Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Tim Ziegler]

Of course

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 6:16 PM  wrote:

> Thank you sir
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 13 February 2023 9:16 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle Drive Modification
>
>
>
> Yes and extremely well designed I might add.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM  wrote:
>
> There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the
> swing away type with
>
> A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a
> greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow
> to quite fast.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=2s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Nathaniel Bacon
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Spindle Drive Modification
>
>
>
> Saturday Feb 11, 2023
>
>
>
> To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group
>
>
>
> Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing
> over the many years.  I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by
> reading your posts.  Thank you.
>
>
>
> I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share
> their thoughts.
>
>
>
> Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model
> 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one
> model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).
>
>  I'm in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the grooved
> rail will help ensure that I do it correctly.
>
> On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic
> bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings.
>
> Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>.
>
> I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the
> spindle drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy
> model 1000.
>
>  Questions:
>
> On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would
> you recommend?
>
> On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best?
>
> Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage?
>
> Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a
> 3-phase motor and controller.  Would that be a good choice?
>
> Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about
> 6 years ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop.  I
> took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy
> – great job!
>
>  I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations
> without limits.
>
>  VR,
>
> Nathaniel Bacon
>
> Email: natba...@homail.com
>
> Vacaville, California
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RE: Spindle Drive Modification

[bulkeley]

Thank you sir 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 13 February 2023 9:16 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spindle Drive Modification

 

Yes and extremely well designed I might add.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the swing 
away type with

A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a 
greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow to 
quite fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=2s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=2s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bacon
Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Spindle Drive Modification

 

Saturday Feb 11, 2023

 

To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group

 

Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing over 
the many years.  I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by reading 
your posts.  Thank you.

 

I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share their 
thoughts.

 

Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 
(used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 
(a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).   

 I'm in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the grooved rail 
will help ensure that I do it correctly.

On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in 
the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. 

Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. 

I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle 
drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. 

 Questions:  

On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would you 
recommend? 

On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best?  

Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? 

Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a 3-phase 
motor and controller.  Would that be a good choice?

Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 
years ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop.  I took 
note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great 
job! 

 I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without 
limits. 

 VR, 

Nathaniel Bacon 

Email: natba...@homail.com <mailto:natba...@homail.com>  

Vacaville, California

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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Jeff Richmond]

Welcome to the group Nathaniel 👍Jeff from Connecticut Legacy Model 900 - ManualSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2023, at 1:23 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hello Nathaniel First off, Thank you. and Welcome to the group.The Legacy is a very good machine but there is a slight learning curve that needs to be understood.I recommend to "PLAY" with your machine a lot before trying to make anything for real.and to use "FREE" wood/ fire wood/scraps/tree clippings... Dont waist good wood on play projects that most likely will not turn out. When I am testing I try to use the same wood over and over, turning it down and then re-working the wood until it can no long be used.The questions on the motors.  The DC motor sold by Legacy is a 90v DC motor, I believe it is a Dayton? The motor is a gear motor( I use a larger motor for my machine, I had to off-set the motor to use it, where Legacy used a coupler and put the motor in line with the acme screw.)  , Max speed is something like 25-40 rpm, (I could be wrong on the rpm? but it is slow.) The DC motor controller is 110ac/90 dc, variable speed, and has a directional gear switch. Two limit switches. IN my book it is a must have tool to make the Legacy work as it was meant to work.The spindle motor dose not need to turn fast (90rpm max.)  ON My Legacy 1000ex I used a pulley and belt set-up. On my 200 I made a set of gears to mate up with the motor.3 phase power is industrial standards, It is not needed to make the Legacy work, but Use what you have/can. I have modified all my tools in the hope to get the most out of them.  I highly recommend to try to make all your tool, uniformed, That is make the set-up you use standardized, so you can switch form one machine to another with out having to use a different set-up each time. It saves time and really helps when things don't quite go as they should, (exp. sanding a part where there was some tare out...)  I have made a number of adaptors that all use Legacy's hub drive set-up.  (I think there drive hubs are the best thing since sliced bread! I use them on ALL my machines including my Shop Smith.) Also (Last note)  when turning multiple parts. use the assembly line concept when possible. Do one thing on every part, and then move on. DO NOT make one piece at a time, over and over like a CNC or an industrial machine would do.  This assembly line concept will make sure every part is the same.I am sorry for the delay of our postings today. I had to approve them before the group could see them.  You should not have any problems posting to the group after today.I hope to talk to you more in the near future.Have a good day.C.A.G.





On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM EST, Nathaniel Bacon  wrote:



Saturday February 11, 2023

To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills

I’m
new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post.  I have been reading many of the various posts and
have gathered a lot of good, important and useful information from them.  I thank all of you.

I’ve
also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot from the oldest
to the newest.

Over
the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used
but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a
brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).   

 I'm
in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the
grooved rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly.

On
the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in
the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings assemblies. 

Even
though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to voice their
comments.  

Curt:

Reference: YouTube.com video: Spindle Drive Modification (131) The Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube.I’m
impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle
drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model
1000. 

 Questions:  

On
the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you
recommend? 

On
the motor controller what brand and size would be best?  

Would
a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? 

Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller to adjust speed,
direction? The SMV frequency controller takes 125±AC input and converts it to 220±v
3-phase.  This system allows for speed and direction control.

Curt:

One
a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years
ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your
shop.  I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts
to your legacy – great job! 

 I
agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without
limits. 

 VR, 

Nathaniel
Bacon 

Email: natba...@hotmail.com / natbac...@

Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes and extremely well designed I might add.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM  wrote:

> There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the
> swing away type with
>
> A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a
> greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow
> to quite fast.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=2s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Nathaniel Bacon
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Spindle Drive Modification
>
>
>
> Saturday Feb 11, 2023
>
>
>
> To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group
>
>
>
> Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing
> over the many years.  I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by
> reading your posts.  Thank you.
>
>
>
> I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share
> their thoughts.
>
>
>
> Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model
> 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one
> model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).
>
>  I'm in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the grooved
> rail will help ensure that I do it correctly.
>
> On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic
> bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings.
>
> Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>.
>
> I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the
> spindle drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy
> model 1000.
>
>  Questions:
>
> On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would
> you recommend?
>
> On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best?
>
> Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage?
>
> Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a
> 3-phase motor and controller.  Would that be a good choice?
>
> Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about
> 6 years ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop.  I
> took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy
> – great job!
>
>  I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations
> without limits.
>
>  VR,
>
> Nathaniel Bacon
>
> Email: natba...@homail.com
>
> Vacaville, California
>
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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Tim Ziegler]

Welcome to the group Nathanial.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:23 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Nathaniel
>
> First off, Thank you. and Welcome to the group.
>
> The Legacy is a very good machine but there is a slight learning curve
> that needs to be understood.
> I recommend to "PLAY" with your machine a lot before trying to make
> anything for real.
> and to use "FREE" wood/ fire wood/scraps/tree clippings... Dont waist good
> wood on play projects that most likely will not turn out. When I am testing
> I try to use the same wood over and over, turning it down and then
> re-working the wood until it can no long be used.
>
> The questions on the motors.  The DC motor sold by Legacy is a 90v DC
> motor, I believe it is a Dayton? The motor is a gear motor
> ( I use a larger motor for my machine, I had to off-set the motor to use
> it, where Legacy used a coupler and put the motor in line with the acme
> screw.)  , Max speed is something like 25-40 rpm, (I could be wrong on the
> rpm? but it is slow.) The DC motor controller is 110ac/90 dc, variable
> speed, and has a directional gear switch. Two limit switches. IN my book it
> is a must have tool to make the Legacy work as it was meant to work.
> The spindle motor dose not need to turn fast (90rpm max.)  ON My Legacy
> 1000ex I used a pulley and belt set-up. On my 200 I made a set of gears to
> mate up with the motor.
> 3 phase power is industrial standards, It is not needed to make the Legacy
> work, but Use what you have/can.
> I have modified all my tools in the hope to get the most out of them.  I
> highly recommend to try to make all your tool, uniformed, That is make the
> set-up you use standardized, so you can switch form one machine to another
> with out having to use a different set-up each time. It saves time and
> really helps when things don't quite go as they should, (exp. sanding a
> part where there was some tare out...)  I have made a number of adaptors
> that all use Legacy's hub drive set-up.  (I think there drive hubs are the
> best thing since sliced bread! I use them on ALL my machines including my
> Shop Smith.)
> Also (Last note)  when turning multiple parts. use the assembly line
> concept when possible. Do one thing on every part, and then move on. DO NOT
> make one piece at a time, over and over like a CNC or an industrial machine
> would do.  This assembly line concept will make sure every part is the same.
>
> I am sorry for the delay of our postings today. I had to approve them
> before the group could see them.  You should not have any problems posting
> to the group after today.
>
> I hope to talk to you more in the near future.
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM EST, Nathaniel Bacon <
> natbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Saturday February 11, 2023
>
> To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills
>
> I’m new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post.  I have been reading
> many of the various posts and have gathered a lot of good, important and
> useful information from them.  I thank all of you.
>
> I’ve also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot
> from the oldest to the newest.
>
> Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model
> 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one
> model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).
>
>  I'm in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the grooved
> rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly.
>
> On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic
> bushings in the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings
> assemblies.
>
> Even though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to
> voice their comments.
>
> Curt:
>
> Reference: YouTube.com video: *Spindle Drive Modification* (131) The
> Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube
> .
>
> I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the
> spindle drive.
>
>  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000.
>
>  Questions:
>
> On the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you
> recommend?
>
> On the motor controller what brand and size would be best?
>
> Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage?
>
> Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller
> to adjust speed, direction? The SMV frequency controller takes 125±AC input
> and converts it to 220±v 3-phase.  This system allows for speed and
> direction control.
>
> Curt:
>
> One a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6
> years ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop.  I
> took note tha

RE: Spindle Drive Modification

[bulkeley]

There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the swing 
away type with

A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a 
greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow to 
quite fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
 
&t=2s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bacon
Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Spindle Drive Modification

 

Saturday Feb 11, 2023

 

To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group

 

Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing over 
the many years.  I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by reading 
your posts.  Thank you.

 

I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share their 
thoughts.

 

Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 
(used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 
(a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes).   

 I'm in the process of putting together the 1800.   The tip on the grooved rail 
will help ensure that I do it correctly.

On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in 
the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. 

Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" 
. 

I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle 
drive.  I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. 

 Questions:  

On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would you 
recommend? 

On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best?  

Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? 

Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a 3-phase 
motor and controller.  Would that be a good choice?

Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 
years ago.  I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop.  I took 
note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great 
job! 

 I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without 
limits. 

 VR, 

Nathaniel Bacon 

Email: natba...@homail.com   

Vacaville, California

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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

No problem ,,Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 2:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Thanks for sharing Bill

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 30, 2021, at 9:51 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Ok talking of spindle motors here is a short video showing with a ball bearing 
head stock you can run the spindle much faster than the feed motor to produce a 
better finish now this is a very old video its my first mill and the quality is 
not the best but hopefully you all will get the idea, smaller dia work the 
faster you can turn the work.

https://youtu.be/yNqqY547Zj8

 

Bill

 

 

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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 1:08 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

yeah I let him know, and he's going to start it as a new post. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 


 
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Curt this ones for you seeing is how you did yours not that long ago

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Hi guys,

I am wanting some advise.

Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?

I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.

Thanks in advance

Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?

We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 

and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 

ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.

You expressed my thought exactly!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the warning Bill

Rick

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
 wrote:

Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 

Re: Spindle drive

[Jeff Richmond]

Thanks for sharing Bill

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 9:51 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok talking of spindle motors here is a short video showing with a ball 
> bearing head stock you can run the spindle much faster than the feed motor to 
> produce a better finish now this is a very old video its my first mill and 
> the quality is not the best but hopefully you all will get the idea, smaller 
> dia work the faster you can turn the work.
> https://youtu.be/yNqqY547Zj8
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 1:08 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> yeah I let him know, and he's going to start it as a new post. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> 
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
>  
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:43 PM  wrote:
> Curt this ones for you seeing is how you did yours not that long ago
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 10:24 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
> of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both 
> the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
> going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is 
> a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>  
> 
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> Tim,
> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior 
> to reading this comment from you.
> You expressed my thought exactly!
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
> 
>  
> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>  
> Thanks for the warning Bill
> Rick
>  
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
> too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
> headstock to drive it fast
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>  
> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
> pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
> motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the 
> work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few 
> nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I 
> loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. 
> Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any 
> problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live 
> center. 
> Jack Terry
> Covington La
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hello there Jack
>  
> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
> told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
> form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>  
> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
> pulley. The drive motor dose not need to tur

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure. All sounds like good info to me.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:21 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Yes - and you are already doing that.  LoL!
>
> A second approach - if you couldn't or didn't want to make a longer Y-axis
> would be to just do it on the Y-axis - while putting the linear rails on
> top of the X-axis rails.  This second way would cut your loss of depth of
> throw in half.
>
> Keep us posted as to how it turns out. 😃
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 7:27 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Nice thoughts Mac,
> that would then create a need for your carriage to be modified to then
> right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill):
>>
>> How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces
>> of the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the
>> rail extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.
>> Then mount the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
>>
>> That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the
>> original standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis
>> extrusions, you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning
>> stock.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>>
>> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding
>> this “upgrade” better.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I am wanting some advise.
>> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
>> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
>> on both the x and y axis?
>> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
>> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
>> LOM is a 900.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Denson Ingram
>>
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
>> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
>> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
>> companies will
>> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>>
>>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Fores

Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Yes - and you are already doing that.  LoL!
A second approach - if you couldn't or didn't want to make a longer Y-axis 
would be to just do it on the Y-axis - while putting the linear rails on top of 
the X-axis rails.  This second way would cut your loss of depth of throw in 
half.
Keep us posted as to how it turns out. 😃
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Nice thoughts Mac, that would then create a need for your carriage to be 
modified to then right?
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
 
Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill): 
How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces of 
the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the rail 
extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.   Then mount 
the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the original 
standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis extrusions, 
you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning stock.
 
Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Thanks for asking this Denson,  
I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Hi guys,I am wanting some advise.
Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?
I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.
Thanks in advance
Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:


Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?We do a lot of shipping 
and receiving here for the business, 
and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Tim,
I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.
You expressed my thought exactly!
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings BilllKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
 
Thanks for the warning Bill
Rick

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) 
wrote:


Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive


 
Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 
Jack Terry

Covington La
Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello there Jack

 

The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
form one machine to another with out having to change anything.

 

The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
needs to turn,

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Curt agreed to start a separate post for this discussion so you'll hear
from him tonight later.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
>>> have a live center.
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>>
>>> Covington La
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello there Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.
>>> I was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to
>>> the pulley. The drive motor do

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Nice thoughts Mac,
that would then create a need for your carriage to be modified to then
right?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:08 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
>
>
>
> Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill):
>
> How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces
> of the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the
> rail extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.
> Then mount the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
>
> That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the
> original standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis
> extrusions, you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning
> stock.
>
>
>
> Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

I could probably text Curt and see if he can do it when he gets home.
Might be a bit later then everyone is still up at. but will be worth it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks for asking this Denson,
>
> I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this
> “upgrade” better.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and
> don’ts of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage
> on both the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router
> is going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My
> LOM is a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business,
> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the
> companies will
> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) -
>> prior to reading this comment from you.
>>
>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant
>>> drive it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings
>>> in your headstock to drive it fast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jack Terry
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
>>> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
>>> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
>>> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
>>> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
>>> have a live center.
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>>
>>> Covington La
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello there Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.
>>> I was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you
>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the moto

Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Appears a concern is the sacrificing of depth of throw in the Z-axis.
 
Thinking a little outside of the box (Mill): 
How about mounting a piece of aluminum 90º angle stock to the outer faces of 
the X-axis and Y-axis rails - with one face of the 90º stock against the rail 
extrusion and the other face extending outward on the upper side.   Then mount 
the linear rails to the top of the 90º faces.
That should keep both the X and Y axis' down at a level close to the original 
standoff.  By putting the angle stock to the outside of the X-axis extrusions, 
you are preserving the original max diameter for the turning stock.
 
Just a thought - has anyone tried it?
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 30, 2021 6:39 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Thanks for asking this Denson,  
I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:


Hi guys,I am wanting some advise.
Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both the 
x and y axis?
I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is a 
900.
Thanks in advance
Denson Ingram

Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:


Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?We do a lot of shipping 
and receiving here for the business, 
and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies will 
ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Tim,
I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior to 
reading this comment from you.
You expressed my thought exactly!
Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings BilllKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
 
Thanks for the warning Bill
Rick

On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) 
wrote:


Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive


 
Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 
Jack Terry

Covington La
Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello there Jack

 

The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
form one machine to another with out having to change anything.

 

The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so it will mesh 
with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is all that holds the 
to together. 

I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need 
anything fancy. I've made a number of 

different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a few 
years back.

 

I hope this helps?

 

C.A.G.


On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry  wrote: 

 

 

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding a

Re: Spindle drive

[Jeff Richmond]

Thanks for asking this Denson, 

I also have a 900 model and would be very interested in understanding this 
“upgrade” better.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> I am wanting some advise.
> Would someone be willing to start a new thread explaining the do’s and don’ts 
> of putting linear rails and bearings to support the router carriage on both 
> the x and y axis?
> I know the general gist but am having trouble visualizing how the router is 
> going to work after being raised several inches higher than normal. My LOM is 
> a 900.
> Thanks in advance
> Denson Ingram
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:50 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Oops, I guess better twice then not at all right Mac?
>> We do a lot of shipping and receiving here for the business, 
>> and at times I order in picture frame material and some of the companies 
>> will 
>> ask about the lengths and most will just only ship like 9 ft. I think. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:09 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>> Tim,
>>> I posted a comment about what you just said below (~20 minutes ago) - prior 
>>> to reading this comment from you.
>>> You expressed my thought exactly!
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:03 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>  
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>  
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for the warning Bill
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive 
>>>> it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in 
>>>> your headstock to drive it fast
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>>>  On Behalf Of Jack Terry
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a 
>>>> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one 
>>>> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to 
>>>> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we 
>>>> have a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below 
>>>> freezing and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be 
>>>> protected from freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center 
>>>> tailstock. Do you have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy 
>>>> tailstock or do you have a live center. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jack Terry
>>>> 
>>>> Covington La
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Hello there Jack
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I 
>>>> was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you 
>>>> can go form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to 
>>>> the pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the 
>>>&g

Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Well close up pics or video might help but I'm not a video guy and all my
video
or picture helpers are either grown up and gone or in college but at least
to see
it can be done.
Wish the LOM group would have made the plates interchangeable between
models.
then we would not have had to re-invent the wheel. lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:36 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Good info.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> I am sure others in our Group will find your info useful.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 6:56 AM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Hey Mac,
>
> Yes I had my Brother do it for me.
> I could have used a hole saw but you and I know how that
> can turn out to look like. I had some flat stock but was not
> has heavy has I wanted. Was looking for 3/16 Ted (my Brother) had
> 1/4 so we went with that. I'm still going to cut the angle like LOM did
> I just wanted to get it up and running last night.
> I still had to drill and slot the actual mounting hole to attach it to the
> LOM
> as the pattern I used from the 1500 was different of course.
> I just drilled 2 holes and then proceeded to tip the piece in to the bit
> to
> slot it so to speak and then cleaned it up.
> Cost? I'll laser engrave something for him. :)
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Very nice.
>>
>> How did you get that very clean looking large hole in the steel plate?
>>
>> Did your brother do it for you?
>>
>> Where did you get the steel plate?   Cost?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 28, 2021 10:51 PM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>>
>>
>> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
>>
>>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
>>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
>>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
>>> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
>>> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
>>> drive
>>>
>>> Jack Terry
>>> Covington La.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Mac you made a great point. I was actually just talking to Mike Pung about
that very subject.
It would be great to have a recipe to the details for that process. Also
just changing bearings.
I changed mine out on my 1200 a few months ago and yes it went fine
because of my past back
ground, diy ect but not everyone has that knowledge. Good call.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:33 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Hi guys (and gals/Brigitte),
>
>
>
> Tim & Bill - you bring up a good point.
>
> The LOM headstock with the ball bearing spindle support is very nice.  Too
> bad Legacy doesn't still produce them.
>
> Has anyone ever posted the "recipe" for how one goes about replacing their
> headstock's plastic bearing sleeve with a ball bearing one?
>
> By that I mean - from start to finish - including the very pieces you
> order (and from whom you get them) and how to cut, drill, tap, etc. in
> order to install the new ball bearing spindle support.
>
> Just a thought  - since we have a fair number of new Group members and
> some may want to "upgrade" their spindle.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> ----------
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:
>
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>
> To:
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> I tend to agree with you on that one. Kind Regards, Timothy J.
> ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN
> 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:55 PM wrote:Ask curt to show his he put nice
> bearings on his to replace the Delrin ones, I haven’t done that yet I just
> make my own replacement ones as I need them. keeping them lubricated with
> dry lube with every job helps a lot too, legacys ball bearing headstocks
> were good I had them on my first mill before it burnt down that’s another
> part I would buy if it came up.
>
> You put a heavy 6 or 8 ft pole in your mill and that’s a lot of pressure
> pushing down on those soft Delrin bushes they need to be nice and slippery
> or better still ball bearings but that is just my opinion of course.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:03 PM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley wrote:
>
> Thanks for the warning Bill
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote:
>
>
>
> Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive
> it too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in
> your headstock to drive it fast
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Jack Terry
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
>
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a
> large pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one
> using a motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to
> spin the work for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have
> a few nights in South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing
> and I loose my garage workshop  to plant that have to be protected from
> freezing. Also I noted the discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you
> have any problems with the work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you
> have a live center.
>
> Jack Terry
>
> Covington La
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello there Jack
>
>
>
> The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I
> was told by a friend of mine, to keep everything

Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,
Good info.
Thanks for sharing.
I am sure others in our Group will find your info useful.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 6:56 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Hey Mac, 
Yes I had my Brother do it for me. 
I could have used a hole saw but you and I know how that 
can turn out to look like. I had some flat stock but was not 
has heavy has I wanted. Was looking for 3/16 Ted (my Brother) had
1/4 so we went with that. I'm still going to cut the angle like LOM did
I just wanted to get it up and running last night. 
I still had to drill and slot the actual mounting hole to attach it to the LOM
as the pattern I used from the 1500 was different of course. 
I just drilled 2 holes and then proceeded to tip the piece in to the bit to 
slot it so to speak and then cleaned it up. 
Cost? I'll laser engrave something for him. :)Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Tim,
Very nice.
How did you get that very clean looking large hole in the steel plate?
Did your brother do it for you?
Where did you get the steel plate?   Cost?
Cheers!
Mac
 

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 28, 2021 10:51 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOMKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Hi guys (and gals/Brigitte),
 
Tim & Bill - you bring up a good point.
The LOM headstock with the ball bearing spindle support is very nice.  Too bad 
Legacy doesn't still produce them.
Has anyone ever posted the "recipe" for how one goes about replacing their 
headstock's plastic bearing sleeve with a ball bearing one?
By that I mean - from start to finish - including the very pieces you order 
(and from whom you get them) and how to cut, drill, tap, etc. in order to 
install the new ball bearing spindle support.
Just a thought  - since we have a fair number of new Group members and some may 
want to "upgrade" their spindle.
Cheers!
Mac
-Original Message-
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Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
I tend to agree with you on that one. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler 
WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 
shop320-630-2243 cell
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:55 PM wrote:Ask curt to show his he put nice bearings 
on his to replace the Delrin ones, I haven’t done that yet I just make my own 
replacement ones as I need them. keeping them lubricated with dry lube with 
every job helps a lot too, legacys ball bearing headstocks were good I had them 
on my first mill before it burnt down that’s another part I would buy if it 
came up.
You put a heavy 6 or 8 ft pole in your mill and that’s a lot of pressure 
pushing down on those soft Delrin bushes they need to be nice and slippery or 
better still ball bearings but that is just my opinion of course.
 
Bill
 
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Then you'll have to show him how to add bearings Billl
Kind Regards,
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
 
 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:28 PM Rick Hutley wrote:
Thanks for the warning Bill
Rick
 
 
 
On Nov 29, 2021, at 11:35, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) 
wrote:
 
Be careful if your mill only has Delrin bushes for bearings you cant drive it 
too fast or you will burn out your bearings you need ball bearings in your 
headstock to drive it fast
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Thanks for the photos of your spindle drive. I’ll start looking for a large 
pulley and motor. Your method appears less complicated than the one using a 
motor drive and gears. I don’t need a Mercedes just something to spin the work 
for sanding. Whatever I do it needs to be soon before we have a few nights in 
South Louisiana when the temperature falls below freezing and I loose my garage 
workshop  to plant that have to be protected from freezing. Also I noted the 
discussion about a live center tailstock. Do you have any problems with the 
work spinning on the Legacy tailstock or do you have a live center. 
Jack Terry
Covington La
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On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
 
Hello there Jack
 
The Legacy drive hub on your lathe is a good idea. One that I live by.  I was 
told by a friend of mine, to keep everything uniformed, that way you can go 
form one machine to another with out having to change anything.
 
The spindle drive motor I have is hinged and gravity holds the motor to the 
pulley. The drive motor dose not need to turn fast, 80 rpm is the fastest is 
needs to turn, The  pulley needs to have a slot cut into it, so it will mesh 
with the Legacy's headstock spindle. I 5/16" thumb screw is all that holds the 
to together. 
I made a pulley out of wood before I found this large one. You don't need 
anything fancy. I've made a number of 
different adaptors over the years, including a wooden Legacy adaptor a few 
years back.
 
I hope this helps?
 
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 07:24:52 PM EST, Jack Terry wrote:
 
 
Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive
 
Jack Terry
Covington La.
 
 
 
 
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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Here is one of yours Tim https://www.ebay.com/itm/313666590926?epid=14012070090 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/313666590926?epid=14012070090&_trkparms> &_trkparms

 

Like I said how much are you willing to pay

 

Here is one I used useing the legacy index gears as well 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165142888357?hash=item2673487fa5:g:TSEAAOSw491hcqqu

 

There out there like I said

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:47 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Hey Rick is this what your looking for or are you looking at Bill and or Curts 
set up?

Grainger has these but the are like $500-$600


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:37 AM Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow. That looks like one heck of a drive motor/gearbox assembly! What are the 
SoECS on the motor you used?

 

Rick





On Nov 28, 2021, at 22:51, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

[Rick Hutley]

Wow. That looks like one heck of a drive motor/gearbox assembly! What are the 
SoECS on the motor you used?

Rick

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 22:51, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a 
>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I 
>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the 
>> hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very 
>> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle 
>> drive
>> 
>> Jack Terry
>> Covington La.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah I think we'll give it a try. Be nice to get this magazine to you.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:05 AM  wrote:

> Might not be as silly as it sounds a go fund me might work I can put $20
> into it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 10:47 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> I know right and that has not changed.
>
> Pretty sad. I'm still not done trying to figure out a way to
>
> get that with out it costing you and I and arm and leg.
>
> Maybe I should do a Post fundraiser lol.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:01 PM  wrote:
>
> Same motor just looks bigger because its back further. We have to go with
> what we can get
>
> There is nearly always a motor on ebay its just how much you want to pay
> its over for me know postage cost is impossible to me now. $70 postage for
> a $5 magazine finished it for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:30 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> It looks fabulous I have to agree. Looks like you used a bigger motor now
> too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Very Nice. Bill!
>
> I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:09:24 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Might not be as silly as it sounds a go fund me might work I can put $20 into 
it 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 10:47 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

I know right and that has not changed. 

Pretty sad. I'm still not done trying to figure out a way to 

get that with out it costing you and I and arm and leg. 

Maybe I should do a Post fundraiser lol.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:01 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Same motor just looks bigger because its back further. We have to go with what 
we can get

There is nearly always a motor on ebay its just how much you want to pay its 
over for me know postage cost is impossible to me now. $70 postage for a $5 
magazine finished it for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:30 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

It looks fabulous I have to agree. Looks like you used a bigger motor now too?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Very Nice. Bill!

I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:09:24 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac,

Yes I had my Brother do it for me.
I could have used a hole saw but you and I know how that
can turn out to look like. I had some flat stock but was not
has heavy has I wanted. Was looking for 3/16 Ted (my Brother) had
1/4 so we went with that. I'm still going to cut the angle like LOM did
I just wanted to get it up and running last night.
I still had to drill and slot the actual mounting hole to attach it to the
LOM
as the pattern I used from the 1500 was different of course.
I just drilled 2 holes and then proceeded to tip the piece in to the bit to
slot it so to speak and then cleaned it up.
Cost? I'll laser engrave something for him. :)
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Very nice.
>
> How did you get that very clean looking large hole in the steel plate?
>
> Did your brother do it for you?
>
> Where did you get the steel plate?   Cost?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-----
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> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: Spindle drive
>
>
> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
>
>> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
>> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
>> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
>> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
>> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
>> drive
>>
>> Jack Terry
>> Covington La.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:08 PM  wrote:

> Ok sigh, I have to do everything lol
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80&t=6s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:31 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Great I best look a bit closer at that too.
>
> Did you attach the link or go to your youtube channel?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:24 PM  wrote:
>
> Yep Tim that’s where I got the idea I like it better than belts and by
> changing index gears I get many different speeds with a variable control.
> If you look at the leadscrew motor on my revo it literally is a woodchuck
> spindle motor modified to fit my revo. I have a video on it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 2:58 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great.
>
> Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive.
>
> Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM  wrote:
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

thats what makes you so special Bill. thanks
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:08 PM  wrote:

> Ok sigh, I have to do everything lol
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80&t=6s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:31 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Great I best look a bit closer at that too.
>
> Did you attach the link or go to your youtube channel?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:24 PM  wrote:
>
> Yep Tim that’s where I got the idea I like it better than belts and by
> changing index gears I get many different speeds with a variable control.
> If you look at the leadscrew motor on my revo it literally is a woodchuck
> spindle motor modified to fit my revo. I have a video on it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 2:58 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great.
>
> Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive.
>
> Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM  wrote:
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

I know right and that has not changed.
Pretty sad. I'm still not done trying to figure out a way to
get that with out it costing you and I and arm and leg.
Maybe I should do a Post fundraiser lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:01 PM  wrote:

> Same motor just looks bigger because its back further. We have to go with
> what we can get
>
> There is nearly always a motor on ebay its just how much you want to pay
> its over for me know postage cost is impossible to me now. $70 postage for
> a $5 magazine finished it for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:30 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> It looks fabulous I have to agree. Looks like you used a bigger motor now
> too?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Very Nice. Bill!
>
> I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:09:24 PM EST, 
> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
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Re: Spindle drive

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,
Very nice.
How did you get that very clean looking large hole in the steel plate?
Did your brother do it for you?
Where did you get the steel plate?   Cost?
Cheers!
Mac
 
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 28, 2021 10:51 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive
 
Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOMKind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Ok sigh, I have to do everything lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80&t=6s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=6s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:31 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Great I best look a bit closer at that too. 

Did you attach the link or go to your youtube channel?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:24 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yep Tim that’s where I got the idea I like it better than belts and by changing 
index gears I get many different speeds with a variable control. If you look at 
the leadscrew motor on my revo it literally is a woodchuck spindle motor 
modified to fit my revo. I have a video on it

 

Bill

 

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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 2:58 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great. 

Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive. 

Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Same motor just looks bigger because its back further. We have to go with what 
we can get

There is nearly always a motor on ebay its just how much you want to pay its 
over for me know postage cost is impossible to me now. $70 postage for a $5 
magazine finished it for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:30 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

It looks fabulous I have to agree. Looks like you used a bigger motor now too?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Very Nice. Bill!

I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.

 

C.A.G.

 

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Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


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Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Great I best look a bit closer at that too.
Did you attach the link or go to your youtube channel?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:24 PM  wrote:

> Yep Tim that’s where I got the idea I like it better than belts and by
> changing index gears I get many different speeds with a variable control.
> If you look at the leadscrew motor on my revo it literally is a woodchuck
> spindle motor modified to fit my revo. I have a video on it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 2:58 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great.
>
> Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive.
>
> Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM  wrote:
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

It looks fabulous I have to agree. Looks like you used a bigger motor now
too?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Very Nice. Bill!
> I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:09:24 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Yep Tim that’s where I got the idea I like it better than belts and by changing 
index gears I get many different speeds with a variable control. If you look at 
the leadscrew motor on my revo it literally is a woodchuck spindle motor 
modified to fit my revo. I have a video on it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 2:58 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great. 

Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive. 

Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


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Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Very Nice. Bill!I think yours looks better then Legacy's did.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:09:24 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


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Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill yes we may have to talk more about that.
I'm going to attempt to find material now to make the head and tail stock
brackets. too.
I'm going to have to post a bunch of pix now and get this more complete.
I ran some tests on it tonight too. So I got to play a fair amount today.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

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On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:02 PM  wrote:

> Nice Tim a small note don’t forget to leave enough room for table nuts to
> be added or removed you never know when you might have to add them to the
> mill
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 2:51 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Spindle drive
>
>
>
> Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry  wrote:
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> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
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>
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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Nice Tim a small note don’t forget to leave enough room for table nuts to be 
added or removed you never know when you might have to add them to the mill

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 2:51 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: Spindle drive

 

Here is what I just did today. for my HYBRID LOM


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:24 PM Jack Terry mailto:jterry8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle drive

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow Bill you got that all painted up and working super great.
Works on the principle of my WoodChucks spindle drive.
Sorry my post earlier was just adding a acme thread drive.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:26 PM  wrote:

> Welcome to the group jack
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
> Bill
>
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> -Original Message-
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> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jack Terry
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Spindle drive
>
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with
> the hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle
> drive
>
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
>
>
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Re: Spindle drive

[Rick Hutley]

I’m looking into that too, Jack (I have a 900)

Rick

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 19:24, Jack Terry  wrote:
> 
> Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a 
> drive motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I 
> ordered a new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the 
> hub for sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very 
> useful. I checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive
> 
> Jack Terry
> Covington La.
> 
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RE: Spindle drive

[bulkeley]

Welcome to the group jack 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs&t=292s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

Bill


-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jack Terry
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Spindle drive

Saw your note recommending a spindle drive for the LoM. How do you add a drive 
motor to the 1200. Before I moved I had a lathe with a 3 jar chuck. I ordered a 
new hub from legacy and simply moved my work to the lathe with the hub for 
sanding and other details. A spindle drive motor wound be very useful. I 
checked the archives but I didn’t see anything about a spindle drive

Jack Terry
Covington La.




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Re: Spindle Drive set up.

[Rocky92585]

Man this sit is so cool!!! I gots to get me one of them!  You probably 
thought about this but you could use a photo laser tachometer to verify 
your rpms, I use one on my lathe and it works great.  Just be careful with 
the import stuff, some of them are garbage.  Thanks for the pictures.

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 3:58:45 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. 
> This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about 
> it,  So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.)
>
> This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy,  
> Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form 
>  Legacy, all those years ago.
>
> You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.)  
>
> You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is
> a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the 
> side of the spindle.)
>
> What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
> spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept.
>
> I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the 
> spindle twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a 
> much better/cleaner cut.
>
> The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed,  ( a 
> 110 AC motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? 
> but its much slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster 
> than what the Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.)
>
> If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are 
> cheaper to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out 
> how they work. 
>
> You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the 
> more RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just 
> that easy.
>
> Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, 
> and makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier...  
>
> AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But 
> it will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set 
> it dose make your roping and fluting better as well.
>
> You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this 
> modification. Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the 
> woodchuck, and not the Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and 
> then they never talked about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!!
>
> OK I'm done with my rant now! 
> If  all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message 
> . 
> I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,)  ;-)
>
> I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Spindle Drive set up.

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Glad to hear that ! 
I wish you luck on your retirement. 
Let us know how it all turns out. ;-) 
C.A.G. 

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From: "Michael Kratky"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:56:00 AM 
Subject: RE: Spindle Drive set up. 



Hey Curtis and fixed income woodworkers and turners everywhere, 



Selling the General was condition of buying the Powermatic per my wife so now 
that I’m officially retiring in 3 days she’s says it time it goes besides I 
also have a Jet 1220. 




Michael P. Kratky 









From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Spindle Drive set up. 





Hey Michael 


The Legacy and the lathe work very well together. 


Chose wisely. on what you are willing to get rid of. Both the Powermatic and 
the General have there own strong points. 


Mike Pung told me a long time ago. Make sure all your tools are 
inter-change-able, this way you do not have to change anything, when switching 
form one machine to the other and then back in the process of doing a job. 





C.A.G. 
- Original Message -



From: "Michael Kratky" < krat...@roadrunner.com > 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:11:36 PM 
Subject: RE: Spindle Drive set up. 





Curtis, 



I like it, now all I need to do is sell my extra General 26020 VD Canadian made 
wood lathe to make room in the shop for the 1200 LOM which I had to put in 
storage to make room for the Powermatic 4224B I bought 2 ½ years ago, anyone 
near upstate NY I’ll make you a deal. 




Michael P. Kratky 









From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:59 PM 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Subject: Spindle Drive set up. 





Hello Everyone. 


This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it, 
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.) 





This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy, 


Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form 
Legacy, all those years ago. 





You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.) 





You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is 


a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.) 





What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept. 





I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut. 





The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed, ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.) 





If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 





You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy. 





Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier... 





AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well. 





You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!! 





OK I'm done with my rant now! 


If all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 


I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,) ;-) 





I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 





Have a good night everyone. 


C.A.G. 





























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RE: Spindle Drive set up.

[Michael Kratky]

Hey Curtis and fixed income woodworkers and turners everywhere,

 

Selling the General was condition of buying the Powermatic per my wife so now 
that I’m officially retiring in 3 days she’s says it time it goes besides I 
also have a Jet 1220.

 

Michael P. Kratky

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:39 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spindle Drive set up.

 

Hey Michael

The Legacy and the lathe work very well together. 

Chose wisely. on what you are willing to get rid of.  Both the Powermatic and 
the General have there own strong points.

Mike Pung told me a long time ago. Make sure all your tools are 
inter-change-able, this way you do not have to change anything, when switching 
form one machine to the other and then back in the process of doing a job.

 

C.A.G.

  _  

From: "Michael Kratky" 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:11:36 PM
Subject: RE: Spindle Drive set up.

 

Curtis,

 

I like it, now all I need to do is sell my extra General 26020 VD Canadian made 
wood lathe to make room in the shop for the 1200 LOM which I had to put in 
storage to make room for the Powermatic 4224B  I bought 2 ½  years ago, anyone 
near upstate NY I’ll make you a deal.

 

Michael P. Kratky

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:59 PM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills
Subject: Spindle Drive set up.

 

Hello Everyone. 

This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it,  
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.)

 

This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy,  

Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form  
Legacy, all those years ago.

 

You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.)  

 

You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is

a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.)

 

What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept.

 

I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut.

 

The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed,  ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.)

 

If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 

 

You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy.

 

Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier...  

 

AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well.

 

You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!!

 

OK I'm done with my rant now! 

If  all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 

I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,)  ;-)

 

I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 

 

Have a good night everyone.

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Spindle Drive set up.

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hey Michael 
The Legacy and the lathe work very well together. 
Chose wisely. on what you are willing to get rid of. Both the Powermatic and 
the General have there own strong points. 
Mike Pung told me a long time ago. Make sure all your tools are 
inter-change-able, this way you do not have to change anything, when switching 
form one machine to the other and then back in the process of doing a job. 

C.A.G. 
- Original Message -

From: "Michael Kratky"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:11:36 PM 
Subject: RE: Spindle Drive set up. 



Curtis, 




I like it, now all I need to do is sell my extra General 26020 VD Canadian made 
wood lathe to make room in the shop for the 1200 LOM which I had to put in 
storage to make room for the Powermatic 4224B I bought 2 ½ years ago, anyone 
near upstate NY I’ll make you a deal. 




Michael P. Kratky 









From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:59 PM 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Subject: Spindle Drive set up. 





Hello Everyone. 


This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it, 
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.) 





This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy, 


Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form 
Legacy, all those years ago. 





You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.) 





You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is 


a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.) 





What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept. 





I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut. 





The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed, ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.) 





If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 





You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy. 





Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier... 





AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well. 





You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!! 





OK I'm done with my rant now! 


If all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 


I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,) ;-) 





I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 





Have a good night everyone. 


C.A.G. 





























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RE: Spindle Drive set up.

[Michael Kratky]

Curtis,

I like it, now all I need to do is sell my extra General 26020 VD Canadian made 
wood lathe to make room in the shop for the 1200 LOM which I had to put in 
storage to make room for the Powermatic 4224B  I bought 2 ½  years ago, anyone 
near upstate NY I’ll make you a deal.

 

Michael P. Kratky

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:59 PM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills
Subject: Spindle Drive set up.

 

Hello Everyone. 

This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it,  
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.)

 

This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy,  

Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form  
Legacy, all those years ago.

 

You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.)  

 

You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is

a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.)

 

What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept.

 

I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut.

 

The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed,  ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.)

 

If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 

 

You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy.

 

Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier...  

 

AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well.

 

You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!!

 

OK I'm done with my rant now! 

If  all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 

I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,)  ;-)

 

I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 

 

Have a good night everyone.

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Spindle Drive set up.

[Bill Bulkeley]

Yea i used to run my spindle from 0 to around 200 rpm variable it works really 
well for strait turning with the surface planning bit

Not bad with a corbox bit either so good in fact very little if any sanding was 
needed

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2015 10:59 AM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills
Subject: Spindle Drive set up.

 

Hello Everyone. 

This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it,  
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.)

 

This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy,  

Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form  
Legacy, all those years ago.

 

You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.)  

 

You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is

a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.)

 

What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept.

 

I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut.

 

The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed,  ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.)

 

If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 

 

You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy.

 

Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier...  

 

AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well.

 

You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!!

 

OK I'm done with my rant now! 

If  all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 

I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,)  ;-)

 

I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 

 

Have a good night everyone.

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Spindle Drive set up.

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello Harvey 
I would say anywhere form 88 rpm to something like what Ive been running MINE, 
let say under 300 rpm. 

By the way, I also use the spindle drive motor on my Legacy for sanding as 
well. 

C.A.G. 
P.S. 
The only thing you do need to take a look at is, if your Legacy has the 
bushing, the motor might cause the plastic to ware out quicker due to the extra 
heat build-up. But the newer units are all ball-bearing head-stocks, 
c.a.g 
- Original Message -

From: "Harvey Matyas"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:51:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Spindle Drive set up. 

Hi Curtis 

How fast is fast? If you could control the motor, what would a good range for 
RPM be? 

Thanks 

Harvey 

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM, CURTIS GEORGE < curtgeo...@wowway.com > wrote: 



Hello Everyone. 
This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about it, 
So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.) 

This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy, 
Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form 
Legacy, all those years ago. 

You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.) 

You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is 
a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the side of 
the spindle.) 

What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some 
spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept. 

I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the spindle 
twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a much 
better/cleaner cut. 

The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed, ( a 110 AC 
motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing? but its much 
slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster than what the 
Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.) 


If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are cheaper 
to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out how they 
work. 

You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the more 
RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just that easy. 

Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate, and 
makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier... 

AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But it 
will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set it dose 
make your roping and fluting better as well. 

You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this modification. 
Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the woodchuck, and not the 
Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and then they never talked 
about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!! 

OK I'm done with my rant now! 
If all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message . 
I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,) ;-) 

I really think this one, is the icing on the cake. 

Have a good night everyone. 
C.A.G. 












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Re: Spindle Drive set up.

[Harvey Matyas]

Hi Curtis

How fast is fast?  If you could control the motor, what would a good range
for RPM be?

Thanks

Harvey

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM, CURTIS GEORGE 
wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> This is a topic that I keep bring up, but no one ever says anything about
> it,  So I thought I would try one last time. ( This year.)
>
> This is the easiest modification you can make for your Legacy,
> Its the missing link from what we Have, to what we thought we bought form
>  Legacy, all those years ago.
>
> You get a much cleaner cut, (faster too, than using the gears.)
>
> You want the Legacy to do some template following? "Well" This is
> a must...( if you want to try following a template and cutting from the
> side of the spindle.)
>
> What I did today was play with some rough cut poplar, Yes there is some
> spalting and some rot. but this is to show you the ability the the concept.
>
> I found out years ago, before I made my motor drive, that if I spun the
> spindle twice (or more ) for every one turn of the drive handle I got a
> much better/cleaner cut.
>
> The motor dose not need to spin fast, mine has an adjustable speed,  ( a
> 110 AC motor.) but I run the spindle at appx. 300 rpm (I'm just guessing?
> but its much slower than what I normally run my lathe at...And much faster
> than what the Legacy will turn the spindle using the gears.)
>
> If I used step pulleys, I could run at any speed I liked, AC motors are
> cheaper to buy/find. and you don't have to be an electrician to figger out
> how they work.
>
> You don't need the spindle to go fast , the cutter dose the work, But the
> more RPM's the spindle makes per cut, the cleaner the cut looks. Its just
> that easy.
>
> Even if you don't have a motor drive, this method speeds up the turn rate,
> and makes the spindle cut, look much better/easier...
>
> AND NO this will not help you out with Roping and fluting. (directly ) But
> it will give you a much better spindle to start with, So in that mind-set
> it dose make your roping and fluting better as well.
>
> You know that funny thing here is? I did not come up with this
> modification. Legacy did. BUT for some reason, they put it on the
> woodchuck, and not the Legacy until the model 2000 and 2200 were made. and
> then they never talked about it. Its the Best keep secret in town!!!
>
> OK I'm done with my rant now!
> If  all I hear this time ,is the sound of crickets chirping to my message
> .
> I will let this topic die out. (at least for this year,)  ;-)
>
> I really think this one, is the icing on the cake.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Tim Krause]

I'm not sure how the cam gears bolt up to either the motor or the legacy
spindle shaft.  I know there was some machining involved.  I'm also not sure
the detail on the motor other than it's a 1/4 hp.  I don't know the total
rpm range.  Hopefully Dave will fill me in.

As far as the rotary table goes, it's an awesome deal.  I have most of the
construction photos and I've been planning to show the group the entire
project, but I think something was missing.  I've shown bits of it in the
past, this weekend I'll figure out what I'm missing.

-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "Curtis" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: Spindle Drive Modification


Dusty Dave
or Tim
how did those calm gears mesh up with the Legacy spindle shaft?
Do you have any other close up pictures? This is an awesome drive
center.
thank you very much for shairing.

C.A.G.

On Nov 14, 10:57 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Seeing Legacy's model 2200 reminds me of an upgrade Dusty Dave from Toledo
sent me.
>
> He used 2 Toyota Avalone cam gears and bearing pulley & VW timing belt to
connect the spindle to a dc gear motor. There is a matching speed controller
as well. This motor is reversible and is strong enough to drive his rotary
table.
>
> Here's some photos.
>
> -Tim
>
> spindle_drive.jpg
> 86KViewDownload
>
> speed_control.jpg
> 79KViewDownload

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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Curtis]

P.S.
Do you have any other pictures of that turn table as well.
That looks realy nice .I would like to get a closer look at that one
too.
C.A.G.

On Nov 14, 10:57 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Seeing Legacy's model 2200 reminds me of an upgrade Dusty Dave from Toledo 
> sent me.
>
> He used 2 Toyota Avalone cam gears and bearing pulley & VW  timing belt to 
> connect the spindle to a dc gear motor.  There is a matching speed controller 
> as well.  This motor is reversible and is strong enough to drive his rotary 
> table.
>
> Here's some photos.
>
> -Tim
>
>  spindle_drive.jpg
> 86KViewDownload
>
>  speed_control.jpg
> 79KViewDownload

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Re: Spindle Drive Modification

[Curtis]

Dusty Dave
or Tim
how did those calm gears mesh up with the Legacy spindle shaft?
Do you have any other close up pictures? This is an awesome drive
center.
thank you very much for shairing.

C.A.G.

On Nov 14, 10:57 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Seeing Legacy's model 2200 reminds me of an upgrade Dusty Dave from Toledo 
> sent me.
>
> He used 2 Toyota Avalone cam gears and bearing pulley & VW  timing belt to 
> connect the spindle to a dc gear motor.  There is a matching speed controller 
> as well.  This motor is reversible and is strong enough to drive his rotary 
> table.
>
> Here's some photos.
>
> -Tim
>
>  spindle_drive.jpg
> 86KViewDownload
>
>  speed_control.jpg
> 79KViewDownload

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