subbed pablo & Harrison both ineffectual on the 
> night and brought on Costa and Eddie.
> Costa got to the byline and put in a sublime cross and Eddie became an 
> instant hero
> The crowd chanted Eddie  Eddie Eddie but followed it up with a song for 
> Bamford who had led the line well and put in the effort
> So we turned a draw last season into a win and sent 35k fa s home happy (I 
> have heard Swansea game is sold out with 10 days to go)
> As for pontus, he ignored us and we ignored him- game wise I hardly noticed 
> him, whereas Ben white was excellent again
> Dave
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Re: [LU] LU: Take Us Home

[Jeremy Adams]

I've just got episode 6 to go.

Yes it's basically a puff piece to make Radrizzani look good (fair enough, he's 
paying for it!), also makes Orta look like a die hard Leeds fan, but it's 
better than watching Love Island or Come dancing.

Bielsa has rarely given interviews beyond a press conference so I wasn't really 
expecting him to feature that much.

Why is there absolutely nothing about Samu Saiz suddenly leaving? Seems like 
they have deliberately erased that from history.

How did they select the Leeds fans to follow? None of them were really that 
interesting, the one I liked the best was Arvid Singh in episode 5 who'd come 
over for his first game, that was an interesting story. I would have liked a 
bit more background about the fans they followed, why they supported Leeds, 
where they were from, how it affects their lives etc. etc.

Anyway, I'm hoping part two is better and isn't just another "Titanic 2"

Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Guy Thornton 

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:13 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Take Us Home

Interesting.
I've seen various reviews and comments about the documentary. Some good, some 
less so. One of the
criticisms was a lack of Bielsa, at least talking.

The problem is how to watch it? I know it's on Amazon Prime which I don't have 
and anyway someone here has
just tried taking out a trial subscription to Amazon Prime Video in order to 
watch it only to get the message 'This
title isn't available in your location.'

guy

On 21 Aug 2019 at 1:38, seanscribe--- via Leedslist wrote:

> So I finally finished the documentary this evening. It's very moving
> and I would recommend it. A few observations: - It's clearly not a
> completely independent production. While there are controversial
> episodes covered (Bamford's feigning getting whacked against Villa,
> Spygate, etc. etc.) there's very little new information revealed about
> these. (For instance, a more "newsy" documentary might have
> interviewed the intern/employee who actually did the spying against
> Derby.) Some important episodes are completely omitted. (For example,
> there is absolutely no mention of Jack Clarke's bizarre collapse on
> the bench at 'Boro, let alone an explanation of what caused it, beyond
> the vague "virus" that the club belatedly told us about.)  - The series
> does not go into great detail about most of the squad or the backroom
> team. There's no mention of the under-23s winning the national
> championship, no real discussion of Carlos Corberan, Jack Clarke,
> Jamie Shackleton, etc. - It's a brilliant portrayal of the human side
> of the club: players, management and supporters. You'd need the
> proverbial heart of stone not to be affected by the scenes of the
> players and backroom staff in tears after the last Derby game. In
> particular, I came away with new respect for Kalvin Phillips, Liam
> Cooper, Marcelo Bielsa, Victor Orta, Angus Kinnear and Andrea
> Radrizzani. One can criticize various personnel decisions that Orta
> made, particularly in his first season, but watching him crying after
> the Derby game, one can't question his commitment. That guy cares.
> Also, the scenes with Bob Tappin made it worth the price (okay, it was
> free with Amazon Prime) on their own. Anyway, I came away feeling even
> more proud to be a Leeds United supporter, which I didn't think was
> possible after all these years.


> Cheers!
> Sean
>
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Re: [LU] Eddie Nketiah

[Jeremy Adams]

Isn't the philosophy to invest in youth players who come in for a year and play 
with the U23's, get the feel of the team and then step up, like Bogusz and Tun 
whatshisname?

Quite honestly I dont care how we do it but if we can continue to play like we 
did at Bristol City and for large parts of last season I'll be happy with that 
and I think it will give us a good chance of getting promoted.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 7:31 AM
To: Richard Walker ; leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 

Subject: Re: [LU] Eddie Nketiah

Well our "best" defender (for whom only received offers from Brentford) been 
replaced by White.  Roofe wanted to go, and we've got a highly thought of 
player highest scorer in Premier League U23.  Clarke has been loaned back to 
us.  Costa bought in and a few U23 look like they might step up.  By all means 
criticise, but why not wait until a few matches.  Bielsa believes in a small 
squad and believes that the dangers of that are less than the benefits.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Richard Walker via 
Leedslist
Sent: 08 August 2019 11:36
To: Leeds leedslist ; ejwalsh 
Subject: Re: [LU] Eddie Nketiah

 If this kid and the keeper are only signings today questions have to be asked. 
Our best defender, top goalscorer and best youngster sold for millions to be 
replaced by an Arsenal U-23 loanee who is apparently a wonderkid but has only 
played 8 times for Arsenal in the last 2 years. I'd be pretty disgusted by 
that. Still a few hours to go though so I'll save my criticism till then.

On Thursday, 8 August 2019, 11:13:03 BST, ejwalsh  wrote:

 Looks like he is on the way to Leeds for the season.
Apparently the Arsenal fans rate him very highly.
Good work by Orta.
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Re: [LU] Documentary video

[Jeremy Adams]

Does a cat bounce if no one is around to witness it?

From: Richard Naef 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:10 PM
To: Joe Skinner ; Jeremy Adams 
; Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) ; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: Re: [LU] Documentary video

The cat bounces every number of times from 0 to infinity, until some idiot 
opens the box and gets a face full of seriously pissed off cat.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Joe Skinner 

Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:29:13 PM
To: Jeremy Adams ; Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) 
; leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Documentary video

If you don’t have any downs, the ups are a bit pointless.

Although even a dead cat bounces, or whatever the idiom is.

Does Schrödinger's cat bounce twice?

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From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 25 July 2019 14:26
To: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) ; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Documentary video

It's not as bad as the Sunderland one where they started by talking about an 
immediate return to the premier league and then ended up getting relegated to 
league 1!

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Kevin Lewis (UK 
SBS) 
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To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Documentary video

I don't think I could bear to watch it.
Seems a particularly Leeds thing to do, produce a programme highlighting a 
collapse!
Most supporters of other teams will have a right laugh.  Why not go the whole 
hog and have a series highlighting all the disappointments of the last 55 years?

I remember Steve Bruce's private video of Scum's 1993 title win hitting the 
headlines.  He must have done one the previous year, when they blew it, but 
sensibly that never saw the light of day.

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Re: [LU] Documentary video

[Jeremy Adams]

It's not as bad as the Sunderland one where they started by talking about an 
immediate return to the premier league and then ended up getting relegated to 
league 1!

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Subject: Re: [LU] Documentary video

I don't think I could bear to watch it.
Seems a particularly Leeds thing to do, produce a programme highlighting a 
collapse!
Most supporters of other teams will have a right laugh.  Why not go the whole 
hog and have a series highlighting all the disappointments of the last 55 years?

I remember Steve Bruce's private video of Scum's 1993 title win hitting the 
headlines.  He must have done one the previous year, when they blew it, but 
sensibly that never saw the light of day.

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Re: [LU] Quiet List

[Jeremy Adams]

I think for me the issue this year is that there's actual hope, which fills me 
with fear and trepidation. Last year I knew next to nothing about Bielsa, so 
was just hoping we had an okay season, and making the play offs was my ultimate 
goal but I was ready to accept mid season mediocrity. This season I actually 
expect us to be in a promotion battle and anything less than that is going to 
be a disappointment. I suspect this season will go one of two ways, we'll 
either walk this league in style, with Bamford banging them in for fun while 
strumming on his harpischord, or it will all go pear shaped by the end of 
November and Bielsa will walk before Christmas with us in a relegation 
dogfight. I can't see there being anything in between those two extremes!

Jeremy

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Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:24 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet List

Been thinking the same myself Kev. The quiet before the storm?

The heart and head thing. On the one hand I feel quietly confident we're going 
to build on last season and this
will be it, direct promotion. On the other hand there is a certain nervousness 
about it all that we don't really seen
to have done much, at least enough.

Looking through your mail I can go along with your comments. Also it's so warm 
and sticky at the moment not
sure I can think of any original ones of my own.

guy

On 23 Jul 2019 at 12:14, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) wrote:

> Hi all,
> The list  has been quiet for the last few days considering the season is 
> approaching. Is this in trepidation or quiet confidence?
>
> I must admit that I'm getting a bit worried at the lack of signings in 
> positions we know need strengthening.  Whilst it is good to see that the U23 
> squad is being bolstered.  I'd like to see some progress in getting proven 
> players in.
> He has als got rid of a lot of players he did not like, which should free up 
> a bit of cash for wages.
>
> Priorities as I see it are:
>
> 1.   Jansson replacement like-for-like.
>
> 2.   Striker.  Roofe has done OK, but seems to be fragile.  Bamford is 
> very streaky.  Has spell where everything goes in, then others where he 
> misses everything.
>
> 3.   Goalkeeper. It looks like Casilla will get another chance, but 
> Peacock-Farrell could be on the way out.
>
> 4.   Left-Back. Douglas has to step up a bit in terms of form and 
> fitness.  Are any of Davis, Pearce, Alioski capable of stepping in over a 
> long period?
>
> Phillips staying is still far from 100%, and given the external interest in 
> Roofe, his injury could be a blessing in disguise.  Whoever comes in now will 
> not have much time to be indoctrinated by Bielsa.
>
> Overall I think the attack is slightly stronger than last year, due to Costa, 
> and the defence slightly weaker, without Jansson.
>
> Hopefully not too many of the youngsters will show a 2nd season dip.  
> Harrison and Bogusz seem to be laying down markers in the pre-season games.
>
>
> KOT.
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Re: [LU] Guiseley

[Jeremy Adams]

Yes the first half and the beginning of the second half we moved the ball 
around but to no effect whatsoever, just back and forth and their defence just 
sat their happily and watched.
Costa does look like he will offer something creatively going forward. White 
does look good going forward and Davis seemed solid to me.
Phillips looked like a player distracted by contract negotiations, whether 
those negotiations are with Leeds, Villa, Newcastle, or Spurs etc. etc. I have 
no idea but his mind didn't really seem on the game.
Harrison was the standout in the first game for me.
Apparently a few fans at Guiseley giving Bamford a hard time which seems 
stupid. Give the lad a fresh start FFS and see if he can get going before you 
start slagging him off.

My guess is we're either going to walk this league or we are going to fall 
apart early doors and Bielsa will walk by Christmas. Can't see this being a 
mediocre season!

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 5:23 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Guiseley

Agree first half was dreadful - very odd line up with no centre forward - why 
no Edmondson ?- also I read that Ayling had a knock but unless I am wrong Tyler 
Roberts does not appear to have played in either gameThe lack of a striker 
really showed as we failed, despite a lot of possession, to have a shot first 
half , it was all pass, pass , pass as they moved it from one to another on the 
edge of the box.
It was a pre season friendly so miles too soon to draw any conclusions at all - 
having said that Harrison is getting rave reviews over his performance at York 
- scoring 2 and being heavily involved in 2 more (I have only seem the goals)On 
very early showing Costa did nothing first half but improved a lot after the 
break, a couple of quality bits of play including his goal and his part in our 
winner, a lovely finish by Bogusz.
White looked great with the ball at his feet but did not over impress 
defensively
Miazek - our keeper for the second half looked great at crosses / high balls 
and seems to be ahead of Huffer now in the goal keeping hierarchy


Klich was very busy and involved a lot (offside 3 times) Alioski got a tough 
time being kicked all over the place (did score a nice header but was 
disallowed)
As we always say it is miles too early to draw any real conclusions, these 
games are all about getting match fit and match sharp but you do get a glimpse 
of what a player is like - Costa quick and tricky, White loving carrying the 
ball  forward
Dave



 On Thursday, 11 July 2019, 21:17:09 BST, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

  Good goal from Costa so I'll take that early pre-season comment back :)
It's been pretty disappointing from Leeds so far especially the defence.
On Thursday, 11 July 2019, 20:21:00 BST, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 Twitter is down ! Either hacked by the Russians or it's Boris's fault.
Poor at the moment against Guiseley. Anyone who thinks Philips is worth £10 
million and can play at a higher level is having a laugh. Look at their goal. 
Philips left for dead. He's pedestrian beyond belief and wouldn't last 5 mins 
in the PL.
Costa looks shit. Jack Clarke too. Need to improve.
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Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[Jeremy Adams]

Yes I don't understand why they just don't use the clear and obvious error 
factor. Cameroon's goal being ruled out against England was ridiculous, as was 
England's being ruled out yesterday. The penalty we got was also very soft to 
be honest, I'm not sure the US defender could do much about getting her leg out 
of the way of whatshername pulling her foot back to shoot.
I'm no luddite either but VAR is killing the spontaneity of the game. I realize 
the getting calls correct can be of paramount importance but part of the joy of 
this game is it's "humanness" the fact that its strewn with errors (both by 
players and officials) amongst moments of pure beauty is what makes it so 
fascinating. This insistence on "being right" is making football a little bit 
like talking to the really annoying person we all know who has an answer for 
everything, it just kills any enjoyment.

Jeremy

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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 7:31 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

I think they should adopt a cricket-like approach.  If the VAR shows that they 
are only just offside, like the "big toe" scenario, then it should go with the 
officials' original decision.  Only if it is clearly offside (above a certain 
margin - maybe 20cm?) should they use VAR to overrule the decision.  And maybe 
allow less leeway on things incorrectly ruled offside by the assistant referee, 
to give the attacking side more chance.

Nigel
(the Dublin, and now Irish(!) one)

On 3 Jul 2019 at 10:26, nat...@sky.com wrote:

> Watching the womens semi final last night it made me even more
> convinced that if they are going to use VAR for offside decisions they
> need to tweak the offside rule Both v Cameroon when it went for
> England and last night when it went against them the decision to
> overrule a goal due to the striker being offside by an inch (in the Cameroon 
> game she was facing the 'wrong way') I thought that this was bad for the game 
> in general Quite often when a player is out wide and is offside the 'expert' 
> summariser will say that it is bad football since that player can look right 
> down the line and judge his run.That is fine when he gets ahead of the 
> defence but it is impossible for a player who is 'level' to judge if any 
> relevant part of his body is ahead of the defender Most recent rule changes 
> have had the intention (albeit sometimes the opposite result) of speeding the 
> game up and making it more likely for teams to have chances and thus more 
> exciting and entertainingThis offside by an inch via VAR will have the 
> opposite effect , with really good , well worked goals being chalked off. 
> Last night, for example was a lovely flick through, a well timed run and good 
> finish and yet ruled out because her big toe was in front of the defenders 
> big toe Surely if they are going to use VAR for this the rule should be (as 
> linesmen were told the other year) to only be offside if there is 'clear 
> daylight' between the attacker and the defender - this will give both players 
> the ability tom judge when to make a run / when to hold a line etc. It will 
> still penalise a player for gaining an advantage by being ahead of the 
> defenders but not penalise someone who is to all intents and purposes 'level'
> Problem solved
> Still do not like VAR in its present format - they should really stick
> to the 'clear and obvious mistake' - one that a single quick review ,
> done in seconds will sort out Dave
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Re: [LU] Incoming confirmed

[Jeremy Adams]

I'm happy that Clarke is being loaned back, and that Harrison is coming back (I 
actually like what I've seen of him) but all this being hailed as two new 
signings is a bit much! Basically this is us just keeping two of the squad from 
last year here. Ben White is a nice addition as will Costa if he comes.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
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Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 11:03 AM
To: nat...@sky.com
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Incoming confirmed

I know there’s been plenty of hoo hah about getting Clarke back on loan, but I 
hope we haven’t agreed to any clauses that he must start x games if he does 
come back?  I say that because whilst he’s been really effective off the bench 
he’s also looked lost at times. Harrison will probably start more like last 
season, and hopefully he’ll be more consistently effective!

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Jul 2019, at 11:06, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> No surprise - Harrison is back for the season and Ben White has also joined 
> us on a season long loanKnow nowt about White but should be decent back up 
> for Cooper and Pontus (assuming he stays)
> Harrison will need to up his game a bit to bring fans onside - hard to know 
> how much his lack of effectiveness in creating goals is down to him as 
> opposed to  the poor finishing which meant we needed more chances to score 
> than any of our rivals. He did show glimpses at times to suggest he can be 
> decent (move for goal at Derby away in play offs his best moment)Not sure how 
> much game time he will get if Costa and Clarke both come on loan too
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Clarke

[Jeremy Adams]

Is that 20K or 200K?? I'm assuming the former which still isnt half bad.

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Subject: [LU] Clarke

Supposedly went from 1,000 a week to 20,. Bloody hell.
Nick
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Re: [LU] Play off final

[Jeremy Adams]

I watched it. It's hard to fathom how we lost to Derby, they are very 
pedestrian and only came alive in the last 15 minutes when Villa sat back. 
Villa have enough quality in Mings, Grealish (I hate him but he's a decent 
player when not moaning), and Abraham to survive in the premier league but 
they're not going to set it on fire!

Jeremy


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Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 9:07 AM
To: nat...@sky.com
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Play off final

Yep..I shan't be watching either.

V depressing to see my two most-hated teams in our division reach the
final. The only consolation is that one of 'em will lose..and
hopefully whichever it is will then implode financially, whilst the other
will go on to rival "udders and Derby as the worst ever PL team.

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 2:24 PM nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> No intention at all of watching it but would love to read headlines
> tomorrow and see that Villa got a goal whilst a Derby player was lying down
> injured, and then Villa get a penalty given by the ref and then overruled
> by the linesman
> Then love to hear the comments of the two hypocritical whinging managers
> explaining why Villa did not let Derby score and then why it is only the
> lino doing his job getting the ref to change his mind !!
> 5th v 6th just shows how unfair the play offs are (albeit very exciting
> both in themselves and for keeping the season alive for a mid table team)
> and I have commented more than once about the awarding of a trophy and the
> pre match hullabaloo that treats it as some sort of cup final - load of
> bollocks
> Bitter, dead right
> Dave
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Re: [LU] good article

[Jeremy Adams]

According to the YEP the club are already warning of a "difficult" summer in 
the transfer market and are hinting we'll be looking for academy products to 
feature more prominently, plus better loan signings...

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-latest/andrea-radrizzani-sends-warning-over-difficult-summer-transfer-window-for-leeds-united-1-9782913

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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 7:56 AM
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] good article

I don't know if "wiser" is the right term but I certainly hope that the
lessons of last season are learnt. Which starts with the transfer window
and the recruitment policy that we follow.

I don't know if it's a good idea to talk in terms of "we need x defenders,
y midfielders and z attackers", but I do think that it would be nice for
the club to at least tacitly admit that we need to strengthen in some areas
and to act accordingly.

Damian

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:46 PM Richard Naef <
rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:

> I think he'll be wiser next year and will adjust to what he's learnt and
> seen about the Championship, that and hopefully a couple of better players
> to replace Hernandez and Harrison and some extra cover in a couple of
> places and we are all set for winning it (or 13th place)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 21 May 2019 10:22
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: Re: [LU] good article
>
>  I think that is it i a nutshell - Bielsa has one way of playing and that
> is the way that got a team of average players with a huge injury crisis
> into top place for so long and then 2 up in the play offs - there is no way
> Warnock et al would have managed that - we can wish all we want that he had
> changed everything and held on for 50 minutes BUT it is not what Bielsa
> does so we have to live with it and enjoy it (which I did immensely) or
> bemoan his deficiencies -take your pick because one thing is for sure, if
> he stays, and I really hope he does, we will play exactly the same way next
> season in every game irrespective of the score at any time in any match
> Dave-
> On Tuesday, 21 May 2019, 00:50:26 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>   Dean Smith or Warnock would never have got that squad there in the first
> place.
> On Monday, May 20, 2019, 4:18:30 PM EDT, Robert Heath <
> heathpalai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Here's the thingwhen we went 1-0 up the other night, I am
> prettty sure that if we'd have had that Dean Smith or Warnock as manager,
> we would have gone through.
> So the question is...do we want to succeed ugly or fail
> gloriously? (Obvs we would prefer to succeed gloiriously, but that might
> not be an option.) On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 6:57 PM Nicholas Armit via
> Leedslist  wrote:
>
>  Great piece. We truly have been privileged.
> Nick
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, 6:47:25 AM EDT, Nick <
> n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/18/marcelo-bielsa-play-off-leeds-championship
>
> Nick
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Re: [LU] good article

[Jeremy Adams]

Bielsa took an average team and got them to third place. In Guardiola's first 
season he took a team that had finished fourth before to second place, and that 
was a team littered with stars! It took Guardiola two seasons to win the title, 
Bielsa will do it next year (if he stays) He's created a philosophy all through 
the club, and I can't imagine that there won't be players who would love to 
come and play for him at Leeds. So I think we'll have a decent shot at getting 
some of our targets this summer, coupled with the fact that some U23 players 
can step up and know the system, I really believe we've got a shot at promotion.

And if not, I can't think of any other manager in the world that I'd rather 
have at this club. Yes we fell short this season, yes he has no plan B and 
believes solely in the purity of his philosophy but fuck me what a philosophy!
I'd rather be supporting this team, who go out to play football and try to 
create as many chances as they can, than say a team like Cardiff under Warnock, 
whose philosophy is to win by not losing, keep it tight at the back and hope to 
nick something on the break. It's like the difference between Hurricane Higgins 
and Steve Davis, when Higgins played it was thrilling to watch (well as 
thrilling as snooker can be) Steve Davis may have won more but he was as dull 
as fuck.

Jeremy


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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 7:26 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] good article

I like the comments - all those who say they are Leeds fans saying what a great 
season it has been and how desperate they are for MB to stay - other fans 
either trying to 'big up' their team or whinge about Leeds, with a few who 
cannot understand why we do not want rid of a manager who had promotion in the 
bag and blew it (twice)
I just know I have loved this season - yes it was heartbreaking at the end and 
all self inflicted (Wigan, Sheff U in the league and then Derby on Wednesday)  
but during the season from that first match v Stoke we knew we had something 
special going on
Bielsa's recent record does suggest that he cannot repeat this a second season 
but, for me, as long as the players and, to a lesser degree, the fans, still 
believe in him (the shouts of 'get rid / hoof it' have become less and less 
over the course of the season and have brought some condescending comments of 
'your first game this season mate' or ' have you not understood this season' 
etc) then I think we can do it next year. Yes, we need much better luck with 
injuries and we need to sort out a few problem positions but if we keep the 
bulk of the squad , which we should be able to, and then get some top additions 
either on loan or permanent and then bring through the likes of Shackleton, 
Clarke, Gotts, Odour,Stevens,  Stujick, Halme and of course Edmondson then the 
future is looking great
The last few months have been tiring and I am ready for a rest but I know in a 
few weeks time I will begin to miss that buzz of going to ER and will end up 
going to the home pre season friendly saying 'this is always shit, why are we 
here ?'
Dave
On Saturday, 18 May 2019, 11:47:22 BST, Nick  
wrote:

 
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/18/marcelo-bielsa-play-off-leeds-championship

Nick
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Re: [LU] u23s

[Jeremy Adams]

We look pretty much on top without creating much in the way of clear chances, 
final ball is poor and we seem a little susceptible to attacks on the break. 
Just like watching the first team!


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Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 3:27 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] u23s

Off to ER today (well what else is there to do on a Bank Holiday ?) to take 
advantage of the free entry to watch the u23s in their Final (we don't get many 
chances to watch LUFC in a final of any type and a decent chance of winning it 
- unlike the first team ?)
I think it is on the LUFC app as well
12.30 kick off, so leaving soon to get  few beers in -need morphine and beer to 
watch any Leeds United team !
Dave
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Re: [LU] On the other hand.

[Jeremy Adams]

Yeah and I was top goal scorer in the NYC Roosevelt Island indoor five a side 
league when I was in my 30's so I know a thing or too as well. Only when you've 
lived the dream can you really understand the pressure these players are under.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nicholas Armit via 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:31 PM
To: seanscr...@aol.com; Nick Allen
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Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.

I do. I was captain of East Sheen County Primary School. You can't buy that 
experience.
Nick
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 12:03:43 PM EST, Nick Allen 
 wrote:

 However, Bielsa is revered as a tactical genius based on decades of actual 
work in the game...whereas we are a bunch of gobshites who often watch some of 
a game through beer goggles. Let’s just all stop pretending we know better, 
because we don’t.

> On 27 Feb 2019, at 16:36, seanscribe--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
>
> I think we are seeing that some of Bielsa's strengths are double edged, in 
> that they also contain the seeds of our ultimate demise. To wit:
> - His loyalty to his core group of players. This doubtless results in 
> reciprocal loyalty on the players' part and motivates them to run through a 
> proverbial brick wall for him, but it seems to blind him to the need for 
> change - and the availability of other options - when members of that core 
> group show clear signs of mental fatigue and loss of form (indeed, it just 
> serves to reinforce the mental and physical fatigue). Just a few examples of 
> this are the failure to find a place in the team for Shackleton when Ayling's 
> form has been so poor recently; the insistence on restricting Jack Clarke to 
> second-half substitute appearances when he was already clearly the most 
> dangerous player in the squad; the failure to even find a place on the bench 
> for Edmondson when our team is clearly bereft of a consistent goalscorer in a 
> division in which goal difference is likely to be crucial.
> - His obsession with leaving no statistical and informational stone unturned 
> in his preparations. This led straight to Spygate. Of course it's ridiculous 
> that the League fined the club two hundred thousand quid for breaking a rule 
> that doesn't exist, but any Leeds supporter over the age of 15 could have 
> told Bielsa that if he sent a Leeds employee to observe other clubs' 
> training, and that employee was discovered to be doing that, our enemies 
> would pounce on it and use it as a stick with which to beat us. This was 
> dumb. It created a massive distraction at a crucial time of the season and 
> cost the club a not inconsequential sum of money.
> - His openness and honesty, when combined with his insistence on sticking to 
> only one style of play. By needlessly announcing his first XI for every game 
> two days before kickoff, he gives the opposition manager 48 hours in which to 
> plan how to counter us. Is it any surprise that as the season has gone on, 
> more and more managers have figured this out? This is an absolute own goal. 
> If I were Radz I would have told him to stop doing it months ago.
> - His insistence on working with a small squad. Bielsa's previous experience 
> in Europe was managing sides in La Liga and Ligue 1. Both of those leagues 
> have a 38-game season (in slightly warmer climes). The Championship has a 
> 46-game season, much of it played through in the (mostly north) English 
> winter. In addition there are two knockout cups and preseason games, meaning 
> the first team is playing more than 50 games per season. For several players 
> (Jansson, Klich, Douglas, Peacock-Farrell, Dallas, etc) there is the added 
> burden of playing in (and traveling to and from) regular international games. 
> The Championship - and English football in general - generally involves a 
> much more physically demanding style of play than is the case in the Spanish 
> and French top tiers. In addition, Rob Price himself acknowledged recently 
> that players at the peak of fitness that Bielsa favors are more likely to get 
> injured. Plus, we are Leeds United - we have injury crises that last years 
> (cf: The O'Leary years). This all seems to argue for a larger squad than 
> might be the case in Bilbao or Marseille. But not only did Bielsa insist on 
> keeping the squad small, as players left the squad (Pearce, Saiz, etc.) they 
> weren't replaced. I understand that it's easier to build camaraderie with a 
> smaller squad, but are Bielsa's motivational skills so limited that he'd be 
> unable to handle a squad with a few more players in it (let's say a creative 
> midfielder, a dominant central midfielder and a proven, uninjured 
> goalscorer)? I find that hard to believe. The results of all this are now 
> clear for all to see.
> If Bielsa (or Corberan, if Bielsa leaves, as seems likely) could find a way 
> to bend a little on the above points, and if Radz can 

Re: [LU] Norwich - a few thoughts

[Jeremy Adams]

My concern about not going up this season is will Bielsa stay or will he get 
bored and leave? He's worked absolute wonders with the squad but it's still 
probably not good enough to get promoted and stay in the premier league. If we 
lose Bielsa in the summer then we'll be starting all over again!

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 12:02 PM
To: Nicholas Armit; nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Norwich - a few thoughts




>That is what Brighton did right? Took about three>
> years of continuing improvement?

Hughton joined midway 2014 season and they went up 2 season afterwards I know a 
lot of their fans and they were generally very supportive of Hughton even when 
things went a little array.   You can find examples to match any hypothesis 
from teams that have got promoted in the last few years.



On Saturday, February 2, 2019, 7:52:55 PM EST, Richard Naef 
mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote:


100% Dave.  It's a fantastic season, it might end in disappointment, in which 
case we aren’t ready for promotion.  Heresy I know, but another season in the 
Championship building the team might not be a bad idea.



ttfn

Richard

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From: Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf 
Of nat...@sky.com
Sent: 02 February 2019 22:32
To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: [LU] Norwich - a few thoughts

Just got home so have not seen anything on TV or read any reports so here are a 
few thoughts from watching it live A great atmosphere to start with but that 
soon died and apart from a brilliant whole ground Waccoe at two down the fans 
were poor today. The number who left as their 3rd went in was nothing short of 
disgraceful and the general mood around me was 'F off, good riddance, and dont 
come back' if you could not even bother staying to the end just because we had 
lost !
Game started Ok but a 'foul' (not convinced it was a foul but a tackle from 
behind is always dodgy) gave them a free kick on the edge of the box and a 
wicked deflection put them a goal up. After that they were a horrible team - 
plenty of time wasting and one blatant dive and one rolliing around holding his 
face incident should have led to two yellow cards Then the keeper was lucky not 
to see a red when he came out and clattered Roberts, plus we had a good shout 
for a penalty for a foul on Pontus.
We huffed and puffed a bit and looked decent enough but every 50/50 decision 
and loose ball and every bit of luck went their way and that culminated in a 
terrible mistake by Forshaw that enabled them to get 2 up A couple of changes 
at half time showed we were going for it, the ineffectual Harrison and the out 
of sorts (? not fully fit ) Hernandez being replace by Clarke and Douglas, We 
had a few chances to pull one back , a great cross along the six yard box was 
well defended, our one decent shot on target was well saved and a good free 
kick was headed wide by Ayling. They continued to pick up all the pieces and 
win 50/50s so perhaps it was due to good play rather than luck Then a quick 
break, another deflected shot and 3 0 game over - cue mass exodus - the players 
tonight and over the season so far deserved better Bamford came on , scored 
with a good back header but too little too late - albeit it led fans to 
(wrongly) sing we are top of the league -they too stupid to understand goal 
difference ?
So an average performance led to a very poor result - made a bit better by the 
fact that West Brom had lost at home to Boro earlier on . Our recent form is 
not great and we are in danger of messing it all up, despite some fans trying 
to lighten the mood at the bus stop etc by declaring we are joint top The fact 
that Bamford was on the bench and even better scored, is the only real bright 
spot from the game (Clarke did impress again as an impact sub) As I say, anyone 
who has seen the game on TV before or since may dispute a lot of my 'facts' but 
I am just saying it as I saw it Need to at least avoid defeat next week at Boro 
and then beat Swansea to stop this season going down the tubes Dan James would 
not have made a difference to the result Too soon to panic and whatever the 
next 16 games bring this has been a great season Dave(pissed up and a bit 
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Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 103, Issue 29

[Jeremy Adams]

Completely agree Phil. This just means we can get him cheaper in the summer if 
we still want him. Might also galvanise the players a little more, and will 
certainly make the Swansea clash tasty!

I'm just happy we kept on to Clarke

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Phil Morgan 

Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:13 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 103, Issue 29

Not too disappointed in James transfer fiasco.
2 goals in 21 appearances not exactly setting the league on fire . Maybe he
works hard - don't know. We have lots of hard workers but we need someone
who can put the ball in the net.
 At 21 years old not exactly a young prospect . I've only seen him once and
he  didn't have the impact of Jack Clarke.
I doubt that he woud significantly enhance our promotion prospects.
If Bielsa likes him that much I'm sure they will try again in the summer.

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> Subject: [LU] Izzy scores again
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> A well worked and well taken goal after 10mins
> Brown, Douglas (and Roberts) all playing - Dallas has allegedly suffered
> another injury in trainingBamford not in squad
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> Lukcy to hang on in many ways - not sure how they did not scoreDouglas &
> Roberts both subbed at half time - Brown did full 90 and right at the death
> was part of a quick break that led him to being unmarked inside 6 yd box
> but Kun too greedy
> Halme impressed. Shackleton v lively when he came on at half time -
> McCalmont and Odour both look like they could make it
> Dave
>
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> Whatabout Kim?
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> Sent from my mobile
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> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com
> 
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> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] u23s won 1 -0
>
> Lukcy to hang on in many ways - not sure how they did not scoreDouglas &
> Roberts both subbed at half time - Brown did full 90 and right at the death
> was part of a quick break that led him to being unmarked inside 6 yd box
> but Kun too greedy
> Halme impressed. Shackleton v lively when he came on at half time -
> McCalmont and Odour both look like they could make it
> Dave
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> If you mean Kun - pretty much isolated on his own up front. Did not do much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > Whatabout Kim?
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> > Sent from my mobile
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> > From: Leedslist  on behalf of
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> > Subject: [LU] u23s won 1 -0
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> > Lukcy to hang on in many ways - not sure how they did not scoreDouglas &
> Roberts both subbed at half time - Brown did full 90 and right at the death
> was part of a quick break that led him to being 

Re: [LU] FA Cup

[Jeremy Adams]

The FA Cup It's a knockout was fantastic! I still remember the excitement of FA 
Cup day, coverage of the players arriving on team buses, fans streaming to 
Wembley etc. Used to start watching at 11am or so.

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 3:20 PM
To: Damian Walsh
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Subject: Re: [LU] FA Cup

With Stuart Hall and Jimmy Saville

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Jan 2019, at 19:40, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>
> Hear hear Rogerre,
>
> And they can bring back Cup Final It'a A Knockout too :)
>
> Damian
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:48 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>>   Back in my boyhood and youth the FA Cup final was the biggest game of
>>   the season for any player to play in - only one team played in the
>>   European cup, so for the rest of the teams it was the biggest cup
>>   competition in Christendom. A certain Mr Stiles who won a world cup and
>>   a European cup, still has it as the biggest regret in his career (and
>>   we stopped it twice) that he didn't play in an FA Cup final.
>>   I'm totally pissed off with the majority of teams in the top two
>>   divisions (Us included for many seasons now) who take the piss and
>>   totally disrespect the original and greatest cup competition in the
>>   world.
>>   I'll give the FA an extremely simple solution that will make managers
>>   and players, once again go though brick walls to win this trophy.
>>   Champions league qualification to the top three only and the fourth
>>   place to the FA Cup winners - simples.
>>   Have a great day everyone
>>   Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Baker?

[Jeremy Adams]

Time will tell if it was right to Jansson, Roofe, Hernandez etc.
I think Roberts will improve with more game time, he shows flashes but lacks 
consistently. Harrison is clearly MLS level, he just doesn't have it at 
Championship level.
I thought Clarke looked good as per usual and Shackleton at least tried to make 
things happen and drove at QPR.
Alioski, he works his little cotton socks off, and I love the fact that he 
hates losing the ball and hates losing the game. He did however seem intent on 
getting a red card and I was surprised he only got the one yellow.
Baker was okay but didn't really do a whole hell of a lot that I noticed.
I thought this game clarified a) we can't defend set pieces, and b) without 
Saiz and Hernandez we don't have anyone who can unlock a defence. We rarely 
looked dangerous going forward, just pass it around the back and then have 
someone hit a diagonal ball across the field and then try and get a cross in.

Need to get back to winning ways, and at least this counts as one game for 
Phillips'ban.

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 10:58 AM
To: Nigel Sykes
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Baker?

Bielsa looked annoyed in injury time but surely he knew that this team and subs 
bench wasn't good enough to progress. I'd actually put this alongside the 
Newpor, Histon, Sutton games. The only miracle was that we didn't get drubbed 
and that was down to great goal keeping.
I feel for the fans who travelled to London early on a Sunday for a competition 
that we are obviously not interested in winning. It's a complete fucking 
disgrace if you ask me and I think the club should apologise. It's also clear 
that the 2nd string / U23s are woefully short for a team looking for promotion.
Do we need to strenghten - like fuck we do.
Bielsa a genius ? Yes maybe he is but today he should be made to wear a fucking 
clown outfit after that team selection.
what a waste of a Sunday - fucking annoyed.


On Sunday, 6 January 2019, 15:28:58 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 Man of the match so far by a country mile.

2nd half ok so far. I think we look much better without Halme.



> On 6 Jan 2019, at 15:25, Nigel Sykes  wrote:
>
> This should at least shut up the BPF hating faction for a while.  He's been 
> outstanding so far today.  Though I did read that people were having a go at 
> him on Twatter for not saving the penalty!
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
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Re: [LU] Team v QPR.

[Jeremy Adams]

None of their starting 11 has a number higher than 22 so it looks a more senior 
side based on that at least.

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Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:34 PM
To: Matt Anderson; Richard Walker
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v QPR.

Except they won't (this isn't Sutton) so we won't.
Nick
On Friday, January 4, 2019, 1:37:18 PM EST, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:

 Looks like a really weak team to me. If QPR put their first XI out I would 
expect a spanking.


> On 4 Jan 2019, at 18:33, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>
> Happy with that. Thought Alioski might get a rest
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 14:48, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>>
>> BPF, Shackleton, Halme, Ayling, Davis, Forshaw, Baker, Roberts, Alioski, 
>> Clarke & Harrison as centre forward.
>>
>> Actually v clisr to the team I thought about last night.  Except Davis in 
>> for Pontus (obvs not positionally) looks good to me, rests a few of our 
>> vital players.  Don't know the subs bench tho.
>>
>> Sent from my mobile
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Re: [LU] I believe

[Jeremy Adams]

I was watching the game at the airport in NYC on my phone and was grumbling 
away at halftime, though I thought we were the better team, we just hadn't 
converted our chances and VIlla had been clinical with theirs. I then had to 
board. Boarded my plane at minute 50 minutes and couldnt get the plane wifi to 
stream the game or even connect to the scores so I had to sit on the plane for 
6.5 hours and wait till we landed. The whole plane was greeted to a "GET IN!" 
when I finally managed to get reception on the runway at heathrow! What a 
result and by all accounts it sounds thoroughly deserved

Jeremy

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Joe Skinner 

Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 3:49 AM
To: Ted
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] I believe

It would be ‘Leeds’ for us to be the first team in 10 years top at Christmas to 
not to go up...

Shades of John Gregory at villa taking a squad photo.

Bielsa is nothing short of amazing with pretty much the same squad or core as 
last year.

Also pretty weird seeing us on the 10 o clock news (slow news day)

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Dec 2018, at 19:07, Ted  wrote:
>
> Absolutely Rev! 
>
>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, 18:55 >
>> I think I’m on the same page as Ted - I’m glowing inside after that win,
>> and whilst I never underestimate the risk of calamity when it comes to
>> LUFC, the ability to win games even against adversity has me thinking this
>> could be the year.
>>
>> Of course every time I hear an ‘expert’ tell me that every team who have
>> been at the top at Christmas has gone up etc makes me wonder if Fate is
>> awaking just to f*ck us up again?
>>
>> But for now, I BELIEVE!
>>
>> Happy Christmas all!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 23 Dec 2018, at 18:11, Ted  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sometimes the world is a good place.
>>>
>>> I was lucky enough to be ringside for Josh's demolition of Frampton last
>>> night in Scumchester, I didn't think the Selby fight could be matched but
>>> that was pure, world level, class.
>>>
>>> Then today I watched my beloved Leeds (sadly today only TV) come back
>> from
>>> 2-0 down to beat one of the divisions tipped sides to win 3-2.
>>> I can't remember, in recent history, a better sporting weekend.
>>>
>>> As an old bloke not much excites me these days but I'm absolutely buzzing
>>> today.
>>>
>>> Fu*king marvellous.
>>>
>>> Roll on Boxing Day.
>>>
>>> MOT
>>>
>>> Ted H
>>> p.s. I may have a hangover tmrw!
>>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, 17:29 Richard Walker via Leedslist <
>>> leedslist@gn.apc.org wrote:
>>>
 Yep I was at that game and remember it well. We demolished them.


> On 23 Dec 2018, at 16:46, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> In November 1991 it was the away win at Villa 4 1 that made me have
 belief that Wilko's team were the real deal and could genuinely win the
 titleWell today gives me that same belief - as i said pre game I feared
 another West Brom and at 2 down after 20mins I did fear another
>> hammering
 but to come back and win with the style we did then I am beginning to
 believe that this really will be our year
> One interesting stat is that for the top Division game in 91 the crowd
 was 23,000 today in the second Division it was over 41.000 !
> So all you overseas listers or others who do not get to watch the games
 live , I say to you "Believe"
> DaveForget Christmas Day I am already looking forward to Boxing Day
>> game
 !
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Re: [LU] Saiz

[Jeremy Adams]

Da Rev said
I hope Bielsa is making notes of players he sees who could fit into his system, 
as it seems unlikely we won’t need some recruits.

Considering he apparently had watched every Leeds game from last season before 
his job interview, I'd wager he's been taking notes on possible replacements. I 
think the Izzy Brown to step into that role discussion seems the most likely.

I personally loved Saiz, when he was on song he was unplayable. Issue was he 
wasn't really on song often enough, if he had been he would have been playing 
for a top 5 team in the prem. When he was he was a joy to watch.
I'm getting old and as I do I realize I want my football to be entertaining, I 
wants to see little moments of magic and he supplied that.

Best,

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:32 PM
To: Simon McNally
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Saiz

As an impact substitute it’ll be a negative if he goes, but after the first few 
games other teams quickly learnt how to play him, and despite some skills, his 
lack of speed and petulance are a liability. Who knows if the fact he wants to 
go back is down to his wife’s homesickness - it might just be he’s not getting 
picked?

I hope Bielsa is making notes of players he sees who could fit into his system, 
as it seems unlikely we won’t need some recruits.

Going back to Saiz, my abiding memory will be THAT dive, when he writhed on the 
floor like a salmon out of water :-)

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> On 13 Dec 2018, at 22:03, Simon McNally  wrote:
>
> Would be sorry to see him go but no point keeping him if he doesn’t want to 
> be here.
> Hopefully money will be invested in winger / keeper / defender
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 21:26, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Do you think this might be linked to the plight of Eleven Sports ? Siaz 
>> offered to recoup some money.
>>
>>
>>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 18:44, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not looking good when Phil Hay says he wants to go back to Spain
>>> I know he does not always hit the heights he is capable of but he is the 
>>> player I enjoy watching most out of the present crop - will be a blow if he 
>>> does go especially since I doubt Bielsa will use the money to replace him ( 
>>> continue with Forshaw and give Izzy Brown a chance)
>>> Will be gutted if he leaves
>>> DavePS Is everybody buying the Bielsa Rhapsody song for a childrens hospice 
>>> (hate listening to it but do like some of the lyrics)
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Re: [LU] Saiz

[Jeremy Adams]

The Guardian is saying that Eleven Sports not doing well will most likely mean 
Radz will open his checkbook in Jan in an effort to get to the premier league 
this year as all that cash will offset the loss from this company and then 
some. Radz seems a smart enough bloke to me and the above makes sense, he's 
always said if he's not in the prem in 3 years time he'll sell


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:26 PM
To: nat...@sky.com
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Saiz

Do you think this might be linked to the plight of Eleven Sports ? Siaz offered 
to recoup some money.


> On 13 Dec 2018, at 18:44, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> Not looking good when Phil Hay says he wants to go back to Spain
> I know he does not always hit the heights he is capable of but he is the 
> player I enjoy watching most out of the present crop - will be a blow if he 
> does go especially since I doubt Bielsa will use the money to replace him ( 
> continue with Forshaw and give Izzy Brown a chance)
> Will be gutted if he leaves
> DavePS Is everybody buying the Bielsa Rhapsody song for a childrens hospice 
> (hate listening to it but do like some of the lyrics)
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Re: [LU] Slightly LU........The World's Gone Mad Pt 94

[Jeremy Adams]

I think they are complaining because they feel these taxes affect them more 
drastically than the rich or the corporations. The interview I heard they 
acknowledged the importance to try and reduce carbon emissions but lamented the 
fact that large corporations or the aviation industry, both of which contribute 
significantly to carbon emissions, appear to not be taxed in the same way as 
people who can no longer afford to live, they are simply surviving.
I confess to not really following this closely but I think Macron also just 
eliminated or reduced a tax on the super wealthy which has also angered the 
yellow jackets.
As the working class get relatively poorer and poorer they are going to get 
hacked off and protest and are going to use every tool within their grasp to 
try and bring attention to their plight, including social media.

What are they supposed to do? Just sit around and send emails to their mates 
about it and hope it all gets fixed by someone else?



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 

Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 10:34 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Slightly LUThe World's Gone Mad Pt 94

I am so furious that the French government has caved in to a bunch of
attention-seeking morons who just want to post selfies in front of piles of
burning pallets and get on the rolling news channels. Their "like" ratings
on Instagram are much more important than the fact that the planet is
burning up because everybody drives around in petrol vehicles with impunity.

I want Leeds United to be in the Premier League. I don't think it's fair
that such a great club has been kept out of the top division for all these
years. There's obviously been a conspiracy to prevent us getting promotion;
witness the 58 games with a for-against penalty count of 0:10, or Pontus
getting banned whilst Charlie Austin got off scot free for the same offence.

I'm going to tie a Leeds scarf around my head and go out to a roundabout on
the edge of town and stop all the traffic until the authorities give in and
put Leeds into the PL. Who's with me?
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Re: [LU] Further thoughts after Bramall Lane

[Jeremy Adams]

Saving Saiz is all a cunning plan to make sure we don't run out of steam mid 
season! Keep one or two players rested so you always have someone fresh who can 
make a difference. At least that's what I'm hoping as I cant figure it out 
otherwise!

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Mark 

Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 7:31 PM
To: Alec; Robert Heath
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Further thoughts after Bramall Lane

Maybe because it looks like he is running in treacle all the time.
Cheers
Mark



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Alec 

Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 3:39 PM
To: Robert Heath
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Further thoughts after Bramall Lane

Why isn’t SS getting in the starting 11? Seems odd to me when he seems to be 
our best player? Does Bielsa consider him a luxury player?

Cheers
A

> On 3 Dec 2018, at 7:54 am, Robert Heath  wrote:
>
> Couple of other thoughts:
>
> 1. I didn't like the look of the Sheff teamsheet. Sharp & McGoldrick are
> both serial scorers against us, and that little ginger dweeb Duffy ran
> rings around our midfield last season. But that was all then, and this is
> now: This is the Bielsa Era, and things seem to be different. McGoldrick
> actually played really well (even though, as we all know he should have
> been sent off), but he didn't score.
>
> 2. Far be it for me to second guess Marcelo Genius, but I must admit I
> would have liked to see him bring Saiz on once they had 2 or 3 midfielders
> on yellows. Everyone in this league knows that the only way of stopping SS
> is to foul him, and those players would have had a tricky time trying to
> stop him whilst on a yellow. But maybe Bielsa had already realised that
> that ref wasn't going to red card any of their players, no matter what they
> did.
>
> I'll be at Elland Road for the QPR game...my first of the
> season...can't wait!
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Re: [LU] Bolton tickets

[Jeremy Adams]

I'm a complete novice at this but I recently bought tickets to Brighton v 
Everton as a Christmas present for my son. Brighton let me buy 2 tickets for 
this game as it was category B but I could only buy 1 ticket for a category A 
game. Might that have something to do with it?


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ian Murray 

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:06:33 AM
To: nat...@sky.com; Richard Naef; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Bolton tickets

I think the website is garbage. LUTV is particularly poor.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: nat...@sky.com
Date: 27/11/2018 19:28 (GMT+08:00)
To: Richard Naef , Leeds List 

Subject: Re: [LU] Bolton tickets

No I think it was something i did or did not do
I applied for 2 tickets - got exceed numberso applied for 1 - came up with a 
list of my F names - so I clicked on my sons and put it in basket , only 
choices then were 'update basket' which just allowed me to delete it or check 
out - no option to add a ticket for myself (as far as I could see)After going 
in circles like this for a bit I decided would buy that and then go back and by 
one for myselfDid that but then - even though it said tickets still available - 
it said I had exceeded limit (presumably because I had bought one) Do not know 
passwords for rest of mates so could not apply via them
I have done it before and found it complicated to add others for away games 
(home games is the opposite - end up buying for all Friends and Family and then 
deleting) but could not remember how - my first try this season
Dave

On Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 11:18:48 GMT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:

 I often get the number exceeds amount allowed when they are sold out - so 
perhaps u got the last one for your lad?

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
Sent: 27 November 2018 11:11
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] Bolton tickets

Not used ticket site for away games for a while but thought I would go for this 
one Not sure if I am stupid or the site is poor (or a mixture) but when I tried 
for 2 tickets it exceeded amount allowed - so clicked on 1. It came up with my 
and other Friends and family names - but again no way, I could see, to buy more 
than one - does anyone know what I should have clicked on to get two tickets ?
In the event I ended up getting one ticket in my lads name, and then every time 
I tried to buy another single ticket for myself  it again said 'tickets applied 
for exceeds number allowed' (presumably becasue it knows I have bought one) - 
now sold out So 2 questions 1. What do I need to do in futures to get more than 
one ticket for an away game2 Does anyone have a spare for Bolton Quite happy 
for either / both questions to be answered off line Dave 
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Re: [LU] Hull

[Jeremy Adams]

I only saw the game from about the 30th till the 60th minute. I've also not 
seen much of us play live all this season other than the season opener so don't 
have much to compare it to. However compared to last season, if that was us 
playing below our best last night and not really getting into gear we are light 
years ahead of where we were last season. What Bielsa has done since coming to 
the club surpasses what Guardiola did at Man City in his first season there as 
far as I'm concerned.


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 4:25:57 AM
To: Leeds List; Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Hull

Agree Hull were poor and it was one of our least impressive performances, BUT 
We were a million times better than the same fixture last season and our pass 
completion was still 82%.  Players got in great positions let down a by their 
last touch.  The passing that failed was generally adventurous.  22 points from 
11 games, top of the league, proper manager at last. Excited? Not much!

Sent from my mobile


From: Richard Walker 
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:56:24 PM
To: Richard Naef; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Hull

No I think some of the passing and play was bloody awful. We were by far the 
better side throughout in a poor game but it took a great strike from Tyler 
Roberts to win it.

Hull were the worst team we've played this season.

My Scores:

Peacock - 7 didn't have much to do. Collected a cross confidently late on plus 
got his legs in the way in a late scramble as we panicked Milwall style late on.

Ayling - 5. First half was his worst of the season and he's getting a rep for 
starting very slowly. His passing was off and he should have had a goal.

Douglas - 7. I thought he was solid throughout. Hope his injury isn't bad.

Cooper - 7. Nearly one fuck up with Peacock first half but in general not 
troubled apart from a couple of crosses.

Jansson - 8. Our best defender. I wish he wouldn't feign injury though.

Siaz - 7. Did ok but again a yard short to really hurt them.

Kilch - 8. I thought he was consistent throughout and was still chasing down 
the ball in injury time.

Philips - 5. On the occassions Hull broke from midfield they left him for dead. 
He's just playing as a luxury, additional defender.

Allioski - 2. Apart from run round and cause a bit of chaos I thought he was 
incredibly poor. He's not a left winger. Should have scored first half.

Harrison - 4. Didn't really contribute first half. Second half a couple of 
decent crosses and link up play but overall disappointing.

Roberts - 7. I like Roberts, he runs around a lot, he closes down, he's got 
good control and can link up well (see his deft lay off for Allioski's chance 
first half). His goal was a great strike and I get the impression that goals 
like this will be more common than the 2 yard tap-ins. My only criticism is 
that he looks a little casual at times and he gave the ball away cheaply at 
times.

Subs:

Dallas - came on at right wing but then had to go to left back when Douglas got 
injured. Did ok.

Forshaw - tidy with a few mistakes. Rather than look at Forshaw as a 
replacement for Siaz I'd play him instead of Philips. Offers much more.

It's a good win and we're top but I don't think this starting 11 will get 
promotion. With Hernandez back and a decent winger I think we're top 6.





From: Richard Naef 
To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 21:05
Subject: RE: [LU] Hull

I think bloody awful is a bit harsh, even when it doesn't come off they are 
still trying, surely an improvement over pretty much any team we've in the last 
10 years.  Player tracking back, looking for a forward attacking pass rather 
than just lumping it.

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf 
Of {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 02 October 2018 20:37
To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: [LU] Hull

Watching on LUTV - when the passing game comes off it looks great (Sheffield 
Wed) when it doesn’t it’s bloody awful.

Tonight so far has been pretty awful. The passing from Ayling and Allioski has 
been nothing short of shocking. Allioski for me has turned in the worst 45 mins 
I've seen for a long time. Miscontrol, overhit passes and crosses and when put 
in brilliantly by Roberts he put the ball across the box when it was easier to 
score.

The Leeds fans were shouting the ground down in the first 10 minutes and 
deathly silent for the last 10 mins. Very frustrating.

I don’t think this team is promotion material. Yes we are playing better and 
more confident but the basics are missing at times. I'm wondering whether 
Harrison is any better than Dallas ?
Having said that Hull are shite and I fully expect us to win. 
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Re: [LU] Kids

[Jeremy Adams]

I joined the list a year or two before WorldNet in Leicester. Came over for 
that and for WorldNet in Leeds the following year. I was recently divorced at 
the time. I am now re-married and have a 13 and 15 year old. My 15 year old 
daughter could care less about football. My 13 year old son is mad for it, 
plays in an academy over in the US. I couldn't get him to support Leeds, he 
just couldn't handle the pain and disappointment (we were in league 1 when he 
first started getting in to footy.) He chose Everton as he felt they were a 
proper team with proper supporters and weren't filled with glory hunters, I can 
live with that.


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Simon Hart 

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 5:00:05 AM
To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] Kids

I joined the list in the early days after finding out about it on
rec.sport.soccer, I think. I have an 18 year old daughter who starts Uni in
a few weeks. She's been to games with me a few times and was a keen
footballer before a problem with her foot put a stop to that.

I coached her team for 5 season which was great fun. She played for her
school and got to the National Schools final at the Madejski where they
were runners up. I would have given my right arm to do that as a kid.

Si.
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Jeremy Adams]

Congrats Ian,


Have to admit to being a little unsure about putting parentheses in his middle 
name but welcome all the same!


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Errand Fivefold 

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:28:10 PM
To: Ian Murray; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

WOW!Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.
Great news!
:-)


 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: Ian Murray 
 To: Leeds List 
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
 Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)

[Jeremy Adams]

Yes the article Dave posted really got me excited. This section below is also 
great. All of a sudden we're big news again and there just seems to be a real 
buzz about the club. This could of course all come crashing down by days end 
tomorrow but it sure is fun being a Leeds fan right now.


Leeds’s appointment of Bielsa has had the feel of a coup. The reality of the 
club’s situation, with recently relegated rivals still receiving parachute 
payments and the financial fair play rules hemming United in, means they have 
needed to seek a creative solution.

Bielsa is it. The hierarchy believe he offers a competitive advantage in terms 
of knowledge, experience and patented tactical approach, which is characterised 
by a three‑man defence, extreme width, aggressive pressing, risk-taking, 
constant movement and relentless physical effort. The statistics show the 
players ran more, on average, across their six pre-season games than they did 
in league matches last season.



From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 7:27:59 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)

Marcelo Bielsa had a question. The new Leeds manager wanted to find out how 
hard the average supporter had to work to pay for a ticket to watch the team. 
How many hours did he or she have to put in? It was unclear what kind of 
calculations went into the answer but one was provided. It would be about 
three.So the Argentinian called his players together and he told them that, for 
the next three hours, they would be picking up litter from around the club’s 
Thorp Arch training ground. He wanted them to learn a lesson; to appreciate how 
the fans laboured to fulfil their passion.t was classic Bielsa on many levels, 
taking in his empathy for the worker, his fixation with discipline and team 
spirit and, above all, the quirkiness and unpredictability that has led to the 
“El Loco” nickname. The 63-year-old is not crazy. It is just that his obsessive 
nature, ferocious intensity, eccentricities and refusal to adhere to convention 
can make him seem that way.When Bielsa strode into Leeds on 15 June to replace 
Paul Heckingbottom, it quickly became clear the club would never be the same 
again. The stories of Bielsa’s attention to detail are already legendary. He 
runs his forefinger across various surfaces at Thorp Arch to check for dust, 
invariably being appalled at what he finds, while he once inquired why there 
was a bootprint on a wall – about half a yard from the floor.It was explained 
to him that, perhaps, it was the result of somebody leaning back against it, 
with his or her foot up. “That shows the person is not concentrated on their 
work! Unacceptable!” Bielsa exclaimed. Leeds have had and do have bigger 
problems than the odd dirty mark but this is Bielsa, the perfectionist, and 
this is how he intends to drag the club up by their bootlaces: little bit by 
little bit.
Full article - 
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/04/leeds-united-marcelo-bielsa
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Re: [LU] MB presser

[Jeremy Adams]

I just saw somewhere that his philosophy is indeed to attack, and if they have 
to defend the aim is to get the ball back as soon as possible so they can 
attack again. This sounds exactly like Guardiola to me, the aim is to keep hold 
of the ball and use it with purpose, if you lose possession then try and get it 
back within 5 seconds. Also seems that MB wants creativity too, again something 
Guardiola encourages in the right areas of the pitch. Of course it could all be 
shit (like the Rosler claims that Dave pointed out) but feck me this is about 
the most excited I've been pre-season in a good long time. Obviously we don't 
have DeBruyne, Jesus, Sterling, Aguerro, etc. etc. but if we are going to play 
with the same kind of philosophy that Man City currently have it's going to be 
an exciting season. I am of the age now where I just want to enjoy my team, I'd 
much rather watch football as it's supposed to be played rather than watch a 
Mourinho side grind out wins that restrict players lik
 e Pogba to bit part roles. I want to be f*cking entertained and it sounds like 
we'll get that with Bielsa, though of course the "entertainment" might be goals 
flying in at the wrong end!

I've watched enough kids football to see that lumping the ball forward 
endlessly can be effective but it's bloody boring to watch.

What I really loved about the days of "O'Leary's Babies" (yeah I hate that 
phrase too) was that before every game I knew I was going to see a team go out 
and just bloody well go for it, and try to batter the opposition into 
submission by attacking attacking attacking. Then Brian Kidd came in and 
O'Leary tried to go all "Champions league" and play cautiously.


Jeremy




From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 7:41:38 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] MB presser

Quite impressed and a bit different from the usual cliche ridden stuff
Loved the way he replied when he was asked about his football philosophy for 
the second time - managed to be self effacing and cut down the journo at the 
same time - " I thought I had already said it but must have done a bad 
job hope I explained it better this time and sorry for the rest of you 
who got it first time round"
Clearly he wants us to attack, attack attack - which (if it happens will be 
well received by the fans -I do recall Uwe Rossler and his heavy metal football 
which we saw in his first game v Burnley and never saw again!)
He wants us to be fluid, in their faces, keep the ball, attack with pace and 
play it on the deck - sounds like a good idea
Implied that Vieira being sold was not his idea and may be a bad decision 
especially with Forshaw injured for 6-8 weeks (and we know how that time scale 
tends to get extended at ER)
As for Sunday he said BPF will be in goals, Pontus will not play (so expect 
Berardi) and Forshaw injured. Did say that Bamford and Harrison will be able to 
play .
So expect - BPF - Cooper, Phillips, Berardi- Ayling & Douglas- Klich (for 
Forshaw) - Bamford up top. Then take your pick from Baker, Roberts , Harrison 
as newbies vs any of Roofe, Alioski, Dallas, Saiz, Hernandez as part of the 3 
behind the striker
Really cannot wait to get started (both me and MB)DavePS just had email re 
Bremner stone and I am in Eddie Gray bit
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Re: [LU] Harrison from Wiki - not a clue what it all means

[Jeremy Adams]

I actually think Harrison was a real highlight for NYCFC when I watched them 
play. Of course this is the MLS but that's probably Championship level.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:44:48 AM
To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Harrison from Wiki - not a clue what it all means

it means he's shit !
On Monday, 30 July 2018, 11:17:43 BST, nat...@sky.com  
wrote:

 and Harrison entered the 2016 MLS SuperDraft as the youngest available player. 
On 14 January 2016, he was selected as the #1 overall pick in the 2016 MLS 
SuperDraft by Chicago Fire and traded to New York City for the #4 overall pick 
and allocation money
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Re: [LU] Paul Madeley

[Jeremy Adams]

The man was a rolls royce of a player.



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Steve Gillen 

Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 5:22:21 PM
To: John Boocock
Cc: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Paul Madeley

Oh dear oh dear no

Very sad for such an icon to be lost... RIP

> On 23 Jul 2018, at 21:39, John Boocock  wrote:
>
> Sadly no longer with us :-(
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[LU] YEP down?

[Jeremy Adams]

Can't seem to access any YEP pages, are others having the same problem?



Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Not so much coming home, more thinking about whether to ring first (was Re: Tippy Tappy)

[Jeremy Adams]

Very glad to be proven wrong. I thought overall England deserved that win. 
Agree about Columbia being cynical, there were very lucky not to get a red for 
that headbutt, if the ref had called that it may have stopped all the other 
stuff. I thought Sterling was starting to come good in that game, he at least 
kept going at players despite it not working most of the time, I suspect Alli 
is carrying an injury, he just seems half a step off the pace the whole time. 
The issue is Alli is someone who has a bit of creativity in their game and can 
make things happen when he's on song, he's just not firing on any cylinders at 
this cup, I'd replace him with Loftus cheek for the next game, especially as I 
think the Swedes will be fairly physical.

Since I predicted we'd lose to Columbia and we won I'm going to predict Sweden 
will win this game!


Jezza


From: John Lee 
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 5:54:17 AM
To: Jeremy Adams; Brendan McWilliams; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Not so much coming home, more thinking about whether to ring first 
(was Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy)

Very glad you were incorrect Jez re Ingerland, although that was one hell of a 
tough watch. What a bunch of cynical c***s Colombia were - credit England for, 
in the main, not getting involved. Refs need to get on top of the whole team 
compaining thing too. It should be like it Rugby League, when only the captain 
has direct speaking rights unless called over.

Anyway, the sheer relief of Dier's penalty, and I thought he'd been rubbish the 
whole time he was on, was ecstasy. It was exactly what Colombia deserved. There 
were flashes of decent play in England's performance, but some big issues too - 
Stirling and Alli have been complete passengers and I'd switch that around. 
Plus Ashley Young - he's really not a left back.

At least we can't play against another S American team until the final, but I'm 
hoping Belgium will sort Brazil out.

John




Best team for me right now is France. Girouard starting up front seems to keep 
the defenders busy and that creates space for Mbappe to exploit (and exploit it 
he did against the Argies!) The you have Griezeman's intelligent play, and 
Kante's intelligent play and breaking up of attacks. Pogba, when he can be 
arsed and plays further up the field can unlock defences with a great pass. 
Defensively they are a tad weak but I suspect they'll continue to outscore 
their opponents. Uruguay look very organized and in Suarez have a game changer 
so they could be a real challenger too. Brazil are starting to click but I 
still suspect they have a bad game in them if something starts to go wrong. 
Belgium were a little lucky with the first goal against Japan ( i really dont 
believe that was anything other than a header back into the box) which 
completely changed the momentum in that game but they also look pretty strong.

England to go out to Columbia today I'm afraid.

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Re: [LU] Algerian incomer??

[Jeremy Adams]

Yes full credit to Japan for taking the game to Belgium and not playing for a 
draw (though this is what cost them the game, most underdog teams would have 
tried to time waste that last corner kick) I thought they looked a real handful 
and if they had a little more experience in how to see out games would have won 
yesterday.



From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 8:41:10 AM
To: Richard Naef; Michael Benjamin; Matt Anderson; John Lee
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Algerian incomer??

And fast aggressive skillful football which was a joy to watch. Thank God we 
got Colombia!
Nick
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 4:54:38 AM EDT, {broken-address} John Lee 
 wrote:

 Agreed Richard - watching Japan was an object lesson in how to react to 
misses, tackles etc - either with a wry smile, a 'very brief' outburst of 
frustration, and then getting on with the job. Compare and contrast with 
Neymar, who was unfortunate enough to roll onto a tazer, repeatedly! What an 
utter !

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Michael Benjamin ; Matt Anderson 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Monday, 2 July 2018, 22:04
 Subject: Re: [LU] Algerian incomer??

Well, don't know about their footie skills, but I like the almost complete lack 
of cheating and simulation.  If I was a parent of young kids I'm not sure I'd 
want them to watch him "play football"

ttfn

Richard

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From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Michael Benjamin
Sent: 02 July 2018 20:23
To: Matt Anderson 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Algerian incomer??

Watching Japan and wondering about our Japanese guy? Are we underestimating him 
too?

Dr  Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist.

SKYPE: BEDENOGA
PHONE: +972-505-317772
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myRay: Online CBT

|-Original Message-
|From: Matt Anderson 
|Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:51 PM
|To: Michael Benjamin 
|Cc: Leeds List 
|Subject: Re: [LU] Algerian incomer??
|
|Offered a contract and thinking about it. He is an Algerian
|international
|
|Sent from my iPhone
|
|> On 2 Jul 2018, at 20:49, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
|>
|> Can you translate?
|>
|> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
|> Community Psychiatrist.
|>
|> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
|> PHONE: +972-505-317772
|> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
|> myRay: Online CBT
|>
|> |-Original Message-
|> |From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Matt
|> |Anderson
|> |Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:45 PM
|> |To: Leeds List 
|> |Subject: [LU] Algerian incomer??
|> |
|> |Thinking about it apparently
|> |
|> |[Info @DZfoot] Baghdad Bounedjah disposerait d’une offre de la part
|> |de @LUFC club entraîné par Marcelo Bielsa. Contacts avancés entre
|> |les parties pour un transfert définitif, le joueur aurait décidé de
|> |prendre un
|temps de réflexion.
|> |#MercatoDZ @LesVerts
|> |
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Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

[Jeremy Adams]

If you read the book(s) on Pep you'll see that he's against Tiki Takka (or 
tippy tappy). Yes he plays a possession based game but he intends his 
possession to have purpose and for it to include passes that split defences, 
and he encourages players to take on defenders in the last third of the pitch. 
I think Pep has been instrumental in the improvement in Sterling's play (still 
no end product admittedly) in that he got Sterling to hold his position much 
better than he used to. Sterling used to run around like a maniac in an effort 
to get the ball when in actual fact you're generally better off trying to find 
a pocket of space and waiting for your team mates to find you.


It is hard for teams like Spain to break down defensive teams like Russia, and 
long balls into the box are not the answer (Lord knows we've seen that fail 
enough with England over the years.)


Best team for me right now is France. Girouard starting up front seems to keep 
the defenders busy and that creates space for Mbappe to exploit (and exploit it 
he did against the Argies!) The you have Griezeman's intelligent play, and 
Kante's intelligent play and breaking up of attacks. Pogba, when he can be 
arsed and plays further up the field can unlock defences with a great pass. 
Defensively they are a tad weak but I suspect they'll continue to outscore 
their opponents. Uruguay look very organized and in Suarez have a game changer 
so they could be a real challenger too. Brazil are starting to click but I 
still suspect they have a bad game in them if something starts to go wrong. 
Belgium were a little lucky with the first goal against Japan ( i really dont 
believe that was anything other than a header back into the box) which 
completely changed the momentum in that game but they also look pretty strong.


England to go out to Columbia today I'm afraid.


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Brendan McWilliams 

Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 8:25:14 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; John Lee
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

Hiya,


unquestionably Spain were flippin' dire yesterday. Quite how none of them 
caught on themselves that they needed to go long, use the wings or run at them 
is beyond us all.


However, a comparison with City though can't be made, nor is it fair to tie 
fully Spain's way of playing with Guardiola - in fact, Guardiola has moved on, 
but Spain hasn't.


In any case, Spain's style precedes Guardiola somewhat. Spain won Euro 2008 
with Luis Aragones (Pep became FCB manager in 2008) so they were already 
playing possession football - but they had runners: Torres (yes, he did run), 
Villa and Pedro.  This Spain put on the runners ONLY at the end to complement 
Costa with Aspas & Moreno - but by then it was too late.


The Pep comparison is also irrelevant as Man City do not play against teams who 
in a nutshell refuse to play. There's not one EPL team that would dare to play 
for a 0-0 draw - their own fans would boo them off the pitch and the coach 
would be sacked in a question of weeks.


In the WC it's of paramount importance to NOT lose your 1st game, and given 
that there's only 3 x group games, shutting-up-shop and playing for a draw is 
commonplace against the top seed.  Thus Spain (and most #1 seeds) end up 
playing against blanket defences resulting in awful tedious games until they 
get more equal opposition in the knockout stage and they can play (see France).


I can't remember the last team to take it to Spain properly - probably Holland 
4 years ago - but all my excuses above are just that - they got it badly wrong.


Anyhow, enough of my homily - not hard to see I'm a bit biased!!


BMW



From: John Lee 
Sent: 02 July 2018 11:46
To: Brendan McWilliams; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

Much of what you say I agree with. On Spain however, the sheer lack of 
willingness to probe was what lead to their elimination. Teams have always 
parked the bus, and whilst it can be as boring as hell, it is not their job to 
help Spain beat them. Man City employ a variety of the type of football Spain 
could have employed - possesion based but with a cutting edge, and hard 
pressing to get back any lost ball. They could have played Costa + 1 up front, 
but they didn't. And, when push came to shove, they took some really poor 
penalties. That is genuinely surprising given their pass accuracy rate, but of 
course most of that is along their back line with no pressure. I would just 
have liked them to have really had a go - they could have won the thing!

Great World Cup? Well, clearly a personal view. Refs have been good to very 
good, VAR usually a positive, stadia look great, no reports of bad stuff going 
on (aside from the ticket touting for England's game tomorrow in particular). 
But are there teams you can't wait to watch, who you know will provide real 
entertainment as well as having footballing ability? Less sure about that. 

[LU] Tatty Bye

[Jeremy Adams]

Angela Merkel, Boris Becker, Heidi Klum, Karl Lagerfeld, Michael Schumacher, 
Claudia Schiffer, your boys took one hell of a beating!



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Re: [LU] Hexit close ?

[Jeremy Adams]

If we do get Bielsa,  (I still think that's a long shot) then yes it's a risk 
but at least it's a very exciting one!

Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Hexit close ?

Phil Hay is reporting that Heck is getting the order of the boot - whislt he is 
not 100% he is pretty close to things and generally gets stuff like this correct
He is unsure about the new manager but reckons a few have mentioned Bielsa - 
another big gamble if true
Dave
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Re: [LU] Wilderness years

[Jeremy Adams]

Didn't grow up in Leeds so missed all that stuff, I only got to go to the away 
games down south as a kid. However I certainly remember those days in general 
and the atmosphere at the games! Was never one for a spot of bother but the 
thrill of walking to the games with a load of Leeds fans was incredible. It 
just doesn't seem the same anymore, and certainly not in the US.
However I really hope the fashion from that era doesn't come back anytime soon! 
Those flares and that hair is just ridiculous!

Jeremy

From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 9:43 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Wilderness years

I know that things are quiet apart from loads of crap media transfer 
speculation but I have just been reminded about the 'wilderness series' on 
youtube - re-watched number 14 which shows the Man City game with the infamous 
McQueen punch on Harvey, the pitch invasion and just general mayhem
Got in big trouble with the Mrs watching one of the early ones - when we played 
Scum and it shows us all on the big hill running all over the place chasing 
scum being chased by them , being chased by the police and just general running 
around - great memories that brought back some fun times or "F---ing Grow Up " 
as my Mrs said
If you have not seen them or not watched for a while they are a great way to 
spend a sunny afternoon in the garden !
Dave
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[LU] Hernandez staying

[Jeremy Adams]

Good news. Though of course this means he'll be rubbish next season.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-is-a-special-club-reveals-pablo-hernandez-1-9136709
[https://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_620,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/webimage/1.9136708.1524746547!/image/image.jpg]

Leeds United is a special club, reveals Pablo 
Hernandez
Leeds United playmaker Pablo Hernandez say he wants to "achieve something" at a 
"special club" after putting pen to paper on a new two-year contract at Elland 
Road.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk


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Re: [LU] Another PR masterstroke!

[Jeremy Adams]

Well Leeds aren't backing down. Yet.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/25/leeds-owner-defends-myanmar-tour-andrea-radrizzani

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:21 PM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Another PR masterstroke!

It's not the just the guardian and BBC reporting this (some of the only western 
journalists on the ground) , but the EU, UN, MSF & the vast majority of NGO's 
who have worked in the country, Amnesty have been very vocal, so I'm afraid 
your argument that it's some lefty snowflake conspiracy doesn't wash.And 
also, while it's true a few years ago Aung San Suu Kyi was the darling of the 
left, it's they who have been very vocal in their condemnation of her lack of 
action on the genocide and the actions of a minority of powerful Buddhist 
nationalist groups.

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 24 April 2018 20:01
To: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Another PR masterstroke!

Yep that’s true! I just wish I was going to the games.

My point wasn’t me as an expert it was everyone being sucked in by the virtue 
signaling narrative.



Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Apr 2018, at 18:52, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Doesn't really matter what you think or even if you're right though Matt. The 
> Guardian aren't going to release another piece "We were wrong, LUFC well 
> within their rights to tour Myanmar after developing country expert Matt 
> Anderson told us so."
>
>> On 24 April 2018 at 19:48, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:
>> I have worked there and I work with developing countries. I’m actually in 
>> Mauritania at the moment then off to Senegal on Thursday. I don’t have a 
>> bubble I have experience
>>
>> The bubble is virtue signalling guardian journalists and BBC who think they 
>> can impose their standards on the rest of the world.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 24 Apr 2018, at 18:42, Ben Thorpe <bstho...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you don't know what the regime has to do with this Matt, then i'll let 
>> > you tuck right back into your bubble.
>> >
>> > From: Matt Anderson
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 19:27
>> > Subject: Re: [LU] Another PR masterstroke!
>> > To: Ben Thorpe
>> > Cc: Jeremy Adams, leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> >
>> >
>> > As a place to visit and see football, temples history etc.
>> >
>> > Not quite sure what a regime has to do with accessing thousands of fans 
>> > worldwide and playing football
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On 24 Apr 2018, at 17:58, Ben Thorpe <bstho...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not quite sure what something being "lovely" has to do with this.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Matt Anderson
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 18:14
>> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Another PR masterstroke!
>> >> To: Jeremy Adams
>> >> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Not convinced by this outrage Two years ago we were kissing Aung San Suu 
>> >> Kyi’s arse. Myanmar is lovely and Yangon a great city! Sent from my 
>> >> iPhone > On 24 Apr 2018, at 16:23, Jeremy Adams wrote: > > 
>> >> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/24/leeds-united-disgraceful-myanmar-tour-yangon
>> >>  > > We really know how to get ourselves in hot water. I'm surprised we 
>> >> haven't followed in Everton's footsteps yet and sent a rating poll about 
>> >> our manager out to the fans. > 
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[LU] Another PR masterstroke!

[Jeremy Adams]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/24/leeds-united-disgraceful-myanmar-tour-yangon

We really know how to get ourselves in hot water. I'm surprised we haven't 
followed in Everton's footsteps yet and sent a rating poll about our manager 
out to the fans.
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[LU] Victor Orta

[Jeremy Adams]

This should please a number of folk, apparently he's quitting the club.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/radrizzani-left-with-huge-decision-as-big-name-is-set-to-quit-leeds
[http://d3vlf99qeg6bpx.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2018/04/20142541/Andrea-Radrizzani.png]

Radrizzani left with huge decision as big name is set to quit Leeds | 
teamtalk.com
Andrea Radrizzani will have a big decision to make should there be truth in the 
reports suggesting Leeds United director of football Victor Orta is set to quit.
www.teamtalk.com


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Re: [LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

[Jeremy Adams]

It'll be a "hungrier" squad Dave because they'll be cutting back on the chips 
and beans at the Thorp Arch cafeteria when they're in league 1.

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of nat...@sky.com 
<nat...@sky.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:30 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

How can he be surprised given the results and performances since he came in ?
Two most worrying quotes, to me. "We’re going to have to work hard because 
we’ve seen the calibre of players who are in this league, the calibre of clubs. 
But it doesn’t mean we can’t do it if we’re all on the same page, 
over-achieving and building a hungry, competitive squad."and then "It’ll be a 
smaller squad and a hungrier squad"
Why, when we have the biggest crowds, most TV appearances and right up there 
with biggest income (bar parachute payments) , can't we buy that calibre of 
player so that they just need to do well not 'over-achieve' ?Also given that, 
due to injuries we are playing two non full backs as full back and will be 
starting with at least one young inexperienced centre half and no recognised 
midfield player on the bench v Villa, isn't the squad already too small ?
Dave






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 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2018, 15:50
 Subject: [LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-boss-heckingbottom-surprised-over-talk-of-elland-road-future-1-9112536
[https://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_620,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/webimage/1.9112535.1523542698!/image/image.jpg]<https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-boss-heckingbottom-surprised-over-talk-of-elland-road-future-1-9112536>

Leeds United boss Heckingbottom 'surprised' over talk of Elland Road 
future<https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-boss-heckingbottom-surprised-over-talk-of-elland-road-future-1-9112536>
Paul Heckingbottom said speculation about his future as head coach had 
“surprised everyone” at Leeds United as he insisted he would be given the 
chance to take the club’s squad into next season.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk<http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk>



Yes if I'd lost as many games as he has I'd be completely surprised if the 
possibility of being sacked was being bandied about on social media too.

Jeremy

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[LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

[Jeremy Adams]

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-boss-heckingbottom-surprised-over-talk-of-elland-road-future-1-9112536
[https://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_620,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/webimage/1.9112535.1523542698!/image/image.jpg]

Leeds United boss Heckingbottom 'surprised' over talk of Elland Road 
future
Paul Heckingbottom said speculation about his future as head coach had 
“surprised everyone” at Leeds United as he insisted he would be given the 
chance to take the club’s squad into next season.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk



Yes if I'd lost as many games as he has I'd be completely surprised if the 
possibility of being sacked was being bandied about on social media too.

Jeremy

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Re: [LU] Any links?

[Jeremy Adams]

Kev said
What constitutes denial of a goalscoring opportunity?

For me that was a clear red card, I realise the rules may say different, I 
think the rule should change. In a situation like that when it's so blatant 
that he is dong his best to just take a player out without any regard for 
trying to play the ball and said player is heading towards goal and there's a 
very good chance of creating a goal scoring opportunity then it should be a 
straight red. That was a cynical/professional foul and is worse in my opinion 
than a player shoving another player which seems to get a straight red almost 
every time

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Kevin Lewis (UK 
SBS) 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 4:25 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Any links?

Totally agree with Jeremy that however well the team defends, not particularly 
well last night but been worse, they never look like scoring.

Even though it happens quickly it is strange that  you can size up the 
situation.  My first thought as I saw Ekuban go through and when the ball was 
heading for Grot, was 'Bet he misses'.  Just like it used to be for any striker 
we've had in the last 12 years other than Hulse, Beckford, Becchio (oddly), 
McCormack and Wood (For 1 of his seasons).

5-6 out of 10 for everyone last night.  Dallas seems to have got everyone's ire 
up, but is he much worse than any of the other right backs available?
Ditto Berardi on the left.  It is a bit of a broken record with me at the 
moment, but a team will never have any balance with right-footed players all 
the way up the left hand side.  At least Alioski & Dallas on the right give us 
options to come inside and outside.

Whilst Hernandez and Vierra provide quality and drive respectively, they both 
give the ball away a lot  in their own half.

Did I actually spot a player that was slower than Lasogga last night?  Surely 
he has never got away from anyone before.  I was quite relieved when the bloke 
brought him down, as it saved him embarrassing himself by having to run another 
10 yards.

Lastly, a question for the refs:-
What constitutes denial of a goalscoring opportunity?
It pisses me off when I hear a discussion as to whether the person who 
infringed was the last man and whether someone might have got round to cover?
As far as I know, there is nothing in the law book about the 'last man'.  But 
it may be that refs are meant to use this as a guideline.
Whilst I realise that Lasogga was  extremely unlikely to score, or even create 
an opportunity had he not been fouled by McDonald last night, McDonald himself 
clearly thought it was a dangerous situation.  Lasogga did not have the pace to 
get through on goal, but what if it had been that Traore from Boro?  He would 
have been through from there.  Are referees  meant to take that into account?

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Re: [LU] Any links?

[Jeremy Adams]

I agree with Rich. We were the better team second half, albeit at 2-0 they were 
content to sit back and soak up any pressure.
We just don't have someone who looks remotely like scoring, say what you like 
about Wood, and I certainly slagged him off a lot, he can stick the ball in the 
back of the net. Even Becchio could do that sometimes. Lasogga, Grot, and 
Ekuban just never look like scoring in a million years.
Saiz will never bother staying with this team and I suspect the same about 
Hernandez.
Heck doesn't inspire any confidence in me, I hope he goes at the end of the 
season, I just don't see us getting promoted under him, I can't figure out what 
his philosophy or plan is beyond just hustle. We need to invest in a decent 
manager and get rid of Victor Orta.
PS. Has Ekuban ever converted a 1 on 1?
Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:47 PM
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: leedslist; {broken-address} Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Any links?

totally outclassed first half, second half thought we were the better team and 
it's fine margins.
Ekuban scores and its a different story. Grot scores and we're back in and they 
shit themselves.
For me, I thought we showed real grit seond half. The Leeds fans are singing at 
the end , I think they saw real fight in that second half.
Scors:
Peacock - 7. One good save, he looks a bit docile to me.
Beradi - 7. Battled hard.
Dallas - 4. Not good enough
Jansson - 5. Stuggled
Pennington - 5. Struggled
Siaz - 7. Tried too much, got caught in possession but still our greates threat
Hernandez - 6. Good and bad (some real bad)
Vierra - 6. Good and bad (some real bad) - improved massively second half
Allioski - 4. Poor
Ekuban - 1. Poor
Subs:
Philips - 8 Thought he was great second half.
Lasogga - did ok
Grot - what a miss
Much better that second half for me
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 21:39:03 BST, Matt Anderson 
 wrote:

 Had turned off by then

Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Apr 2018, at 21:35, Richard Walker  wrote:


 maybe, but I still maintain that we have give it a real go this half and 
Ekuban,  Grot, Allioski and Lasogga  (hacked down) could have had goals.
I also think Philips has had a good half - looks really controlled and battled 
hard (don't often say that)
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 21:31:41 BST, Matt Anderson 
 wrote:

 I think there are only 4 of these I would be content to see on the pitch in 
August; Saiz jansson viera and Hernandez


Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Apr 2018, at 21:17, Richard Walker  wrote:


 I think we've been good and we are continuing to battle and move forward. My 
expectations levels may be low but this is what I want to see.
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 21:16:05 BST, Matt Anderson 
 wrote:

 Also Alioski can’t be offside like he was, Viera broke up momentum with a 
shite shot and you can’t defend a counter attack with plenty of bodies like 
that.
Not quite sure what you enjoyed this half. Just had a bit more possession/ 
energy before fucking it up.






Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Apr 2018, at 21:11, Richard Walker  wrote:


 ekuban can't miss chances like that.
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 21:10:38 BST, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
 wrote:

  credit to us - I thnk we've really give it some this half. Enjoying it now.
On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 20:46:33 BST, Jim Moran  
wrote:

 Don't bother.

On 3 April 2018 at 19:59, Matt Anderson  wrote:

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[LU] Another Serie B player coming apparently

[Jeremy Adams]

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/leeds-have-verbal-agreement-over-e5m-summer-transfer
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Leeds have verbal agreement over €5m summer transfer | 
teamtalk.com
Leeds are reportedly closing in on a summer deal for Carpi striker Jerry 
Mbakogu.
www.teamtalk.com




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Re: [LU] Liam Miller

[Jeremy Adams]

Only 36 Years old. RIP

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ian Murray 

Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 7:34 PM
To: Richard Naef; leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Liam Miller

That's so tragic.

I was at Southampton and will never forget. Vale.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Richard Naef 
Date: 10/02/2018 08:15 (GMT+08:00)
To: leedslist 
Subject: [LU] Liam Miller

Liam Miller Died today not unexpected, but such a young age, must be terrible 
for his family and friends.  I'm sure they have many treasured memories FWIW 
that afternoon at Southampton will stay with me.  RIP ALAW.

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[LU] Transfer window - did we do okay?

[Jeremy Adams]

Any thoughts on how we did in the window? Biggest unkown for me is Roberts, 
seems a lot of money for an unproven striker who doesn't seem to score much. 
Forshaw and DeBock seem decent additions.

Jeremy

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[LU] God's own country

[Jeremy Adams]

Something to take your mind off the crest debacle.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/26/yorkshire-football-team-stateless-peoples-league-isle-of-man-pontefract
[https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3755cda230987a332b69dda41161a39237f31c92/0_68_5184_3110/master/5184.jpg?w=1200=630=55=format=12=crop=faces%2Centropy=normal=bottom%2Cleft=aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxvYWRzLmd1aW0uY28udWsvMjAxOC8wMS8xOC9mYWNlYm9va19kZWZhdWx0LnBuZw=29c874b0d286ddcfaf8f6ef51e39fa22]

Yorkshire football team set for debut in league of stateless 
peoples
Players who trained together for first time last weekend will take on Isle of 
Man in Pontefract
www.theguardian.com



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[LU] Guardian site

[Jeremy Adams]

The Guardian has a list of top Championship players that might get poached this 
window. Luckily Saiz is not on it...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2018/jan/10/championship-players-transfer-window-premier-league-clubs
[https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b6dcef1efbdd37d13f6caa43d1d8f9028d9cece7/0_0_2419_1451/master/2419.jpg?w=1200=630=55=format=12=crop=faces%2Centropy=normal=bottom%2Cleft=aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxvYWRzLmd1aW0uY28udWsvMjAxNi8wNS8yNS9vdmVybGF5LWxvZ28tMTIwMC05MF9vcHQucG5n=9d769e2d8f19ead737894f599695c03d]

Seven Championship players who should interest Premier League 
clubs
A few of the Championship’s best players were on show in the FA Cup over the 
weekend. Here are seven who could step up to the top flight this month
www.theguardian.com




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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Jeremy Adams]

That's no fun! Oh never mind, he's reaching out to me directly now, the fun 
never ends!


Best,


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:08:04 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Just walked in the door comrades.

Problem solved.

Betty


On 02/11/2017 13:23, {broken-address} Graham White wrote:
> Where is Aunt Betty when you need her???

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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Jeremy Adams]

Of course! This is Voice of Football disguised as a bitter old man intent on 
breaking up the list! The reference to other teams being better than Leeds 
would tie in with Voicey's secret love of Man United, his desire to wind up 
every single last person on the list is consistent with Voicey's actions in the 
past, as is his determination to have the last word on everything. Welcome back 
Voice of Football, we missed you! I have to say this is one of your best 
disguises yet, I genuinely thought you were just incredibly irritating but know 
I get it, should have known no one could have been that much of a twat!


Jeremy

The even bigger legend.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Graham White 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:23:33 AM
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL; leedslist@gn.apc.org; Ian Murray
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Where is Aunt Betty when you need her???


Graham White



On Thursday, 2 November 2017, 13:52:42 CET, Ian Murray 
 wrote:

 Get fucked



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: GRAHAM THIRKILL 
Date: 02/11/2017 20:51 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray , leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Thanks for your message Ian. I enjoyed it (:-))


Thirkers


On Thursday, 2 November 2017, 12:47, Ian Murray  
wrote:


I haven't dished out anything..

Get fucked.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: GRAHAM THIRKILL 
Date: 02/11/2017 20:27 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray , leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Typical lister as always.YOU LIKE TO DISH IT OUT BUT YOU ARE NOT AT ALL 
GOOD AT TAKING IT ARE YOU SUNSHINE. You and your crew, slag off the players the 
directors the managers the coaches almost every team you play against, plus all 
the the top Premier League Clubs and everyone under the sun..is that a 
fact Well you are getting a little bit of what you dish out...ok
Thirkers .I won't add (The Legend) it appears to be upsetting you listers a 
little but you know who I am, that's more than I can say for most of you 
lothave a good day.
PS. If I'm a stupid old cunt, pray what on earth are 
you...Sunshine??
You could get banned for using the "C" word, that's very funny, but very naughty


Show original message
On Thursday, 2 November 2017, 12:02, Ian Murray  
wrote:


Can someone just ban this stupid old cunt?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: GRAHAM THIRKILL 
Date: 02/11/2017 19:56 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray , leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Turn the fucking phone off, Iv'e advised that already..WhimpHow old 
are you?? Grow up, face life.
Life isn't all roses. If you whinge publicly, about other people, especially, 
Professional Medical people
like Dr. Micael Benjamin, you get answered publcly, with the insults you 
deserve. Is that perfectly clear.
You are not fit to lick Dr Michael Benjamin's boots. Say what you want about me 
and that individual Heath,
but Professional Medical people who have committed their life to helping their 
community, deserve the
utmost respect...OK sunshineget it?

Quote "How does this play out if I actually was depressed? Quote" As I 
advised get professional help,

Quote, "You're just a very annoying and sad individual and I'd rather not have 
you electronically interrupting
my day with your shit posts, thanks."..

And you whoever you think you are, are a very sad whimp who sounds like a 
mummy's boy and should be more
respectful to professional people.

I hope I haven't hurt your feelings again.get over it...I don't 
normally waste as much of my time with people
like you but I have nothing better to do today so you are very, very fortunate.

Another hilarious Quote from your reply
"I'd rather not have you electronically interrupting my day with your shit 
posts, thanks".

...That is just wonderful, "electronically interupting my day" how old 
are you are you a male


That's all for now Ian
Thirkers, (The Legend)



On Thursday, 2 November 2017, 11:04, Ian Murray  
wrote:


What the fuck is this?

Im fine thanks but to be honest this response is ridiculous. How does this play 
out if I actually was depressed? What would your post achieve?

You're just a very annoying and sad individual and and I'd rather not have you 
electronically interrupting my day with your shit posts, thanks



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 

Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Jeremy Adams]

He used to be mildly amusing but now it's just boring. Voice of Football? 
Maggie Barber? Now there were folk who knew how to stir the pot!!


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Peter Castlehouse 

Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:55:12 AM
To: '{broken-address}'; 'GRAHAM THIRKILL'
Cc: 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

My last memory of this bloke Thirkers was at a List Meet at the Adelphi around 
the turn of the century, where he brought along a carrier bag full - I shit you 
not - of Hula Hoops!  Yes, Hula Hoops!  At least Kewell scored to take us to 
victory, and I had Betty Boocock as Mein Host pre/during/post game!   Not sure 
what perverse idea was going through his mind with that carrier bag at the 
time, and I call upon the good Dr Mike to analyse that one.
His last attempt at feeble humour at my expense was to mis-spell my surname 
into derivatives of it, Castleford, Castleton, et cetera.   So sad, and I'd 
like to collect a quid for every time it's happened, either in jest or is all 
seriousness.
I also have it on good authority that the supply of incontinence pads to the 
North-East has grown since he re-joined the list.   Sadly, his recent 
contributions consist of blathering on about our third-rate team, and how much 
better the Premmy League teams are doing!
Perhaps Thirkers is trying to emulate the legend and self-effacing ex-God of 
the list, the one and only Voice Of Football, but he is pathetically failing on 
every facet.
As we used to say in the Forces about such people as Thirkers... 'tries hard, 
fails miserably, but works well under constant supervision...'
ALAW?
Pete C
t'original one

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address}
Sent: 01 November 2017 20:20
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

I doubt I’m alone when wondering why this chump keeps posting this crap, but I 
content myself that he is of an age where he probably shits himself twice a 
week! That’s satisfying enough!

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 07:57, GRAHAM THIRKILL  
> wrote:
>
> Nicholas Armit armitn at yahoo.com  quote I thought we did fine first
> half and even though they had some pressure second they were nowhere
> near as good as Sheffield Utd quote
>
> The stats say Leeds had only 40% to Derby's 60% of the play in the
> first half, so you must have missed quite a bit of the game, unless it
> was those rose tinted spectacles of yours..hahahahaha You experts have
> just three days to sort out the team selection, management problens,
> player problems, tactics laundry, boot cleaning, sweeping the stands,
> cutting the grass  and all the other problems you wannabee managers
> have to discuss, hahahahaha Remember, it's only a game you have a
> rubbish team get used to it, you should know better after all these
> years in the third and second division that you are in now. What is it
> now, five games on the trot lost, it's only 15 points plus another 3
> on Saturday at Brentford maybe yiu are on a roll for a club
> recordhahahahaha Anyhow leedslisters, I hope my message has cheered
> you all up. I can't imagine how it feels for all of you.it must be
> terrible, FIVE OUT OF DEFEATS IN THE SECOND DIVISION AFTER BEING ON
> TOP FOR 5 MINUTES Not so loud Cheers & Beers,Thirkers, (The Legend)
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Jeremy Adams]

Just to keep this all going, as it seems about the only active thread in this 
list. Where does Thirkers now stand in all this? Is he banned too or is his 
rant all fine? I'm not really bothered either way, just felt like lighting some 
blue touch paper and standing back since it's just about Guy Fawkes time..


Hat on,

Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Neil 

Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:01:35 AM
To: E Walsh
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Rob Heath
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I don’t contribute much, but I think you should stay.

That post was wonderful. If Heath’s book is as well written as your post I will 
buy it.

It was not nice, but it was funny as hell.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:59 AM, E Walsh 
> wrote:

Personally I think you should stay.
I enjoy your comments.
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:45, Michael Benjamin 
> wrote:

I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but:
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning.
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback.
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great 
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk]
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' >; 
'Peter Castlehouse' >; 
Michael Benjamin >; 'Rob Heath' 
>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on.
From: Peter Castlehouse 
>
To: 'Michael Benjamin' >; 'Rob Heath' 
>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the poi

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Re: [LU] 25 goals - 11 different scorers this season

[Jeremy Adams]

Makes for nice reading to see goals coming from so many different players!



From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:11:04 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] 25 goals - 11 different scorers this season

Sáiz 6Roofe 5Phillips 3Lasogga 2Dallas 2Hernández 2Ekuban 1Vieira 1Alioski 
1Sacko 1W̶o̶o̶d̶ 1
Not a single defender (nor O'Kane) have got on the scoresheet (yet)
Dave
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Re: [LU] Carabou cup

[Jeremy Adams]

I agree, I think it's starting to get far enough along in this tin pot cup that 
teams like Leicester begin to view it as an opportunity to win some silverware 
and will field a strong side. It's only two games away from a semi final spot!


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:54:07 AM
To: Alec McQueen
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Carabou cup

I don't think it'll be their 2nd team.


> On 21 Sep 2017, at 04:39, Alec McQueen  wrote:
>
> Can we catch the Leicester 2nd X1 on the hop?
> Cheers
> A
>
> On 21 September 2017 at 07:55, Richard Naef > wrote:
>
>> Leicester at CrispBowl
>>
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[LU] Gestede and others?

[Jeremy Adams]

Rumours we are close to getting Gestede? All I know about him is my Villa 
supporting mate was over the moon when he went to Boro. Felt he was rubbish, 
lazy, and generally couldn't be arsed.


Anyone know anything about this Grot chappy?
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Re: [LU] Wood

[Jeremy Adams]

He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:20:29 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Wood

Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, medical today.
If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 million 
for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was Cellino he'd 
be getting slated,

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[LU] North Ferriby United

[Jeremy Adams]

Seems like this is a stroll in the park, 1-0 at halftime but it should have 
been loads more. Do these friendlies really tell us anything?


Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

[Jeremy Adams]

Can I keep going John as this is a lot of fun or do I have to set up a separate 
irony list too? I could also set up a list where I can clarify how I am right 
on pretty much everything.


Jeremy Mastermind Adams.


From: John Lee <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 5:52:17 AM
To: Jeremy Adams; Graham Thirkill; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

I actually thought Thirkers must be American, given the lack of grasp oif irony 
:-)

Why tennis keeps coming up on here I've no idea - who gives a sh*t about it - 
actually loads, but I'm sure there are more appropriate sites to post your 
regard/love of Andy Murray than this one, where I suspect the majority couldn't 
give a monkeys. Anyway, if there is a desire to talk tennis, please set up a 
separate maillist (like we have done for cycling) rather than adding tripe to 
our inboxes.

Lovely to see Theresa May being humbled. Going to see Sponger no 1 today to see 
about forming a government. She's over - game, set and match!





From: Jeremy Adams <jeremyadam...@hotmail.com>
To: Graham Thirkill <graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>; Leeds List 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2017, 16:40
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

Thanks Thirkers, since you replied to me off list I did the same to you but 
seems this is back on list.

I'm not sure it's boasting, I think it's just pride at my superior intelligence.

Not an American no.

I don't comment on things I don't know anything about such as that activity 
called tennis where a couple of farts bop a ball over some netting, I stick to 
things I am an authority on such as football. So sorry can't answer if there 
are any American "men" who are engaged in that activity.


Hope that helps.


Jeremy



From: Leedslist 
<leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> on behalf 
of Graham Thirkill 
<graham.thirki...@btinternet.com<mailto:graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>>
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:37:30 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?



> You boasted shamelessly but it didn’t surprise me one iota. I've seen your 
> "Jeremy Adams” boasts posts before;-


>From (Jeremy Adams) Can you believe this  (:-((  
> "I am indeed an authority on all these things Graham and much more. Hence 
> there's no need to add the "in my opinion" bit as I'm right."
>
> 
>
> I think you are talking a load of crap, exactly as you did in your original 
> post, and there’s no need to argue about this bit
> because I think I'm right also……….OK……chummy Are you an American………..Just 
> wondered???
>
> Do have a good day………..Do American “men" still play tennis
>
> Thirkers\098/
>
>
>

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Re: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

[Jeremy Adams]

Thanks Thirkers, since you replied to me off list I did the same to you but 
seems this is back on list.

I'm not sure it's boasting, I think it's just pride at my superior intelligence.

Not an American no.

I don't comment on things I don't know anything about such as that activity 
called tennis where a couple of farts bop a ball over some netting, I stick to 
things I am an authority on such as football. So sorry can't answer if there 
are any American "men" who are engaged in that activity.


Hope that helps.


Jeremy



From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Graham Thirkill 
<graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:37:30 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Fwd: Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?



> You boasted shamelessly but it didn’t surprise me one iota. I've seen your 
> "Jeremy Adams” boasts posts before;-


>From (Jeremy Adams) Can you believe this  (:-((  
> "I am indeed an authority on all these things Graham and much more. Hence 
> there's no need to add the "in my opinion" bit as I'm right."
>
> 
>
> I think you are talking a load of crap, exactly as you did in your original 
> post, and there’s no need to argue about this bit
> because I think I'm right also……….OK……chummy Are you an American………..Just 
> wondered???
>
> Do have a good day………..Do American “men" still play tennis
>
> Thirkers\098/
>
>
>

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[LU] Alan Pardew?

[Jeremy Adams]

Seems Alan Pardew's odds are now 10/11 to become the next Leeds manager. Did 
something happen overnight?

I think he could do a job for us. Thirkers will probably disagree with that 
though.


Best,


Jeremy

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Re: [LU] Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

[Jeremy Adams]

I am indeed an authority on all these things Graham and much more. Hence 
there's no need to add the "in my opinion" bit as I'm right.


Best,


Jeremy



From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Graham Thirkill 
<graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 9:10:43 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

Jeremy Adams said:

"Dave Nattan's post is spot on!”
---

Do you think it would be more reasonable to say:-

Dave Nattan’s post is spot on……….. in my opinion?

Unless of course you are some sort of authority on theses things….just 
wondered???

Have a good day,  (:-))

Cheers and Beers
Thirkers\098/

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Re: [LU] Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

[Jeremy Adams]

Dave Nattan's post is spot on!


From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:16:57 AM
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fwd: Subject: Anyone watching the French Open?

Surely that is the case with all fans of all teams - we all know better than 
the manager, and we all know what each player should do, and feel free to 
criticise them when they fail to do it 100% every week. We all know how to 
manage / run the club from the top down, we all know what a referee should do 
in any incident and how the FA should act in any given case.
Yes, it is funny to see someone in a XXXL replica shirt call the likes of 
Viduka fat or Beckford lazy, but surely that is what being a fan is all about ? 
I am a fan because I am rubbish at football and always have been ! If I was any 
good I would be playing, if I understood tactics etc I would run a team at some 
level, but I don't. I go to the pub have a few beers with my mates, all as bad 
as me, and we critise the owner, the manager and all the players all with an 
air of "I could do it better"
Take that away and what would we talk about ? What would we argue about ?

I get we all have different views of being a 'fan' and what that entails - some 
take it to more extreme levels than others in many ways. For what its worth I 
found Rob H's original story amusing and a good piece of football 'banter' (I 
hate that word but cannot think of one that sums it up better)
Dave


 . You mentioned wannabees, you got that spot on. Some of these guys talk 
as if they are professional football people and spout off as if they really 
know about football, footballers and running a football club….. Some are 
criticising a guy who has just joined the club and they are saying he is doing 
wrong already. Criticising young players whom the club are giving contracts to

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Re: [LU] At Hk 7s (football obvs not rugger)

[Jeremy Adams]

Are we back on to curry houses yet?

Do any of you lot still play for the lards? Does WorldNet still exist?



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Graham Thirkill 

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:10:15 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Peter Castlehouse; Graham White
Subject: [LU] At Hk 7s (football obvs not rugger)

Blimey, all we need now is Pope Paul MadGowan and Mark Humphries to reappear 
and we can have a proper flame war - like wot we did in the good old days!  :-)
Graham White

You forgot the Voice Of Football
Peter Castlehouse

(;-))
Thirkers
/098\
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[Jeremy Adams]

I'd go for Pearson personally. Not exactly inspiring either but it certainly 
wouldn't be dull. Karanka seems like the obvious choice now that we've got that 
new technical director bloke lined up who's Karanka's mate. Of course I'd be 
happy to get promotion and I don't get to see many games so me moaning about 
dull tactics is a bit silly but he just doesn't instill much excitement in me. 
Some Leeds fan on facebook says his cousin's dog once pissed on Guzman's roses 
and Guzman said that Karanka didn't have a mangerial clue.


From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:10:31 PM
To: Jeremy Adams
Cc: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'
Subject: RE: [LU] Monk resigned

OK If not him then who?
He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are there?

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 25 May 2017 16:22
To: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>; N If <mister@gmail.com>; Leeds List 
<leedslist@gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned

Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.



Jeremy


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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[Jeremy Adams]

Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.



Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:43:32 AM
To: N If; Leeds List; {broken-address} Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned

   Is there no end to this madness?

   Only at Elland Road...

   Sent from the North
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Re: [LU] : Manchester

[Jeremy Adams]

Yeah Rob, please don't start another on list fight with the Dr. If you want to 
bash each other over the head, please do it off list!


Ta


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Michael Benjamin 

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:44:46 AM
To: Rob Heath
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester

Don’t even start.
Stay off line.
Have you no self-control?



Dr  Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist.

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PHONE: +972-505-317772
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||Quora ||Jerusalem 
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From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:36 PM
To: Michael Benjamin 
Cc: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester

We do not want to be lectured about "terrorism" and "security" from an Israeli, 
thank you very much.

It is so easy to light some candles, give some blood and mutter about evil 
deranged muslims.doesn't anybody ever ask themselves what islamic 
terrorism is REALLY about?

It all stems from something that was written in a letter on 2 November 1917 
(no, I'm not that fanaticalI just looked it up!) The Balfour 
Declarationthat, compounded by the unspeakable evil of the 
nazis, has led us to where we are today.

And btw..what an outrageous piece of cynicism for May to now 
declare a nationwide state of emergency. Blatantly using those dead kids to 
further her message about the need for "Strong & Stable" leadership.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Michael Benjamin 
> wrote:
It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and guards. It 
means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on my El Al flights 
I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make things worse. Sure, it's 
a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll kill a lot more than e 
terrorist.
How does it stop? By having guards who intercept the terrorist. A lot die for 
their efforts. But the 'kill rate' falls dramatically. So low it is no longer 
is effective.
Civil liberties are curtailed. You have no alternative. Profiling is unpleasant.
Right now the UK is in a worse position than we were.  We can identify the 
problem areas and if need be close them down. It's cruel It is collective 
punishment. It works. The same goes for profiling.
Sorry, it is not business as usual. If it is, expect a lot more deaths.
Michael

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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist 
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of
|nat...@sky.com
|Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:10 PM
|To: Leeds List >
|Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
|
|I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get upset -
|anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went to the
|Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they never 
usually
|do any sort bag checking but last night they did have 2 old dears (it is mainly
|staffed by volunteers) looking in handbags. It was a sell out crowd and every 
seat
|was full so no-one appeared to be 'scared off' - it was odd on the way out
|afterwards to see 2 police cars - one from Wales with Heddu written on it - 
with
|3 coppers stood with them, 2 with machine guns and one with a hand gun - they
|were getting pizza from a local pizzeria. I hate to see armed police and hope 
this
|does not become the normI know friends who are going, as normal, to the town
|centre tonight to watch their game and I am off into Piccadilly on Saturday 
for a
|few beers.
|I do know a lad with 2 young daughters who had tickets for the MEN but could
|not go and gave the tickets away, thankfully to people who stayed safe (that
|would not be a good thing to have on your conscience if they had died) and he 
is
|worried about taking them into town over the weekend for the marathon or
|whatever it is. He does not want the terrorists to 'win' but fears for their 
safety
|and thinks that they will be too worried to enjoy themselves - difficult 
decisions
|The saving grace of it all is the fact that it is one (or maybe a few) nutters 
who
|did this atrocious act but the number of people who did great things during and
|afterwards is in the hundreds if not more - rescuing people, giving free taxis,
|giving so much blood they have stopped taking it , people taking food to the
|hospitals, and the 

Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

[Jeremy Adams]

Because I think Karanka plays unattractive football and also because I believe 
Monk has started something here and if we give him another season he could 
create something. Getting Karanka means we start all over again and have 
another "transitional" season.



From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:41:04 AM
To: Jeremy Adams; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

Why? He actually did get promotion with Boro right?

I too would like Monk to sign up but his demands need to be in reason too. 
Having a Plan B is sensible and I do not think Karanka is a bad option.

Nick


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From: Jeremy Adams <jeremyadam...@hotmail.com>
To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:36 AM
Subject: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

I realize there are more important things in the world right now than the next 
Leeds manager but according to teamtalk Karanka is the plan B option if we cant 
agree terms with Garry Monk.


Please let this not be the case!


Jeremy

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[LU] Plan b? Please no!

[Jeremy Adams]

I realize there are more important things in the world right now than the next 
Leeds manager but according to teamtalk Karanka is the plan B option if we cant 
agree terms with Garry Monk.


Please let this not be the case!


Jeremy

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[LU] Leeds kit at JD sports?

[Jeremy Adams]

Do JD Sports no longer carry Leeds stuff in their stores? Not on their website, 
I thought they used to carry Leeds kits. I'm in London and was going to get a 
top from the store there but I'm no concerned I wont get one. I'm off to 
Wembley for a tour today and if I cant get  leeds kit from JD I'll get some 
England tat instead.


Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Uddersfield

[Jeremy Adams]

DaRev wrote
I'll be very happy indeed if we go up in an automatic promotion place, but 
experience tells you a nervy play-off awaits :-(

I think experience tells me we'll fuck it all up and end up mid table and a new 
manager come the beginning of next season!

Jeremy
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