[LegacyUG] ProMedia Manager
Has anyone had experience with the ProMedia Manager mentioned on the Pictures CD? It sounds neat, but I cannot find it on the Legacy Homepage. And by the way, we have an update: Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.89! **Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0005) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] missing sources
I need advice. My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who don't have ANY source. Yes, I confess. In the past I added names and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better job of sourcing as I add. However, I still have quite a few (hundreds) who don't have any source. I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can see at a glance who needs work? Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? What is the best systematic way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance for any advice. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to after, bef to before and especially change cir to about. Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86. Thank you, Ann Parsons Alamogordo, New Mexico Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish. 2) in Family Group, go to Report OptionsFormat and check the use short loaction names box Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600 I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to after, bef to before and especially change cir to about. Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86. Thank you, Ann Parsons Alamogordo, New Mexico Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by. While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to show on the computer screen or print outs. Regards, Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish. 2) in Family Group, go to Report OptionsFormat and check the use short loaction names box Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600 I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to after, bef to before and especially change cir to about. Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86. Thank you, Ann Parsons Alamogordo, New Mexico Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user
I only put that [as an AKA] if I have a record that lists the wife as Mrs. Benamin Jones. In the primary name field I will put UNKNOWN and then as an AKA I will put Mrs. B. Jones or Mrs. Benjamin Jones [usually you will find females listed as Mrs. something in obituaries. michele - Original Message - From: JCTripp jctr...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user I name my unknown spouse with Mrs. given name (w/o Benjamin Jones) as given name and Jones as surname. I use a like method for husbands with given name starting with Mr. Like your method Howland, my 'unknowns' appear on the name list with appropriate surname of spouse. In addition, I can search the name list by given name Mr. or Mrs. to see all unknowns of same sex together. Works for me. I thank you for posting your method to the list. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: howlanddavi...@aol.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user Listers: I had previously sent this out off-list to Ralph but have decided to send it to the list afterall. In a message dated 3/5/2009 11:50:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ralfs...@rochester.rr.com writes: 1. How do I add a “blank” spouse, i.e., indicate that a person has a spouse when the name of the spouse is not known? When I attempt to add a spouse without a name I get the error message You must enter a name to save an individual. I know that you have received at least response to the question above but I have a different response. If you use Unknown as the spouse and later you try to find that person, you will be looking through a lot of Unknowns. I have changed all of my Unknowns, and Legacy accepts my method (), as follows: make the spouse's name (spouse of Charles Smith) or whatever (would work for brother, sister, etc.). Now when you search under surnames, all of the unknown spouses will come up together and you can pick out the right one easily. Just my thoughts. Good luck with Legacy and keep asking questions. I know that I don't use anywhere near all of its capability so I read the questions and responses and if they look like I would like to do it, then I print/save the question and responses. Howland Davis howlanddavi...@aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07:20:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter templates in the newest update. I've already submitted a bug report, but I wanted to save all of you the worry if this happens to you. For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in Step 2 of the templates, you will get a Runtime Error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument. The two specific templates I've had a problem with are the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template. When you click OK, Legacy closes. I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug report. The Family record template worked fine, so I don't think it's a problem specific to my computer. BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop. If someone else tries this and gets a different result will you let me know? Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ann, Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to about stick for me. Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain. Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to about there then they should also be in your Report, can you check this please. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600 Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by. While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to show on the computer screen or print outs. Regards, Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish. 2) in Family Group, go to Report OptionsFormat and check the use short loaction names box Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600 I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to after, bef to before and especially change cir to about. Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86. Thank you, Ann Parsons Alamogordo, New Mexico _ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail
Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as opposed to Master source? For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire 1861. I have several records covering different streets and areas within Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can this be done? Try Search Detailed Search with the Primary Condition set as Individual, Source-Citation, contains, and enter the name of street or area. Then Create List Print. You will have to search and print a separate list for each street name/area, but at least you should be able to pull out the data. While I am more of a splitter and my work is almost 100% USA, (for this very reason; I have a master source for each township or enumeration district in each census year), I did have a roughly equivalent situation that this procedure was able to pull up for me. Let us know if it works for you. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum
Actually, now that I think about it longer, you may want to set the Primary Condition as Individual - Master Source - contains Lancashire 1861, then add a second condition as I described. --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote: Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as opposed to Master source? For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire 1861. I have several records covering different streets and areas within Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can this be done? Try Search Detailed Search with the Primary Condition set as Individual, Source-Citation, contains, and enter the name of street or area. Then Create List Print. You will have to search and print a separate list for each street name/area, but at least you should be able to pull out the data. While I am more of a splitter and my work is almost 100% USA, (for this very reason; I have a master source for each township or enumeration district in each census year), I did have a roughly equivalent situation that this procedure was able to pull up for me. Let us know if it works for you. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ron, I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh Eliz they have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the about changes to cir. In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife. In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh Eliza now have cir. I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh Eliz and saving, then re-entering the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son John. I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh Eliza have cir. Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that the program I use will not print about for parents. Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann, Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to about stick for me. Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain. Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to about there then they should also be in your Report, can you check this please. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600 Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by. While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to show on the computer screen or print outs. Regards, Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish. 2) in Family Group, go to Report OptionsFormat and check the use short loaction names box Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600 I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to after, bef to before and especially change cir to about. Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a
Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
Dede, Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field. On the Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first field. I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth. GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy. I've used, and loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right. The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better... Connie --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter templates in the newest update. I've already submitted a bug report, but I wanted to save all of you the worry if this happens to you. For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in Step 2 of the templates, you will get a Runtime Error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument. The two specific templates I've had a problem with are the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template. When you click OK, Legacy closes. I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug report. The Family record template worked fine, so I don't think it's a problem specific to my computer. BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
Very strange. I don't use the SourceWriter template, but tried to reproduce the bug by entering sources for the U.S. 1900 census and Artifacts. Worked fine - got to Step 3 with no problems. I'm running Win XP on a clone. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ron, I have to be away from the internet for awhile. I swear to buy a toothpick one must make a 200 mile round trip. I should be back late this afternoon. It is very kind of you to help me with this problem, I appreciate it. Ann Alamogordo, New Mexico - Original Message - From: Ann Parsons aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ron, I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh Eliz they have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the about changes to cir. In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife. In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh Eliza now have cir. I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh Eliz and saving, then re-entering the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son John. I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh Eliza have cir. Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that the program I use will not print about for parents. Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann, Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to about stick for me. Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain. Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to about there then they should also be in your Report, can you check this please. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600 Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by. While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to show on the computer screen or print outs. Regards, Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish. 2) in Family Group, go to Report OptionsFormat and check the use short loaction names box Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family
Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
did you try to enter an url as well? Because that's where I got the error 5. I get an error 5 in step 2 as well by entering a generic source. Testers have confirmed this bug and it's entered in the bug-tracker. Evert 2009/3/8 ci...@treadles.ca: Very strange. I don't use the SourceWriter template, but tried to reproduce the bug by entering sources for the U.S. 1900 census and Artifacts. Worked fine - got to Step 3 with no problems. I'm running Win XP on a clone. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Ann, Let me get this right, Are you saying that in the Family View where you have a Cir this has now been changed to About, but in the Family Group Report it is still showing as About? If so try using 1) The reset button for the Family Group Report and if that fails then 2) delete the Family Group Report .usr file. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:10:16 -0600 Ron, I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh Eliz they have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the about changes to cir. In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife. In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh Eliza now have cir. I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh Eliz and saving, then re-entering the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son John. I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh Eliza have cir. Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that the program I use will not print about for parents. Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann, Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to about stick for me. Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain. Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to about there then they should also be in your Report, can you check this please. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600 Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by. While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to show on the computer screen or print outs. Regards, Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann 1) Go to OptionsCustomiseDates on the right change the display column to what you wish.
Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
You didn't say in which line to enter the URL so I entered one in every line. Still worked fine. If you want to write to me personally with a blow-by-blow, line-by-line description of what you did to get the error, I'll try it again. So far though, everything works fine. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
No need to try it again or confirm the bug, because it's allready entered in the bug-tracker. Evert 2009/3/8 ci...@treadles.ca: You didn't say in which line to enter the URL so I entered one in every line. Still worked fine. If you want to write to me personally with a blow-by-blow, line-by-line description of what you did to get the error, I'll try it again. So far though, everything works fine. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Connie, Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues. Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system? Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab? I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking. Ward - Original Message - From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update? Dede, Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field. On the Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first field. I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth. GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy. I've used, and loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right. The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better... Connie ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM I need advice. My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who don't have ANY source. Yes, I confess. In the past I added names and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better job of sourcing as I add. However, I still have quite a few (hundreds) who don't have any source. I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can see at a glance who needs work? Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? What is the best systematic way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance for any advice. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail
Is this what you are looking for? Go to Master Source List; Print. Choose Only tagged sources, Master sources and all citations to each one. Include specific Events, Include citation detail. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz wrote: From: Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz Subject: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:23 PM Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as opposed to Master source? For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire 1861. I have several records covering different streets and areas withing Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can this be done? Regards Frances Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Rich, New to V7 were many new searches including SearchFindMissing Sources Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:47:40 -0700 From: fourpa...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden wrote: _ 25GB of FREE Online Storage – Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
I submitted a bug through the Bug Submission Form and received a reply from Brian after he confirmed that there was an issue. Once it was confirmed, it was entered into their problem tracking system. Mary -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ward Walker Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 12:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy Connie, Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues. Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system? Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab? I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking. Ward - Original Message - From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update? Dede, Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field. On the Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first field. I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth. GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy. I've used, and loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right. The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better... Connie ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIESmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.commailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.commailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM I need advice. My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who don't have ANY source. Yes, I confess. In the past I added names and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better job of sourcing as I add. However, I still have quite a few (hundreds) who don't have any source. I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can see at a glance who needs work? Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? What is the best systematic way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance for any advice. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:45 AM Connie, Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues. Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system? Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab? I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking. Ward - Original Message - From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update? Dede, Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field. On the Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first field. I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth. GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy. I've used, and loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right. The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better... Connie ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
We are still finding new stuff. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:20 AM Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIESmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.commailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.commailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM I need advice. My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who don't have ANY source. Yes, I confess. In the past I added names and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better job of sourcing as I add. However, I still have quite a few (hundreds) who don't have any source. I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can see at a glance who needs work? Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? What is the best systematic way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance for any advice. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
That said, I've reported several bugs via the Report a Bug interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps that's because they were already reported, but since they're still present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the customer support response? Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often fruitless threads on LUG. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Steve Voght wrote: Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a publiclist of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and oftenfruitless threads on LUG. I agree completely with what Steve said. Steve Voght wrote: That said, I've reported several bugs via the Report a Bug interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps that's because they were already reported, but since they're still present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the customer support response? Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often fruitless threads on LUG. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Your Search List is a Name List like the Index. As in the Index, Click the #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box to the right of each button. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Dede Holdenmailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.netmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] New family search.org
To Legacy and the List: I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search and I still do not get a answer as to the date. I have a lot of work to do so I am starting to use another program Ed in Mountlake Terrace Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Your Search List is a Name List like the Index. As in the Index, Click the #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box to the right of each button. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
Hello Ron, Back from my trek to the nearest town. In the family view for Hugh it has about for him his wife Eliza, also if one does previews their family group record. Thenwhen one goes to their son John and previews his family group record, John's parents (Hugh Eliza) have now changed to cir. Before writing this I looked at several other families that have a parent with an about birth year. These parents have about on their child's family group record. Of the ones I looked at it is just this one family. I tried deleting Hugh Eliza's birth year, and entering it again. Still cir. on their son's family group record. Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann, Let me get this right, Are you saying that in the Family View where you have a Cir this has now been changed to About, but in the Family Group Report it is still showing as About? If so try using 1) The reset button for the Family Group Report and if that fails then 2) delete the Family Group Report .usr file. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:10:16 -0600 Ron, I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh Eliz they have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the about changes to cir. In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife. In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh Eliza now have cir. I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh Eliz and saving, then re-entering the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son John. I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh Eliza have cir. Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that the program I use will not print about for parents. Ann - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Ann, Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to about stick for me. Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain. Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to about there then they should also be in your Report, can you check this please. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: aparsons2...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600 Ron, Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I checked the use short dates it works perfectly. The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I don't mean to be picky but the people I send
Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org
Ed maurer wrote: To Legacy and the List: I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search and I still do not get a answer as to the date. I have a lot of work to do so I am starting to use another program Impatient! Wait until the LDS have decided what they're going to do before asking the users (Millennia) to comply. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Dede, I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I am just imagining here, but could you tag those individuals from your search results and then use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal info but include tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN, and parent's MRIN etc. If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column widths to see all in one screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down. When you find an individual with both tag MRIN number, select Family View, add your sources, and untag that individual. Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work around because although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read about or tagged marriages. Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any individual that has the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and use that list. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
True, but going to the Family View of one spouse shows you the other. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Dede Holdenmailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com wrote: Your Search List is a Name List like the Index. As in the Index, Click the #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box to the right of each button. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.netmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] New family search.org
I attended a genealogy conference yesterday in Bountiful, Utah. While there, I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen and the staff about this issue. They reported that they expect to be fully certified with new.familysearch.com within the next month. We'll see, but that is the latest news I've heard. Dave From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ed maurer Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search.org To Legacy and the List: I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search and I still do not get a answer as to the date. I have a lot of work to do so I am starting to use another program Ed in Mountlake Terrace Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries, Newspapers, File ID
At 01:34 PM 3/7/2009, Frances wrote: I am trying to reduce my paper files. I was thinking about tossing out those things that I have transcribed e.g. Obituaries, newspaper articles and census recordings. ie those things that are easily accessible these days (but not birth, marriage and death certs). Any thoughts on this. I see no reason to save *any* paper documents, unless you are the custodian of a one-of-a-kind public archive. On the rare occasions when you need the paper in the future, you can print another copy. (Those few contemporary documents needed for legal purposes are an exception, of course). Transcriptions are fine for me *if* the actual form of the original doesn't convey any information. Transcriptions are important because they are computer searchable. But in many cases, the form matters too - handwriting where the transcription accuracy is uncertain, signatures vs a witnessed X, marginal notations in a different handwriting, etc. For such documents, I scan the original in grey scale (and color if appropriate) at sufficient resolution to encode all the visible information, and then save the scanned image as well as the transcription. The transcription should contain a reference to the scanned image. Computer hard disks now have so much capacity and are so cheap that there's no longer any reason to compromise on resolution. (a one terrabyte hard drive is now under $100. That's a million megabytes!) For this reason, it's also easy and cheap to keep multiple copies of everything on multiple disks, removing any concern about losing the data when disks fail. Archival copies on DVD's provide yet another redundant level of safety. Another factor is that for the old, faded, documents we often see, a good grey-scale scanned image can be enhanced to be far more readable than the original. In such cases, I save the raw scanned image as well as the enhanced image, because I might someday want to use a different type of enhancement. For my own purposes, copies of documents that are available from a large commercial database such as ancestry.com need not be saved locally. These databases are reliably backed up, and sufficiently valuable so that in the unlikely event that ancestry.com abruptly went bankrupt and shut down its websites, some other company would arrange to rescue the data. Electronic images or transcriptions of documents stored only on small private websites can *not* be assumed to be permanently available. These sites can disappear overnight and never be seen again. I will keep local copies of such documents in my own computer files. /daveDave Damouth mailto:d...@damouth.com www.damouth.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Steve - Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that have a public bug list? I know a couple that have lists like this or blogs. I guess I have just never seen a public bug list. Jackie Steve Voght wrote: That said, I've reported several bugs via the Report a Bug interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps that's because they were already reported, but since they're still present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the customer support response? Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often fruitless threads on LUG. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Jackie, I do not know of any company who is willing to tell their competitors where/what their problems are. In the context of software I only know of Open Source which allows this. Legacy is better than most as it at least allows open discussion on this list. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:01:03 -0500 From: jkin...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy Steve - Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that have a public bug list? I know a couple that have lists like this or blogs. I guess I have just never seen a public bug list. Jackie Steve Voght wrote: That said, I've reported several bugs via the Report a Bug interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps that's because they were already reported, but since they're still present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the customer support response? Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often fruitless threads on LUG. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA _ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
Adobe is actually fairly good about posting what they call the known limitations of their software, and as Ron mentions virtually all open-source projects have outstanding trackers and databases with test methodology to confirm fixes. Obviously if one commercial company is listing their bugs and the others aren't, it might turn off some users to purchasing that software, but consider the poor reviews we occasionally see for software that doesn't mention that some of its features are buggy, or simply aren't ready yet. All software has bugs, but acknowledging them and making it clear that they're being worked on would actually encourage me to consider a program over some competitor's software where everyone is just griping in the forums about how buggy it is, with no cohesive response from the company. Some acknowledgment about bugs and truth about where things stand (e.g. the fate of the Source Conversion Tool) would go a long way to alleviate current user concerns and encourage new customers to purchase the software. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Jackie, I do not know of any company who is willing to tell their competitors where/what their problems are. In the context of software I only know of Open Source which allows this. Legacy is better than most as it at least allows open discussion on this list. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Dede If you Search for individuals without a source under missing sources. Tag these with an unused tag. Go to File Export Legacy file (make sure you keep same RINs) Give this a name. When you open this new file Click on Marriage List (if it is on your toolbar) or View Marriage List. Then click on MRIN at top and it will sort in numerical order. Judy Dede wrote I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org
Dave: Thanks, We here in the state of Washington are using New.family search Ed - Original Message - From: Dave Johnson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New family search.org I attended a genealogy conference yesterday in Bountiful, Utah. While there, I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen and the staff about this issue. They reported that they expect to be fully certified with new.familysearch.com within the next month. We'll see, but that is the latest news I've heard. Dave From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ed maurer Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search.org To Legacy and the List: I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search and I still do not get a answer as to the date. I have a lot of work to do so I am starting to use another program Ed in Mountlake Terrace Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
I may have said it wrong. I didn't mention the auto-reply that says thank you, and we are looking at it. Because in the past, I saved all of my postings to/from techincal, and found that all were eventually fixed, or commented on at least in the negative. The best filing, one that chered me up, was a big change in L5, which from my reccomendation was added in verbatum a year or so later. About others of my real old ones, I was contacted in the last week, for clarifications. Does not mean a positive final answer, but they stated that they were reorganizing and revamping the monitoring sytem. What that MEANS is anyone's guess. But since last year, when fix dates were offered, and then unable to be met, and the tar and feathering they got because of it, means they are not going to estimate any more. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Steve Voght stevevo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steve Voght stevevo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 12:11 PM That said, I've reported several bugs via the Report a Bug interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps that's because they were already reported, but since they're still present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the customer support response? Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often fruitless threads on LUG. -Steve On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming update. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
I haven't tried it, but have you considered setting up a User ID system. You could use Jnsn001-Jnsn999, Smth001... Then they will sort in the individual index, and reports can only UID, or mixed with RIN. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, JCTripp jctr...@charter.net wrote: From: JCTripp jctr...@charter.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:46 PM Dede, I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I am just imagining here, but could you tag those individuals from your search results and then use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal info but include tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN, and parent's MRIN etc. If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column widths to see all in one screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down. When you find an individual with both tag MRIN number, select Family View, add your sources, and untag that individual. Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work around because although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read about or tagged marriages. Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any individual that has the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and use that list. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp