Re: [LegacyUG] Potential problems

[Joseph]

Check you dates.  I've gotten these before and I had inadvertantly 
entered the wrong century.  Such as the parent's birth date is entered 
as 1959 instead of 1859 and the child born at 1875.  and a first glance 
it appears good


Hope this helps you.

Joseph



Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
One that keeps coming up is "Born before parents marriage".  I cannot 
figure out how to exclude this (in Legacy 5).  I know perfectly well 
they were born before parents married, and in one case I am not sure 
the parents ever married.  How can I exclude this from Potential 
Problems? or do I just ignore it every time?


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[LegacyUG] Legacy 6 won't Insatll

[Joseph]

I've just set up system with Windows Vista Home Premium.

When I attempted to install Legacy 6, I get an error which says,  "error 
accessing the system registry"


When I click "OK" which is the only option, I get another error which 
says, "Unexpected error;  quiting"


How can I get my Legacy to work on this system?

Thanks in advance for any assistence

Joseph





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6 won't Insatll

[Joseph]

Robert, I did go to that area and clicked on where it said to download 
from the web.  When I did that, it took me to a Legacy 7 download 
area   I figured I couldn't download version 6.


Sherry, I'm going to look silly here, but I didn't notice the "Previous 
Version" link...   until I'd just gone back now.


However, I've ordered the new version 7 (Deluxe) and I'll be ok.

I really didn't want a new version, but at least now, I can pass the old 
version along to someone else.


I haven't gotten my eMail yet for opening Deluxe 7.

Anyway
  Thanks
     Joseph


Sherry/Support wrote:

Joseph,

Download Legacy from our website and install that. Don't try to install from
the CD. 


Please go to our website at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpWindowsVista.asp for information on
running Legacy under Vista.

Versions of Legacy prior to v7 can be downloaded from
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpDownloadVersion6.asp.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6 won't Insatll



I've just set up system with Windows Vista Home Premium.

When I attempted to install Legacy 6, I get an error which says,  "error 
accessing the system registry"


When I click "OK" which is the only option, I get another error which 
says, "Unexpected error;  quiting"


How can I get my Legacy to work on this system?

Thanks in advance for any assistence

Joseph





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Re: [LegacyUG] Has anybody tried to use Legacy to build an Adam and Eve family tree?

[Joseph]

I'm not sure who King Arthur the Great is, but I thought I might be the 
only one who traced back through Scotland and Ireland and on into Israel 
where I found I'm from two Israeli lines   Levi and Judah   
Also, I found possibilities for connections to all three of Noah's 
sons.  I tend to think that it may have been Japheth's descendants in 
Britain whom the Romans conquered in Britain.


Joseph



John Clare wrote:

King Arthur the Great? Who he.
John

2008/8/14 pkrk1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>

 I am new to Legacy had used FTM for over 10 years. Most Royalty
in Europe have their family trees back to the Bible. If you can
line your family history to connect to one of them there are books
on their family History.
Our line goes back to King Arthur the Great in three different
lines. His family history is recorded in Family books so my mother
now has our line back to Adam & Eve taking the Bible after the
King's family History we are from the tribe of Judah.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.com

[Joseph]

Since these are Government records, shouldn't we have the right to 
search them straight from the Census, SS, and other areas rather than 
pay a third party for the access?  Just wondering if anyone knows how 
this all came about.


Joseph



Thomas Herson wrote:
The ability to view and copy actual census images makes the Ancestry 
subscription worth it. Just consider the cost of traveling to 
libraries in othere cities to vew and copy these records or the time 
involved in writing for copies.



From: "Michael Berry"
Is this worth joining?  It's sort of expensive.  Is the free trial 
period (abt 14 days) long enough to give it a fair trial?


Michael






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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.com

[Joseph]

Hey Michele, you wouldn't have lived on Frederick Street in Hagerstown, 
Maryland about 25 years ago?  I knew a Lewis family who lived there and 
they had a daughter named Michele.


If, that's fine...   if so, small world.  

Joseph



Michele Lewis wrote:
You can look at them for free at any library that has microfilm.  The 
one that kills me is the social security applications. I don't think 
we should have to pay for those.  They should be digitalized and on 
the internet for free access.  It costs something like $27 for one!  I 
remember when they were $7 but then the goverment figured out they 
could make a killing.


From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Since these are Government records, shouldn't we have the right to 
search them straight from the Census, SS, and other areas rather than 
pay a third party for the access?  Just wondering if anyone knows how 
this all came about.


Joseph





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.com

[Joseph]

Wow   I've been thoroughly admonished   but did you have to 
liken me to the democrats?





Joseph,

You and others who think the government should provide all this 
information to you for free aren't really thinking clealy. Even the 
Democrats in Denver who believe the government should do everything 
for Americans from cradle to grave haven't promised free up-to-date 
vital records on the internet ;-)



From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Since these are Government records, shouldn't we have the right to 
search them straight from the Census, SS, and other areas rather than 
pay a third party for the access?  Just wondering if anyone knows how 
this all came about.



Thomas Herson wrote:
The ability to view and copy actual census images makes the Ancestry 
subscription worth it. Just consider the cost of traveling to 
libraries in othere cities to vew and copy these records or the time 
involved in writing for copies.



From: "Michael Berry"
Is this worth joining?  It's sort of expensive.  Is the free trial 
period (abt 14 days) long enough to give it a fair trial?


Michael






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[LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents

[Joseph]

How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the 
biological parents the main ones.


I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version.

I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents.  Then we 
discovered his biological father and we want to tie him to his 
biological father as the main parent.


However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the 
biological father who is not marked as "Father of son-in-law" as his 
adoptive was.


When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my 
son-in-law...   I want his biological father to be marked as "father of 
son-in-law"


How can I get this done without deleting people?

Joseph








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Re: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents

[Joseph]

Evert, I did just this to a point and nothing happened.  What I mean is, 
I could do everything and the parent I prefered came up ion the window, 
but the thing i wanted didn't happen.  That is this;  The relationship 
for the adoptive parents were still "Son-in-law's Father"...   and I 
wanted that to be changed to the biological Father.


Some how it apparently remembered that the step parents were once the 
only and prefered parents.


Is there a button or something I'm missing that I'm not seeing to set 
"Prefered Parents" in the parent list?  I didn't see anything there.


Joseph

___

Evert van Dijken wrote:

>From the article in the Help about Multiple and Single parents:

-
Setting Family View Status Options

• Set the Preferred Parents in the Parents List by highlighting them
and clicking the Select button. The screen will close and the
preferred parents will be displayed in Family View.


(click on the parents icon in Family View to open the Parents List).

I suppose you have to set the biological father as preferred parent.

Evert

2008/9/13 Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the
biological parents the main ones.

I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version.

I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents.  Then we discovered
his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as the
main parent.

However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the
biological father who is not marked as "Father of son-in-law" as his
adoptive was.

When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my
son-in-law...   I want his biological father to be marked as "father of
son-in-law"

How can I get this done without deleting people?

Joseph








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Re: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents

[Joseph]

Evert, I did this too, then I reset the relationships.  That did it.  
Thanks so much for your help.  I deeply appreciate  your assistence.


Joseph



Evert van Dijken wrote:

Got to tools > Set Relationships and both fathers (biological and
adoptive) should be Father of son-in-law in Family View. The
relationships to the father you set in the Childrens settings (right
click on the child). You have to do this for both sets of parents.
In book reports you can only include the preferred parents, in a
Family Group Report or Individual Report you can select to include
both parents and the relationship to these parents in these reports.
Evert

2008/9/13 Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Evert, I did just this to a point and nothing happened.  What I mean is, I
could do everything and the parent I prefered came up ion the window, but
the thing i wanted didn't happen.  That is this;  The relationship for the
adoptive parents were still "Son-in-law's Father"...   and I wanted that to
be changed to the biological Father.

Some how it apparently remembered that the step parents were once the only
and prefered parents.

Is there a button or something I'm missing that I'm not seeing to set
"Prefered Parents" in the parent list?  I didn't see anything there.

Joseph

___

Evert van Dijken wrote:


>From the article in the Help about Multiple and Single parents:

-
Setting Family View Status Options

• Set the Preferred Parents in the Parents List by highlighting them
and clicking the Select button. The screen will close and the
preferred parents will be displayed in Family View.


(click on the parents icon in Family View to open the Parents List).

I suppose you have to set the biological father as preferred parent.

Evert

2008/9/13 Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  

How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the
biological parents the main ones.

I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version.

I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents.  Then we discovered
his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as
the
main parent.

However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the
biological father who is not marked as "Father of son-in-law" as his
adoptive was.

When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my
son-in-law...   I want his biological father to be marked as "father of
son-in-law"

How can I get this done without deleting people?

Joseph






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Re: [LegacyUG] set relationships

[Joseph]

I wonder why they changed this.  It's been an annoyance to me;  having 
to reset relationships each time.  I wonder if this is a bug, they 
deliberately took it away, or someone's just trying to make things 
difficult for us?


SUGGESTION TO THE PROGRAMMERS:   Put the automatic Relationship setting 
back in...


Joseph



Tim Rosenlof wrote:
After reading some of the replies on this subject, I did add more 
names to a test file, out about 5 generations. Low and behold, I had 
to reset like the others.

Tim

From: "Elsie Saar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tim, are you saying that when adding a new related person, the 
relationship updates for you? What do I have to check to get it to do 
that for me?



From: "Tim Rosenlof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Elsie,
In version 7 Basic and Deluxe I could not reproduce your problem. I 
cleared them and set them again with the it working fine. Try a 
maintance on your file.


 


From: "Elsie Saar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My question doesn't seem to be getting to the list. Here it is again.
Thanks for any help.

I didn't see an answer to my question: I went to Tools, Set 
Relationships, chose myself as the starting person, blood 
relationships to 15, and clicked Set Relationships and set them. 
However, it doesn't stay set. The next time I enter a new person 
who is related to me, I have to Set Relationships again. What am I 
doing wrong? I have v7, the latest revision, over 17K people in my 
file, service pack 3.

Elsie



2008/9/16 Elsie Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I tried going to the Archives to find this but found some 
gibberish and couldn't get to the second page.


I went to Tools, Set Relationships and set them. However, it 
doesn't stay stuck. What am I doing wrong?

Elsie









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Re: [LegacyUG] set relationships

[Joseph]

OK, you could be right.  What is/are the non-direct relationships?  I'm 
not sure what that is.  I don't recall this.  Maybe I shouldn't skim 
over the mail so much.  


Joseph



ronald ferguson wrote:

Joseph,

So you would also like the non-direct line relationships taken out then, even 
though this was requested by many users (not me btw)? I tried to explain before 
that this is almost certainly a trade off, to recalulate on the fly would, I 
believe, make delays between entries far to long.


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Re: [LegacyUG] set relationships

[Joseph]

OK, I understand.  Thanks Elsie.  I think I would rather have that 
notation even if I do have to reset relationship.  Thank you so much for 
explaining this to an old man


Joseph




Elsie Saar wrote:
A non-direct relationship is like "husband of the second cousin, six 
times removed."
Personally, I add in my Relationship event, event name "Relationship", 
event desc "[[none]]" for non-direct relationships as we don't share 
blood.
Perhaps we could have an option to use v6 or v7 as with the Source 
writer.


Joseph wrote:
OK, you could be right.  What is/are the non-direct relationships? 
I'm not sure what that is.  I don't recall this.  Maybe I shouldn't 
skim over the mail so much.  

Joseph

____

ronald ferguson wrote:

Joseph,
So you would also like the non-direct line relationships taken out 
then, even though this was requested by many users (not me btw)? I 
tried to explain before that this is almost certainly a trade off, 
to recalulate on the fly would, I believe, make delays between 
entries far to long.

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[LegacyUG] Windows -No Disk Warning....

[Joseph]

I'm running Legacy

On starting the program, I'm getting a "Windows - No Disk" error 
message.  It says:


Exception Processing Message 0xc013 Parameters 0x75CF92A0
0x004 0x75CF92A0 0x75CF92A0

It also has "Cancel," "Try Again," and Continue" buttons.  None does 
anything until you click back and forth over them a few times.


I've run the "Fix/Repair" in the "File" menu, but to no avail.

How can I get this to stop and load appropriately.  Right now it's 
simply "Not Responding"   


Thanks in advance for all your help and patience with me.

Joseph



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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows -No Disk Warning....

[Joseph]

I'm using Vista, but not Terminator.  I'm using Norton 360.  I thought 
it was a Legacy problem since it was only happening when I start 
Legacy...  and try doing some things in Legacy;  like changing from 
Family to Pedigree.


I did a search for the files that web page said should be there, but 
there's nothing...   so I'm not sure what's up with it all.


Joseph



ronald ferguson wrote:

Joesph
 
This is not a Legacy problem. Are you using "Spyware Terminator" on Vista? If so, remove it.




Ron Ferguson

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:16:13 -0500
From: leg...@e-pops.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Windows -No Disk Warning


I'm running Legacy

On starting the program, I'm getting a "Windows - No Disk" error
message. It says:

Exception Processing Message 0xc013 Parameters 0x75CF92A0
0x004 0x75CF92A0 0x75CF92A0

It also has "Cancel," "Try Again," and Continue" buttons. None does
anything until you click back and forth over them a few times.

I've run the "Fix/Repair" in the "File" menu, but to no avail.

How can I get this to stop and load appropriately. Right now it's
simply "Not Responding" 


Thanks in advance for all your help and patience with me.

Joseph



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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows -No Disk Warning....

[Joseph]

ronald ferguson wrote:

Joseph,
 
I do not understand what you mean by


"> I did a search for the files that web page said should be there, but
  

there's nothing... so I'm not sure what's up with it all."

 
What web page and what files?
 
Did you look at the web page also posted in answer to your query?


Ron Ferguson
  


Bill wrote the following:

"Have a look at 
http://forums.techguy.org/business-applications/561879-windows-no-disk-exception
-processing.html for further information. (I had to as well!!)"


On that page, there was an entry by one who says they have the solution, 
and he said, "Run msconfig and if it appears in your startup list 
disable it and restart if that solves your problem then delete dit.exe 
from your windows folder (you can also get rid of dit.dll, dit.ini and 
ditxp.exe)"


I did that, and searched for those "dit" files, but to no avail.  There 
were none.


And again, it's only when I use Legacy that this happens.

Joseph






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[LegacyUG] Notes screens are black

[Joseph]

I've installed an update for Legacy v7, and I'm getting a problem I 
didn't have before.  When I go to "Notes" of any kind, the text field is 
black.  When I type, it appeared that there's text being inserted.  When 
I cut and paste from the text field of the "Notes" window to another 
program, my text is indeed there


How can I get the "Notes" window text field background to be white with 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

[Joseph]

Personally, I only use what I've found on documents, or as in those whom 
I've known, I will include nicknames and/or other names by which they 
were known.  My grandfather, for instance, was Luther Ambrose Snurr, but 
everyone called him Jim.  So I've added that into the AKA's even though 
it was not on official documents.  He even had a brother named James who 
was not called Jim, but rather HE was called Tuin


I think it's interesting to find information like that because it gives 
us a better look at our ancestors and who they were.  Who knows, one day 
we might find a News article about Tuin Snurr   but without this 
information, we might miss something about James Snurr.


So yes, I do keep as much identifying information as possible.

Joseph


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Michele Lewis wrote:
When you record AKAs do you only record those names you have actually 
seen on a document or do you include POSSIBLE name variations?


I am just starting to record AKAs and I notice there is a source 
attached to each AKA so I am thinking you are supposed to be only 
recording the name variations you have actually seen.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Speaking of alternate names...

[Joseph]

I use the one which is most reliable   it would be most often used 
in the census, birth, death, and/or marriage records.


Joseph

_
Georgia wrote:
My question is how do you decide which of the various names one has is 
in the/ main/ entry and which are AKAs if you did not know the 
person?  I have relatives who sometimes use a first name, sometimes a 
middle name (in the census) and I do not have birth records for them.  
I also have a great grandmother whose grave I have seen (sworn by 
other relatives it is the correct grave) that lists a name (Mollie) 
that is never in the census (Roxie or Roxanne).  I know the census 
lists are the right person because of siblings and parents.  How do I 
decide which name is the "main" name?


Many thanks

G E O R G I A  H A L L  C H U N
Researching Hall, Thomas, Attaway, Brewer
Ohio and Mississippi

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem

[Joseph]

Tim, you've GOT to be from ARKANSAS!!!   


_
Tim Rosenlof wrote:

That is a pedigree collapse. My 2 children are 8th, 9th, 13th and 14th
cousin from each other. Then it works it way back through my wifes line.
It took me hours if not days to unlink different ancestors to find what
you are looking for the Look at the help file under relationship
calculator.

-Tim

  

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Of Richard Van Wasshnova

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship Indicator problem

 
A couple years back I noticed a Relationship Indicator 
problem (or not).


I showed a 9th Great-Grandfather in Family View. When I 
clicked on his 
parents I got a 8th Great-Granduncle married to a 10th 
Great-Grandmother. 
The 8th Great-Granduncle was also a 10th Great-Grandfather 
but his brother 
was a 8th Great-Grandfather which made all brothers 8th 
Great-Granduncle. Genetically a 8th Great-Granduncle is 
closer than a 10th Great-Grandfather 
so I didn't consider it a bug to indicate that way.


At the time I exported to a Legacy file of all ancestors but a couple 
indicated Xth Great-Granduncle. Now all ancestor's 
Relationship Indicator 
show as such not as Great-Granduncle.


Richard




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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Illegitimate Children

[Joseph]

The way I've been doing it is to set them up as married, but when the 
marriage page comes up, I set them as "never married."  This way it 
doesn't list them as a spouse, but as an unmarried relationship with issue.


Joseph


MagnoliaSouth wrote:

I've had to use this as well. The best way I know of is to create the
marriage and add the child. Once done then select the member of the
family, click Edit > Marriage and check the box near the top left that
says, "This couple did not marry". On reports it will now say "Jill
had a relationship with Jack" instead of something like "Jill married
Jack".

There is no real reason to worry over it being listed as a spouse
within the application, so long as the report gets it right. It's the
print version that needs to eliminate it as a marriage and as long as
you check the box, it will.

  

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Need help adding an illegitimate child to a father who later marries another
person and has several children by her. I can't find a spot to just add the
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[LegacyUG] Setting Relationships Failure

[Joseph]

My Friends From the Gene Pool :),

Just today, after installing the update, I found that my relationships 
were gone.  I tried "Tools/Set Relationships" but after it goes through 
all the actions, there's still no relationships.


I have 9363 individuals in my tree...   could that be a factor?

Joseph





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Re: [LegacyUG] Setting Relationships Failure

[Joseph]

I always begin with myself.  Once I was on another and it gave the 
option of changing the starting individual.  However, it still goes 
through all the motions and no relationships are listed.  /(I feel like 
an orphan)/


Joseph



Cathy wrote:

Hi Joseph,

Make sure you have the starting person you thought you did.
No problem here and I have over 11,000 people.

Cathy

At 11:30 AM 10/03/2008, you wrote:



My Friends From the Gene Pool :),

Just today, after installing the update, I found that my 
relationships were gone.  I tried "Tools/Set Relationships" but after 
it goes through all the actions, there's still no relationships.


I have 9363 individuals in my tree...   could that be a factor?

Joseph





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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

So if I may ask, how many generations would this be?   There should be 
several per page   so   I don't think I can cypher that 
high




Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

JLB:
Actually I misspoke...my chart was 1921 INCHES...which still works out 
to about 160 ftthat's about ten feet longer than the maximum paper 
length that an OP mentionedand I live in a small two bedroom 
apartment...I Could use it as wallpaperhmmm...

kathyAt 01:52 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
Not to mention where you'd hang something 1,921 feet wide.  Do you 
live on serious acreage?


JL
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Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

Walter:
I just checked mine and it is 1921.00 feet by 22inches...that's 
about a ream of paper per tree .Am seriously going to rethink 
printing it out all in one chunk>I don't think that there are enough 
forests left in Canada and the USA for me to print more than one 
copyand that's just one line. I still have three others...

Kathyt 11:26 AM 3/8/2008, you wrote:




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[Joseph]

So if I may ask, how many generations would this be?   There should be several per 
page   so   I don't think I can cypher that high

...and how many names does that include???   



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Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

JLB:
Actually I misspoke...my chart was 1921 INCHES...which still works out 
to about 160 ftthat's about ten feet longer than the maximum paper 
length that an OP mentionedand I live in a small two bedroom 
apartment...I Could use it as wallpaperhmmm...

kathyAt 01:52 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
Not to mention where you'd hang something 1,921 feet wide.  Do you 
live on serious acreage?


JL
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Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

Walter:
I just checked mine and it is 1921.00 feet by 22inches...that's 
about a ream of paper per tree .Am seriously going to rethink 
printing it out all in one chunk>I don't think that there are enough 
forests left in Canada and the USA for me to print more than one 
copyand that's just one line. I still have three others...

Kathyt 11:26 AM 3/8/2008, you wrote:




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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

Actually, if you have roots in Israel, then you can trace all the way to 
Adam and his dear wife, Eve.  The Hebrews (Israelites) were very good at 
keeping family history records.  They taught their children to memorize 
their history back to Adam   of course through the father's side.


Mine goes into the lines of Levi and Judah, and from there, using the 
Bible, I can go to Adam   and having done so, I find there was about 
150-160 generations.  I took the Biblical 6000 years, and divided by the 
average of 40 years per individual.  Forty years being the unrighteous 
generation.  That brought me to 150 apparent generations.


So it seems to mathematically all work out to that time factor   as 
does my records.


Joseph




Mike Fry wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All the way to Noah??



No! Methuselah.





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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

From my records and figures, it seems apparent that your customer 
missed a few generations.  The only way it could be accurate, and indeed 
it could, is if his family were good at long lives.


In fact, I have found connections to all three sons of Noah   Ham, 
Shem, Japheth.  Of course, this information and $2 might get me a cup of 
coffee.




Ronald O'Neill wrote:

All the way to Noah??


=

34th generation - gosh - what year does that take you back to?




No not Noah.

I know because we printed a tree for a customer a few weeks ago and 
that was 67 generations. Noah was close to the top but God the father 
was at the top. I kid you not.


The customer was in fact God's 67 Gt Grandson.

Who are we to argue.

Ron
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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

Mike Fry wrote:

Ronald O'Neill wrote:

All the way to Noah??


=

34th generation - gosh - what year does that take you back to?




No not Noah.

I know because we printed a tree for a customer a few weeks ago and 
that was 67 generations. Noah was close to the top but God the father 
was at the top. I kid you not.


The customer was in fact God's 67 Gt Grandson.

Who are we to argue.


By my reckoning, 67 generations covers about 2100 years. Obviously a 
Creationist rather than an adherent of Darwinian Theory, and also 
someone that hasn't read the bible too closely. Didn't some Victorian 
preacher calculate that the Earth had been created about 4500 BC?


It's estimated to be set at 4004 b.c.  Of course the exact year is 
debatable, but not worth the time.  






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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

Methuselah lived 969 years   but who's counting.  I think that back 
then they counted back to 9 months before the birth as the time of their 
beginning   as we do our birth date.  I suppose it's their supposed 
conception date.  So Methuselah was (in our thinking) 9 months younger.


Betcha they had the fire department handy when they lit the candles on 
his last 750 birthday cakes   


Joseph



Wynthner wrote:

Remember what Peggy Lee said

"Methuselah lived 900 years, Methuselah lived 900 years; but wht good is livin' when 
no woman will give in to no man with 900 years!"

*GRIN*



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All the way to Noah??




No! Methuselah.

  




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[Joseph]

Birth Control?My history has some HUGE families.  We have 
several with over 20 children and many, many, many between 12 and 20.


Our family was Lutheran on my paternal g-father's side (German), and 
Mennonite, Dunker, Amish on the mother's side (Swiss, Scotch, Irish for 
the most part).


They had no idea what Whoa! meant.  

I have about 9000 names in my list, but there are many lines going 
back   I have some cousins and such in the last 5 or 6 generations, 
but beyond that, it's straight blood lines   and while I add 
siblings occasionally, because they are interesting characters, the only 
way I get cousins back there is through intermarriage   and is there 
a lot of it.


(Don't tell anyone, but I think that's why I'm the way I amnot 
to mention I live in Arkansas :)


Joseph



Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

Joseph:
Maybe that's the scary partit's only 7 generations and only goes 
back to the 1800's and is about two pages deep(22 inches) As for 
numbers included..I think the last count was about 2500 descendants. 
My family may not have been Catholic but obviously shared similar 
sentiments toward birth control...

Kathy At 02:12 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote:




So if I may ask, how many generations would this be?   There should 
be several per page   so   I don't think I can cypher that 
high


...and how many names does that include???   



_
Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

JLB:
Actually I misspoke...my chart was 1921 INCHES...which still works 
out to about 160 ftthat's about ten feet longer than the maximum 
paper length that an OP mentionedand I live in a small two 
bedroom apartment...I Could use it as wallpaperhmmm...

kathyAt 01:52 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
Not to mention where you'd hang something 1,921 feet wide.  Do you 
live on serious acreage?


JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

Walter:
I just checked mine and it is 1921.00 feet by 22inches...that's 
about a ream of paper per tree .Am seriously going to rethink 
printing it out all in one chunk>I don't think that there are 
enough forests left in Canada and the USA for me to print more 
than one copyand that's just one line. I still have three 
others...

Kathyt 11:26 AM 3/8/2008, you wrote:




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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I think that we must consider that during many centuries, people didn't 
live more than 30-40 years.  I've discovered many people from 
approximately year "0" didn't live beyond 30.  There were plagues, wars, 
and lots of other things that would cut those times down.


Take 70 years, which is the [Biblically] righteous generation, and we 
get 87.7 generations.


If we take 40 years, which the Bible says is an unrighteous generation, 
we get 150 generations.  A lot of the 20-40 year deaths would compensate 
for the extra long lives of people before Noah.  That's about when the 
ages of man got to be progressively shorter.


My charts show that the 40 year life span works out   but of course 
that says a lot about my history.  Lots of scoundrels.  Very unrighteous.




Carl Cox wrote:

Ron:
<>

6,000 years back to Adam, 67 generations, = 90 years per generation. I 
get about 80 generations back to 0 BC. If anyone is interested, look 
at the web site below, select Interesting Things, and browse several 
lines back to Adam, with approximate dates. Legacy handles BC well.



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Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox,
Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I don't use much of anything that I don't trust   in other words, I 
"tend" to trust the Latter Day Saints Baprism of the dead records.  
Why?  I know some Mormons and they want to know that an individual lived 
before they waste their time baptizing an air pocket.


One I got back into Biblical realms, I used the Bible.  I personally 
believe that's more accurate than Courthouse records.


The Hebrews were taught to memorize their heritage.  There are Hebrew 
lines that came through Scotland, Ireland and other British isles.  
Therefore, I'm sure they were taught to keep some kind of records of 
their heritageIf I tell my grandchildren that their g-g-g-grand 
parents were Simon Peter Snurr and Ella Ora Gunkle, then I'm sure 
they'll "know" that these people actually lived.


Likewise, the Israelites did the same, and eventually documents these 
roots...   and after they left Israel for the north, they continued to 
keep records of some kind.


Joseph




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just as a matter of curosityWHERE do you find documented records for 
ancestors in this time period and earlier as some have commented they have? I 
would have assumed most records would have been oral history back then!

gc

-- RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fulk IV of Anjou born 1043, ggrandson of Henry II of
England; I have over 300 people on the 34th, but some
are inbred and also on 32-36.
Rich in LA CA
--- June <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

34th generation - gosh - what year does that take
you back to?

Regards - June

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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I too have Charlemagne, Alfred the Great, Malcolm of Scots,...   My 
final line came through the Finley's   form the Douglas' and 
Arbuthnot's  And I found them all by accident.  Then I wrote to the 
Arbuthnot Historian, Sir William Arbuthnot, and explained the lineage 
I'd found and he affirmed that it was correct.


Just for MY curiosity   is anyone else here connected to the 
Arbuthnot's?


Joseph Snurr...



RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
I did this for information purposes only, so here it is. My laptop could do 41 generations, but locked up on 42nd for 20 minutes, so I closed it out. 
My final numbers.

Using Focus group in Legacy, actual direct line ancestors, no siblings, no 
spouses. TOTAL 2799
>From LFT: Individuals 111,984
Pages 40,208
Size 119.00" x 31,592.00"
There is obviously many intermarriages, since the actual 111984/2799 is about 
34 average appearances for each ancestor.  the size is (to me) amazing. 5632 
8/12', which is over a mile. With over 4 pages, I need 2 trees. I don't 
think I will print it now.
My main sources include The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, 
Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Various.
#969 RINS, 
Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650.  
The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants. Frederick Lewis Weis. #RIN 562 I do collect names, but I do source as best I can.

Rich in LA CA
--- RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Fulk IV of Anjou born 1043, ggrandson of Henry II of
England; I have over 300 people on the 34th, but
some
are inbred and also on 32-36.
Rich in LA CA
--- June <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



34th generation - gosh - what year does that take
you back to?

Regards - June

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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

Looks like we have some common backgrounds   I come from King John 
Lackland of England...  I'm from his daughter, and I have a cousin who 
lives near me who descends from John's son, King Henry III.


Joseph


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

Fulk IV of Anjou born 1043, ggrandson of Henry II of
England; I have over 300 people on the 34th, but some
are inbred and also on 32-36.
Rich in LA CA
--- June <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

34th generation - gosh - what year does that take
you back to?

Regards - June

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got
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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I think that we must consider that during many centuries, people didn't live more than 
30-40 years.  I've discovered many people from approximately year "0" didn't 
live beyond 30.  There were plagues, wars, and lots of other things that would cut those 
times down.

Take 70 years, which is the [Biblically] righteous generation, and we get 87.7 
generations.

If we take 40 years, which the Bible says is an unrighteous generation, we get 150 generations.  A lot of the 20-40 year deaths would compensate 
for the extra long lives of people before Noah.  That's about when the ages of man got to be progressively shorter.


My charts show that the 40 year life span works out   but of course that 
says a lot about my history.  Lots of scoundrels.  Very unrighteous.



Carl Cox wrote:



> Ron:
> < that was 67 generations. Noah was close to the top but God the father
> was at the top.>>
>
> 6,000 years back to Adam, 67 generations, = 90 years per generation. I 
> get about 80 generations back to 0 BC. If anyone is interested, look 
> at the web site below, select Interesting Things, and browse several 
> lines back to Adam, with approximate dates. Legacy handles BC well.

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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I too have Charlemagne, Alfred the Great, Malcolm of Scots,...   My 
final line came through the Finley's   form the Douglas' and 
Arbuthnot's  And I found them all by accident.  Then I wrote to the 
Arbuthnot Historian, Sir William Arbuthnot, and explained the lineage 
I'd found and he affirmed that it was correct.


Just for MY curiosity   is anyone else here connected to the 
Arbuthnot's?


Joseph Snurr...



RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

> I did this for information purposes only, so here it is. My laptop could do 41 generations, but locked up on 42nd for 20 minutes, so I closed it out. 
> My final numbers.

> Using Focus group in Legacy, actual direct line ancestors, no siblings, no 
spouses. TOTAL 2799
> >From LFT: Individuals 111,984
> Pages 40,208
> Size 119.00" x 31,592.00"
> There is obviously many intermarriages, since the actual 111984/2799 is about 
34 average appearances for each ancestor.  the size is (to me) amazing. 5632 
8/12', which is over a mile. With over 4 pages, I need 2 trees. I don't think 
I will print it now.
> My main sources include The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, 
Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Various.
> #969 RINS, 
> Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650.  
> The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants. Frederick Lewis Weis. #RIN 562 I do collect names, but I do source as best I can.

> Rich in LA CA
> --- RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
  

>> Fulk IV of Anjou born 1043, ggrandson of Henry II of
>> England; I have over 300 people on the 34th, but
>> some
>> are inbred and also on 32-36.
>> Rich in LA CA
>> --- June <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 


>>> 34th generation - gosh - what year does that take
>>> you back to?
>>>
>>> Regards - June
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>   
  

>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 


>>> On Behalf Of RICHARD
>>> SCHULTHIES
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 4:03 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart
>>>
>>>
>>> I just broke the bank. the program is working, but
>>> my
>>> family chart is only to the 34th generation, and I
>>> got
>>> these numbers
>>>
>>>





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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I don't use much of anything that I don't trust   in other words, I "tend" 
to trust the Latter Day Saints Baptism of the dead records.  Why?  I know some Mormons 
and they want to know that an individual lived before they waste their time baptizing an 
air pocket.

One I got back into Biblical realms, I used the Bible.  I personally believe 
that's more accurate than Courthouse records.

The Hebrews were taught to memorize their heritage.  There are Hebrew lines that came 
through Scotland, Ireland and other British isles.  Therefore, I'm sure they were taught 
to keep some kind of records of their heritageIf I tell my grandchildren that 
their g-g-g-grand parents were Simon Peter Snurr and Ella Ora Gunkle, then I'm sure 
they'll "know" that these people actually lived.

Likewise, the Israelites did the same, and eventually documents these roots...  
 and after they left Israel for the north, they continued to keep records of 
some kind.

Joseph



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Just as a matter of curosityWHERE do you find documented records for 
ancestors in this time period and earlier as some have commented they have? I 
would have assumed most records would have been oral history back then!

gc
  





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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I too have Charlemagne, Alfred the Great, Malcolm of Scots,...   My final line 
came through the Finley's   form the Douglas' and Arbuthnot's  And I found 
them all by accident.  Then I wrote to the Arbuthnot Historian, Sir William 
Arbuthnot, and explained the lineage I'd found and he affirmed that it was 
correct.

Just for MY curiosity   is anyone else here connected to the Arbuthnot's?

Joseph Snurr...




RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

> > I did this for information purposes only, so here it is. My laptop could do 41 generations, but locked up on 42nd for 20 minutes, so I closed it out. 
> > My final numbers.

> > Using Focus group in Legacy, actual direct line ancestors, no siblings, no 
spouses. TOTAL 2799
> > >From LFT: Individuals 111,984
> > Pages 40,208
> > Size 119.00" x 31,592.00"
> > There is obviously many intermarriages, since the actual 111984/2799 is 
about 34 average appearances for each ancestor.  the size is (to me) amazing. 5632 
8/12', which is over a mile. With over 4 pages, I need 2 trees. I don't think I 
will print it now.
> > My main sources include The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, 
Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Various.
> > #969 RINS, 
> > Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650.  
> > The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants. Frederick Lewis Weis. #RIN 562 I do collect names, but I do source as best I can.

> > Rich in LA CA
> > --- RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >




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Re: [LegacyUG] 67 foot descendant chart

[Joseph]

I think that we must consider that during many centuries, people didn't live more than 
30-40 years.  I've discovered many people from approximately year "0" didn't 
live beyond 30.  There were plagues, wars, and lots of other things that would cut those 
times down.

Take 70 years, which is the [Biblically] righteous generation, and we get 87.7 
generations.

If we take 40 years, which the Bible says is an unrighteous generation, we get 150 generations.  A lot of the 20-40 year deaths would compensate 
for the extra long lives of people before Noah.  That's about when the ages of man got to be progressively shorter.


My charts show that the 40 year life span works out   but of course that 
says a lot about my history.  Lots of scoundrels.  Very unrighteous.

Joseph



Carl Cox wrote:


> > Ron:
> > < > that was 67 generations. Noah was close to the top but God the father
> > was at the top.>>
> >
> > 6,000 years back to Adam, 67 generations, = 90 years per generation. I 
> > get about 80 generations back to 0 BC. If anyone is interested, look 
> > at the web site below, select Interesting Things, and browse several 
> > lines back to Adam, with approximate dates. Legacy handles BC well.

> >







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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

That's wise   As with others, I have learned to back up my files 
regularly.  I have files on another hard drive as well as on CD's...


I remember the second or third time I lost information and had to go 
back and get the most recent backup   then start from there and 
rebuild  Usually it wasn't too awful much   but it was time 
consuming when it should never have been.


It's best to back up to another drive.  I'd say that second best is to 
back up to a CD that's re-writable...   that is, formatted like a 
regular hard drive on which files can be over-written, deleted, changed, 
added, re-saved   Then it works just like a hard drive.


Hmmm   this reminds me   I have to back up my files.  

Joseph



Steve Ayres wrote:
I agree with what you say but not all can afford an external hard 
drive.  But I do copy the backup files to a USB stick or to a 
rewriteable DVD just in case.
 
Steve


> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:07:42 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files
>
> Perhaps we who speak of backing up to our C-drives do that because we
> also back up our files to external hard-drives and online services. If
> your main drive gets fried it will also fry your second partition. I
> certainly wouldn't go that route myself.
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> Steve Ayres wrote:
> > I notice from the discussions that a number of people back up their
> > Legacy Family file to "C" drive, I found out the hard way that 
this is

> > not a good idea. I made a separate drive partion and called it "Back
> > Up" and now I always make my backups to the folder on the Back Up
> > drive called "Legacy Back Up".
> >
> > Windows became corrupted on my PC a couple of years back and I lost
> > everything that had been saved into "C" drive and a friend suggested
> > making a separate drive for backups and it has saved me a lot of work
> > on two occasions as I also back up other programs into their own
> > folders on the drive.
> >
> > I reinstalled XP recently and all my software including Legacy, then
> > just clicked on "Restore Family File" and away I went. I also back up
> > my family files after every change, just in case.
> >
> > Regards
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> > Steve
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

Scanned, that's an image which means that they won't compress much   
Your best deal (imho) would be CD'sset up to act like a hard 
drive.  Or if you don't mean to replace them, and only wish to store the 
files, then I'd burn them to DC's or DVD's and leave the disc open so 
more can be added.


Also, I would save certain things on a disc.  Photos on one, census 
records on another, death, marriage and birth certificates on  their own 
discs, or if there's not all that many, put these certificates on one 
disc...   grave markers on yet another.  That way it works like a filing 
cabinet


Joseph



John Carter wrote:

USB "thumb" drives are good for storing Legacy data, but I also have
almost 9GB of scanned photos and documents (wills, census, land records).

The time and expense of research made $100US for an external hard drive
acceptable to us, even though we're retired and don't have unlimited funds
(How many restaurant meals does it take to reach $100?).  Many old
documents are available on microfilm, but some microfilm printers can't
produce a readable paper copy from the microfilm of a faded original.  The
only way to get a good copy is with a digital camera, thus your "original"
copy is a digital image.  I think it prudent to have more than one copy of
an "original" digital image, especially if the microfilm is 400 miles away
and not available via interlibrary loan.  Although I have paper copies of
most things, I can't take a filing cabinet with me when doing research
away from the house - even if "away" is just the 10 miles to the
genealogical section at the county's main library.

Thumb drives are relatively inexpensive: 4GB for $20US at geeks.com with
free shipping this week.  Microcenter's latest flyer has 320GB external
hard drives for $95, 500GB for $120.  Also watch the office supply houses
(Staples, Office Max, etc) for sales.

Others have mentioned bad experiences with unrecoverable data on CDs. 
Since DVDs use similar materials, they are also subject to the same types

of failure (not scratches - it's damage to the "label" side that causes
most failures).  I've also experienced CD failure, so I tend to use hard
drives for backups.  Short of physical damage such as a head crash while
running, I can recover most of the data on an otherwise non-readable hard
drive (I was the PC support guy for an international consulting company
and their laptops experienced some harsh treatment).

John

  

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But I do copy the backup files to a USB stick or to a rewriteable DVD just
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

No, Disc, CD and DCD are to me one and the same.  When speaking of a 
hard drive (or HD), that's the term I use.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.


When you say long term, just how long is long term, short term...  etc?  
Maybe a place online...   a storage place.  Don't they have those?  And 
they should be hard drives (HD)





ronald ferguson wrote:

Joseph,

I'm afraid your message is not clear. Initially you mention CDs and DVDs for 
storage and then refer to disc. by which I take it you mean hard drives.

Respecfully, I would suggest the neither CDs nor DVDs are suitable for long 
term storage. As well as the potential problems which have been mentioned 
elsewhere in this thread, they loose their retentive properties over time (just 
like me).


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Your best deal (imho) would be CD's set up to act like a hard
drive. Or if you don't mean to replace them, and only wish to store the
files, then I'd burn them to DC's or DVD's and leave the disc open so
more can be added.

Also, I would save certain things on a disc. Photos on one, census
records on another, death, marriage and birth certificates on their own
discs, or if there's not all that many, put these certificates on one
disc... grave markers on yet another. That way it works like a filing
cabinet

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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

I appreciate your comments.  I've been enlightened.  Thanks.


ronald ferguson wrote:

Joseph,

How long is a piece of string?  As I understand, the time it will last depends 
on the quality of the disc, the more expensive the longer they last, at least 
in theory. Anything from 2 to 10 years. I also believe that Rewritables retain 
data for an even shorter period of time - maybe up to 5 years.

I don't really know about DVDs but I suspect that are not a lot different in 
this respect to CDs. I use a usb stick, an external Hard Drive and also MS 
Spaces (on-line storage)


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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:48:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files



No, Disc, CD and DCD are to me one and the same. When speaking of a
hard drive (or HD), that's the term I use. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

When you say long term, just how long is long term, short term... etc?
Maybe a place online... a storage place. Don't they have those? And
they should be hard drives (HD)




ronald ferguson wrote:


Joseph,

I'm afraid your message is not clear. Initially you mention CDs and DVDs for 
storage and then refer to disc. by which I take it you mean hard drives.

Respecfully, I would suggest the neither CDs nor DVDs are suitable for long 
term storage. As well as the potential problems which have been mentioned 
elsewhere in this thread, they loose their retentive properties over time (just 
like me).


Ron Ferguson


  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

[Joseph]

Of course we forgot the possibility of the complete annihilation of the 
universe   I wonder where I could store it all so I can get my 
backup after such an occurrence?  


I love your sense of humor, John.  Thanks for the chuckle this morning.

Joseph


John Carter wrote:

As much as we might want to protect information, the best of intentions
can't cover everything - the Library at Alexandria held the world's
knowledge (at the time) but much of it was lost over the centuries.

Maybe there's a market for storage vaults on Mars?  There would some delay
in acquiring the backup, but it is definitely off-site ;-)

John

  

Are you also able to keep them away from the risk of fire, flood,
earthquake, hurricane, tornado, tsunami, war, pestilence, comet striking
the earth... ?

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Brian Lightfoot wrote:


I still have a very old hard drive left over from the first 486 that I
built. It is now used on a Win98 computer for the grandkids with games
only
on it. The holds a whopping 110 megabytes.

Yes, folks, while technology is getting better, manufacturing practices
certainly aren't. I've said this before: we still have the original
photographs around that were taken in the Civil War. Your BEST archival
method for your family files is a hard copy print out on acid-free paper
and
stored properly. Then you don't have to worry about technological
changes,
bit rot, magnetism, or alien abductions.

Brian


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It very much depends on the brand and model.  In the past six months
I've
recovered data (for other people) from a 3 year old Western Digital IDE
drive (not bootable) and an 18 month old Samsung SATA drive (bad sectors
and not bootable).  These were both desktop PCs, so not subject to the
mechanical abuse that laptops receive.  On the other hand, I have an
ancient laptop that runs almost 24/7 on a drive that was used and of
unknown age when installed 3 years ago.

Thinking "no-years" leads to good backup practices ;-)

John


  

I heard 5 years, then I heard 2 years, then some-one told me they'd had
disks go bad in under one year.  I'm down to thinking no-years.  I
think
it's one of those things where if it works - great!  If it doesn't,
good
thing I had another plan.   I use external hard-drives, flash-drives,
online storage (Mozy) and email.

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[LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I'm new here so I hope I do this correctly.

I've been trying to get a workable page.  I have discovered two problems.

I did one a year or so ago which gave me an index page with links to the name 
index.  Also, it gave me that index of names which were linked to the 
respective pages for that particular name(s).

However, when I attempt it with Legacy 6.0.0.168, no matter what I attempt it 
does not give me the name index (with links), nor does it give me the main 
"index.html" page.

I do have well over 8000 individuals.   could this be causing a problem?

How can I get these pages to be created??

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Re: [LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

You'd asked, "For further help to come ASAP, which report were you 
indexing."


It wasn't under the reports menu.  It was under the "Tools/Create Web 
Pages...   Ctrl+W"



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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page



I don't think size of database is an issue. There are
some 'bugs' sneaking into 6.0.0.168, which may or not
be related to this. That problem is found in the
Search tool part, which may tie into your problem.
(The archives includes all the discussion of the
problem.) It has been identified and the next update
will fix it (per support). I guess they should be back
after the holidays, and if that is not the same
task,will ask for more info. For further help to come
ASAP, which report were you indexing.
Rich in LA CA
--- "Joseph  (Ragweed)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I'm new here so I hope I do this correctly.

I've been trying to get a workable page.  I have
discovered two problems.

I did one a year or so ago which gave me an index
page with links to the name index.  Also, it gave me
that index of names which were linked to the
respective pages for that particular name(s).

However, when I attempt it with Legacy 6.0.0.168, no
matter what I attempt it does not give me the name
index (with links), nor does it give me the main
"index.html" page.

I do have well over 8000 individuals.   could
this be causing a problem?

How can I get these pages to be created??

Joseph Snurr





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Re: [LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I'm sorry for not being complete in my description.  I'm doing it in the 
pedigree format.  I did one in the "Ancestor" format and it was all put into 
one page.  Not what I'm wanting with 8000 plus individuals.  I want each 
individual on a single page, but with their (grand)parents, children and 
other notes and such.



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You do not say, but from the context I think you are talking about creating 
web pages and probably the Pedigree web pages - or is it? If so it is 
working perfectly. Perhaps if you detailed *exactly* what you are doing and 
the method ie. what boxes you are ticking then it would be easier to help.


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From Joseph Snurr


I'm new here so I hope I do this correctly.
I've been trying to get a workable page.  I have discovered two problems.

I did one a year or so ago which gave me an index page with links to the 
name index.  Also, it gave me that index of names which were linked to the 
respective pages for that particular name(s).


However, when I attempt it with Legacy 6.0.0.168, no matter what I attempt 
it does not give me the name index (with links), nor does it give me the 
main "index.html" page.


I do have well over 8000 individuals.   could this be causing a problem?

How can I get these pages to be created??







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Re: [LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Interestingly, it won't allow me to do the repair.  If brings up the error 
where it says it must close   and when I click, it does.





From Dave Miller
I had the same problem yesterday. I had been using Legacy for some hours
and no matter what I tried it would not generate the surname index page. 
To

be more accurate it was generated but with '0' names. Like Ron I think you
mean web pages.
In the end I did a file/file maintenance/check/repair and closed and
re-opened Legacy. One or both of these fixed it

Regards,
 Dave.

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Joseph,

You do not say, but from the context I think you are talking about 
creating

web pages and probably the Pedigree web pages - or is it? If so it is
working perfectly. Perhaps if you detailed *exactly* what you are doing 
and

the method ie. what boxes you are ticking then it would be easier to help.

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web Page - Name indexes and Index Page
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:04:22 -0600







I'm new here so I hope I do this correctly.



I've been trying to get a workable page.  I have discovered two problems.



I did one a year or so ago which gave me an index page with links to the
name index.  Also, it gave me that index of names which were linked to the
respective pages for that particular name(s).



However, when I attempt it with Legacy 6.0.0.168, no matter what I attempt
it does not give me the name index (with links), nor does it give me the
main "index.html" page.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Research advice, using single or multiple databases

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I agree completely!

By the way, Jan, have you looked into any of the Oldham's in the Waynesboro, 
PA and Hagerstown, MD. areas??  I had friends in Hagerstown and the 
grandfather lived in Waynesboro.  I believe the family is rather old in that 
area.


Joseph Snurr
formally from that area

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From: "Wendy Howard"
Jan, please don't be put off by one person with a negative opinion.  As 
far as I can see, your query was on-topic for this list because you were 
asking how best to make use of the program in your situation, and that is 
what the replies sent to the list were based on.


As is often the case, there is more than one way to handle things in 
Legacy.  You've had at least two different views given - something for you 
to ponder as you decide what you're going to do.  There isn't a "right" 
answer, but a matter of working out what is right for *you*.


While you consider the options, please take the time to sit back and read 
the posts on this list for a while.  I'm sure you will find that it is a 
very good place to be for finding out more about the Legacy program, as I 
and many others do.  Please don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. 
:-)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I think if it were me, I'd do it this way:

Child born James Lee Smith and the Johnson's adopt him.  In the first name 
field I'd put James Lee (Smith) and in the Sir name I'd put Johnson.  Then in 
the notes I'd elaborate on the adoption.


  From: Charles & Shirley Woolley 

Thanks Dawn. I will try your suggestion.



From: Dawn Crowley
You might choose to use alternate names.  In the family view, click on
the icon of the "repeating" person to add the AKA.  At present, Legacy
does not have a method to see at a glance which surname was used.
However, changes can be documented in the notes.

Dawn

Charles & Shirley Woolley wrote:

> I know how to change the adoption status. My question is how to show
> the two different last names. Do I have the same individual with two
> last names?
>
> Charles
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Timothy K. Cox 
> Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:43 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
>
> Additionally, See Help>Show Help Index...>Adoption Status for details 
on
> setting each of the Parent's relationships (Biological, Adopted etc.).
> Things like this are explained very well in the training video CDs. A
> worthwhile investment for getting much more out of the program.
>
> P.S. Please turn off the stationary and send messages as plain text. 
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> Thanks, Tim
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> Newell
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:28 PM
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> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question
>
> I think that all you would do is add the child to both fathers.  
First you
> have a marriage between the two original parents, add the child.  Do 
the
> divorce. Add the second husband to the wife.  Click add a child,
> select link
> to an existing son.  You will get the message that (Childs name) is
> already
> a child of another family add as a child to this family also?  click 
OK.
>
> Donna Newell
>
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>
>
> How do I handle a situation such as the following. I have a husband 
and
> wife, they have a child. They divorce. The mother remarries. The new
> father
> adopts the child and the child takes the new fathers last name.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Census

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Or Genealogy.com, or have access through a library


  From: Glenny 
  Am I to assume that the only way of having access to census over the net is 
to belong to ancestry.com?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Return Receipts

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In Internet Explorer it's Tools/Options/Send and check "Reply to messages in 
the format in which they were sent"  Other programs are similar.

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  How do I change it to plain text?

  In a message dated 1/9/2008 10:27:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL 
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and incidentally - your email is in HTML (Rich Text).  LUG strongly 
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What's a LUG?

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Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [LegacyUG] Proper Surname Capitalization?

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Oh yeah?  I've got both Scotch and Irish.   


  From: Bob Hendry 
  Thanks, but this isn't working. The best I could do was change all Surnames 
to uppercase and display all surnames in uppercase.  But for some reason, I 
just can't get O'bryan to display as O'Bryan . . .

  A quirk in the program?

  Boy, am I glad I a Scotsman - Can you imagine the frustration the Irish must 
have???

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Re: [LegacyUG] Return Receipts

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I agree that I was a bit behind   it's difficult to keep up with such a 
high volume of eMail as I get here.


However, I'm on several list that requite one to send in "Plain Text" and 
this is how I have my eMail set   and it works.  And I get to use html 
also.


I'm know there's various ways of getting eMail to send plain or html but 
what I'd explained is most versatile for me.


Joseph.



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Joseph,

That is totally WRONG advice.

Momalot admitted to being a newbie on LegacyUserGroup. She has now learned 
how to post in plain text. You replied to her post from several days back 
which was in Rich text therefore your post also was RTF because you 
checked "Reply to messages in the format in which they were sent". That 
should be turned OFF. We should always post to Legacy in plain text 
regardless whether originating or replying.


Rootsweb allows posting to in any format because their server 
automatically converts to plain text. Some other groups totally reject 
RTF. Legacy's server can't do this but they request we co-operate by self 
control.


Legacy gives us an excellent product value for the money. I wouldn't want 
them to overspend on a server if they had to pass on the costs to us 
users.


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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Return Receipts



In Internet Explorer it's Tools/Options/Send and check "Reply to messages 
in the format in which they were sent"  Other programs are similar.


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 How do I change it to plain text?

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   and incidentally - your email is in HTML (Rich Text).  LUG strongly
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Re: [LegacyUG] Date descriptions

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I've run into a problem with dates too.

I've known the date, such as August 10.  But the year could be either 1853 
or 1854.  I've think I've tried the following:


10 Aug 1853-1854
10 Aug 1853-54
10 Aug 1853/1854
10 Aug 1853 or 1854

.and nothing works, it takes the highest year.

I would rather not have to use "abt" or "ca" for this as use these for dates 
that are entirely approximate, such as "abt June 1922"


Joseph


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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date descriptions




I use "ca" as in "ca 01/23/1947" or "ca 1953" for anything not exact,
possibly with a note as to why the "ca".



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Date descriptions

Dear listers:
I am looking at the options for recording approximate dates.  The legacy
options are "calculated" or "about".  When I estimate dates using the year
of a census and the age of the person which wording is better to use? 
Does

anyone have personal or other guidelines for which wording to use when (no
pun intended).?  Would there be a problem if I used "estimated" or 
"approx"?


Cathy, Dundas, Ontario





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Re: [LegacyUG] Date descriptions

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I didn't think about using those abbreviations for them since the date is 
not variable, just the year.   Guess that my alternative for now


Thanks Jenny


_

From Jenny M Benson
Legacy allows you to use "about", "circa" and "calculated" (with options 
for abbreviating each) with dates.  I can understand you not wishing to 
confuse a truly approximate date with one where you are sure there is only 
a possibility of 2 years, but why not use "about" for one circumstance and 
"circa" for the other?


You will know immediately precisely what is indicated by the wording and 
you can add a note to your file for the benefit of others.  (I live in 
hope of a "General Notes" field sometime, where we can add such 
information which is relevant to the whole file, not just particular 
individuals.)


PS Happy New Year, LUGgers!  I've been away for a few weeks and have 
missed you all.)


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Joseph  (Ragweed) wrote
I've known the date, such as August 10.  But the year could be either 1853 
or 1854.  I've think I've tried the following:


10 Aug 1853-1854
10 Aug 1853-54
10 Aug 1853/1854
10 Aug 1853 or 1854

.and nothing works, it takes the highest year.

I would rather not have to use "abt" or "ca" for this as use these for 
dates that are entirely approximate, such as "abt June 1922"








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Re: [LegacyUG] about New.FamilySearch

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I don't know about you all, but I've done better finding information at 
rootsweb than at familysearch.  And RW is easier to maneuver through... 
The only problem I've found it rooting for good solid information.







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[LegacyUG] Name List Window

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Back in my family there's areas where there's so many family names that sound 
the same, or are very similar   using names which are spelled nearly the 
same.

I'm running into areas where for each name I'm wanting to add, I have to search 
through my records for the name, and one file has about 9000 and another about 
500.  So I'm having to stop what I'm doing to bring up the search, then shut 
that down to do what's necessary...

Is there any way in which I can leave the name search window open, behind or to 
the side, while I'm entering information???

If not, I wonder how difficult it would be for the programmers to put that 
capability into the program?  It would be a good and beneficial thing for 
people with older computers where it takes a millennium for bring up the name 
search window just to have to shut it down again

Joseph






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Re: [LegacyUG] Name List Window

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Maybe I was a little vague in describing my problem.  No matter what I have 
up and running, it would be terrific to be able to have the Names List handy 
without going through closing what I have open, then opening the names, then 
going back  Very time consuming.


There's been times when I had the window up asking if I'm going to enter a 
new individual or one that's already in the data base.  With the Names list 
already open, I could quickly check to see if it's a name that's already 
there, without first closing the query box.


Joseph

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From ronald ferguson

Joseph,

It is not at all clear to me what you are asking here. If you enter names in 
the Individual Screen then there is a blue arrow at the end of the surname 
box which you can click to display all surnames. If, however, you are asking 
whether it is possible to search and amend a database at the same time then 
this is not possible for any database as far as I know.


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Back in my family there's areas where there's so many family names that 
sound the same, or are very similar   using names which are spelled 
nearly the same.


I'm running into areas where for each name I'm wanting to add, I have to 
search through my records for the name, and one file has about 9000 and 
another about 500.  So I'm having to stop what I'm doing to bring up the 
search, then shut that down to do what's necessary...


Is there any way in which I can leave the name search window open, behind or 
to the side, while I'm entering information???


If not, I wonder how difficult it would be for the programmers to put that 
capability into the program?  It would be a good and beneficial thing for 
people with older computers where it takes a millennium for bring up the 
name search window just to have to shut it down again







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Re: [LegacyUG] Name List Window

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I've been hearing a lot about "Access"Exactly what is this and where 
can I read up on it and maybe get it?


Also, I do have Open Office.   which program do I use and what file do I 
open?  If I sound like I'm not sure what I'm doing   you're right. 



Joseph



From Gary
You could however open a *copy* of the database in Access or OpenOffice, 
which would not be affected by the new entries. One would need to remember 
that names added during the current session would not be on the list, but 
unless one adds duplicates that would not be difficult to track. The one 
added in that sessiion would be present if a new copy was made for each 
subsequent session.


Gary Templeman

-- Original message --
From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Joseph,

I thought you may have meant something like that, hence my final comment.

It should be borne in mind that surnames are not stored in alphabetical 
order
but in the order they were added to the DB. Thus a new entry is added at 
the
end. When one asks for an alphabetical list then this means sorting, and 
whilst

I do not know how Legacy does this my guess is that a temporary table is
created. Adding a new name to the list means that the temporary file is 
now
invalid and a re-sort is necessary. Furthermore many other changes will 
have

been made to linked tables.

I do not know much about Access but I have, out of interest, run a test 
on a DB
I have written using Open Office for parish registers, whereby I sorted a 
table
and parked it on the task bar whilst I entered entered a fictitious 
person. When

I went back to it, it had been closed by OOo (as I expected).

My guess is that Access will do the same and hence I fear the answer is 
that it

cannot be done.

Ron Ferguson



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Name List Window
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:59:05 -0600
>
>
> Maybe I was a little vague in describing my problem. No matter what I 
> have
> up and running, it would be terrific to be able to have the Names List 
> handy
> without going through closing what I have open, then opening the names, 
> then

> going back  Very time consuming.
>
> There's been times when I had the window up asking if I'm going to 
> enter a
> new individual or one that's already in the data base. With the Names 
> list
> already open, I could quickly check to see if it's a name that's 
> already

> there, without first closing the query box.
>
> Joseph
>
> _
> From ronald ferguson
> Joseph,
>
> It is not at all clear to me what you are asking here. If you enter 
> names in
> the Individual Screen then there is a blue arrow at the end of the 
> surname
> box which you can click to display all surnames. If, however, you are 
> asking
> whether it is possible to search and amend a database at the same time 
> then

> this is not possible for any database as far as I know.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Back in my family there's areas where there's so many family names that
> sound the same, or are very similar using names which are spelled
> nearly the same.
>
> I'm running into areas where for each name I'm wanting to add, I have 
> to

> search through my records for the name, and one file has about 9000 and
> another about 500. So I'm having to stop what I'm doing to bring up the
> search, then shut that down to do what's necessary...
>
> Is there any way in which I can leave the name search window open, 
> behind or

> to the side, while I'm entering information???
>
> If not, I wonder how difficult it would be for the programmers to put 
> that
> capability into the program? It would be a good and beneficial thing 
> for
> people with older computers where it takes a millennium for bring up 
> the

> name search window just to have to shut it down again
>

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[LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I have two files, one rather large.  I'm wanting to connect the two together 
into one file

I've read some of the stuff from the help file on merging, but it's like 
reading a Mortgage Application.

HELP!!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

There may be as many as 20 or 25 (maybe more) people who are common, the 
rest are different.


_

From JLB
It's not as hard as it may seem.   Do you have many people the same in 
both files or is there just one point of connection?  You only have to 
merge the common folks.  Everything else just flows together.


_
Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:
I have two files, one rather large.  I'm wanting to connect the two 
together into one file
 I've read some of the stuff from the help file on merging, but it's like 
reading a Mortgage Application.

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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

It's a city, but while it's not a state or country, it is a district of the 
United States just like some of the other territories   Like Hawaii and 
Alaska used to be before they were introduced into statehood.


Therefore, if you write a letter there, it would be like this:

   Samuel Smith
   8432  Pennsylvania Avenue
   Washington, D.C.   (and the zip)


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How should District of Columbia for Washington,  D.C. be sited?  City,
County, State, USA???






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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

These names are not in one single file.  There are two separate files.

_

From JLB
I'm trying to imagine what you're doing and since I don't know, I really 
don't know.  Except your language hints at something.  What do you mean 
you took one database and merged the other database?   You have to 
'Import' one file into the other, or both files into a new family file 
before you even begin merging.  There's no such thing as separate 
databases when you're merging.  At that point you've just got one and 
you're looking for the duplicates within it.


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Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:
I'm having funbut I'm really glad I saved the new database under 
a new name.  


I took database 'Smith' (653 names)
Then
I merged database 'Jones' (8832 names)
   I've been working on this one for about 35 years
I'd gone through all the directives, clicks, and such in the merge.
Then I'm looking at the new database 'blunderbuss' (8831 names)
I see names from 'Jones' so I look for names from 'Smith' and they are 
not there.


What's worse, I understand meging can (or will) remove one of the 
duplicate names, but I lost a name   Possibly from a duplication I'd 
already had in the file.


I was in smith, wanting to bring jones into it, and I end up with 
blunderbuss with one less name than jones and with no smith.  Doesn't 
make sense.


Like I said, I still have the two old files so I can start over.  One 
thing I've just now considered is that maybe I should have saved it in 
the 'smith' file where I started.


What's you're opinion of this??




From JLB
Oh, well, that's pretty easy.

Basically, it goes like this:

Import one file into the other.  Under "File" - Import from.  After 
that:


Click the Merge button, and go to Find Duplicates, then follow all the 
prompts about backing up your files.  On the Merge Options screen it's 
already got some default options set up.  That's fine for now probably. 
Click Continue on that.


On the Merging Two Individuals screen it will begin to bring up what it 
thinks are duplicates.  If you're sure left and right side are the same 
person, you can click the items left or right side that you want to 
keep, go through all the tabs along the top doing the same thing and 
then click Merge Right into Left Individual.  If you're not sure, DO NOT 
MERGE.
What you can do instead at this point is click Options and tag both 
individuals.  Later you can Search those people and see them (probably) 
side-by-side in the Name List.  Over there it might become clearer to 
you if they're the same person or not, and then you can go back and do a 
Manual merge.


Also, take note of black button(s) over on the left side of the screen. 
If you click on one you'll see you have other options.  Sometimes you'd 
like to keep some of the information from one version of the individual 
although you're mostly choosing the other one.


Anyway, carry on through your Merge screen like this, doing what you can 
or clicking Skip to Next.


As you're going through, under Options, you can also click on "Not 
Duplicates" when you're sure about that, so the next time you run a 
Merge they won't show up.


If you totally blow it you can restore your database to what it was 
before you started the merge.  Under Edit/Undo merge on the main 
toolbar.  You can also (under 'Merge') view the Not Duplicates list, 
delete everything and start over at any time.
Merging is really fun once you get into it.  It looks hard until you 
realize how easy and well-designed it is.  I avoided it for a long time 
and when I finally got into I didn't want to leave.
If you only have a handful of people to merge you can also do this 
through a split screen view dragging one side to the appropriate box on 
the other. I believe there's a video demonstration of that somewhere at 
the Legacy site, perhaps under Tips from the Experts.


JL



Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:



There may be as many as 20 or 25 (maybe more) people who are common, 
the rest are different.


_

From JLB
It's not as hard as it may seem.   Do you have many people the same in 
both files or is there just one point of connection?  You only have to 
merge the common folks.  Everything else just flows together.


_
Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:
I have two files, one rather large.  I'm wanting to connect the two 
together into one file
 I've read some of the stuff from the help file on merging, but it's 
like reading a Mortgage Application.

 HELP!!







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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I think part of this question would be the time factor.  At what time did 
this individual live, marry, or die there?  Whatever nation was in control 
of that particular place, in this case the Virgin Islands, you use that.


I would think it's like our states.  At one time Charleston, WV was part of 
Virginia...   and if an ancestor was there during that time, then it should 
be marked as Virginia, not West Virginia.


Joseph


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From familyjesse


Okay, pardon my confusion, but how would you address Virgin Islands. I have 
family from the Virgin Islands and there are two designations for them:


Virgin Islands, Danish West Indies
Or
Virgin Islands, USA

The Virgin Islands are territories of the USA. So how are people designating 
places like Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico... and in past times Philippines.



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Joseph wrote:
We could use USA or United States for any address which is in the 50 states. 
However, I don't think it's in any way a part of an address of a district. 
For instance, the "Virgin Islands" I don't believe they can lay claim to 
the USA part for their address.


Addresses in "districts" are not like addresses in the States. Washington is 
a district called Columbia.


I lived only 75 miles from there and no one ever attached USA (just a zip) 
to Washington D.C.


_
From: Heather Stovold
Well, I would do something like

Washington, , District of Columbia, United States
I don't know if there is a county or not.

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On Jan 24, 2008 6:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How should District of Columbia for Washington, D.C. be sited? City,
County, State, USA???







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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing to Web

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I use "SmartFTP" for an upload program.  It's simple, easy to use, and free.

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From Barbara Ford
I've read the help files and tutorials on publishing to the web. It seems 
extremely complex. Am I right that I have to contact my ISP and have them 
give me a location and then use some kind of FTP program? Is it as 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

I'm having funbut I'm really glad I saved the new database under a 
new name.  


I took database 'Smith' (653 names)
Then
I merged database 'Jones' (8832 names)
   I've been working on this one for about 35 years
I'd gone through all the directives, clicks, and such in the merge.
Then I'm looking at the new database 'blunderbuss' (8831 names)
I see names from 'Jones' so I look for names from 'Smith' and they are not 
there.


What's worse, I understand meging can (or will) remove one of the duplicate 
names, but I lost a name   Possibly from a duplication I'd already had 
in the file.


I was in smith, wanting to bring jones into it, and I end up with 
blunderbuss with one less name than jones and with no smith.  Doesn't make 
sense.


Like I said, I still have the two old files so I can start over.  One thing 
I've just now considered is that maybe I should have saved it in the 'smith' 
file where I started.


What's you're opinion of this??




From JLB
Oh, well, that's pretty easy.

Basically, it goes like this:

Import one file into the other.  Under "File" - Import from.  After that:

Click the Merge button, and go to Find Duplicates, then follow all the 
prompts about backing up your files.  On the Merge Options screen it's 
already got some default options set up.  That's fine for now probably. 
Click Continue on that.


On the Merging Two Individuals screen it will begin to bring up what it 
thinks are duplicates.  If you're sure left and right side are the same 
person, you can click the items left or right side that you want to keep, 
go through all the tabs along the top doing the same thing and then click 
Merge Right into Left Individual.  If you're not sure, DO NOT MERGE.
What you can do instead at this point is click Options and tag both 
individuals.  Later you can Search those people and see them (probably) 
side-by-side in the Name List.  Over there it might become clearer to you 
if they're the same person or not, and then you can go back and do a 
Manual merge.


Also, take note of black button(s) over on the left side of the screen. 
If you click on one you'll see you have other options.  Sometimes you'd 
like to keep some of the information from one version of the individual 
although you're mostly choosing the other one.


Anyway, carry on through your Merge screen like this, doing what you can 
or clicking Skip to Next.


As you're going through, under Options, you can also click on "Not 
Duplicates" when you're sure about that, so the next time you run a Merge 
they won't show up.


If you totally blow it you can restore your database to what it was before 
you started the merge.  Under Edit/Undo merge on the main toolbar.  You 
can also (under 'Merge') view the Not Duplicates list, delete everything 
and start over at any time.
Merging is really fun once you get into it.  It looks hard until you 
realize how easy and well-designed it is.  I avoided it for a long time 
and when I finally got into I didn't want to leave.
If you only have a handful of people to merge you can also do this through 
a split screen view dragging one side to the appropriate box on the other. 
I believe there's a video demonstration of that somewhere at the Legacy 
site, perhaps under Tips from the Experts.


JL



Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:



There may be as many as 20 or 25 (maybe more) people who are common, the 
rest are different.


_

From JLB
It's not as hard as it may seem.   Do you have many people the same in 
both files or is there just one point of connection?  You only have to 
merge the common folks.  Everything else just flows together.


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Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:
I have two files, one rather large.  I'm wanting to connect the two 
together into one file
 I've read some of the stuff from the help file on merging, but it's 
like reading a Mortgage Application.

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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

We could use USA or United States for any address which is in the 50 states.  
However, I don't think it's in any way a part of an address of a district.  For 
instance, the "Virgin Islands"   I don't believe they can lay claim to the 
USA part for their address.

Addresses in "districts" are not like addresses in the States.  Washington is a 
district called Columbia.

I lived only 75 miles from there and no one ever attached USA (just a zip) to 
Washington D.C.


  From: Heather Stovold 
  Well, I would do something like

  Washington, , District of Columbia, United States

  I don't know if there is a county or not.   

   
  On Jan 24, 2008 6:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How should District of Columbia for Washington,  D.C. be sited?  City,
County, State, USA???






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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

You are so right.  Thank you for letting me see the view of others who are 
elsewhere in the world.  I've been thinking with the aspect of being IN the 
United States.  Of course from outside the US, the USA would be needed   
just to ensure they get it to the correct hemisphere and country.  

Of course that would be appropriate for any address in and/or among the 50 
States, when originating from outside the US.

Joseph


  From: Jennifer Crockett 
  I can understand your logic, Joseph, but don't know what a postal worker in 
Australia would make of a letter addressed like that! If he was reasonably 
intelligent he would put it in the bag going to the USA, I guess.

   

  Jennifer

   

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph 
(Ragweed)
  Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2008 12:01 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

   

   

  We could use USA or United States for any address which is in the 50 states.  
However, I don't think it's in any way a part of an address of a district.  For 
instance, the "Virgin Islands"   I don't believe they can lay claim to the 
USA part for their address.

   

  Addresses in "districts" are not like addresses in the States.  Washington is 
a district called Columbia.

   

  I lived only 75 miles from there and no one ever attached USA (just a zip) to 
Washington D.C.

   

   

From: Heather Stovold 

Well, I would do something like

 

Washington, , District of Columbia, United States

I don't know if there is a county or not.   


 

On Jan 24, 2008 6:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How should District of Columbia for Washington,  D.C. be sited?  City,
County, State, USA???

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Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Good point, and well taken.  You are quite correct.

Georgetown and Arlington are indeed also in those time factor things.  I've 
been there and the streets and traffic are insane   Large circles with 6 or 
eight streets intersecting...   If you don't get the right street the first 
time you could go around for hours.   

Anyway...   good point.

Joseph


  From: frankanedc 
  Georgetown is interesting because it was a separate city before the District 
of Columbia was established, so if your entry is prior to 1800 it would be 
Georgetown, Montgomery Co., Maryland.  Not now though.  Now, it identifies a 
part of the city of Washington, like Harlem or Soho in New York, but it is not 
a politically defined area.The real estate market makes most use of names 
like Georgetown, Foggy Bottom, Capitol Hill, etc., but they're not good post 
office addresses.I would put Georgetown, etc. in notes if you want to keep 
it.  Street addresses and zip codes go in address lists, but not in 'Location' 
on the individual's information page. 

  Other places that give rise to similar problems are Arlington, Virginia, 
which is all urban county is not a city, and St. Louis or Los Angeles, which 
are counties as well as cities.   And then there's New York City with its five 
boroughs. . .

  Joseph (Ragweed) wrote: 

Well Fran, while we were thinking along the same lines up to now, it looks 
like we must both reconsider rethinking on the use of maybe spelling out for 
anyone outside the US (the colonies).  I think I would even add in inner D.C. 
community names.  In example: 

   John Smith 
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW 
   Georgetown, Washington 
   District of Columbia, U.S.A. 

or this: 

   John Smith 
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW 
   Washington District of Columbia, U.S.A. 

or at least this: 

   John Smith 
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW 
   Washington D.C., U.S.A. 

This way there's no possible way it could be misconstrued as another place 
or country.  I think the key is in the "U.S.A."  I mean, when we in the states 
enter an address for say, Germany, it's more like: 

   Johann Schmidt 
   1234 Friedrich Strasse 
   Stuttgart, Rhein, Germany 

or something like that.  Bear in mind, this is not an actual address... 
   But we should always enter the country in the address, at least I do. 

Joseph 
P.S.   Gee, I'm really learning things today.




  From ronald ferguson 

To someone from England "Washington D.C." could easily be taken as 
Washington County Durham - and yes there is one! 
Ron Ferguson 


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  Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:11:42 -0500 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

  It has no county and it has no state. Just ask anyone who lives there -- 
  no voting representation in Congress although we do have a vote in the 
  presidential elections for the past 35 years or thereabouts. 

  It is a city in a district in the United States. It is unlike all other 
  US locations. I enter it Washington, DC. If you want to spell it out, it 
  is Washington, District of Columbia. I don't put USA in any of my US 
  locations, but if I were outside the United States, I would enter 
  Washington, DC, USA. 

  Adding extra commas won't hurt, I suppose, since you can eliminate them 
  in printing reports. 


  Crockett wrote: 


I can understand your logic, Joseph, but don’t know what a postal 
worker in Australia would make of a letter addressed like that! If he 
was reasonably intelligent he would put it in the bag going to the 
USA, I guess. 

Jennifer 

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
*Joseph (Ragweed) 
*Sent:* Saturday, 26 January 2008 12:01 AM 
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia 

We could use USA or United States for any address which is in the 50 
states. However, I don't think it's in any way a part of an address of 
a district. For instance, the "Virgin Islands" I don't believe 
they can lay claim to the USA part for their address. 

Addresses in "districts" are not li

Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Well Fran, while we were thinking along the same lines up to now, it looks 
like we must both reconsider rethinking on the use of maybe spelling out for 
anyone outside the US (the colonies).  I think I would even add in inner 
D.C. community names.  In example:


   John Smith
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW
   Georgetown, Washington
   District of Columbia, U.S.A.

or this:

   John Smith
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW
   Washington District of Columbia, U.S.A.

or at least this:

   John Smith
   1234 Harrington Blvd  NW
   Washington D.C., U.S.A.

This way there's no possible way it could be misconstrued as another place 
or country.  I think the key is in the "U.S.A."  I mean, when we in the 
states enter an address for say, Germany, it's more like:


   Johann Schmidt
   1234 Friedrich Strasse
   Stuttgart, Rhein, Germany

or something like that.  Bear in mind, this is not an actual address... 
   But we should always enter the country in the address, at least I 
do.


Joseph
P.S.   Gee, I'm really learning things today.   




From ronald ferguson
To someone from England "Washington D.C." could easily be taken as 
Washington County Durham - and yes there is one!

Ron Ferguson


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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:11:42 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

It has no county and it has no state. Just ask anyone who lives there --
no voting representation in Congress although we do have a vote in the
presidential elections for the past 35 years or thereabouts.

It is a city in a district in the United States. It is unlike all other
US locations. I enter it Washington, DC. If you want to spell it out, it
is Washington, District of Columbia. I don't put USA in any of my US
locations, but if I were outside the United States, I would enter
Washington, DC, USA.

Adding extra commas won't hurt, I suppose, since you can eliminate them
in printing reports.


Crockett wrote:


I can understand your logic, Joseph, but don’t know what a postal
worker in Australia would make of a letter addressed like that! If he
was reasonably intelligent he would put it in the bag going to the
USA, I guess.

Jennifer

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*Joseph (Ragweed)
*Sent:* Saturday, 26 January 2008 12:01 AM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] District of Columbia

We could use USA or United States for any address which is in the 50
states. However, I don't think it's in any way a part of an address of
a district. For instance, the "Virgin Islands" I don't believe
they can lay claim to the USA part for their address.

Addresses in "districts" are not like addresses in the States.
Washington is a district called Columbia.

I lived only 75 miles from there and no one ever attached USA (just a
zip) to Washington D.C.

*From:* Heather Stovold

Well, I would do something like

Washington, , District of Columbia, United States

I don't know if there is a county or not.


On Jan 24, 2008 6:22 PM, > > wrote:

How should District of Columbia for Washington, D.C. be sited? City,
County, State, USA???



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Hey Mike, I'm not confused   just very disorganized.

OK, maybe I am having a bit of dementia   I'm getting to the right age 
for it.   


Joseph

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From Mike Fry
That's not strictly true :-) There's always the option to Drag And Drop 
from one file to another. Damn! Now I've probably confused Joseph even 
more. Still, there's always the on-line Help and the tips on the website 
to assist.


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You cannot merge people until they are in the same family file.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

OK, I've done all the steps and got it all in there   HOWEVER , it 
found not 25 or 30, but rather 550 like files through which I had to sort.


I ran into one problem though   some of them would bring up a little 
window giving the option of saying No, they're absolutely not the same 
person.  On the other hand, there were a lot in which the little window 
didn't show up and they were not the same individual, but I could tell the 
program they were not the same.


Any way around this?

_____

From Joseph
Hey Mike, I'm not confused   just very disorganized.

OK, maybe I am having a bit of dementia   I'm getting to the right age 
for it.   


_

From Mike Fry
That's not strictly true :-) There's always the option to Drag And Drop 
from one file to another. Damn! Now I've probably confused Joseph even 
more. Still, there's always the on-line Help and the tips on the website 
to assist.


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You cannot merge people until they are in the same family file.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging....

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

It was done when I wrote thatI was amazed how many there were. 
However, Considering that I have over 9000 names all together, 550 isn't 
bad.



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From JLB
Nope.  That's pretty well how it goes.  It will scan your entire database 
putting up comparisons that you have to make choices about.  It's not a 
rocket-scientist, just a computer.  If you know it's not a duplicate, you 
can mark it Not a Duplicate so it doesn't come up again the next time you 
run the Merge option.  If you're not sure, tag the two individuals so you 
can look at them more closely later.  That's about it.  Just slog your way 
through.  OR, if you're sure you only have 25 or 30 you will probably find 
them next to each other in the Name List.  You could find one pair at a 
time there and do a manual merge on them.


JL

Joseph (Ragweed) wrote:



OK, I've done all the steps and got it all in there   HOWEVER , 
it found not 25 or 30, but rather 550 like files through which I had to 
sort.


I ran into one problem though   some of them would bring up a little 
window giving the option of saying No, they're absolutely not the same 
person.  On the other hand, there were a lot in which the little window 
didn't show up and they were not the same individual, but I could tell 
the program they were not the same.


Any way around this?

_

From Joseph
Hey Mike, I'm not confused   just very disorganized.

OK, maybe I am having a bit of dementia   I'm getting to the right 
age for it.   


_

From Mike Fry
That's not strictly true :-) There's always the option to Drag And Drop 
from one file to another. Damn! Now I've probably confused Joseph even 
more. Still, there's always the on-line Help and the tips on the 
website to assist.


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Re: [LegacyUG] A Version 7 question and Map My Family Tree

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Do you have a URL for this;  where I can learn more about it?




From Tim Rosenlof
Map My Family Tree is a addon.(Separate Program By Progeny). It has no 
part of Legacy, except it uses your Legacy database. It does include 
Ireland. Now if you are talking about the current Legacy6, and the 
GeoDatabase, it does also include Ireland.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this cover Ireland please ?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I really like it. MMFT shows migration paterns, shows where your ancesters 
birth, marriage, probate, residence, all your events. State, county. Plot 
those. Print the maps, pdf, save as image (jpg) etc. Gazetter you can add 
to or ignore. Geo codes all your names and places, time periods and 
more.Time scrolling and more. I hardly use the online items. The program 
has a learning curve, but very useful the more you use it.



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I head that MMFT was not all that helpful and was based really on online 
maps.  Is that true--for some of you that do have the program?







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Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on event names

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

If I may interject my thought here.  I find this rather interesting.

When I think of England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, South Africa, Australia, 
New Zealand etc., I think of individually governed countries within a single 
nation unit.  In example the British Isles.


When I see the term Britain or British Isles, etc. I think of the nation 
unit that is over the individual countries.  I know "nation" might not be 
the right word   Britain, in my humble mind, seems to me to be the 
overall government and Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, Australia 
are all ultimately ruled by the Crown.


I did seem to consider that the Royal Crown was over all the British 
holdings, and each of them are individually governed within themselves. 
Almost like our state and federal relationship, except I see Britain as 
allowing a greater self-governing rule with some minor overseeing by the 
Crown;  where as in the United States, there's this HUMONGOUS federal 
government where people like to dictate what the individual states can and 
cannot do.


If I'm wrong (and I probably am), I love to know 'exactly' how this really 
is   I have lots of ancestry and interest in


I will accept private eMail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this would be too far 
off topic.


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Yes! That's because Americans think that Scotland & Ireland are States 
within the UK. The TNA regards the censuses as separate entities, based on 
the legal system: England & Wales being one entity, Scotland a second and 
Ireland (north & south until partition) a third.


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Thanks Mike,
Although I should point out that the set of CDs produced by the LDS 
Church is quite clearly labelled 1881 British Census and includes 
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Re: [LegacyUG] CHILD OF UNMARRIED PERSON

[Joseph (Ragweed)]

Set them up just like the parents are married, but in the marriage section, you 
enter "Never Married" for the parents.

  From: Dick 
  I have a ( male ) cousin who had a relationship that resulted in a son being 
born. As far as I know and / or have been told be his siblings, the couple 
never married, and the son was raised by the mother. The boy is now over 21.

  My problem is  ...  how to enter this person in the family records? I 
presently have him with his father  ( along with the mother ) , and hsve notes 
that the father and mother never married, and that he was raised by the mother. 

  All that is known of her is her surname  JOHNSON  ...  the father ( cousin ) 
more or less has been unreachable for many years.

  Any ( workable ) ideas?

  Thanks

  Dick








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