Re: [LU] Incoming confirmed

[Simon Hart via Leedslist]

On Harrison I thought his end of season form was a big improvement on his early 
season form. On that basis I’m happy to see him back for another year. If he 
picks up where he left off, continues to progress and improves his finishing 
he’ll be a big player for us.



> On 1 Jul 2019, at 21:31, Jeremy Adams  wrote:
> 
> I'm happy that Clarke is being loaned back, and that Harrison is coming back 
> (I actually like what I've seen of him) but all this being hailed as two new 
> signings is a bit much! Basically this is us just keeping two of the squad 
> from last year here. Ben White is a nice addition as will Costa if he comes.
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
> Leedslist 
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 11:03 AM
> To: nat...@sky.com
> Cc: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] Incoming confirmed
> 
> I know there’s been plenty of hoo hah about getting Clarke back on loan, but 
> I hope we haven’t agreed to any clauses that he must start x games if he does 
> come back?  I say that because whilst he’s been really effective off the 
> bench he’s also looked lost at times. Harrison will probably start more like 
> last season, and hopefully he’ll be more consistently effective!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 11:06, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> No surprise - Harrison is back for the season and Ben White has also joined 
>> us on a season long loanKnow nowt about White but should be decent back up 
>> for Cooper and Pontus (assuming he stays)
>> Harrison will need to up his game a bit to bring fans onside - hard to know 
>> how much his lack of effectiveness in creating goals is down to him as 
>> opposed to  the poor finishing which meant we needed more chances to score 
>> than any of our rivals. He did show glimpses at times to suggest he can be 
>> decent (move for goal at Derby away in play offs his best moment)Not sure 
>> how much game time he will get if Costa and Clarke both come on loan too
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Kids

[Simon Hart]

I joined the list in the early days after finding out about it on
rec.sport.soccer, I think. I have an 18 year old daughter who starts Uni in
a few weeks. She's been to games with me a few times and was a keen
footballer before a problem with her foot put a stop to that.

I coached her team for 5 season which was great fun. She played for her
school and got to the National Schools final at the Madejski where they
were runners up. I would have given my right arm to do that as a kid.

Si.
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Re: [LU] u23s

[Simon Hart]

Dalby does look very Wood like holding off the defender to score this one:
https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/975831107169128454

He can finish with his left aswell. Not sure Wood could do this.
https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/975821657158930433


On 19 March 2018 at 21:04, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Just watched most of the u23s game away at Ipswich and was impressed for
> the most part as we won 3 2 in a good performanceSam Dalby got the first
> two and Machuka the other and certainly at times we looked goodThe first
> goal was set up by a good run by jack Clarke and then the ball moved on by
> Denton to Dalby who finished well 0 1Then a replica of the Sheff Wed winner
> put us two up as a long ball over the top was well controlled by Dalby who
> stood up strong v the defender and finished well
> Then this being Leeds we showed our usual frailty as a near post corner
> was headed in (think PML when he ran to the near post - cant recall the
> oppo)We did then go right up to the other end and got the 2 goal lead
> restored as another long ball down the wing led to Machuka taking it in his
> stride, running with it and slotting home from the corner of the box
> We looked comfortable but let them back in when O'Connor was skinned and
> another defender slipped over in the box leaving their lad with an easy goal
> We did continue to press and saw the game out
> Dalby looked decent and a big unit - some on twitter calling him Chris
> Wood MkIIJack Clarke and Del Roi (sp?) looked good tooOverall we looked a
> decent side especially going forward
> Not sure if this means any of them are ready for the first team BUT what
> have we got to lose ? Let Heck throw the best of them into the fray for the
> next few games and let them sink or swim ?  As I said after saturday we
> need to let Pearce keep his place irrespective of how he played v Sheff Wed
> Fair play to Cordoba (?) and the u23 staff and players, we have certainly
> made progress as the season has gone on and showed a lot of improvement
> both as a team (and results) and individually as players have got used to
> the game in this country
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Re: [LU] Pontus

[Simon Hart]

Looks like he might be fit enough to play,
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/jansson-set-to-hand-leeds-united-major-boost-by-returning-for-blades-clash-1-9005604

On 7 February 2018 at 11:43, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> I was watching the LUTV interview with Heck yesterday and they showed
> clips of players training - Pontus was there- albeit that he seemed from
> the brief glimpse that he had trainers not boots on-
>
> Does this mean he is not out for weeks as feared but may even be fit for
> Saturday ?
> It would make a massive difference - Pontus and Pennington gives us a
> chance Pennington as the only centre half less so ?
> Dave
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Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

[Simon Hart]

It can't be an open vote. Man City did that and now have a stand called the
Colin Bell stand or the Bell End. I remember voting for it. :-)



On 25 January 2018 at 11:20, Richard Naef 
wrote:

> It's simple, come up with 10 or more different designs (including this
> one, and the last 3 or 4).
>
> Set up an online voting system using proportionate single transferal vote
> system, that only Members and ST holders can access (and vote once) and hey
> fucking presto!
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ted
> Sent: 25 January 2018 11:15
> To: m...@myray.com
> Cc: leedslist ; {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; johnbar...@ivycottage.co.uk;
> {broken-address} 
> Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge
>
> They're reconsidering...
>
> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/club-news/22927/club-
> statement-crest-consultation
>
>
>
> On 25 Jan 2018 09:55, "Michael Benjamin"  wrote:
>
> > Why change at all?
> >
> > Get Outlook for Android 
> >
> > --
> > *From:* Ted 
> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:52:29 AM
> > *To:* Michael Benjamin
> > *Cc:* {broken-address}; {broken-address} Richard Walker; leedslist;
> > johnbar...@ivycottage.co.uk
> > *Subject:* Re: [LU] another new crest / badge
> >
> >
> > I do feel a bit sorry for Radrizzini (sp!) as I believe his heart was
> > in the right place and he was genuinley trying to do something for the
> > fans, just a shame it all went a bit pear-shaped!
> >
> > God knows who the 10,000 were though!
> >
> > And don't forget, the current badge didn't go down well when it was
> > introduced.
> >
> > Be interesting to see the consultation process for the next one, if
> > there is one at all.
> >
> > Ted.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

[Simon Hart]

That didn't take long. Quite a few signatures already.

https://www.change.org/p/andrea-radrizzani-stop-lufc-from-implementing-the-leeds-salute-crest?recruiter=165190709&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial.undefined.nafta_petition_show_share_buttons.control.nafta_psf_sequential_1.control&utm_term=autopublish&utm_content=nafta_fb_canonical_share_3%3Acontrol

On 24 January 2018 at 13:15, Nigel Sykes  wrote:

> Much talk online (obviously).  I'd say about 99% negative (at least!).
> Personally, I think it looks like the badge of some knock-off, kids'
> pyjamas!
>
> Yet to see one person who claims knowledge of being "consulted", so not
> sure where this 10,000 number comes from.
>
> Anyone wondering about the design process and probable target market
> should do a Google image search on "Pro Evolution Soccer 2".  Just sayin'...
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> Richard Naef
> Sent: 24 January 2018 13:10
> To: errand.fivefold; Ted; Graham Farr
> Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
> Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge
>
> Looks OK to me and they have gone through a consultation process.  Lets
> face it whatever they had done the list would have moaned, old white
> geezers don't like change do they?
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> errand.fivefold
> Sent: 24 January 2018 12:43
> To: Ted ; Graham Farr 
> Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge
>
> That New badge is for want of a better expression..fu@king pathetic.
> IMHO
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Ted  Date:
> 24/01/2018  12:35  (GMT+00:00) To: Graham Farr  Cc:
> "Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"  Subject: Re:
> [LU] another new crest / badge "Another"?  We've had the last one for 20
> years!!!
>
> I'm undecided on it. It might grow on me.
>
> Funny - they say they've consulted with over 10,000 fans.  Yesterday was
> the first I'd heard about it!  Did anyone else knew it was imminent?
>
> Ted H
>
>
> On 24 January 2018 at 12:09, Graham Farr  wrote:
>
> > Hate it
> >
> > Bring back 70's smiley
> >
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Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

[Simon Hart]

It's fucking rubbish!

On 24 January 2018 at 12:09, Graham Farr  wrote:

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Re: [LU] Happy 25th anniversary to the Leeds United Electronic Mailing List

[Simon Hart]

I'm sure I joined in 92. Still got the t-shirt and my email address printed
on it still works, though I am now subbed with a different address.


On 13 July 2017 at 12:44, Paul Tweney  wrote:

> Wow! Can't remember exactly when I joined but it was early on. It was just
> after the list t-shirt was produced.
> Anyone still got their list t-shirt?
> All hail vax.ox.ac.uk!
> Maverick
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[Simon Hart]

Feels like another Hock.

On 15 June 2017 at 12:05, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new manager
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Re: [LU] 7 matches left

[Simon Hart]

There was a lot about Leeds that concerned me as a play off club!

Reading are not a good team but they comfortably beat us. Whatever is going
on with Janson needs sorting. We are loosing confidence with Cooper in the
team, he's a liability.


On 3 April 2017 at 16:03, David W  wrote:

> There was nothing about Reading that concerned me as a play off opponent.
> Dull bland little club, who will be excited to just make the play-offs as
> an achievements in itself. They don't strike me as having the hunger and
> drive for it. I think a rabid full house at Elland Road would dispatch
> them.
>
> In a final frankly anything could happen, but we feel like a team with more
> big match personalities / performances in it than in previous years.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Rob Heath  wrote:
>
> > If we make the playoffs, I am cautiously optimistic.
> >
> > I have read comments on various fora about how, historically, once we get
> > into a "last 4" situation, we never end up winners. However, there are a
> > number of ways to look at that, not just the "we never do well" approach.
> >
> > 1) The "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern" scenario: if a tossed coin has come
> > down tails 99  times out of 99, the odds of it coming down tails the
> 100th
> > time are still even.
> >
> > Or are they?
> >
> > 2) If the odds are that 100 tosses will yield 50 tails and 50 heads, then
> > if there has been no heads in 99 attempts, then the chances of the 100th
> > being heads are greater.
> >
> > Or..if you accept that any football club will triumph
> > occasionally in "last 4" situations, with a probability of perhaps 3 out
> of
> > 10, then the fact that Leeds have failed in their last 7 (I believe
> that's
> > the count) attempts just makes it more likely that we'll succeed this
> time.
> >
> > Specifically, I reckon we could get past Reading in a two-legger. I
> didn't
> > think we played that badly on saturday. Their goal was a brilliant shot
> > from Cormorant or whatever he's called...it was way above 2nd Div
> > quality. I know they had a few other chances, but somehow I never felt
> > worried by them. If it hadn't been for that one great shot, I think we'd
> > have got a nice 0-0 out of it. Even with that shot, we still beat them
> 2-1
> > on aggregate. I doubt very much if Termite-ant, or whatever he is called,
> > can produce another shot like that. Then a final v Udders or Fulham? I
> > would have been very pessimistic about beating the dog botherers a few
> > weeks ago, but if they continue their recent wobble, they are going to be
> > getatable. Ditto Fulham, or even Wendiesthey've looked more
> > vulnerable in recent weeks.
> >
> > Of course, that is all IF we can get into the bloody playoffs!
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:51 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
> >
> > > So 7 games left and a 6 pt gap over 7th place - mathematically 15
> points
> > > get us promoted (subject to us keeping our superior goal difference) -
> > Even
> > > better Fulham have to play both Sheff Wed and Huddersfield so Wednesday
> > and
> > > Fulham cannot both get 21 points
> > > We have 3 winnable home games - Preston, Wolves and Norwich - all teams
> > > with no real chance of play offs or relegation- so IF we can keep our
> > nerve
> > > in front of what should be sell out home games that gives us 9 of the
> 15
> > > needed.
> > > So at a maximum we need to win two from Brentford, Newcastle, Burton
> and
> > > Wigan - not likely to win at Newcastle but the others are winnable -
> > > Brentford have nothing tangible to play for but no team is likely to
> just
> > > roll over, especially at home and especially in front of a full house.
> > This
> > > makes tomorrow a massive game - 3 points and things will look very
> good.
> > > Burton and Wigan are both near the bottom for a reason , and Wigan will
> > > most likely be down by the time we play them ((and take over their
> > ground)
> > > but how often does a relegated team suddenly start winning ? Burton
> will
> > > most likely fighting for their lives when we play them.
> > > Realistically I think we can win the 3 home games, lose at Newcastle
> and
> > > pick up between 2 (2 draws and a defeat) or 5 points in the other 3
> games
> > > (win one and draw 2) - so we gain 11-14 points- this means Wednesday
> need
> > > to get at least 18 points from their last 7 games to overtake us and
> > knock
> > > us out of play offs - I cannot see this happening
> > > All makes tomorrow night very important - us away at Brentford, Fulham
> > > away to Derby , and Sheff Wed away to relegated Rotherham - lets hope
> > > Rotherham do have that 'bounce' that relegated teams have - a win for
> us
> > > and a draw for Sheff would be a massive morale boost and put us 8
> points
> > > above them with 6 games to go - fingers crossed ( a defeat for us and
> win
> > > for them and the gap is suddenly only 3 points with 6 to go)
> > > I love the fact that we have something to p

Re: [LU] Brummies 0 Leeds 1

[Simon Hart]

If we could pass to our own players we'd be dangerous.


On 3 March 2017 at 20:04, John Boocock  wrote:

> Woodie 14
>
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Re: [LU] Am I wrong to hope the daily star is correct?

[Simon Hart]

The Daily Star has a catastrophic weather warning every day. They are never
correct.


On 11 January 2017 at 11:07, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Was in Tesco earlier and saw the frontpage headline in the Daily
> Star"white out - snow to put football matches at risk this weekend" -
> underneath was a picture of a snowman in a Leeds scarf
> Brilliant I thought, the game will be off, result
> I am unable to go, thanks to sky and their Friday night football nonsense,
> got a  'family do' that I can't get out of !
> Was gutted when I saw the weather forecast for Leeds is actually all day
> sunshine on Friday !
> Is it wrong and selfish to want the game postponed just because I cannot
> go (but would most likely be OK for re-arranged game ) ?
>
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Re: [LU] 1st half............abysmal

[Simon Hart]

>From what I have seen of us this season we do seem to be slow starters.
We're generally poor in the 1st half but come good in the 2nd.

At the risk of putting the kibosh on everything, today was the day I
started to believe this team might have a chance this season. Forget about
the quality, there's very little of that in this league. We ground out a
result against an on form team that will be in the mix at the end of the
season. That is what it's all about in the championship.



On 3 December 2016 at 23:37, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> But the first half was atrocious...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 5:47 PM, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > You miserable set of ..We won against a team that was full of
> Premeirship players and cemented our place in the top 6Not the greatest
> game or performance but 3 very valuable hard earned and deserved pointsWe
> needed to bounce back after the Newcastle game and show that we can do it
> at home in front of a big crowdYes the first half was an awful game of
> football with no shots or chances to either team but we did what we had to
> do and the fans all went home happy and with a belief that this team is
> going places.
> > In Janson and Ayling we have players who look like they WANT to be at
> Leeds - something we have not seen since the likes of Hughes and Prutton
> played above themselves by being LEEDS
> > Roofe got the goal his performances richly deserved and which he needed
> - let's hope it is the first of many for us, the rest of them did what they
> had to do in a hard fought contest.The crowd got behind them and urged them
> on - for the first time since Grayson we all seemed to be together - I
> compared it to Newcastle and Wolves in the 89 promotions season - poor
> close games that one good move and goal settled in our favour (albeit we
> got a second right at the end)
> > Player for player this is far from the best Leeds United team but they
> are a TEAM and with this mentatlity we can go on and do things.
> > Not really enough action to do a real report and i expect most of you
> watched it on TV but it does feel like the start of better things and
> whilst this is an easy to forget game we came away with the points in an
> game of attrition where defences were on topenjoy it and do not dwell on
> the details
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >  From: Rob Heath 
> > To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> > Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2016, 18:22
> > Subject: [LU] 1st halfabysmal
> >
> > Jeez that was atrocious!
> >
> > Slight contrast to the Man City/Chelsea game earlier.
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Re: [LU] "expensive stunt"?

[Simon Hart]

How much does it cost for a 30 second advert on Sky?


On 15 February 2016 at 11:48, Andy Clayton  wrote:

> That's an awful lot of tennis balls.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 15 Feb 2016, at 11:34, Ted  wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 February 2016 Nick wrote:
> >>
> >>   anyone any idea what this is all about?
> >>
> >>   [1]
> http://www.thescratchingshed.com/2016/02/expensive-stunt-planned-for
> >>   -middlesbrough-game/
> >
> >
> >
> > A few on Waccoe have organised it.  They asked "us" to chip-in and trust
> > them to deliver without disclosing any details so as not to forewarn the
> > club etc.
> >
> > No details are known except that it will be visible, will not affect the
> > players, it is not illegal, it will not cause any danger.  Apparently
> they
> > have been in touch with Sky.
> >
> > The "appeal" started in Fri evening and by saturday morning they'd raised
> > 3.5-4K.  Not bad!
> >
> >
> > I was going to give the game a miss after our last few home games but now
> > because of this (& contributing) I'm going to go!
> >
> > We've got to try something to let him know how we feel.
> >
> > MOT
> >
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Re: [LU] Footie Quiz Question

[Simon Hart]

Strachan?

On 13 October 2015 at 09:24, David Brennan  wrote:

> I've been asked this quiz question, and have no idea, mostly cause I don't
> follow the Premier League at all these days.  Any idea?
>
> Who are the only two footballers who have made 250 English league
> appearances for 2 different clubs, having had only one spell at each club
> and never played for another club? One is still playing, so could well join
> another club one day, leaving the other bloke with a unique record. To help
> you, I will add that both have played for a Premiership club.
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Re: [LU] Gus

[Simon Hart]

Like many I believe it was Gus who was the driving force behind the success
we had with Wise. The downturn was marked when he left. He did a good job
at Brighton and I would have liked him at Leeds then but his troubles at
Sunderland do make me think again. Maybe he has learnt some valuable
lessons and could be worth another go. I don't know, if it were my decision
I would probably pass this time.


On 15 May 2015 at 14:27, Jeremy Adams  wrote:

> New Manager? Would he be good
> Jeremy
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Re: [LU] A piece in defense of Redfearn

[Simon Hart]

See Simon Austin's blog here:
http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/cellino-on-sicknote-six.html?m=1

--
Cellino said: “My dream was always to think of Neil Redfearn.

“People forget, when I first came in, after just 24 hours, I put him on the
bench. I liked him and believed in him straight away.

“Then I put him in charge of the team. I loved him and we talked every day.

“And he helped me a lot, of course. And I appreciate that. And I thank god
that we stayed in the Championship.

“But when I come back, I have to make a choice. I have to decide what is
best for the club.”
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From that it seems to me he wants a new coach in. Wouldn't be at all
surprised if he was trying to force Redfearn to quit to save the pay off.
Or maybe he realises Redfearns stock is pretty high with most fans and he
is trying to change that.



On 21 April 2015 at 13:13, [broken-address] Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Totally agree Richard all seems a bit convenient to me and smacks of
> conspiracy theories.
>
> On one side people say he is thick on the other a Machiavellian master.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 21, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Richard Walker 
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't see what Cellino would get out of arranging the 'injuries' of
> the 6 players ? Why would he want to undermine Redfearn ? He appointed him
> !!
> >
> > Cellino has since said he had nothing to do with it and plans to return
> for the Rotherham game and doesn't care whether people boo him.
> >
> > I can understand people having a go fat  Cellino for bringing in this
> bunch of wasters but suggesting he is trying to undermine Redfearn and
> destabilise the club from a distance just doesn't add up ?
> >
> > Can someone explain to me ?
> >
> >> On 21 Apr 2015, at 10:28, David Brennan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Neil that is, not Anthea.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leeds-united/11551152/Alarm-bells-ring-at-Leeds-United-as-cowardice-and-anarchy-undermines-Neil-Redfearn-and-his-talented-graduates.html
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Re: [LU] Becchio

[Simon Hart]

This club never fails to disappoint. If he thinks Bechio is the answer we
are screwed.



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> We are IMO terminally fucked.
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> > Apparently number one target for Redfearn.
> >
> > I give up.
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Re: [LU] 1-0 own goal mowat

[Simon Hart]

We are so far out of our depth we look like a Northern Counties side. I
know there is a long way to go in the season but it is very difficult to
see how such a poor team can be turned around.

The club is a basket case.

On 30 December 2014 at 21:07, [broken-address] Nicholas Armit <
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> And why no subs?
>
> Redfearn Out!
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Re: [LU] Daily Mail

[Simon Hart]

You have to ask yourself who is being so vigorous in trying to apply the FPP 
test and then ask yourself who is pulling his strings?

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Oct 2014, at 04:05, Ian Murray  wrote:

> Good point made on the latest squareball podcast, the F&PP test is designed 
> to protect clubs from dubious asset strippers. The first time in 20 years our 
> owner isn't such a chap, they deploy it against him.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2014, at 06:01, John Boocock  wrote:
>> 
>> It's the Daily Mail. Tossers.
>> 
>> sent in great haste from a mobile phone
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Re: [LU] Elland Road

[Simon Hart]

It's his golden goose. No surprise we never re-purchased the ground whilst
he was in charge.


On 5 August 2014 14:24, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> "The deeds to Elland Road are owned by Teak Commercial Limited, a firm
> based in the British Virgin Islands"
>
> Hmmm I wonder which crooked old scrote is behind that company.
>
>
> Nigel.
>
>
>
> On 4 August 2014 10:29, Errand Fivefold 
> wrote:
>
> > From the Guardian(Don't shoot the messenger)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Massimo Cellino, the Leeds United owner, has said that an offer to
> > repurchase Elland Road has been made using money raised from the sale of
> > Ross McCormack and other funds.
> >
> > Leeds sold their stadium in 2004 for £8m during the club’s financial
> > crisis and the Italian entrepreneur vowed in February, before his
> takeover
> > had been confirmed, to buy it back immediately. The former Cagliari owner
> > has not yet fulfilled that promise and has since claimed that he wants to
> > secure a deal by November.
> >
> > The ground is owned by the businessman Jacob Adler but the club have the
> > option to buy back Elland Road for a set fee by 2029, when their 25-year
> > lease ends.
> >
> > McCormack was signed by Leeds’s fellow Championship club Fulham for £11m
> > in July, providing a large chunk of the £16m fee Cellino believes is
> > required to repurchase the stadium.
> >
> >
> > “The money from McCormack cannot be wasted,” Cellino said. “We sent a
> > letter yesterday. My accountant sent a letter because we want our stadium
> > back. I hope it will be done soon. Before November 100%, because in
> > November the rent will be raised.
> >
> > “We have to pay. I have to buy the stadium, then I have to fix a lot of
> > other things. It’s our house and our home, we don’t want to be guests in
> > our home. I knew that to buy the stadium back we needed £16m.
> >
> > “I want the stadium, we need to concentrate our energy on the club. It’s
> > not agreed, we have the option to buy it and, if we try after November,
> it
> > will cost more.”
> >
> > The deeds to Elland Road are owned by Teak Commercial Limited, a firm
> > based in the British Virgin Islands, and neither of the past two Leeds
> > owners – Gulf Finance House or Ken Bates – repurchased the ground. Leeds
> > are paying £1.4m in annual rent at the stadium but that sum rises by a
> > small percentage every year.
> >
> > Leeds kick off their Championship campaign against Millwall on Saturday,
> > their first season under new manager David Hockaday, whose appointment
> was
> > met with disillusionment by the majority of supporters in June.
> >
> > Benito Carbone has recently left his position of development coach at the
> > club because of “family reasons”.
> >
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Re: [LU] A new signing or or the Sun shining too bright

[Simon Hart]

It's bollocks, probably peddled by his agent. This from Phil Hay at the
Yep...

*Phil Hay* ‏@PhilHayYEP   18m


As for Nigel Reo-Coker, I'm told that he's not (and wont be) Leeds-bound. #
lufc 


On 30 July 2014 14:49, Jeremy Thorpe  wrote:

> Leeds United offer contract to Nigel Reo-Coker
>
> Taken from the Currant Bun and somewhat leftfield out of nowhere.
>
> That's all they say
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Re: [LU] Fixtures

[Simon Hart]

I use the Sky calendar builder. This one gets updated when games are moved
for TV.

http://www1.skysports.com/calendars


On 29 July 2014 08:31, Mark Pilling  wrote:

> Hi gang
>
> Sorry I presumably missed this Anyone got a link to a csv or ical for
> putting our fixtures in Google calendar or outlook?
>
> Way I look at it (and I know,  I don't get to go and watch) is I wish
> Hockaday well.   He will have to be really good to survive long.  His track
> record means no leeway for him,  The fans,  press and players will all turn
> on him the second things don't go well.  So,  hope it happens and he
> survives!
>
> Would be lovely to think that all these young Italians mean we will be
> playing cultured classy football and mesmerising the opposition with
> technically polished flair. I fear we're more likely to damage their games
> and knock that out of them by forcing thwm into an alien kick rush and
> hope.
>
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Re: [LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield

[Simon Hart]

Agree with what you say Phil. You have to wonder if The Hock has been
brought in to hold the fort whilst Carbone learns the ropes. His under 21
side are looking good by all accounts.

The season hasn't even started yet so it is a little unfair to be getting
on Hock's back at this stage. He might just surprise us. There is talk of
another 5 or 6 new players coming in so our best 11 could change
dramatically before the Millwall game.

Overall I'm not unhappy with the situation at the club. It needed a massive
shake up and that is what we got. Whether it all ends well we can only wait
and see. I'm optimistic for the first time in years.



On 24 July 2014 12:14, Phill Shields  wrote:

> CM is Massimo Cellino (MC) (whoops).
>
> If there was somebody better then Hockaday in the frame would you care to
> share their names? Of course Hockaday has other experience in the PL but it
> doesnt suit your purposes  to focus on that.
>
> FFS I have no reason to defend Hockaday, I am saying lets give it a go. We
> both know if we start poorly he will be gone and then we will see all these
> top coaches you are banging on about lining up to do the job. I personally
> suspect at some point that Carbone will end up with the job.
>
> I don't need reminding about the stature of this club. It breaks my heart
> what we have turned into but I think MC offers a new dawn. There have been
> so many false ones so lets give him a chance.
>
> I'll watch them whatever because that is what I do. If you are so
> pessimistic vote with your feet lad.
>
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Re: [LU] Watford in disguise?

[Simon Hart]

Watford's Italians were all loanees weren't they? Ours are permanent
signings.

It didn't seem to do Watford much harm. The Italians certainly added
something to their team.



On 9 July 2014 15:03, Jeremy Adams  wrote:

> Are we going to be the next Watford with loads of Italian based players
> now? Certainly seem to be heading that way.
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[LU] Emailing message from sportingintel (via HootSuite)

[Simon Hart]

Do they still cut the hands off thieves in that part of the world?



sportingintel: #lufc fans, a PDF of the detailed $5m theft allegations
against David Haigh available here, link at top of this:
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/05/31/stories-and-resources-to-download-and-read-offline-310501/

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Re: [LU] [NOLU] Moronhino

[Simon Hart]

I seem to remember reading Athletico have spent a fraction of what the
other 3 have spent so I want them to win it.

The champions league is getting like the premiership with the same old rich
clubs involved every year. It would be good to see a relative minnow upset
them all.


On 30 April 2014 15:11, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> I hope Chelsea win tonight.
> And get humiliated in the final.
>
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Re: [LU] Shez

[Simon Hart]

Definitely fake. Yet another twat on Twitter.


On 21 April 2014 22:40, Simon Hart  wrote:

> No mention anywhere else so I think it must be.
>
>
> On 21 April 2014 22:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
>
>> Fake account.
>>
>> --
>>
>> > On 21 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Simon Hart  wrote:
>> >
>> > Have a look at the Twitter timeline of Plymoth's owner
>> > https://twitter.com/AkkeronJ
>> >
>> > Disappointed to announce that john Sheridan has resigned #pafc
>> >
>> > John Sheridan's resignation was reluctantly accepted. He has shown a
>> desire
>> > to work closer to his family home
>> >
>> > It appears that john Sheridan has resigned as he is to be appointed at
>> > Leeds united before the end of the week. #pafc #lufc
>> >
>> > Disappointing in events unfolding. Seems Leeds united have turned johns
>> > head. #pafc #lufc
>> >
>> > Sheridan resigning then joining Leeds is a complete breech of rules.
>> #pafc
>> > will be reporting #lufc to the fa and compensation sought after
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Re: [LU] Shez

[Simon Hart]

No mention anywhere else so I think it must be.


On 21 April 2014 22:36, Jim Moran  wrote:

> Fake account.
>
> --
>
> > On 21 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Simon Hart  wrote:
> >
> > Have a look at the Twitter timeline of Plymoth's owner
> > https://twitter.com/AkkeronJ
> >
> > Disappointed to announce that john Sheridan has resigned #pafc
> >
> > John Sheridan's resignation was reluctantly accepted. He has shown a
> desire
> > to work closer to his family home
> >
> > It appears that john Sheridan has resigned as he is to be appointed at
> > Leeds united before the end of the week. #pafc #lufc
> >
> > Disappointing in events unfolding. Seems Leeds united have turned johns
> > head. #pafc #lufc
> >
> > Sheridan resigning then joining Leeds is a complete breech of rules.
> #pafc
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[LU] Shez

[Simon Hart]

Have a look at the Twitter timeline of Plymoth's owner
https://twitter.com/AkkeronJ

Disappointed to announce that john Sheridan has resigned #pafc

John Sheridan's resignation was reluctantly accepted. He has shown a desire
to work closer to his family home

It appears that john Sheridan has resigned as he is to be appointed at
Leeds united before the end of the week. #pafc #lufc

Disappointing in events unfolding. Seems Leeds united have turned johns
head. #pafc #lufc

Sheridan resigning then joining Leeds is a complete breech of rules. #pafc
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[LU] Wow!

[Simon Hart]

"I have arranged for Sport Capital to convert some of the loans made to the
club into shares and once complete, those shares will be given to the fans,
so it truly will be the fans' club.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-utd/haigh-quits-leeds-united-1-6556967
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Re: [LU] Accounts 2!!

[Simon Hart]

I seem to remember something about large management fees charged to the
club by GFH, presumably on top of the directors massive salaries. Or did I
imagine that?

And we used to accuse Bates of milking the club.


On 8 April 2014 14:07, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> Plus a salary of almost £300K! For a club doing awfully both on and off the
> pitch. Any more doubts about the motivations of GFH?
>
>
> Nigel.
>
>
>
> On 8 April 2014 13:30, Paul Cundell  wrote:
>
> > You must be mistaken Ted.
> > They must be good, else why would one director have gotten a 440k bonus?
> > Cheers
> > Paul
> > On 8 Apr 2014 11:10, "Ted"  wrote:
> > >
> > > See the accounts  are out - not good reading!!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/216979836/Leeds-City-Holdings-Ltd-Accounts-FY2013
> > >
> > > A loss of about £9m!
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Re: [LU] Emailing message from PhilHayYEP (via HootSuite)

[Simon Hart]

Bollocks! should have read that more carefully. That was a retweet from
January 31st.

There are some twats on twitter.


On 5 April 2014 15:00, Simon Hart  wrote:

> And now McDermott sacked!
>
>
> PhilHayYEP: CONFIRMED: Brian McDermott sacked by #lufc
>
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[LU] Emailing message from PhilHayYEP (via HootSuite)

[Simon Hart]

And now McDermott sacked!


PhilHayYEP: CONFIRMED: Brian McDermott sacked by #lufc

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Re: [LU] Peltier gone to forest on loan!

[Simon Hart]

It's not all bad news then.


On 24 March 2014 14:54, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> Wage bill being cut it seems!
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] cellino barred!

[Simon Hart]

The shit is about to hit the fan. Or fans.


On 24 March 2014 11:24, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> Ok. Crisis time again!
>
>
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[LU] Extra maths lessons at Elland Road

[Simon Hart]

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/rmge53b7ogtrz7u12j6ozzqu

Lets hope Saleem, Salah and David are concentrating on their sums on the
front row and not pissing about on the back row.

Now everybody, if a football club costs 10M to buy and 2M a month to run,
how much will you need over the next two years? Saleem?...
Salah?... David?...

Oh FFS! wouldn't it be easier to just put Johnny Ball in charge?
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[LU] Jasper

[Simon Hart]

Did somebody mention Jasper?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/pendle/kelbrook/2099623.Former_footballer_urinated_in_street/
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Re: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The Wrong Way?

[Simon Hart]

He's out of a job so I don't see why not.


On 12 February 2014 13:17, Ian Murray  wrote:

> McKay wouldn't come to us, surely?
>
> Plus he is not Italian.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 12 Feb 2014, at 19:41, "Simon Hart"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it's very simple. He's had plenty of time to make a difference to
> the
> > team. He hasn't.
> >
> > I would take Malky Mackay. Has Cellino even heard of him though?
> >
> >
> > On 12 February 2014 11:34, Richard Naef  >wrote:
> >
> >> Simplistic to say the least, plenty of good managers have taken a lot
> >> longer
> >> than 2/3 of a season to change things especially in a disfunctional club
> >> like ours.  Poyet inherieted a large squad and was able to bring in new
> >> players at will and his team are still in the Bottom threeand no better
> off
> >> than when they had Martin O'Neill .   The writers piece de resistance at
> >> the
> >> end suggesting that Warnock did a good job, shows how muddled his
> thinking
> >> is.
> >>
> >> There are certainly better managers out there, but can you think of any
> >> that
> >> are available and would take a step down?
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:
> leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> >>> On Behalf Of Simon Hart
> >>> Sent: 12 February 2014 11:09
> >>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> >>> Subject: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The
> >>> Wrong Way?
> >>>
> >>> Couldn't agree more with this.
> >>>
> >>> http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/sacking-mcdermott-did-cellino-do-
> >>> the-right-thing-in-the-wrong-way/
> >>>
> >>> A good manager / coach will take a group of players and improve them.
> >> Look
> >>> at Poyet at Sunderland and even McLaren at Derby. Both made a big
> >>> difference in a short space of time with the same squad. Leeds have
> gone
> >>> backwards under McDermot.
> >>>
> >>> There are an awful lot of Leeds fans out there who are utterly
> delusional
> >>> over McDermot. They're still singing his name like he's some kind of
> >> messiah.
> >>> He's not a messiah, he's a very nice man. 2 or 3 half decent
> performances
> >> in
> >>> 2/3 of a season is not good enough.
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Re: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The Wrong Way?

[Simon Hart]

Yes, it's very simple. He's had plenty of time to make a difference to the
team. He hasn't.

I would take Malky Mackay. Has Cellino even heard of him though?


On 12 February 2014 11:34, Richard Naef wrote:

> Simplistic to say the least, plenty of good managers have taken a lot
> longer
> than 2/3 of a season to change things especially in a disfunctional club
> like ours.  Poyet inherieted a large squad and was able to bring in new
> players at will and his team are still in the Bottom threeand no better off
> than when they had Martin O'Neill .   The writers piece de resistance at
> the
> end suggesting that Warnock did a good job, shows how muddled his thinking
> is.
>
> There are certainly better managers out there, but can you think of any
> that
> are available and would take a step down?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> > On Behalf Of Simon Hart
> > Sent: 12 February 2014 11:09
> > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: [LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The
> > Wrong Way?
> >
> > Couldn't agree more with this.
> >
> > http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/sacking-mcdermott-did-cellino-do-
> > the-right-thing-in-the-wrong-way/
> >
> > A good manager / coach will take a group of players and improve them.
> Look
> > at Poyet at Sunderland and even McLaren at Derby. Both made a big
> > difference in a short space of time with the same squad. Leeds have gone
> > backwards under McDermot.
> >
> > There are an awful lot of Leeds fans out there who are utterly delusional
> > over McDermot. They're still singing his name like he's some kind of
> messiah.
> > He's not a messiah, he's a very nice man. 2 or 3 half decent performances
> in
> > 2/3 of a season is not good enough.
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[LU] Sacking McDermott: Did Cellino Do The Right Thing In The Wrong Way?

[Simon Hart]

Couldn't agree more with this.

http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/sacking-mcdermott-did-cellino-do-the-right-thing-in-the-wrong-way/

A good manager / coach will take a group of players and improve them. Look
at Poyet at Sunderland and even McLaren at Derby. Both made a big
difference in a short space of time with the same squad. Leeds have gone
backwards under McDermot.

There are an awful lot of Leeds fans out there who are utterly delusional
over McDermot. They're still singing his name like he's some kind of
messiah. He's not a messiah, he's a very nice man. 2 or 3 half decent
performances in 2/3 of a season is not good enough.
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[LU] A good read

[Simon Hart]

A day with 'Dirty Leeds'

"I was starting to realise that the reason so many people hate Leeds is
because they aren't Leeds."

http://supportersnotcustomers.com/2013/12/02/a-day-with-dirty-leeds/
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[LU] Emailing message from jon_abbott (via HootSuite)

[Simon Hart]

Ace tweet from Jon...


jon_abbott: I'm issuing a winding-up petition against GFH. It reads: "Will
you bunch of fucking morons stop winding me up?" #lufc

Original Message:
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Simon Hart]

There is one other offer on the table and we have no idea if they are
capable of funding the club properly. They could be just another bunch of
chancers hoping to make a buck.

I like the fact Chellino demands success. No doubt he has made mistakes
this week, coming in like a bull in a china shop, but for gods sake this
club was in desperate need of a rocket up it's arse.

I admit his record with managers and bringing in players over the managers
head is a worry but I think that was a reaction to the abject shite he has
watched us play over the last few weeks. Let's be honest, despite picking
up results before christmas we were playing poorly and pinching points.
That was never going to last all season. There have been a couple of bright
spots, yesterday's second half for one, but overall we're not good enough.
It would be great if yesterday was a corner turned but I doubt it.




On 2 February 2014 20:37,  wrote:

> How many trophies have Cagliari won under his ownership?
>
> We know a few things about him:
>
> - He's got two fraud convictions. (Most rich people do not actually have
> fraud convictions on their resume.)
> - He fires managers - sorry, "coaches" - on average almost twice a year.
> - He lives on a different continent.
> - His lawyer tried to fire Brian McDermott before Cellino had even taken
> possession of the football club.
> - He tried to force players on Brian McDermott.
>
> I really think we can do better than a convicted fraudster who doesn't
> believe in stability, doesn't respect the title "manager," and wants to
> pick the team himself.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Simon Hart 
> To: Michael Benjamin 
> Cc: LEEDSLIST 
> Sent: Sun, Feb 2, 2014 3:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?
>
>  After years of owners who's sole interest was what they could take out of
> the club it strikes me he is exactly what we need. I can't believe the over
> reaction of the fans. Would they rather the skint GFH stayed in charge?
> This from a journo...
>
> sport_simon: "@RosedaleManager: @sport_simon @MBarrett1919 Italian Rich
> list has his total wealth at EURO 1.3bil #cellino #lufc"
>
> Original Message:
>
> http://twitter.com/sport_simon/status/430061967488065538
>
>
>
> On 2 February 2014 19:44, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>
> > To a lesser degree we all think something like that. Its just easier to
> > simplify it all to black and white.
> > I'm confused.
> > I don't know what to believe, what to think and what is for the best.
> >  On 2 Feb 2014 21:18, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > > Reading his brief bio on the bbc I am not so sure that Cellino is not the
> > > right man for us - he has money (something GFH do not have) passion about
> > > football and experience
> > > Yes he is 'dodgy'  but so are most multi millionaires
> > > The way he treated Brian was bad but a defeat yesterday may have seen the
> > > end of Brian anyway.
> > >
> > > Maybe I am just clutching at straws over a take over that is possibly a
> > > fait accompli and one I have no control over but he may be the right man
> > > for the job ?
> > >
> > > Calgari fans seem to love him and all this 'he moved them 500miles' seems
> > > due to stadium problems rather than on a whim or as punishment (a la Tan
> > at
> > > Cardiff and the Hull bloke and their changes)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Of course I reserve the right to change this totally if he messes with my
> > > 20yr ST or takes us into administration etc
> > >
> > > Dave
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Simon Hart]

After years of owners who's sole interest was what they could take out of
the club it strikes me he is exactly what we need. I can't believe the over
reaction of the fans. Would they rather the skint GFH stayed in charge?
This from a journo...

sport_simon: "@RosedaleManager: @sport_simon @MBarrett1919 Italian Rich
list has his total wealth at EURO 1.3bil #cellino #lufc"

Original Message:
 http://twitter.com/sport_simon/status/430061967488065538



On 2 February 2014 19:44, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> To a lesser degree we all think something like that. Its just easier to
> simplify it all to black and white.
> I'm confused.
> I don't know what to believe, what to think and what is for the best.
>  On 2 Feb 2014 21:18, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> > Reading his brief bio on the bbc I am not so sure that Cellino is not the
> > right man for us - he has money (something GFH do not have) passion about
> > football and experience
> > Yes he is 'dodgy'  but so are most multi millionaires
> > The way he treated Brian was bad but a defeat yesterday may have seen the
> > end of Brian anyway.
> >
> > Maybe I am just clutching at straws over a take over that is possibly a
> > fait accompli and one I have no control over but he may be the right man
> > for the job ?
> >
> > Calgari fans seem to love him and all this 'he moved them 500miles' seems
> > due to stadium problems rather than on a whim or as punishment (a la Tan
> at
> > Cardiff and the Hull bloke and their changes)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course I reserve the right to change this totally if he messes with my
> > 20yr ST or takes us into administration etc
> >
> > Dave
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Re: [LU] Leeds fans

[Simon Hart]

Maybe, maybe not.

I can't believe all this has happened and the guy still hasn't passed the
fit and proper persons test. What happens if he doesn't? They must be
confident that is just a formality.


On 31 January 2014 23:50, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> Have you seen his track record! We will be lucky to not end up reforming
> in the unibond in 5 years.
>
> 36 managers in 22 years. Time ine prison, moving the club 600 miles from
> home!
>
> He is an utter crook! We are fucked
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 31 Jan 2014, at 23:25, Simon Hart  wrote:
> >
> > Astonishing reaction from Leeds fans tonight. We have been a joke of a
> club
> > without a pot to piss in for 10 years which has left us with the worst
> > Leeds team I have ever seen. A rich Italian with loads of cash comes in
> and
> > immediately starts throwing his weight around and fans are blocking him
> in
> > the ground and talking about demonstrations tomorrow.
> >
> > Get a fucking grip!
> >
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Re: [LU] Leeds fans

[Simon Hart]

Maybe, maybe not.


On 31 January 2014 23:50, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> Have you seen his track record! We will be lucky to not end up reforming
> in the unibond in 5 years.
>
> 36 managers in 22 years. Time ine prison, moving the club 600 miles from
> home!
>
> He is an utter crook! We are fucked
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 31 Jan 2014, at 23:25, Simon Hart  wrote:
> >
> > Astonishing reaction from Leeds fans tonight. We have been a joke of a
> club
> > without a pot to piss in for 10 years which has left us with the worst
> > Leeds team I have ever seen. A rich Italian with loads of cash comes in
> and
> > immediately starts throwing his weight around and fans are blocking him
> in
> > the ground and talking about demonstrations tomorrow.
> >
> > Get a fucking grip!
> >
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[LU] Leeds fans

[Simon Hart]

Astonishing reaction from Leeds fans tonight. We have been a joke of a club
without a pot to piss in for 10 years which has left us with the worst
Leeds team I have ever seen. A rich Italian with loads of cash comes in and
immediately starts throwing his weight around and fans are blocking him in
the ground and talking about demonstrations tomorrow.

Get a fucking grip!

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[LU] Emailing message from LUFC_WYP (via HootSuite)

[Simon Hart]

Great tweet by LUFC_WYP.

LUFC_WYP: Colleagues at Elland Road to make sure no one does anything
silly Enough of that has gone on already tonite! #lufc #deepbreaths

Original Message:
 http://twitter.com/LUFC_WYP/status/429387418316582912
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Re: [LU] Good news

[Simon Hart]

Oh no he isn't! Uncle Fester to take charge.

http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/213e7c14-a281-410c-9462-e0ba3a55432d/?source=fb&action=share&btn=big&form_factor=mobile


On 31 January 2014 21:38, Nicholas Armit  wrote:

> Neil Redfearn will be in charge tomorrow
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Re: [LU] Cagliari loan duo to Leeds

[Simon Hart]

Blimey! is this really happening?

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/leeds-united-close-to-signing-hellas-verona-striker/


On 31 January 2014 21:02, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> Supposedly the reason for the sacking. Brian refused.
> On 31 Jan 2014 22:52, "Simon Hart"  wrote:
>
>> No idea how reliable this site is...
>>
>> http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/01/31/cagliari-loan-duo-to-leeds/
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Re: [LU] Calm down

[Simon Hart]

I agree. McD was a nice bloke who says the right things but I am surprised
at the reaction of some of the Leeds fans. I went to the Barnsley game
aswell and it was woeful. The sole tactic was to pass it to Lees to pump up
to the big man. Again and again. It was predictable and a piece of piss to
defend against but we had no other ideas. I vowed not to waste any more of
my money on the club after that game until there was a drastic improvement
in not just the team but the whole approach of the club. I am sick to the
back teeth of owners who think they can make a fast buck by flipping the
club once the manager has perfomed miracles whilst spending buttons. It's
never going to happen.

You can't get away from the fact that we are a very very poor team, far
worse than when Warnock was in charge. It's true McD has not been backed,
but I believe the players at the club are capable of playing much better
than they currently do. They showed what they can do against Watford. I'm
convinced if Poyet had got the job we would be a far better team by now.

I'm not endorsing what is going on at the club, just saying I'm not
surprised McD has gone and I'm not too disappointed either.

Didn't Don Cellino pump loads of money in to Cagliari and take them to the
top flight from nowhere? I know he sacked 38 managers in 20 years along the
way.


On 31 January 2014 21:18, Robert Heath  wrote:

> Let's wait and see.
>
> Obviously, I liked the sound of the 2 consortia led by Leeds fans.
>
> But...there might be some positives here:
> 1. McD was a nice bloke, but I was beginning to entertain doubts about him.
> One draw in 6 games! Actually, it was before that run that I started to
> worrythe 2 feeble feeble draws at home to Barnsley & B/burn, both of
> which I attended. After the Barnsley game, I happened to speak to the agent
> of the little blond lad who had run us ragged all day (can't remember his
> name.) The agent said the lad was avaiable and not expensive but that McD
> did not fancy him. (He's now gone to Blackpool, I believe so he'll get
> another chance to run us ragged in April.)
> 2. We might get some tasty Italian lads on loan.
> 3. This model worked pretty well for Watford.
> 4. It looks like we're going to get Festa as manager, but if
> not.Zola comes from Sardinia.
> 5. Spaghetti con pesto!
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[LU] Cagliari loan duo to Leeds

[Simon Hart]

No idea how reliable this site is...

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/01/31/cagliari-loan-duo-to-leeds/
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Re: [LU] the beginning of the end...

[Simon Hart]

Putting aside the fact the Enterprise top man was trying to take over Leeds
himself, and whatever you might think about what is currently going on, who
the fuck do Enterprise think they are? They sponsor us for fucks sake, they
do not have a place on the board, they do not make any football decisions.
We would all be livid if our sponsors were having a say on footballing
decisions.


On 31 January 2014 20:29, Simon Hart  wrote:

> Putting aside the fact the Enterprise top man was trying to take over
> Leeds himself, and whatever you might think about what is currently going
> on, who the fuck do Enterprise think they are? They sponsor us for fucks
> sake, they do not have a place on the board, they do not make any football
> decisions. We would all be livid if our sponsors were having a say on
> footballing decisions.
>
>
> On 31 January 2014 20:25, Richard Naef wrote:
>
>> Philhay reports;
>>
>>
>>
>> Enterprise Insurance tell me tonight that they will be withdrawing their
>> sponsorship of Leeds United in protest at this decision.
>>
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Re: [LU] Fwd: The life of Brian

[Simon Hart]

Only at Leeds United. What a basket case this club is.


On 30 January 2014 09:55, Ian Murray  wrote:

> The yep article has made me feel sick. Poor old Brian. It's just not how
> civilised people behave.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 30 Jan 2014, at 17:31, "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" <
> n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bloody shafted by another bloody off-shore Tory again...effin
> wankers...they are a
> > plague
> >
> >
> >
> >> -- Original Message --
> >> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
> >> To: LEEDSLIST 
> >> Date: 30 January 2014 at 06:37
> >> Subject: [LU] The life of Brian
> >>
> >> The Yorkshire Evening Post can today reveal an attempt by would-be Leeds
> >> United ...etc
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Re: [LU] Good news for rich walker

[Simon Hart]

Whatever is in Haigh's trouser pocket. 15p, a button and some pocket lint.
Should be enough to get Bechio back.

Does anybody really think this latest lot will be anything other than
another bunch of potless chancers?


On 8 January 2014 14:07, Ciaran Diver  wrote:

> Well Derby have just signed Bamford on loan from Chelsea for the season so
> looks like Becchio won't be going there! That's two premiership club
> signings already for Derby this month, shows they mean to make a real push
> for promotion - I wish we could see that kind of intent...
>
> I see news of the takeover (75% holding) is updated on the official site -
> wonder how much cash will be provided this month for transfers.
>
> > From: Richard walker 
> > To: Matt Anderson 
> > Cc: Leeds List 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Good news for rich walker
> >
> > Brilliant. I'd be surprised if this were true though.
> >
> > > On 7 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Matt Anderson  wrote:
> > >
> > > ... Becchio set for loan move to derby
> > >
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Re: [LU] On telly

[Simon Hart]

3 of our next 5 league games, 4 of the next 10, are on the box. This is a
good site for checking when http://www.live-footballontv.com/.


On 23 December 2013 11:28, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> Pray not on Israeli TV. We never ever win a televised game if seen here.
> On 23 Dec 2013 12:29, "David Brennan"  wrote:
>
> > I didn't realise until today that we're on telly on Boxing Day - 17.15 KO
> > Sky Sports.  So I thought I'd email the list in case anyone else here
> > didn't know either.  Probably just me that's missed it somehow and you've
> > all got your digital recorders primed.
> >
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Re: [LU] Murphy

[Simon Hart]

I have to say I'm not impressed. He looks lightweight to me and just not good 
enough for this level. Can't believe we spent 1mil on him.

I'm hoping with time he will prove me wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Aug 2013, at 18:27, Richard Walker  wrote:

> Ok I've had 6 pints but the general word  on the street is Murphy is one 
> paced and at best average. 
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Re: [LU] any ideas re chairmans tweet

[Simon Hart]

I have not seen any mention of Bates FM, does this mean it is being wound
up or sold off? Was it even part of the deal when GFH bought the club?


On 12 July 2013 14:05, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> BBC broadcasting the games not YR
> Take valium to lessen the intensity of your orgasm.
>
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
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>
> On 12 July 2013 16:03, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>
> > David Haigh @haighdavid33m
> > Just signed a very important deal for the future of #lufc Details on the
> > club wesbite shortly.
> >
> >
> > Will it be the normal 'new sponsor ' type deal or something good (eg
> > buying ER ?TA)
> >
> > Dave
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[LU] The Damned Utd on tonight

[Simon Hart]

The Damned United is on BBC4 tonight at 9pm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/today
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Re: [LU] £2.5M to get Poyet

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Sorry, should have binned the sig. Some of the old stuff that get's brought
to us is nowhere near as advanced as a washing machine.

I liked Warnock's comment about Hughes destroying another of his teams. I'm
sure some paranoid fans will take that the wrong way but it sounds to me
like at dig at Hughes and a warning to Leeds.



On 3 April 2013 11:44, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:

> Simon,
>
> You need to get a spin doctor to work on your signature block - it looks
> great until you see "...& Electronics Service"
> Makes me think of a washing machine repairman lmao
>
> I am in no doubt that the previous bit of that same line means you can get
> someone in the Physics Dept to make those washing machines disappear aka
> Doctor Who :)
>
> Pete
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Simon Hart
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2013 9:36 PM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] £2.5M to get Poyet
>
> £2.5M to get Poyet, according to the YEP. That rules him out as there's no
> way the current crop of potless chancers will be able to fund that.
>
>
> http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-face-2m-com
> po-bill-if-they-poach-poyet-1-5544295
> ?
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[LU] £2.5M to get Poyet

[Simon Hart]

£2.5M to get Poyet, according to the YEP. That rules him out as there's no
way the current crop of potless chancers will be able to fund that.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-face-2m-compo-bill-if-they-poach-poyet-1-5544295
?

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Re: [LU] Nail your colours to the mast

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Poyet for me. The start to our -15points season was amazing, the team
spirit was great and the wheels fell off when Poyet left. That tells you
something. I don't know how much money he has had to spend at Brighton but
he has done a remarkable job there. His players seem to like him and give
everything for him.

I would be optimistic with Poyet. I would be gutted if we appointed any of
O'Neil, Coyle, McLaren, Hughes, O'Leary, Southgate or McDermot. I would
take Di Mateo but he's a Champions league winning coach FFS, there's now
way he would come to a second rate championship club without a pot to piss
in.


On 2 April 2013 10:02,  wrote:

> On 02/04/2013 09:54, Guy Thornton wrote:
>
>> Incidentally even though Warnock's departure is now a done deal and not
>> an April Fools Day joke this
>> piece from the Grauniad still makes interesting reading:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/**football/blog/2013/mar/17/**
>> manager-sacking-reading-**premier-league<http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/mar/17/manager-sacking-reading-premier-league>
>>
>
>
> Well worth a read, Guy.  I liked the bit that says:
>
> "John Goddard, a professor of financial economics at the University of
> Bangor, and his co-author Stephen Dobson, of the University of Hull, tested
> the theory by using statistical models and regression analysis on a
> database with 40 years of Premier League and Football League information.
> Their conclusion was startling.
>
> "Sacking a manager is, on average, more harmful to a team's performance in
> the short term than doing nothing."
>
> In which case why did we sack Sgt Wilko? (Or even Brian Clough?)
>
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Re: [LU] Memberships sales suspended

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Yes it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. It's a pretty vague
message though.


On 21 February 2013 14:43, David Nattan  wrote:

> Not sure why they have suspended the 'extra time' scheme but the closing
> paragraph does not look as if they are scrapping memberships altogether
>
>
> *Any fans who are not Members but wish to register their interest for the
> 2013/14 season are advised to contact Ticket Services on 0871 334 1992 or
> email tick...@leedsunited.com*
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Richard Walker  >wrote:
>
> > I bleeding hope so - I am a true GFH fan is this their initiative.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Simon Hart 
> > To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 13:32
> > Subject: [LU] Memberships sales suspended
> >
> > Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
> > buying away tickets scam is going to end?
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130221/membership-sales-suspended_2247585_3083770
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[LU] Memberships sales suspended

[Simon Hart]

Interesting. Could this mean the buy a membership for the privilege of
buying away tickets scam is going to end?

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130221/membership-sales-suspended_2247585_3083770
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Re: [LU] For those keeping score

[Simon Hart]

Goals are here:
http://www.footytube.com/video/leeds-united-blackpool-feb20-160612


On 21 February 2013 10:14, Ian Murray  wrote:

> Anyone got a link to the goals?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 21 Feb 2013, at 16:33, "Richard Walker" 
> wrote:
>
> > Calm down fella - I never proclaimed Morrison as the messiah , I think I
> said 'adequate replacement' so stop making stuff up.
> >
> > I also said Luke Varney for England - you didn't pick up and that one.
> >
> > Yes it's one game but its the best football we've played for a while.
> Blackpool have some decent players - remember they've beaten us regularly
> and easily recently. If we lose dismally against Blackburn it will be all
> doom and gloom again but you're only as good as your last game and for me
> that means we're a half decent team.
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Paul Cundell 
> > To: Richard Walker 
> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013, 8:18
> > Subject: Re: [LU] For those keeping score
> >
> >
> > What utter tosh!
> > But in a fortnight that's seen us struggle against Wolves, lose abjectly
> to Boro and be humiliated by Citeh, I suppose you've got to cling to every
> glimmer of hope. Sure we out played Blackpool for long periods but we were
> a couple of Kenny saves from another abject defeat. To proclaim Morison as
> the messiah and that this is the end of hoofball is as ridiculous as
> intimating that hoofball was caused by Becchio. Colin obviously doesn't
> rate McCormack and preferred to play Becchio to McCormack, Poleon or Varney
> - hoofball is therefore Colin's interpretation of football and whilst he's
> still in charge it won't have gone away.
> > One swallow doesn't make a summer.
> >
> > Rich W wrote:
> > Well done Mark, brings out the Becchio fans. Anyone who went last night
> cannot deny that the future looks bright PBH (Post Becchio Hoofball) and
> surely his most ardent fans can't deny that performances are improving and
> in Morrison we have a more than adequate replacement.  More comments later
> if I get time. Luke Varney - man of the match, if only he had a football
> brain I'd be saying get him in the England team.
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Re: [LU] Managerial merry-go-round

[Simon Hart]

This article on Di Canio is well worth a read
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paolo-di-canio-my-life-speaks-for-me-6273526.html



On 19 February 2013 11:05, Lee Jones  wrote:

> His "nazi salute" is a roman salute that Lazio fans use, nothing to do
> with Nazi Germany and long predates that
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone (with a cracked screen)
> From: Damian Walsh
> Sent: 19/02/2013 10:27
> To: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Managerial merry-go-round
> As in "does he have any"? ;)
>
> I actually quite like the character Paolo Di Canio - or at least he comes
> across as a mostly likeable bloke, and he seems to be a pretty decent
> manager too. But I'd be uncomfortable having a fascist as a manager.
>
> Having a one as a chairman is bad enough ;)
>
> Damian
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Chris Briggs  >wrote:
>
> > Di Canio is now available. Thoughts?
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Annual away trip to see the lads

[Simon Hart]

11 browns. Typo, sorry.


On 16 February 2013 22:40, Simon Hart  wrote:

> Love your optimism Voicey and I've had a few drinks so I'm almost with
> you, but even half pissed I have to acknowledge the gulf in class. I don't
> think it will be another Chelsea but it will be comfortable for City
>
> Wish we had 12 Browns then at least we'd upset the fuckers.
>
>
> On 16 February 2013 21:36, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>
>> I'll give you three goals and take City
>> On Feb 16, 2013 10:51 PM, "dave walmsley" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > And so, it comes to pass. My once a year attendance. Spurs in 2010 then
>> > Arsenal twice and now Man City.
>> > This time, though, it'll be on the Didsbury Royal Oak special bus to the
>> > ground. Sat in the City end then drinks with the blue fans in the Oak
>> > afterwards.
>> >
>> > God how much I want Leeds to win this one. I will order a big saucer of
>> > cream and meow as I drink it in the boozer if we do.
>> >
>> > And you know what, I think we might just do it.
>> >
>> >
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Re: [LU] Annual away trip to see the lads

[Simon Hart]

Love your optimism Voicey and I've had a few drinks so I'm almost with you,
but even half pissed I have to acknowledge the gulf in class. I don't think
it will be another Chelsea but it will be comfortable for City

Wish we had 12 Browns then at least we'd upset the fuckers.


On 16 February 2013 21:36, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> I'll give you three goals and take City
> On Feb 16, 2013 10:51 PM, "dave walmsley" 
> wrote:
>
> > And so, it comes to pass. My once a year attendance. Spurs in 2010 then
> > Arsenal twice and now Man City.
> > This time, though, it'll be on the Didsbury Royal Oak special bus to the
> > ground. Sat in the City end then drinks with the blue fans in the Oak
> > afterwards.
> >
> > God how much I want Leeds to win this one. I will order a big saucer of
> > cream and meow as I drink it in the boozer if we do.
> >
> > And you know what, I think we might just do it.
> >
> >
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[LU] Fwd: FSF Score Campaign (for Away Fans)

[Simon Hart]

I can't see how this can work. Home fans will be mightily pissed off paying
£35 for a ticket knowing away fans in similar seats paid only £20. Home
fans will just try and buy tickets for the away end.

The price of watching football has got out of hand full stop. Prices need
to come down for all fans.


On 16 January 2013 12:25, Rick Duniec  wrote:

> The Football Supporters' Federation will launch the Score Campaign:
> Twenty's Plenty for Away Tickets in central Manchester on Thursday 24th
> January (7pm). The event is free and open to fans of ALL clubs - we want to
> see you there. This is the first in a series of nationwide meetings to be
> announced, including one in London on Thursday 31st January (venue TBC).
> REGISTRATION - Email your name and club to: tick...@fsf.org.uk.
> Manchester, Thursday 24th January (7pm): The Alibi (corner of Oxford
> Street and Portland Street), M1 4BH - click here to see a map. The venue
> has disabled access.
> London, Thursday 31st January: Venue TBC.
> The news that Manchester City returned 900 tickets for Sunday's visit to
> Arsenal was the ember that sparked the current fire but match-going fans
> have long known that football is unaffordable for many. This is especially
> true of away fans who, aside from match tickets, must contend with
> spiralling food, drink and travel costs.
> The idea behind the Score Campaign is simple - we want clubs throughout
> England and Wales to agree to charge no more than £20 for away match
> tickets (£15 concessions). These meetings will explain the fundamental
> ideas and principles behind the Score Campaign.
> They will also explore how we can bring together the different campaigns
> and petitions that are already in place. There are thousands of fans out
> there prepared to devote time and energy to this subject - these meetings
> will try and harness that energy.
> There has been a tremendous groundswell of opinion from fans with
> campaigns and petitions popping up all across the country. This feels like
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Re: [LU] Chris Houghton

[Simon Hart]

Hmmm, fair point. But how often does that happen? Most teams that go up are
favourites to drop straight back down unless they invest heavily.


On 11 December 2012 10:27, Lee Jones  wrote:

> Tell Swansea that...
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Simon Hart
> Sent: 11/12/2012 10:22
> To: Michael Benjamin
> Cc: LEEDSLIST
> Subject: Re: [LU] Chris Houghton
> How many times do we hear people say "even if we get up we have no chance
> of staying up"?
>
> No team goes up from the championship with a realistic chance of staying
> up. You have to get yourselves up first then invest in better players to
> stay up. You can not assemble a team capable of surviving the premiership
> whilst playing in the Championship, it's impossible. The players you need
> will not come to you until you are up.
>
>
> On 11 December 2012 07:19, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>
> > Early days yet but if the TO is serious [ & I have  many a doubt] then
> the
> > very first question to be posed is who is to be our long term manager?
> > I have no doubt now that Colin cannot get us up or if he does it will be
> > with a team that cannot stay up. He doesn't have the time & his agenda
> and
> > timeline does not match ours.
> > I don't think that it is his fault. He is another in the long line [ &
> > hopefully the last] of victims to MS's malignant lying and manipulations.
> > But the basic fault is that our team stinks. It has no real ability to
> play
> > as a unit next year. It  consists of loans and 'last payout' clapped out
> > knackers yard performers. A joke combination that sometimes flatters to
> > deceive.
> > There are maybe 5 players that could be in a squad worthy of its name. We
> > need 18 at least. In other words we are two seasons from a realistic
> > promotion challenge.
> > By realistic I mean one that goes up with a reasonable chance of staying
> > up.
> > To do that we need a proven manager who would take on the challenge &
> > exhibit stability. Of the batch of new successful managers I reckon Chris
> > Houghton. Firstly Leeds is and always will be a bigger team than Norwich.
> > Ignore present standings. Norwich are grossly over preforming and can
> never
> > go above where they are. Leeds can in theory and with guidance go the
> whole
> > way. Leeds really does belong in the top six. More than say Spurs.
> >  It would also give me a pleasant sense of 'revenge' to put one over on
> > them. But that issue is marginal.
> > So I am watching what happens not on the pitch, but off. More of the same
> > would mean that the managerial staff are not in for the long run, but to
> '
> > luck a promotion' & jump ship with a nice profit before the inevitable
> > relegation.  A managerial change and a slow rebuilding would show a
> > different and healthier agenda.
> > But there is this asteroid and the Mayan calendar to deal with before
> that
> > :) [just how serious is the former?]
> > Michael
> >
> > Dr Michael Benjamin,
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Re: [LU] Chris Houghton

[Simon Hart]

How many times do we hear people say "even if we get up we have no chance
of staying up"?

No team goes up from the championship with a realistic chance of staying
up. You have to get yourselves up first then invest in better players to
stay up. You can not assemble a team capable of surviving the premiership
whilst playing in the Championship, it's impossible. The players you need
will not come to you until you are up.


On 11 December 2012 07:19, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> Early days yet but if the TO is serious [ & I have  many a doubt] then the
> very first question to be posed is who is to be our long term manager?
> I have no doubt now that Colin cannot get us up or if he does it will be
> with a team that cannot stay up. He doesn't have the time & his agenda and
> timeline does not match ours.
> I don't think that it is his fault. He is another in the long line [ &
> hopefully the last] of victims to MS's malignant lying and manipulations.
> But the basic fault is that our team stinks. It has no real ability to play
> as a unit next year. It  consists of loans and 'last payout' clapped out
> knackers yard performers. A joke combination that sometimes flatters to
> deceive.
> There are maybe 5 players that could be in a squad worthy of its name. We
> need 18 at least. In other words we are two seasons from a realistic
> promotion challenge.
> By realistic I mean one that goes up with a reasonable chance of staying
> up.
> To do that we need a proven manager who would take on the challenge &
> exhibit stability. Of the batch of new successful managers I reckon Chris
> Houghton. Firstly Leeds is and always will be a bigger team than Norwich.
> Ignore present standings. Norwich are grossly over preforming and can never
> go above where they are. Leeds can in theory and with guidance go the whole
> way. Leeds really does belong in the top six. More than say Spurs.
>  It would also give me a pleasant sense of 'revenge' to put one over on
> them. But that issue is marginal.
> So I am watching what happens not on the pitch, but off. More of the same
> would mean that the managerial staff are not in for the long run, but to '
> luck a promotion' & jump ship with a nice profit before the inevitable
> relegation.  A managerial change and a slow rebuilding would show a
> different and healthier agenda.
> But there is this asteroid and the Mayan calendar to deal with before that
> :) [just how serious is the former?]
> Michael
>
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist
> ---
> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
> http://www.myRay.com
> http://www.myRay.org
> --
> Mental Health:
> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com
> 
> Auditing || Quality Control
> http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/
> 
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Re: [LU] Friday night knobhead.

[Simon Hart]

I don't condone what the stupid twat did at all, but far worse assaults
happen on the field, during games, between players all the time.

Having said that, given he seems to ignore his banning orders and has "a
long history of football-related offending" I think he got what he deserved.

Si.


On 22 October 2012 14:52,  wrote:

> >>It was a very very minor assault and does not warrant 4 months in the
> big house, IMHO of course.<<
>
> True if it had been outside a pub, but it was on a football field,  against
> a player, during a game.
>
> In my book, that's crossing a line that should not be crossed, and as  a
> result, the strongest sentence available should be applied.
>
> It wasn't, according to Sky Sports News, "because he had pleaded  guilty".
>
> Run it past me how he might have pleaded not guilty??
>
> I suspect, Ian, you'd be calling for the same punishments that I'm calling
> for if it had been a Wednesday fan who'd pushed Kenny in the face.
>
> M
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Re: [LU] Baaarnsli

[Simon Hart]

It was just my opinion that the team had more purpose whilst he was on the
pitch and once he went off we were completely bereft of ideas. I'm not
saying he had a great game or looked particularly dangerous because he
didn't. But with the current players available the team is better with him
in it.


On 7 October 2012 16:56, Richard Walker  wrote:

> Not sure how you work that out ? He never threatened at all and the some
> total of his efforts was a header into south stand Row Z? In fact, he was
> completely ineffective  As always.
>
> It's just good for him that Macca is injured and he's picked up 3 pens
> otherwise we might be questioning 1 goal in the last 7 starts.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 7 Oct 2012, at 15:19, Simon Hart  wrote:
>
> No night on the tiles. I'd had a few at home and was mindlessly watching
> crap on TV.
>
> I do think it would be good to have someone better than Bechio. A big,
> powerful, good on the ball, goal scoring Ricky Lambert type would be good
> but for now we have Bechio and Gray. Despite his limitations, I thought we
> looked more likely to produce something with Bechio on the field than we
> did when he went off.
>
>
>
> On 7 October 2012 10:01, Richard Walker  wrote:
>
>> Apologies I will ensure that I do better next time.
>>
>> Becchio is shit ... Thought I better get that one in early today.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 7 Oct 2012, at 09:48, Robert Heath  wrote:
>>
>> > Obviously, Simon thought that, since he was going to say something
>> mildly
>> > complimentary, or positive, about Becchio, then he had better post it in
>> > the middle of the night to avoid the attentions of the Anti-Luciano
>> > Nazis...and it worked! An opinion that Becchio is mildly
>> > effective at this level was allowed to stand on this list unchallenged
>> for
>> > SIX HOURS before drawing the entirely predictable refutation.
>> >
>> > SIX HOURS, Walker?! Come on, man.
>> >
>> > On 7 October 2012 11:36, Richard Naef > >wrote:
>> >
>> >>> On Behalf Of Simon Hart
>> >>> Sent: 07 October 2012 03:33
>> >>> A few thoughts on today's game, my first visit of the season I'm sorry
>> >>> to say, though I have seen all the televised games.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> sent 3:33am! - fuck me simon you must have had a night on the tiles
>> and you
>> >> can still focus enough to type!
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [LU] Baaarnsli

[Simon Hart]

No night on the tiles. I'd had a few at home and was mindlessly watching
crap on TV.

I do think it would be good to have someone better than Bechio. A big,
powerful, good on the ball, goal scoring Ricky Lambert type would be good
but for now we have Bechio and Gray. Despite his limitations, I thought we
looked more likely to produce something with Bechio on the field than we
did when he went off.



On 7 October 2012 10:01, Richard Walker  wrote:

> Apologies I will ensure that I do better next time.
>
> Becchio is shit ... Thought I better get that one in early today.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 7 Oct 2012, at 09:48, Robert Heath  wrote:
>
> > Obviously, Simon thought that, since he was going to say something mildly
> > complimentary, or positive, about Becchio, then he had better post it in
> > the middle of the night to avoid the attentions of the Anti-Luciano
> > Nazis...and it worked! An opinion that Becchio is mildly
> > effective at this level was allowed to stand on this list unchallenged
> for
> > SIX HOURS before drawing the entirely predictable refutation.
> >
> > SIX HOURS, Walker?! Come on, man.
> >
> > On 7 October 2012 11:36, Richard Naef  >wrote:
> >
> >>> On Behalf Of Simon Hart
> >>> Sent: 07 October 2012 03:33
> >>> A few thoughts on today's game, my first visit of the season I'm sorry
> >>> to say, though I have seen all the televised games.
> >>>
> >>
> >> sent 3:33am! - fuck me simon you must have had a night on the tiles and
> you
> >> can still focus enough to type!
> >>
> >>
>
>
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[LU] Baaarnsli

[Simon Hart]

A few thoughts on today's game, my first visit of the season I'm sorry to
say, though I have seen all the televised games.

I thought this was a poor game between two average teams. Barnsley had most
of the possession, they kept the ball off us with ease at times. I would
say they were by far the better footballing team but they never really
looked like scoring. Luckily for us they had no cutting edge what so ever.
Marlon Harewood is still an imposing presence but thankfully he is no
longer mobile enough for the championship and he blew his one chance to
score.

After being very impressed with the Everton performance and recent results
I have to say I expected better, but even though we walked away with 3
points I was dissapointed with today's performance. It was a weird game.
For me, we were crap, but despite Barnsley's possession I never for one
moment thought we would loose the game. We had a few short spells
of possession ourselves but we too had no cutting edge. Even when we did
manage to hold on to the ball for a short while you never felt is was
leading anywhere. They had few ideas going forward and we had less.

Luckily for us we got a penalty which was the only way we were going to
score. I was sat the South East corner with the Mrs and daughter so had a
good view and thought it was a stonewall penalty. They criticized the ref
on the Football league show because in slow motion it was clear that
contact was just outside the area, but in real life and at full speed it
looked for all the world like a penalty. I do think the media are arseholes
towards officials in these situations. Thankfully Bechio scuffed it in. You
can't tell me he meant to do that.

Which brings me on to Bechio. I'm not a fan by any means and yes his touch
is shocking, but when he was replaced by Gray we became even more toothless
up front. We missed his presence. Life suddenly became much easier for
their centre backs because  despite the ball bouncing off him, Bechio is a
massive pain in the arse for opposition defenders. His lack of pace is
infuriating but there is no doubt, for me, that a battering ram like him
can be useful at this level. I wasn't really sure why he was dragged off at
the time, but once he went off I thought we were even less threatening.
There was one good cross put in from the left that nobody attacked which I
thought was made for Bechio, shame he wasn't on. There was only one team
likely to score after he went off and it wasn't us.

I thought Austin looked fucked. I like him but I think he and many of the
team will benefit from the international break. If he gets a break.

Brown was Brown, the occasional good challenge mixed with lots of shocking
ones.

Byram I thought did well because it didn't look to me as though he had much
support. Every time they pressed down their left he looked to have to split
two players, which is a lot to ask of a young inexperienced guy.

I think Lees is a great prospect at center back. He didn't have it easy but
looks to have a maturity beyond his years. Pearce however, whilst
always committed, looked reckless at times. I thought Peltier did ok at
left back though he was never really put under any pressure.

I thought White looked exactly what he is, a converted left back. Yes he
has pace but he has no guile. He is most certainly not the new Ryan Giggs.
Today he was up against a player of equal pace and he didn't know how to
beat him. He doesn't have the tricks in his locker that a natural winger
has which is probably why he has always been a left back. Look at Diouf,
despite his lack of pace he can still beat his man with a drop of the
shoulder and get a cross in. White doesn't have that, he only has pace
which wasn't enough today.

Tonge did o.k. before he went off but did nothing out of the ordinary.
Sadly something out of the ordinary is exactly what you need from your
attacking midfielders and we don't get that from White or Tonge. Yes there
has been recent exceptions where they have both scored crackers, but
neither look likely to do that too often and neither look capable of
producing the moments of magic that change games and make average teams
good. I do live in hope that White at least may prove me wrong.

Diouf wasn't as good as he has been but was still our best player. It's a
shame there isn't one or two of equal quality around him.

That may all sound a bit downbeat but I still enjoyed the day and the 3
points. We're up there challenging whilst not exactly pulling up
trees which is a good start. If we are to go up though we will need more.
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Re: [LU] TOMA

[Simon Hart]

I don't think Warnock even has the money to fund loan deals at the moment
so the sooner this is all sorted the better.



On 27 September 2012 17:16, Ian Murray  wrote:

> I think it does. It will clearly settle the players down and the fans will
> have no Bates out protests to worry about, we can just focus on being in
> touch come January. Sign a few quality players then and automatic is still
> very much on.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 27 Sep 2012, at 17:00, "Michael Gardiner" 
> wrote:
>
> > Does it really matter when the deal's done so long as its done and
> settled
> > before the opening of the window?
> >
> > Michael A. Gardiner
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> >
> > On 9/27/12 3:34 AM, "leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:21:09 +0100
> >> From: Andy Clayton 
> >> To: LEEDSLIST 
> >> Subject: [LU] TOMA
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> A unit of Bahraini investment firm Gulf Finance House (GFH) will lead
> and
> >> arrange the purchase of Leeds United
> >> Football<http://football.uk.reuters.com/>Club, GFH said in a statement
> >> today.
> >>
> >> "GFH would like to confirm that GFH Capital Ltd, a 100 percent
> subsidiary
> >> of GFH, has signed an exclusive agreement to lead and arrange the
> >> acquisition of Leeds City Holdings, the parent company of LUFC," the
> >> statement said.
> >>
> >> It did not elaborate on how or when the acquisition might take place, or
> >> give financial terms.
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Re: [LU] Frederic Piquionne

[Simon Hart]

West Ham fans are happy about it,
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/posts/502d458ecb241e7404000842?



On 16 August 2012 22:18, Jeremy Adams  wrote:

>
> 94 goals in 10 seasons. 9.4 a season isn't exactly setting the world
> alight for a striker.
>
> > From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:27:42 +0100
> > To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> > CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Frederic Piquionne
> >
> > He's clearly shit.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 16 Aug 2012, at 21:09, "Richard Walker" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > He's got to be better than Becchio
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On 16 Aug 2012, at 19:52, DAVID NATTAN 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCVvaqb5ro#
> > >> some good goals - first one and one on 2mins 30 secs best ones#
> > >> His goals ratio not great BUT at poor teams (West Ham and Portsmouth
> ) and in the PREM#
> > >> Willl.wait and see if he signs and then watch him play before I make
> up my mind  -can't be much worse for us than Paynter Forsell. or Webber
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> From: Nicholas Armit 
> > >> To: DAVID NATTAN ; listleedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 19:38
> > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Frederic Piquionne
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sounds promising...
> > >>
> > >> At age 17, in 1995, Piquionne played in the suburbs ofParis FC at
> Charenton. Not really convincing, he left the city to settle in Martinique,
> in Fort-de-France. There, he played football in Division d'Honneur as
> amateur club Golden Star and then to JS Morne Blanc. For three years he
> worked as a shoe salesman in a store located in downtown Fort-de-France.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> From: DAVID NATTAN 
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> > >> Subject: [LU] Frederic Piquionne
> > >>
> > >> Sky sports news said we agreed fee etc for Frederic Piquionne from
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Re: [LU] Team Yorksha

[Simon Hart]

There is also Micah Richards and Danny Rose.


On 7 August 2012 09:40, John Boocock  wrote:

> Updated
>
> 1. NICOLA ADAMS  Boxing Leeds
> 2. LIZZIE ARMITSTEAD  Road Cycling Otley
> 3. SARAH BARROW Diving Leeds
> 4. RACHEL BRAGG Volleyball York
> 5. ALISTAIR BROWNLEE  Triathlon  Leeds
> 6. JONATHAN BROWNLEE Triathlon  Leeds
> 7. RICHARD BUCK  4x400m Relay  born York
> 8. LUKE CAMPBELL Boxing Hull
> 9. EDWARD CLANCY  Cycling Track  Huddersfield born
> 10. KATHERINE COPELAND Rowing  Stokesley
> 11. JESSICA ENNIS Athletics  Sheffield
> 12. ELEANOR FAULKNER Swimming  Sheffield
> 13. DEBBIE FLOOD Rowing Harrogate born
> 14. REBECCA GALLANTREE Diving City of Leeds Club
> 15. PAUL GOODISON Sailing Rotherham born
> 16. JOANNE JACKSON Swimming Northallerton born
> 17. JACK LAUGHER  Diving Ripon
> 18. FRAN LEIGHTON  Water Polo Rotherham
> 19. BARRY MIDDLETON Hockey Captain Doncaster
> 20. AMY OLIVER Archery Mexborough
> 21. JOANNA PARKER Table Tennis Rotherham
> 22. BEN PIPES Volleyball Hull
> 23. TOM RANSLEY Rowing  York City Rowing Club
> 24. NICK ROBINSON-BAKER Diving Sheffield
> 25. JOSEPH ROEBUCK  Swimming Rotherham born
> 26. HUSAYN ROSOWSKY Fencing Sheffield born
> 27. ADAM SCHOLEFIELD Water Polo  Leeds
> 28. ELIZABETH SIMMONDS Swimming Beverley born
> 29. HANNAH STARLING  Diving Leeds
> 30. SARAH STEVENSON  Taekwondo Doncaster born
> 31. CHRIS TOMLINSON  Athletics  Middlesbrough
> 32. ANDREW TRIGGS-HODGE  Rowing Hebden
> 33. REBECCA TURNER Swimming Rotherham
> 34. MATTHEW WELLS  Rowing Bradford born
> 35. AIMEE WILLMOTT Swimming Middlesborough born
> 36. ALASTAIR WILSON Hockey Sheffield
> 37. NICOLA WILSON  Equestrian Eventing Northallerton
> 38. ALICIA BLAGG Diving Wakefield
> 39. FRAN LEIGHTON Water Polo Rotherham
> 40. ADAM SCHOLEFIELD Water Polo Leeds
> 41. Barry Middleton Hockey Doncaster
> 42. Alistair Wilson Hockey Sheffield
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Re: [LU] TOMA

[Simon Hart]

I coach my daughters under 13s team. This coming season will be our 5th. Love 
it, my only problem is curbing my competitive nature.

Si.

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On 20 Jul 2012, at 17:26, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> Thanks
> How many of us are involved with sport at the community level?
> Seems a lot.
> On Jul 20, 2012 3:38 PM, "Jezz Thorpe"  wrote:
> 
>> Feck me Mike..tremendous...I'm ready to destroy all opposition...I'm
>> getting
>> that printed on a shirt ready to motivate the U11's Rugby Team I coach
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you're not filled with pride by putting on the shirt then don't put it
>>> on. if you are not prepared to die on the pitch for that shirt then
>>> don't go on the pitch. Show me  11 guys with belief and I'll show you
>> contenders.
>>> I'll show you the champions.  11 guys who will fight till the end for
>>> each other  -- they are the champions...
>> 
>> 
>> That's what I want -- no fucking Jessie doing me a favor.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[LU] New away kit

[Simon Hart]

The new away kit is out and looks pretty smart.

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120705/201214-away-kit-revealed_2247585_2833244

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[LU] Ice rink for Elland Road

[Simon Hart]

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/ice-rink-planned-for-elland-road-1-4670945

>From the article it appears this is independent of the club as no link is
mentioned. Does anybody know where exactly it is going to be?

Si.
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[LU] Leeds sign Drury

[Simon Hart]

At last we have another player in. Warnock seems to like him, can't say I
know much about him myself but he sounds like an experienced pro.

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120619/norwich-defender-agrees-leeds-deal_2247585_2816523?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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[LU] Aizelwood

[Simon Hart]

Look like Aizelwood is in a spot of bother, the tosser.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/may/17/sfo-football-skills-fraud-probe
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Re: [LU] takeover latestish

[Simon Hart]

People are getting giddy but I don't think anything will happen.

If it is true that Bates is only interested in investment and not a
takeover then this is going nowhere. Who in their right mind would go in to
business with Bates?

Si.


On 30 May 2012 15:13, Ian Murray  wrote:

> We want a real one! I know that being owned by Arabs will stick in the
> claw a bit Mikey, but think of the greater good!
>
> Seriously, what do people think of this? I think we've been here before
> but that Bates may well think his time's up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 May 2012, at 15:10, "Rick Duniec"  wrote:
>
> > Unless you are talking about last nights Kuwaiti, Abdul from Bahrain was
> real enough.
> >  - Original Message -
> >  Weve already had a phony sheik.
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[LU] Leeds United - the truth, the whole truth....

[Simon Hart]

According to the article there are £13M of other costs of which £2 is the
rent.

Other costs are high though compared to other championship clubs, examples
given are Ipswitch £5M, Norwich & Reading £6M, Derby & QPR £10M & Leicester
£12M.

I wonder how much we spend on legal fees after Bates' program outbursts?



On 18 May 2012 12:15, Robert Heath  wrote:

> I don't believe that theory at all. Bates is a lot of bad things, but one
> thing I think you can't accuse him of is being a financial
> fackwit..and only an f.f. would give up the chance to earn many
> tens of millions to avoid paying 5 million.
>
> The thing that jumped out for me was that the mystery owner of the ground
> (who we all know is actually Bates himself) is pocketing 13 million or so
> in rent every year from the club.
>
> ( I notice the bastard also scored a century against Yorkshire at
> Headingley yesterday.)
>
>
> On 18 May 2012 14:00, Simon Hart  wrote:
>
>> It's an excellent article with lots of good info but this jumped out at
>> me...
>>
>> "That said, Leeds do have other important potential liabilities: (a) if
>> they are promoted to the Premier League before the 2017/18 season, they
>> have to pay £4.75 million to the liquidator;"
>>
>> One of the often repeated conspiracy theories is that Bates is not
>> interested in promotion whilst that will trigger a payment to the
>> liquidator. I'm sure it has been said that the deadline for triggering a
>> payment was this season which is clearly bollocks if the article is
>> correct. Considering the riches available after promotion it would be
>> madness to hold back in order to avoid paying less than £5M.
>>
>> So, either that particular conspiracy theory is total bollocks or we have
>> a
>> lot longer to wait before we put up a meaningful challenge.
>>
>> Bring on 2017/18!
>>
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Re: [LU] Leeds United - the truth, the whole truth....

[Simon Hart]

It's an excellent article with lots of good info but this jumped out at
me...

"That said, Leeds do have other important potential liabilities: (a) if
they are promoted to the Premier League before the 2017/18 season, they
have to pay £4.75 million to the liquidator;"

One of the often repeated conspiracy theories is that Bates is not
interested in promotion whilst that will trigger a payment to the
liquidator. I'm sure it has been said that the deadline for triggering a
payment was this season which is clearly bollocks if the article is
correct. Considering the riches available after promotion it would be
madness to hold back in order to avoid paying less than £5M.

So, either that particular conspiracy theory is total bollocks or we have a
lot longer to wait before we put up a meaningful challenge.

Bring on 2017/18!



On 18 May 2012 11:00, John Lee  wrote:

> This is about the best Summary of Leeds and where we are, that I can
> understand, that I've read in quite some time. Worth reading.
>
>
> http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/leeds-united-marching-on-together.html
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Re: [LU] Eleven told they can go

[Simon Hart]

Good point. I can't believe we gave him more than a year given his injury
problems.



On 2 May 2012 17:01,  wrote:

>
>
> I suspect the PFA would have strong words if a long-term injured  player
> under contract was "let go".
>
>
> >>I would have let Kisnorbo go aswell.<<
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Re: [LU] Surplus to requirements

[Simon Hart]

My own opinion of Clayton is that when he's good, he's very good, but more
often than not he's disappointing. I would have kept him because he's still
young and he might find the consistency you need from him.

I guess Brown has been kept because he's a good experienced pro to have as
cover for the midfield.

One thing is for sure, there needs to be a lot of new signings before next
season, 8 to 10 new players I would say.


On 2 May 2012 16:13, Wiggy  wrote:

> The officious site reports that 11 players have been told they're surplus
> to requirements :
>
> Clayton (eh?)
> Nunez
> Paynter
> Connolly
> O'Brien
> Rachubka
> Bruce
> Sam
> Forsell
> Webber
> Maik Taylor
>
> with new contracts being offered to:
>
> Snodds
> White
> Macca
> Thompson
> Leeds
> Brown (reduced deal for one year)
>
> Why keep Brown and not Clayton?
>
> Wiggy.
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Re: [LU] Eleven told they can go

[Simon Hart]

That leaves us pretty thin on the ground with only 16 squad members, 4 of
which are young lads.
I would have let Kisnorbo go aswell.

1 Andy Lonergan
3 Patrick Kisnorbo
6 Robbie Rogers
8 Michael Brown
10 Luciano Becchio
16 Danny Pugh
22 Tom Lees
23 Robert Snodgrass
26 Leigh Bromby
27 Davide Somma
28 Aidan White
29 Zac Thompson
30 Alex Cairns
31 Charlie Taylor
32 Lewis Turner
44 Ross McCormack



On 2 May 2012 16:00, Simon Hart  wrote:

> Eleven told they can go. Clayton a surprise.
>
>
> http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295
>
> Leeds United manager Neil Warnock has placed six players on the transfer
> list and has told five more their contracts won't be renewed.
>
> The boss met with all his playing staff individually on Wednesday when he
> informed them of his decisions, and a total of 11 senior players could now
> be set to leave the club this summer as the manager looks to re-build for
> the new season.
>
> Midfielder Adam Clayton, strikers Ramon Nunez and Billy 
> Paynter<http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295#>,
> defenders Paul 
> Connolly<http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295#>and
>  Andy O'Brien, and goalkeeper Paul Rachubka are the contracted players
> who have been placed on the transfer list.
>
> In addition, Alex 
> Bruce<http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295#>,
> Lloyd 
> Sam<http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295#>,
> Mikael Forsell, Danny Webber and Maik Taylor are the players who have been
> informed that their contracts will not be renewed and are free to leave the
> club this summer.
>
> Of the players to be placed on the transfer list Clayton has been the most
> prolific this season with the midfielder having made 46 appearances,
> scoring six goals, including the Goal of the Season winner, against
> Leicester in November.
>
> Connolly has figured 30 times this term, but Nunez and Paynter have found
> their appearances limited. Rachubka has made seven appearances, and has
> spent much of the season on loan, first at Tranmere then at Leyton Orient.
>
> O'Brien has made 38 appearances since joining the club, initially on loan
> in October 2010, but he has figured just six times this season.
>
> Of the players not being offered new deals Bruce was the only one to start
> the final game of the season against Leicester City. Bruce, the longest
> serving of the out of contract players, has figured just seven times this
> term, and made 32 appearances during his two years with the club.
>
> Webber, who joined on a short-term deal in February, and Forssell, who was
> signed until the end of the season last September, both came on as
> substitutes against Leicester.
>
> Winger Sam, who was signed in the summer of 2010 and has made 39
> appearances for the club, including just three starts this season, was
> loaned out to Notts County in March.
>
> Goalkeeper Taylor, another short-term signing, was loaned to Millwall in
> March with a view to joining the London club on a longer-term basis.
> In addition to the above players, Ben 
> Parker<http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfiles/0,,10273%7E30137,00.html>and
>  Mika Vayrynen had their contracts cancelled last month while loan man
> Darren O'Dea was told that the club would not be making his move permanent.
>
>
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[LU] Eleven told they can go

[Simon Hart]

Eleven told they can go. Clayton a surprise.

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/eleven-told-they-can-go_2247585_2757295

Leeds United manager Neil Warnock has placed six players on the transfer
list and has told five more their contracts won't be renewed.

The boss met with all his playing staff individually on Wednesday when he
informed them of his decisions, and a total of 11 senior players could now
be set to leave the club this summer as the manager looks to re-build for
the new season.

Midfielder Adam Clayton, strikers Ramon Nunez and Billy
Paynter,
defenders Paul 
Connollyand
Andy O'Brien, and goalkeeper Paul Rachubka are the contracted players
who have been placed on the transfer list.

In addition, Alex
Bruce,
Lloyd 
Sam,
Mikael Forsell, Danny Webber and Maik Taylor are the players who have been
informed that their contracts will not be renewed and are free to leave the
club this summer.

Of the players to be placed on the transfer list Clayton has been the most
prolific this season with the midfielder having made 46 appearances,
scoring six goals, including the Goal of the Season winner, against
Leicester in November.

Connolly has figured 30 times this term, but Nunez and Paynter have found
their appearances limited. Rachubka has made seven appearances, and has
spent much of the season on loan, first at Tranmere then at Leyton Orient.

O'Brien has made 38 appearances since joining the club, initially on loan
in October 2010, but he has figured just six times this season.

Of the players not being offered new deals Bruce was the only one to start
the final game of the season against Leicester City. Bruce, the longest
serving of the out of contract players, has figured just seven times this
term, and made 32 appearances during his two years with the club.

Webber, who joined on a short-term deal in February, and Forssell, who was
signed until the end of the season last September, both came on as
substitutes against Leicester.

Winger Sam, who was signed in the summer of 2010 and has made 39
appearances for the club, including just three starts this season, was
loaned out to Notts County in March.

Goalkeeper Taylor, another short-term signing, was loaned to Millwall in
March with a view to joining the London club on a longer-term basis.
In addition to the above players, Ben
Parkerand
Mika Vayrynen had their contracts cancelled last month while loan man
Darren O'Dea was told that the club would not be making his move permanent.
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[LU] Cheeky buggers!

[Simon Hart]

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[LU] Cheeky buggers!

[Simon Hart]

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Re: [LU] a lot of history here

[Simon Hart]

Nif,

I think you may be giving me credit for someone else's generosity. I do
remember meeting you at the Adolphi, and I remember giving a few listers a
lift from there to the ground, but whether they were on the same day and if
one of those listers was you I have no idea. I can barely remember what I
did last week.

Si.


On 28 March 2012 14:27, N If  wrote:

> aaah memories
>
>  And all who have helped out with tickets, and transport.  Especially Simon
> Hart (?), Glenn/Glynn. and all you others.  Fun at away matches: JoKing in
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Re: [LU] list down?

[Simon Hart]

I think I joined in 92, it was in the early days of the list anyway.

I see all tonights results went in our favour again, we need Donny to do us
a favour at Brum on Friday now. I can't believe how often this is
happening, none of the teams from 4th to 12th appear good enough to put a
run together. Are we capable?

I thought we were until I watched the Hammers game, where I thought we were
dreadful. All we did was pump it long to Bechio, let them have the second
ball then try to harry them in to mistakes. Socking tactics. Then the
Forest game, oh dear!

I was back to thinking we had no chance again then along came tonights
results. Unbelievably we are still only 3 points off the play-offs, though
if Brum win on Friday we will be back to 5, all teams having played the
same amount of games.

At least we're still in with a shout, just.
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Re: [LU] Must win

[Simon Hart]

Lets be positive, it was 7-7 on aggregate.

I'll get my coat.


On 20 March 2012 21:34, Sutton / Smail  wrote:

> "Being Leeds born and bred I am sure that we'll lose..."Solid gold
> prediction with extra points for the severity / style of loss!Just when we
> thought things were improvingSeason pretty much finished now.
> Relegation avoided - I think?Dave
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Re: [LU] Miracle Watch.....

[Simon Hart]

It's the desire the team are now showing that makes me optimistic. A few
weeks ago I had given up on this season but I am now confident we will make
the play offs.


On 14 March 2012 17:38, Dr Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> Only optimists can allow themselves some optimism. But we're from Leeds
> FFS...
>
> Mind you anybody that thinks you take a pale load of shit, turn it
> upside down  & grow nice tasty rhubarb has to be an optimist.
>
> I always thought we were pessimists. Seems I was wrong.
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> On 14 March 2012 19:32, Simon Hart  wrote:
>
>> The next 4 games are all very winnable and would put us on 65 with 6 to
>> play.
>>
>> Though I know there's not a cat in hell's chance of Leeds living up to my
>> school boy like optimism.
>>
>> On 14 March 2012 17:13, Matt Anderson  wrote:
>>
>> > If I remember correctly I posted something last season about the highest
>> > and lowest play off totals and it was about 67 in a good year or when
>> there
>> > are half a dozen  outstanding teams it's 74.
>> >
>> > Simple task really, reach 70 points and we are in I guess as there are
>> no
>> > really outstanding teams.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > On 14 Mar 2012, at 15:20, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hull picking up points is irrelevant. We need the number of points the
>> > sixth-placed club has as low as possible (i.e. as easy for us to
>> overtake
>> > as possible), and the way for that to happen last night was for Hull to
>> > beat Cardiff.
>> > >
>> > > Sean
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: [LU] Quiet List

[Simon Hart]

If you charge around like a headless chicken decent players will pass it
along the back line and play triangles around you and make you look daft /
wear you out. I think the dawdling is an attempt to get close enough to
press before they notice. If you are going to press you need to do it as a
team which to be fair, we have been doing better recently.



On 14 March 2012 17:23, Nicholas Armit  wrote:

> With all the talk of the team "effort" why does Becchio dawdle in the
> general direction of the goalie or defender when they have the ball? Why
> not either a) don't do anything and keep the team's shape or b) actually
> run to put some pressure on the player. Doing a bit of neither pisses me
> off.
>
> Alan Smith
>
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Re: [LU] Miracle Watch.....

[Simon Hart]

The next 4 games are all very winnable and would put us on 65 with 6 to
play.

Though I know there's not a cat in hell's chance of Leeds living up to my
school boy like optimism.

On 14 March 2012 17:13, Matt Anderson  wrote:

> If I remember correctly I posted something last season about the highest
> and lowest play off totals and it was about 67 in a good year or when there
> are half a dozen  outstanding teams it's 74.
>
> Simple task really, reach 70 points and we are in I guess as there are no
> really outstanding teams.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 14 Mar 2012, at 15:20, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hull picking up points is irrelevant. We need the number of points the
> sixth-placed club has as low as possible (i.e. as easy for us to overtake
> as possible), and the way for that to happen last night was for Hull to
> beat Cardiff.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Banning orders

[Simon Hart]

Oops I was only including home games but of course some of those orders may
be down to incidents at away games so the per match figures are much better
than that.



On 14 March 2012 13:00, Simon Hart  wrote:

> Thanks Chris.
>
> If the banning orders run for between 3 and 5 years that is between 20 and
> 33 per year, or between 1 to 1.5 per match (not including cup games). I
> would say that is not bad for a club the size of Leeds. There will always
> be the odd dickhead.
>
> The story is bollocks and worthy of The Mirror.
>
> Si.
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2012 12:30, Chris Briggs  wrote:
>
>> Si,
>>
>> I think that you may be confusing things a little.
>> A Football Banning Order is an ancillary order put in place by the Courts
>> when an offender has been convicted of other offences (ie, assault, public
>> order offences, etc) that have taken place either before, during or after a
>> football match, this includes travel and generally runs for a period of
>> between 3 and 5 years. This is the one that results in visits to police
>> station on match day, surrender of passport, etc, it is nothing to do with
>> the club.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>


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