Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-15 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist
 Not sure why there's an end of season events night when when we've no idea of 
the outcome ?
and surely Archie and others should be in bed so they're fresh and ready for 
training tomorrow 
On Monday, 15 April 2024 at 11:23:56 BST, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Take That got to number 1 - they’re still sh*te :-)

If Rutter and Summerville can rediscover the form that got them the awards, 
then they should absolutely play, but if Saturday was their new level, they can 
admire their awards sat on the bench for me? Of course we need to move the ball 
quickly for either to be at their most effective, so the Meslier-Ampadu-Rodon 
slow-waltz needs to end!





> On 15 Apr 2024, at 08:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Anyway I see that those players who “should be dropped” all won awards last 
> night.
> 
> Including Summerville, player of the season in Champs.
> 
> Still eh. What do they know.
> 
> I’d rather they were lining up for us, than against us.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2024, at 20:47, Damian WALSH  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that Farke has been brilliant and I hope that he long continues to
>> be so for Leeds United.
>> 
>> But I'm pretty sure that the dropped points these last matches are down to
>> him and not the players. They are good enough to go (& stay) up but they
>> need to be let off the leash because they're not good enough to play with
>> the metaphorical hand tied behind their back. The team has got to move up a
>> couple of gears and the handbrake has to come off (preferably the other way
>> round or there'll be a horrible smell of burning) - that's almost certainly
>> down to the manager ...
>> 
>> BTW I don't want to lose any of the players - I've even warmed to Firpo :)
>> 
>> Damian
>> 
>> 
>> Le dim. 14 avr. 2024 à 18:50, John Lee via Leedslist 
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>> We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good
>>> enough to get us out of this league, then so be it!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-15 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
Take That got to number 1 - they’re still sh*te :-)

If Rutter and Summerville can rediscover the form that got them the awards, 
then they should absolutely play, but if Saturday was their new level, they can 
admire their awards sat on the bench for me? Of course we need to move the ball 
quickly for either to be at their most effective, so the Meslier-Ampadu-Rodon 
slow-waltz needs to end!





> On 15 Apr 2024, at 08:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Anyway I see that those players who “should be dropped” all won awards last 
> night.
> 
> Including Summerville, player of the season in Champs.
> 
> Still eh. What do they know.
> 
> I’d rather they were lining up for us, than against us.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2024, at 20:47, Damian WALSH  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that Farke has been brilliant and I hope that he long continues to
>> be so for Leeds United.
>> 
>> But I'm pretty sure that the dropped points these last matches are down to
>> him and not the players. They are good enough to go (& stay) up but they
>> need to be let off the leash because they're not good enough to play with
>> the metaphorical hand tied behind their back. The team has got to move up a
>> couple of gears and the handbrake has to come off (preferably the other way
>> round or there'll be a horrible smell of burning) - that's almost certainly
>> down to the manager ...
>> 
>> BTW I don't want to lose any of the players - I've even warmed to Firpo :)
>> 
>> Damian
>> 
>> 
>> Le dim. 14 avr. 2024 à 18:50, John Lee via Leedslist 
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>> We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good
>>> enough to get us out of this league, then so be it!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-15 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
Anyway I see that those players who “should be dropped” all won awards last 
night.

Including Summerville, player of the season in Champs.

Still eh. What do they know.

I’d rather they were lining up for us, than against us.

Nick

Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Apr 2024, at 20:47, Damian WALSH  wrote:
> 
> I think that Farke has been brilliant and I hope that he long continues to
> be so for Leeds United.
> 
> But I'm pretty sure that the dropped points these last matches are down to
> him and not the players. They are good enough to go (& stay) up but they
> need to be let off the leash because they're not good enough to play with
> the metaphorical hand tied behind their back. The team has got to move up a
> couple of gears and the handbrake has to come off (preferably the other way
> round or there'll be a horrible smell of burning) - that's almost certainly
> down to the manager ...
> 
> BTW I don't want to lose any of the players - I've even warmed to Firpo :)
> 
> Damian
> 
> 
> Le dim. 14 avr. 2024 à 18:50, John Lee via Leedslist 
> a écrit :
> 
>> We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good
>> enough to get us out of this league, then so be it!
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-14 Thread Damian WALSH
I think that Farke has been brilliant and I hope that he long continues to
be so for Leeds United.

But I'm pretty sure that the dropped points these last matches are down to
him and not the players. They are good enough to go (& stay) up but they
need to be let off the leash because they're not good enough to play with
the metaphorical hand tied behind their back. The team has got to move up a
couple of gears and the handbrake has to come off (preferably the other way
round or there'll be a horrible smell of burning) - that's almost certainly
down to the manager ...

BTW I don't want to lose any of the players - I've even warmed to Firpo :)

Damian


Le dim. 14 avr. 2024 à 18:50, John Lee via Leedslist 
a écrit :

> We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good
> enough to get us out of this league, then so be it!
>
>
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Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-14 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good enough to 
get us out of this league, then so be it!

I agree too that Farke will be in a more ‘stable’ position this year than last 
too. 

All that said, I still hope we somehow find a way to get promoted this season, 
and then the fun will really start??


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> On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:17, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> If we do not end up getting promoted and lose Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter,
> Firpo as may be the case it would be difficult, but not devastating IMO.
> 
> So we may end up having to sign 9 or 10 players to replace those being sold
> or not re-signing. That’s no more than many clubs will have to do anyway,
> particularly those getting relegated from the Premier League.  I would
> argue that we would be in a better place than when Farke took over and the
> 2nd year of parachute payment is not much of a drop off compared to the
> 3rd. So we should still be able to at least compete financially with the
> teams coming down.
> 
> Ok, so the players we would keep, would be a different mixture should we
> get promoted, but the cost of recruitment and quality required would be a
> lot higher, and we would probably need 8 or 9 players anyway.
> 
> Also Farke’s record at putting together a squad to get out of the
> championship is a lot better than his record at keeping clubs there.
> KOT
> 
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Re: [LU] Scared

2024-04-14 Thread Kevin Lewis via Leedslist
If we do not end up getting promoted and lose Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter,
Firpo as may be the case it would be difficult, but not devastating IMO.

So we may end up having to sign 9 or 10 players to replace those being sold
or not re-signing. That’s no more than many clubs will have to do anyway,
particularly those getting relegated from the Premier League.  I would
argue that we would be in a better place than when Farke took over and the
2nd year of parachute payment is not much of a drop off compared to the
3rd. So we should still be able to at least compete financially with the
teams coming down.

Ok, so the players we would keep, would be a different mixture should we
get promoted, but the cost of recruitment and quality required would be a
lot higher, and we would probably need 8 or 9 players anyway.

Also Farke’s record at putting together a squad to get out of the
championship is a lot better than his record at keeping clubs there.
KOT


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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-14 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
   Just reflecting a bit more:

   Piroe - was pish yesterday, anonymous. He is probably the best pure
   finisher we have…and brings nothing else.
   Summerville… given the ball standing still, with 3 men to beat, because
   half-decent coaches know if they stop him they go half way to stopping
   us… and this is the problem with the relentless passing across the back
   5, our best front guys need to hit the defence at speed, get them off
   balance, cause some chaos, but with this pass pass pass, they can set
   their defence, get organised and are much harder to break down. On
   paper we have by far the best attacking threat in the league (include
   Byram, Firpo and Roberts in that too)… what we should do for the last 3
   games is let them loose, get the ball to them and risk it. It all
   depends how tired (mentally and physically) they are, and also how
   scared we are as a team
   Bamford - someone described him as a “streaky” player… and we are in a
   downturn, whereas 2 months ago he was on a goal a game… I can see this
   being his last season with us. He moves defences around, but he needs
   service to score, he won’t create chances for himself.
   James. - A good full back who marks him properly, deals with him
   Rutter - who I do really like - is however currently in the running for
   the Paolo Wanchope award of no can mark him because no one, least of
   all himself, knows where he’s going or what he is about to do
   Gnonto - looked most likely yesterday, then got subbed (maybe he was
   struggling), but he is at least direct and willing to pop a shot
   Anthony - looks decent, but is behind the other 3 wingers
   Joseph - nice cameos…do we go with a raw 20 year at this stage?
   Joffy - does a lot of warming up…
   Also, taking Gruev off, left a huge hole that they walked through.
   Devon Lock, Devon Lock riding through the glen…
   Nick
   PS: it doesn’t take much for ‘the best supporters in the league’ to
   become a right bunch of moaning bastards.
   Sent from my iPad

 On 13 Apr 2024, at 18:16, Richard Walker 
 wrote:

    Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few
   weeks, when we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he
   can still make things happen. In fact, it must be difficult
   for him when our main tactic is to give the ball to him and ask him to
   beat 2 or 3 men consistently.
   I think if you’re looking for disappointing players you’ve got to look
   at Piroe, who offered nothing as a no 9 and I’d offload him now or
   Bamford (and I was a fan) who came on and did nothing other than look
   for a pen.
   Or Rutter, who looked like a world beater a month ago , but now looks
   like a non-league trier. I was actually starting to think that this guy
   was another Cantona but what’s happened? You can’t blame it on the
   operation because it started before then - he was awful against Town.
   Maybe it’s an injury ? Not sure but he’s not worth his place in the
   team at the moment.
   Very disappointing today, I couldn’t even stay out for drinks I was
   that pissed off. Farke’s substitutions were mystifying and totally
   messed with our rythmn. How can you take out 2 best players off -
   Gnonto and Gruev ? Were they both struggling? Didn’t look like it to
   me.
   You don’t get more Leeds than today.
   Can’t see us winning another game - I put that in to make me look like
   a cunt when we get promoted !
   Chateauneuf-du-Pape tonight - got to cheer yourself somehow on days
   like this. FFS !
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   On Saturday, April 13, 2024, 5:57 PM, John Lee via Leedslist
wrote:

   Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has
   demonstrated that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to
   have an inflated opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball
   expert, his passing is conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he
   gives the ball away consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is
   patchy. I find him really frustrating to watch and I am surprised
   players don’t give him a bollocking for not passing quicker. I hope he
   refinds the form of 2 months ago, because on todays form, he’s a waste
   of a shirt.
   I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?
   Other opinions are available :-)
   > On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen <[2]n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
   wrote:
   >
   > Why? He’s been outstanding.
   >
   > Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
   >
   > Nick
   >
   >> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran <[3]j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
   >>
   >> I think he lost himself today
   >>
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish <[4]edmorr...@gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >>>
   >>> UPDATE:
   >>>
   >>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
   >>>
   >>> Sent from my iPhone
   >>>
    On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish <[5]edmorr...@gmail.com>
   wrote:
   
    I was talking 

Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Jim Moran
Think Farke said Willy wasn’t 100%.

Agree on Gruev. 4-1-4-1 was our undoing in the end.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 18:16, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few
> weeks, when we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he can
> still make things happen. In fact, it must be difficult for him when our
> main tactic is to give the ball to him and ask him to beat 2 or 3 men
> consistently.I think if you’re looking for disappointing players you’ve got
> to look at Piroe, who offered nothing as a no 9 and I’d offload him now or
> Bamford (and I was a fan) who came on and did nothing other than look for a
> pen. Or Rutter, who looked like a world beater a month ago , but now looks
> like a non-league trier. I was actually starting to think that this guy was
> another Cantona but what’s happened? You can’t blame it on the operation
> because it started before then - he was awful against Town. Maybe it’s an
> injury ? Not sure but he’s not worth his place in the team at the
> moment.Very disappointing today, I couldn’t even stay out for drinks I was
> that pissed off. Farke’s substitutions were mystifying and totally messed
> with our rythmn. How can you take out 2 best players off - Gnonto and Gruev
> ? Were they both struggling? Didn’t look like it to me.You don’t get more
> Leeds than today. Can’t see us winning another game - I put that in to make
> me look like a cunt when we get promoted ! Chateauneuf-du-Pape tonight -
> got to cheer yourself somehow on days like this. FFS !
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024, 5:57 PM, John Lee via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has
> demonstrated that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have
> an inflated opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his
> passing is conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball
> away consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him
> really frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a
> bollocking for not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months
> ago, because on todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt.
>
> I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?
>
> Other opinions are available :-)
>
> > On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> >
> > Why? He’s been outstanding.
> >
> > Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think he lost himself today
> >>
>  On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> UPDATE:
> >>>
> >>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
>  I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them
> is
> >>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered
> every
> >>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
> >>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
> >>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> 
>  So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the
> breakup
> >>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first
> season,
> >>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose,
> financially -
> >>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but
> DF
> >>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player
> is
> >>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September
> that
> >>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
> >>> chasing the pack once again.
> 
>  I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens
> to
> >>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next
> year…
> 
>  Ed.
> 
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist
Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few weeks, when 
we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he can still make 
things happen. In fact, it must be difficult for him when our main tactic is to 
give the ball to him and ask him to beat 2 or 3 men consistently.I think if 
you’re looking for disappointing players you’ve got to look at Piroe, who 
offered nothing as a no 9 and I’d offload him now or Bamford (and I was a fan) 
who came on and did nothing other than look for a pen. Or Rutter, who looked 
like a world beater a month ago , but now looks like a non-league trier. I was 
actually starting to think that this guy was another Cantona but what’s 
happened? You can’t blame it on the operation because it started before then - 
he was awful against Town. Maybe it’s an injury ? Not sure but he’s not worth 
his place in the team at the moment.Very disappointing today, I couldn’t even 
stay out for drinks I was that pissed off. Farke’s substitutions were 
mystifying and totally messed with our rythmn. How can you take out 2 best 
players off - Gnonto and Gruev ? Were they both struggling? Didn’t look like it 
to me.You don’t get more Leeds than today. Can’t see us winning another game - 
I put that in to make me look like a cunt when we get promoted ! 
Chateauneuf-du-Pape tonight - got to cheer yourself somehow on days like this. 
FFS !


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On Saturday, April 13, 2024, 5:57 PM, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:

Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has demonstrated 
that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have an inflated 
opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his passing is 
conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball away 
consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him really 
frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a bollocking for 
not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months ago, because on 
todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt. 

I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?

Other opinions are available :-)

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Why? He’s been outstanding.
> 
> Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> I think he lost himself today
>> 
 On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UPDATE:
>>> 
>>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
 
 I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
 
 So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>>> chasing the pack once again.
 
 I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
 
 Ed.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has demonstrated 
that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have an inflated 
opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his passing is 
conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball away 
consistently, dives ALOT, and his shooting is patchy. I find him really 
frustrating to watch and I am surprised players don’t give him a bollocking for 
not passing quicker. I hope he refinds the form of 2 months ago, because on 
todays form, he’s a waste of a shirt. 

I think he’ll leave whatever happens this season?

Other opinions are available :-)

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 15:25, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Why? He’s been outstanding.
> 
> Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> I think he lost himself today
>> 
 On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UPDATE:
>>> 
>>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
 
 I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
 
 So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>>> chasing the pack once again.
 
 I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
 
 Ed.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Nick Allen
Why? He’s been outstanding.

Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.

Nick

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> I think he lost himself today
> 
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>> 
>> UPDATE:
>> 
>> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
>> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
>> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
>> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
>> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
>>> 
>>> So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
>> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
>> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
>> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
>> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
>> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
>> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
>> chasing the pack once again.
>>> 
>>> I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
>> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
>>> 
>>> Ed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Jim Moran
I think he lost himself today

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish  wrote:

> UPDATE:
>
> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> >
> > I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His
> response was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose
> McKenna (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> >
> > So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup
> of this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season,
> where we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially -
> players like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF
> would be starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is
> going to bed in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that
> the comings and goings caused last September, we could find ourselves
> chasing the pack once again.
> >
> > I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to
> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
> >
> > Ed.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Ed Morrish
UPDATE:

I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
> I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is 
> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every 
> week - they simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response 
> was that if they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna 
> (presumably to West Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).
> 
> So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of 
> this team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where 
> we kept the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players 
> like Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be 
> starting from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed 
> in, and if that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and 
> goings caused last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once 
> again.
> 
> I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
> Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…
> 
> Ed.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Simon McNally via Leedslist
I’ve got mates who support Ipswich and Leicester.
They’re both as terrified as we are.
The Ipswich one reckons they are out on their feet and the Leicester one thinks 
their heads have gone.
I guess the worry for us is the loss of our better players.
I suspect though that we won’t be under pressure to sell for less than market 
value like in the past.

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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2024 12:13:42 PM
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Subject: [LU] Scared?

I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


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[LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Ed Morrish
I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


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[LU] Scared?

2024-04-13 Thread Ed Morrish
I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve 
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they 
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if 
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna (presumably to West 
Han or Brighton, if vacancies arrive).

So what are we scared of, if we don’t go up? I think we see the breakup of this 
team, and that’s worries me. It’s not like Bielsa’s first season, where we kept 
the team we had. We WILL lose - have to lose, financially - players like 
Gnonto, Cree and Rutter. Maybe not Archie this year, but DF would be starting 
from scratch and you never really know how a player is going to bed in, and if 
that causes the same disruption in September that the comings and goings caused 
last September, we could find ourselves chasing the pack once again.

I just hope that we’ve done some work on the outcasts - what happens to 
Harrison, Aaronson, Rasmus et al - if we are still an EFL team next year…

Ed.


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