Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-03 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 315 corners this season
Nick
On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 08:09:15 AM EDT, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Michael,
I agree. We are paying the price for not investing in a reliable goal scorer 
(and also, weirdly, for not seeming to care about using corners to our 
advantage). 
Play-off defeat to Derby again, anyone?
Cheers!
Sean


-Original Message-
From: Michael Benjamin 
To: Richard Naef ; Ed Morrish 
; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

After todays result,  I am beginning to have doubts.
It looks like Brentford plus one.
We have looked very iffy since the break.  We are not showing the panache and 
belief I expect from a team driving for promotion. We can miss out yet again.
Sorry,  but once bitten twice shy.  We have been more than bitten once.  We've 
been savaged.

Michael

Dr. Michael Benjamin

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:01:49 AM
To: Ed Morrish ; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 

Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

John, read Social media if you want to find plenty of examples of negative over 
reaction, just as there was the opposite after we beat the 3rd team in the 
league, but I'm sure you already knew that.  Everyone is entitled to their 
opinions and I'm entitled to my opinion on their opinions. The fact is that 
it's entirely in our hands, we are top we have a top manager who is bringing 
the best out of a bunch of players many of whom were bang average 2 years ago 
or cast offs from Premier league (Harrison & White).  The moans on the list 
are, in my opinion, the very same as were made about our teams since I joined 
the list in the mid nineties

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:01:23 PM
To: Ed Morrish 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Richard - could you paste the link to the survey please, you know, the one 
you’ve just referenced re the attitude of Leeds fans? Or was it just a daft 
comment with you pretending to have a clue?

Yes, we have a reasonably easy run-in, but just drew with the league’s bottom 
team, so how easy will it be for a side struggling to score?

Rob H ‘best footballing side for over 40 years’ - what, better than when we won 
Div 1, or the season before, when the 4th place saw us play some staggering 
football, or better than the Kewell/O’Leary era and the Champions League?

Ben White is a great player, but his defending AT THAT MOMENT was poor!



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:38, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>
> We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
> are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
>>
>> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
>> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
>> defence.
>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>>>
>>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>>>
>>>

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-03 Thread Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) 
Sean wrote:-


I agree. We are paying the price for not investing in a reliable goal scorer 
(and also, weirdly, for not seeming to care about using corners to our 
advantage).

Play-off defeat to Derby again, anyone?

Cheers!

Sean

--

Leeds fans more than most can be a pretty negative bunch, and whilst we are in 
a slightly better position than last year, there are also many similarities.

It is a good job that football is not an exact science, otherwise it could be 
argued that making exactly the same mistakes as last year, will produce the 
same result.

Such a small squad of senior players means an embarrassing lack of options to 
change the game on the bench, with no cover for injuries or opportunity to rest 
players.

Even with 9 players on the bench, the only striker alternative to Bamford is 
also the only option at 10, when Hernandez is being nursed back in.

The long term injury to Forshaw left us with no alternative/cover for Phillips. 
 I would regard Shackleton as an alternative to Klich.

No proper cover at Centre Back, Luckily Ayling, Berardi and Phillips have just 
about got away with it most of the time when called on.

Another terrible winter transfer window, where we bolstered the ranks with a 12 
year kid, and a bloke who never played, but we still might have to pay £18M for.

A striker who is arguably the worst player in the team.

Anyone could be excused for doubting we can see it through.  Or at least 
fearing the worst.
But looking at it positively Derby could be the day when we clinch promotion 
and deny them & Rooney a place in the play-offs.  That would be sweet 

KOT.


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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-02 Thread seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
Michael,
I agree. We are paying the price for not investing in a reliable goal scorer 
(and also, weirdly, for not seeming to care about using corners to our 
advantage). 
Play-off defeat to Derby again, anyone?
Cheers!
Sean


-Original Message-
From: Michael Benjamin 
To: Richard Naef ; Ed Morrish 
; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

After todays result,  I am beginning to have doubts.
It looks like Brentford plus one.
We have looked very iffy since the break.  We are not showing the panache and 
belief I expect from a team driving for promotion. We can miss out yet again.
Sorry,  but once bitten twice shy.  We have been more than bitten once.  We've 
been savaged.

Michael

Dr. Michael Benjamin

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:01:49 AM
To: Ed Morrish ; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 

Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

John, read Social media if you want to find plenty of examples of negative over 
reaction, just as there was the opposite after we beat the 3rd team in the 
league, but I'm sure you already knew that.  Everyone is entitled to their 
opinions and I'm entitled to my opinion on their opinions. The fact is that 
it's entirely in our hands, we are top we have a top manager who is bringing 
the best out of a bunch of players many of whom were bang average 2 years ago 
or cast offs from Premier league (Harrison & White).  The moans on the list 
are, in my opinion, the very same as were made about our teams since I joined 
the list in the mid nineties

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:01:23 PM
To: Ed Morrish 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Richard - could you paste the link to the survey please, you know, the one 
you’ve just referenced re the attitude of Leeds fans? Or was it just a daft 
comment with you pretending to have a clue?

Yes, we have a reasonably easy run-in, but just drew with the league’s bottom 
team, so how easy will it be for a side struggling to score?

Rob H ‘best footballing side for over 40 years’ - what, better than when we won 
Div 1, or the season before, when the 4th place saw us play some staggering 
football, or better than the Kewell/O’Leary era and the Champions League?

Ben White is a great player, but his defending AT THAT MOMENT was poor!



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:38, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>
> We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
> are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
>>
>> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
>> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
>> defence.
>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>>>
>>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know why you both

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Michael Benjamin 
After todays result,  I am beginning to have doubts.
It looks like Brentford plus one.
We have looked very iffy since the break.  We are not showing the panache and 
belief I expect from a team driving for promotion. We can miss out yet again.
Sorry,  but once bitten twice shy.  We have been more than bitten once.  We've 
been savaged.

Michael

Dr. Michael Benjamin

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:01:49 AM
To: Ed Morrish ; bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk 

Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

John, read Social media if you want to find plenty of examples of negative over 
reaction, just as there was the opposite after we beat the 3rd team in the 
league, but I'm sure you already knew that.  Everyone is entitled to their 
opinions and I'm entitled to my opinion on their opinions. The fact is that 
it's entirely in our hands, we are top we have a top manager who is bringing 
the best out of a bunch of players many of whom were bang average 2 years ago 
or cast offs from Premier league (Harrison & White).  The moans on the list 
are, in my opinion, the very same as were made about our teams since I joined 
the list in the mid nineties

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:01:23 PM
To: Ed Morrish 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Richard - could you paste the link to the survey please, you know, the one 
you’ve just referenced re the attitude of Leeds fans? Or was it just a daft 
comment with you pretending to have a clue?

Yes, we have a reasonably easy run-in, but just drew with the league’s bottom 
team, so how easy will it be for a side struggling to score?

Rob H ‘best footballing side for over 40 years’ - what, better than when we won 
Div 1, or the season before, when the 4th place saw us play some staggering 
football, or better than the Kewell/O’Leary era and the Champions League?

Ben White is a great player, but his defending AT THAT MOMENT was poor!



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:38, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>
> We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
> are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
>>
>> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
>> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
>> defence.
>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>>>
>>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>>>>
>>>> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
>>>> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
>>>> bigoted. Very clever.
>>>>
>>>> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-for

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Richard Naef 
I wasn't pointing you out in particular, but what I see as the prevailing 
negative attitude of  leeds fans in general. I'm entitled to my opinion as much 
as you are.

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:02:36 PM
To: Robert Heath ; Richard Naef 

Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Jesus so what's the point of having a point of view eh? Fuck me if I can't even 
comment on the weaknesses some of the players have. Doesn't mean they are shit, 
doesn't mean Leeds are shit, doesn't mean Bielsa doesn't know what he is doing 
but does mean can be disappointed with certain aspects of our play.

Nick

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 01:17:58 PM EDT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:


Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and 
won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come right 
back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is an idiot, 
except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved wrong, so the 
slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you so's.  Some people 
will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough childhood, or just enjoy 
being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't employed in some 
professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real world, we are top, 
points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run in and are watching the 
best football we've had for half a generation.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf 
Of Robert Heath
Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.

Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local lad 
playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40 years. 
And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH since 
Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM 
mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>
> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>
> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
> bigoted. Very clever.
>
> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his
> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might
> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve McLaren!
>
>
>
> > On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath 
> > mailto:heathpalai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles
> > of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one
> > side to
> the
> > other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and
> > back
> over
> > and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways.
> > Phillips
> is
> > the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> > "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
> love
> > to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That
> > remark
> by
> > McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest
> > order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so
> > many jobs
> but
> > has ultimately failed every time.
> >
> > 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE
> > finish
> by
> > their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was
> > that he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White
> > therefore had no clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he
> > remained sideon ready
> to
> > respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> > incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last
> > year, that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill.
> > Has he ever done anything since? That kid who scored last
> > night.he will
> retire
> > in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the
> > highlight of his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at
> > Elland Road. I
> mean
> > jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody
> > Town.) ___
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Richard Naef 
John, read Social media if you want to find plenty of examples of negative over 
reaction, just as there was the opposite after we beat the 3rd team in the 
league, but I'm sure you already knew that.  Everyone is entitled to their 
opinions and I'm entitled to my opinion on their opinions. The fact is that 
it's entirely in our hands, we are top we have a top manager who is bringing 
the best out of a bunch of players many of whom were bang average 2 years ago 
or cast offs from Premier league (Harrison & White).  The moans on the list 
are, in my opinion, the very same as were made about our teams since I joined 
the list in the mid nineties

Sent from my Mobile.


From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:01:23 PM
To: Ed Morrish 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Richard - could you paste the link to the survey please, you know, the one 
you’ve just referenced re the attitude of Leeds fans? Or was it just a daft 
comment with you pretending to have a clue?

Yes, we have a reasonably easy run-in, but just drew with the league’s bottom 
team, so how easy will it be for a side struggling to score?

Rob H ‘best footballing side for over 40 years’ - what, better than when we won 
Div 1, or the season before, when the 4th place saw us play some staggering 
football, or better than the Kewell/O’Leary era and the Champions League?

Ben White is a great player, but his defending AT THAT MOMENT was poor!



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:38, Ed Morrish  wrote:
>
> We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
> are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
>>
>> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
>> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
>> defence.
>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>>>
>>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>>>>
>>>> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
>>>> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
>>>> bigoted. Very clever.
>>>>
>>>> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his
>>>> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might
>>>> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve
>>> McLaren!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles
>>>>> of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one
>>>>> side to
>>>> the
>>>>> other quickly and of

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 Jesus so what's the point of having a point of view eh? Fuck me if I can't 
even comment on the weaknesses some of the players have. Doesn't mean they are 
shit, doesn't mean Leeds are shit, doesn't mean Bielsa doesn't know what he is 
doing but does mean can be disappointed with certain aspects of our play.
Nick
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 01:17:58 PM EDT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and 
won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come right 
back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is an idiot, 
except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved wrong, so the 
slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you so's.  Some people 
will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough childhood, or just enjoy 
being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't employed in some 
professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real world, we are top, 
points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run in and are watching the 
best football we've had for half a generation.  

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.

Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local lad 
playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40 years. 
And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH since 
Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>
> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior 
> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>
> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly 
> bigoted. Very clever.
>
> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his 
> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might 
> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve McLaren!
>
>
>
> > On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles 
> > of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one 
> > side to
> the
> > other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and 
> > back
> over
> > and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways. 
> > Phillips
> is
> > the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> > "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
> love
> > to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That 
> > remark
> by
> > McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest 
> > order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so 
> > many jobs
> but
> > has ultimately failed every time.
> >
> > 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE 
> > finish
> by
> > their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was 
> > that he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White 
> > therefore had no clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he 
> > remained sideon ready
> to
> > respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> > incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last 
> > year, that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill. 
> > Has he ever done anything since? That kid who scored last 
> > night.he will
> retire
> > in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the 
> > highlight of his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at 
> > Elland Road. I
> mean
> > jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody 
> > Town.) ___
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread John Lee via Leedslist 
Richard - could you paste the link to the survey please, you know, the one 
you’ve just referenced re the attitude of Leeds fans? Or was it just a daft 
comment with you pretending to have a clue?

Yes, we have a reasonably easy run-in, but just drew with the league’s bottom 
team, so how easy will it be for a side struggling to score? 

Rob H ‘best footballing side for over 40 years’ - what, better than when we won 
Div 1, or the season before, when the 4th place saw us play some staggering 
football, or better than the Kewell/O’Leary era and the Champions League? 

Ben White is a great player, but his defending AT THAT MOMENT was poor! 



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:38, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
> We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
> are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
>> 
>> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
>> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
>> defence.
>> 
>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: Leeds List 
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>>> 
>>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>>>> 
>>>> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
>>>> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
>>>> bigoted. Very clever.
>>>> 
>>>> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his
>>>> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might
>>>> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve
>>> McLaren!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles
>>>>> of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one
>>>>> side to
>>>> the
>>>>> other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and
>>>>> back
>>>> over
>>>>> and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways.
>>>>> Phillips
>>>> is
>>>>> the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
>>>>> "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
>>>> love
>>>>> to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That
>>>>> remark
>>>> by
>>>>> McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest
>>>>> order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so
>>>>> many jobs
>>>> but
>>>>> has ultimately failed every

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Ed Morrish 
We play best when there’s space in front of us. Teams like Luton and Cardiff 
are happy to let us have the ball, sit back, and wait for us to fuck it up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jul 2020, at 18:28, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.
> 
> The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
> game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
> defence.
> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
>> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
>> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
>> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
>> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
>> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
>> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
>> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
>> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
>> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
>> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
>> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
>> Cc: Leeds List 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>> 
>> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>> 
>> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
>> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
>> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
>> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>>> 
>>> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
>>> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>>> 
>>> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
>>> bigoted. Very clever.
>>> 
>>> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his
>>> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might
>>> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve
>> McLaren!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles
>>>> of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one
>>>> side to
>>> the
>>>> other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and
>>>> back
>>> over
>>>> and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways.
>>>> Phillips
>>> is
>>>> the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
>>>> "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
>>> love
>>>> to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That
>>>> remark
>>> by
>>>> McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest
>>>> order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so
>>>> many jobs
>>> but
>>>> has ultimately failed every time.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE
>>>> finish
>>> by
>>>> their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was
>>>> that he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White
>>>> therefore had no clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he
>>>> remained sideon ready
>>> to
>>>> respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
>>>> incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last
>>>> year, that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill.
>>>> Has he ever done anything since? That kid who scored last
>>>> night.he will
>>> retire
>>>> in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the
>>>> highlight of his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at
>>>> Elland Road. I
>&g

Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Jim Moran 
FWIW I think we’d do better in the top flight with this team.

The other observation was because of Cooper’s injury we played most of the
game with 1 centre half, so Phillips was in essence playing central
defence.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:17, Richard Naef 
wrote:

> Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and
> won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come
> right back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is
> an idiot, except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved
> wrong, so the slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you
> so's.  Some people will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough
> childhood, or just enjoy being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't
> employed in some professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real
> world, we are top, points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run
> in and are watching the best football we've had for half a generation.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
> Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: Leeds List 
> Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..
>
> Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.
>
> Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local
> lad playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
> years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
> since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:
>
> > I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
> >
> > I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
> > footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
> >
> > I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
> > bigoted. Very clever.
> >
> > ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his
> > own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might
> > shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve
> McLaren!
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
> > >
> > > 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles
> > > of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one
> > > side to
> > the
> > > other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and
> > > back
> > over
> > > and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways.
> > > Phillips
> > is
> > > the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> > > "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
> > love
> > > to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That
> > > remark
> > by
> > > McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest
> > > order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so
> > > many jobs
> > but
> > > has ultimately failed every time.
> > >
> > > 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE
> > > finish
> > by
> > > their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was
> > > that he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White
> > > therefore had no clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he
> > > remained sideon ready
> > to
> > > respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> > > incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last
> > > year, that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill.
> > > Has he ever done anything since? That kid who scored last
> > > night.he will
> > retire
> > > in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the
> > > highlight of his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at
> > > Elland Road. I
> > mean
> > > jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody
> > > Town.) ___
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Richard Naef 
Don't bother Rob, the prevailing attitude of Leeds fans is we are shit and 
won't go up, and if we do we'll be shit in the Premier League and come right 
back down again.  It makes me laugh when people say that Mclaren is an idiot, 
except when he agrees with them.  They can't stand being proved wrong, so the 
slightest mistake produces reams and reams of I told you so's.  Some people 
will never be happy, I don't know if they had a tough childhood, or just enjoy 
being miserable.  I wonder why some of them aren't employed in some 
professional capacity in Football.  Meanwhile in the real world, we are top, 
points ahead of other teams, got a reasonably easy run in and are watching the 
best football we've had for half a generation.  

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
Sent: 01 July 2020 16:18
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..

Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.

Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local lad 
playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40 years. 
And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH since 
Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>
> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior 
> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>
> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly 
> bigoted. Very clever.
>
> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his 
> own, a rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might 
> shoot. What do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve McLaren!
>
>
>
> > On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles 
> > of Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one 
> > side to
> the
> > other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and 
> > back
> over
> > and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways. 
> > Phillips
> is
> > the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> > "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
> love
> > to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That 
> > remark
> by
> > McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest 
> > order, and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so 
> > many jobs
> but
> > has ultimately failed every time.
> >
> > 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE 
> > finish
> by
> > their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was 
> > that he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White 
> > therefore had no clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he 
> > remained sideon ready
> to
> > respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> > incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last 
> > year, that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill. 
> > Has he ever done anything since? That kid who scored last 
> > night.he will
> retire
> > in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the 
> > highlight of his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at 
> > Elland Road. I
> mean
> > jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody 
> > Town.) ___
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 That's lovely. 
However, Rio was the 4th best central defender at the club when he played for 
Leeds. 
On Wednesday, 1 July 2020, 16:18:16 BST, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.

Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local lad
playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.




  
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Robert Heath 
Well that's me put in my place. Thanks for that.

Meanwhile, I am going to carry on LOVING watching a young, humble local lad
playing the pivot in the best footballing side we have had for over 40
years. And I'm also going to enjoy watching probably the best English CH
since Ferdinand performing magnificently in a Leeds shirt.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:16 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.
>
> I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior
> footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)
>
> I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly
> bigoted. Very clever.
>
> ‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his own, a
> rare counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might shoot. What
> do you think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve McLaren!
>
>
>
> > On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles of
> > Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one side to
> the
> > other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and back
> over
> > and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways. Phillips
> is
> > the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> > "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans"
> love
> > to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That remark
> by
> > McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest order,
> > and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so many jobs
> but
> > has ultimately failed every time.
> >
> > 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE finish
> by
> > their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was that
> > he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White therefore had no
> > clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he remained sideon ready
> to
> > respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> > incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last year,
> > that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill. Has he ever
> > done anything since? That kid who scored last night.he will
> retire
> > in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the highlight of
> > his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at Elland Road. I
> mean
> > jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody Town.)
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread John Lee via Leedslist 
I don’t know why you bother either - on that we can agree.

I love the way you pass off patronising people as being some superior 
footballing power. Best chuckle I’ve had today ;-)

I love your stereotyping English fans too - you sound ever so slightly bigoted. 
Very clever.

‘White had no clue he was about to shoot’ - centre-forward, on his own, a rare 
counter attack, yet you argue there was no clue he might shoot. What do you 
think he was likely to do? Fuck me, you are Steve McLaren!



> On 1 Jul 2020, at 12:21, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles of
> Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one side to the
> other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and back over
> and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways. Phillips is
> the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
> "Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans" love
> to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That remark by
> McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest order,
> and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so many jobs but
> has ultimately failed every time.
> 
> 2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE finish by
> their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was that
> he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White therefore had no
> clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he remained sideon ready to
> respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
> incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last year,
> that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill. Has he ever
> done anything since? That kid who scored last night.he will retire
> in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the highlight of
> his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at Elland Road. I mean
> jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody Town.)
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Re: [LU] I don't know why I bother, but..........

2020-07-01 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 Good points but ultimately wrong. 
1. You used the word yourself - 'quickly'. That adjective could never be 
applied to our Kalvin. Passing the ball sideways isn't a crime but sideways and 
backwards 90% of the time as a midfielder aint good. 
2. It was a good finish, but basic defending would have prevented that shot. 


On Wednesday, 1 July 2020, 12:21:32 BST, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 1. Phillips. Have none of you got any idea of the basic principles of
Bielsa's method of play? One of them is to switch play from one side to the
other quickly and often (to keep the defenders moving across and back over
and over.) To do this, somebody has to pass the ball sideways. Phillips is
the player usually tasked with doing this, and he does it really well.
"Passing the ball sideways" is the classic crime which English "fans" love
to identify and make themselves sound as if they are clever. That remark by
McLaren, which was praised on here, was fuckwittery of the highest order,
and demonstrated right there why he has been appointed to so many jobs but
has ultimately failed every time.

2. White. The point about that goal was that it was an INCREDIBLE finish by
their lad. What all you armchair geniuses did not seem to notice was that
he produced that shot with absolutely no backlift. White therefore had no
clue that he was about to shoot, which was why he remained sideon ready to
respond to a further dribble. (Why do players have to produce these
incredible- I mean, literally, incredible - things against us? Last year,
that lad from Wigan was unplayable with his speed and skill. Has he ever
done anything since? That kid who scored last night.he will retire
in 10 years after kicking around the lower leagues, and the highlight of
his career will have been an amazing goal he scored at Elland Road. I mean
jeez, he couldn't even get into the starting XI of Lutin bloody Town.)
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