Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-15 Thread Mark Wilson
Gene,

I respectfully disagree.  I also run MojoPac Usher v1.8.0.0 [Beta].  MojoPac
does require
administrative privileges, however, the software does provide a way to log
on as a "guest
with administrative privileges."  Try this: While MojoPac is running in host
mode (not MojoPac
mode), look in the system tray on the taskbar and look for the MojoPac
icon.  Now click on
it and select "Open MojoPac Usher Configuration Panel."  Now select the
"Host Security
Level" tab.  You will see that there is a description which reads "MojoPac
Usher allows
guest MojoPac to login with administrative privileges."  I won't go into
detail as how to use
this option.

While you still have the "MojoPac Usher Configuration Panel" open, click on
the "Help"
button.  The MojoPac Usher help window will open.  Select the "Contents" tab
and then
highlight "Installing MojoPac Usher" in the left panel.  You can read about
MojoPac
installation in the right panel.

MojoPac installs in the "C:\Program Files\RingThree" folder as a default.
MojoPac runs
on the host computer as a service.  That is why it doesn't show up in the
control panel's
"Add / Remove" window.  If you will look on a computer that you have run
MojoPac on,
check in the Start / All Programs (Win XP) and look for a MojoPac entry.
When you
find it, you will notice that it has a selection to "Remove MojoPac Usher"
from the host
computer.  [It is obvious (?) that a program has to be installed before it
can be uninstalled.]
The service executable, "pvmservice.exe," is installed in the "C:\Program
Files\RingThree\bin\"
folder.  (This is the default installation folder.)

If you know how to use regedit, you will discover that MojoPac does leave a
trace on
the host computer.  There is an entry in:
1) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\
MenuOrder\StartMenu2\MojoPac
2) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\
MountPoints2\{8879b79e-84ae-11dc-b1e5-0026540e022e}
3) HKEY_USERS\(Individual User ID varies)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu2\Programs\MojoPac
4) HKEY_USERS\(Individual User ID varies)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\

CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\{8879b79e-84ae-11dc-b1e5-0026540e022e}
5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\RingThree
6) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 (this varies by
user)\Services\pvm
7) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 (this varies by
user)\Services\PVM Service
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\pvm
9) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PVM Service


Please, folks, there has been enough discussion about USB flash drives!  I
have
over 30 years of programming experience so I do know a little about
software.  I
also am CompTIA A+ certified, CompTIA Network+ certified, and Microsoft MCSE
certified.  I am now retired and program at my leisure.  I don't mean to
give a
resume here, however, enough is enough!


Respectfully,
Mark

_
Gene Young wrote:




Mark Wilson wrote:


Legacy *does* run very slowly via MojoPac, however, it also requires
installation of the MojoPac software on the host computer.  This, too, would
not work on a host computer where installation of software is not permitted.



No, MoJoPac does not have to be installed on the host computer.  It runs
entirely from the flash drive.  I know this to be true as I have done it.
It requires nothing loaded on the host computer and leaves NO traces on the
host computer when disconnected.  As has been pointed out the host computer
must be running with an administrator account but I have not encountered a
problem in this respect as most people never set up limited accounts on
their computers and only run as administrator.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-15 Thread Gene Young

Gary Templeman wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive



Mark Wilson wrote:


Legacy *does* run very slowly via MojoPac, however, it also requires 
installation of the MojoPac software on the host computer.  This, 
too, would not work on a host computer where installation of software 
is not permitted.


No, MoJoPac does not have to be installed on the host computer.  It 
runs entirely from the flash drive.  I know this to be true as I have 
done it. It requires nothing loaded on the host computer and leaves NO 
traces on the host computer when disconnected.  As has been pointed 
out the host computer must be running with an administrator account 
but I have not encountered a problem in this respect as most people 
never set up limited accounts on their computers and only run as 
administrator.


--
Gene Y.


But it may become a problem as more people migrate to Vista, since it 
has a default to more restrictive permissions. Have you tried it on a 
Vista computer?


Gary Templeman


I won't own a Vista Computer.  I don't know if MoJoPac has been updated to 
Vista.

--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-15 Thread Gary Templeman


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive



Mark Wilson wrote:


Legacy *does* run very slowly via MojoPac, however, it also requires 
installation of the MojoPac software on the host computer.  This, too, 
would not work on a host computer where installation of software is not 
permitted.


No, MoJoPac does not have to be installed on the host computer.  It runs 
entirely from the flash drive.  I know this to be true as I have done it. 
It requires nothing loaded on the host computer and leaves NO traces on 
the host computer when disconnected.  As has been pointed out the host 
computer must be running with an administrator account but I have not 
encountered a problem in this respect as most people never set up limited 
accounts on their computers and only run as administrator.


--
Gene Y.


But it may become a problem as more people migrate to Vista, since it has a 
default to more restrictive permissions. Have you tried it on a Vista 
computer?


Gary Templeman 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-15 Thread Gene Young

Mark Wilson wrote:


Legacy *does* run very slowly via MojoPac, however, it also requires 
installation of the MojoPac software on the host computer.  This, too, 
would not work on a host computer where installation of software is not 
permitted.


No, MoJoPac does not have to be installed on the host computer.  It runs entirely from the flash 
drive.  I know this to be true as I have done it.  It requires nothing loaded on the host computer 
and leaves NO traces on the host computer when disconnected.  As has been pointed out the host 
computer must be running with an administrator account but I have not encountered a problem in this 
respect as most people never set up limited accounts on their computers and only run as administrator.


--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with
Legacy Family Tree
http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
Roger,

I appreciate your posting.  I did neglect to mention that U3 software
was NOT necessary to have on a flash drive.  I was merely pointing
out that *IF* U3 software is used, then it MUST be installed on the
host computer.  U3 is not the only encryption software that is used
on flash drives, however, that is what was pre-installed on the flash
drive that I purchased.  This is typical of the Sandisk brand of flash
drive.  That is the reason that I even mentioned the brand name of
the flash drive in the first place.  The reason that I use U3 software
is that I have other sensitive data on my flash drive that needs
protection. Everyone's need varies  I *assumed* that everyone
(or at least the majority) of LUG subscribers would understand this.
My blunder

My original intent was to suggest to all that it WAS possible to
easily take your Legacy database with you to use on another
computer via a flash drive.  I really did not imagine that anyone
would require technical support from my posting.  I was just
relaying a tried-and-true method that works for me.  You are
under no obligation to use it.

Please refer to my posting to Glen Ballard.


My best to you,
Mark
_
Roger Lewis wrote:

  Your choice of terminology has led to some confusion.

>From what you describe, it appears you have not 'run' Legacy from a flash
drive.  Data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera files do not 'run'.
Legacy.exe 'runs',  permitting you to access data etc residing on a flash
drive (or a floppy or a CD or a DVD or a mini hard drive etc)

Further, I think I can safely say that,  of all the people in the LUG who
simply access data residing on a flash drive, you are the only one who has
found it necessary to have U3 software installed on the flash drive.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
Glen,

No problem at all  I've *often* missed detail in a posting only to find
that my first impression was incorrect.  Probably the greatest problem
with email is that it does not reflect the true tone of the sender.  Just
the use of of a single word, neglect of a single word, or punctuation in
an email can cause mis-interpretation.  In your defense, I probably
should have used the word "with" instead  of "from" in the first sentence.

"I have successfully run Legacy WITH a U3 Sandisk Cruiser..." works
MUCH better than "I have successfully run Legacy FROM a U3 Sandisk
Cruiser"

P.S. to all,
Please consider this thread as dead


My best to you,
Mark





__

GBallard wrote:

Mark,

My appologies.  I read that, but later when replying, didn't notice it.  You
are quite correct in your statements.

Glen Ballard



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Glen,

Please re-read my original email.

"Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive."



Mark,

This exact situation comes up on this list from time to time.  You cannot
copy the Legacy folder and expect it to run on a computer that has not had

Legacy installed on it.  There are files that are installed to folders other
than the Legacy folder.

Please try running Legacy from your Flash drive on a computer that has never
had Legacy installed and see if that works.  Please report back to the list.

I would be interested in your findings.

Glen Ballard



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your
flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy
program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your
flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my computer.

That way both databases are current.


Mark




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Roger Lewis
Your choice of terminology has led to some confusion.

>From what you describe, it appears you have not 'run' Legacy from a flash 
>drive.  Data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera files do not 'run'.  
>Legacy.exe 'runs',  permitting you to access data etc residing on a flash 
>drive (or a floppy or a CD or a DVD or a mini hard drive etc)

Further, I think I can safely say that,  of all the people in the LUG who 
simply access data residing on a flash drive, you are the only one who has 
found it necessary to have U3 software installed on the flash drive.


- Original Message - 
  From: Mark Wilson 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




  I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.  
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your 
flash drive.

  On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy 
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the 
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy 
program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive to 
open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are using 
with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your flash drive 
so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)  

  When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy 
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my computer.  
That way both databases are current.


  Mark






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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread GBallard
Mark,

My appologies.  I read that, but later when replying, didn't notice it.  You
are quite correct in your statements.

Glen Ballard



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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Glen,

Please re-read my original email.

"Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive."



Mark,

This exact situation comes up on this list from time to time.  You cannot
copy the Legacy folder and expect it to run on a computer that has not had

Legacy installed on it.  There are files that are installed to folders other
than the Legacy folder.  

Please try running Legacy from your Flash drive on a computer that has never
had Legacy installed and see if that works.  Please report back to the list.

I would be interested in your findings.

Glen Ballard



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your

flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy

program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your

flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)  

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my computer.

That way both databases are current.


Mark





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Roberta Wunder
Will not work on U3 either, I have tried it.

-Original Message-
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A U3 flash drive. I don't no the size you will need.
-Tim




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
LUG group,

There seems to be some mis-interpretation of my original posting.  Please
let me try again with
the addendum in caps:

I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your
flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.

OPEN LEGACY FROM THE HOST COMPUTER (NOT THE USB FLASH DRIVE) and browse to
the location of your database on the flash drive to open it.  (Note that
Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are using with your flash drive.
You can copy the Legacy setup file to your flash drive so that you can install
Legacy on other computers.)

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my
computer.  That way both databases are current.


I have been using this method for over a year using various computers.
Using this method is NOT
the same as using portable software on a USB flash drive, however, it does
provide a means of taking
your genealogy database to another computer to work on.


Sorry for the confusion.

Mark






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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your

flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy

program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your

flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my
computer.  That way both databases are current.


Mark




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
Glen,

Please re-read my original email.

"Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive."


Mark,

This exact situation comes up on this list from time to time.  You cannot
copy the Legacy folder and expect it to run on a computer that has not had
Legacy installed on it.  There are files that are installed to folders other
than the Legacy folder.

Please try running Legacy from your Flash drive on a computer that has never
had Legacy installed and see if that works.  Please report back to the list.
I would be interested in your findings.

Glen Ballard



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your
flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy
program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your
flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my computer.
That way both databases are current.


Mark




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
Legacy *does* run very slowly via MojoPac, however, it also requires
installation of the MojoPac software on the host computer.  This, too, would
not work on a host computer where installation of software is not permitted.


Mark

===
JLB wrote:

Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy running
on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  Unless you'd be trying to use it where you
can't have administrator rights (public libraries, hotels, etc) it might
work.
-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread GBallard
Mark,

This exact situation comes up on this list from time to time.  You cannot
copy the Legacy folder and expect it to run on a computer that has not had
Legacy installed on it.  There are files that are installed to folders other
than the Legacy folder.  

Please try running Legacy from your Flash drive on a computer that has never
had Legacy installed and see if that works.  Please report back to the list.
I would be interested in your findings.

Glen Ballard



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive




I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your
flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy
program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your
flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)  

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my computer.
That way both databases are current.


Mark

==

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Garnet Quigley

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a 

USB Flash Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the 
programme and my current data files?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread JLB
I think we know you can have a backup of your Legacy files on *any* 
flash-drive.  This is not the same thing as *running* Legacy on a 
flash-drive which I believe was the original question.

--
JL
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Mark Wilson wrote:



I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash 
drive.  The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you 
can access your flash drive.


On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your 
Legacy files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your 
computer to the newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From 
within the Legacy program, you can browse to the location of your 
database on the flash drive to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be 
installed on the computer you are using with your flash drive.  You 
can copy the Legacy setup file to your flash drive so that you can 
install Legacy on other computers.) 

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy 
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my 
computer.  That way both databases are current.



Mark

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a 

USB Flash Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the 
programme and my current data files?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Wilson
I have successfully run Legacy from a U3 Sandisk Cruiser 4GB flash drive.
The U3 software MUST be installed on a computer so that you can access your
flash drive.

On your flash drive, create a folder named Legacy. Copy all of your Legacy
files (data, pictures, sounds, video, et cetera) from your computer to the
newly-created Legacy folder on the flash drive.  From within the Legacy
program, you can browse to the location of your database on the flash drive
to open it.  (Note that Legacy MUST be installed on the computer you are
using with your flash drive.  You can copy the Legacy setup file to your
flash drive so that you can install Legacy on other computers.)

When I get home, I then use other 3-party software to sync the Legacy
database on the flash drive with the primary Legacy database on my
computer.  That way both databases are current.


Mark

==

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Of Garnet Quigley
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a
USB Flash Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the
programme and my current data files?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Garnet Quigley
Thanks Jim for the MojoPac Usher reference,  I had just found it myself 
on their website, and gather from your personal experience that it is a 
genuine requirement  if you don't have admin rights on the host computer. 

I think I can understand and I do respect the reasons for the Usher 
requirement from the perspective that you should always get permission 
before using any one else's computer. But it does seem a bit 
counterintuitive that asking a public library or genealogy centre for 
such permission would be based on Legacy operating exclusively on your 
Flash Drive; but that first they must allow you to install the Usher 
software on their computer.


Thanks to JLB and Gene for pointing me in the direction of a solution 
that will  work as long as I can get my daughter to let me log on as her 
(with admin rights) and not simply as the Guest account.  She will 
probably find that more acceptable than having me install MojoPac 
Usher.  She guards her computer carefully because she doesn't want 
anyone changing/adding to her configuration.
Tim's alternative suggestion of U3 is interesting even if it doesn't 
currently support Legacy.  Maybe sometime in the future the Legacy 
developers might consider repackaging Legacy for this type of platform.  
Or, maybe not.


And finally Brenda's suggestion would be the easiest if only my kids 
shared my passion for genealogy.  But regretfully despite my best 
efforts I have so far been unable to generate any enthusiasm.  I call it 
generating enthusiasm but at their age they refer it to as nagging or 
boring them until they can get me to change the topic :o)   What you did 
with your parents is a wonderful idea on so many levels.  At my end it 
would be easier to get the ancestors involved than getting the 
descendants interested.


Thank you all for your responses.

Garnet







Jim Smith wrote:
MojoPac (paid version) works well, though a little slow to open. I haven't 
tried the free version; it was not available when I bought.


The following quoted from the MojoPac web site:

"Note: MojoPac requires the host PC be logged in with administrative 
privileges or have MojoPac Usher installed. MojoPac Usher is an application 
that can be installed on host computers to enable MojoPac to run with a 
limited mode host login."


www.mojopac.com



Jim Smith





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From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


JLB wrote:
  

Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy
running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.



That would be me.  There is a free version (MoJopac Free) that works just 
fine, although a little

slow.


Unless you'd be trying to use
  

it where you can't have administrator rights (public libraries, hotels,
etc) it might work.
--




As long as the USB port is not locked out it should work on any XP computer. 
The program and

operating system run entirely on the USB drive.

  





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Brenda Halseth
As a side note, may libraries equipment will not work with the U3 as they 
have software they want to down load onto the host computer.  Our State 
Library website tells users not to bring a U3 jump drive to use in the 
library.


Brenda
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:51 PM
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U3 is not at all the same thing as Mojopac and will not run Legacy.
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Tim Rosenlof wrote:

Look for U3 drive



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy
running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  Unless you'd be
trying to use
it where you can't have administrator rights (public
libraries, hotels,
etc) it might work.
--
JL
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Garnet Quigley wrote:


Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from


a USB Flash


Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the


programme and


my current data files?The objective is not storage or


backup, but


portability without having to install the programme on my


daughter's


computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when


the visit is


over.
I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where


I have my


Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the deluxe
version I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a


second D


drive and it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems.
Admittedly my purposes may have been more limited at the time than
what others might require i.e. basic open, read, write and


save data


files, I could get by with this same limited functionality


when I am


on the road.

And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry
modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the
show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there
being a portable version of Legacy?
I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread DLevenick
I know there is a simple way to do this on a PC, but can't remember how to
find out the speed of the USB port on my laptop. Help, please.

Tx, denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread JLB

U3 is not at all the same thing as Mojopac and will not run Legacy.
--
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Tim Rosenlof wrote:

Look for U3 drive

  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy 
running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  Unless you'd be 
trying to use 
it where you can't have administrator rights (public 
libraries, hotels, 
etc) it might work.

--
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists 
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Garnet Quigley wrote:

Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from 
  

a USB Flash

Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the 
  
programme and 

my current data files?The objective is not storage or 
  
backup, but 

portability without having to install the programme on my 
  
daughter's 

computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when 
  
the visit is 


over.
I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where 
  
I have my 

Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the deluxe 
version I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a 
  
second D 

drive and it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems. 
Admittedly my purposes may have been more limited at the time than 
what others might require i.e. basic open, read, write and 
  
save data 

files, I could get by with this same limited functionality 
  
when I am 


on the road.

And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry
modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the 
show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there 
being a portable version of Legacy?

I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Look for U3 drive

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:36 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive
> 
> 
> Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy 
> running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  Unless you'd be 
> trying to use 
> it where you can't have administrator rights (public 
> libraries, hotels, 
> etc) it might work.
> --
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists 
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
> 
> Garnet Quigley wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from 
> a USB Flash
> > Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the 
> programme and 
> > my current data files?The objective is not storage or 
> backup, but 
> > portability without having to install the programme on my 
> daughter's 
> > computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when 
> the visit is 
> > over.
> > I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where 
> I have my 
> > Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the deluxe 
> > version I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a 
> second D 
> > drive and it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems. 
> > Admittedly my purposes may have been more limited at the time than 
> > what others might require i.e. basic open, read, write and 
> save data 
> > files, I could get by with this same limited functionality 
> when I am 
> > on the road.
> >
> > And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry
> > modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the 
> > show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there 
> > being a portable version of Legacy?
> > I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Brenda Halseth
My suggestion would be to install the free version on your daughters 
computer & leave it there.  You could then copy your file onto her computer 
& again leave it there, only also taking a copy of it back with you on the 
flash drive.  This would then serve as one form of backup for you and would 
also make it so your daughter / any grandchild you might have, can look at 
it in the future.  A great way to start conversations and have them open the 
file while you are talking on the phone together.  I have done this for my 
parents and have found that they are more & more looking up those questions 
that have of when so & so was born, ect.  Even reading my notes sections and 
then calling me to add further memories they have of people and such.


Brenda Halseth


- Original Message - 
From: "Garnet Quigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive



Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a USB Flash
Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the programme and
my current data files?The objective is not storage or backup, but
portability without having to install the programme on my daughter's
computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when the visit is
over.

I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where I have my
Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the deluxe version
I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a second D drive and
it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems. Admittedly my
purposes may have been more limited at the time than what others might
require i.e. basic open, read, write and save data files, I could get by
with this same limited functionality when I am on the road.

And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry
modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the
show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there
being a portable version of Legacy?

I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Tim Rosenlof
A U3 flash drive. I don't no the size you will need.
-Tim

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Garnet Quigley
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:20 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive
> 
> 
> Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a 
> USB Flash 
> Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the 
> programme and 
> my current data files?The objective is not storage or backup, but 
> portability without having to install the programme on my daughter's 
> computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when the 
> visit is 
> over. 
> 
> I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where I have my 
> Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the 
> deluxe version 
> I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a second D 
> drive and 
> it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems. Admittedly my 
> purposes may have been more limited at the time than what 
> others might 
> require i.e. basic open, read, write and save data files, I 
> could get by 
> with this same limited functionality when I am on the road.
> 
> And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry 
> modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the 
> show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there 
> being a portable version of Legacy? 
> 
> I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Smith
MojoPac (paid version) works well, though a little slow to open. I haven't 
tried the free version; it was not available when I bought.

The following quoted from the MojoPac web site:

"Note: MojoPac requires the host PC be logged in with administrative 
privileges or have MojoPac Usher installed. MojoPac Usher is an application 
that can be installed on host computers to enable MojoPac to run with a 
limited mode host login."

www.mojopac.com



Jim Smith





- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive


JLB wrote:
> Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy
> running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.

That would be me.  There is a free version (MoJopac Free) that works just 
fine, although a little
slow.


Unless you'd be trying to use
> it where you can't have administrator rights (public libraries, hotels,
> etc) it might work.
> -- 


As long as the USB port is not locked out it should work on any XP computer. 
The program and
operating system run entirely on the USB drive.

-- 
Gene Y.
n2kvs
Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-14 Thread Gene Young

JLB wrote:
Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy 
running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  


That would be me.  There is a free version (MoJopac Free) that works just fine, although a little 
slow.



Unless you'd be trying to use
it where you can't have administrator rights (public libraries, hotels, 
etc) it might work.

--



As long as the USB port is not locked out it should work on any XP computer.  The program and 
operating system run entirely on the USB drive.


--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 6.0 and a USB Flash Drive

2008-05-13 Thread JLB
Somebody, who may or may not be an LUG-er, told me they had Legacy 
running on Mojopac on a USB flash-drive.  Unless you'd be trying to use 
it where you can't have administrator rights (public libraries, hotels, 
etc) it might work.

--
JL
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Garnet Quigley wrote:
Does anyone know if it possible to operate Legacy 6.0 from a USB Flash 
Drive which does have the space (4gb) to accommodate the programme and 
my current data files?The objective is not storage or backup, but 
portability without having to install the programme on my daughter's 
computer to her great discomfort, and then remove it when the visit is 
over.
I know the C drive is where it should go and that is where I have my 
Legacy 6.0 Deluxe right now.  But before I purchased the deluxe 
version I had installed the free version of Legacy 6.0 on a second D 
drive and it worked for my purposes with no apparent problems. 
Admittedly my purposes may have been more limited at the time than 
what others might require i.e. basic open, read, write and save data 
files, I could get by with this same limited functionality when I am 
on the road.


And unlike my D drive installation I am concerned about registry 
modifications to a computer that is not mine.  Would this be the 
show-stopper preventing the use of a USB Flash Drive, without there 
being a portable version of Legacy?

I would be grateful for your input. Thanks in advance.





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