Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry and others who be just starting out, Please keep in mind that Genealogy is only a hobby and as such; is supposed to be fun ! Some folks take it far to seriously and attempt to turn it into an exact science or their life's work. Do not think that there is only one way to accomplish this or a single way to use Legacy. You are the only one who can decide what is an acceptable level of proof, what/who to include in your database and how much documentation you personally require. My personal philosophy is that the closer the relationship to me the more documentation I attempt to collect. This is totally unacceptable to some folks and is fine with me. They certainly are free to NOT use the information I have taken the time to collect. Nor, do I post my sources on line. If someone wants my sources; then they can contact me. I am always willing to share. That is a common trait among people involved in the hobby. This is certainly reflected by the activity on this list. Keep it Fun !! Have a great weekend ! [><] Tom Watkins Eau Gallie, Florida W_a_t_k_i_n_s, A_d_a_m_s, B_o_n_d, B_o_o_t_h, B_r_o_o_k_s, C_a_i_n, C_l_e_m_e_n_t_s, G_i_b_s_o_n, H_o_w_e_l_l, J_o_n_e_s, L_a_s_s_i_t_e_r, M_a_r_s_h, P_a_r_r_i_s_h, R_e_e_v_e_s, S_a_n_d_e_r_s, W_a_l_l http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tew4515/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=tew4515&I11.x=26&I11.y=5 tomsgenealogy at yahoo dot com "A meddling yankee is God’s worst creation. He cannot run his own affairs correctly, but he is constantly interfering in the affairs of others, and he is always ready to repent of everyone’s sin but his own."— M. D. Hall, a prominent North Carolina gentleman in the 1850 s http://www.scv.org/video.php http://www.1800mydixie.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Mary, Thanks for the cautions and the sites for online genealogy lessons. I'm going to check those out soon. Sherry - Original Message - From: "Mary Moyer" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:31:19 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out And if the "sources" listed are "GEDCOM from so-and-so," their information probably isn't very accurate. A GEDCOM isn't a true source. Your sources should be things such as census records, church records, marriage, death, land, etc. And remember that almost any source can have errors. Even if the sources look complete, they might be fraudulent because the person wanted to be a Mayflower descendant or whatever. Don't add GEDCOMs to your database just because it has someone with the same name as your ancestor - you'll be surprised at just how many men had the same names, and sometimes even lived in the same area. I researched one county that had 14 men with the same name, and although some were related, they weren't all related to each other. Take all the information you find with a grain of salt and then verify and analyze. Look at it carefully to see if it makes sense - are the kids listed as being born too far apart, too close together, too late in the marriage, before the mother was of age to have children, etc. Was the family listed as being in the US before there were even settlers or in a "state" before it was settled (i.e., born in Illinois in 1630)? Don't laugh - I've seen all of the above. On one database, my mother is married to her step-father and another I've seen, one child is also his own grandfather, born before his parents were born. Some other ideas - take some classes in genealogy research, read some basic genealogy books on how to find information, visit your local Family History Center and your library, visit a larger genealogy library. There are also some good basic online lessons at Rootsweb, Ancestry and FamilySearch. Mary Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrE9StSxnpnZ5IizIv4oa1ugdYUyQz4OsUBlYKxQnQ0pOQTEafG/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Heather, What a wonderful idea. That is something that makes sense to me and doesn't "clutter" my family database. Thank you so much. Sherry - Original Message - From: "Heather Stovold" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:49:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out What I do, is I download the information into a DIFFERENT Legacy database I include something like Research, or something like that in the name. So probably something like "Research Smith FS" (a Research database on the Smith line that I got off of Family Search". I can put more information on where I got it in something like the Research Notes. I use my research databases as CLUES as to what might be the information. When I have verified the information for a person or family from sources, I usually use Spit-Screen to drag the person into my main database (after making sure I have "Cleaned" the person places, etc to fit the standards I use to input information.) Again - I'm only moving a person or maybe a family. Therefore, I don't have "garbage" cluttering my database, yet I have the information readily available. And I don't have to type in everything either. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, < daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net > wrote: Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out -- downloaded trees
Ken, I appreciate the step-by-step ideas about how to go about cleaning up the temporary database. It sure helps me to get off to a good start. And, you are right, maybe, just maybe, I've found a whole wagon load of family! Sherry - Original Message - From: "Ward Walker" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:35:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out -- downloaded trees Sherry, As someone suggested earlier, import the downloaded GEDCOM into a temporary Legacy family file, not your main one. Then do as much cleanup and sanity checking as you can. Only when you find that you trust the data, merge it, or parts of it, into your file. Legacy has substantial tools to help resolve duplications during a merge, although not foolproof (e.g., if names are spelled differently). Any family trees that I have found at public web sites contain either clear mistakes or unwarranted assumptions. Some people seem to throw together databases from various sources and hope that these people are really connected. Assumptions can get propagated until they appear to be validated from multiple sources, when really they are not. Sometimes you see birth dates that are clearly impossible. Of course if you can contact the person who uploaded the tree and get to know how they acquired the data, you are much further ahead. Aside from whether the individuals really belong in your tree, you can clean up more mundane things like standardizing locations and dates before the merge. For sources, you can automatically add a source during the merge that indicates that the individuals came from the online database. If you verify some data using other sources, you can add those source citations before or after the merge. The good news is that may have found a large extended family that is valid! Good luck. Ward - Original Message - From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
And if the "sources" listed are "GEDCOM from so-and-so," their information probably isn't very accurate. A GEDCOM isn't a true source. Your sources should be things such as census records, church records, marriage, death, land, etc. And remember that almost any source can have errors. Even if the sources look complete, they might be fraudulent because the person wanted to be a Mayflower descendant or whatever. Don't add GEDCOMs to your database just because it has someone with the same name as your ancestor - you'll be surprised at just how many men had the same names, and sometimes even lived in the same area. I researched one county that had 14 men with the same name, and although some were related, they weren't all related to each other. Take all the information you find with a grain of salt and then verify and analyze. Look at it carefully to see if it makes sense - are the kids listed as being born too far apart, too close together, too late in the marriage, before the mother was of age to have children, etc. Was the family listed as being in the US before there were even settlers or in a "state" before it was settled (i.e., born in Illinois in 1630)? Don't laugh - I've seen all of the above. On one database, my mother is married to her step-father and another I've seen, one child is also his own grandfather, born before his parents were born. Some other ideas - take some classes in genealogy research, read some basic genealogy books on how to find information, visit your local Family History Center and your library, visit a larger genealogy library. There are also some good basic online lessons at Rootsweb, Ancestry and FamilySearch. Mary Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrE9StSxnpnZ5IizIv4oa1ugdYUyQz4OsUBlYKxQnQ0pOQTEafG/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out -- downloaded trees
Sherry, I won't put anything in to my tree I haven't hunted up myself then all my mistakes are mine. I download a tree and give it a distinctive name and poke around and follow the hint I have gotten, much safer that way. Eliz On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Ward Walker wrote: > Sherry, > > As someone suggested earlier, import the downloaded GEDCOM into a temporary > Legacy family file, not your main one. Then do as much cleanup and sanity > checking as you can. Only when you find that you trust the data, merge it, > or parts of it, into your file. Legacy has substantial tools to help resolve > duplications during a merge, although not foolproof (e.g., if names are > spelled differently). > > Any family trees that I have found at public web sites contain either clear > mistakes or unwarranted assumptions. Some people seem to throw together > databases from various sources and hope that these people are really > connected. Assumptions can get propagated until they appear to be validated > from multiple sources, when really they are not. Sometimes you see birth > dates that are clearly impossible. Of course if you can contact the person > who uploaded the tree and get to know how they acquired the data, you are > much further ahead. > > Aside from whether the individuals really belong in your tree, you can clean > up more mundane things like standardizing locations and dates before the > merge. > > For sources, you can automatically add a source during the merge that > indicates that the individuals came from the online database. If you verify > some data using other sources, you can add those source citations before or > after the merge. > > The good news is that may have found a large extended family that is valid! > Good luck. > > Ward > > - Original Message - From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out > > > Tom, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day > with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually > right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure > how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since > I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way > through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter > 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or > delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit > of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's > research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the > proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that > verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy > DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? > > Sherry > > ... > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
How is this book different from the one that Legacy does? I got the Legacy manual when I ordered 7.0. On Sep 17, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote: Take a look at Mark Lang's book at the Legacy Store. I've not used it so I cannot give a review. I do know Mark has been a Legacy user for years. http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
And *never* import directly into your main Family File. Always import into a new Family File, review the material, run it through the Potential Problems report to look for poor data entry habits and determine if you *really* want that data in your file. After verifying and importing, do a merge to combine any possible duplicates. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Bowman Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry: I can't resist the urge to butt in here. Personally I'd *never* download a file from Ancestry or RootsWeb. If these people aren't sufficiently important to you to warrant entering them individually, carefully, and according to your own standards then you probably don't need them in your database. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, I don't download GEDCOMs found on Ancestry or RootsWeb, but I do sometimes accept hints and add information from other trees into my Ancestry tree on a limited basis - one or two generations at a time, and then do my due diligence to confirm the data. It's not unusual to find multiple public trees that have the same, erroneous data, that was just recopied by others. I usually try to find ones that have some source information listed. If I find something that is incorrect, I will usually try to contact the owner of the information and offer to collaborate. I enter everything manually into my Legacy database when I'm confident that what I have is real. Periodically - maybe twice a year, I might download a GEDCOM of my personal ancestry tree, and then compare it to my Legacy information looking for source information I may have forgotten to enter into Legacy, or where I may have mistyped something. Tom On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:22 PM, wrote: > Tom, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other > day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually > right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure > how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since > I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way > through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter > 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or > delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit > of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's > research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the > proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that > verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy > DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? > > > > Sherry > > > - Original Message - > From: "TomK" > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out > > Sherry, > > You asked: > "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that > have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information > and then go about trying to verify it? " > > I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that > you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do > include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I > would suggest when you add information to your database is that: > 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where > and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to > look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of > information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with > what you already have. > 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, > and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later > identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety > Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. > > Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to > verify/validate the information. > > Tom > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >> My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it >> for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I >> have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good >> point when he wrote: >> >> >> >> > starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not > The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the >> database can be > database, if there are to be multiple output formats. >> >> >> I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I >> want to use Legacy for are: >> >> >> >> 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch >> >> 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their >> spouses and children >> >> 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my >> ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small >> family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. >> >> >> >> I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out -- downloaded trees
Sherry, As someone suggested earlier, import the downloaded GEDCOM into a temporary Legacy family file, not your main one. Then do as much cleanup and sanity checking as you can. Only when you find that you trust the data, merge it, or parts of it, into your file. Legacy has substantial tools to help resolve duplications during a merge, although not foolproof (e.g., if names are spelled differently). Any family trees that I have found at public web sites contain either clear mistakes or unwarranted assumptions. Some people seem to throw together databases from various sources and hope that these people are really connected. Assumptions can get propagated until they appear to be validated from multiple sources, when really they are not. Sometimes you see birth dates that are clearly impossible. Of course if you can contact the person who uploaded the tree and get to know how they acquired the data, you are much further ahead. Aside from whether the individuals really belong in your tree, you can clean up more mundane things like standardizing locations and dates before the merge. For sources, you can automatically add a source during the merge that indicates that the individuals came from the online database. If you verify some data using other sources, you can add those source citations before or after the merge. The good news is that may have found a large extended family that is valid! Good luck. Ward - Original Message - From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
wrote I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. If you are going to take your genealogy studies seriously you really should do your own research and not just rely on someone else's say-so. That's not to say you shouldn't download someone's tree (with their permission, preferably!) and use it as a basis for your own research. If the other person's tree has what look like well-founded and reliable Sources, you might feel it less important to follow everything up, but if there are no Sources or flimsy ones, you'd be well advised to do your own research, but their data will give you a good idea where to start. Doing your own research is much more fun than have someone else do it all for you and the "professional" way is to start with yourself and work back one generation at a time. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I would Gedcom the whole 5000 to a new database (as discussed earlier). No need to TYPE all that. Then some of the stuff on Ancestry has sources listed. I don't use it much for that anymore (other places) but what I have done, at adding them in, tag everyone with a one, and over the next six months locate each source (to verify/make copies of the items) then remove the tag. When you finish as much as you care about, then you can decide to add into your main DB. Happy transferring, Rich in LA CA From: "daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:22:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry - Original Message - From: "TomK" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry, You asked: "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? " I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, wrote: Hi Everyone, > >My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for >about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only >purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he >wrote: > >out on our ancestral trail - we do not this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be >to be multiple output formats. > >I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to >use Legacy for are: > >1) To upload my data to FamilySearch >2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their >spouses and children >3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, >including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a >brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. > >I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and >they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. >However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. >And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online >information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how >do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying >to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to >even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go >about this? > >Sherry >Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages: > http://ww
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Sherry: I can't resist the urge to butt in here. Personally I'd *never* download a file from Ancestry or RootsWeb. If these people aren't sufficiently important to you to warrant entering them individually, carefully, and according to your own standards then you probably don't need them in your database. Begin with what you know and can prove with solid sources and enter that. When you hit a sticking point, then you can do a search at Ancestry (I actually prefer RootsWeb) to see if anyone else has researched that particular ancestor and if they give any clues to help expand your search. Look especially for files with source notes included and then check out those sources yourself. Avoid "adopting" any files indicating that the data came from someone else's GEDCOM or from other trees at Ancestry. Those may give you clues about where to look for proof, but don't accept them without checking the sources personally. And make full use of Legacy's Research Guidance. Unfortunately there's a tremendous amount of genealogical garbage in trees and even personal websites online and most of it comes from people downloading and merging GEDCOMs from others without checking to see if it makes sense. Ancestry seems dedicated to making that easier to do with every "innovation." Off my soapbox now. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry - Original Message - From: "TomK" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry, You asked: "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? " I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Are there people in the list you are closely related to? If there are, could you start with them? and work out? If there aren't, who is in the list that you are interested in? Maybe start with them? I would source what I could for the closest ones, and pick a line and work out, maybe line by line. Elizabeth C daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net wrote: Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry - Original Message - From: "TomK" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry, You asked: "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? " I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, <mailto:daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net>> wrote: Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their spouses and children 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go about this? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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What I do, is I download the information into a DIFFERENT Legacy database I include something like Research, or something like that in the name. So probably something like "Research Smith FS" (a Research database on the Smith line that I got off of Family Search". I can put more information on where I got it in something like the Research Notes. I use my research databases as CLUES as to what might be the information. When I have verified the information for a person or family from sources, I usually use Spit-Screen to drag the person into my main database (after making sure I have "Cleaned" the person places, etc to fit the standards I use to input information.) Again - I'm only moving a person or maybe a family. Therefore, I don't have "garbage" cluttering my database, yet I have the information readily available. And I don't have to type in everything either. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, wrote: > Tom, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other > day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually > right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure > how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since > I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way > through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter > 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or > delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit > of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's > research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the > proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that > verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy > DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? > > > > Sherry > > >
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Take a look at Mark Lang's book at the Legacy Store. I've not used it so I cannot give a review. I do know Mark has been a Legacy user for years. http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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One thing I didn't mention if you use my method here - always make sure that you are looking at the database you think you are in Legacy! You want to make changes in the file you think you are making changes. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Heather Stovold wrote: > What I do, is I download the information into a DIFFERENT Legacy > database I include something like Research, or something like that in > the name. So probably something like "Research Smith FS" (a Research > database on the Smith line that I got off of Family Search". I can put more > information on where I got it in something like the Research Notes. > I use my research databases as CLUES as to what might be the information. > When I have verified the information for a person or family from sources, I > usually use Spit-Screen to drag the person into my main database (after > making sure I have "Cleaned" the person places, etc to fit the standards I > use to input information.) Again - I'm only moving a person or maybe a > family. > > Therefore, I don't have "garbage" cluttering my database, yet I have the > information readily available. And I don't have to type in everything > either. >
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Ron, I am getting so many good suggestions and I really appreciate it. I have been looking at the input screens and lamenting over how many fields there were to fill in!! I looked at the Options>Customize and GOODNESS! There are a million of these it seems. I can see it is going to take some time just to play around and see what things look like as I change various things. Legacy sure seems like a very complex program and yet simple to use. I suppose it can do almost anything (except my laundry while I'm busy with genealogy.) Thanks. Sherry - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:02:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry, Welcome aboard! My first piece of advice would be to have a play; someone suggested entering a small number of relatives. Whilst this is good practice for entering and sourcing data etc., you may not wish to change this once entered, in which case play with the Sample file - that's what it is for. When entering data remember that just because a field is there you don't need to put anything in it if you don't want. In any event have a look at the Sample file to see what the set up is like. Go to Options>Customise and learn the settings, again by playing with them, I'm afraid that there are a lot. The Help files are *always* the most up to date and the Help button on a screen relates only to that screen (same as f1 in most programs). Back-up regularly when involved in a long session. If you do not have a backup Icon on the top-bar then right click on the bar and drag it onto the main bar (and any others you fancy!). Always back-up when finishing - if no changes have been made you will not be invited to. Maintaining your back-ups means you can play to your hearts content without worrying about losing your stuff. Regard the RINs and MRINs as just numbers and not related to the status, or order of preference, of any individual. I see that you are thinking of creating web pages, I have omitted "simple" as who knows how it will grow - have a look at my "simple" one :-). Which, by the way, contains some tutorials which may interest you, the fergys.co.uk one (below). If thinking of using the Pedigree web pages, in Customise>Options set Legacy not to re-use empty RINs as those pages use them as the file names. Only use alpha-numeric characters plus hyphen and underscores in file and folder names, and it is better to settle on how you are going to use the case from day one eg. ronferguson.jpg or RonFerguson.jpg etc. Incidentally, Legacy does not like "JPEG", so always use "JPG" instead. Remember that whilst Windows is case insensitive most web servers are not. I think I'd better leave it there else you may feel that it's a bit complicated - always feel free to ask here! Good luck Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:48:20 + > From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it > for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have > only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point > when he wrote: > > > > > >> > I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want > to use Legacy for are: > > > > > > 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch > > > 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their > spouses and children > > > 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my > ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small > family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. > > > > > > I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and > they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. > However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed > out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online > information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been
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Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I found a family tree on Ancestry the other day with a few thousand names, but I have no way of knowing what is actually right or sourced, etc. Some of it sounds right. So, do I download (not sure how yet) everything into Legacy and then start trying to find sources? Since I don't do well with "clutter" in my life, I'm not sure how to pick my way through the stacks of names. But, I don't want to have to manually enter 5000 names either. And how do I fix something, like a relationship, or delete names that are completely wrong? And. Sorry, I am in a little bit of a panic. Deep breath. I know that I can benefit from someone else's research as a starting point for my own, so I don't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel. Would taking one name on the tree and finding sources that verify their relationship to me and then entering that name into my Legacy DB be too cumbersome? Or is there a better way? Sherry - Original Message - From: "TomK" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:08:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry, You asked: "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? " I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, < daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net > wrote: Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Hi Kirsten, Your thoughts reminded me that I can sometimes (most times) want to do something perfectly. I can do my homework and later if I need a redo, that's ok. And, most importantly, I am going to have fun. Thanks. Sherry from Washington (thanks for the suggestion, Rich) - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Bowman" To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:22:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Sherry: Welcome to the group! You're wise to give some thought to the end product that you'd like to achieve. As others have suggested, entering a few names and previewing the results is definitely a good way to start. But I would caution that you not be overly concerned about having things perfect straight out of the gate. No matter how hard you try, you're bound to find eventually that you wish you'd done something a little differently. Fortunately with Legacy many changes are relatively easy to make. I wouldn't want to discourage you, but some of us have documented family for years and then decided to make significant changes for one reason or another. A fair portion of the learning process is time and experience, so dig in and have fun with it. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Thanks Jenny. I have been reading and looking at websites that have "classes" on genealogy in general. I'm trying to find some books about Legacy 7, but I've not been too successful there. Any ones you could recommend? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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No harm, no foul. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Arnold Sprague To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:26:00 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Richard et al., I do not believe that any of us ought to be in the business of telling other *Legacy users* what to call themselves. Especially when the person, in this case, is "Just Starting Out." Besides, Sherry and Brian, of Legacy, identify themselves as Support in their From lines. Yes, that was my idea. Far better to ask Sherry and Brian than to ask a newbie. Just my two-bits. Please no flames from anyone. Arnold At 06:33 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: > As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might > be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) > about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - > Original Message From: Jenny M Benson To: > LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 > 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote > My name is > Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that > Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, > the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and > read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. > -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Paula, Your suggestions were really helpful. I can enter just my family and play around with that until I like what I see. That sounds like a plan! Thanks. Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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It's Brian the Support Tech... he's not a programmer. The programmers are Dave, Ken and Luc. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Actually I believe we have Brian the Programmer and two Brians the User. Brian (User #1 or am I User #2?) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, You asked: "When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? " I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > > > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it > for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I > have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good > point when he wrote: > > > > starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the > database can be database, if there are to be multiple output formats. > > I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want > to use Legacy for are: > > > > 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch > > 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their > spouses and children > > 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my > ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small > family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. > > > > I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times > and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter > data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron > pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I > find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been > submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then > go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't > know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some > guidance about how to go about this? > > > > Sherry > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Actually I believe we have Brian the Programmer and two Brians the User. Brian (User #1 or am I User #2?) -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote >My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, Welcome aboard! My first piece of advice would be to have a play; someone suggested entering a small number of relatives. Whilst this is good practice for entering and sourcing data etc., you may not wish to change this once entered, in which case play with the Sample file - that's what it is for. When entering data remember that just because a field is there you don't need to put anything in it if you don't want. In any event have a look at the Sample file to see what the set up is like. Go to Options>Customise and learn the settings, again by playing with them, I'm afraid that there are a lot. The Help files are *always* the most up to date and the Help button on a screen relates only to that screen (same as f1 in most programs). Back-up regularly when involved in a long session. If you do not have a backup Icon on the top-bar then right click on the bar and drag it onto the main bar (and any others you fancy!). Always back-up when finishing - if no changes have been made you will not be invited to. Maintaining your back-ups means you can play to your hearts content without worrying about losing your stuff. Regard the RINs and MRINs as just numbers and not related to the status, or order of preference, of any individual. I see that you are thinking of creating web pages, I have omitted "simple" as who knows how it will grow - have a look at my "simple" one :-). Which, by the way, contains some tutorials which may interest you, the fergys.co.uk one (below). If thinking of using the Pedigree web pages, in Customise>Options set Legacy not to re-use empty RINs as those pages use them as the file names. Only use alpha-numeric characters plus hyphen and underscores in file and folder names, and it is better to settle on how you are going to use the case from day one eg. ronferguson.jpg or RonFerguson.jpg etc. Incidentally, Legacy does not like "JPEG", so always use "JPG" instead. Remember that whilst Windows is case insensitive most web servers are not. I think I'd better leave it there else you may feel that it's a bit complicated - always feel free to ask here! Good luck Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:48:20 + > From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it > for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have > only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point > when he wrote: > > > > > >> > I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want > to use Legacy for are: > > > > > > 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch > > > 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their > spouses and children > > > 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my > ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small > family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. > > > > > > I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and > they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. > However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed > out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online > information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted > how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about > trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough > about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about > how to go about this? > > > > > > Sherry > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Richard et al., I do not believe that any of us ought to be in the business of telling other *Legacy users* what to call themselves. Especially when the person, in this case, is "Just Starting Out." Besides, Sherry and Brian, of Legacy, identify themselves as Support in their From lines. Yes, that was my idea. Far better to ask Sherry and Brian than to ask a newbie. Just my two-bits. Please no flames from anyone. Arnold At 06:33 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry: Welcome to the group! You're wise to give some thought to the end product that you'd like to achieve. As others have suggested, entering a few names and previewing the results is definitely a good way to start. But I would caution that you not be overly concerned about having things perfect straight out of the gate. No matter how hard you try, you're bound to find eventually that you wish you'd done something a little differently. Fortunately with Legacy many changes are relatively easy to make. I wouldn't want to discourage you, but some of us have documented family for years and then decided to make significant changes for one reason or another. A fair portion of the learning process is time and experience, so dig in and have fun with it. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, Besides going slow per Jenny's suggestion, I like someone else's earlier suggestion: enter a few individuals, maybe just one family. Look at how their data displays and how it reports in various reports. See what you like and what you don't like. Tweak their data, test again. Once you get something you feel good about, start adding more generations. When you first add a new "event" or something, pause and see how it looks in your reports. Tweak if necessary. Proceed. Well, at least that's what *I* would've done differently! ;) Also, someone recently posted a good suggestion in "merging vs. importing"... at least I think that was the thread. If you receive a file (download, etc.), import it separately, clean it up and then merge it with your main family file. Best of luck!!! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote > My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a "not that Brian, the other one", now we have the matching pair with a "not that Sherry, the other one". My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Just add 5-10 family members, open a few reports using preview. Then start collecting the documents that prove you exist, and enter that.Then re-do what you want to change. It is a never ending process. As someone said decades ago, when you think you are done with someone, that relative had 2 parents, etc. Rich in LA CA From: "daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net" To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:48:20 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
