Re: PEN TURNING

2022-01-04 Thread SteveEJ
  Nice job Tim. When I gift pens I have turned I try to match the wood with 
the reason for the gift and/or the person I give it to. When I was getting 
married some 22 years ago the pen I turned with oak and gave to my to be 
Father-in-Law. The reason was he loved it and it showed strength. Once for 
our church fund raiser I turned about 100 pens with bloodwood that 
obviously indicated the blood of Christ. 

  I finally am getting my shop built with some organizing remaining. The 
Legacy 900 CNC and my Revo will be put to work then. 

Long time reader but post very little. I hope the group doesn't mind.

Thanks,

Steve Jacobs
Brighton, TN, USA

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ok guys I am absolutely hooked. I turned my first pen today. 
>
> Pen kit: Slim Line from WoodCraft
> lathe used PM 4224 B
> Wood used Granadillo
> Tools to turn Easy Wood Tools Rougher and finisher
> Mandrel used White Side Pen mandrel and Barrel Trimming set.
> Sanded to 400 grit the buffed up to white series brillo style pad
> Finish 8-10 coats of Craft Supplies USA's CA glue w/accelerator (thin)
> sand between coats horizontally
> polished with:  Dr. Kirk's Micro Magic Polishing Wax
> polished again with: Dr. Kirk's Scratch FREEE Woodturners Polishing Wax
>
> Proud owner of this beauty: "My Wife" 
>
> let me know what you think. I'm hooked and will never look back. 
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Tim J. Ziegler 
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>

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Re: legacy manual

2014-01-15 Thread SteveEJ
I would love a copy of both. I have the Revo and a 900CNC that I wish was a 
manual machine.

Could you email me a copy? Let me know if there are any fees or anything.

s.jacobs0828 at gmail  or  steveej0828 at yahoo

Thanks!

Steve

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:47:45 AM UTC-6, aussiman wrote:

 Ps if any revo owners are interested I have the revo manual as well in pfd

  Bill


 On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 8:44:09 PM UTC+11, legacy woodworking wrote:

 I would like a copy of it, I have been thinking about scanning mine for 
 about a year now. 

 Jeff Becker 


  Bill Bulkeley bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote: 
  Did I read here that someone was looking for a legacy manual in pfd 
 format I 
  have this one (see the pic) I found in my computer. 
  
  But it is 16 megs in size so I can't post it I think it's way too big . 
 but 
  it might email I'm not sure. 
  
  Bill 
  

  
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Re: legacy manual

2014-01-15 Thread SteveEJ
That's the problem. I bought it from Legacy as a 900 Standard CNC that 
someone had traded in. I would have to do a complete swap out or get the 
gears, etc. to make it work. I got really frustrated with Mach3 and all of 
the steps needed to make it line up correctly, etc. I have driven several 
bits thru a bird thinking it would be OK before hitting Cycle Start.. I 
also have a Carvewright and it carves extremely well for a lot of things.

Still have the Revo and it would be nice to have both manuals (900 non-cnc 
and Revo).

Maybe when I retire again I will have time to sort the 900 CNC/Mach3 stuff 
out.

Thanks,

Steve

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:26:51 AM UTC-6, legacy woodworking wrote:

 Steve, if you converted the 900 to cnc and kept theitems removed you could 
 convert it back. 


  SteveEJ s.jaco...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  I would love a copy of both. I have the Revo and a 900CNC that I wish 
 was a 
  manual machine. 
  
  Could you email me a copy? Let me know if there are any fees or 
 anything. 
  
  s.jacobs0828 at gmail  or  steveej0828 at yahoo 
  
  Thanks! 
  
  Steve 
  
  On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:47:45 AM UTC-6, aussiman wrote: 
   
   Ps if any revo owners are interested I have the revo manual as well in 
 pfd 
   
Bill 
   
   
   On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 8:44:09 PM UTC+11, legacy woodworking 
 wrote: 
   
   I would like a copy of it, I have been thinking about scanning mine 
 for 
   about a year now. 
   
   Jeff Becker 
   
   
    Bill Bulkeley bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote: 
Did I read here that someone was looking for a legacy manual in pfd 
   format I 
have this one (see the pic) I found in my computer. 

But it is 16 megs in size so I can't post it I think it's way too 
 big . 
   but 
it might email I'm not sure. 

Bill 

  

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Re: Legacy 900 CNC in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois asking $3500

2014-01-15 Thread SteveEJ
Looks like mine except that mine has the mobility kit. He does not show a 
PC with a Parallel port and Mach3. That's more money to add.

You are right about the parts needed to convert it back to a manual machine.

Steve

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:48:25 PM UTC-6, Curtis wrote:

  
 Well that is pretty down right impressive. and I like the Price as well.
 Thank for letting us know.
 Have a good night.
 C.A.G.

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 *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 8:41 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Legacy 900 CNC in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois asking $3500

 I agree. - However, I'd LOVE to acquire EVERYTHING he/she has on that 
 sheet of plywood.   
 The rest - ya'll can have.  LoL 
 Mac 
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 Sent: Jan 15, 2014 2:45 PM 
 To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: Legacy 900 CNC in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois asking $3500 

 Hello,

 I guess we have talked up another 900 CNC.  There's one for sale in 
 Illinois.  One of the interesting things is that these native 900 CNC's 
 have few if any of the accessories as well as no easy way to convert them 
 back to a manual  machine without buying scarce parts.  Because they are so 
 few, there are few people for support.

 In any event, here's the link:

 http://chambana.craigslist.org/tls/4281445760.html

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Re: For Sale: 900/Standard CNC

2012-08-03 Thread SteveEJ
I decided to keep it and upgrade it with home  limit switches, router 
on/off control a z zero pad. make it a fully functional system removing the 
limitations that came with it.

Steve

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:01:49 PM UTC-5, john wrote:

 Legacy stopped selling the Std CNC package not because the motors were too 
 small, it was because the 900/1200 could not take the tolerances that we 
 wanted to see in the CNC.  Most of these systems have been retrofitted into 
 a Arty frame as this one could.


 On Sunday, July 15, 2012, SteveEJ wrote:

 Denis,
   I am not sure about Legacy stopping selling of these motors. I have 
 never had an issue with them on this machine and they have never failed me.

   The stepper on the Z axis is the only one with a label. It is a 
 60HS66DF 1B Motor. The others (X, Y and A) have the same housing but a 
 longer shaft. Pictures coming tonight or tomorrow to show the difference. 
 Not sure about the tork. The model number should help.

   I am not sure why they stopped the Standard CNC kit and the Performance 
 CNC Kit. Probably a decision based on what they knew they were coming out 
 with and economics.

 Steve

 On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:08:59 PM UTC-5, denis wrote:

 Hello Steve
 One or two questions on the Legacy cnc.
 Legacy stop selling the stepper motors for ornamental-mill. (If I remember 
 it was the mill was not strong for that kind of work.)
 I wish I had one or two  response from a owner.
 (The problem is it justified under you so that Legacy has stopped the 
 sale of CNC kit.
 and my second question is how much holding tork (oz. in) on the stepper 
 motor. 311 oz or more.

 Thanks
 Denis


 Le dimanche 15 juillet 2012 10:05:00 UTC-4, SteveEJ a écrit :

 Well, It is time. I have needs and have to sell my 900/Standard CNC. 
 The only thing I did to the setup from Legacy is to add inline fuses to 
 each motor. I just felt they needed to be there to help protect the power 
 supply. All work and it is on a factory stand with wheels. It comes with a 
 Porter Cable 7518 Variable Speed Production Router, Tim's 900 Bed 
 Adjustment add on and other standard items that come from Legacy. I will 
 have some pictures available as soon as I can pull it out and blow off the 
 dust. You will need your own Mach3 interface/control software.

 I paid $6000.00 for the machine minus the Router and eliminator chuck.

 Asking $3500.00

 No bits come with this machine as I can use them with my Revo.

 Email: steveej0...@yahoo.com
 Cell: (901) 212-2488

 Thanks,

 SteveEJ

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For Sale: 900/Standard CNC

2012-07-15 Thread SteveEJ
Well, It is time. I have needs and have to sell my 900/Standard CNC. The 
only thing I did to the setup from Legacy is to add inline fuses to each 
motor. I just felt they needed to be there to help protect the power 
supply. All work and it is on a factory stand with wheels. It comes with a 
Porter Cable 7518 Variable Speed Production Router, Tim's 900 Bed 
Adjustment add on and other standard items that come from Legacy. I will 
have some pictures available as soon as I can pull it out and blow off the 
dust. You will need your own Mach3 interface/control software.

I paid $6000.00 for the machine minus the Router and eliminator chuck.

Asking $3500.00

No bits come with this machine as I can use them with my Revo.

Email: steveej0...@yahoo.com
Cell: (901) 212-2488

Thanks,

SteveEJ

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Re: For Sale: 900/Standard CNC

2012-07-15 Thread SteveEJ
Tim,
  Combination of Economy, lack of use and the Revo can turn out what little 
I would need the 4th axis for.

  The fuses are there to protect the electronics from the steppers. They 
can be easily bypassed if needed. I didn't want a motor shorting and taking 
the electronics out, Knowing what little I know about electronics I don't 
understand why that would be a bad thing.

Steve 

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:09:12 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

  Did you step up to a newer cnc machine or decide the revo fits your 
 needs better?  
  
 You need to remove those fuses from the motors.  The stepper control is 
 protecting the power supply.  If you added a fuse to each stepper 
 controller that's ok, but that is not how I'm reading your message.
  
 -Tim
  
  
  

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com 
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:05 AM
 *Subject:* For Sale: 900/Standard CNC

 Well, It is time. I have needs and have to sell my 900/Standard CNC. The 
 only thing I did to the setup from Legacy is to add inline fuses to each 
 motor. I just felt they needed to be there to help protect the power 
 supply. All work and it is on a factory stand with wheels. It comes with a 
 Porter Cable 7518 Variable Speed Production Router, Tim's 900 Bed 
 Adjustment add on and other standard items that come from Legacy. I will 
 have some pictures available as soon as I can pull it out and blow off the 
 dust. You will need your own Mach3 interface/control software.

 I paid $6000.00 for the machine minus the Router and eliminator chuck.

 Asking $3500.00

 No bits come with this machine as I can use them with my Revo.

 Email: steveej0...@yahoo.com
 Cell: (901) 212-2488

 Thanks,

 SteveEJ

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Re: For Sale: 900/Standard CNC

2012-07-15 Thread SteveEJ
Denis,
  I am not sure about Legacy stopping selling of these motors. I have never 
had an issue with them on this machine and they have never failed me.

  The stepper on the Z axis is the only one with a label. It is a 60HS66DF 
1B Motor. The others (X, Y and A) have the same housing but a longer shaft. 
Pictures coming tonight or tomorrow to show the difference. Not sure about 
the tork. The model number should help.

  I am not sure why they stopped the Standard CNC kit and the Performance 
CNC Kit. Probably a decision based on what they knew they were coming out 
with and economics.

Steve

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:08:59 PM UTC-5, denis wrote:

 Hello Steve
 One or two questions on the Legacy cnc.
 Legacy stop selling the stepper motors for ornamental-mill. (If I remember 
 it was the mill was not strong for that kind of work.)
 I wish I had one or two  response from a owner.
 (The problem is it justified under you so that Legacy has stopped the 
 sale of CNC kit.
 and my second question is how much holding tork (oz. in) on the stepper 
 motor. 311 oz or more.

 Thanks
 Denis


 Le dimanche 15 juillet 2012 10:05:00 UTC-4, SteveEJ a écrit :

 Well, It is time. I have needs and have to sell my 900/Standard CNC. The 
 only thing I did to the setup from Legacy is to add inline fuses to each 
 motor. I just felt they needed to be there to help protect the power 
 supply. All work and it is on a factory stand with wheels. It comes with a 
 Porter Cable 7518 Variable Speed Production Router, Tim's 900 Bed 
 Adjustment add on and other standard items that come from Legacy. I will 
 have some pictures available as soon as I can pull it out and blow off the 
 dust. You will need your own Mach3 interface/control software.

 I paid $6000.00 for the machine minus the Router and eliminator chuck.

 Asking $3500.00

 No bits come with this machine as I can use them with my Revo.

 Email: steveej0...@yahoo.com
 Cell: (901) 212-2488

 Thanks,

 SteveEJ



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Re: Rotary Table Index System

2012-03-05 Thread SteveEJ

My vote:  looking from above, 9 o'clock to the table crank and mounted
on the side OR 6 o'clock to the crank and mounted from below.. Both
would work on my Revo.

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: nothing much

2012-03-02 Thread SteveEJ
If you look at the two spindles you will see slight differences
between the two. I don't think it is a true copy.

A copy system would be cool though!

Steve

On Mar 2, 7:37 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 OK I just thought it was all in one place and was easier to find than on the
 legacy sight  I really liked the cnc bandsaw
 Bill







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 From: Tim artmarb...@comcast.net
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:14 PM
 Subject: Re: nothing much

 That is an interesting idea.  You can adjust your z-axis manually and
 make your cuts to get a similar profile.  Good tip.

 I removed your other post with the link to the Russian portal site.
 All of the content is available from either Legacy directly or on
 YouTube.

 On Mar 2, 4:34 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  found this pic while surfing today looks like copy turning from the side
  I thought I would post it, I haven't seen it done with a template or
  pattern on the inside of the rails

  Bill

  ornamental mill.jpg
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Re: Legacy Shadow

2012-02-19 Thread SteveEJ
Birmingham Alabama if not too far from me. I am interested in seeing
the shadow as well. What is it's size, what features, what was the
final cost?

Thanks,

Steve

On Feb 19, 7:13 am, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Hello Alan.
 Welcome to the group.
 I too am looking forward to hearing, all about your shadow adventures. (It
 sounds like a spy mystery doesn't it?) ;-)

 Where do you live? Birmingham is a name quite often used in the States,
 There is a Birmingham Michigan, not but a few miles from my home. ;-)
 Can you tell us a little bit more about your self? What kind of wood
 projects you like to make. how big is your shop?... Stuff like that.
 You are the first person that I have talked to that own a Shadow. It looks
 like you are a trend setter, as well as a ground breaker on this topic.
 I cant wait to hear all about it.
 Thanks for letting us know.
 Have a great day.
 C.A.G.







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 From: Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:07 AM
 Subject: Re: Legacy Shadow

  welcome Griff its good to have a shadow owner in the group I look forward
  to photos of the machine and work you produce from it

  Bill

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  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:59 AM
  Subject: Legacy Shadow

  Hi
  I am new to this group. I am a 68 year old joiner from north Birmingham.
  I recently took delivery of the new  legacy shadow.It functions much the
  same as the other machines but is of all steel construction and very
  substantial. I haven't had much time to do anymore than play on it yet .
  I will post some photos in the near future with a fuller description.

  Best regards

  Griff

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Re: Bed adjustment

2012-02-18 Thread SteveEJ
I purchased a set of these for my 900/CNC and they are great! I do not
have any dust collection features on it so I am not sure how it would
work with it.

Great product Tim!

On Feb 17, 10:52 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 This post is for the newer members of the group.  I created these sets of 
 brackets as my first attempt to make bed leveling faster and more accurate on 
 the model 900.  I later integrated them into the extended leg set.  You can 
 read more about it here.

 http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/b...

 -Tim

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Re: Package arrived

2012-02-10 Thread SteveEJ
These pictures are of the 900 Table I bought from Begat. Mounting it
as shown does allow a fully extended (Y axis) router to go just
slightly past the center of the table. The brackets shown are for
flatware milling so it would be very easy to scribe and drill the
table to mount into it. I would rather not cut anything and it looks
like it will work OK.

Steve

On Feb 10, 4:45 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Steve are those pictures the new table or pictures of the Revo Table you want 
 to make?

 The Goal is to get  your REVO to reach  into the center of the  turn table.
 How far are you off? And is the brackets to hold the table onto the REVO the 
 problem or is it the size of the table that is the main problem?
 I am sorry But I have not ever seen the REVO to fully understand the size 
 difference,Photo's can be deceiving.

 C.A.G.







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   Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:44 PM
   Subject: RE: Package arrived

   Not sure why the first post did not work.. Here it is again:

   After looking at the table and the REVO, It looks like need to mount it 
 like in the pictures. Feedback or comments?

   Thanks,

   Steve

   From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
   Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:36 AM
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Package arrived

   19 inches  wide

   and 10 inches dia work soon when I finish my mod for it

   Bill

     - Original Message -

     From: Tim Krause

     To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

     Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:00 PM

     Subject: Re: Package arrived

     Sorry about being so lazy, the specs are on my history page!  So how wide 
 can you go now?

     -Tim

       - Original Message -

       From: Bill Bulkeley

       To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

       Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:51 PM

       Subject: Re: Package arrived

       if my memory serves me right

       8 wide x 2½ thich X 30 inches long

       Bill

         - Original Message -

         From: Tim Krause

         To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

         Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:27 PM

         Subject: Re: Package arrived

         What's the stock amount of working space for flat work on the revo?

           - Original Message -

           From: Bill Bulkeley

           To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

           Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:13 PM

           Subject: Re: Package arrived

           you would also have to use longer rails on the cross slide to reach 
 the middle of the table.

           this will work, I have longer cross slide rails on my revo and it 
 works ok it gives me a larger linear area for flat work

           and by making a separate table for the circle cutting center I can 
 cut a nice large dia circle too

             - Original Message -

             From: Tim Krause

             To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

             Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:04 PM

             Subject: Re: Package arrived

             I wonder if any of the table actually needs to be cut in the 
 first place.  Could longer brackets be fabricated that support the whole 
 thing?  As a DIY project, it's going to be a challenge in my humble opinion.

             -Tim

               - Original Message -

               From: Louis Brown

               To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

               Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:14 PM

               Subject: Re: Package arrived

               Hello Steve,

               Glad to hear the package arrived.  Not bad for a box sent 
 parcel post.  Enjoy it!

               Begat

               On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:32 PM, SteveEJ 
 s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

               Not sure yet. I need some rosettes for a new facing for our 
 kitchen
               bar. I plan on milling all my own trim. I need some for a new
               fireplace mantle as well. I guess I need to get it cut down and
               installed first!

               BTW: Begat is not the package! haha.. Not very good sentence
               composition on the opening message.. Funny though!

               On Feb 9, 5:11 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
                Good luck Steve
                I hope the turn table is all you hoped for.
                Any ideas on what kind of turnings you are thinking of making?
                Have a safe trip.

                C.A.G.

                - Original Message -

                From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
                To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:28

Re: Package arrived

2012-02-10 Thread SteveEJ
Sorry but I was out and couldn't answer. Date night!

Bill,
  I looked at it again and will be able to mount it either way. I will
not be cutting anything but will line up and drill mounting holes so I
can mount it with the handle either out as in the photo or towards the
gears. There is good clearance either way.

Curt,
  I have used sawdust for recreational therapy for a long time. It is
good for the spirit!

Thanks,

Steve

On Feb 10, 6:48 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Very Nice Steve!
 Now its Play time!!!
 Its called Saw Dust Therapy the more dust you make that better we all will
 feel. ;-)
 C.A.G.







 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Package arrived

 These pictures are of the 900 Table I bought from Begat. Mounting it
 as shown does allow a fully extended (Y axis) router to go just
 slightly past the center of the table. The brackets shown are for
 flatware milling so it would be very easy to scribe and drill the
 table to mount into it. I would rather not cut anything and it looks
 like it will work OK.

 Steve

 On Feb 10, 4:45 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
  Steve are those pictures the new table or pictures of the Revo Table you
  want to make?

  The Goal is to get your REVO to reach into the center of the turn table.
  How far are you off? And is the brackets to hold the table onto the REVO
  the problem or is it the size of the table that is the main problem?
  I am sorry But I have not ever seen the REVO to fully understand the size
  difference,Photo's can be deceiving.

  C.A.G.

  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Jacobs (GMail)
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Package arrived

  Not sure why the first post did not work.. Here it is again:

  After looking at the table and the REVO, It looks like need to mount it
  like in the pictures. Feedback or comments?

  Thanks,

  Steve

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill
  Bulkeley
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:36 AM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  19 inches wide

  and 10 inches dia work soon when I finish my mod for it

  Bill

  - Original Message -

  From: Tim Krause

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:00 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  Sorry about being so lazy, the specs are on my history page! So how wide
  can you go now?

  -Tim

  - Original Message -

  From: Bill Bulkeley

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:51 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  if my memory serves me right

  8 wide x 2� thich X 30 inches long

  Bill

  - Original Message -

  From: Tim Krause

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:27 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  What's the stock amount of working space for flat work on the revo?

  - Original Message -

  From: Bill Bulkeley

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:13 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  you would also have to use longer rails on the cross slide to reach the
  middle of the table.

  this will work, I have longer cross slide rails on my revo and it works ok
  it gives me a larger linear area for flat work

  and by making a separate table for the circle cutting center I can cut a
  nice large dia circle too

  - Original Message -

  From: Tim Krause

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:04 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  I wonder if any of the table actually needs to be cut in the first place.
  Could longer brackets be fabricated that support the whole thing? As a DIY
  project, it's going to be a challenge in my humble opinion.

  -Tim

  - Original Message -

  From: Louis Brown

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:14 PM

  Subject: Re: Package arrived

  Hello Steve,

  Glad to hear the package arrived. Not bad for a box sent parcel post.
  Enjoy it!

  Begat

  On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:32 PM, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

  Not sure yet. I need some rosettes for a new facing for our kitchen
  bar. I plan on milling all my own trim. I need some for a new
  fireplace mantle as well. I guess I need to get it cut down and
  installed first!

  BTW: Begat is not the package! haha.. Not very good sentence
  composition on the opening message.. Funny though!

  On Feb 9, 5:11 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
   Good luck Steve
   I hope the turn table is all you hoped for.
   Any ideas on what kind of turnings

Package arrived

2012-02-09 Thread SteveEJ
Well, The wife said a package has arrived. Wish I was there to open
it. If I am not too tired I will get to the rotary table I bought from
Begat (aka: The package) when I get home late tonight. For now I am
just wasting time in Atlanta Airport thinking about projects!

Steve

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Re: Package arrived

2012-02-09 Thread SteveEJ
Not sure yet. I need some rosettes for a new facing for our kitchen
bar. I plan on milling all my own trim. I need some for a new
fireplace mantle as well. I guess I need to get it cut down and
installed first!

BTW: Begat is not the package! haha.. Not very good sentence
composition on the opening message.. Funny though!

On Feb 9, 5:11 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Good luck Steve
 I hope the turn table is all you hoped for.
 Any ideas on what kind of turnings you are thinking of making?
 Have a safe trip.

 C.A.G.







 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:28 PM
 Subject: Package arrived

  Well, The wife said a package has arrived. Wish I was there to open
  it. If I am not too tired I will get to the rotary table I bought from
  Begat (aka: The package) when I get home late tonight. For now I am
  just wasting time in Atlanta Airport thinking about projects!

  Steve

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900 Vs. REVO

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
OK folks, I would like to know what the REVO can do that the 900 can't
and what the 900 can do that the REVO can't.

I am trying to decide if I really need my 900 CNC and am considering
selling it for a Manual mill.  (900/1200).

I already have a CarveWright that can do vectors and 2.5d reliefs up
to 14.5 wide so I have that covered. I would lose relief carving on a
spindle but I haven't used that yet.

Thoughts? Pro's and Con's?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Legacy Model 400

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
I haven't heard of the 400 but I just watched a Legacy DVD that has a
Model 200 on it. It approaches profiles and templated from the top
down rather from the side. Interesting looking.

Steve

On Feb 4, 4:15 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 I was playing around on the wayback machine (http://www.archive.org/
 web/web.php) and found a Legacy Model 400 from 2004.  It was a
 stripped down 900.  Could not do spirals, but sold for $500.00

 I've never heard anyone mention it.

 Begat

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Re: Legacy Model 400

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
Cool.. How about some pictures!

Steve

On Feb 4, 5:53 pm, Louis Brown bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Steve,

 I have heard of the 200, but not seen it.  By the way, I just got my hands
 on a 600 that has a y-axis without an acme screw!

 Begat







 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:25 PM, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
  I haven't heard of the 400 but I just watched a Legacy DVD that has a
  Model 200 on it. It approaches profiles and templated from the top
  down rather from the side. Interesting looking.

  Steve

  On Feb 4, 4:15 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello All,

   I was playing around on the wayback machine (http://www.archive.org/
   web/web.php) and found a Legacy Model 400 from 2004.  It was a
   stripped down 900.  Could not do spirals, but sold for $500.00

   I've never heard anyone mention it.

   Begat

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Re: 900 Vs. REVO

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Roger,

  I will not be selling the CW. It does too much and for the money it
cannot be beat. Reliability is based on user maintenance.

I also will be keeping the REVO because of feedback from here. I might
have to look at the Shadow. Space is the real issue and I also like
the idea of doing it manually!

Steve

On Feb 4, 5:55 pm, Roger H Phebey r...@woodworkersworkshop.co.uk
wrote:
 Hi Steve
 Here are my thoughts on REVO versus 900, to me it is all about what length
 between centres you require and the diameter of your  proposed work pieces.
 If you can live with 32  and 6 diameter the REVO is excellent plus
 personally I prefer the operators working position. Those are the
 fundamentals as both machines can perform the same operations.  I have the
 original prototype REVO here in the UK and it is a great machine.

 Based on my US market hearsay about reliability I would sell the Carve
 Wright. Then I would look at trading in or selling your 900 with CNC and buy
 an Arty 36 or 58, talk with John Hennen at Legacy to see what deals he has
 if any. An alternative would be to get a Shadow 36 or 58 and add the CNC
 when you are ready if funds are currently in short supply.  The first Shadow
 arrived on Tuesday this past week,   I delivered it on Wednesday and from my
 brief look it is as promised by Andy Anderson an Arty 58 with a new Router
 Gantry that is a big improvement on the old Z Axis, and boy does it move
 smoothly.

 Regards
 Roger







 -Original Message-
 From: legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccly3vpvudrdc-7b5bboe19c...@googlegroups.com

 [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+bncCLy3vPvUDRDC-7b5BBoE19c...@googlegroups.c
 om] On Behalf Of SteveEJ
 Sent: 04 February 2012 23:23
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Subject: 900 Vs. REVO

 OK folks, I would like to know what the REVO can do that the 900 can't and
 what the 900 can do that the REVO can't.

 I am trying to decide if I really need my 900 CNC and am considering selling
 it for a Manual mill.  (900/1200).

 I already have a CarveWright that can do vectors and 2.5d reliefs up to
 14.5 wide so I have that covered. I would lose relief carving on a spindle
 but I haven't used that yet.

 Thoughts? Pro's and Con's?

 Thanks,

 Steve

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Re: 900 Vs. REVO

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
Your probably right. I could get a basic 122 and move the 900/1200
parts to make the 1200 a CNC and the 900 a Standard mill. Just
thinking out loud.

Steve

On Feb 4, 6:07 pm, Louis Brown bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Steve,

 I would not be too quick to give up a cnc that can do relief carvings on a
 turning!!!   The ability to wrap a design around a post or a column is
 something that might make you money.

 If I were you, I'd sit back and wait for a decently priced 900 or 1200.
 The 1200 now selling on ebay in VA is at $1200--and it has a motor and a
 PC.

 Begat

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Roger H Phebey 







 r...@woodworkersworkshop.co.uk wrote:
  Hi Steve
  Here are my thoughts on REVO versus 900, to me it is all about what length
  between centres you require and the diameter of your  proposed work pieces.
  If you can live with 32  and 6 diameter the REVO is excellent plus
  personally I prefer the operators working position. Those are the
  fundamentals as both machines can perform the same operations.  I have the
  original prototype REVO here in the UK and it is a great machine.

  Based on my US market hearsay about reliability I would sell the Carve
  Wright. Then I would look at trading in or selling your 900 with CNC and
  buy
  an Arty 36 or 58, talk with John Hennen at Legacy to see what deals he has
  if any. An alternative would be to get a Shadow 36 or 58 and add the CNC
  when you are ready if funds are currently in short supply.  The first
  Shadow
  arrived on Tuesday this past week,   I delivered it on Wednesday and from
  my
  brief look it is as promised by Andy Anderson an Arty 58 with a new Router
  Gantry that is a big improvement on the old Z Axis, and boy does it move
  smoothly.

  Regards
  Roger

  -Original Message-
  From:
  legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccly3vpvudrdc-7b5bboe19c...@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:
  legacy-ornamental-mills+bncCLy3vPvUDRDC-7b5BBoE19c...@googlegroups.c
  om] On Behalf Of SteveEJ
  Sent: 04 February 2012 23:23
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
  Subject: 900 Vs. REVO

  OK folks, I would like to know what the REVO can do that the 900 can't and
  what the 900 can do that the REVO can't.

  I am trying to decide if I really need my 900 CNC and am considering
  selling
  it for a Manual mill.  (900/1200).

  I already have a CarveWright that can do vectors and 2.5d reliefs up to
  14.5 wide so I have that covered. I would lose relief carving on a spindle
  but I haven't used that yet.

  Thoughts? Pro's and Con's?

  Thanks,

  Steve

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Re: 900 Vs. REVO

2012-02-04 Thread SteveEJ
basic 1200 not 122..

On Feb 4, 6:10 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your probably right. I could get a basic 122 and move the 900/1200
 parts to make the 1200 a CNC and the 900 a Standard mill. Just
 thinking out loud.

 Steve

 On Feb 4, 6:07 pm, Louis Brown bega...@gmail.com wrote:







  Steve,

  I would not be too quick to give up a cnc that can do relief carvings on a
  turning!!!   The ability to wrap a design around a post or a column is
  something that might make you money.

  If I were you, I'd sit back and wait for a decently priced 900 or 1200.
  The 1200 now selling on ebay in VA is at $1200--and it has a motor and a
  PC.

  Begat

  On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Roger H Phebey 

  r...@woodworkersworkshop.co.uk wrote:
   Hi Steve
   Here are my thoughts on REVO versus 900, to me it is all about what length
   between centres you require and the diameter of your  proposed work 
   pieces.
   If you can live with 32  and 6 diameter the REVO is excellent plus
   personally I prefer the operators working position. Those are the
   fundamentals as both machines can perform the same operations.  I have the
   original prototype REVO here in the UK and it is a great machine.

   Based on my US market hearsay about reliability I would sell the Carve
   Wright. Then I would look at trading in or selling your 900 with CNC and
   buy
   an Arty 36 or 58, talk with John Hennen at Legacy to see what deals he has
   if any. An alternative would be to get a Shadow 36 or 58 and add the CNC
   when you are ready if funds are currently in short supply.  The first
   Shadow
   arrived on Tuesday this past week,   I delivered it on Wednesday and from
   my
   brief look it is as promised by Andy Anderson an Arty 58 with a new Router
   Gantry that is a big improvement on the old Z Axis, and boy does it move
   smoothly.

   Regards
   Roger

   -Original Message-
   From:
   legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccly3vpvudrdc-7b5bboe19c...@googlegroups.com
   [mailto:
   legacy-ornamental-mills+bncCLy3vPvUDRDC-7b5BBoE19c...@googlegroups.c
   om] On Behalf Of SteveEJ
   Sent: 04 February 2012 23:23
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
   Subject: 900 Vs. REVO

   OK folks, I would like to know what the REVO can do that the 900 can't and
   what the 900 can do that the REVO can't.

   I am trying to decide if I really need my 900 CNC and am considering
   selling
   it for a Manual mill.  (900/1200).

   I already have a CarveWright that can do vectors and 2.5d reliefs up to
   14.5 wide so I have that covered. I would lose relief carving on a 
   spindle
   but I haven't used that yet.

   Thoughts? Pro's and Con's?

   Thanks,

   Steve

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Re: 1800 for Sale in MS for $3800

2012-02-03 Thread SteveEJ
That's about 3-3.5 hours away. I am in Brighton, TN.

Did you get the mill for fun or business? Maybe both!

I have a REVO and just bought a rotary table (thanks Begat) for the
900 which I will be modifying. I also have the 900 CNC Standard. I am
using the REVO more than the CNC right now. I am still working on the
GCode and Mach3 control software.

Did you get the videos with the mill? They have a lot of good
techniques. Tim and all the folks here have a lot of knowledge and
have made some good mods for their machines.

Stay in touch!

Steve

On Feb 2, 9:07 pm, cpeel pee...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thanks for the welcome steve I am located in Madison just north of
 jackson

 On Feb 2, 7:38 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:







  Welcome to the group! Where in MS ar you locatd? I am just north of
  Memphis.

  Steve

  On Feb 2, 8:26 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hello Cpeel,

   Glad to see someone got that 1800. You'll have to keep us posted on
   what it can do.  By the way, did you find us or the machine first?

   Begat

   On Feb 2, 8:11 pm, cpeel pee...@comcast.net wrote:

I purchased this 1800 a couple of weeks ago and joined the group
today.

On Jan 7, 11:01 am, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI Newly listed 1800 on Craigslist in Jackson, MS for $3,800.  I've
 seen higher prices, and a couple of lower.

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Re: 1800 for Sale in MS for $3800

2012-02-02 Thread SteveEJ

Welcome to the group! Where in MS ar you locatd? I am just north of
Memphis.

Steve

On Feb 2, 8:26 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Cpeel,

 Glad to see someone got that 1800. You'll have to keep us posted on
 what it can do.  By the way, did you find us or the machine first?

 Begat

 On Feb 2, 8:11 pm, cpeel pee...@comcast.net wrote:







  I purchased this 1800 a couple of weeks ago and joined the group
  today.

  On Jan 7, 11:01 am, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:

   FYI Newly listed 1800 on Craigslist in Jackson, MS for $3,800.  I've
   seen higher prices, and a couple of lower.

  http://jackson.craigslist.org/tls/2785151939.html

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Re: Rotary Table

2012-01-26 Thread SteveEJ
I am VERY interested. Will it work on a Revo? Or could it be adapted?

Steve

On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would anyone be interested in a rotary table?  Before listing it on
 ebay, I thought I'd ask.  If so, contact me off group.  I'm hoping to
 get in the neighborhood of $200 for it.  I've had it a year and have
 only used it a couple of times.

 Ebay has free listing today  tomorrow, so if there is no group
 interest, I'll put her up tomorrow evening if I can.

 Begat

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Re: Rotary Table

2012-01-26 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks. I have a air driven cutter wheel and can scribe and
clamp.. :-)

Begat, I will email you about the details.

Thanks Bill!

On Jan 26, 8:33 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 you got it
 Bill







 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 Thanks Bill. So I understand. I would have to cut one side so the
 center of the turntable would be reachable by the router, correct?

 Steve

 On Jan 26, 8:28 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  here is a pic of mine modified the other way to fit my 900
  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Rotary Table

   short answer no , longer answer yes you would have to cut it narrower
   the
   revo rotary table base is
   17 X 9 so you would have to cut it down to 9 inches wide and I believe
   it will fit OK.
   if it was me I would cut just one side then see if it will fit

   Bill

   - Original Message -
   From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:24 PM
   Subject: Re: Rotary Table

   Bill the ball is your court. You know The REVO better than anyone
   around,
   will a Rotary table work on the REVO?
   C.A.G.
   - Original Message -
   From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
   legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:10 PM
   Subject: Re: Rotary Table

   I am VERY interested. Will it work on a Revo? Or could it be adapted?

   Steve

   On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
   Would anyone be interested in a rotary table? Before listing it on
   ebay, I thought I'd ask. If so, contact me off group. I'm hoping to
   get in the neighborhood of $200 for it. I've had it a year and have
   only used it a couple of times.

   Ebay has free listing today  tomorrow, so if there is no group
   interest, I'll put her up tomorrow evening if I can.

   Begat

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Re: Rotary Table

2012-01-26 Thread SteveEJ
I think I will try to get it. I need to get all the tools I can before
I retire (again!).. Now, for the time to do it all..

Steve

On Jan 26, 8:38 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 good luck go for it
 but if you decide not to take it let me know, I just might I have an idea or
 2 I could do if I have 2 rotary tables

 Bill







 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 Thanks. I have a air driven cutter wheel and can scribe and
 clamp.. :-)

 Begat, I will email you about the details.

 Thanks Bill!

 On Jan 26, 8:33 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  you got it
  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Rotary Table

  Thanks Bill. So I understand. I would have to cut one side so the
  center of the turntable would be reachable by the router, correct?

  Steve

  On Jan 26, 8:28 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
   here is a pic of mine modified the other way to fit my 900
   Bill

   - Original Message -
   From: Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:22 PM
   Subject: Re: Rotary Table

short answer no , longer answer yes you would have to cut it narrower
the
revo rotary table base is
17 X 9 so you would have to cut it down to 9 inches wide and I
believe
it will fit OK.
if it was me I would cut just one side then see if it will fit

Bill

- Original Message -
From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Rotary Table

Bill the ball is your court. You know The REVO better than anyone
around,
will a Rotary table work on the REVO?
C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Rotary Table

I am VERY interested. Will it work on a Revo? Or could it be adapted?

Steve

On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
Would anyone be interested in a rotary table? Before listing it on
ebay, I thought I'd ask. If so, contact me off group. I'm hoping to
get in the neighborhood of $200 for it. I've had it a year and have
only used it a couple of times.

Ebay has free listing today  tomorrow, so if there is no group
interest, I'll put her up tomorrow evening if I can.

Begat

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Re: Rotary Table

2012-01-26 Thread SteveEJ
You have email..

On Jan 26, 8:39 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking forward to hearing from you Steve.

 Begat

 On Jan 26, 9:38 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:







  Steve,

  It's 14.75in by 17.25in.  The 14.75 dimension is the one that
  straddles and is tied into the rails.

  Begat

  On Jan 26, 9:33 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

   you got it
   Bill

   - Original Message -
   From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:28 PM
   Subject: Re: Rotary Table

   Thanks Bill. So I understand. I would have to cut one side so the
   center of the turntable would be reachable by the router, correct?

   Steve

   On Jan 26, 8:28 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
here is a pic of mine modified the other way to fit my 900
Bill

- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 short answer no , longer answer yes you would have to cut it narrower
 the
 revo rotary table base is
 17 X 9 so you would have to cut it down to 9 inches wide and I 
 believe
 it will fit OK.
 if it was me I would cut just one side then see if it will fit

 Bill

 - Original Message -
 From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 Bill the ball is your court. You know The REVO better than anyone
 around,
 will a Rotary table work on the REVO?
 C.A.G.
 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 I am VERY interested. Will it work on a Revo? Or could it be adapted?

 Steve

 On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would anyone be interested in a rotary table? Before listing it on
 ebay, I thought I'd ask. If so, contact me off group. I'm hoping to
 get in the neighborhood of $200 for it. I've had it a year and have
 only used it a couple of times.

 Ebay has free listing today  tomorrow, so if there is no group
 interest, I'll put her up tomorrow evening if I can.

 Begat

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Re: Rotary Table

2012-01-26 Thread SteveEJ
Will do Bill. Thanks again for the info!

Steve

On Jan 26, 8:50 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 post pictures of the steps you use cutting it down Steve
 it will be good for future reference if any body else out there wants to do
 the same thing

 Bill







 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

 You have email..

 On Jan 26, 8:39 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looking forward to hearing from you Steve.

  Begat

  On Jan 26, 9:38 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:

   Steve,

   It's 14.75in by 17.25in. The 14.75 dimension is the one that
   straddles and is tied into the rails.

   Begat

   On Jan 26, 9:33 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

you got it
Bill

- Original Message -
From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Rotary Table

Thanks Bill. So I understand. I would have to cut one side so the
center of the turntable would be reachable by the router, correct?

Steve

On Jan 26, 8:28 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 here is a pic of mine modified the other way to fit my 900
 Bill

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Rotary Table

  short answer no , longer answer yes you would have to cut it
  narrower
  the
  revo rotary table base is
  17 X 9 so you would have to cut it down to 9 inches wide and I
  believe
  it will fit OK.
  if it was me I would cut just one side then see if it will fit

  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Rotary Table

  Bill the ball is your court. You know The REVO better than anyone
  around,
  will a Rotary table work on the REVO?
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
  legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Rotary Table

  I am VERY interested. Will it work on a Revo? Or could it be
  adapted?

  Steve

  On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, Begat bega...@gmail.com wrote:
  Would anyone be interested in a rotary table? Before listing it
  on
  ebay, I thought I'd ask. If so, contact me off group. I'm hoping
  to
  get in the neighborhood of $200 for it. I've had it a year and
  have
  only used it a couple of times.

  Ebay has free listing today  tomorrow, so if there is no group
  interest, I'll put her up tomorrow evening if I can.

  Begat

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Re: Fw: Legacy magizine on file

2012-01-22 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Bill!
  I just converted them to PDF's and saved them to my library. After
Church I will be printing and laminating them so they will be safe in
my shop!

Steve


On Jan 21, 6:16 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 this is an old request I have made many times before
 please any old legacy pages or magazine articles or techniques
 please scan and share them with us or me on my ofline email if you don't
 wish to post
 bulke...@mmnet.com.au

 it will benefit us all
  here is an example of some I have found searching the net which may or may
 not be in the mags but i keep everything i find

 Bill







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 From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: Fw: Legacy magizine on file

  Hello Begat
  I am glad to hear that you liked the articles, Yes I too think that they
  were something special.(something worth saving and sharing with others.)

  About sharpening router bits. Between you and I, that's something for a
  pro. Instead of sharpening, think of the term,honing.
  I hone all my bits after I use them every time, With a small diamond
  stone, 20-50 strokes per flat will keep the router bits
  supper sharp for many years of use.
  And I too like to look at the pictures. ;-)
  Have a good night.
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: Begat bega...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Legacy magizine on file

  Curt,

  I really enjoyed the magazines as well.  I think they are great.  And
  I did learn things from them.  For instance, I had been wondering
  about sharpening bits.

  And it was good to see some of the older machines.  Great post.

  Begat

  On Jan 21, 4:12 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
  You are Welcome Steve.
  I did not scan the magazines my self a member here did (Mike Pung.) But I
  did save the scans and am only to happy to share the wealth. There is a
  Vol. 7 that I own, as soon as I can I plan to scan that magazine as
  well.(but cant at this moment, my scanner is not working.) I believe it
  was the printing of the mag. that Legacy made, it was printed in sep.
  2005. if there was an vol 8 I do not own it.

  Tim do you have the one on file? (he just might, Steve, this topic has
  come up before.)

  Anyhow... If I have not said it before, Welcome the group Steve, If you
  have any question or ideas, Please feel free to ask. Also We (Me or
  should I say I.) would love to see anything that you make. There is a
  small learning curve that needs to be understood,when it come to the O.R.
  mill. And if you share your information with us, then everyone can learn
  from the experience.

  More to come latter.

  Have a great day.

  C.A.G.

  - Original Message -
  From: Steven Jacobs
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Legacy magizine on file

  Thanks Curt. I am downloading them now!

  Steve

  On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:08 AM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
  wrote:

  Here are the links for the mag. I hope this helps.
  in vol.6 you can see the 2000 as well as the molding machine.

  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: curt george
  Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:58 PM
  Subject: Legacy magizine on file

 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol1.pdf
 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol2.pdf
 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol3.pdf
 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol4.pdf
 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol5.pdf
 http://gftsi.com/legacy/OMvol6.pdf

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Fired up...

2012-01-20 Thread SteveEJ
Well,
  I just watched the training videos for the manual Legacy mills. I
like the Hands On approach better than the automated CNC process for a
lot of things. It really makes me want to get out there and make chips
fly! The problem is, the training videos are for the 900 and up. My
manual mill is for the REVO. So, most of the add-ons shown are not the
same for my mill. Does anyone know where I may watch the REVO training
videos, if there are even videos just for it? I bought my machine used
and the origional owner only had the assembly videos.

  Maybe if I upload some pictures of the brackets and other items that
came with it you can identify what it is and how it's used?

  Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Fired up...

2012-01-20 Thread SteveEJ
I have made Pens with the REVO. It looks like I have the dovetail
attachment. I don't have the Framing kit. There are some other
brackets that I am not sure about. It looks like one set is for a
table/flat stock system. Two 90 degree brackets.

I wish there was some way to save the videos for reference. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Steve

On Jan 20, 7:42 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUofeature=plcpcontext=C3b7c...

 Here is another video for you Steve..
 C.A.G.







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 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Fired up...

  Hello Steve
 http://legacywoodworking.com/classes.cfm?projectid=10
  On The Legacy web site, there are still some Revo stuff.I would start
  there is I were you.
  I know that Bill also owns a Revo. Perhaps he could send you some ideas.
  The Revo works the same as the other Legacy's do, its just put together
  somewhat differently.
  I will do some home work for you and see if I can dig up anything more for
  you.
  Good luck, and Let them chips start flying, (that's the best way to
  learn.)
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:18 PM
  Subject: Fired up...

  Well,
   I just watched the training videos for the manual Legacy mills. I
  like the Hands On approach better than the automated CNC process for a
  lot of things. It really makes me want to get out there and make chips
  fly! The problem is, the training videos are for the 900 and up. My
  manual mill is for the REVO. So, most of the add-ons shown are not the
  same for my mill. Does anyone know where I may watch the REVO training
  videos, if there are even videos just for it? I bought my machine used
  and the origional owner only had the assembly videos.

   Maybe if I upload some pictures of the brackets and other items that
  came with it you can identify what it is and how it's used?

   Thanks,

  Steve

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Re: Fired up...

2012-01-20 Thread SteveEJ
Yes but the only REVO specific was the Pens, Dovetails and Framing
attachments. Everything else has been 900 or larger models. Maybe I
need to look up the 900 in Houston. I will be driving there Feb 21 for
a week. Then I can sell the REVO to get some 900 attachments. Just
thinking out loud.

Steve

On Jan 20, 8:41 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Have you seen all the videos posted on the original Legacy site?

 -Tim









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 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:18 PM
 Subject: Fired up...

  Well,
    I just watched the training videos for the manual Legacy mills. I
  like the Hands On approach better than the automated CNC process for a
  lot of things. It really makes me want to get out there and make chips
  fly! The problem is, the training videos are for the 900 and up. My
  manual mill is for the REVO. So, most of the add-ons shown are not the
  same for my mill. Does anyone know where I may watch the REVO training
  videos, if there are even videos just for it? I bought my machine used
  and the origional owner only had the assembly videos.

    Maybe if I upload some pictures of the brackets and other items that
  came with it you can identify what it is and how it's used?

    Thanks,

  Steve

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Re: old legacy videos

2011-08-20 Thread SteveEJ
Anyone have the videos that came with the Revo? I bought mine used (no
longer made) and they were not included. I need to make some tapered
legs for a vanity stool. Any ideas here.. I do have a 900 Legacy
Standard CNC but it was used as well and no videos with it either. I
am learning the hard way with as I cannot see in my brain what the
GCode is doing (yet). The Revo is easier for me to see what it will be
doing before I make toothpicks..

Thanks,

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Re: Build log of sorts for a 1200 upgrade to CNC

2011-08-20 Thread SteveEJ
Chainlink,
  Are you going to install limit switches or use software limits in
Mach?

I have a 900/Standard and added fuses to each motor. I also want to
add limit switches. Still a ways from there as I need time to dig in
and time is pretty short. Let me know if you want to see what a stock
900 standard CNC looks like for your upgrade reference.

Thanks,

Steve

On Aug 19, 9:06 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 What's the rpm on the spindle?  This is where you might benefit from using
 gears or a timing belt to increase the torque, but you will loose your
 speed.   Stepper start loosing torque around the 500 rpm range generally.
 At least we know now that the 387oz range motor is too small.

 You might want to check your bushings on your z axis and make sure that they
 are not oversized and causing the z axis to bind up more than it should.
 I've seen a couple of the Z-axis where if you removed the lead screw, the
 router would not move up or down.  There is a fine line between slop, freely
 moving and binding.

 Hopefully Art can guide you on the threading.  I'd would like to see a
 sample g-code for the spirals that are not using g01 to make the move.  I
 have assumed all along that a threading cycle could be used.

 Thanks for the update and video!

 -Tim









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 From: Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Build log of sorts for a 1200 upgrade to CNC

  I had my first success today with the upgrade. Here is a link to a
  video of the carve in action! Sorry about the loud volume; I wasn't in
  the mood to edit the video.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ46e3gwiA

  Details:

  I needed some 1 1/2 dowels for my newest table project, so I decided
  to try my best to use my CNC upgrade. I had problems in two areas:
  First, my Z-axis stalled when raising. Second, I had to make shallow
  passes to keep from stalling the A-axis. One thing I did notice was
  that as the motors warmed up, my z-axis was much better behaved and
  seemed to work well.

  I spent just about 8 minutes per dowel once I got the procedure down.
  I even bumped up the A-axis motor speed and ran it so that I could run
  some sandpaper over the finished dowel--it's pretty nice to be able to
  do that. I must say that I absolutely loved the ease of repeatability
  that the CNC commands provided. My Z axis held it's depth without
  having to constantly fiddle with locking down the Z axis on every
  depth change like I used to do. Small changes to depth are really easy
  to make. I ended up just where I wanted to be with my dowels, a bit
  undersized at 1.48 to 1.49.

  Although I spent most of my evening in the shop, I feel like my time
  was at least equally spent vs. manual milling without the added
  frustration and effort. It was nice to prepare the next blank while I
  was waiting. Next up, the big timesaver would be to cut my threads via
  CNC. I don't know where to start with that one, if anyone has any
  tips.

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Re: REVO SALE

2011-07-19 Thread SteveEJ
Mac,
  I wish the best for you and good luck with the sale. I wish you were
in the states so I could work a deal but you are not and I can't.
That's probably good for you though as you are fortunate not to have
to live with a current govt like ours. Good government, bad occupiers
of the offices,

Best wishes.

Steve

On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 sorry to see you go Mac you will be missed as a legacy owner  but hopefully
 you will keep monitoring and posting to the group from time to time
 Bill







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 From: MACSWAG sandra.dill...@virginmedia.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:18 AM
 Subject: REVO SALE

 Hi everybody, It's been a long time since I have posted,nice to see
 all the old familiar faces are still very busy, The time has come
 owing to a bereavement and now ill health,sic.Arthritis and
 emphysema,I have decided to sell off my tools and go find some
 sunshine,

 For sale is my REVO AND TURNTABLE AND THE ROUTER TABLE ATTACHMENT AND
 ALL THE GEARS YOU CAN THINK OF ALSO ALL THE CUTTERS TO NUMEROUS TO
 QUOTE,ALSO DOGS AND REVERSE GEARS AND TURNTABLE
 UNIVERSAL LINK,ALSO THE PEN MANDREL KIT ,UNUSED,AND TIM'S
 RECIPROCATOR,A MUST FOR ANY REVO OWNER,ALSO A ELECTRIC GISMO FOR
 SLOWING DOWN AN ELECTRIC DRILL ATTACHMENT THAT I USE TO POWER THE LEAD
 SCREW,SAVES A LOT OF WINDING,THIS ALSO COMES WITH A VERY GOOD
 ROUTER,STILL ATTACHED,A
 SPARE CUT NUT ,ALL THE SPANNERS AND TOOLS,AND TWO DESIGN PADS AND
 THEIR PLASTIC TEMPLATESAND ANYTHING ELSE I COME ACROSS IN MY WORKSHOP,
 I will post a photo soon as I can clear my w/shop and get a nice sunny
 day to put it all on a table outside,I'm sad to see it go but it needs
 a younger enthusiastic man to get a lot more pleasure from it, as I
 say I just want to get away for a wee while,this would probably be of
 more interest to someone in BRITAIN,although I will post anywhere in
 the world but it would be pricey as it will all weigh quite a bit and
 would best to be picked up from my home in the new forest area,e.g.the
 south coast, it is difficult to put a price on all this gear,you can't
 buy it anymore, so  I'm asking for 1200.please, I will not split it
 up as the value is in the total lot and will enable someone to start
 rite away producing the lovely wood work they want to make,so come on
 lads shake the old baccy tin and count your pennies,I'm also nearly
 deaf now,legacy from working in heavy industry,so I can't talk on the
 phone,
 so here is my E/MAIL. ADD.   (sandra.dill...@virginmedia.com )I know I
 shouldn't make my add public but I have no choice,don't get old chaps
 it's no fun,hoping to hear from you guys soon, MAC.

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Re: revo

2011-07-17 Thread SteveEJ
Bill,
  My 900 came as a CNC already so there were no gears for me to be
able to keep. I wish I had them!  I have Tim's bed height adjustment
that I use on it (CNC) and am very happy with it's ease of use. I do
wonder if the rotary table will work on the Revo but then I look at
the 900CNC and realise that I can do that on it without a table. I do
want to use the Revo for more than pens. I plan on some small diameter
spindles that are reinforced with a brass rod in the middle like a
pen. I can use a long mandrel to hold it in place making it much more
rigid allowing for more accuracy on a much longer spindle that has a
small diameter like that of a pen.

Just another idea..

Steve

On Jul 17, 9:11 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 Thanks Steve good to hear from you , another revo owner and remember all the
 gears of the 900 will also fit the revo I interchange all the time. I was
 hoping there was at least one other revo owner out there, so I know  its
 worth posting stuff to do with it. mine I bought new so any thing you need
 to know if I can help I will
 I find the revo has much less saddle play than the 900 and is much better
 for template work. and any modifications I do on the revo I will post.the
 only fault I have found with them so far is the revo tends to build up saw
 dust under the saddle and makes it stiff to slide until you clean it out by
 undoing 2 of the top hat slides and cleaning under the saddle .the amount of
 times you have to do this can I find can be greatly reduced by drilling a
 couple of half inch holes in the bottom of each of the rails this helps
 greatly as the saddle slides over the holes much of the dust falls through
 and slows it from building up underneath. people with the  900 can do the
 same thing on their cross slide to help stop the same thing. I think Tim K
 once posted a pic of this on here once a long time ago
  Bill







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 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: revo

 Bill, I own a Revo and a 900 CNC. I use the 900 for mostly flat cnc
 work and have a batch of spindles to turn this fall for my porches. I
 use the Revo for pens. I am playing with glues and pen materials.
 Epoxy seems to be the one glue that consistently holds well. I like my
 Revo although I am short on gears, etc. I bought it used and don't
 have much for manuals. It is fun to watch the cnc do it's work but I
 must admit, I like the hands on approach too.. I read every post here
 and amazed by the craftsmanship displayed. I wish I was that good and
 had more time. The heat is killing me here in West Tennessee as well!

 Steve

 On Jul 15, 8:58 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  Id like to know are there any revo owners out there who read the postings
  on here I own a revo as well as a 900
  and in some ways I feel the revo is a superior machine but I never see any
  postings on it or work done on it.
  so I'm curious if any are out there much??

  Bill

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Re: Legacy's Pathetic Customer Service

2011-01-14 Thread SteveEJ

I agree with Curt. Let's get back to making stuff!  Acrylic pens are
my latest! It was here that I learned that it was even possible! Great
learning place.. Let's get back to it..

On another note: who sent all the really cold weather to west
Tennessee?  You can take it back whenever you want! I need a warmer
garage to get back to work!!!

Steve

Now I need to get my 900cnc to make pens!


On Jan 14, 8:06 pm, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone.
 Crafty Mack, I think your points are well received.(for the most part.)
 Although I am afraid say, it looks like you too are falling into the same
 trap here as some others have in the past.,(for whatever there reasons
 were... This is not a healthy thread.)

 Hopefully everyone now has let off enough steam ,So We can get back to some
 real idea and projects to talk about.

  Im Asking ,EVERYONE  Here TO JUST LET THIS TOPIC DIE OFF.

 I was told a long time ago,That A person is borne with only so many happy
 cells in there body.
 So if this is true, Why take a chance of killing off the good side of life,
 that you may never get back,with a lot of un-pleasant thoughts?   ;-)

 Have a good night all.
 C.A.G.



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 From: Crafty Mack w.m...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:55 PM
 Subject: Re: Legacy's Pathetic Customer Service

  Having read the title of this topic I thought here we go again, it's
  time to 'run the legacy company down' again. It's happened so, so
  often on this Forum it's becoming a
  joke.

  On this occassion I feel the tone of the opening post went too far by
  actually insulting an individual in a very aggressive way.

  William although you may have had a problem with the service you
  received from the company, to post such derogatry comments about one
  of it's employees is totally unacceptable  should have no place on
  this forum.

  I agree with Curt in respect of getting the name of the person you
  speak to should always be a basic requirement. If you would have done
  that you would have had someone to whom you could have addressed your
  later problems too without being sent around the houses.Having stated
  that numerous messages were left  call back promises broken why did
  you not just phone the company  ask to talk to the man at the top, Mr
  Andy Anderson and without exploding straight away, just in case he had
  no prior knowledge of your complaint, go on  explain how his company
  had let you down, I'm sure he would have addressed the matter  may
  have been able to think about preventing a re-occurence in the future.

  That's what has constantly amazed me about all the negative comments
  posted over time on this forum concerning Legacy customer service, no
  one has ever done it constructively.The first thing to do seems to be
  come on here  have a rant, where's the benefit in that? No one comes
  forward with suggestions on how they'd improve it. Sometimes I think
  it becomes forgotten the size of a company Legacy actually is, how
  many people do they actually have to do everything that is expected of
  them? I don't think it's as many as people seem to assume. Each person
  would appear to specialize in an aspect of the company  may not be
  aware of anothers duties if called upon to deputise.

  The employee that was referred to so kindly in the opening post would
  go out of their way to offer support to customers, how do I know?
  because recently he spent 45mins on the phone to me explaining a
  rather complicated CNC software issue I was having, did he earn
  anything out of it? well yes he earnt my thanks and I know by his
  parting comments that I'm more than welcome to contact him if I incur
  further problems.

  This group has in the past tried to encourage Legacy to take part in
  discussions, to give their view on things, now the person within the
  company who I know for a fact monitors what's being discussed, has
  made postings,  been named as helping numerous customers with
  problems probably will no longer be so keen to offer anything
  following Williams kind words about their abilities.

  William my last point is addressed to your reply to 'Euro Legacy', do
  you know who you were addressing, I'm pretty sure not! because if so
  you would have checked their previous postings and found out that they
  are the UK reseller for Legacy. Now holding such a position you would
  expect them to be in regular contact with employees of the company
  hence becoming aware of the names of those having had complaints made
  against them.  My point... perhaps in the future it may be better to
  do a little research  give more thought to postings.

  I have been a customer of Legacy for more years than I can remember 
  I will continue to be one for many more to come. I've found if you
  deal with them in the way you would want others to deal with you then
  all goes well.Yes they 

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

2010-12-05 Thread SteveEJ
Bill,
  Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
them?

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK 
 just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as birthday 
 gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off line seeing 
 as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas ornament posting
 Bill

   - Original Message -
   From: curt george
   To: Legacy Google group
   Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
   Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

   Hello everyone.
   Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the 
 point.

   I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then 
 finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things like 
 that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've not tried 
 making any kind of pens before.
   Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made anything 
 out of acrylics on the Legacy?

   I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
   Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
   thanks in advance Everyone.
   Gota go!

   C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

2010-12-05 Thread SteveEJ
Tim,
 I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
would stabilize the glue up better.

Bill,
 Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.

Steve

On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf craig.kn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics are
 brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
 hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge. I
 might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
 grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by Bealls
 polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my Legacy
 1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
 On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





  Hi Steve
  when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did on a
  legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
  I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
  I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
 spiral
  rope pitch with the router on full speed
  the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
  but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the shop
 in
  a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so good
  or bad you guys will know how it goes

  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

  Bill,
  Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
  How about router speed and feed rate? I would like to try some spiral
  acrylic pens as well. I have the wooden ones down now and want to
  experiment. How did you polish the acrylic to a shine after milling
  them?

  Thanks,

  Steve

  On Dec 4, 7:48 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  I 'v done a couple of spiral pens out of acrylic the bits seem to work OK
  just like on wood for me I cant show any pics as I gave them away as
  birthday gifts but I would be glad to do one and send you a pic or 2 off
  line seeing as you were one of the only ones to comment on my Christmas
  ornament posting
  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: curt george
  To: Legacy Google group
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
  Subject: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

  Hello everyone.
  Its almost dinner time for me, I this message will be short and to the
  point.

  I know a gentleman who is casting his own acrylic pen blanks, and then
  finishing them on his lathe, I had no idea that you could even do things
  like that? I know Rockler wood working stores sell pen blanks, but I've
  not tried making any kind of pens before.
  Anyhow, this brings up the big question, has anyone out there made
  anything out of acrylics on the Legacy?

  I have not idea if the router bits will cut acrylics well?
  Any info on this topic will be gratefully accepted.
  thanks in advance Everyone.
  Gota go!

  C.A.G.

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Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

2010-12-05 Thread SteveEJ
I agree with Tim concerning using epoxy rather than CA. Better bond
that is more flexible than CA. It would also handle the heat in a
different and better way than CA.

After turning many Acrylic pens on a lathe I have learned that being
careful with cut depth and pressure on the material is very important!
With that in mind I think I will use very sharp bits, very shallow
cuts and medium feed speeds. To reduce the heat and chipout of the
material I would rather reduce the cut depth and speed up the feed
rate. With acrylics it is important to remember that the material is
the boss. Take what it will give you and you have a better chance of
success. I have been turning at 3000 rpm on my lathe and had the
material cut like butter with a hot knife then all the sudden have a
different feel because of a density change requiring a different
pressure on the chisel. Picky stuff!

I will let you know how it turns out..

Steve

On Dec 5, 7:26 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Well, I both know and respect Barry, but for gluing two different materials
 together I would still use epoxy.  I've had more failures using medium CA
 than I have had with epoxy.  Your mileage may vary.

 I did watch the video and noticed he is specifying a Pen Makers CA glue
 which is flexible.  Personally I've never seen this before.   Also I think
 his sanding to over 1000 grit is excessive.  Again personal opinion.

 Maybe Santa will send me a video camera that I can use to video stuff on the
 Legacy this year?

 -Tim



 - Original Message -
 From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

  Tim just found this. berry gross videos are pretty good. He used a CA glue
  for gluing in the brass tube.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDrR7xocrvQfeature=related
  I have also found some Pen state videos on polishing.
  Using the Legacy should be much like what the Pen Wizard dose.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ
  as well as his buffing system
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnL2YVz7kQfeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL
  Its amazing what you can find on the net.
  I hope this stuff helps. again nothing is better than experience, but???
  This stuff is pretty good TOO.  ;-)

  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

   I'm voting for milling as fast as possible and to use low to medium
 router
   speeds to avoid melting the acrylic.  Definitely use epoxy for gluing.
 CA
   will not hold in my experience.

   -Tim

   - Original Message -
   From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:44 PM
   Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

   Tim,
   I agree and would do a multistage polish. Also, I would think that
   you would need to mill the blanks VERY slowly due to heat and
   brittleness of the material. One additional thought, I will probably
   use epoxy to glue the brass tube rather than CA. I would think that it
   would stabilize the glue up better.

   Bill,
   Thanks for the info.. I look forward to the pictures.

   Steve

   On Dec 5, 4:25 pm, Craig Knouf craig.kn...@gmail.com wrote:
   I have done many acrylic pen on my jet lathe; never a spiral. Acrylics
   are
   brittle and do wear lathe turning tools more quickly than for exotic
   hardwoods. Also polishing spiral turned acrylics would be a challenge.
 I
   might suggest a very find grit flapped sander to get into the spiral
   grooves. I typically use 1200 or higher grit sandpaper followed by
 Bealls
   polishing system for smoothest / polished finish. Closest thing on my
   Legacy
   1000EX was a spiral candlestick. - Craig
   On Dec 5, 2010 4:43 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

Hi Steve
when I did a acrylic pen it was just about the first thing I ever did
on
   a
legacy so I was very ignorant of what to do
I remember following the pen instructions off the legacy page
I turned it round first then did several light cuts to achieve the 3
   spiral
rope pitch with the router on full speed
the finished seemed OK but I didn't polish it or any thing.
but I have a couple of acrylic blanks here now so I will go into the
   shop
   in
a few minutes and make a pen taking pictures as I go and post them so
   good
or bad you guys will know how it goes

Bill

- Original Message -
From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

Bill,
Was there any special precautions that need to be used above normal?
How about

Re: Useing acrylics on the Legacy?

2010-12-05 Thread SteveEJ
Very nice Bill !!!  Did you use standard Legacy recommended router
speeds?  You have inspired me to try it out in the next couple of
days!

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 5, 8:08 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
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Re: Spiral Pens and Question

2010-07-21 Thread SteveEJ
Doing well Tim.. If I was at home I would send a picture.. I have made
4 of them. 3 in Walnut and 1 in Bloodwood. The Bloodwood did not stay
around long. Maybe 10 minutes.

Steve

On Jul 21, 12:50 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 How's the pineapple pen working out?

 -Tim

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Spiral Pens and Question

 Thanks folks. Keep it simple is still the best way. Sometimes I think
 way too much!

 Now, to figure out how to upload some pictures.. Reading would
 probably help! :-)

 Steve

 On Jul 9, 1:26 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  I go back to the starting point and mark a little line on the bed as a
 just
  in case reference

  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:56 PM
  Subject: Spiral Pens and Question

   Hey guys,
   I made my first two spiral pens with my Revo today and really liked
   them. My next pen will be a Pineapple (opposing spirals). Is there a
   trick to having them start at the same cut point?

   Thanks,
   Steve

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View this page Revo and Pens Part-2

2010-07-09 Thread SteveEJ


Click on 
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- or copy  paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
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Re: CNC Kit

2010-07-02 Thread SteveEJ
Art,
  As details emerge I would appreciate it if you would keep us
informed. I am looking at replacing my CarveWright with something a
little bigger and better.

Thanks,

Steve

On Jul 2, 7:26 am, Art Ransom akran...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 Went today to see a prototype of a CNC router kit.  It is 2' by 3' so it is 
 easily transportable to shows.  End result I have ordered one.  Really not 
 much of a kit as all the critical parts ( V rails for X and Y, Z axis and 
 gantry side plates) are prebuilt sub assemblies.  Anti backlash nuts are 
 assembled, installed and adjusted.  I can probably complete build in about 4 
 hours.  Cost is not firmed up yet but will be under $2k.  Add less than $1200 
  for Campbell's controller, motors (640 oz/in), cables and switches and $157 
 for Mach3 license.  I am using the Acer Revo PC to drive my router and it is 
 $199 new at Fry's and Dell Refurbished E2310H 23-inch Widescreen Flat Panel 
 Monitor

 (Part # D606R) at $169.  PC and monitor both have 3 year warranty.  I am 
 going to also get the water cooled spindle.  

  build in about 4 hours.  

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Problems with group reading

2010-06-28 Thread SteveEJ
Hey folks,
 Am I the only one having problems reading the group with Mozilla
Firefox? It keeps trying to load the page and says 'Redirecting'.

  All is good with Internet Explorer..

  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Problems with group reading

2010-06-28 Thread SteveEJ
Still no good. Mine shows it as a secured site with a security
certificate. The lock is displayed at the bottom. It is locked up in
'redirecting'.

I do not see a no-script indicator. There is a lock, stars and XMarks
icon.

Thanks,

Steve

On Jun 28, 9:47 am, Sanat sa...@frognet.net wrote:
 Hi Steve

 I am using Firefox version 3.6.6  It is recommended that this new
 version be used if you are not presently using it because of the
 tendency of some sites to commandeer tabs. If you are running No-
 Script as well then some sites need to be added to the whitelist in
 No-Script.  Look in the no-script lists to see if it is re-directing
 you.(right click the no-script indicator at the bottom of the page and
 then click options).

 I have the following Google sites in my whitelist
 google-analytics.com
 google.com
 googleadservices.com
 googleapis.com
 googlesyndication.com

 I am presently typing this on-line so the problem is not with a
 compatibility problem with the Firefox browser and Google

 sincerely

 Sanat

 On Jun 28, 9:09 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hey folks,
   Am I the only one having problems reading the group with Mozilla
  Firefox? It keeps trying to load the page and says 'Redirecting'.

    All is good with Internet Explorer..

    Any ideas?

  Thanks,

  Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Problems with group reading

2010-06-28 Thread SteveEJ
That fixed it. Thanks Tim.. You da Man!

Steve

On Jun 28, 11:07 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Whoops, that was remove all of the groups.google.com cookies also.

 -Tim



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 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 6:09 AM
 Subject: Problems with group reading

  Hey folks,
   Am I the only one having problems reading the group with Mozilla
  Firefox? It keeps trying to load the page and says 'Redirecting'.

    All is good with Internet Explorer..

    Any ideas?

  Thanks,

  Steve

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-15 Thread SteveEJ
OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will
order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they
still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen
spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am
looking forward to expanding the horizons!

Cheers,

Steve

On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards
 the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom
 of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the
 router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish
 away
 when doing the spirals anyway
 Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGrouptheID=136

 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making
  pens.  It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details.
  Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard
 http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthat would work great
  if you had a collet for the 1/8 shank bits.

  I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger
  machines for a long time.  Did you ever get around to making it happen?

  -Tim

  - Original Message -
  From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  Good morning Cole
  I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
  Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
  possible.
  I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
  normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very
  light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
  I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a
  smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
  cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
  difference?
  At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
  shapes
  where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get   stright cut
  or
  tappered pens.
  On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on
  there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that
  need
  to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
  As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the
  lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
  glued
  onto a piece of brass.
  Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take
  some
  more experimenting that all. ;-)
  have a good day.
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: cole coleandrew...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
  Subject: pens on the mill

   We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well
   as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height
   of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
   was worth. With a simpler style of pen  and a different style of bit
   we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too
   much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-15 Thread SteveEJ
Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that
Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo
pen video at Legacy as well.

Thanks,

Steve

On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Steve
 Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those.
 Just curious?
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will
 order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they
 still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen
 spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am
 looking forward to expanding the horizons!

 Cheers,

 Steve

 On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, Bill Bulkeley wrote:
  I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards
  the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom
  of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the
  router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish
  away
  when doing the spirals anyway
  Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGrouptheID=136

  - Original Message -
  From: Tim Krause
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making
   pens.  It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details.
   Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard
  http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwould work great
   if you had a collet for the 1/8 shank bits.

   I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger
   machines for a long time.  Did you ever get around to making it happen?

   -Tim

   - Original Message -
   From: curt george
   To:
   Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM
   Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   Good morning Cole
   I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
   Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
   possible.
   I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
   normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very
   light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
   I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a
   smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
   cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
   difference?
   At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
   shapes
   where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get   stright cut
   or
   tappered pens.
   On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on
   there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that
   need
   to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
   As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the
   lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
   glued
   onto a piece of brass.
   Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take
   some
   more experimenting that all. ;-)
   have a good day.
   C.A.G.
   - Original Message -
   From: cole
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
   Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
   Subject: pens on the mill

We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well
as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height
of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
was worth. With a simpler style of pen  and a different style of bit
we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too
much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-15 Thread SteveEJ
Yup.. Then you insert the mandrel rod into the chuck and tighten it
down. I did the same thing with the Shop Smith so no big deal except
the wait. It is WAY too hot outside now anyway. I have to finish my
pool deck in the next few mornings and evenings then I am off to the
mills and lathe. I was smart enough to put a window AC unit in the
shop so I can work all year long..

Steve

On Jun 15, 1:14 pm, Cole Andrews coleandrew...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe they said it holds a Jacobs chuck like a drill.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: CURTIS GEORGE curtgeo...@wowway.com
 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:11:34
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Steve
 Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those.
 Just curious?
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will
 order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they
 still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen
 spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am
 looking forward to expanding the horizons!

 Cheers,

 Steve

 On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, Bill Bulkeley wrote:
  I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre towards
  the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom
  of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with the
  router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the finish
  away
  when doing the spirals anyway
  Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGrouptheID=136

  - Original Message -
  From: Tim Krause
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for making
   pens.  It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more details.
   Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard
  http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwould work great
   if you had a collet for the 1/8 shank bits.

   I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger
   machines for a long time.  Did you ever get around to making it happen?

   -Tim

   - Original Message -
   From: curt george
   To:
   Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM
   Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   Good morning Cole
   I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
   Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
   possible.
   I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
   normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very
   light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
   I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a
   smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
   cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
   difference?
   At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
   shapes
   where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get   stright cut
   or
   tappered pens.
   On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on
   there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that
   need
   to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
   As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the
   lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
   glued
   onto a piece of brass.
   Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take
   some
   more experimenting that all. ;-)
   have a good day.
   C.A.G.
   - Original Message -
   From: cole
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
   Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
   Subject: pens on the mill

We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well
as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height
of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
was worth. With a simpler style of pen  and a different style of bit
we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too
much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-15 Thread SteveEJ
Dang.. It has been a long time. Way too much traveling for work and
not enough time at home. That makes home time - catch up time for
honey do's.

I have made quite a few pens on a lathe so the Revo will be my
specialty pen tool. I will keep the group advised and take some
pictures.

Steve

On Jun 15, 1:42 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Actually, it was Bill that told us a long time ago when you first asked and
 I just recalled what he said.  You've been waiting a long time to make some
 pens, I hope they are all you expect them to be!  If not, I'd love to hear
 about the problems and see if we can get past them as a group.

 -Tim

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:14 AM
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Nope.. Wish it would as I have 2 of them. It is a threaded end that
 Tim told me was a 3/8-24 thread Jacobs chuck. I saw this in the Revo
 pen video at Legacy as well.

 Thanks,

 Steve

 On Jun 15, 1:11 pm, CURTIS GEORGE curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
  Steve
  Can the Revo hold a #2 MT pen arbor. Rockler sell those.
  Just curious?
  C.A.G.

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  OK.. I just ordered 2 Jacobs chucks for the Revo. Next patday I will
  order the .25 gear reduction set from Legacy. Dane Mooreman said they
  still have them ($199.00). When they get here I will be set up for pen
  spiral and polygon making. I have a Midi Lathe for Pen turning and am
  looking forward to expanding the horizons!

  Cheers,

  Steve

  On Jun 14, 5:19 pm, Bill Bulkeley wrote:
   I just use magnates 3/4 surface planing bit and set it off centre
 towards
   the back and turn the handle clock wise which is into the bottom
   of the bit but I have at times just used a 1/2 inch bit that came with
 the
   router it is not a smooth finish but it doesn't matter you turn the
 finish
   away
   when doing the spirals anyway
   Billhttp://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGrouptheID=136

   - Original Message -
   From: Tim Krause
   To:
   Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:25 AM
   Subject: Re: pens on the mill

That laminate trimmer legacy used on the 200 was a good size for
 making
pens. It would have allowed you to use smaller bits and get more
 details.
Jerry Beall sells some small bits for his pen wizard
   http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/bits.phpthatwouldwork
 great
if you had a collet for the 1/8 shank bits.

I know you and I have talked about using a small router in our larger
machines for a long time. Did you ever get around to making it happen?

-Tim

- Original Message -
From: curt george
To:
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: pens on the mill

Good morning Cole
I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it
 is
possible.
I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy,
 I
normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take
 very
light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and
 used a
smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
difference?
At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
shapes
where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get stright
 cut
or
tappered pens.
On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens
 on
there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that
need
to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on
 the
lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
glued
onto a piece of brass.
Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might
 take
some
more experimenting that all. ;-)
have a good day.
C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: cole
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: pens on the mill

 We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as
 well
 as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the
 height
 of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
 was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit
 we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was
 too
 much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-14 Thread SteveEJ
Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small
problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck
that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the
Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to
have some spiral pens for this christmas.

Thanks,

Steve

On Jun 14, 4:16 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any
 fly to pieces
 I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I
 set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the
 depth stop on the router
 and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them
 first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope 
 bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo
 Bill

 - Original Message -
 From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  Good morning Cole
  I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
  Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
  possible.
  I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
  normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very
  light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
  I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a
  smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
  cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference?
  At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
  shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get
  stright cut or tappered pens.
  On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on
  there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need
  to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
  As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the
  lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
  glued onto a piece of brass.
  Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take
  some more experimenting that all. ;-)
  have a good day.
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: cole coleandrew...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
  Subject: pens on the mill

  We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well
  as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height
  of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
  was worth. With a simpler style of pen  and a different style of bit
  we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too
  much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-14 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck.

Steve

On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, Cole Andrews coleandrew...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe .so 
 any lathe accessorih should fit.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37
 To: Legacy Ornamental Millslegacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small
 problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck
 that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the
 Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to
 have some spiral pens for this christmas.

 Thanks,

 Steve

 On Jun 14, 4:16 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
  I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had any
  fly to pieces
  I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble I
  set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set the
  depth stop on the router
  and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn them
  first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope 
  bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo
  Bill

  - Original Message -
  From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   Good morning Cole
   I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
   Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
   possible.
   I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
   normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take very
   light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
   I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used a
   smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
   cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any difference?
   At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
   shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get
   stright cut or tappered pens.
   On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens on
   there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that need
   to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
   As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on the
   lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
   glued onto a piece of brass.
   Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might take
   some more experimenting that all. ;-)
   have a good day.
   C.A.G.
   - Original Message -
   From: cole coleandrew...@gmail.com
   To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
   Subject: pens on the mill

   We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as well
   as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the height
   of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
   was worth. With a simpler style of pen  and a different style of bit
   we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was too
   much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-14 Thread SteveEJ
Great name for a Chuck!

Steve Jacobs.. hehe. No, I am not a relative. I have to work for a
living!

On Jun 14, 1:02 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck.  It's the same type of chuck
 that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8 capacity.  I frequently shop
 at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks 
 page:http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496. The 240-2821 would be my
 first choice.

 -Tim

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck.

 Steve

 On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, Cole Andrews coleandrew...@gmail.com wrote:
  I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe
 .so any lathe accessorih should fit.
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  -Original Message-
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37
  To: Legacy Ornamental Millslegacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small
  problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck
  that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the
  Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to
  have some spiral pens for this christmas.

  Thanks,

  Steve

  On Jun 14, 4:16 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
   I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had
 any
   fly to pieces
   I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no trouble
 I
   set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and set
 the
   depth stop on the router
   and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn
 them
   first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope
 bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo
   Bill

   - Original Message -
   From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM
   Subject: Re: pens on the mill

Good morning Cole
I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember a
Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it is
possible.
I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy, I
normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take
 very
light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and used
 a
smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and try
cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
 difference?
At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get different
shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get
stright cut or tappered pens.
On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice pens
 on
there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks that
 need
to be learned to get a better quality product made form your machine?
As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on
 the
lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin wood
glued onto a piece of brass.
Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might
 take
some more experimenting that all. ;-)
have a good day.
C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: cole coleandrew...@gmail.com
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: pens on the mill

We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as
 well
as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the
 height
of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit
we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was
 too
much chatter from the bit.

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Re: pens on the mill

2010-06-14 Thread SteveEJ
Yea.. Funny stuff. When they were sending out golden forks and spoons
I got a pack of plastic ones.. I bet I appreciate what I have more
than they do! I either had to make it or save for it. Either way was
good for me!

Steve

On Jun 14, 4:46 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Boy isn't that ironic :-)  I know a Tupper of the Tupperware fame but he
 works for a living too!

 -Tim

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Great name for a Chuck!

 Steve Jacobs.. hehe. No, I am not a relative. I have to work for a
 living!

 On Jun 14, 1:02 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
  The Revo uses a 3/8 - 24 threaded Jacobs chuck. It's the same type of
 chuck
  that works on hand drills that have up to 3/8 capacity. I frequently shop
  at Enco, and here's a link to the chucks
 page:http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=496. The 240-2821 would be my
  first choice.

  -Tim

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: pens on the mill

  Thanks Cole but the Revo is different. It uses a threaded chuck.

  Steve

  On Jun 14, 12:29 pm, Cole Andrews coleandrew...@gmail.com wrote:
   I don't know the revo but the900 use a number 2 Morse taper like a lathe
  .so any lathe accessorih should fit.
   Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

   -Original Message-
   From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
   Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:37
   To: Legacy Ornamental Millslegacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: pens on the mill

   Hey guys.. I am going to do some pens on my Revo but I have a small
   problem.. No chuck! Is the chuck for the Revo a standard thread/chuck
   that I can buy from a supplier? I guess I will have to try and get the
   Gear Reduction unit as well. I turn pens on my lathe but would like to
   have some spiral pens for this christmas.

   Thanks,

   Steve

   On Jun 14, 4:16 am, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
I have made pens on my revo ok without any trouble cant say I have had
  any
fly to pieces
I turn them down first before cutting the spiral and have had no
 trouble
  I
set the depth off the sleeve (on mine they are all the same dia) and
 set
  the
depth stop on the router
and off I go. see here this is pretty much how I do it accept I turn
  them
first with the bottoming bit to save my little rope
  bithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQ-nuDipUo
Bill

- Original Message -
From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: pens on the mill

 Good morning Cole
 I've not tried to turn pens on the Legacy before, but I do remember
 a
 Legacy's model 200, which was made to do exactly that. So I know it
 is
 possible.
 I personally find that when turning small/thin objects on my Legacy,
 I
 normally need to use a steady rest to support the wood and to take
  very
 light cuts, to stop the vibration problem.
 I was just wondering what would happen if you made a template and
 used
  a
 smaller straight cutter (lets say 1/2 or smaller router bit) and
 try
 cutting from the side,instead of the top, if it would make any
  difference?
 At least by cutting from the side, you would be able to get
 different
 shapes where by cutting form the top you would only be able to get
 stright cut or tappered pens.
 On Legacy web site there are people who have made some very nice
 pens
  on
 there machines, I cant help but to wonder if there is any tricks
 that
  need
 to be learned to get a better quality product made form your
 machine?
 As far as one of your pens exploding, I've had that happen to me on
  the
 lathe as well, I just figured that the nature of the beast, thin
 wood
 glued onto a piece of brass.
 Don't give up on your goal, I believe you can do it! It just might
  take
 some more experimenting that all. ;-)
 have a good day.
 C.A.G.
 - Original Message -
 From: cole coleandrew...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
  legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:24 PM
 Subject: pens on the mill

 We tried turning some pens on the mill today, did not turn out as
  well
 as it could have. One of the blanks exploded . Also setting the
  height
 of all different bushings on the mandrel was more of a pain than it
 was worth. With a simpler style of pen and a different style of bit
 we could set the height easier and cut smoother. I think there was
  too
 much chatter from the bit.

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Re: Wider is Better

2010-05-27 Thread SteveEJ
I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim..

Steve

On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 I would like to get some input.   I'm thinking about widening my machine.   
 Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much?  I'm thinking 3-6.

 I also have a need for more travel on the bed.  Would anyone be interested in 
 a leg lift kit?  I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good.  

 Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about 
 sharing your thoughts.  

 -Tim

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Re: Wider is Better

2010-05-27 Thread SteveEJ
I'd love to be able to handle 24 inches on the Y-Axis. Leaving the A-
Axis position where it is would be OK too. Maybe some brackets to
extend the YAxis that bolt to the existing system? Just a thought..

Steve

On May 27, 5:21 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 But how much wider Steve?

 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Wider is Better

 I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim..

 Steve

 On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
  I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine.
 Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking
 3-6.

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I got lucky today!

2010-05-14 Thread SteveEJ
No.. Not how you think! haha.. No new Legacy!! hahahaha  Got ya..

I am in Philadelphia, PA for business and remembered that Penn State
Industries was supposed to be in the area. I decided to go by and see
what they had. Well, to my surprise, Penn State and MLCS are two
businesses in the same building! As I was looking around I found the
fancy dovetail jig here:
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages...
Now, I have one on the way to the house.. Legacy for turnings,
CarveWright for relief carvings, Joinery Jig for nice joints and the
Revo for fun! Now all I need is more time home.. Ahhh that would be
nice!

Happy Chip making,

Steve

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Re: All Spam messages have been killed!

2010-03-08 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Tim. I hate Spam!

BTW.. I just got around to installing the TK Height adjustment. It
will make things a lot easier!

Steve

On Mar 8, 12:09 pm, Art Ransom akran...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 With the cemo and radiation let's please not talk about crap.  Now to get my 
 password for my site so Tim can take over the Legacy portion.  



   - Original Message -
   From: Bill Bulkeley
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:32 AM
   Subject: Re: All Spam messages have been killed!

   good job Tim no more crap comming through my emails
   Bill
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     To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
     Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:56 PM
     Subject: All Spam messages have been killed!

     Hello All,

     I have taken over the responsibility of keeping this group spam free.  I 
 have deleted all of the spam postings that I found.  I have also deleted some 
 message threads that were of the For Sale nature and generic Happy 
 Holiday type of messages.  This should make the archived messages a little 
 easier to look through.

     In order to prevent any future spam, I have made a change to new members 
 status.  As of today, all new members posts are moderated.  Once I know the 
 member is a valid user they will be free to post messages.  This should cut 
 down on the level of spam without enacting a fully private membership.  

     -Tim

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Re: Unknown Parts

2010-02-20 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Bill.. Looks like a strange tool. Useful in some cases.

Steve

On Feb 20, 5:36 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 here Steve I just found this while a was looking around I never got one when
 I bought my revo
 Bill



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 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Unknown Parts

 Thanks guys! Back out of town but hopefully I will be making saw dust
 before to long..

 Steve

 On Feb 15, 2:28 pm, MACSWAG davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net wrote:
  Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
  to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
  the router carriage
  but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piece of
  builders membrane with strips cut into it and stuck on either side
  with duct tape,works a treat,keep chippin,MAC.

  On Feb 15, 2:34 pm, ITwoodwork r...@micro-marketing.co.uk wrote:

   The white part is I suspect the safety guard and the metal bracket
   fits on the front of the REVO Router Tray see fig 72 page 22 of REVO
   Manual.
   Best regards
   Roger

   On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Steven Jacobs s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, the Revo arrived and I just finished assembly. Most was already
put
together so it was easy. I did watch the videos to make sure I was
doing
things correctly.

There are a few parts that I cannot figure out. They were not on
Legacys
site either.. If you know what they are and where they go I would
appreciate
it..

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Unknown Parts

2010-02-15 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks guys! Back out of town but hopefully I will be making saw dust
before to long..

Steve

On Feb 15, 2:28 pm, MACSWAG davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net wrote:
 Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
 to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
 the router carriage
 but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piece of
 builders membrane with strips cut into it and stuck on either side
 with duct tape,works a treat,keep chippin,MAC.

 On Feb 15, 2:34 pm, ITwoodwork r...@micro-marketing.co.uk wrote:



  The white part is I suspect the safety guard and the metal bracket
  fits on the front of the REVO Router Tray see fig 72 page 22 of REVO
  Manual.
  Best regards
  Roger

  On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Steven Jacobs s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

   Well, the Revo arrived and I just finished assembly. Most was already put
   together so it was easy. I did watch the videos to make sure I was doing
   things correctly.

   There are a few parts that I cannot figure out. They were not on Legacys
   site either.. If you know what they are and where they go I would 
   appreciate
   it..

   Thanks,

   Steve

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Re: Found a Revo..

2010-02-01 Thread SteveEJ
Thanks Mac. I look forward to reading and viewing all the craftsman
here. I already have a height adjustment kit from Tim, not I can get
some more knowledge from you fine folks!

Steve

On Feb 1, 2:50 pm, MACSWAG davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net wrote:
 Welcome Steve to the mad Revo owner  forum,loads of fantastic  tips
 and guidance
 in the search box,I'm a Revo owner and love its performance,so with
 two machines you should have a ball,MAC

 On Feb 1, 6:31 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:



    Hey all,
    I am not well known here but I will be checking in more.. I just
  found and made a deal on a used REVO. It is about 2 years old and
  coming in from Oregon. I wanted a smaller manual mill to go along with
  my 900/CNC. Hopefully I will be asking a lot of questions soon!

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Re: christmas

2009-12-24 Thread SteveEJ
Merry Christmas to All!
Happy Birthday Jesus!!
Steve

On Dec 24, 5:02 am, CURTIS GEORGE curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:
 Thank you Bill!
 Merry Christmas.
 C.A.G.



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 Sent: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:02:01 -0500 (EST)

 Subject: christmas

 well it's christmas eve here down under and I

 thourghrt I would take a few seconds to wish all you legacy fellows out there 
 a

 very merry christmas I hope you all have a wonderful day

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Re: Legacy site

2009-12-21 Thread SteveEJ
radman,
  I am sorry to hear about the finincial situation. There are many
folks looking for alternatives right now. I am new to this group and
have a 900/Standard CNC and am interested in something where I can do
things by hand. I do enjoy turning pens! If for some reason you do
decide to sell your REVO please contact me. I hope things turn around
for all and Merry Christmas and Gods Blessings on all!

SteveEJ

On Dec 21, 6:23 am, radman rad...@longlines.com wrote:
 Thanks Curt for the ideas and encouragement.  I gone back to over the road 
 driving and my time at home is very limited.  If I head into the shop instead 
 of spending time with the wife...you'd feel the earth shake under your feet!
 Tom



   - Original Message -
   From: curt george
   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:40 AM
   Subject: Re: Legacy site

   Hello and good morning.
   I understand what it is to need to make more money, but It would be a sad 
 day, if you were in that much need that you would need to sell your tools to 
 pay bills... Isn't there any way that you could use your tools to make some 
 more income? I mean if you find some kind of nitch that needs to be filled? I 
 know the Mike makes a very good living selling parts that he has made on his 
 wood-chuck. If nothing else you always can have a garage sale, or hit the 
 flee markets/craft shows to sell your goods?Perhaps you could offer your 
 services to a furniture restoration services to take there parts and add 
 details,like roping, fluting... stuff like that.
   If the very worst case, wasn't someone with in this group asking to buy a 
 REVO lately?
   I hope that no matter what happens. Everything will turn out Ok for you 
 Radman.
   Good luck and God Bless.

   C.A.G.
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     From: radman
     To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
     Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 10:25 PM
     Subject: Re: Legacy site

     I've got so little time that I've not been able to use my REVO in months. 
  Sadly, I may be selling it due to economic conditions in our household.
     Tom

       Would anyone be willing to take over the Legacy section of my site?  I 
 haven't had the time to post the new things members have come up with.  It 
 can be moved to your site or left on mine.  

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Re: 120 tooth gear

2009-12-15 Thread SteveEJ
Change of subject. Anyone have any info on the Revo or Revo
Craftmaster? I would be interested in buying one if I could find one
in good condition with manuals, etc. Having the 900 with the standard
CNC is good but I still want to be able to turn some smaller parts out
by hand. I really like turning pens and can use my lathe now but would
like to do some spirals with a smaller machine.

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 15, 10:40 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tim,
   I received the package. They look really good. I just had foot
 surgery so it will be a little while before I can install them but I
 can see that they will make height adjustments a lot easier.

 Thanks,

 Steve

 On Dec 8, 8:32 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:



  Tim,
    I am interested in the Height Adjustment tool(s). Email me the price
  details if you don't mind. I live in West Tennessee.

  Thanks,

  Steve

  On Dec 8, 12:46 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

   Hi All,

   A while ago, I made a gear for Curt with 120 teeth on it.  It was 
   designed to work with the .25 reduction gears to make a finer cut than 
   what legacy has to offer.  It fit just fine on Curt's machine, but it did 
   not fit my model 900.  To fit the gear to my model 900 I needed to grind 
   about a 1/4 from the slot on the pivot arm linkage.  Since I don't own 
   the .25 reduction set I decided not to go any further.  So, I would like 
   to offer my extra 120 tooth gears to anyone interested.  

   I also have a few of my TK Height Adjusting Tool still available. If your 
   not familiar with that tool, you can read about it 
   here:http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustme...

   Please contact me off list for pricing and purchasing information.

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Re: Revo

2009-12-15 Thread SteveEJ
Now thst would be very interesting..

RJR, is that the europe marketing arm of Legacy?

Steve

On Dec 15, 11:45 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Well, in theory the Revo is discontinued from Legacy. The folks at RJR are
 taking orders for the Revo model. IF a certain level is met, Andy will make
 them.  How funny would it be to have to order one from Roger in Europe to
 get one faster.

 I'm also in the market for a smaller machine.  I've actually considered
 chopping my 900 down in length.  I've also considered making a smaller
 machine from scratch that uses a smaller router.  A cross between a Revo and
 Legacy's old model 200 if you new what that looked like.  Something that has
 finer and tighter movements than the rest of Legacy's line.  Designed for
 small finer work.

 -Tim



 - Original Message -
 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: 120 tooth gear

 Change of subject. Anyone have any info on the Revo or Revo
 Craftmaster? I would be interested in buying one if I could find one
 in good condition with manuals, etc. Having the 900 with the standard
 CNC is good but I still want to be able to turn some smaller parts out
 by hand. I really like turning pens and can use my lathe now but would
 like to do some spirals with a smaller machine.

 Thanks,

 Steve

 On Dec 15, 10:40 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tim,
  I received the package. They look really good. I just had foot
  surgery so it will be a little while before I can install them but I
  can see that they will make height adjustments a lot easier.

  Thanks,

  Steve

  On Dec 8, 8:32 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

   Tim,
   I am interested in the Height Adjustment tool(s). Email me the price
   details if you don't mind. I live in West Tennessee.

   Thanks,

   Steve

   On Dec 8, 12:46 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

Hi All,

A while ago, I made a gear for Curt with 120 teeth on it. It was
 designed to work with the .25 reduction gears to make a finer cut than what
 legacy has to offer. It fit just fine on Curt's machine, but it did not fit
 my model 900. To fit the gear to my model 900 I needed to grind about a 1/4
 from the slot on the pivot arm linkage. Since I don't own the .25 reduction
 set I decided not to go any further. So, I would like to offer my extra 120
 tooth gears to anyone interested.

I also have a few of my TK Height Adjusting Tool still available. If
 your not familiar with that tool, you can read about it
 here:http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustme..
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Re: Revo

2009-12-15 Thread SteveEJ
Hopefully he will. There aren't any pictures of the discontinued
models anymore. Was the Craftmaster and Revo basically the same? Would
there be any alternatives to them made by others?

Steve

On Dec 16, 12:04 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 No, RJR studios is here in the states.  http://www.rjrstudios.com. However,
 just checking their web site, I see the Revo is now removed from their site.
 Maybe they decided to accept that the Revo is dead.

 Roger in Europe is a dealer of Legacy products. I believe he has some stock
 available on the Revos.  I bet Roger will chime in here.  I know he reads
 the list.

 -Tim



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 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Revo

 Now thst would be very interesting..

 RJR, is that the europe marketing arm of Legacy?

 Steve

 On Dec 15, 11:45 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
  Well, in theory the Revo is discontinued from Legacy. The folks at RJR are
  taking orders for the Revo model. IF a certain level is met, Andy will
 make
  them. How funny would it be to have to order one from Roger in Europe to
  get one faster.

  I'm also in the market for a smaller machine. I've actually considered
  chopping my 900 down in length. I've also considered making a smaller
  machine from scratch that uses a smaller router. A cross between a Revo
 and
  Legacy's old model 200 if you new what that looked like. Something that
 has
  finer and tighter movements than the rest of Legacy's line. Designed for
  small finer work.

  -Tim

  - Original Message -
  From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:52 PM
  Subject: Re: 120 tooth gear

  Change of subject. Anyone have any info on the Revo or Revo
  Craftmaster? I would be interested in buying one if I could find one
  in good condition with manuals, etc. Having the 900 with the standard
  CNC is good but I still want to be able to turn some smaller parts out
  by hand. I really like turning pens and can use my lathe now but would
  like to do some spirals with a smaller machine.

  Thanks,

  Steve

  On Dec 15, 10:40 pm, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
   Tim,
   I received the package. They look really good. I just had foot
   surgery so it will be a little while before I can install them but I
   can see that they will make height adjustments a lot easier.

   Thanks,

   Steve

   On Dec 8, 8:32 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

Tim,
I am interested in the Height Adjustment tool(s). Email me the price
details if you don't mind. I live in West Tennessee.

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 8, 12:46 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi All,

 A while ago, I made a gear for Curt with 120 teeth on it. It was
  designed to work with the .25 reduction gears to make a finer cut than
 what
  legacy has to offer. It fit just fine on Curt's machine, but it did not
 fit
  my model 900. To fit the gear to my model 900 I needed to grind about a
 1/4
  from the slot on the pivot arm linkage. Since I don't own the .25
 reduction
  set I decided not to go any further. So, I would like to offer my extra
 120
  tooth gears to anyone interested.

 I also have a few of my TK Height Adjusting Tool still available. If
  your not familiar with that tool, you can read about it

 here:http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustme..
  .

 Please contact me off list for pricing and purchasing information.

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Re: 120 tooth gear

2009-12-08 Thread SteveEJ
Tim,
  I am interested in the Height Adjustment tool(s). Email me the price
details if you don't mind. I live in West Tennessee.

Thanks,

Steve

On Dec 8, 12:46 am, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi All,

 A while ago, I made a gear for Curt with 120 teeth on it.  It was designed to 
 work with the .25 reduction gears to make a finer cut than what legacy has to 
 offer.  It fit just fine on Curt's machine, but it did not fit my model 900.  
 To fit the gear to my model 900 I needed to grind about a 1/4 from the slot 
 on the pivot arm linkage.  Since I don't own the .25 reduction set I decided 
 not to go any further.  So, I would like to offer my extra 120 tooth gears to 
 anyone interested.  

 I also have a few of my TK Height Adjusting Tool still available. If your not 
 familiar with that tool, you can read about it 
 here:http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustme...

 Please contact me off list for pricing and purchasing information.

 Thanks,

 -Tim

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Re: Compatible Routers

2009-09-16 Thread SteveEJ

Thanks for thje feedback. I just found a barely used PC 7518 and
considering its durability and parts availability I decided to get it.
I also bought an Eliminator Chuck for it. I have the same style of
chuck for my CarveWright and I like the ease of use and tool change.
It looks like the 7815 is a real beast!

Steve

On Sep 16, 1:54 pm, mike m...@cww97.com wrote:
 Hi,
 The 7518 is the best router another good one is the milwaukee
 3.5hp,the milwaukee is rated at more h.p but it isn't realy as
 powerful.I have both routers and like the pc better.the miwaukee needs
 to have a .03 shim to fit the the carriage Materlift sells them for
 $20 or the cover of a vinyl notebook from walmart works for 89 cents

 On Sep 16, 11:17 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hello,
    I am purchasing a 900 and was wondering what routers were
  compatible. They recommend the PC 7518 for the new Z-Axis but are
  there any others that are just as good? I would like to be able to
  shop and compare.

  Thanks,

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Re: There's Gold in them,there hills

2009-08-13 Thread SteveEJ

Try this link:
 www.woodturner.org/products/aw/howto/rose/MDFConstruction_v6[1].pdf
I was interested as well and this is what I found from a Yahoo search.

Steve

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 Can you point me to the post on the wave attachment, Being relitively
 new I am not sure what this is.3

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Re: There's Gold in them,there hills

2009-08-13 Thread SteveEJ

I am interested in the Legacy attachment as well. The plans from my
previous link were for a stand alone machine.

Steve

On Aug 13, 7:45 am, SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try this link:
  www.woodturner.org/products/aw/howto/rose/MDFConstruction_v6[1].pdf
 I was interested as well and this is what I found from a Yahoo search.

 Steve

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Re: legacy for sale or trade

2009-08-02 Thread SteveEJ

I noticed that the Revo Craft Master information has been deleted on
their site. Also, the Revo price is zero'd out. What's up with that?

Steve

On Jun 6, 8:42 pm, tita awi...@cox.net wrote:
 Hi Mac,
 I recently moved and no longer have the shop space I had.  I do mostly
 hobby stuff and the legacy is just too big for what I need now.  I do
 hope to sell it so I can get my REVO.  I know I can squeeze that into
 my little shop (garage).
 Tita

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  Hi tita,I  hope it's not a sad thing that you have to trade your
  1500,I have recently
  bought a REVO CRAFTMASTER.and unless I was into production work for a
  living
  a REVO is big enough for most turners needs,It is extremely versatile
  so good luck on your sale or exchange,you will not be disapointed,keep
  chippin, MAC.

  On Jun 5, 6:45 pm, tita awi...@cox.net wrote:

   I have a legacy model #1500 for sale.  It includes 9x48 capability,
   linear drive motor with forward and reverse, elevation stand, roller
   stand, 3HP porter cable router, eliminator chuck, split nut, approx.
   20 router bits, mounting dogs, reducing collet, index drive, live
   center, gear reduction set, rt. hand spiral drive and more.

   I would prefer to sell the whole get up for $2800.00 obo or trade the
   legacy itself for the smaller revo model.

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Re: Noobe questions..

2009-07-28 Thread SteveEJ

Rich,
  Is the rotary axis mod you speak of your own design or are there
actual printed plans for it? Does your Joe use Mach3 for control or
something else? I presume it uses stepper motors and controllers as
well? Also, does humidity have any type of adverse effect on the MFD
framing? (I presume that it is painted and sealed well).

  Thanks,

  Steve

On Jul 28, 1:45 pm, Rich Goldner rgold...@iname.com wrote:
 Actually, you will be able to handle rotary stock up to about 12 X 40 if 
 you build your rotary axis the same way I did.



 -Original Message-
 From: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 akran...@tx.rr.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:11 PM
 To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com

 Cc: SteveEJ
 Subject: Re: Noobe questions..

  How is the company to work with for service and support?  This question 
  makes it very obvious that you are new to this forum.  I am not the one to 
  answer this question because I believe that it is safe to say that I am 
  VERY!! low on Legacy's love list.  

 My sugestion is to build the Joe CNC 4by4 Hybrid and add a rotary axis.  This 
 will give you a fully functionaly CNC router and ability tt do rotary stock 
 up tp 6 by 36.  Total cost will be around $3500 which is les than the CNC 
 900 and a lot more useful machine.  

  SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

  Pens, Mouldings - both straight and curved, spindles, pilasters,
  limited jointery.

  Is it more cost effective to buy the CNC up front or get the non-CNC
  version and upgrade later? ie: will there be parts/adapters that are
  removed and not used anymore once the CNC is installed?

  How is the company to work with for service and support?

  Thanks again,

  Steve

  On Jul 27, 8:10 pm, akran...@tx.rr.com wrote:
   There are several options avaliable but most important is what do
   you wnat the machine for

    SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

  Folks,
  I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900.
There are several options available as well as a CNC upgrade. The
Legacy web site is not very informative about the CNC upgrade(s).
With money and the economy being as it is, and I am saving for the
machine I want to make sure that I make good decisions up front.
So with that in mind, is buying a 900 without the CNC upgrade
smart or would it be better if I save a little longer and get the
machine with the CNC upgrade? I don't want to but accessories and
have them obsolete as soon as I get the upgrade.
  Another concern I have is the company itself. Post purchase
service and help is a big thing for me. I may be a little gun shy
here as I bought a CarveWright and had repair issues right out of
the box. Down time really has put a damper on my enthuasiam towards the 
CarveWright.
It is working well, for now and I wanted to mix the capabilities
of each to make some unique hand down furniture, etc.
  Software requirements. Is there any software that is not
provided with the CNC upgrade that would be considered essential?
If so, how much more of an investment would that be?

 Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

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Re: Noobe questions..

2009-07-28 Thread SteveEJ

Thanks Bill, I am finind out that my dollars might be better spent
else where..

Thanks again!

Steve

On Jul 28, 6:31 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
 Hi I am from Australia and I have a legacy 900 and a revo and I wont beat
 around the bush the back up is shit from legacy according to many of the
 comments I have seen here over the last year or so.and from my point of view
 it is hard to find out anything from way down here.
 but even then as far as information goes it doesn't matter you can find out
 all you ever want to know here on this site I do.great guys on here very
 very helpful..try emailing magnate they are very good they always answer
 emails I send to them and you can buy most legacy stuff from them as well.
 as far as which machine to buy I think it all comes back to how much you got
 to spend these new cnc machines are great wish I could afford one they will
 do easily what you would have a great deal of trouble and time doing on the
 manual machines.
 and the legacy site seems to be aimed more at the cnc guys now with all the
 info they post on there
 good luck with your decision on which to buy all great machines I love em
 Bill



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 From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Noobe questions..

 Rich,
   Is the rotary axis mod you speak of your own design or are there
 actual printed plans for it? Does your Joe use Mach3 for control or
 something else? I presume it uses stepper motors and controllers as
 well? Also, does humidity have any type of adverse effect on the MFD
 framing? (I presume that it is painted and sealed well).

   Thanks,

   Steve

 On Jul 28, 1:45 pm, Rich Goldner rgold...@iname.com wrote:
  Actually, you will be able to handle rotary stock up to about 12 X 40 if
  you build your rotary axis the same way I did.

  -Original Message-
  From: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
  akran...@tx.rr.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:11 PM
  To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com

  Cc: SteveEJ
  Subject: Re: Noobe questions..

   How is the company to work with for service and support? This question
   makes it very obvious that you are new to this forum. I am not the one
   to answer this question because I believe that it is safe to say that I
   am VERY!! low on Legacy's love list.

  My sugestion is to build the Joe CNC 4by4 Hybrid and add a rotary axis.
  This will give you a fully functionaly CNC router and ability tt do rotary
  stock up tp 6 by 36. Total cost will be around $3500 which is les than
  the CNC 900 and a lot more useful machine.

   SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

   Pens, Mouldings - both straight and curved, spindles, pilasters,
   limited jointery.

   Is it more cost effective to buy the CNC up front or get the non-CNC
   version and upgrade later? ie: will there be parts/adapters that are
   removed and not used anymore once the CNC is installed?

   How is the company to work with for service and support?

   Thanks again,

   Steve

   On Jul 27, 8:10 pm, akran...@tx.rr.com wrote:
There are several options avaliable but most important is what do
you wnat the machine for

 SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Folks,
 I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900.
 There are several options available as well as a CNC upgrade. The
 Legacy web site is not very informative about the CNC upgrade(s).
 With money and the economy being as it is, and I am saving for the
 machine I want to make sure that I make good decisions up front.
 So with that in mind, is buying a 900 without the CNC upgrade
 smart or would it be better if I save a little longer and get the
 machine with the CNC upgrade? I don't want to but accessories and
 have them obsolete as soon as I get the upgrade.
 Another concern I have is the company itself. Post purchase
 service and help is a big thing for me. I may be a little gun shy
 here as I bought a CarveWright and had repair issues right out of
 the box. Down time really has put a damper on my enthuasiam towards
 the CarveWright.
 It is working well, for now and I wanted to mix the capabilities
 of each to make some unique hand down furniture, etc.
 Software requirements. Is there any software that is not
 provided with the CNC upgrade that would be considered essential?
 If so, how much more of an investment would that be?

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  Folks,
  I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900. There
are several options available as well as a CNC upgrade. The Legacy web
site is not very informative about the CNC upgrade(s). With money and
the economy being as it is, and I am saving for the machine I want to
make sure that I make good decisions up front. So with that in mind,
is buying a 900 without the CNC upgrade smart or would it be better if
I save a little longer and get the machine with the CNC upgrade? I
don't want to but accessories and have them obsolete as soon as I get
the upgrade.
  Another concern I have is the company itself. Post purchase service
and help is a big thing for me. I may be a little gun shy here as I
bought a CarveWright and had repair issues right out of the box. Down
time really has put a damper on my enthuasiam towards the CarveWright.
It is working well, for now and I wanted to mix the capabilities of
each to make some unique hand down furniture, etc.
  Software requirements. Is there any software that is not provided
with the CNC upgrade that would be considered essential? If so, how
much more of an investment would that be?

 Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

Steve Jacobs
Brighton, TN
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Re: Noobe questions..

2009-07-27 Thread SteveEJ

Pens, Mouldings - both straight and curved, spindles, pilasters,
limited jointery.

Is it more cost effective to buy the CNC up front or get the non-CNC
version and upgrade later? ie: will there be parts/adapters that are
removed and not used anymore once the CNC is installed?

How is the company to work with for service and support?

Thanks again,

Steve

On Jul 27, 8:10 pm, akran...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 There are several options avaliable but most important is what do you wnat 
 the machine for



  SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com wrote:

    Folks,
    I am new here and looking seriously at buying a Legacy 900. There
  are several options available as well as a CNC upgrade. The Legacy web
  site is not very informative about the CNC upgrade(s). With money and
  the economy being as it is, and I am saving for the machine I want to
  make sure that I make good decisions up front. So with that in mind,
  is buying a 900 without the CNC upgrade smart or would it be better if
  I save a little longer and get the machine with the CNC upgrade? I
  don't want to but accessories and have them obsolete as soon as I get
  the upgrade.
    Another concern I have is the company itself. Post purchase service
  and help is a big thing for me. I may be a little gun shy here as I
  bought a CarveWright and had repair issues right out of the box. Down
  time really has put a damper on my enthuasiam towards the CarveWright.
  It is working well, for now and I wanted to mix the capabilities of
  each to make some unique hand down furniture, etc.
    Software requirements. Is there any software that is not provided
  with the CNC upgrade that would be considered essential? If so, how
  much more of an investment would that be?

   Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  Steve Jacobs
  Brighton, TN- Hide quoted text -

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