RE: [LegacyUG] Census Record - Unrelated Person

[Kirsten Bowman]

Jeremy:

You're so right about these folks eventually turning out to be related.
When I record a census source, I use the Actual Source Detail Text field of
the Source Clipboard to list the household just as it's shown in the census,
including apparently unrelated individuals.  I don't include those people as
unlinked individuals in my database however.  If you later discover a
relationship it's fairly simple to add the individual, then copy the census
listing to the Source Clipboard and attach it to the new family member.

Kirsten

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Census Record - Unrelated Person


In searching through census records I'm occasionally finding unrelated
individuals living in the same household (at the time of the census).

I'm wondering what others have done with these individuals.  I can
certainly put them in as "unlinked" (or unrelated) individuals and also
include them in notes and also in the census source records.

One instance was a 15 year old child (listed as 'servant' in 1930) when
there was also a 1-year old and a 3-year old in the family.  I wanted to
know the best way to include this fact in an event chronology to show
the "structure of the family" in 1930 as including 'live in extra help'
and also reminding me to keep this person in mind during other research
if it turned out to be an unexpected cousin.

All suggestions appreciated (or point me to a previous discussion)
Thanks./Jeremy









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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kirsten Bowman]

Gail:

My sourcing method is very similar to yours and I agree that it is a major
pain when you find a typo in the Source Detail that's been used for perhaps
a dozen different people and in several fields for each person.  It's
necessary then to locate and correct every individual instance or you can
end up with two versions of the citation in the Source Notes in reports, so
if I'm understanding your suggestion correctly it would be a tremendous
convenience.

What I don't understand is your statement that a given Master Source/Source
Detail combination used multiple times results in multiple copies in the
database.  If the "combo" is identical, but applied to several different
fields and/or individuals, would it not be in the database only once?

Either way, being able to make a global change to any given Master
Source/Source Detail combination would be absolutely wonderful.  If this is
what you're advocating, then I'll certainly add my vote and hope that
Millennia is listening!

Kirsten

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Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
identical copy of that exact same source in the database.

I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
copy to correct.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net






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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Kirsten Bowman]

Elizabeth:

I'll add a couple of thoughts that would work in conjunction with the other
suggestions and might help to pare the problem down to size:  You could
consider focusing first on sourcing your direct line ancestors.  If a
particular source happens to apply to collateral relatives, then certainly
add it at the same time using the Source Clipboard, but do try to get your
direct line properly sourced to begin with.

Or here's another approach:  Figuring out how to format your sources is
rather a chore.  It may be easier to concentrate on one type of
source--perhaps all of your census records or all of your birth
certificates.  Once you decide on how to format a particular type of source,
it's a little easier and faster to just keep on going with more of the same
type rather than to skip around doing a single census source, then perhaps a
book source, and next a letter source, for example.

How do you eat an elephant?  A bite at a time!

Good luck with your project.

Kirsten

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Bagot Bees
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources


Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of
sources makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for
about 45 years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts
inherited, etc.  I have used a number of family history programmes on
computer but now use Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now
have to admit that virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!

How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it tedious
and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I do
realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious information.

Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the
non-standard information.  In other words, if the data comes from a
standard birth, marriage or death certificate or parish register then
leave it un-sourced and concentrate on those bits of information found
in other places - for example a local trade directory or Will or Army
record?

Any advice please?

Elizabeth







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[LegacyUG] Census Record - Unrelated Person

[Jeremy Main]

In searching through census records I'm occasionally finding unrelated 
individuals living in the same household (at the time of the census).  

I'm wondering what others have done with these individuals.  I can 
certainly put them in as "unlinked" (or unrelated) individuals and also 
include them in notes and also in the census source records.


One instance was a 15 year old child (listed as 'servant' in 1930) when 
there was also a 1-year old and a 3-year old in the family.  I wanted to 
know the best way to include this fact in an event chronology to show 
the "structure of the family" in 1930 as including 'live in extra help' 
and also reminding me to keep this person in mind during other research 
if it turned out to be an unexpected cousin.


All suggestions appreciated (or point me to a previous discussion)  
Thanks./Jeremy




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[theple]

I'm a Brand New Legacy User. Just installed it on my computer 4 days
ago, received the videos in the mail yesterday and stayed up till 2 a.m.
last night viewing until I had to go to bed (I was falling asleep in my
chair).

I haven't worked on my genealogy for over 25 years ... Due to kids,
work, college, husband's military deployment, etc. Now that the kids are
out of the house, the husband is retired from the military and I'm
pretty much done with college, (I am still working though) I've decided
it's time to take back up the "hobby" I love.

Most of my records are from pre computer days (handwritten or typed). So
I'm keying everything in from scratch. Since I'm starting from a blank
slate so to speak...I'm very interested in the Sources topic. Thank you
Elizabeth for this explanation. I certaily see advantages of both but an
leaning towards doing the "Lumping" type. 

Any insight on both "Lumping" and "Splitting" is greating appreciated.

Thank you all!

Teresa Heple

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Hi Elizabeth,

"Lumping" and "splitting" are terms this list has adopted to describe 
two ways of utilising the sources feature of Legacy.

At one extreme end, a splitter will use one Master Source for each 
individual document they come across.  For example, each birth 
certificate sighted for data would have it's own Master Source, each 
page in a census, etc.  This results in many, many Master Sources, but 
also has some advantages over other methods.  In this situation, the 
Detail Source field would only be required in situations such as when 
you wanted to specify the page of a book, or something like that.

At the other extreme, a lumper would have one Master Source called 
something like "Birth Certificates", and use that for every piece of 
data that came from a birth record.  The Detail Source field is used in 
this case to provide information specific to each item.  This results in

fewer Master Source items.

I'm somewhere in-between, having started out as a splitter because I 
didn't realise there were alternatives until I'd been reading this list 
for a while.  I lump different *types* of birth records together, so I 
have one for English birth certificates, one for New Zealand birth 
certificates, another for NZ birth "printouts" (which aren't the same as

certificates, but are the original entries from which certificates are 
produced on order), and so on.  One Master Source for each country that 
I've got material from.  One Master Source for each year and country for

census data.  The information that is common to these items (author, 
title, usually) is recorded in the Master Source, everything else is 
recorded in the Detail Source.

I also have a Master Source called "Private Correspondence", which I use

for letters, emails, etc that I receive from people about my family.  A 
splitter would create a Master Source for each item.

I like my method of being somewhat of a lumper because it is quicker for

me to assign a Master Source when I'm entering data, and if I'm looking 
through the list there isn't a lot to look through (70 at this moment, 
though many of those are from the days when I was working in the 
splitter fashion that I haven't changed yet) and easy to remember what 
I've got there.

However, as has already been mentioned here today, if I make a mistake 
in the Detail Source field for an item and don't notice it until later, 
and I've used that for several pieces of data spread over several 
people, I have to find each one to correct them individually.  Sounds 
drastic, but with the Source Clipboard it is actually very quick to make

the actual correction - it just takes time to locate where that Detail 
Source was used.  And even if you miss one correction and don't notice 
it until you're running a report later, it doesn't take long to copy the

correct entry to the Source Clipboard and paste it where it's needed, 
deleting the incorrect one as well.

There is no "right" answer here for you - just choices to make as to how

you want to proceed.  We can help you by telling you what we do 
ourselves and why we prefer our own methods.  :-)

Hope this helps.

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
-- 
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 


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*Sent:* 12/30/2007 11:49:41 AM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sources


> Thanks to all this advice.  I must admit I am still confused by the
> terms lumper and splitter.  I've looked at the Archive pages but they 
> don't seem to explain what is meant by this.  It just shows that you 
> can be using a program for years without fully understanding it.  
> How

RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Timothy K. Cox]

I would like to apologize to everyone for taking way too much time engaging
one individual's sideline. Please again my apologies and thanks to everyone
else for your help.

 

Best Regards,

  Timothy K. Cox

 

 

From: Timothy K. Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

If you read the first line, you would see that I stated you implied
providing information not asked for. Call me Crass if you will but I was
only stating the obvious for anyone who's paying attention. Why should I
treat your insensitive comments with such care? Generalities only add to
overall confusion. I guess you're not ready to move on.

 

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Herson
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

If you would read more carefully, you would see that I said "Early on I
merely provided information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document
filing system. I was raked over the coals for that." I wasn't asking for, I
was providing information.

 

I have asked questions, not daily or six times a day, as some do, and I
appreciate the answers I've received. I didn't comment on the overall tone
of the forum, only on certain individuals. I wouldn't be so crass as to name
names. 

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From: Timothy K. Cox   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:31 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

Thomas,

 

Sorry to hear about your problems. Your statement implies you were providing
information, not asking for it. But, I wasn't there. My inquiry wasn't there
among these issues you stated. No one had a negative comment besides the one
you initiated and Jan's response. May I suggest you not bring baggage from a
previous bad experience into unrelated threads. I don't know when these
alleged issues occurred and I wasn't there so I won't presume to take sides.

Over time, forum memberships change and troublemakers move on or get ousted.
If your goal is sabotage of this forum based on your perceived bad
experience move on. If your goal is to learn and contribute to a better
experience then by all means contribute in a positive manner. I have
reviewed the various filing systems as well as Legacy's filing system (
linked from Legacy site to another site). If you are still needing supply
support, perhaps you should re-address your questions in a new thread and
stay positive. All I'll say on the other topic is that it does seem
counter-intuitive to Genealogy and obviously same sex relationships
discussions would be highly charged in any forum. I would not use that as
the basis for deciding the overall tone of the forum. Now the choice is
yours, hold on to bad experiences and spread the misery around or, move on
and be pleasant.

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system.
I was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste
of time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and
privately attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships
when using Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of
maintaining more than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the
responses can apply to almost every genealogy softwre and could be
considered off-topic. Why are the pros and cons of maintaining more than one
file in a genealogy program on topic and the source of supplies needed to
maintain the Legacy document filing system off-topic?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Maiden Names

[Jackie King]

And, of course, there are people like me who when I married for the 
second time kept my first husband's surname for professional and family 
reasons. I can't wait for my family to try to find ME in about 200 years.


Jackie

Wayne Martell wrote:
It is becoming quite common for women to keep their maiden names when 
they get married; in fact, in Quebec it is required by law that they 
do so. Does anybody bother making a note of this; if so, how is it done?


Perhaps a little tick box in the Individual Information window would 
be in order. Or perhaps the Marriage Information window!


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[LegacyUG] Maiden Names

[Wayne Martell]

It is becoming quite common for women to keep their maiden names when they 
get married; in fact, in Quebec it is required by law that they do so. Does 
anybody bother making a note of this; if so, how is it done?


Perhaps a little tick box in the Individual Information window would be in 
order. Or perhaps the Marriage Information window!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Jan Oldham]

That's one of the areas I'm starting on now.  I'm going to see if I can link
my husband's line back into Maryland.  This has kind of turned into a
one-name study.  If you come across any Oldham's please send them my way!

Thanks for the tip

Jan


On 12/29/07, Joseph (Ragweed) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I agree completely!
>
> By the way, Jan, have you looked into any of the Oldham's in the
> Waynesboro,
> PA and Hagerstown, MD. areas??  I had friends in Hagerstown and the
> grandfather lived in Waynesboro.  I believe the family is rather old in
> that
> area.
>
> Joseph Snurr
> formally from that area
>
> _
> From: "Wendy Howard"
> > Jan, please don't be put off by one person with a negative opinion.  As
> > far as I can see, your query was on-topic for this list because you were
> > asking how best to make use of the program in your situation, and that
> is
> > what the replies sent to the list were based on.
> >
> > As is often the case, there is more than one way to handle things in
> > Legacy.  You've had at least two different views given - something for
> you
> > to ponder as you decide what you're going to do.  There isn't a "right"
> > answer, but a matter of working out what is right for *you*.
> >
> > While you consider the options, please take the time to sit back and
> read
> > the posts on this list for a while.  I'm sure you will find that it is a
> > very good place to be for finding out more about the Legacy program, as
> I
> > and many others do.  Please don't let one bad experience ruin it for
> you.
> > :-)
>
> _
> From: Jan Oldham
> >> Ok, well now I know the tone of the Legacy Boards.  Thanks for helping
> me
> >> decide which software program to change to.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Elizabeth,

"Lumping" and "splitting" are terms this list has adopted to describe 
two ways of utilising the sources feature of Legacy.


At one extreme end, a splitter will use one Master Source for each 
individual document they come across.  For example, each birth 
certificate sighted for data would have it's own Master Source, each 
page in a census, etc.  This results in many, many Master Sources, but 
also has some advantages over other methods.  In this situation, the 
Detail Source field would only be required in situations such as when 
you wanted to specify the page of a book, or something like that.


At the other extreme, a lumper would have one Master Source called 
something like "Birth Certificates", and use that for every piece of 
data that came from a birth record.  The Detail Source field is used in 
this case to provide information specific to each item.  This results in 
fewer Master Source items.


I'm somewhere in-between, having started out as a splitter because I 
didn't realise there were alternatives until I'd been reading this list 
for a while.  I lump different *types* of birth records together, so I 
have one for English birth certificates, one for New Zealand birth 
certificates, another for NZ birth "printouts" (which aren't the same as 
certificates, but are the original entries from which certificates are 
produced on order), and so on.  One Master Source for each country that 
I've got material from.  One Master Source for each year and country for 
census data.  The information that is common to these items (author, 
title, usually) is recorded in the Master Source, everything else is 
recorded in the Detail Source.


I also have a Master Source called "Private Correspondence", which I use 
for letters, emails, etc that I receive from people about my family.  A 
splitter would create a Master Source for each item.


I like my method of being somewhat of a lumper because it is quicker for 
me to assign a Master Source when I'm entering data, and if I'm looking 
through the list there isn't a lot to look through (70 at this moment, 
though many of those are from the days when I was working in the 
splitter fashion that I haven't changed yet) and easy to remember what 
I've got there.


However, as has already been mentioned here today, if I make a mistake 
in the Detail Source field for an item and don't notice it until later, 
and I've used that for several pieces of data spread over several 
people, I have to find each one to correct them individually.  Sounds 
drastic, but with the Source Clipboard it is actually very quick to make 
the actual correction - it just takes time to locate where that Detail 
Source was used.  And even if you miss one correction and don't notice 
it until you're running a report later, it doesn't take long to copy the 
correct entry to the Source Clipboard and paste it where it's needed, 
deleting the incorrect one as well.


There is no "right" answer here for you - just choices to make as to how 
you want to proceed.  We can help you by telling you what we do 
ourselves and why we prefer our own methods.  :-)


Hope this helps.

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 



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*Sent:* 12/30/2007 11:49:41 AM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sources


Thanks to all this advice.  I must admit I am still confused by the 
terms lumper and splitter.  I've looked at the Archive pages but they 
don't seem to explain what is meant by this.  It just shows that you 
can be using a program for years without fully understanding it.  
However, I am picking up help on this subject of sources, have now 
looked at the video for sourcing which does help.  I am inspired to 
start.


Elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Lucy Shore]

Hi

I've been watching this thread with some interest. I've determined that for 
years I've been a splitter but recently have seen the advantages to being a 
lumper!


However, as I understand it, Legacy 7 will have some major changes made to 
the sources component of the program. Apparently a template system will be 
used and thus we'll all to need to make various changes to the way we've 
handled sources. So I suspect that many of us are 'jumping the gun' with 
respect to changing whatever 'system' we use.


BTW I was probably one of the earlier users of Legacy (I think I started 
with Legacy 1.0!) when it wasn't free and never regretted the move for a 
moment. Of all the programs I tried (at the time I was using Brothers Keeper 
and quite liked it but I was looking for something more sohisticated), 
Legacy was (and still is) the most intuitive program around. Keep up the 
good work, guys and gals! Now if we could only figure have more french 
reports (bg)...


Lucy

Thanks to all this advice.  I must admit I am still confused by the terms 
lumper and splitter.  I've looked at the Archive pages but they don't seem 
to explain what is meant by this.  It just shows that you can be using a 
program for years without fully understanding it.  However, I am picking 
up help on this subject of sources, have now looked at the video for 
sourcing which does help.  I am inspired to start.


Elizabeth






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Bruce Jones]

Thanks, Gail.  That was really a good explanation, and I now agree with you.

On Dec 29, 2007 12:18 PM, Gail Nestor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ron and others, I know this is a complicated situation to try to
> explain and I think it would mainly benefit those with medium to large
> databases and those who lump (who have a master source with lots of
> details and apply those same details to multiple people, facts, and
> events).  Let me see if an example might help.
>
> I find an obituary for John Doe:
>
> I first create a master source like"
> The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
> (Wilkes County Community College Library)
>
> This master source could be the source for several different peoples'
> obits, each of which can apply to many people and/or events.
>
> Now let's say I create a citation detail for one specific article I
> find in this newspaper:
> obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5
>
> I might want to apply this master source and the source detail to John
> Doe's name, birth date, death date, religion, and occupation.  I might
> also want to apply this same "master plus detail" to John Does' wife,
> parents, and children.
>
> I could use Legacy's source template to copy and paste the master plus
> detail combo to all the people and facts.  That would be fine except
> that there would be muliple copies of this exact same master plus
> detail floating around in Legacy's database.  If I needed to make a
> correction to the detail, I would have to "search and replace" the
> erroneous portion in every individual copy of this in Legacy.
>
> If the source plus detail were only entered once in Legacy, I envision this:
> 1) I first select a (previously entered) master source from Legacy
> (like I already would now)
> 2) I then see a drop down box with each previously entered citation
> detail choice:
>
> i.e. obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5
> obituary for Jane Doe, vol. XXVII, no. 112, Monday, 5 May 1942, page 1
> obituary for Baby Doe, vol XXII, no. 74, Monday, 12 February 1921, page 3
>
> 3) I would click the one I wanted or I could add a new one
> 4) I would then click the place to apply the master plus detail (John
> Doe's name, Jane Doe's name, John Doe's place of birth, etc.)
>
>
> The benefit is that you would select the detail to associate with the
> master source and then Legacy would create a link to the entire source
> set (master plus detail).   You would not have identical copies of
> master plus detail like the example below floating around in Legacy
> attached to multiple people and/or events.
>
> The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
> (Wilkes County Community College Library), obituary for John Doe, vol.
> XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5
>
> Let's say I have 1 newspaper (one master source) with obituaries for
> 10 different people, each with his own separate citation detail.  That
> would lead to 10 different "master plus detail" combos.  Then let's
> say I paste one of these 10 souce combos to 5 people and/or events.
> That equates to 5 separate source listings in Legacy.  If each "master
> plus detail" combos (that is - one newspaper plus one person's
> individual obit detail) could be formed so that a link could be
> established between it and a person/fact/event, there would only be 1
> source listings instead of 5 as above.
>
> I know this sounds convoluted, but I just feel that if I could talk
> with a programmer, I could get this to make more sense.  I once had a
> project working with electronic invoicing at a prior job and everyone
> thought I was crazy until I finally caught the programmers interest
> and we ended up saving a ton of time, money, data storage space, and
> many less errors.  It's just very complicated to describe in words!
>
> Anyway, sorry for going on about this as I know it doesn't have any
> chance of being included with v7.  However, I do think this idea is
> worthy of consideration and hope it makes a tiny bit of sense.
>
> Now I'm off to a movie with Mom and sis while hubby watches the kids!...
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, GA
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 2:09 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Gail,
> >
> > Please forgive me but I do not understand what you are saying. There is one 
> > Master Source which (hopefully) does not need changing and then source 
> > details which are related to the individual and, therefore, must be changed 
> > for each. So , what is the probem? Or is it a problem that only splitters 
> > have?
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> > For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > *New Blog* Protect Your PC
> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Wendy Howard]

It's a brand of fine tipped felt pen with permanent ink, that you should 
be able to find in Australia.  We have them here in NZ. 

See their web site at 
http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sharpie_Fine_Point_Permanent_Marker.html 
to see what they look like and the colours available.


Wendy

- Original Message -
*From:* "Valerie Garton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* 12/30/2007 11:52:13 AM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sources



Great suggestion but what is a Sharpie ?



-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 1:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


 All my documents are in those plastic sleeves and I just put a little 
checkmark on the plastic with a Sharpie. 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Valerie Garton]

Great suggestion but what is a Sharpie ?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
& Wexford 
GOON member No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON

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Lewis
Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 1:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


Another thing.  Any new documents that I add to my file that I have
sourced 
properly gets a little mark so that I know I have properly entered it.
That 
way when I do pull a file I can tell which documents have been entered 
properly and the ones that still need to be.  All my documents are in
those 
plastic sleeves and I just put a little checkmark on the plastic with a 
Sharpie.  If it is something like a letter or an email that I received
from 
someone I just make a mark on the paper itself.  Same with anything that
I 
have printed out from a database etc.

michele 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Hope Bagot Bees]

Thanks to all this advice.  I must admit I am still confused by the 
terms lumper and splitter.  I've looked at the Archive pages but they 
don't seem to explain what is meant by this.  It just shows that you can 
be using a program for years without fully understanding it.  However, I 
am picking up help on this subject of sources, have now looked at the 
video for sourcing which does help.  I am inspired to start.


Elizabeth

Cathy wrote:

Hi Elizabeth,

The first advice is to start.
Don't add any more information without sourcing it as you add it - you 
use the Source Clipboard to do this. It's worth taking the time to 
learn to use this resource. Note that the free preview of the Video 
for Sourcing is on the Source Clipboard. See

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp

I'd start with the certificates and parish registers. These are the 
strongest sources (although they may contain errors as the information 
is only as good as the informant and the carefulness of the recorder) 
and will show quickly which pieces of information in your file are 
really solidly sourced.


With the bits of paper and sketched charts etc. I have given every 
piece a name (Craig Family Tree from Julie Craig 1982 etc - including 
unknown) and a code (FAM### where ### is a number). They are filed in 
order of number. Sources that don't fit in an A4 size file I have 
numbered separately.


It's more important to have a Source Name with information that 
enables you and an intelligent reader to know precisely what you mean 
than to fill in every field and follow accepted standards. If you can 
follow the standards, that's great and will be most helpful in the 
long run - but if attempting to stops you putting in sources at all - 
forget the standards or all the fields. Remember you can edit the 
Master Source later and add more information.


Cathy

At 07:54 AM 29/12/2007, you wrote:

Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of 
sources makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history 
for about 45 years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, 
charts inherited, etc.  I have used a number of family history 
programmes on computer but now use Legacy, having previously used 
Reunion.  And I now have to admit that virtually nothing is sourced 
on Legacy!!


How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000 
people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it 
tedious and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just 
give up.  I do realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as 
serious information.


Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the 
non-standard information.  In other words, if the data comes from a 
standard birth, marriage or death certificate or parish register then 
leave it un-sourced and concentrate on those bits of information 
found in other places - for example a local trade directory or Will 
or Army record?


Any advice please?

Elizabeth





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Michele Lewis]

Gail, I really like your idea about having a drop down list of all the 
different detail entries for each source. I understand perfectly what you 
are saying (maybe because I am a lumper!).  I have had to correct an error 
like that and it is very time consuming.


michele

- Original Message - 
From: "Gail Nestor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources



Hi Ron and others, I know this is a complicated situation to try to
explain and I think it would mainly benefit those with medium to large
databases and those who lump (who have a master source with lots of
details and apply those same details to multiple people, facts, and
events).  Let me see if an example might help.

I find an obituary for John Doe:

I first create a master source like"
The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
(Wilkes County Community College Library)

This master source could be the source for several different peoples'
obits, each of which can apply to many people and/or events.

Now let's say I create a citation detail for one specific article I
find in this newspaper:
obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

I might want to apply this master source and the source detail to John
Doe's name, birth date, death date, religion, and occupation.  I might
also want to apply this same "master plus detail" to John Does' wife,
parents, and children.

I could use Legacy's source template to copy and paste the master plus
detail combo to all the people and facts.  That would be fine except
that there would be muliple copies of this exact same master plus
detail floating around in Legacy's database.  If I needed to make a
correction to the detail, I would have to "search and replace" the
erroneous portion in every individual copy of this in Legacy.

If the source plus detail were only entered once in Legacy, I envision 
this:

1) I first select a (previously entered) master source from Legacy
(like I already would now)
2) I then see a drop down box with each previously entered citation
detail choice:

i.e. obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 
5

obituary for Jane Doe, vol. XXVII, no. 112, Monday, 5 May 1942, page 1
obituary for Baby Doe, vol XXII, no. 74, Monday, 12 February 1921, page 3

3) I would click the one I wanted or I could add a new one
4) I would then click the place to apply the master plus detail (John
Doe's name, Jane Doe's name, John Doe's place of birth, etc.)


The benefit is that you would select the detail to associate with the
master source and then Legacy would create a link to the entire source
set (master plus detail).   You would not have identical copies of
master plus detail like the example below floating around in Legacy
attached to multiple people and/or events.

The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
(Wilkes County Community College Library), obituary for John Doe, vol.
XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

Let's say I have 1 newspaper (one master source) with obituaries for
10 different people, each with his own separate citation detail.  That
would lead to 10 different "master plus detail" combos.  Then let's
say I paste one of these 10 souce combos to 5 people and/or events.
That equates to 5 separate source listings in Legacy.  If each "master
plus detail" combos (that is - one newspaper plus one person's
individual obit detail) could be formed so that a link could be
established between it and a person/fact/event, there would only be 1
source listings instead of 5 as above.

I know this sounds convoluted, but I just feel that if I could talk
with a programmer, I could get this to make more sense.  I once had a
project working with electronic invoicing at a prior job and everyone
thought I was crazy until I finally caught the programmers interest
and we ended up saving a ton of time, money, data storage space, and
many less errors.  It's just very complicated to describe in words!

Anyway, sorry for going on about this as I know it doesn't have any
chance of being included with v7.  However, I do think this idea is
worthy of consideration and hope it makes a tiny bit of sense.

Now I'm off to a movie with Mom and sis while hubby watches the kids!...

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 29, 2007 2:09 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Gail,

Please forgive me but I do not understand what you are saying. There is 
one Master Source which (hopefully) does not need changing and then 
source details which are related to the individual and, therefore, must 
be changed for each. So , what is the probem? Or is it a problem that 
only splitters have?


Ron Ferguson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ruth Nerud]

I'm a lumper, too, and I just really like this new idea of using the Detail 
section. It gives so much more information that proves the fact.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "Michele Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


I am a lumper too.   I have a master source Death Certificate and then in 
the detail I put


Mississippi Certificate of Death #46988, James Elexander Simmons

HOWEVER, I attach this source to MANY different facts and that was the 
list I put in the other post.


michele 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Janis Gilmore]

Whoops. That was supposed to have been an off-list reply. My apologies.

 

Janis

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

There are some real grouches on the legacy list. Also some lovely folks who
are quite helpful. Your conversation was on topic. Don't sweat the picky
emails.

 

There are a number of people who are on slow dial-up connections, and in
their frustration, they only want to see what they want to see. I understand
their dilemma, but it is too bad that it affects the list in such a negative
way.

 

Don't give up on Legacy. It's a great program. If you consider another one,
however, I would suggest that its only equal is The Master Genealogist.
Probably actually a better program, TMG - but a much steeper learning curve.
I repeat, however, that you should persevere with Legacy, particularly in
view of their upcoming software release. The individual who sniped at you
was alone in his/her feelings.

 

Janis

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Oldham
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

Ok, well now I know the tone of the Legacy Boards.  Thanks for helping me
decide which software program to change to.  

On 12/28/07, Thomas Herson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

To each his own, some of you seem to be making life difficult for
yourselves. But is this really a Legacy topic? It would seem to apply to any
software.

 

Tpm

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Gail Nestor]

Hi Ron and others, I know this is a complicated situation to try to
explain and I think it would mainly benefit those with medium to large
databases and those who lump (who have a master source with lots of
details and apply those same details to multiple people, facts, and
events).  Let me see if an example might help.

I find an obituary for John Doe:

I first create a master source like"
The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
(Wilkes County Community College Library)

This master source could be the source for several different peoples'
obits, each of which can apply to many people and/or events.

Now let's say I create a citation detail for one specific article I
find in this newspaper:
obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

I might want to apply this master source and the source detail to John
Doe's name, birth date, death date, religion, and occupation.  I might
also want to apply this same "master plus detail" to John Does' wife,
parents, and children.

I could use Legacy's source template to copy and paste the master plus
detail combo to all the people and facts.  That would be fine except
that there would be muliple copies of this exact same master plus
detail floating around in Legacy's database.  If I needed to make a
correction to the detail, I would have to "search and replace" the
erroneous portion in every individual copy of this in Legacy.

If the source plus detail were only entered once in Legacy, I envision this:
1) I first select a (previously entered) master source from Legacy
(like I already would now)
2) I then see a drop down box with each previously entered citation
detail choice:

i.e. obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5
obituary for Jane Doe, vol. XXVII, no. 112, Monday, 5 May 1942, page 1
obituary for Baby Doe, vol XXII, no. 74, Monday, 12 February 1921, page 3

3) I would click the one I wanted or I could add a new one
4) I would then click the place to apply the master plus detail (John
Doe's name, Jane Doe's name, John Doe's place of birth, etc.)


The benefit is that you would select the detail to associate with the
master source and then Legacy would create a link to the entire source
set (master plus detail).   You would not have identical copies of
master plus detail like the example below floating around in Legacy
attached to multiple people and/or events.

The Journal-Patriot [microfilm], Wilkesboro, North Carolina
(Wilkes County Community College Library), obituary for John Doe, vol.
XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

Let's say I have 1 newspaper (one master source) with obituaries for
10 different people, each with his own separate citation detail.  That
would lead to 10 different "master plus detail" combos.  Then let's
say I paste one of these 10 souce combos to 5 people and/or events.
That equates to 5 separate source listings in Legacy.  If each "master
plus detail" combos (that is - one newspaper plus one person's
individual obit detail) could be formed so that a link could be
established between it and a person/fact/event, there would only be 1
source listings instead of 5 as above.

I know this sounds convoluted, but I just feel that if I could talk
with a programmer, I could get this to make more sense.  I once had a
project working with electronic invoicing at a prior job and everyone
thought I was crazy until I finally caught the programmers interest
and we ended up saving a ton of time, money, data storage space, and
many less errors.  It's just very complicated to describe in words!

Anyway, sorry for going on about this as I know it doesn't have any
chance of being included with v7.  However, I do think this idea is
worthy of consideration and hope it makes a tiny bit of sense.

Now I'm off to a movie with Mom and sis while hubby watches the kids!...

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 29, 2007 2:09 PM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gail,
>
> Please forgive me but I do not understand what you are saying. There is one 
> Master Source which (hopefully) does not need changing and then source 
> details which are related to the individual and, therefore, must be changed 
> for each. So , what is the probem? Or is it a problem that only splitters 
> have?
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
> _
>
> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> *New Blog* Protect Your PC
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
> > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:11:27 -0500
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
> >
> > Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> > Legacy will consider a change in i

Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I agree completely!

By the way, Jan, have you looked into any of the Oldham's in the Waynesboro, 
PA and Hagerstown, MD. areas??  I had friends in Hagerstown and the 
grandfather lived in Waynesboro.  I believe the family is rather old in that 
area.


Joseph Snurr
formally from that area

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From: "Wendy Howard"
Jan, please don't be put off by one person with a negative opinion.  As 
far as I can see, your query was on-topic for this list because you were 
asking how best to make use of the program in your situation, and that is 
what the replies sent to the list were based on.


As is often the case, there is more than one way to handle things in 
Legacy.  You've had at least two different views given - something for you 
to ponder as you decide what you're going to do.  There isn't a "right" 
answer, but a matter of working out what is right for *you*.


While you consider the options, please take the time to sit back and read 
the posts on this list for a while.  I'm sure you will find that it is a 
very good place to be for finding out more about the Legacy program, as I 
and many others do.  Please don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. 
:-)


_
From: Jan Oldham
Ok, well now I know the tone of the Legacy Boards.  Thanks for helping me 
decide which software program to change to.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Michele Lewis]

I am a lumper too.   I have a master source Death Certificate and then in 
the detail I put


Mississippi Certificate of Death #46988, James Elexander Simmons

HOWEVER, I attach this source to MANY different facts and that was the list 
I put in the other post.


michele 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Michele Lewis]

Now I understand what you are saying!  I understand because I had to make a 
correction to one of my sources.  If you are a splitter it isn't a problem 
because you can make a change in the source and it will then make a global 
change to everything that uses that source.  However, if you are a lumper 
that uses the detail area to differentiate between specific source then it 
is a problem when you have to make a change to a particular death 
certificate.  You can solve your problem by becoming a splitter.  I am a die 
hard lumper though :)  What I do is I just do a search to find all the 
records that need to be changed, tag them, and then correct them.  Once I 
correct one I can copy and paste through the others.


michele
- Original Message - 
From: "Gail Nestor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources



Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
identical copy of that exact same source in the database.

I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
copy to correct.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in my
file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have been
going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.

I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the
Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and enter
all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate I
would add the death certificate info as a source for
the person's name
the person's date of birth
the person's place of birth
the person's parent's names
the person's date of death
the person's date of burial
the person's place of burial
the person's last residence
the person's spouse info
the person's cause of death
and anything other info I can glean

It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are 
adding

sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the time
you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your direct
line and then go back and work on collateral lines.

Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source
clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.

michele
- Original Message -
From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources


> Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of 
> sources

> makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about 45
> years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, 
> etc.
> I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now 
> use

> Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that
> virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!
>
> How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
> people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it tedious
> and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I 
> do
> realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious 
> information.

>
> Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the 
> non-standard

> information.  In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth,
> marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it 
> un-sourced
> and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places - 
> for

> example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?
>
> Any advice please?
>
> Elizabeth




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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Janis Gilmore]

Yes, this is a Legacy topic (my opinion), because it has to do with how you
set up a particular problem in Legacy. Any application to other softwares
are incidental.

 

Janis Walker Gilmore

Pawleys Island, SC & Seattle, WA

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

To each his own, some of you seem to be making life difficult for
yourselves. But is this really a Legacy topic? It would seem to apply to any
software.

 

Tpm

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From: Jan Oldham   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:24 PM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

I have approximately 38500 in my current file.  I usually also gather all
information pertaining to a particular surname when I come across it.  To
avoid having alot of unlinked individuals, I have dummy individuals named as
the area I found the original information.  For example... if I find census
information on John Smith in Marion County Indiana, but I don't have John or
his family in my database,  I set up an entry for Marion County Smith, child
of Indiana Smith.  You can see the effect in my website at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~theoldhams/families/oldham/index.ht
ml.  

 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Janis Gilmore]

There are some real grouches on the legacy list. Also some lovely folks who
are quite helpful. Your conversation was on topic. Don't sweat the picky
emails.

 

There are a number of people who are on slow dial-up connections, and in
their frustration, they only want to see what they want to see. I understand
their dilemma, but it is too bad that it affects the list in such a negative
way.

 

Don't give up on Legacy. It's a great program. If you consider another one,
however, I would suggest that its only equal is The Master Genealogist.
Probably actually a better program, TMG - but a much steeper learning curve.
I repeat, however, that you should persevere with Legacy, particularly in
view of their upcoming software release. The individual who sniped at you
was alone in his/her feelings.

 

Janis

 

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

Ok, well now I know the tone of the Legacy Boards.  Thanks for helping me
decide which software program to change to.  

On 12/28/07, Thomas Herson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

To each his own, some of you seem to be making life difficult for
yourselves. But is this really a Legacy topic? It would seem to apply to any
software.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[myrna20]

Jan,

That is just one out of the hundreds (thousands?) that actually correspond on 
this board. He probably did not get what he wanted for Christmas so just 
overlook him this time.

Even if you never use the message board I believe you will be much happier with 
the Legacy software than any other that is available for Windows PCs.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ruth Nerud]

Ohmygosh - It never occurred to me that this was something I could make use of. 
I couldn't envision what detail I would add. Now I have a lot of work to do 
because I think this is a great feature. Legacy rocks!

Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Anders 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


  Ruth,

  I was simply explaining a feature that Gail would like to see in Legacy.

  However, if you have one source titled "Obituary" that you use for all of 
your obituaries, you would add the individual details (newspaper title, page 
number, date, etc.) in the "detail" box, just as I am sure you have been doing 
all along. 

  And I'm sorry if I added to the confusion, as that was certainly not my 
intention.

  :-) Lee


  On Dec 29, 2007 1:03 PM, Ruth Nerud < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Now I'm confused. I understand one source; i.e., Obituary. Then when I use 
that source and want to say it came from this newspaper or that newspaper, two 
different ones, where do I put the *detail* showing that one person's obituary 
came from a newspaper different from another persons. Maybe I've had too many 
sugar cookies, but I just don't get this one.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Anders 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources 


  Forgive me for interjecting, but this is not the first time this 
confusion has arisen from the same mistake, innocent as it may be. Gail is 
actually talking about the *detail* added to the source, not the source itself. 
What she wants is to be able to do is link multiple facts to one *detail*. So, 
yes, there is only one copy of the source in your database, but each *detail* 
is treated individually, even if the source AND *detail* are identical to a 100 
others. 

  Lee


  On Dec 29, 2007 12:29 PM, Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra identical
copy of that exact same source in the database".

I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several
different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele
does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.  The
one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many 
different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.

Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different
people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate source 
entries . . .

Bob


Gail Nestor wrote:
> Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
> is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and 
> different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
>
> I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
> then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
> places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help 
> immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
> correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
> copy to correct.
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, GA
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>

> On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes 
in my
>> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have 
been
>> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else. 
>>
>> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like 
the
>> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and 
enter
>> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death 
cerificate I 
>> would add the death certificate info as a source for
>> the person's name
>> the person's date of birth
>> the person's place of birth
>> the person's parent's names 
>> the person's date of death
>> the person's date of burial
>> the person's place of burial
>> the person's last residence
>> the person's spouse info
>> the person's cause of death
>> and anything other info I can glean
>>
  

RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[ronald ferguson]

Gail, 

Please forgive me but I do not understand what you are saying. There is one 
Master Source which (hopefully) does not need changing and then source details 
which are related to the individual and, therefore, must be changed for each. 
So , what is the probem? Or is it a problem that only splitters have?

Ron Ferguson


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> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:11:27 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting. Your method
> is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
> different facts or events. Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
>
> I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
> then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
> places it needs to go. It would save so much space and would help
> immensely when I find an error I want to correct. I wouldn't have to
> correct 10 duplicate copies. Instead I would just have the one linked
> copy to correct.
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, GA
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
>> Here is what I did (and am still doing). Everything NEW that goes in my
>> file gets a source like it is supposed to. Then, over time, I have been
>> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.
>>
>> I started with my paper files. I have my filing system set up like the
>> Family History Library recommends. I pull one folder at a time and enter
>> all the info for that couple. For example, if I had a death cerificate I
>> would add the death certificate info as a source for
>> the person's name
>> the person's date of birth
>> the person's place of birth
>> the person's parent's names
>> the person's date of death
>> the person's date of burial
>> the person's place of burial
>> the person's last residence
>> the person's spouse info
>> the person's cause of death
>> and anything other info I can glean
>>
>> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort. As long as you are adding
>> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the time
>> you need to get the rest of your file corrected. Start with your direct
>> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
>>
>> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing. The source
>> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
>>
>> michele
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>>
>>> Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of sources
>>> makes me ask it. I have been interested in family history for about 45
>>> years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, etc.
>>> I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now use
>>> Legacy, having previously used Reunion. And I now have to admit that
>>> virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!
>>>
>>> How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
>>> people in the file? I have tried to append sources but find it tedious
>>> and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up. I do
>>> realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious information.
>>>
>>> Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the non-standard
>>> information. In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth,
>>> marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it un-sourced
>>> and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places - for
>>> example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?
>>>
>>> Any advice please?
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Lee Anders]

Ruth,

I was simply explaining a feature that Gail would like to see in Legacy.

However, if you have one source titled "Obituary" that you use for all of
your obituaries, you would add the individual details (newspaper title, page
number, date, etc.) in the "detail" box, just as I am sure you have been
doing all along.

And I'm sorry if I added to the confusion, as that was certainly not my
intention.

:-) Lee

On Dec 29, 2007 1:03 PM, Ruth Nerud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Now I'm confused. I understand one source; i.e., Obituary. Then when I
> use that source and want to say it came from this newspaper or that
> newspaper, two different ones, where do I put the *detail* showing that one
> person's obituary came from a newspaper different from another persons.
> Maybe I've had too many sugar cookies, but I just don't get this one.
>
> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lee Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
> Forgive me for interjecting, but this is not the first time this confusion
> has arisen from the same mistake, innocent as it may be. Gail is actually
> talking about the *detail* added to the source, not the source itself. What
> she wants is to be able to do is link multiple facts to one *detail*. So,
> yes, there is only one copy of the source in your database, but each
> *detail* is treated individually, even if the source AND *detail* are
> identical to a 100 others.
>
> Lee
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 12:29 PM, Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a
> > single source to all these different places, it adds an extra identical
> > copy of that exact same source in the database".
> >
> > I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several
> > different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele
> > does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.  The
> > one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many
> > different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.
> >
> > Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different
> > people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate source
> > entries . . .
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > Gail Nestor wrote:
> > > Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> > > Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
> > > is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
> > > different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> > > single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> > > identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
> > >
> > > I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
> > > then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
> > > places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
> > > immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
> > > correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
> > > copy to correct.
> > >
> > > Gail Rich Nestor
> > > Smyrna, GA
> > > www.roots2buds.net
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in
> > my
> > >> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have
> > been
> > >> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.
> > >>
> > >> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like
> > the
> > >> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and
> > enter
> > >> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death
> > cerificate I
> > >> would add the death certificate info as a source for
> > >> the person's name
> > >> the person's date of birth
> > >> the person's place of birth
> > >> the person's parent's names
> > >> the person's date of death
> > >> the person's date of burial
> > >> the person's place of burial
> > >> the person's last residence
> > >> the person's spouse info
> > >> the person's cause of death
> > >> and anything other info I can glean
> > >>
> > >> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are
> > adding
> > >> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the
> > time
> > >> you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your
> > direct
> > >> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
> > >>
> > >> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source
> >
> > >> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
> > >>
> > >> michele
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Friday, De

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Ruth Nerud]

Now I'm confused. I understand one source; i.e., Obituary. Then when I use that 
source and want to say it came from this newspaper or that newspaper, two 
different ones, where do I put the *detail* showing that one person's obituary 
came from a newspaper different from another persons. Maybe I've had too many 
sugar cookies, but I just don't get this one.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Anders 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


  Forgive me for interjecting, but this is not the first time this confusion 
has arisen from the same mistake, innocent as it may be. Gail is actually 
talking about the *detail* added to the source, not the source itself. What she 
wants is to be able to do is link multiple facts to one *detail*. So, yes, 
there is only one copy of the source in your database, but each *detail* is 
treated individually, even if the source AND *detail* are identical to a 100 
others. 

  Lee


  On Dec 29, 2007 12:29 PM, Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra identical
copy of that exact same source in the database".

I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several
different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele
does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.  The
one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many 
different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.

Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different
people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate source 
entries . . .

Bob


Gail Nestor wrote:
> Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
> is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and 
> different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
>
> I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
> then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
> places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help 
> immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
> correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
> copy to correct.
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, GA
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in my
>> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have been
>> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else. 
>>
>> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the
>> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and enter
>> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate 
I 
>> would add the death certificate info as a source for
>> the person's name
>> the person's date of birth
>> the person's place of birth
>> the person's parent's names 
>> the person's date of death
>> the person's date of burial
>> the person's place of burial
>> the person's last residence
>> the person's spouse info
>> the person's cause of death
>> and anything other info I can glean
>>
>> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are 
adding
>> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the 
time 
>> you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your direct
>> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
>>
>> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source 
>> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
>>
>> michele
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources 
>>
>>
>>
>>> Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of 
sources
>>> makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about 45
>>> years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, 
etc. 
>>> I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now 
use
>>> Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that
>>> virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!! 
>>>
>>> How can I r

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Bob Janice]

Now it makes sense - thanks Lee . . .

Bob


Lee Anders wrote:
Forgive me for interjecting, but this is not the first time this 
confusion has arisen from the same mistake, innocent as it may be. 
Gail is actually talking about the *detail* added to the source, not 
the source itself. What she wants is to be able to do is link multiple 
facts to one *detail*. So, yes, there is only one copy of the source 
in your database, but each *detail* is treated individually, even if 
the source AND *detail* are identical to a 100 others.


Lee

On Dec 29, 2007 12:29 PM, Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
identical
copy of that exact same source in the database".

I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several
different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele
does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.
 The
one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many
different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.

Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different
people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate
source
entries . . .

Bob


Gail Nestor wrote:
> Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
> is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
> different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
>
> I wish so much that the source could just be in the database
once and
> then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the
various
> places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
> immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't
have to
> correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one
linked
> copy to correct.
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, GA
> www.roots2buds.net 
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
>
>> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that
goes in my
>> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I
have been
>> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.
>>
>> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up
like the
>> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time
and enter
>> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death
cerificate I
>> would add the death certificate info as a source for
>> the person's name
>> the person's date of birth
>> the person's place of birth
>> the person's parent's names
>> the person's date of death
>> the person's date of burial
>> the person's place of burial
>> the person's last residence
>> the person's spouse info
>> the person's cause of death
>> and anything other info I can glean
>>
>> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as
you are adding
>> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take
all the time
>> you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with
your direct
>> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
>>
>> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The
source
>> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
>>
>> michele
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>>
>>
>>
>>> Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this
talk of sources
>>> makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for
about 45
>>> years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts
inherited, etc.
>>> I have used a number of family history programmes on computer
but now use
>>> Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to
admit that
>>> virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!
>>>
>>> How can I realistically begin to address this problem with
over 3000
>>> people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find
it tedious
>>> and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give
up.  I do
>>> realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as seriou

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Lee Anders]

Forgive me for interjecting, but this is not the first time this confusion
has arisen from the same mistake, innocent as it may be. Gail is actually
talking about the *detail* added to the source, not the source itself. What
she wants is to be able to do is link multiple facts to one *detail*. So,
yes, there is only one copy of the source in your database, but each
*detail* is treated individually, even if the source AND *detail* are
identical to a 100 others.

Lee

On Dec 29, 2007 12:29 PM, Bob Janice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a
> single source to all these different places, it adds an extra identical
> copy of that exact same source in the database".
>
> I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several
> different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele
> does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.  The
> one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many
> different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.
>
> Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different
> people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate source
> entries . . .
>
> Bob
>
>
> Gail Nestor wrote:
> > Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
> > Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
> > is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
> > different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
> > single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
> > identical copy of that exact same source in the database.
> >
> > I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
> > then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
> > places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
> > immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
> > correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
> > copy to correct.
> >
> > Gail Rich Nestor
> > Smyrna, GA
> > www.roots2buds.net
> >
> >
> > On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in
> my
> >> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have
> been
> >> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.
> >>
> >> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the
> >> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and
> enter
> >> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate
> I
> >> would add the death certificate info as a source for
> >> the person's name
> >> the person's date of birth
> >> the person's place of birth
> >> the person's parent's names
> >> the person's date of death
> >> the person's date of burial
> >> the person's place of burial
> >> the person's last residence
> >> the person's spouse info
> >> the person's cause of death
> >> and anything other info I can glean
> >>
> >> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are
> adding
> >> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the
> time
> >> you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your
> direct
> >> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
> >>
> >> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source
> >> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
> >>
> >> michele
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of
> sources
> >>> makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about
> 45
> >>> years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited,
> etc.
> >>> I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now
> use
> >>> Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that
> >>> virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!
> >>>
> >>> How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
> >>> people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it
> tedious
> >>> and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I
> do
> >>> realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious
> information.
> >>>
> >>> Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the
> non-standard
> >>> information.  In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth,
> >>> marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it
> un-sourced
> >>> and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places -
> for
> >>> example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?
> >>>
> >>> Any advice please?
> >>>
> >>> Elizabeth
> >>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Bob Janice]

Gail - I'm a little confused by your statement "every time we attach a 
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra identical 
copy of that exact same source in the database".


I also use a single source, i.e. death certificate, to source several 
different facts and/or events - in fact very similar to what Michele 
does.  I have never seen Legacy duplicate a source numerous times.  The 
one source (death certificate in this example) is linked to many 
different events or facts - but is present only once in the database.


Can you explain in more detail how you assign the source to different 
people, events, and/or facts to cause the creation of duplicate source 
entries . . .


Bob


Gail Nestor wrote:

Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
identical copy of that exact same source in the database.

I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
copy to correct.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in my
file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have been
going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.

I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the
Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and enter
all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate I
would add the death certificate info as a source for
the person's name
the person's date of birth
the person's place of birth
the person's parent's names
the person's date of death
the person's date of burial
the person's place of burial
the person's last residence
the person's spouse info
the person's cause of death
and anything other info I can glean

It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are adding
sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the time
you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your direct
line and then go back and work on collateral lines.

Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source
clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.

michele
- Original Message -
From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources




Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of sources
makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about 45
years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, etc.
I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now use
Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that
virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!

How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it tedious
and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I do
realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious information.

Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the non-standard
information.  In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth,
marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it un-sourced
and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places - for
example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?

Any advice please?

Elizabeth
  




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Nancy]

 I guess I can be called a 'lumper'.  When I source a document (example:
Death Certificate) I make 1 source for that and use it with all my Deaths
that I use a Death Certificate for confirmation.  The difference in each one
is in the Detail line.  I put the vol and number and where I got the
information for that SPECIFIC death certificate on that line.  That gives me
one master source used in many cases for various death certificates.

Would that help you?


Nancy A. Daniels
10 Mary Rd
Eastham, MA 02642
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope Legacy
will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method is the same as
mine for attaching sources to different people and different facts or
events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a single source to all these
different places, it adds an extra identical copy of that exact same source
in the database.

I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and then
that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various places it
needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help immensely when I
find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to correct 10 duplicate
copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked copy to correct.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Gail Nestor]

Hi Michele, you have hit upon a scenario that is exactly why I hope
Legacy will consider a change in its source formatting.  Your method
is the same as mine for attaching sources to different people and
different facts or events.  Unfortunately, every time we attach a
single source to all these different places, it adds an extra
identical copy of that exact same source in the database.

I wish so much that the source could just be in the database once and
then that same source could be attached as a *link* to all the various
places it needs to go.  It would save so much space and would help
immensely when I find an error I want to correct.  I wouldn't have to
correct 10 duplicate copies.  Instead I would just have the one linked
copy to correct.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in my
> file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have been
> going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.
>
> I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the
> Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and enter
> all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate I
> would add the death certificate info as a source for
> the person's name
> the person's date of birth
> the person's place of birth
> the person's parent's names
> the person's date of death
> the person's date of burial
> the person's place of burial
> the person's last residence
> the person's spouse info
> the person's cause of death
> and anything other info I can glean
>
> It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are adding
> sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the time
> you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your direct
> line and then go back and work on collateral lines.
>
> Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source
> clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.
>
> michele
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
>
>
> > Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of sources
> > makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about 45
> > years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, etc.
> > I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now use
> > Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that
> > virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!
> >
> > How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000
> > people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it tedious
> > and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I do
> > realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious information.
> >
> > Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the non-standard
> > information.  In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth,
> > marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it un-sourced
> > and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places - for
> > example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?
> >
> > Any advice please?
> >
> > Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Timothy K. Cox]

If you read the first line, you would see that I stated you implied
providing information not asked for. Call me Crass if you will but I was
only stating the obvious for anyone who's paying attention. Why should I
treat your insensitive comments with such care? Generalities only add to
overall confusion. I guess you're not ready to move on.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

If you would read more carefully, you would see that I said "Early on I
merely provided information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document
filing system. I was raked over the coals for that." I wasn't asking for, I
was providing information.

 

I have asked questions, not daily or six times a day, as some do, and I
appreciate the answers I've received. I didn't comment on the overall tone
of the forum, only on certain individuals. I wouldn't be so crass as to name
names. 

- Original Message - 

From: Timothy K. Cox   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:31 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

Thomas,

 

Sorry to hear about your problems. Your statement implies you were providing
information, not asking for it. But, I wasn't there. My inquiry wasn't there
among these issues you stated. No one had a negative comment besides the one
you initiated and Jan's response. May I suggest you not bring baggage from a
previous bad experience into unrelated threads. I don't know when these
alleged issues occurred and I wasn't there so I won't presume to take sides.

Over time, forum memberships change and troublemakers move on or get ousted.
If your goal is sabotage of this forum based on your perceived bad
experience move on. If your goal is to learn and contribute to a better
experience then by all means contribute in a positive manner. I have
reviewed the various filing systems as well as Legacy's filing system (
linked from Legacy site to another site). If you are still needing supply
support, perhaps you should re-address your questions in a new thread and
stay positive. All I'll say on the other topic is that it does seem
counter-intuitive to Genealogy and obviously same sex relationships
discussions would be highly charged in any forum. I would not use that as
the basis for deciding the overall tone of the forum. Now the choice is
yours, hold on to bad experiences and spread the misery around or, move on
and be pleasant.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system.
I was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste
of time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and
privately attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships
when using Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of
maintaining more than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the
responses can apply to almost every genealogy softwre and could be
considered off-topic. Why are the pros and cons of maintaining more than one
file in a genealogy program on topic and the source of supplies needed to
maintain the Legacy document filing system off-topic?

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Timothy K. Cox]

Why invite something that hasn't happened yet? Address the problems as they
happen. Don't bring them into another discussion.  There are smug
individuals in any "public" forum. Let it go. Try another forum then maybe
you'll get it. Not every experience in life will be a pleasant one. What you
do in life, echoes into eternity. Everyone answers for their actions
eventually.

I got the answers to my question. Everyone was nice until this started.

Now can we please move on?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

That is exactly why I warned that lady when she asked about when Legacy 7
was going to be released that she was about to get her heat bit off :)
There are some pretty mean people on this list.  Some of them try to make
you feel stupid when you ask a legitimate question (What!  You are too
stupid to figure that out yourself?)

 

michele

- Original Message - 

From: Thomas Herson   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:43 AM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system.
I was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste
of time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and
privately attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships
when using Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of
maintaining more than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the
responses can apply to almost every genealogy softwre and could be
considered off-topic. Why are the pros and cons of maintaining more than one
file in a genealogy program on topic and the source of supplies needed to
maintain the Legacy document filing system off-topic?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Thomas Herson]

If you would read more carefully, you would see that I said "Early on I merely 
provided information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing 
system. I was raked over the coals for that." I wasn't asking for, I was 
providing information.

I have asked questions, not daily or six times a day, as some do, and I 
appreciate the answers I've received. I didn't comment on the overall tone of 
the forum, only on certain individuals. I wouldn't be so crass as to name 
names. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Timothy K. Cox 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:31 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases


  Thomas,

   

  Sorry to hear about your problems. Your statement implies you were providing 
information, not asking for it. But, I wasn't there. My inquiry wasn't there 
among these issues you stated. No one had a negative comment besides the one 
you initiated and Jan's response. May I suggest you not bring baggage from a 
previous bad experience into unrelated threads. I don't know when these alleged 
issues occurred and I wasn't there so I won't presume to take sides.

  Over time, forum memberships change and troublemakers move on or get ousted. 
If your goal is sabotage of this forum based on your perceived bad experience 
move on. If your goal is to learn and contribute to a better experience then by 
all means contribute in a positive manner. I have reviewed the various filing 
systems as well as Legacy's filing system ( linked from Legacy site to another 
site). If you are still needing supply support, perhaps you should re-address 
your questions in a new thread and stay positive. All I'll say on the other 
topic is that it does seem counter-intuitive to Genealogy and obviously same 
sex relationships discussions would be highly charged in any forum. I would not 
use that as the basis for deciding the overall tone of the forum. Now the 
choice is yours, hold on to bad experiences and spread the misery around or, 
move on and be pleasant.

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Herson
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:44 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

   

  I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to 
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided 
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system. I 
was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste of 
time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and privately 
attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships when using 
Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of maintaining more 
than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the responses can apply 
to almost every genealogy softwre and could be considered off-topic. Why are 
the pros and cons of maintaining more than one file in a genealogy program on 
topic and the source of supplies needed to maintain the Legacy document filing 
system off-topic?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Michele Lewis]

Another thing.  Any new documents that I add to my file that I have sourced 
properly gets a little mark so that I know I have properly entered it.  That 
way when I do pull a file I can tell which documents have been entered 
properly and the ones that still need to be.  All my documents are in those 
plastic sleeves and I just put a little checkmark on the plastic with a 
Sharpie.  If it is something like a letter or an email that I received from 
someone I just make a mark on the paper itself.  Same with anything that I 
have printed out from a database etc.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Michele Lewis]

Here is what I did (and am still doing).  Everything NEW that goes in my 
file gets a source like it is supposed to.  Then, over time, I have been 
going back SLOWLY and adding the sources for everything else.


I started with my paper files.  I have my filing system set up like the 
Family History Library recommends.  I pull one folder at a time and enter 
all the info for that couple.  For example, if I had a death cerificate I 
would add the death certificate info as a source for

the person's name
the person's date of birth
the person's place of birth
the person's parent's names
the person's date of death
the person's date of burial
the person's place of burial
the person's last residence
the person's spouse info
the person's cause of death
and anything other info I can glean

It takes a long time but it is worth the effort.  As long as you are adding 
sources for all the NEW info going in your file you can take all the time 
you need to get the rest of your file corrected.  Start with your direct 
line and then go back and work on collateral lines.


Legacy has some built in shortcuts to help with sourcing.  The source 
clipboard is a lifesaver as is the event clipboard.


michele
- Original Message - 
From: "Hope Bagot Bees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources


Here is a question that I have put-off asking but all this talk of sources 
makes me ask it.  I have been interested in family history for about 45 
years and a lot of information is on bits of paper, charts inherited, etc. 
I have used a number of family history programmes on computer but now use 
Legacy, having previously used Reunion.  And I now have to admit that 
virtually nothing is sourced on Legacy!!


How can I realistically begin to address this problem with over 3000 
people in the file?  I have tried to append sources but find it tedious 
and confusing to fill in the source data and usually just give up.  I do 
realise that this makes my work sadly inadequate as serious information.


Would it be a start to try to get my head around sourcing the non-standard 
information.  In other words, if the data comes from a standard birth, 
marriage or death certificate or parish register then leave it un-sourced 
and concentrate on those bits of information found in other places - for 
example a local trade directory or Will or Army record?


Any advice please?

Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Timothy K. Cox]

Thomas,

 

Sorry to hear about your problems. Your statement implies you were providing
information, not asking for it. But, I wasn't there. My inquiry wasn't there
among these issues you stated. No one had a negative comment besides the one
you initiated and Jan's response. May I suggest you not bring baggage from a
previous bad experience into unrelated threads. I don't know when these
alleged issues occurred and I wasn't there so I won't presume to take sides.

Over time, forum memberships change and troublemakers move on or get ousted.
If your goal is sabotage of this forum based on your perceived bad
experience move on. If your goal is to learn and contribute to a better
experience then by all means contribute in a positive manner. I have
reviewed the various filing systems as well as Legacy's filing system (
linked from Legacy site to another site). If you are still needing supply
support, perhaps you should re-address your questions in a new thread and
stay positive. All I'll say on the other topic is that it does seem
counter-intuitive to Genealogy and obviously same sex relationships
discussions would be highly charged in any forum. I would not use that as
the basis for deciding the overall tone of the forum. Now the choice is
yours, hold on to bad experiences and spread the misery around or, move on
and be pleasant.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

 

I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system.
I was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste
of time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and
privately attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships
when using Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of
maintaining more than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the
responses can apply to almost every genealogy softwre and could be
considered off-topic. Why are the pros and cons of maintaining more than one
file in a genealogy program on topic and the source of supplies needed to
maintain the Legacy document filing system off-topic?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Michele Lewis]

That is exactly why I warned that lady when she asked about when Legacy 7 was 
going to be released that she was about to get her heat bit off :)  There are 
some pretty mean people on this list.  Some of them try to make you feel stupid 
when you ask a legitimate question (What!  You are too stupid to figure that 
out yourself?)

michele
  - Original Message - 
  From: Thomas Herson 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases


  I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to 
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided 
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system. I 
was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste of 
time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and privately 
attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships when using 
Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of maintaining more 
than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the responses can apply 
to almost every genealogy softwre and could be considered off-topic. Why are 
the pros and cons of maintaining more than one file in a genealogy program on 
topic and the source of supplies needed to maintain the Legacy document filing 
system off-topic?

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Re: [LegacyUG] mysterious photos

[Leon Chapman]

To be more specific, It is the Descendant Chart report using Html
output format that does not include the pictures.
The pictures are include in the PDF version or the screen version of the report.

So, Yes this is clearly a Bug.

Chap

On Dec 29, 2007 2:16 AM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John.
>
> You are correct in saying that the HTML picture option in the Descendant 
> Report (as distinct from Descendant Narrative) does not work. Since the place 
> holders for the pictures are there, this is clearly a bug.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
> _
>
> For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
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> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
> > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:39:24 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mysterious photos
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >
> > I don't normally use the HTML outputs because most of the information on
> > the families being tracked will never be on a web page.
> >
> > However, I tried creating a Descendants HTML file tonight and there were
> > NO pictures (and the Picture option is on). Creating files for
> > screen/printer or PDF works OK. Family Group to HTML file and Individual
> > to HTML file do include the pictures (Legacy asks about copying images to
> > the reports folder to have the images show in the HTML page).
> >
> > Legacy 6.0.0.168 Deluxe, Windows XP SP2, current anti-virus.
> >
> > John
> >
> >> Many of the pictures I'm using are not even digital. To repeat: they
> >> are 300 pixels wide, 200 dpi and 1.5 inches. Every single one of them.
> >> What else is a variable here? And also, is anyone able to print photos
> >> at all in the html Descendants report with the pictures option turned on?
> >>
> >> JLB
> >
> >
> >
>
> _
> Who's friends with who and co-starred in what?
> http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Thomas Herson]

I beg your pardon. I can't tell you how many rude responses I've had to 
questions, both from Legacy staff and others. Early on I merely provided 
information about supplies needed to use the Legacy document filing system. I 
was raked over the coals for that. Several people told me it was a waste of 
time and off-topic. I've heard of others who have been personally and privately 
attacked for merely asking how to treat same sex relationships when using 
Legacy. While the responses concerning the advisability of maintaining more 
than one database may have been helpful, the topic and the responses can apply 
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the pros and cons of maintaining more than one file in a genealogy program on 
topic and the source of supplies needed to maintain the Legacy document filing 
system off-topic?





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RE: [LegacyUG] mysterious photos

[ronald ferguson]

John.

You are correct in saying that the HTML picture option in the Descendant Report 
(as distinct from Descendant Narrative) does not work. Since the place holders 
for the pictures are there, this is clearly a bug.

Ron Ferguson


_

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_

> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:39:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mysterious photos
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> I don't normally use the HTML outputs because most of the information on
> the families being tracked will never be on a web page.
>
> However, I tried creating a Descendants HTML file tonight and there were
> NO pictures (and the Picture option is on). Creating files for
> screen/printer or PDF works OK. Family Group to HTML file and Individual
> to HTML file do include the pictures (Legacy asks about copying images to
> the reports folder to have the images show in the HTML page).
>
> Legacy 6.0.0.168 Deluxe, Windows XP SP2, current anti-virus.
>
> John
>
>> Many of the pictures I'm using are not even digital. To repeat: they
>> are 300 pixels wide, 200 dpi and 1.5 inches. Every single one of them.
>> What else is a variable here? And also, is anyone able to print photos
>> at all in the html Descendants report with the pictures option turned on?
>>
>> JLB
>
>
>

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