Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 7

[Jim Walton]

I've been running Legacy 7 on Windows 7 since the beta. Upgraded to
release candidate when it came out, and have since upgraded to the
retail version. No problems whatsoever.

Jim


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Jackie bakerj...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm running it on windows 7 but I'm a new user so I haven't asked it to do a
 whole lot. Gedcom import and looking at features. No problems though.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Christina Hruska bohemian1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I searched through the archives and the only answers were on the beta
 release of Windows 7. Now that is has officially been released has anyone
 try Legacy with Windows 7 yet? Any problem areas or should be a smooth
 transition. I will be installing it on a new system next week.

 tfyip,
 Christina



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Re: [LegacyUG] Remarriage

[Jim Walton]

Duh, why didn't I think of that grin

Thanks, Ken, I was negligent in not searching the archives first. I
can always claim the onset of senility, but I'll try not to let it
happen again. The last answer there was just what I was looking for.

Thanks all.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Ken genfol...@rogers.com wrote:
 Jim,

 Regarding the handling of couples remarrying each other following a divorce, 
 you may
 want to follow this thread which appeared in the Legacy Archives back in 2007
 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg09867.html

 Ken in Ottawa

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Remarriage


 I have a cousin that married, divorced, then remarried the same
 individual several years later. Should I treat this as two separate
 marriages or merely add divorce and remarriage events? I keep
 vacillating back and forth so would like to hear how some of our
 professionals handle this situation.

 Jim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tidying Up Addresses

[Jim Walton]

The country name generally erroneously entered as United Kingdom or
Great Britain is actually England. Great Britain is the island that
includes England, Scotland, and Wales. The United Kingdom includes
these three countries and adds Northern Ireland. I'm sure Ron will
correct me if I'm wrong, at least I hope he will...

You probably need to change your references to England as the country.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:47 PM, June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 I wait with baited breath to find out what I am doing wrong..

 Thanks for the search and replace suggestion Jenny.

 Regards

 June


 What I would do is each time across a location with, say, UK that I
 wanted to be United Kingdom(*) is use Search and Replace, selecting
 Lists - Location for the Find where.  Then repeat for Lists - Location
 Short and Lists - Location Sorted.

 (*) Except, of course, that I wouldn't have used UK or United Kingdom in
 a location name!  Oh dear, I'm afraid you might have set Ron off
 again!!!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about mass cleanup of location

[Jim Walton]

The problems with doing this are presented in the 2nd CD tutorial. If
you try to sort your localities by county or state, having the
cemetery in the city location will cause the city to sort as a county.
A better option is to use the + symbol by the burial and then enter
the cemetery location and address in the burial address field. This
way the location field can be used as designed, and the complete
address information is available.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 Randy Clark wrote

 OK, testing your method, I have a location:
 Warrington Reformed Lutheren Church, Dover Twp, York Co, Pennsylvania
 So I click on Sort (which has been set to right-to-left) and then can't
 find the location at all. This is why I thought that the use of parentheses
 was necessary. Am I wrong?

 Your list should still be alphabetical and if you slide down to the Ps you
 should find all the Pennsylvanias together and near the bottom of them
 Pennsylvania, York County and if you have several locations in York Country
 Dover Twp is probably one of the first and again, if you have several
 locations in Dover Twp I suspect Warrington Reformed Lutheran Church is one
 of the last.  (It's simply a case of knowing your alphabet, you see!)
 --
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[LegacyUG] Remarriage

[Jim Walton]

I have a cousin that married, divorced, then remarried the same
individual several years later. Should I treat this as two separate
marriages or merely add divorce and remarriage events? I keep
vacillating back and forth so would like to hear how some of our
professionals handle this situation.

Jim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Archives

[Jim Walton]

Hi Lyn,

HTML adds bold, color, and other fancy things to the text. The problem
is that it also slows the system down and some users are on slower
dial up connections so they have a problem getting the html messages.
I started out with HTML too, not realizing the impact.

So, no harm done and welcome to the list.

Jim


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Lyn chedo...@mysoul.com.au wrote:
 G'day All
 In looking in the archives I noticed that someone was not impressed with
 HTML being used.I think I just did it with my last message.
 I do apologise as I don't know the difference between HTML and plain text.
 cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] Former generations users

[Jim Walton]

You've probably already heard this, and you'll probably hear it again.
The absolute best way to learn the program is with the tutorial CDs.
The beginner CD is free and online, but you have to buy the others.
Personally I would like to see them all as a part of the package when
you buy it, but I don't regret for a minute that I went ahead and made
the purchase. It will walk you through all the main features with
video demonstrations as you go. I refer back to them now and again
when I'm having an issue with something.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM, S. Fry azg...@rsib.net wrote:
 Hi Judy,
 I used Generations EasyTree for many years before switching to Legacy 7. One
 reason I chose Legacy was its similarites to Generations in how data is
 presented (the interface.) But Legacy has so many wonderful features that
 Generations never had!

 The biggest tip I have for you is to learn to use the clipboards, both the
 Source clipboard and the Event clipboard. These are also two of the features
 that were the hardest for me to learn how to use. I read and re-read the
 help files Clipboard, Source and Clipboard, Event many times, and read
 postings to this list before it finally clicked for me. But once learned, it
 makes adding the same event or source to many different people an absolute
 breeze.

 The second tip would be to decide early on how to organize and name your
 sources as this will determine how they appear in the Master Source List,
 and it will make it much easier for you to find the source again. In Legacy
 the Master Source List is displayed in numeric and alphabetic order whereas
 in Generations the Source List is in order by the number assigned to the
 source when you entered it. There has been a great deal of discussion on
 this list about how to organize sources -- to lump or split, to group by
 state or by event (birth, death, marriage, etc.) and on and on. You can
 check the archived messages at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/

 If there is something specific about using Legacy that you would like to ask
 about, please do. There are many people on this list who have used Legacy
 for many years, who are always willing to help, and who know much more about
 Legacy than I do.

 If you want to contact me off-list, that will be fine also.

 Sherry
 azg...@rsib.net
 From Bowlegs, Okla.



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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Former generations users


 I would like to exchange info with ppl who have switched from Generations
 software to Legacy. I am having a hard time learning and wonder if someone
 there in my boat (or who has been in my boat) has any tips!

 Thanks,
 Judy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Setting Birth Location for tagged individuals

[Jim Walton]

Check out LTools from ZipperSoftware. It will allow you to view the
tables, enter sql statements, and a lot of functionality is already
built in. Check if out, it's a deal that is too good to pass up. (The
help has a list of every table and what it contains - very helpful).

Jim


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Roger Jarrett rhjarr...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi

 I was wondering if anybody can help with this problem.

 I have a large number of tagged individuals that I want to set their birth
 location to be the same. At the moment I cannot see any way to quickly do
 this other than editing each individual separately.

 I am able to use Microsoft Access and SQL if somebody could point me to the
 relevant tables and fields.

 Regards
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Re: [LegacyUG] Most have switched?

[Jim Walton]

One thing you may not be aware of is that you can copy your training
CDs directly to your hard drive and run them from there.

What I did was to create a directory called Video Training and under
that created a directory for each CD with the name, such as CD 1 -
Legacy for Beginners. Then I just copied the entire CD to that
directory. There are actually only two things you need to copy. The
program file, in the example Legacy_for_Beginners.exe and the folder
Media. The autorun.inf file is only used to start the program
automatically when you insert a CD so there is no need to copy that to
your hard drive. But, it won't hurt anything if you do.

The entire first series of 5 CDs takes up less than 1 GB on the hard
drive. In my estimation, it is a very worthwhile investment of hard
drive space. You now have a lot of answers right at your fingertips.

Jim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source details

[Jim Walton]

Wow, I got confused and I use the source clipboard all the time.

Here's step-by-step.

1. Open a new event and name it. I generally use Residence instead of
Census, but that's just a personal choice.
2. To the left of the description you will see a blue triangle. Click
on it. This will open the source clipboard.
3. On the source clipboard select step 1 to create a new source. If
you already have the master source created, just select it on the
master source list, or create a new one if necessary.
4. When finished you will be returned to the source clipboard where
you can fill in all the details you need for the individual involved.
5. Make sure the Prompt for Detail box at the bottom of the page is
checked so you can change information for each individual if you need
to.
6. Click Save in the upper right corner.
7. You are now back on the event page, so click the little dash just
below the triangle. That says to add information from the source
clipboard.
8. That will open the detail page so you can change name, etc. if you
need to. Click Save at upper right.
9. finish the event page and save it.

You only have to do this once.

To enter an event for another person, add the event, click the dash,
make any changes, save and done.

I recommend the training CDs. They cover this in a lot more detail
plus a lot more. It was a hard decision for me to make because I'm
retired and on a fixed limited income. But, I'm glad I did. It is well
worth the investment.

Jim



On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Angela Gabbard gabba...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Need some basic help.
 I am using the source writer and have created my source and attached to an
 individual.  I am now trying to attach the same source to a second person
 including the exact same details.  The source writer prompts me to enter new
 source details but I don't want to have to retype everything a 2nd time.

 What am I missing?

 Thanks in Advance!
 Angela




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations in England

[Jim Walton]

Thanks, Ron. You just saved me looking like an idiot on the B-G Forum.
I was just getting ready to ask this same question. A nice addition to
Legacy might be a change to the master list page. When you edit a
location a template pops up. Enter the country and the proper fields
then pop up to fill in. Kind of like the source templates. Maybe
somebody should suggest it. (I've already made too many suggestions
they don't like... grin)

Jim

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Brian Beddor wrote:

 I have a copy of a 1901 England census from Ancestry.com and the
 location is:
 Administrative County: Lancaster
 Civil Parish of Chatburn
 Ecclesiastical Parish of Christ Church Chatburn.

 How would I list this in the Location field of Legacy in keeping with
 the recommendation for 4 fields (city; county; state or province;
 country)?  Also, would the country be England or United Kingdom?

 I tried a couple of options but when I clicked on the Geo Location
 List
 button, it didn't seem to find it.


 Thanks,
 Brian


 Brian,

 As has been said many times on this list the *American* 4 field system is for 
 America (and it doesn't always apply there so I am told). It may apply in 
 your case, I'll look in a minute, but even if it happens to it will not for 
 many, many locations in the UK.

 And on to my hobby horse :-) The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Broitain 
 and Northerm Ireland, comprising the *countries* of  England, Northern 
 Ireland, Scotland and Wales; it is a Kingdom not a country, and over here we 
 do not have states. So the answer to this part of your question is that the 
 country is England *not England GB and *not* England UK.

 The next tier is the county, in this case the Aministrative County of 
 Lancaster, which for our current purposes is actually called Lancashire - 
 yeh, I know, it's in our blood to complicate things :-).

 When looking at parishes it is normal for us to look at the civil parish 
 rather than the ecclesiastical as the latter may just be the name of a 
 church. In this case they are the same, but that is happenchance.

 So, The full location is: Chatburn, Lancashire, England. Like I said - forget 
 4 fields, it doesn't apply, and to make it so would be incorrect. 
 Incidentally the 4 field system doesn't work for most of Europe either.

 Ron Ferguson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace in Source Detail, Name, Text/Comments

[Jim Walton]

From the main menu select Search-Search and Replace, or just type Ctrl-H.
Then clickk on the field that says Surname and scroll down the field to the
Notes field you want. This will do a global replace.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Christopher Barttels chrisbartt...@msn.com
 wrote:

  In the Family View, I click on the icon for Show List of Assigned
 Sources, which brings up Assigned Sources For:

 I click on Name then click Edit Detail, which brings up the Edit
 Source Detail, and then click on the tab for Text/Comments.  This is
 where I am trying to change hundred-plus occurances of coningum to
 coniugum.

 I hope this helps.  Sorry for the confusion.

 Christopher Barttels
 Dayton, WA

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 *From:* Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 11:43 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace in Source Detail, Name,
 Text/Comments

 I really do not understand what you mean. There are Given name, Surname,
 Dates-Birth, Dates-Baptism, Location fields for each and notes, for all of
 which one can use Search and Replace, so exactly where are you putting this

 word?

 Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to write notes

[Jim Walton]

I'm assuming when you say source text and source comments you are referring
to the detail text and comments. That's what I was saying, only not so
clearly as you did.

Thanks for the response.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 Jim Walton wrote

 When I create an event, where is the best place to enter the notes. Right
 now, what I am doing is if I quote the source, I put the quote in the source
 details. If I just make a comment in reference to the source, I put the
 comment in the event notes. I've not done a lot with reports other than to
 print a few for proofing, so I'm not sure how best to do this.

 I would like to know what other people do, and if there is a best way to
 do this to get the information printed on the reports.


 It all depends on what is meant by Notes!

 If I want to make a comment or note about the Event itself, I will put it
 into Event Notes.

 If I want to include the actual text of the Source in the Citation I enter
 it in Source Text.

 If I want to make a comment or note about the Source, I will make it in
 Source Comments.

 And while we're on the subject, general notes about the individual go in
 General Notes and stuff that is relevant to my researches and really only of
 interest to me goes in Research Notes.  I do not include the latter in
 Reports.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to write notes

[Jim Walton]

Thanks, Jenny. Hadn't thought about that for the web sites, but I like the
idea. Every day I learn something more from this list.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 Jim Walton wrote

 I'm assuming when you say source text and source comments you are
 referring to the detail text and comments.


 Again, it depends!  It's rare that I have a Master Source which doesn't
 have various different Source Details so Comments might go with either
 Master or Detail (or different Comments in both) but Text is more likely to
 go with the Detail.

 When my Source is, for example, a Website I will include in the Master
 Source Text a description of the website, usually copied and pasted from the
 site itself.  For example, The information included in the India Office
 Family History Search website is taken from a card index hitherto available
 only at the British Library. The card index was compiled by members of staff
 at the India Office Records from the mid-1970s onwards to meet the growing
 interest in genealogy.

 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Genelines

[Jim Walton]

Amen to that. And who are the worst at keeping our own counsel? Those of us
who work with computers every day and know better. One thing I will often do
with a downloaded program like this is to write it to a CD. That way I've
always got a backup of the original program. (This time I got smart and
sprang for the bundle which gave me a CD copy...)

Jim


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:25 PM, William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Make sure you back it up afterward.  One thing I've learned many times is
 you can't trust hard drives.

 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Diane Szabo
 Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:18 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Genelines


 Good idea - I'll give that a try.
 Thank you!
 Diane

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Genelines


 I would contact sales first. Seeing you paid for it, they would want
  to keep you happy. Unless, there is a newer version out and they
  can't get you the older version for some reason. Sales has always
  helped me; they are pretty helpful.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Robert
 
  At 2009-10-11  02:35 PM, you wrote:
 Hello.  Due to a major malfunction on my PC, I lost my Legacy
 Genelines program.  I have my registration key, but can someone
 explain what I need to do to download the program again without
 having to pay - again - for my subscription?
 
 Please and thanks,
 Diane Szabo
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Jim Walton]

I download this in Firefox with no problems. In fact, I don't even download
the program, I just select run from the download option page and it installs
automatically. (use the .exe not the .zip)

Remember, always back up your database before running LToos and then verify
the changes before you accept it as final. I always keep the last 30 days of
backup on my computer just in case.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Myrna mjorgens...@hot.rr.com wrote:

 In case anyone else is trying this and can't get it to download, try using
 Internet Explorer instead of your current browser.

 Myrna

 - Original Message - From: Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk
 
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example


  Michele Lewis wrote:

 I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son
 was born in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that
 his parents are dead.

 michele



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[LegacyUG] Where to write notes

[Jim Walton]

When I create an event, where is the best place to enter the notes. Right
now, what I am doing is if I quote the source, I put the quote in the source
details. If I just make a comment in reference to the source, I put the
comment in the event notes. I've not done a lot with reports other than to
print a few for proofing, so I'm not sure how best to do this.

I would like to know what other people do, and if there is a best way to do
this to get the information printed on the reports.

Thank you.

Jim

Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Walton]

In keeping with standard locations I'm wondering if I could consider the
ship as the city, leave the county and state fields blank, and use South
Atlantic for the country. At least that way it would sort properly. Then in
the notes I could give the details. Perhaps I'm being too critical.

Jim


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote:

 We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I want
 to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I would do it.
  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would mention buried at
 sea and which water area if that is what happened.  In Death Notes I would
 mention that the death took place aboard a ship in the South Atlantic or
 whatever the situation is.

 With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death notes if
 necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are so many people
 scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult for genealogists in
 the future.  For the sake of locating the burial location, if given a
 choice, I would choose to note the burial location.   The date of cremation
 is not an issue to me.  Death and burial are the important things, just like
 the date of embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note
 that we won't be able to find a burial spot due to a different disposal
 (gee, not very reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if
 burial takes place, that takes precedence.  If there is no burial, then I
 would note cremation to show that no burial took place.

 Ellen Kramer

 Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
 Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families


 On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:

  I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
 twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then
 was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.

 I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or
 the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.

 Bill Boswell
 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
 Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location

 I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
 death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

 On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
 buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
 then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
 entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
 don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
 this.

 Jim

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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Walton]

Thanks, Ron, that's what I was looking for.

Jim


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

  Jim,

 It is your database, so you can do as you wish. Nevertheless what you are
 suggesting would be incorrect. The usual way is to include at sea and, if
 one knows, it the name of the sea. I have a few of these and they sort fine
 at or near the start of the list: At sea, The English Channel, At Sea,
 The Atlantic Ocean etc.

 Ron Ferguson
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 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 *Sent:* 12 October 2009 07:15
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

 In keeping with standard locations I'm wondering if I could consider the
 ship as the city, leave the county and state fields blank, and use South
 Atlantic for the country. At least that way it would sort properly. Then in
 the notes I could give the details. Perhaps I'm being too critical.

 Jim


 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote:

 We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I
 want to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I would do
 it.  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would mention buried
 at sea and which water area if that is what happened.  In Death Notes I
 would mention that the death took place aboard a ship in the South
 Atlantic or whatever the situation is.

 With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death notes if
 necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are so many people
 scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult for genealogists in
 the future.  For the sake of locating the burial location, if given a
 choice, I would choose to note the burial location.   The date of cremation
 is not an issue to me.  Death and burial are the important things, just like
 the date of embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note
 that we won't be able to find a burial spot due to a different disposal
 (gee, not very reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if
 burial takes place, that takes precedence.  If there is no burial, then I
 would note cremation to show that no burial took place.

 Ellen Kramer

 Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
 Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families


 On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:

 I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
 twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then
 was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.

 I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or
 the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.

 Bill Boswell
 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location

 I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
 death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

 On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
 buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
 then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
 entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
 don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
 this.

 Jim

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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Emailing info

[Jim Walton]

Probably the best option would be to create a PDF file as almost everyone
has the capability to read that format. If they don't, the reader can be
downloaded free.

Jim


On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Kramer kramer...@comcast.net wrote:

 This may seem elementary to the more techie people, but how do I email a
 report, not the entire family file, to someone?  I wanted to send someone
 just her greatgrandparents on down so she could review for content and make
 additions and corrections.  I could only figure out how to print and mail to
 her.  That would make it more costly for me to do that for lots of people.
  Any detailed instructions would be most helpful.  Most likely these would
 be in the Descendant Book format, but some might be in the Ancestor format.

 Thanks and God bless,

 Ellen Kramer

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[LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Walton]

I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
this.

Jim

Re: [LegacyUG] Here is a good example

[Jim Walton]

When you go to Options-Customize-Data Entry to set the age you want them
to be presumed dead, you must then hit the Apply button. This will go
through your database and mark everyone over the selected age as dead unless
they have a date in the death field. So, if you decide to mark everyone over
100 as dead, and you have an ancester who lived to 102, Legacy will leave
that one record alone, but mark everyone else dead at age 100.

It is important that you hit the Apply button to change your database.

Jim


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.netwrote:

 I have a married couple that are both marked as living.  Their son was born
 in 1847.  I think that Legacy should be able to say that his parents are
 dead.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

Got a reply from Legacy and their response was basically like it or lump
it. Except I can't lump it so I guess it's like it or split it. Too bad
because I really think it would make a census much easier to cite.

Jin


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 I had not considered that as a possible reason as to why I am a lumper,
 Jim, but you may well be right. It certainly is natural way of working for
 me rather than something which I actually gave consideration to when I first
 started out.

 Ron Ferguson
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 - Original Message - From: Jim Walton
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: 07 October 2009 00:50
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information


 I guess my problem stems from my history with computers. I grew up in the
 days that if you did something on a computer more than twice, you write a
 program to automate the task. (This was back in the 70s when most people
 still didn't believe such a thing as a personal computer was very useful.)

 When I look at a list of sources, I would much rather see three or four
 sources that are easy to locate and then add the state, county, and city
 information in the detail record. I see the census as a single source with a
 series of volumes, one for each state. Each volume would have a number of
 chapters, one for each county.

 Guess I'm a lumper, but that seems much more practical to me. Just one
 man's opinion...

 Jim



 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 In theory, it seems as if that would be true. But I haven't done much
 combining of sources, so I can't speak with any authority. g

 Janis



 On 10/5/09 4:21 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:

  It seems to me that it is easier for a Splitter to move toward being a
 Lumper (by combining Master Sources)  than it is for a Lumper to move
 towards being a Splitter.  Do you agree?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

Evidence Explained says that a web site should not be used as a
repository, so I don't. The only time I would have a repository is if it is
a brick and mortar location like a genealogical library or personally owned
copy. Web documents are digital images, and most templates have that
capability. It's hard to find on some until you realize that a book image on
the web is considered a reprint, so select book, reprint, online book, and
then all the information goes in the right place. I had asked Legacy about
it and never got a straight answer. I found it by accident while reading Ms.
Mills and she mentioned the reprint issue.

The more I use Legacy the easier it gets, but that's the normal way of
things. Sure beats the old paper and pen method I was used to.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 Mike Fry wrote

 Perhaps this is why I see so many Americans opting to 'split' and
 Europeans opting to 'lump'! If so, then aren't the lumpers confusing
 Source and Repository?


 I don't make a great deal of use of Repository I must admit.  An example
 of one of my Census Sources (first time citation) reads

 1851 census of England; digital images, The Generations Network, Ancestry (
 www.ancestry.co.uk); citing PRO HO107; Original data: Census Returns of
 England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the
 UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851. Data imaged from the National
 Archives, London, England.

 At the moment, all my Census information has come from Ancestry. In due
 course I will be obtaining some from FindMyPast, at which time I will add
 additional Master Sources for the Censuses from FMP.

 By the same token, I have several different Birth/Marriage/Death Index
 Master Sources because I access the GRO ones from both FreeBMD and Ancestry
 and Ancestry and have made various changes to their databases over the years
 and each Master Source relates to one database.

 So perhaps I'm not as much of a lumper as some database purists would like,
 but I definitely class myself as a lumper rather than a splitter!
 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[Jim Walton]

A pdf file is an image, similar to a jpg file. If it is created from a text
file it has a text layer that can be indexed and modified, etc. It's quite
easy to move a text or rtf file into pdf format, but a totally different
matter to go the other way.

I think the problem is that Legacy is a genealogical tool, not a reporting
tool. The reporting section is very cumbersome and has no real formatting
capabilities beyond the bare minimum. It might be better for them to partner
with another company/program for the reporting functions. So far the main
use I've seen in the report feature is to dump reports to the printer for
proofreading and database corrections. I could never conceive of using it to
create a document for publication.

I did try to create one rtf report and got a single page that told me I
could now import into my word processor and create an index because all the
headings used heading tags. Very convenient, but the rest of the report was
blank. (grin)

Jim

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

 The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The
 Index/Indices is shown/printed.  When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) the
 Index/Indices are NOT!

 If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL
 permissible formats!


 CE

 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
 reports

 It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
 will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
 of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf.
 Pedigree
 will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
 certainly capable of doing it. My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and
 importing a pdf of group sheets, etc. as images into the document. I'm just
 disappointed that I can't create an rtf of the source report so that I
 could
 then create a bibliography and reference that in my text.

 Jim

 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:
 I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and
 Lineage
 Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
 file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
 indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.

 Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
 chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.

 And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
 the first chapter.


 CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[Jim Walton]

I agree totally. I think the report tool should be used for personal reports
for either archiving or editing purposes, and a totally separate program
needs to be used for publishing. Naturally users of the program would like
an all-in-one solution, but Microsoft can't even get their suite of office
apps to play nice together. I think the Legacy programmers should stick to
what they do best, creating the best genealogy program available. That's why
I suggested a partnership with another group whose specialty is publishing.
A good team would be unbeatable. All that needs to be done is to create
hooks between the two so that there is a seamless interface between what
Legacy produces and what the document writer needs.

I think that for Millennia to get wrapped around the documentation axle
would detract from what they need to be doing, keeping the best program as
the best.

Jim


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Jim,

 Whilst I broadly agree with you comments regarding the Legacy reporting
 (except for the blank page which I have never experienced) as I have said
 before, it is my belief that those asking for what would amount to a fully
 fledged word processor as part of the program are asking for far too much.
 The total size of the package would be far too big for many, and why should
 Legacy reinvent the wheel when it is there in Word, Open Office and a number
 of other programs.

 If it is ever done then let us add onto the list a fully fledged web page
 designer, after all, why should the web creation section of users be not
 have an equivalent tool for their chosen method of publication. Naturally,
 it should have the attributes of Dreamweaver or Front Page in order to meet
 all the demands which may be required. It shouldn't really be any bigger
 than a word processor and the total package should come in at not a lot more
 than 200MB.

 Pity that this is too big for Africa and the rural areas of many other
 countries (including the USA) where dial up is on the only access, but those
 of us with broadband should be fine. Or maybe we should have several
 different versions with escalating prices in order to meet all the available
 customisations.

 Please don't think that I am suggesting for one minute, Jim, that this is
 your view, I feel sure that it isn't. In one form or an other this argument
 has been going on for years, so please excuse the rant :-)

 Ron Ferguson

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 - Original Message - From: Jim Walton
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: 07 October 2009 20:42

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
 reports


 A pdf file is an image, similar to a jpg file. If it is created from a text
 file it has a text layer that can be indexed and modified, etc. It's quite
 easy to move a text or rtf file into pdf format, but a totally different
 matter to go the other way.

 I think the problem is that Legacy is a genealogical tool, not a reporting
 tool. The reporting section is very cumbersome and has no real formatting
 capabilities beyond the bare minimum. It might be better for them to partner
 with another company/program for the reporting functions. So far the main
 use I've seen in the report feature is to dump reports to the printer for
 proofreading and database corrections. I could never conceive of using it to
 create a document for publication.

 I did try to create one rtf report and got a single page that told me I
 could now import into my word processor and create an index because all the
 headings used heading tags. Very convenient, but the rest of the report was
 blank. (grin)

 Jim


 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

 The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The
 Index/Indices is shown/printed.  When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) the
 Index/Indices are NOT!

 If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL
 permissible formats!


 CE

 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
 reports


 It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
 will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
 of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf.
 Pedigree
 will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
 certainly capable of doing it. My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and
 importing

Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

I guess my problem stems from my history with computers. I grew up in the
days that if you did something on a computer more than twice, you write a
program to automate the task. (This was back in the 70s when most people
still didn't believe such a thing as a personal computer was very useful.)

When I look at a list of sources, I would much rather see three or four
sources that are easy to locate and then add the state, county, and city
information in the detail record. I see the census as a single source with a
series of volumes, one for each state. Each volume would have a number of
chapters, one for each county.

Guess I'm a lumper, but that seems much more practical to me. Just one
man's opinion...

Jim


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.netwrote:

 In theory, it seems as if that would be true. But I haven't done much
 combining of sources, so I can't speak with any authority. g

 Janis


 On 10/5/09 4:21 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:

  It seems to me that it is easier for a Splitter to move toward being a
  Lumper (by combining Master Sources)  than it is for a Lumper to move
  towards being a Splitter.  Do you agree?
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net
  wrote:





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Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[Jim Walton]

It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf. Pedigree
will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
certainly capable of doing it. My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and
importing a pdf of group sheets, etc. as images into the document. I'm just
disappointed that I can't create an rtf of the source report so that I could
then create a bibliography and reference that in my text.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

 I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and
 Lineage
 Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
 file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
 indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.

 Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
 chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.

 And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
 the first chapter.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

Agreed, and I'm having an issue right now with some state documents that
contain many volumes, but every document has a separate title. Fortunately
only a handfull of records are affected, but it looks like I'm going to have
to split in this case and make every volume a separate source. So, I guess
it works both ways.

Jim


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have gone the other way (splitting one master source into multiple),
 and it was a *lot* of work.

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
  In theory, it seems as if that would be true. But I haven't done much
  combining of sources, so I can't speak with any authority. g
 
  Janis
 
 
  On 10/5/09 4:21 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  It seems to me that it is easier for a Splitter to move toward being a
  Lumper (by combining Master Sources)  than it is for a Lumper to move
  towards being a Splitter.  Do you agree?
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

Would that also include the details attached to that source? I've not
tried the search function, so not sure how it will work. I'm real new
to Legacy, so still feeling my way along as I go. When I bought the
bundle I didn't see the second set of tutorial CDs so maybe I need to
invest in them too.

Jim


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 You can't beat a good cringe!

 Don't forget that in V7 one can search the Source Citations for eg. contains
 Alabama (SeachFindDetailed Search).

 Ron Ferguson
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 Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Jim:

 You're welcome.  But just be forewarned:  Someday you might want to
 know which families were all living in the same state at the same
 time . . . or the same county.  Then you'll be on the road to
 splitting.  I split at the county level and probably have well over
 200 census sources but it bothers me not at all.  (A certain Ron is
 cringing at this G.)

 Kirsten


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census information


 Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it
 that way.

 You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with
 50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790
 census would have at least 13 sources plus the counties.  Even
 narrowing it
 down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a
 Puerto Rico and Guam.

 But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work
 as
 a work-around. Thanks again.

 Jim


 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
 wrote:

 Jim:

 That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do. (And
 just

 today

 I wrote that I'm reforming from this!)

 Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US
 Census

 and

 leave out the other location details. Then on the Source Detail
 screen on the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in
 the ID of

 Person

 field. That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation.

 Kirsten

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 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information


 I record census information as part of residency then I can do a
 chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be
 related.
 I then use the source writer for the census information and
 supplement it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc.
 that clarify the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source
 writer asks for
 the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail.
 That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because
 different states and counties are involved. I want a single source
 for 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New
 Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local
 information.

 I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the
 override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to
 get some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities.

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[LegacyUG] sorting children

[Jim Walton]

Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in
date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that
need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time.
Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or
GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind...

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Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children

[Jim Walton]

Good point, Dawn. It's just that I've spent the better part of the
last hour cleaning up other people's messes and was hoping for a quick
fix (which may not have been a quick fix.) Guess I just need to take a
break, then come back and do it...

Thanks for the thought...

Jim


On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Dawn Crowley
sc...@relatively-speaking.org wrote:
 I cannot think of a bulk way to do this.  Besides, doing this en masse could
 also unintentionally change the order of children where the order is known,
 but dates are not.

 Dawn

 Jim Walton wrote:

 Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in
 date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that
 need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time.
 Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or
 GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind...

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Re: [LegacyUG] sorting children

[Jim Walton]

Ha, you're one step ahead of the game, Dennis. Downloaded the update,
ran the sort, and it works like a champ. Thanks. You just saved me a
lot of time and headache.

Jim


On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:34:35 -0700, Dawn Crowley
 sc...@relatively-speaking.org wrote:

Besides, doing this en masse
could also unintentionally change the order of children where the order
is known, but dates are not.

 It all depends on how it is implemented. It could certainly be coded to
 only sort families where *all* the children have a date.

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[LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

I record census information as part of residency then I can do a
chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related.
I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement
it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify
the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for
the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail.
That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because
different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for
1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New
Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information.

I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the
override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get
some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname

[Jim Walton]

My grandfather's name was Irvin, but he is often referred to as
Irving. He never used that name, yet if someone is searching for
Irving they will not find him unless I add Irving as an AKA. So I
would suggest that the AKA should be used, even if the person never
used the name. I have a note on my grandfather's record that his name
is Irvin and Irving is a disproven name so that perhaps someone will
find my record and correct theirs accordingly.

Jim


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 But I would only use the alternative name as an AKA if there is evidence
 that an individual actually used both variations, or was recorded in
 different documents with both variations.  My late first husband’s
 grandmother was always Georgina DANIELS (until her marriage), but other
 branches of the family use the name DANIEL.  As she never used DANIEL and I
 have never seen her documented as DANIEL I do not use DANIEL as an AKA for
 her.



 Cheers

 Jan

 

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 Of Jane Sarles
 Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 5:02
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname



 Right now they are all in as Peter.    Actually I would like all those after
 a certain date to be Peters. Must I go to the screen for each one and do and
 AKA?   No way to do it as a group?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Census information

[Jim Walton]

Thanks, Kirsten. It looks pretty good, so in the meantime I'll do it that way.

You said it's extreme, but consider that a census is a document with
50 volumes, each volume has hundreds of chapters. Even the 1790 census
would have at least 13 sources plus the counties.  Even narrowing it
down to states would produce over 50, considering territories such a
Puerto Rico and Guam.

But maybe I'm being too detailed. Anyway, your suggestion will work as
a work-around. Thanks again.

Jim


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:
 Jim:

 That's pretty extreme lumping, but it should be easy to do.  (And just today
 I wrote that I'm reforming from this!)

 Anyway, why can't you just create a Master Source called 1790 US Census and
 leave out the other location details.  Then on the Source Detail screen on
 the Source Clipboard, you put the state, county, etc. in the ID of Person
 field.  That seems to create a pretty decent looking citation.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Jim Walton
 Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:41 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Census information


 I record census information as part of residency then I can do a
 chronology showing residence to compare people I think may be related.
 I then use the source writer for the census information and supplement
 it in the notes with my comments, such as children, etc. that clarify
 the numbers a little better. Problem is, the source writer asks for
 the state and county in the master source rather than in the detail.
 That means that I have multiple sources for the same area because
 different states and counties are involved. I want a single source for
 1790, 1800, etc. rather than 1790-New Hampshire-Grafton,1790-New
 Hampshire-etc... Then the detail would include the local information.

 I have made a suggestion to Legacy to make the change as using the
 override to redo the citations is cumbersome, but I would like to get
 some feedback on my idea, methods, and other possibilities.

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Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living

[Jim Walton]

If you are using Legacy 7 there is an entry under CustomizeData Entry where
you can set the age at which a person is Presumed Dead. It defaults to ask
if over 90 and set as dead if over 120. You can change these years then hit
the Apply button and it will update  your database accordingly. It only
changes records with no death date entered, so you might set it to set
everyone at 80 years, at least temporarily.

This may not get them all, but it should clean up the bulk of them.



On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.netwrote:

 Would someone tell me how to do this search?  Thanks.
 Rita in South Carolina

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 Of Michele Lewis
 Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:30 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living

 I don't think so Ron.  I tagged over 1000 people in my file that fit the
 following criteria...

 no death date
 set as living

 Over 3/4 of those tagged are people that would have died before 1900 and
 couldn't possibly be alive.  They had parents with birth dates of 1750 or
 children with birthdates of 1790 (you get the idea).  I am manually going
 in

 and marking them as dead.

 I realize it is partly my problem for not estimating birth and death dates
 or manually marking them as dead when I enter them.

 michele

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 From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:48 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living



 Michele,

 That is not so. It will look at ancestors and descendants and decide if
 they

 would have been over whatever date you have set for the life span.



 Ron Ferguson

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  From: cranberryf...@charter.net
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living
  Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:48:37 -0400
 
  I have the advanced set living thing set. It automatically marks those
  over
  110 dead but that only works if you have birth and death dates!
 
  michele
  - Original Message -
  From: Gene Young
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marking people as not living
 
 
  Michele Lewis wrote:
  I just figured something out the hard way. If you don't put a death
  date for someone it defaults to living even though their parents and
  children died in the 1700s! The significance to his is when you upload
  your file with all living persons blocked out a lot of your file is
  blocked out that shouldn't be. I am having to go through and find all
  these (I did it with a simple search, any body with no date of death
  that is marked living).
 
  michele
 
 
  From the help file;
 
  Advanced Set Living
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  There are several Legacy reports, plus web pages, where the privacy of
  anyone whose Living status is set to Yes is protected by suppressing all
  personal details. When creating these reports, no information is
  included for ancestors born centuries ago if they are inadvertently left
  set as Living.
 
 
 
  Normally an individual's Living status is set at the time they are
  manually entered. The process is automatic if their death or burial
  information is entered or their birth or christening date is more than
  120 years ago. If no birth, christening, death, or burial information
  is entered, their status remains at the default Yes, if not changed to
  No.
 
 
 
  It is an easy task to set the Living status of a few individuals
  manually, but the task can become formidable when adding hundreds or
  thousands of new people to your family file with a GEDCOM import. This
  is where the Advanced Set Living feature comes in handy. This option
  does an intelligent search through your entire family file looking for
  people that are older than the cutoff age, which is usually 120 years
  old. When someone of this age is found, it is assumed that all of their
  ancestors are older than that and that they are all dead. Legacy then
  sets their Living flag to NO as far back as the line goes from there,
  regardless of whether or not they have birth or christening dates.
 
  To use the Advanced Set Living feature:
 
  1. Choose Advanced Set Living from the Tools menu.
 
  2. Set the cutoff age at the desired level by either typing in the
  number or by using the up and down arrows of the spin control.
 
  3. Click the Start button. Legacy goes through your entire family file
 

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to input census?

[Jim Walton]

If you open the Family page for the  individual, you can either click on the
little note icon below the information filed, or click on the field to open
the information page. Under Events/.Facts select Add, then enter Census in
the event field. Enter the date and location of the census, then click on
the books above  the description and you can add the source information for
the census.


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mary Horner maryhor...@shaw.ca wrote:

   I am a newbie to Legacy. I have a hugs amount of data gleaned from 7
 Canadian census reports 1851-1911. Where do I input this info? I started by
 pasting the household under Master Source notes with the ‘Head’ showing
 everyone in the household and then each individual gets a single line under
 detail in the source menu and then again entering each individual in events
 but this seems so repetitive and will take forever. I am also concerned that
 when it comes to printing reports the same census material is going to be
 repeated over and over. Does Legacy have instructions somewhere as to how to
 enter census info? All I can find is how to download a blank form. Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Determining ages

[Jim Walton]

Gee, Ron, I was hoping for someone who was alive then to give me a
definitive answer...  I guess in lieu of that we'll just have to go with
what we have now...

I hark for the 40's (in the last century, certainly not the 17th) and the
legal age in the US was pretty much universal at 21, so no doubt that is the
best choice. For now I will base my estimates on that value until someone
comes up with something different.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jim


On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Jim,

 I cannot help you with the American age, but if you are right, in that it
 was the same as for England, then it was almost certainly 21years. Although
 I am not as old as the date you are looking for it was 21years in England
 even when I was a kid :-).

 I have tried, without success, to get confirmation myself for the period to
 which you refer, and I am beginning to wonder if it was simply an age which
 was generally accepted, and later became enshrined in common law ie. without
 a specific Act of  Parliament, or may be it came from church law.

 If anybody does have a definitive answer I would like to know myself.

 Ron Ferguson
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Sent: 27 September 2009 00:59
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Determining ages


 I have several wills that use a phrase similar to arrive to age in the
 law. The time period is 17th and 18th century New Hampshire so I would
 assume that the English legal system would apply, but I have been unable to
 determine what that age should be. If I knew I could establish some better
 estimated dates of birth. Right now I'm using 18 years, but I recently read
 something that makes me think it may have been 21. Does anyone know for
 certain?

 Thank you. I'm picking up tidbits from this list almost on a daily basis.

 Jim



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[LegacyUG] Source citations

[Jim Walton]

*The Gazetteer of Washington County, Vt., 1783-1889*,* Part First*,
according to the title page, was edited by William Adams and compiled and
published by Hamilton Child.

The options I have in the source writer don't allow for such a situation so
how do I handle it? Since it is an online image I'm thinking of book,
authored (reprint) with two authors, online image. The first author would be
Child with a suffix of compiler and publisher and the second would be Adams
with a suffix of editor.

Does this sound like a reasonable solution, or is there a better way to
handle this? Most online sources just list Child as the author.

Jim

Re: [LegacyUG] Source citations

[Jim Walton]

Actually an online image is considered a reprint, and when you choose book,
reprint you can select online book and it is shown as a digital image with
the website information. To further compound my confusion, the cover of the
book features a picture of probably Hamilton Child and under the title it
says Hamilton Child, William Adams. They certainly did things differently
in the 1800s than they do today...

I'll figure something out. Thanks for the input.

Jim


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, S. Fry azg...@rsib.net wrote:

 Jim,

 In SourceWriter I would choose Books Book, edited Editor known Basic
 format. William Adams would go in the Editor Last Name/Given Name
 fields. Hamilton Child, compiler would go in the Publisher field. If you
 have the date and place of publication, often found on the page after the
 title page, fill that in.

 With the information you supplied, the Footnote/Endnote Citation would
 read:
 William Adams, editor, The Gazetteer of Washington County, Vt., 1783-1889,
 Part First (N.p.: Hamilton Child, complier, n.d.).

 I would add a note that the book has been digitized along with the online
 source of the book either in the Text/Comments or Repository.

 Sherry from Bowlegs, Okla.


 - Original Message - From: Jim Walton
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:19 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source citations



 The Gazetteer of Washington County, Vt., 1783-1889, Part First, according
 to the title page, was edited by William Adams and compiled and published by
 Hamilton Child.

 The options I have in the source writer don't allow for such a situation so
 how do I handle it? Since it is an online image I'm thinking of book,
 authored (reprint) with two authors, online image. The first author would be
 Child with a suffix of compiler and publisher and the second would be Adams
 with a suffix of editor.

 Does this sound like a reasonable solution, or is there a better way to
 handle this? Most online sources just list Child as the author.

 Jim



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[LegacyUG] Determining ages

[Jim Walton]

I have several wills that use a phrase similar to arrive to age in the
law. The time period is 17th and 18th century New Hampshire so I would
assume that the English legal system would apply, but I have been unable to
determine what that age should be. If I knew I could establish some better
estimated dates of birth. Right now I'm using 18 years, but I recently read
something that makes me think it may have been 21. Does anyone know for
certain?

Thank you. I'm picking up tidbits from this list almost on a daily basis.

Jim

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy use on Facebook

[Jim Walton]

MyHeritage is a good idea with a poor implementation. You can upload a
gedcom, but if you make changes you have to make them manually. An
alternative is to delete the tree from MyHeritage and upload another gedcom
using the same name. MyHeritage apparently uses non-standard entries in
their gedcom, so there will be some errors. But it is a nice way to present
photos, and allows picture identification that is miles ahead of facebook.
You can size the face target which is nice, and you can also create an image
to show on the family tree chart.

I haven't turned my family loose on it yet as I'm still looking for a better
alternative. The main thing I want is the chart view with pictures. Just
forget the automatic matching in MyHeritage. It can really mess up a
database.

Jim

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote:

 Sue,

 There are other choices than Facebook if you want to mix genealogy with
 social networking. One that my brother-in-law uses is MyHeritage.com. I
 don't know how the interplay between it an Legacy would work, but it does
 support non-public family trees where relatives can become members, receive
 notifications, etc.

  Ward

 - Original Message - From: William H. Boswell
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy use on Facebook


 Unless they fixed it, I don't think you can.  I've been trying to do it for
 several months and the Facebook internal program just isn't there anymore.
 You used to be able to upload a GEDCOM only.  Now you have to enter
 everything in all over again.  Not worth it to me.

 I wish they would fix this.
 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
 Of Sue Bramley
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:27 PM
 To: Legacy mailing list
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy use on Facebook


 Dear All,

 I would like to put some family tree details on Facebook, limiting it to a
 private group for my relatives on Facebook. Can I upload a gedcom or HTML
 file created using Legacy to Facebook? I was thinking of using the Notes
 area.

 Regards,


 Sue Bramley
 New Zealand




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to reduce size of Gedcom

[Jim Walton]

Under the GEDCOM Export  Record Selection select the second option -- Focus
Group. There you can select the person to start with and select that person
with all descendants.  You can limit the number of generations so you can
further limit the size of your file. You also have the choice of descendants
or entire descendant line which includes everybody.

Jim


On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Jacob Psutka 4freeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to send a Gedcom that has all my entries except for the
 first few generations, which would not be of interest to the
 recipient.  Since there are
 over 3000 records, adding a tag to each one I want is not practical.
 Can anyone think of another wat of accomplishing this?

 Regards,

 Jacob Psutka



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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

[Jim Walton]

Just to give you an idea, I live in Korea so I ran two tests. The first to a
local server in Seoul showed

Down: 13.40
Up: 7.85

I then switched to a server in San Francisco, half-way around the world and
got these results

Down: 7.61
Up: 2.01

My worst case is twice your speeds. Korea, however, is known to have some of
the fastest Internet connectivity in the world. So, down towards the bottom
of the page where you did your test is a button (actually more of a text
block) that says How do your results stack up? Click on that and it will
show you how you compare to others in your area.

Jim


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Michele Lewis
cranberryf...@charter.netwrote:

 I did the speed test and these are the results...

 download 3.89
 upload 1.00

 so now tell me what that means.

 michele


 - Original Message - From: Brian L. Lightfoot 
 br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages



  This is getting slightly off topic but since it does directly affect
 Legacy
 users that are trying to upload web pages, here is one more shot at things
 to remember:

 1. Your upload speed is not affected by choice of operating systems; Vista
 or XP have no effect on your upload speed.
 2. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your amount of RAM
 (unless you are so underspec but then you'd notice problems with just
 running any programs. For the average system, adding additional RAM will
 not
 increase your upload speed.
 3. Your upload speed is not significantly affected by your brand of
 computer.
 4. Your upload speed is not defined by merely saying cable modem, DSL,
 satellite, etc, all of which are loosely defined as broadband but
 bandwidth can and does vary widely. Some cable modem connections are only
 768K while others are up to 18Mbps (that's over 23 times faster).
 5. A dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that your
 upload speed is almost always severely reduced over what your download
 speed
 is supposed to be.
 6. Another dirty little secret of your Internet Service Provider is that
 your up/download speed is not guaranteed but rather sold to you as up
 to
 X Mbps. Your results may varyand they will.
 7. The speed and efficiency of the server to which you are uploading will
 affect the time it takes you to transfer files. Normally, it isn't much of
 a
 factor unless you are using AOL, etc.

 If you don't know for sure, call and ask your ISP exactly what speed
 package
 you are paying for: you need two numbers as an answer. For example, a
 typical answer might be 3 Meg down and 256K up. Note that in this
 example
 it's the 256K upload speed which determines how long it takes for you to
 upload web pages.

 Finally (and really getting off topic now), if you are still having long
 delays uploading web pages, go here to test your ACTUAL speed as opposed
 to
 what you are paying for:
 http://www.speedtest.net/

 Brian in CA


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 From: Michele Lewis [mailto:cranberryf...@charter.net]
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:52 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] uploading web pages

 I have a Dell laptop with 2GB RAM.  I am running Vista.  I am not
 uploading
 any pictures at all.  I use a cable modem for my internet connection.

 michele




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