Re: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!

[Carl Cox]

<>

When I am comparing two files using decadency, I find that if I click on the 
slider block when changing sides, then it works as expected. The next click 
can be up or down, and it goes as commanded. Anywhere else the first click 
seems to work however it wants to.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Carl Cox]

<>

Why would you want to? I have tried to come up with some numbering system 
using just the 1, 2, 3, . . .  numbers that would logically work with 
parents, children, aunts, nephews, spouses and parents of spouses, etc., and 
get some sort of order to the numbers. It doesn't take very many numbers 
before chaos begins to set in.


You might want to select number one, then either go to parents or children 
or siblings for the next few, but then where? Changing those few by hand is 
doable, but after that a person is just a number, and the machine can supply 
that number just as logically as I can.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Screen, Tags, Desc Charts

[Judy Wardlaw]

Charlie
1  In the family screen can I show place of birth and/or place of death 
next to the children of the family?   . . . and the same for the 
grandparents?


If you go to Options > Customise > General > Popup Information Boxes, you 
can check Popup Automatically and then click Save. Then when you hover over 
the children or parents in Family View these details will come up.


2  In the Descendant Charts can I do a left to right rather than top to 
bottom chart?


No, not at present Although I think that it has been submitted as a request 
that many of us would like to see.


I haven't time to answer the third query. I have to go out. Someone else 
will do so.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Kramer]

Speaking of putting things on Ancestry.com, I was wondering what  
people's thoughts are. I personally don't want my info accessible to  
everyone in the world...at any point in the future.  I just want it  
available to authentic relatives.  There are ways to get the word out  
and then word offline with people.  That's what I've done so far.   
However, I would like to her other opinions.  I was just elected  
Family Historian for my mother-in-law's side of the family so I know  
that within the next year a family policy or something will come up  
among those I will be working with. My predecessor didn't have a  
cooperative working relationship in the way that I want to. Your  
thoughts are much appreciated.


Thanks!
Ellen

On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:


Jim Winfrey wrote
My question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your  
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more  
comfortable with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have  
to enter it in Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?


Well for a start I "do my research" all over the place using  
Ancestry, numerous other websites and all sorts places and people  
and use Legacy to record my findings!  I will always do that.


It's been a while since I uploaded anything to Ancestry (1), but I  
will get around to uploading more regularly one day.  What I *won't*  
do is upload everything in my file (definitely not pictures and  
probably not Events, definitely not Research Notes) and nor will I  
change anything from within Ancestry.  Basically, I will have a  
"tree" on Ancestry and from time to time I will exchange it for a  
newer one as I have added a few more names.


(1) For "Ancestry" you could substitute "Genes Reunited" or any  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Kramer]

Redoing customer IDs for over 3100 people is an unthinkable task.

God bless,
Ellen Kramer



On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Bert van Kootwijk wrote:

Why not using Customer ID's, they never change, unless you do that  
yourself. Remember, RIN's and MRIN's are numbers created by Legacy  
in record input order. They are meaning nothing, but are only  
nescessary for linking records within the program.


Bert


- Original Message - From: "SgtBob" 
To: 
Cc: "Kathy Shiell-Stokes" 
Sent: Saturday 29 August 2009 15:18
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe


From personal experience, be sure that that is what you do want to  
do - i.e.., change the RIN/MRIN numbering, expecially if you have  
personal File ID numbers associated with to your research papers  
based on these numbers.


I have been working for the past month or so trying to get my  
records straightened out because I did not observe the 'renumber  
RIN& MRIN' check box and to my great chagrin renumbering took place  
unbeknownst to me.  The result - all my hundreds of hard copy files  
backing up my digital files, based on a MRIN numbering system,  
changed and I didn 't catch it for about a month. In retrospect, I  
should have used only Master Sources instead of Detailed File ID's,  
but that ship has sailed. So, I have been laboriously working my  
way through 20,000 names to get back to some semblance of order.  
Right now I'm wading my way through a 60 page File ID report to  
identify those numbers that I need to correct. So far, I am about  
80-% recoved, but learned a valuable lesson.  I had 3 backups of  
my .fdb files, unfortunately, these backups contained the wrong  
information before I discovered it.


The end result - watch the little boxes when you change anything -  
they can have far reaching effects - you know 'the law of  
unintended consequences' is always alive and waiting. :-)


Bob

 Kathy Shiell-Stokes  wrote:

Ellen:
The best and easiest way is to export your entire database to a
gedcom and then import it into a new file making sure that,when
importing, you have ticked the box entitled"renumber  RINs." You can
select your starting point so rather than starting at number 1, all
records from this import could start at 3000. I believe several
LUGGers have some creative methods for numbering the RINs in their
file. I would caution you though that should you be composing
webpages, the RINs become the individual pages so such a renumbering
would be a really wholesale change and likely not one that  people
would take just for an afternoons entertainment. That said,
individual RINs  CAN be renumbered to suit your fancy, if at a later
date you need to make changes...
Kathy08:19 AM 29/08/2009, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some  
easy

>manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe?  snip...
>Ellen Kramer
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Kramer]

Ron, the RINs got messed up because I was tinkering to see if I really  
had to do them all by hand which is what was suggested to me before. I  
was the #1 person on my mother-in-law's side and now I was elected the  
Family Historian.  Some day someone else will take over my paperwork  
just like I inherited boxes of info from my predecessor who passed  
away recently.  I want to make sure that the lead ancestor in each  
line (family is so large it goes from A-V with thousands in each line)  
instead of me or someone else. I already imported my Legacy Deluxe 6.0  
into 7.0 hoping that it would give me the prompt at that point. I  
browsed through something in the help that made me think that I could  
do it in 7.0.  I did try the Check Repair and now I am #709 but my  
mother is #5.  She's not related.  Is there a way to renumber all RINs  
and/or MRINs that anyone knows of? I want to do it before I begin  
using the File Your Papers numbering system too.


God bless,
Ellen Kramer
101 South College Street
Myerstown PA 17067
(717) 866-5425
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Ellen,

Have you tried File>File Maintenance>Check Repair? I cannot imagine  
how the RINs and MRINs have managed to get duplicated numbers as  
this is a primary key in the database - actually I cannot see how  
Legacy is still functioning properly either!




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From: kramer...@comcast.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:19:18 -0400

Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy
manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe? I have several people as #1
now and it's just too many people to do manually. I was hoping to see
a prompt when transferring from 6.0 to 7.0, but it wasn't there.

God bless,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!

[MJ Harper]

Ron,

yes, I checked that.  The jumping around occurred whether the window 
was selected or not.  And the jumps were quite often extreme, bearing 
no relation that I could determine from where the cursor started nor 
from where the cursor was intended to end up.  I'm sorry, though 
comforted, to hear that Jenny has had some of these issues, also.


I've worked with it just a little today.  There is a jump when a line 
is selected, but only a burp of a jump, with the cursor then ending 
up on the intended line.  I've never noticed this before, but it 
could have been happening without penetrating my awareness.


Yesterday, closing the files, closing the program, rebooting the 
system, changing the mice, nothing seemed to help.  On booting up 
today, so far so good.  Hope it stays that way.


Mary Jo Harper
mjohar...@comcast.net

At 02:15 AM 8/29/2009, you wrote:

I believe it happens because you have to put the screen you wish to 
use in focus before you start to make changes, ie. the first click 
just puts it in focus or specifies that this is the sceen you wish to use.


This is a feature of Windows.

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> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:46:53 +0100
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!
>
> MJ Harper wrote
>>
>>
>>Ok, I have split view showing. On the right side is New Creation B. On
>>the left side is New Creation A. I'm checking each against each to
>>clean up old misbegotten merges and moves. So far so good, *Except* ...
>>
>>In list view: I click on Harry X. on list B. I click on Harry X. on
>>list A. The cursor jumps to Irma X., or maybe John Y, or maybe Mary A.
>>... ??? ...
>
> Well, I can't offer you an explanation of *why* this happens - although
> I can confirm that it does. However, I can offer you a suggestion for
> avoiding it. When you have selected a person in, say, the left window
> and want to now select the same person in the right window, *first*
> click on the title bar of the right window and *then* click on the
> person you want.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

[Tom Element]

Hi Gary

Good thoughts there, Gary.  I have heard comments before from several 
different people that Adobe does try to 'take over' one's computer & is 
rather 'invasive'.  All this drama started when my desktop pc stopped 
working & I chose not to repair it.  I have a new replacement here which 
probably has adobe set up on it, as the previous pc from the same 
company had.  Now and when I get it set-up I will make some side by side 
comparisons and see if anything is apparent.


Thanks for your comments, Gary
Tom

Gary Templeman wrote:
I believe the reason Foxit is working is that as a clean installation, 
everything is set up properly with it as the default PDF reader. Since 
it is working, I would be nervous about leaving Acrobat Reader 
installed, just because some programs try to "steal back" the file 
associations and your problem might come back. I would also ignore my 
previous message and not mess around any more with the "opens with" 
settings. Personally, I wouldn't "try things" and perhaps screw it up 
again, but if you insist, then please keep detailed click-by-click 
notes so you can reverse the mistakes.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - From: "Tom Element" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF


Much as I hate to give in & as much as I'd prefer to slog on to find 
the cause of the mystery of pdf's not opening from 'my' Legacy, I 
have taken Art's suggestion, backed by Bob & Darlene, and installed 
Foxit Reader.  It works perfectly!...and yes, fast!


Thanks very much to everyone who contributed; my understanding of all 
things except Adobe Reader has increased monumentally, I know much 
more about Legacy & I hope some others have also benefited along the 
way.


I will leave Adobe Reader on this PC and try things from time to time 
to get to the reason why it didn't work for me, and if anyone gets a 
great thought please let me know.  I'm a bit of a slogger so I'll get 
there sometime..  :>)  If I succeed you'll be the first to know. :>)


Regards
Tom

Art Seddon wrote:
With all this discussion of PDF files, I wonder if anyone who uses 
the free PDF reader "Foxit" has ever had any any problem with it.


Foxit is my default pdf reader as it is infinitely faster than Adobe 
and Adobe is constantly listed by
http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html as needing an update because 
of hackers.


With the speed, safety and never having a problem opening a file, to 
me it is a no-brainer. I have not had Adobe Reader on my system for 
several years.


Art Seddon


- Original Message - From: Ward Walker
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF


I meant the path to a PDF file, not to the Reader executable. When I 
type
C:\Users\Ward\Documents\Genealogy\Legacy Reports\some_file_name.pdf 
into the
IE address field, IE opens the pdf with Reader embedded in a new IE 
window.


My point was that if you can:
(1) Cause Adobe Reader to open the PDF by double-clicking on the PDF's
filename in Windows Explorer; and
(2) Cause IE to embed Adobe Reader within an IE window and display 
the PDF

by entering the filename and path as the browser's URL;

then Legacy should also be able to invoke Reader when you give 
Legacy the

PDF's filename and valid path.

If (2) does not work, then perhaps there is still a security/rights 
setting
somewhere that is blocking all programs from opening Reader for that 
PDF. A

long shot, but another clue.

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[LegacyUG] Family Screen, Tags, Desc Charts

[Vivien & Charlie Clarke]

I am new to Legacy so please forgive me if there are obvious solutions to these 
questions:

1  In the family screen can I show place of birth and/or place of death next to 
the children of the family?   . . . and the same for the grandparents?

2  In the Descendant Charts can I do a left to right rather than top to bottom 
chart?

3  Is there a quick way to tag multiple families as there is for individuals.  
eg if I want to tag all my father's ancestral families and their descendant 
families but not my mother's.

Thank you

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Re: [LegacyUG] Find people connected to a picture

[Kirstin]

Wow! That's exactly what I needed! What a wonderful tool!

Thanks Dennis!

Kirstin

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:47:21 -0400, Kirstin 
wrote:

  
A 
nice addition would be if it could find all people/instances of the 
picture being used.



For some reason I always forget about this because it's not someplace I
would intuitively look for it...

View > Scrapbook > Print Picture List

This might be of some use.
 
  






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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

[Gary Templeman]

I believe the reason Foxit is working is that as a clean installation, 
everything is set up properly with it as the default PDF reader. Since it is 
working, I would be nervous about leaving Acrobat Reader installed, just 
because some programs try to "steal back" the file associations and your 
problem might come back. I would also ignore my previous message and not 
mess around any more with the "opens with" settings. Personally, I wouldn't 
"try things" and perhaps screw it up again, but if you insist, then please 
keep detailed click-by-click notes so you can reverse the mistakes.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Element" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF


Much as I hate to give in & as much as I'd prefer to slog on to find the 
cause of the mystery of pdf's not opening from 'my' Legacy, I have taken 
Art's suggestion, backed by Bob & Darlene, and installed Foxit Reader.  It 
works perfectly!...and yes, fast!


Thanks very much to everyone who contributed; my understanding of all 
things except Adobe Reader has increased monumentally, I know much more 
about Legacy & I hope some others have also benefited along the way.


I will leave Adobe Reader on this PC and try things from time to time to 
get to the reason why it didn't work for me, and if anyone gets a great 
thought please let me know.  I'm a bit of a slogger so I'll get there 
sometime..  :>)  If I succeed you'll be the first to know. :>)


Regards
Tom

Art Seddon wrote:
With all this discussion of PDF files, I wonder if anyone who uses the 
free PDF reader "Foxit" has ever had any any problem with it.


Foxit is my default pdf reader as it is infinitely faster than Adobe and 
Adobe is constantly listed by
http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/signup.html as needing an update because of 
hackers.


With the speed, safety and never having a problem opening a file, to me 
it is a no-brainer. I have not had Adobe Reader on my system for several 
years.


Art Seddon


- Original Message - 
From: Ward Walker

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF


I meant the path to a PDF file, not to the Reader executable. When I type
C:\Users\Ward\Documents\Genealogy\Legacy Reports\some_file_name.pdf into 
the
IE address field, IE opens the pdf with Reader embedded in a new IE 
window.


My point was that if you can:
(1) Cause Adobe Reader to open the PDF by double-clicking on the PDF's
filename in Windows Explorer; and
(2) Cause IE to embed Adobe Reader within an IE window and display the 
PDF

by entering the filename and path as the browser's URL;

then Legacy should also be able to invoke Reader when you give Legacy the
PDF's filename and valid path.

If (2) does not work, then perhaps there is still a security/rights 
setting
somewhere that is blocking all programs from opening Reader for that PDF. 
A

long shot, but another clue.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

[Gary Templeman]

Correct. Tom, that was a mistake selecting Legacy to be the default program 
for opening PDFs. Legacy ITSELF is not a PDF reader. You want the reader 
program to be the default, then Legacy invokes the default program.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "C.G. Ouimet" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF




The default program should be Adobe.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Element
Sent: Wednesday August-26-09 07:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

Hi Jim

Right clicking on a pdf file gives a menu from which I choose Open Default
Program.  I had to browse to select "Legacy Genealogy Software
for Windows" as the default opening program.   The pdf still does not
open; actually it doesn't open at all as Legacy Genealogy Software for
Windows is the default and not longer Adobe!

I'm sure I don't understand exactly what you're telling me, Jim.

Jim Terry/Support wrote:

Tom,

When you right-click on a PDF file, you get a menu with some options on

it.

One of them is 'Open With'. When I mouse over 'Open With' I get the
choice of Adobe Reader, Legacy Family Tree and Internet Explorer.
There is also 'Choose Program'.

What do you see when you right click on a PDF?

If you click on 'Choose Program' you can then select Legacy Family
Tree, Internet Explorer or whatever from the programs list.

Thank you for choosing Legacy,

Jim Terry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

[Gary Templeman]

The error message is exactly as it should be. Legacy is not a PDF reader.

Gary Templeman



- Original Message - 
From: "Ward Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF



Jim,

I'm not sure what you are saying either. If I try to open a PDF file using 
Legacy, then Legacy starts up but displays an error message saying that 
the file extension is wrong and should be a .FDB file. I don't see what 
this experiment has to do with invoking Adobe Reader (or any PDF reader) 
from the appropriate window within a running Legacy session.


 Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Terry/Support" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF


Tom,

When you select 'Choose Program' the programs list opens. You should have
uncheck the box for 'Always use the selected program to open this kind of
file.' By doing that you would not have removed Adobe Reader as the 
default

program and would have Legacy as an alternative program.

You can reset Adobe to be the default program by going back into the 
program

list.

Thank you for choosing Legacy,

Jim Terry

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Phone: 425 788-0932

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Element

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:17 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery & PDF

Hi Jim

Right clicking on a pdf file gives a menu from which I choose Open

Default Program. I had to browse to select "Legacy Genealogy Software

for Windows" as the default opening program. The pdf still does not

open; actually it doesn't open at all as Legacy Genealogy Software for

Windows is the default and not longer Adobe!

I'm sure I don't understand exactly what you're telling me, Jim.

Jim Terry/Support wrote:


Tom,







When you right-click on a PDF file, you get a menu with some options on

it.

One of them is 'Open With'. When I mouse over 'Open With' I get the 
choice




of Adobe Reader, Legacy Family Tree and Internet Explorer. There is also



'Choose Program'.







What do you see when you right click on a PDF?







If you click on 'Choose Program' you can then select Legacy Family Tree,



Internet Explorer or whatever from the programs list.







Thank you for choosing Legacy,







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Legacy Family Tree







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RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[ronald ferguson]

Michele,
 
I don't think you really want to get rid of the Cs etc as they are the actual 
links to pages referred to by the letters, in other words the index.
 
The key is given on the first index page (unknown surname) and is:
 
Key: S=as a Spouse, C=as a Child, P=as a Parent 

When I'm feeling particularly keen I actually copy this to the top of every 
index page, but more often than I don't!


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> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:19:53 -0400
>
> I have already made a lot of changes. I deleted the meta tag list and
> replaced it with a reasonable one :) I used to be very good at doing web
> pages but it has been several years. It is going to take me a while to get
> back in the groove.
>
> Another question...
> On the name list that is generated, each name is followed by Ss, Cs, and Ps.
> Is there anyway to get rid of those. They are very distracting.
>
> michele
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find people connected to a picture

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:47:21 -0400, Kirstin 
wrote:

>A 
>nice addition would be if it could find all people/instances of the 
>picture being used.

For some reason I always forget about this because it's not someplace I
would intuitively look for it...

View > Scrapbook > Print Picture List

This might be of some use.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Find people connected to a picture

[Kirstin]

Yes, they are in the same folder, just have different names. And I was 
able to rename all the pictures in picture center without loosing any 
(which was not true before). I am also not a fan of picture center. A 
nice addition would be if it could find all people/instances of the 
picture being used.


Kirstin

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:12:04 -0400, Kirstin 
wrote:

  
I have a specific problem that I haven't been able to find an answer to. 
First of all I have 2 pictures that are identical. I want to somehow 
combine these pictures. I need to find all the people who are connected 
to the 1st picture, and connect them instead to the 2nd (identical) 
picture.



A few more details are needed...

Are the two pictures in question in the same folder? Just with different
filenames?

  
I also want to rename a whole lot of pictures. All of these pictures 
(including the ones mentioned above) are attached both to an event 
(Census event) and to the source detail. Again, how do I do this without 
loosing my source detail connections?



I am under the impression that if you rename pictures using Picture
Center, that all this will be magically taken care of. I am not a
Picture Center fan so I can't actually vouch for this claim.
 
  






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Re: [LegacyUG] Find people connected to a picture

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:12:04 -0400, Kirstin 
wrote:

>I have a specific problem that I haven't been able to find an answer to. 
>First of all I have 2 pictures that are identical. I want to somehow 
>combine these pictures. I need to find all the people who are connected 
>to the 1st picture, and connect them instead to the 2nd (identical) 
>picture.

A few more details are needed...

Are the two pictures in question in the same folder? Just with different
filenames?

>I also want to rename a whole lot of pictures. All of these pictures 
>(including the ones mentioned above) are attached both to an event 
>(Census event) and to the source detail. Again, how do I do this without 
>loosing my source detail connections?

I am under the impression that if you rename pictures using Picture
Center, that all this will be magically taken care of. I am not a
Picture Center fan so I can't actually vouch for this claim.
 
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[LegacyUG] Find people connected to a picture

[Kirstin]

I have a specific problem that I haven't been able to find an answer to. 
First of all I have 2 pictures that are identical. I want to somehow 
combine these pictures. I need to find all the people who are connected 
to the 1st picture, and connect them instead to the 2nd (identical) 
picture.


I also want to rename a whole lot of pictures. All of these pictures 
(including the ones mentioned above) are attached both to an event 
(Census event) and to the source detail. Again, how do I do this without 
loosing my source detail connections?


Kirstin





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Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[Michele Lewis]

I have already made a lot of changes.  I deleted the meta tag list and 
replaced it with a reasonable one :)   I used to be very good at doing web 
pages but it has been several years.  It is going to take me a while to get 
back in the groove.


Another question...
On the name list that is generated, each name is followed by Ss, Cs, and Ps. 
Is there anyway to get rid of those.  They are very distracting.


michele 





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RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[ronald ferguson]

Michele,
 
This is very much a matter of personal preference, mine being for Pedigree 
pages, although these are bigger. On my site for the n.w. of England Fergusons 
I use the Family Group style.
 
I suggest that you try each of the options out using a small family group, say 
2 or 3 generations, and tagging the direct line + siblings and using the tagged 
ones only.



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> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:17:07 -0400
>
> Which format produces the more organized/navigatable page... Ancestor,
> Predigree, Family Group or Individual?
>
> michele
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question
>
>
>
> Michele,
>
> Yes you can and there are various ways of doing this, but you can only delay
> having to find a new host for so long. Genealogy sites are by their nature
> big beasts!
>
> To best advise you please can you post the url of the site so I can have a
> look.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] as web site question
>> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400
>>
>> My web server has a max of 20MB. My file is already at 17.2. I have a
>> relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people). Is there
>> some way to reduce the size of the file? I generated the web pages using
>> the "individual pages" option. Does that matter?
>>
>> Michele
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[ronald ferguson]

Michele,
 
I was going to suggest that you compress your pages, there is free software 
which can do this for you and I will come back to you on this if you wish.
 
However, I see that you are including the whole of your surname index in the 
meta tags. Whilst I have read of some people recommending this it really isn't 
necessary as the only purpose is for the benefit of the Search Engines and they 
read every page anyhow, in fact you are more likely to confuse those who are 
searching.
 
If you work out the memory usage of doing this as follows: Let us say that on 
average each name takes 15bytes, and you have 617 unique surnames and 37pages, 
you will see that you are taking up 15x617x37=342KB.



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> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:10:29 -0400
>
> I figured out how to make my file smaller... I just cut out my husband's
> sie of the family! Actually, I do most of my research on my side anyway
> since he has no interest in family history.
>
> I have the page up and running but it is far from finished. I am editing
> the index page now to jazz it up and bit. I am also trying to figure out
> how the different checkboxes (options) will effect the page.
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/cranberryfrog/
>
> michele
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question
>
>
>
> Michele,
>
> Yes you can and there are various ways of doing this, but you can only delay
> having to find a new host for so long. Genealogy sites are by their nature
> big beasts!
>
> To best advise you please can you post the url of the site so I can have a
> look.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] as web site question
>> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400
>>
>> My web server has a max of 20MB. My file is already at 17.2. I have a
>> relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people). Is there
>> some way to reduce the size of the file? I generated the web pages using
>> the "individual pages" option. Does that matter?
>>
>> Michele
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Robert Carneal USA]

I do look at Ancestry, but no way do I take their word or information 
as guaranteed gospel. If I find Ancestry says my ancestor John Doe 
was born Jan 18, 1718, I do enter it in Legacy, but before I am sure 
of it, I look for another source that says the same thing.


Robert


At 2009-08-29  08:49 AM, you wrote:

I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?

Thanks,

Jim




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Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[Michele Lewis]

Which format produces the more organized/navigatable page... Ancestor, 
Predigree, Family Group or Individual?


michele

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question



Michele,

Yes you can and there are various ways of doing this, but you can only delay 
having to find a new host for so long. Genealogy sites are by their nature 
big beasts!


To best advise you please can you post the url of the site so I can have a 
look.




Ron Ferguson

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: cranberryf...@charter.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] as web site question
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400

My web server has a max of 20MB. My file is already at 17.2. I have a
relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people). Is there
some way to reduce the size of the file? I generated the web pages using
the "individual pages" option. Does that matter?

Michele


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Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[Michele Lewis]

I figured out how to make my file smaller...  I just cut out my husband's 
sie of the family!  Actually, I do most of my research on my side anyway 
since he has no interest in family history.


I have the page up and running but it is far from finished.  I am editing 
the index page now to jazz it up and bit.  I am also trying to figure out 
how the different checkboxes (options) will effect the page.


http://webpages.charter.net/cranberryfrog/

michele


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question



Michele,

Yes you can and there are various ways of doing this, but you can only delay 
having to find a new host for so long. Genealogy sites are by their nature 
big beasts!


To best advise you please can you post the url of the site so I can have a 
look.




Ron Ferguson

_

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View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_







From: cranberryf...@charter.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] as web site question
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400

My web server has a max of 20MB. My file is already at 17.2. I have a
relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people). Is there
some way to reduce the size of the file? I generated the web pages using
the "individual pages" option. Does that matter?

Michele


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Re: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:36:49 +0100, ronald ferguson 
wrote:

>Genealogy sites are by their nature big beasts!

Especially if you include pictures.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] as web site question

[ronald ferguson]

Michele,
 
Yes you can and there are various ways of doing this, but you can only delay 
having to find a new host for so long. Genealogy sites are by their nature big 
beasts!
 
To best advise you please can you post the url of the site so I can have a look.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] as web site question
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:47:46 -0400
>
> My web server has a max of 20MB. My file is already at 17.2. I have a
> relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people). Is there
> some way to reduce the size of the file? I generated the web pages using
> the "individual pages" option. Does that matter?
>
> Michele
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Marilyn Clark]

I guess it *is* an advertising hook for Ancestry non-members, but I have a 
membership in Ancestry (US only) and those annoying hints can sometimes be 
helpful, too. I connected with another relative who has a lovely 
well-documented tree with many photos out there on Ancestry, because I clicked 
on a promising hint.

I doubt that I would have researched all the trees on Ancestry, looking for a 
match, on my own. At least not right now, maybe later on in my research.

Quoting the OP to get this thread back on-topic:

"My question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your research 
there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable with Legacy but it 
means when I find something, I have to enter it in Legacy and again in 
ancestry.  How do other do this?" 

I am both a new Legacy user and new Ancestry member. I did put my Legacy db out 
there on Ancestry -- I do lots of my research thru Ancestry, and I use the 
'shoebox' feature on Ancestry to save possible research paths as well as 
documents I want to print and examine later on.  To avoid double-entry, I enter 
all my new, documented finds *only* on my Legacy database. I let the Ancestry 
one slide. The features there are cool, but I want my up-to-the-minute "good 
stuff" on my own PC, in Legacy.

I did consider simply uploading a new Legacy GEDCOM to Ancestry periodically, 
in order to keep the Ancestry file updated, but if you have attached photos or 
links to sources on the Ancestry file, they will be lost if you replace your 
original file. That's why there are so many seemingly-duplicated family trees 
on Ancestry. People keep uploading newer GEDCOMS and don't delete their older 
files.

The real downer for me is when I see a really good hint and it turns out to be 
pointing to my OWN tree!

Marilyn


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Fry  wrote:

> From: Mike Fry 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:38 AM
> Jim Winfrey wrote:
> > I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly
> so I could get
> > other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey
> studies.
> > Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had
> "hints" for
> > practically everybody in my database.  I don't
> particularly like their
> > hints unless it is census data or public records I can
> verify.  My
> > question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you
> do your
> > research there or do you continue with Legacy? 
> I'm more comfortable
> > with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have
> to enter it in
> > Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do
> this?
> 
> It's just a 'Come On' to try and get other people to
> subscribe. Do you really want Ancestry to make money from
> your research? Because, that's what it amounts to.
> 
> -- Best regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Kirsten Bowman]

Jim:

I would absolutely stick with Legacy as my primary program.  I periodically
upload a revised GEDCOM to RootsWeb (which then also appears at Ancestry)
but I'd never enter data directly to a database at Ancestry.  Instead, I
copy the reliable information (usually original images or record
transcriptions), enter it into Legacy with the formatting and sourcing that
I want, and it gets uploaded with my next GEDCOM revision.

IMO, Ancestry is leading its subscribers down the path to building yet more
garbage trees online with mindless research-free clicking.

Kirsten

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jim Winfrey
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:49 AM
To: Legacy Users Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com


I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?

Thanks,

Jim







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[LegacyUG] as web site question

[Michele Lewis]

My web server has a max of 20MB.  My file is already at 17.2.  I have a 
relatively small file as genealogy files go (about 5500 people).  Is there 
some way to reduce the size of the file?  I generated the web pages using 
the "individual pages" option.  Does that matter?


Michele 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Your question caused me to discover this whole 'hidden' part. By searching 
around, I found my 'individual tab' had a * and 26 photos. Next I moved to 
'all pictures' which showed 31 photos and a *. With furthur exploring found 
that all the tabs seemed to be tied to my Events, and since I have about 10 
residences, half with no photo attached, the pattern was discovered. I just 
switched to one of my 'private' tabs, then turned off Legacy and rebooted 
Legacy. When I went to my Gallery it had reset itself to Individual. IMHO, the 
program should default to 'All pictures' if anything. This is something that 
happened with the new update, since in the recent past, when I went in that 
gallery, I never noticed less than the 31. 
This is a 'bug?' from the most recent update 7.0.0.107, 20 Aug 2009.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> From: Jenny M Benson 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:38 AM
> Susan Perrett wrote
> > Does anyone know if the default can be changed/saved
> in the Picture Gallery, for anyone with multiple photos, so
> that the option on the right hand side selection, which
> always shows Individual can the default be saved to show as
> for ALL PICTURES?
> 
> I don't think you can do that.
> 
> Unless someone else pops up to say that you can, it might
> something to suggest as a new feature.  I can certainly
> see that as a benefit.
> -- Jenny M Benson
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Mike Fry]

Jim Winfrey wrote:

I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?


It's just a 'Come On' to try and get other people to subscribe. Do you 
really want Ancestry to make money from your research? Because, that's 
what it amounts to.


--
Best regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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RE: [LegacyUG] show half siblings

[Joan Lalonde]

Thank you very much Ron.  That worked.

Joan


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:38 AM
Subject: [RE: [LegacyUG] show half siblings



Joan,

To confirm, when you say you have ticked the box, I take it that you mean 
right click on Kids' names then View>show 1/2 Kids.


I can only suggest trying File>File Maintenance>Check Repair



Ron Ferguson 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Default location for photos

[Leon Chapman]

I agree you store you files and pictures  anywhere on your hard drive  
or thumb drive. Conceptually you could store each picture in a  
different location and as long as you assign or point to the picture  
location, Legacy will be happy.


The issue is what happens when you move to another computer - you will  
need to replicate and/or point to the location of each picture file.  
The other issue is backing up your files - you will have to back up/ 
copy each file from each location.


If you only have a few pictures, then everything is easy. In my case,  
I have several thousands of pictures - I want to keep it simple.  Try  
moving your files to another location, e.g., c/legacy6/ to d:/legacy7/  
and move your pictures to drive D. This is where simplicity pays off -  
same for backups.


Bottom line, if you like complexity, go for it.   In my experiences,  
the KISS principle works much better.


Sent from my iPhone
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On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Ila East  wrote:

I would disagree with the statement below. I have pictures in two  
main folders, with subfolders. I have one in documents/genealogy/ 
gravestones. The others I have in pictures/family and various  
surnames. I have no problem with them displaying in Legacy or Legacy  
finding them when I test the multimedia file locations.


Ila East

Leon Chapman wrote:



I would not recommend doing that.  Legacy really wants all of its  
pictures in one subfolder - they use:  c:\Legacy\Pictures\  as the  
default location.  You can change that location to somewhere else  
on your computer, but it will still only be one folder/location  
which in your case will not work.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Jenny M Benson]

Jim Winfrey wrote
My question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your 
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable 
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in 
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?


Well for a start I "do my research" all over the place using Ancestry, 
numerous other websites and all sorts places and people and use Legacy 
to record my findings!  I will always do that.


It's been a while since I uploaded anything to Ancestry (1), but I will 
get around to uploading more regularly one day.  What I *won't* do is 
upload everything in my file (definitely not pictures and probably not 
Events, definitely not Research Notes) and nor will I change anything 
from within Ancestry.  Basically, I will have a "tree" on Ancestry and 
from time to time I will exchange it for a newer one as I have added a 
few more names.


(1) For "Ancestry" you could substitute "Genes Reunited" or any other 
similar site.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Default location for photos

[Jenny M Benson]

Ila East wrote
I would disagree with the statement below. I have pictures in two main 
folders, with subfolders. I have one in 
documents/genealogy/gravestones. The others I have in pictures/family 
and various surnames. I have no problem with them displaying in Legacy 
or Legacy finding them when I test the multimedia file locations.


I, too have pictures in two quite distinct places - I have photographs 
of people and places and so in sub-folders within C:\Legacy\Pictures and 
I have Census images, scans of certificates, information copies from web 
pages, etc, which are all attached to Sources stored in numerous folders 
and sub-folders within C:\genes.


I see that at the moment I don't have anything in C:\Legacy\Docs which 
is slightly odd because I thought I had put some files in there! I have 
no doubt I will use that folder in the future.



As for naming of pictures and documents, which is mentioned elsewhere, 
this is something I wish I'd given a lot more thought to when I first 
started!  I am gradually changing filenames to more sensible and 
easily-findable ones.  Photos of individuals are "Surname, forenames 
RIN" with some further identifier as required, such as "Paul, Eileen 
Margaret 203 aged 6" or "Bloor, William Henry 166 in Investiture 
uniform".  Pictures of a wedding couple are "groom surname, groom 
forenames RIN = bride surname, bride forenames RIN".  Pictures of 
headstones, memorials etc are all together in a Graves folder, so each 
file is named "Gravestone - surname, forenames RIN" or "Memorial - 
surname, forenames RIN."


This is still very much a work in progress!  One thing I have found 
useful is having a set of "index pages" for all my group photos.  On an 
A4 sheet I print a copy of the picture and underneath the names of all 
the people depicted, along with their UserID (which is an identifier 
plus RIN, eg B7.149) working from left to right and in rows from top to 
bottom.  I title each page with a simple identifier such as "Horatio, 
Gertrude and their Children" or "Henry & Margaret Silver Wedding 1900" 
and in the header I print the full path and filename of the electronic 
version of that photograph.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Cathy]

Jim,

Legacy is my main place for entering all updates or corrections to my 
database.  However, I then upload  a copy of my family tree via 
GEDCOM to Rootsweb which is a subsidiary of Ancestry.com.  Rootsweb's 
URL is:  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/


My tree will then also show up on Ancestry under their  Family 
Trees--> Ancestry World Tree.  Their hints will also show up and I 
can use them or ignore them as I wish.


I prefer to have my tree on Rootsweb because it allows my tree to be 
seen by a larger audience then just that of Ancestry's paid 
subscription web site.  And I like the idea of placing my tree on 
Rootsweb where it is free and anyone can access it.


Cathy





At 09:49 AM 8/29/2009 -0400, you wrote:

I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?

Thanks,

Jim



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RE: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

There has been a firestorm in many forums about this as it is nothing more
than blatant advertising. When you click on the "Hint" you are taken to a
page that gives very little information about the particular hint and
further clicking on any of the suggested hints will take you to a page
inviting you to subscribe to Ancestry.com if you have not already. If you
are not a subscriber, you are not allowed to see any specific information
about the hint. 

There is nothing you can do about this, after all it is their server that
you are using. Just learn to ignore it.

Brian


-Original Message-
From: Jim Winfrey [mailto:jimwinf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:49 AM
To: Legacy Users Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?

Thanks,

Jim




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Re: [LegacyUG] Default location for photos

[Ila East]

I would disagree with the statement below. I have pictures in two main 
folders, with subfolders. I have one in documents/genealogy/gravestones. 
The others I have in pictures/family and various surnames. I have no 
problem with them displaying in Legacy or Legacy finding them when I 
test the multimedia file locations.


Ila East

Leon Chapman wrote:



I would not recommend doing that.  Legacy really wants all of its 
pictures in one subfolder - they use:  c:\Legacy\Pictures\  as the 
default location.  You can change that location to somewhere else on 
your computer, but it will still only be one folder/location which in 
your case will not work.



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[LegacyUG] Off Topic - Life After Posting to Ancestry.com

[Jim Winfrey]

I recently uploaded my database to ancestry.com mainly so I could get
other folks involved in finding links in my Winfrey studies.
Instantly, ancestry starting showing me they had "hints" for
practically everybody in my database.  I don't particularly like their
hints unless it is census data or public records I can verify.  My
question is once you put your data on ancestry, do you do your
research there or do you continue with Legacy?  I'm more comfortable
with Legacy but it means when I find something, I have to enter it in
Legacy and again in ancestry.  How do other do this?

Thanks,

Jim



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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[ronald ferguson]

Ellen,
 
Have you tried File>File Maintenance>Check Repair? I cannot imagine how the 
RINs and MRINs have managed to get duplicated numbers as this is a primary key 
in the database - actually I cannot see how Legacy is still functioning 
properly either!



Ron Ferguson

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View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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> From: kramer...@comcast.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:19:18 -0400
>
> Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy
> manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe? I have several people as #1
> now and it's just too many people to do manually. I was hoping to see
> a prompt when transferring from 6.0 to 7.0, but it wasn't there.
>
> God bless,
> Ellen Kramer
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] show half siblings

[ronald ferguson]

Joan,
 
To confirm, when you say you have ticked the box, I take it that you mean right 
click on Kids' names then View>show 1/2 Kids.
 
I can only suggest trying File>File Maintenance>Check Repair



Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






> From: billnj...@hughes.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] show half siblings
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:50:09 -0400
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently had a bad computer crash. My son had to reformat my machine, and
> I had to reinstall all my software including Legacy Deluxe. Now I can't get
> half siblings to show. I have the box checked but they still don't show. I
> welcome any help.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Why not using Customer ID's, they never change, unless you do that yourself. 
Remember, RIN's and MRIN's are numbers created by Legacy in record input 
order. They are meaning nothing, but are only nescessary for linking records 
within the program.


Bert


- Original Message - 
From: "SgtBob" 

To: 
Cc: "Kathy Shiell-Stokes" 
Sent: Saturday 29 August 2009 15:18
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe


From personal experience, be sure that that is what you do want to do - 
i.e.., change the RIN/MRIN numbering, expecially if you have personal File 
ID numbers associated with to your research papers based on these numbers.


I have been working for the past month or so trying to get my records 
straightened out because I did not observe the 'renumber RIN& MRIN' check 
box and to my great chagrin renumbering took place unbeknownst to me.  The 
result - all my hundreds of hard copy files backing up my digital files, 
based on a MRIN numbering system, changed and I didn 't catch it for about 
a month. In retrospect, I should have used only Master Sources instead of 
Detailed File ID's, but that ship has sailed. So, I have been laboriously 
working my way through 20,000 names to get back to some semblance of 
order. Right now I'm wading my way through a 60 page File ID report to 
identify those numbers that I need to correct. So far, I am about 80-% 
recoved, but learned a valuable lesson.  I had 3 backups of my .fdb files, 
unfortunately, these backups contained the wrong information before I 
discovered it.


The end result - watch the little boxes when you change anything - they 
can have far reaching effects - you know 'the law of unintended 
consequences' is always alive and waiting. :-)


Bob

 Kathy Shiell-Stokes  wrote:

Ellen:
The best and easiest way is to export your entire database to a
gedcom and then import it into a new file making sure that,when
importing, you have ticked the box entitled"renumber  RINs." You can
select your starting point so rather than starting at number 1, all
records from this import could start at 3000. I believe several
LUGGers have some creative methods for numbering the RINs in their
file. I would caution you though that should you be composing
webpages, the RINs become the individual pages so such a renumbering
would be a really wholesale change and likely not one that  people
would take just for an afternoons entertainment. That said,
individual RINs  CAN be renumbered to suit your fancy, if at a later
date you need to make changes...
Kathy08:19 AM 29/08/2009, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy
>manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe?  snip...
>Ellen Kramer
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[SgtBob]

>From personal experience, be sure that that is what you do want to do - i.e.., 
>change the RIN/MRIN numbering, expecially if you have personal File ID numbers 
>associated with to your research papers based on these numbers. 

I have been working for the past month or so trying to get my records 
straightened out because I did not observe the 'renumber RIN& MRIN' check box 
and to my great chagrin renumbering took place unbeknownst to me.  The result - 
all my hundreds of hard copy files backing up my digital files, based on a MRIN 
numbering system, changed and I didn 't catch it for about a month. In 
retrospect, I should have used only Master Sources instead of Detailed File 
ID's, but that ship has sailed. So, I have been laboriously working my way 
through 20,000 names to get back to some semblance of order. Right now I'm 
wading my way through a 60 page File ID report to identify those numbers that I 
need to correct. So far, I am about 80-% recoved, but learned a valuable 
lesson.  I had 3 backups of my .fdb files, unfortunately, these backups 
contained the wrong information before I discovered it.  

The end result - watch the little boxes when you change anything - they can 
have far reaching effects - you know 'the law of unintended consequences' is 
always alive and waiting. :-)   

Bob

 Kathy Shiell-Stokes  wrote: 
> Ellen:
> The best and easiest way is to export your entire database to a 
> gedcom and then import it into a new file making sure that,when 
> importing, you have ticked the box entitled"renumber  RINs." You can 
> select your starting point so rather than starting at number 1, all 
> records from this import could start at 3000. I believe several 
> LUGGers have some creative methods for numbering the RINs in their 
> file. I would caution you though that should you be composing 
> webpages, the RINs become the individual pages so such a renumbering 
> would be a really wholesale change and likely not one that  people 
> would take just for an afternoons entertainment. That said, 
> individual RINs  CAN be renumbered to suit your fancy, if at a later 
> date you need to make changes...
> Kathy08:19 AM 29/08/2009, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy
> >manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe?  snip...
> >Ellen Kramer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Ellen:
The best and easiest way is to export your entire database to a 
gedcom and then import it into a new file making sure that,when 
importing, you have ticked the box entitled"renumber  RINs." You can 
select your starting point so rather than starting at number 1, all 
records from this import could start at 3000. I believe several 
LUGGers have some creative methods for numbering the RINs in their 
file. I would caution you though that should you be composing 
webpages, the RINs become the individual pages so such a renumbering 
would be a really wholesale change and likely not one that  people 
would take just for an afternoons entertainment. That said, 
individual RINs  CAN be renumbered to suit your fancy, if at a later 
date you need to make changes...

Kathy08:19 AM 29/08/2009, you wrote:

Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy
manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe?  snip...
Ellen Kramer









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[LegacyUG] show half siblings

[Joan Lalonde]

Hello,

I recently had a bad computer crash.  My son had to reformat my machine, and 
I had to reinstall all my software including Legacy Deluxe.  Now I can't get 
half siblings to show.  I have the box checked but they still don't show.  I 
welcome any help.


Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe

[Kramer]

Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy  
manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe?  I have several people as #1  
now and it's just too many people to do manually.  I was hoping to see  
a prompt when transferring from 6.0 to 7.0, but it wasn't there.


God bless,
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Re: [LegacyUG] And Now ...

[Evert van Dijken]

Did you try Check/Repair (File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair)?
Evert

2009/8/29 MJ Harper :
>
>
> So now I'm in database A, index view.  I see that there are three James
> Bakers, three RIN numbers.  Two James have different parents.  The third
> James has no parents listed.  I click on Family view for that third James.
>  The family view that comes up is Irma Baker, who I've just deleted as one
> of two of that name, different RIN's, no parents, no relationships on the
> Irma I've deleted.  But she's still there and comes up in Family view when I
> click on family view for the third James I see in list view.
>
> Also, in list view, I'm up on the Bakers, and click one notch down on the
> scroll bar.  Instead of going to the Crawford's, for instance, it goes to
> the Whites.  With just the littlest click.
>
> Is this hardware?  Legacy itself?  What do I do to get these misbehaviors to
> stop?
>
>
>
> Mary Jo Harper
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RE: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!

[ronald ferguson]

I believe it happens because you have to put the screen you wish to use in 
focus before you start to make changes, ie. the first click just puts it in 
focus or specifies that this is the sceen you wish to use. 

This is a feature of Windows.

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> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:46:53 +0100
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!
>
> MJ Harper wrote
>>
>>
>>Ok, I have split view showing. On the right side is New Creation B. On
>>the left side is New Creation A. I'm checking each against each to
>>clean up old misbegotten merges and moves. So far so good, *Except* ...
>>
>>In list view: I click on Harry X. on list B. I click on Harry X. on
>>list A. The cursor jumps to Irma X., or maybe John Y, or maybe Mary A.
>>... ??? ...
>
> Well, I can't offer you an explanation of *why* this happens - although
> I can confirm that it does. However, I can offer you a suggestion for
> avoiding it. When you have selected a person in, say, the left window
> and want to now select the same person in the right window, *first*
> click on the title bar of the right window and *then* click on the
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!

[Jenny M Benson]

MJ Harper wrote



Ok, I have split view showing.  On the right side is New Creation B. On 
the left side is New Creation A.  I'm checking each against each to 
clean up old misbegotten merges and moves.  So far so good, *Except* ...


In list view: I click on Harry X. on list B.  I click on Harry X. on 
list A.  The cursor jumps to Irma X., or maybe John Y, or maybe Mary A. 
... ??? ...


Well, I can't offer you an explanation of *why* this happens - although 
I can confirm that it does.  However, I can offer you a suggestion for 
avoiding it.  When you have selected a person in, say, the left window 
and want to now select the same person in the right window, *first* 
click on the title bar of the right window and *then* click on the 
person you want.

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[LegacyUG] And Now ...

[MJ Harper]

So now I'm in database A, index view.  I see that there are three 
James Bakers, three RIN numbers.  Two James have different 
parents.  The third James has no parents listed.  I click on Family 
view for that third James.  The family view that comes up is Irma 
Baker, who I've just deleted as one of two of that name, different 
RIN's, no parents, no relationships on the Irma I've deleted.  But 
she's still there and comes up in Family view when I click on family 
view for the third James I see in list view.


Also, in list view, I'm up on the Bakers, and click one notch down on 
the scroll bar.  Instead of going to the Crawford's, for instance, it 
goes to the Whites.  With just the littlest click.


Is this hardware?  Legacy itself?  What do I do to get these 
misbehaviors to stop?




Mary Jo Harper
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Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?

[Jenny M Benson]

Susan Perrett wrote
Does anyone know if the default can be changed/saved in the Picture 
Gallery, for anyone with multiple photos, so that the option on the 
right hand side selection, which always shows Individual can the 
default be saved to show as for ALL PICTURES?


I don't think you can do that.

Unless someone else pops up to say that you can, it might something to 
suggest as a new feature.  I can certainly see that as a benefit.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Imported sources question

[Jenny M Benson]

Judy wrote
Thank you all for your suggestions. Sherry, I am going to try yours 
first, as you are familiar with Generations and I know exactly what you 
are talking about...whereas I am not familiar yet with Legacy.


If I were you I would take the time to familiarise yourself with Legacy 
quite thoroughly before you make too many changes to your file.  I know 
I am not in alone in having said to myself (many times!) "I wish I'd 
done it differently at the start."


In particular, I suggest you find out all about how Sources are 
documented in Legacy, decide whether you want to use SourceWriter or 
Basic Sources and make a few experiments with a few Sources and Reports 
to what suits you best.

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[LegacyUG] Cursor, Split View, Stumped!

[MJ Harper]

Ok, I have split view showing.  On the right side is New Creation 
B.  On the left side is New Creation A.  I'm checking each against 
each to clean up old misbegotten merges and moves.  So far so good, 
*Except* ...


In list view: I click on Harry X. on list B.  I click on Harry X. on 
list A.  The cursor jumps to Irma X., or maybe John Y, or maybe Mary 
A. ... ??? ...


Happens on either list.  It jumps from the name I've chosen to some 
other name, a long way down, right next door or somewhere up.  It 
happens over and over again, each time to a different place, however 
careful I've been to gently click, to firmly click, to be sure I'm 
not inadvertently pressing the back button, or the forward button, or 
the scroll.  It happens sometimes on list A or sometimes on list B, 
or back to back.  Then wherever it goes, I have to scroll back to 
where I want to be.  But as often as not, when clicking on the 
desired name again, it jumps all over again back to the name it 
jumped to the first time, or somewhere else entirely.  I'm so frustrated!


Also, when I've asked, on list B, to delete Mary Ellen Harris, and 
double check that that's the one that comes up in verifying the 
delete, when I actually click delete Mary Ellen Harris disappears, 
but many times now, also the person below her.  Gone, just simply 
gone.  I'm not deleting from list A, only from list B.  And I'm not 
about to try list A, not wanting to risk the foundational database.


I've tested with three different mice.  Happened with each one.  I've 
slowed the double click time to next to nothing.  I've treble-checked 
everything I can think of, and just cannot gain control over where 
the cursor goes!  What in the dickens is going on?!


Thanks for any ideas!



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