Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Jenny M Benson


ronald ferguson wrote
That is exactly how I do it, and have been for years, without any 
problems or regrets. I have no intention of changing, and I would 
suggest that if you are happy with the way it works for you, and the 
outputs you get in your reports etc. then carry on as you are.


I was talking about this to someone yesterday and it struck me that you 
might get some odd-looking sentences in Reports.  For example Jenny was 
born in 18 Devonshire Place ..., whereas one would normally say Jenny 
was born at 18 Devonshire Place ... but Jenny was born in Birkenhead 
...


Knowing how versatile Legacy is, it wouldn't surprise me to be told you 
can change the preposition, but I wouldn't want to change it for every 
location, eg not where I didn't know street address.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread ronald ferguson

Jenny,

Yes and Yes! But not something which I regard as being tremendously important. 
For the number of times I have the actual house/hospital etc where somebody was 
born it's easy enough to change.


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 ronald ferguson wrote
That is exactly how I do it, and have been for years, without any
problems or regrets. I have no intention of changing, and I would
suggest that if you are happy with the way it works for you, and the
outputs you get in your reports etc. then carry on as you are.

 I was talking about this to someone yesterday and it struck me that you
 might get some odd-looking sentences in Reports. For example Jenny was
 born in 18 Devonshire Place ..., whereas one would normally say Jenny
 was born at 18 Devonshire Place ... but Jenny was born in Birkenhead
 ...

 Knowing how versatile Legacy is, it wouldn't surprise me to be told you
 can change the preposition, but I wouldn't want to change it for every
 location, eg not where I didn't know street address.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Heather Stovold
Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.   It doesn't increase
your location list, and is shown correctly in the sentace created by
Legacy by default.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth Cunningham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But when I enter residence as an event, the place shows up in the Location
 list.  How else can I show a grandfather who moved every year and  had his
 first 4 children in 4 different towns if I don't use residence as an
 event?   Elizabeth C
  JLB wrote:




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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Mary Young
On 6/28/08, Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
  the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.
If you do that, it's my understanding you can only map to the town
itself, not the exact street address(es).  Or am I wrong??
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Heather Stovold
Probably - I haven't really tried the mapping yet.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Mary Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/28/08, Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
  the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.
 If you do that, it's my understanding you can only map to the town
 itself, not the exact street address(es).  Or am I wrong??
 Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Penny
I think you are correct, Mary.  The place field = location list and if you want 
to 
distinguish between specific places in a city (or county, for that matter, when 
you don't 
have a city involved) by putting a pin in each of them, then you have to have a 
way to 
distinguish between them in the location list.

There are probably better ways to accomplish this, but I've been putting 
locations in like 
Seagraves - Cemetery, Gaines County, Texas and Seagraves - Walter Perry 
homestead, 
Gaines County, Texas.  It requires a little work to manipulate the pins to the 
exact 
places I want them to be, but so far, it's been worth it to me to do it.  It's 
actually 
sort of fun to be able tweak the map pins.

I've also found some things I didn't know existed until I had to fool around 
with 
researching things that VE couldn't automatically find.  I had no idea there 
was a Calfee 
Road in Montgomery County where my Calfee kin lived  died until I had to 
search out where 
the cemetery pin needed to go.  (I'll be darned!  How about that?! grin)

Penny


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On 6/28/08, Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Put the street address in the description of the residence event, and
  the city/town, county, etc in the Place field.
If you do that, it's my understanding you can only map to the town
itself, not the exact street address(es).  Or am I wrong??
Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-28 Thread Mary Young
I have 170 Glasgow addresses in my Master Locations List and intend to
map them all!  Should be fun and maybe revealing too.
Mary
On 6/28/08, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you are correct, Mary.  The place field = location list and if you 
 want to
  distinguish between specific places in a city (or county, for that matter, 
 when you don't
  have a city involved) by putting a pin in each of them, then you have to 
 have a way to
  distinguish between them in the location list.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread ronald ferguson

Elizabeth,

I have never run a Location Report and, like you, I include information in the 
location field which could include the parish, cemetery, road etc. and in the 
Location List have them read from right to left, so that each is easily found 
and compared. There have never been any problems and it works better with the 
VE mapping and, in my view, reads better in reports.

Yes, I do have a long list of locations and also must have a 100+ for each of 
Eccles and St Helens, Lancashire, but so what? If the length of the list was 
limited then we could have a problem but realistically it isn't.


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 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:23:50 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of
 it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street
 addresses. Is this a high or low number of pages for this report? My
 ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular crowd
 mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's. The group that has been
 here longer all lived out in the country.

 Elizabeth C

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location
 Report?

 - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia
 (15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address
 in before the city, county, state and country. I'll bet anyone with
 relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery
 name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia
 Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)

 Elizabeth C

 --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon  wrote:
 From: Art Seddon 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Depends on how many individuals you have in the DB. In
one parish of mine in Norway I have 4418 individuals
in at least one of the 37 farms in the parish. In any
case it doesn't 
Rich in LA CA
--- Elizabeth Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I had never actually run a Location Report, so I
 did, all 66 pages of 
 it.  There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that
 are street 
 addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages
 for this report?  My 
 ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this
 particular crowd 
 mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The
 group that has been 
 here longer all lived out in the country.
 
   Elizabeth C
 
 Thomas Herson wrote:
  So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia
 in your Location 
  Report?
 
  - Original Message - From: Elizabeth
 Cunningham 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 
 
  I must have at least 60 different street
 addresses for Philadelphia 
  (15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put
 the street address 
  in before the city, county, state and country. 
 I'll bet anyone with 
  relatives in big cities has the same problem. And
 I add the cemetery 
  name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine,
 the Philadelphia 
  Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)
 
  Elizabeth C
 
  --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
  Hi Jane,
 
  I have any number of location entries with 5 or
 more
  fields, such as:
  Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los
 Angeles,
  California, USA
   

 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
I have never gotten straight what the address fields were for.  I had 
understood they were for keeping track of members who are alive and to 
be mailed to.  What is the difference between location and address?


  Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location 
fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for 
Philadelphia.  The street addresses are intended to be put in the 
address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on 
this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as 
they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of 
it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  
My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular 
crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that 
has been here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C







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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread Bill



--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:27 PM
 Ruth's reply to me must have gotten filtered out.
 
 But my answer to her would be different
 strokes. I participate in this
 hobby for my own enjoyment, and am not concerned one way or
 the other
 about future generations trying to use my
 research.
 
 -- 
 
 Dennis

Dennis

My sentiments exactly. No one in my family has any interest in genealogy, so 
all my work will probably be lost. 

Bill


  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
I would hope you would consider sharing, at some later date, your research with 
Ancestry or Rootsweb or your local library genealogical research dept. and or 
your county Genealogical Society. Also please consider printing and leaving a 
copy or two for your family. Sometimes young family members don't become 
interested in their family history until they're older and have more time to 
reflect.

While I agree about doing it for your own pleasure and interest, after the 
hundreds of hours of time and money invested in your hobby, it would be a shame 
for your work to be lost to future researchers. I have benefited so much from 
older generations who have added a bit here and there, the earlier data 
encouraged me to continue adding to the family history.

I gather, source and format my research to my liking but I am going to share my 
results, on the off chance it might benefit someone down the road.

Mary


  From: Bill 

  Dennis

  My sentiments exactly. No one in my family has any interest in genealogy, so 
all my work will probably be lost. 

  Bill


  --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Dennis M. Kowallek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:27 PM
   Ruth's reply to me must have gotten filtered out.
   
   But my answer to her would be different
   strokes. I participate in this
   hobby for my own enjoyment, and am not concerned one way or
   the other
   about future generations trying to use my
   research.
   
   Dennis





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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread JLB

There are 3 different Master Address lists.  Mailing, Event and Repository.
JL
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Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
I have never gotten straight what the address fields were for.  I had 
understood they were for keeping track of members who are alive and to 
be mailed to.  What is the difference between location and address?


  Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location 
fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for 
Philadelphia.  The street addresses are intended to be put in the 
address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on 
this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as 
they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages 
of it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  
My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular 
crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that 
has been here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C







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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread M. Brenzel
That is correct, Thomas.  It does increase the number of locations that the
program needs to keep track of.  But it is a relational database and being
of such design, it can keep track of them quite nicely.  And... you can
attach them to as many events, facts or people that you need to.  I use the
same approach that Ron uses and by putting the address in the location
field, I don't have to click on the '+' every time I want to put the
specific address that someone lived at during the 1910 census or the name of
the church in which my grandparents were married back in 1914.

Mary
 
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Tom,

There is absolutely nothing which says that this *has* to be the case. This
limitation is only suggested because American Geo-locations use that format.
Legacy is international.

I put the full address in the Location Field and only use the Address Fields
for current names and addresses etc.


Ron Ferguson

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:59:03 -0400

 The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
 county, state, country.

 The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
 location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.

 Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
 greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep
track
 of.

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 To: LegacyUserGroup 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
 the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

 Jeff

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon  wrote:

 From: Art Seddon 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
But when I enter residence as an event, the place shows up in the 
Location list.  How else can I show a grandfather who moved every year 
and  had his first 4 children in 4 different towns if I don't use 
residence as an event? 
  
 Elizabeth C
  
JLB wrote:
There are 3 different Master Address lists.  Mailing, Event and 
Repository.

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
I have never gotten straight what the address fields were for.  I had 
understood they were for keeping track of members who are alive and 
to be mailed to.  What is the difference between location and address?


  Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location 
fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for 
Philadelphia.  The street addresses are intended to be put in the 
address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on 
this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as 
they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages 
of it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  
My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular 
crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that 
has been here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C







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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread ronald ferguson

Elizabeth,

That is exactly how I do it, and have been for years, without any problems or 
regrets. I have no intention of changing, and I would suggest that if you are 
happy with the way it works for you, and the outputs you get in your reports 
etc. then carry on as you are.

At the end of the day there is no right nor wrong way there are ways that suit 
some and ways that suit others but it is *always your decision*. 


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 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:21:03 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 But when I enter residence as an event, the place shows up in the
 Location list. How else can I show a grandfather who moved every year
 and had his first 4 children in 4 different towns if I don't use
 residence as an event?

 Elizabeth C

 JLB wrote:
 There are 3 different Master Address lists. Mailing, Event and
 Repository.
 JL
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

 Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
 I have never gotten straight what the address fields were for. I had
 understood they were for keeping track of members who are alive and
 to be mailed to. What is the difference between location and address?

 Elizabeth C

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location
 fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for
 Philadelphia. The street addresses are intended to be put in the
 address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on
 this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as
 they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)

 - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

 I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages
 of it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street
 addresses. Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?
 My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular
 crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's. The group that
 has been here longer all lived out in the country.

 Elizabeth C


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread Wynthner
True, except in the case of planning to publish your work in one of the 
professional journals. 
If that is the case, it then behooves one to determine the formats said journal 
requires before hand and enter data accordingly rather than have to re-do 
everything later.


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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:51:03 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


Elizabeth,

That is exactly how I do it, and have been for years, without any problems or 
regrets. I have no intention of changing, and I would suggest that if you are 
happy with the way it works for you, and the outputs you get in your reports 
etc. then carry on as you are.

At the end of the day there is no right nor wrong way there are ways that suit 
some and ways that suit others but it is *always your decision*. 


Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:21:03 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 But when I enter residence as an event, the place shows up in the
 Location list. How else can I show a grandfather who moved every year
 and had his first 4 children in 4 different towns if I don't use
 residence as an event?

 Elizabeth C

 JLB wrote:
 There are 3 different Master Address lists. Mailing, Event and
 Repository.
 JL
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

 Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
 I have never gotten straight what the address fields were for. I had
 understood they were for keeping track of members who are alive and
 to be mailed to. What is the difference between location and address?

 Elizabeth C

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location
 fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for
 Philadelphia. The street addresses are intended to be put in the
 address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on
 this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as
 they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)

 - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

 I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages
 of it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street
 addresses. Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?
 My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular
 crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's. The group that
 has been here longer all lived out in the country.

 Elizabeth C


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Jenny M Benson


John S. Adams wrote
I don't usually bother with street addresses, but for Birth, Marriage, 
Death, Baptism, Burial, I also enter the name of the 
hospital, cemetery, church, etc. in the address field accessed by the 
+ sign.  The only problem I have with it is that when you include the 
address on a report, it shows up following the event as Address:  
Riverside Cemetery.  The Address: lead-in annoys me, but I'll live 
with it.


It doesn't appear that way on all reports - only the boxed ones like 
Individual.  On the others you just get the address in brackets and if 
you enter the address with privacy brackets round the location parts 
you don't get repetition.


I'm quite happy with that.  It's like saying to someone I was born in 
Birkenhead - 18 Devonshire Place to be precise.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Bill
I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California. 
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus USA


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 From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,
 
 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA



  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Thomas Herson
I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I don't 
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific 
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The program provides 
for these things. Why not make use of them?


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus USA


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to understand. 
Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.


Are you saying that in the individual information screen's field for in 
(as in buried in) you enter Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
Angeles, California?


I thought that Legacy recommends entering Chatsworth, Los Angeles, 
California in that field and then entering Oakwood Memorial Cemetery in 
the filed burial address in the screen that opens up when you click on 
+.


I personally prefer your method which I do use even though it does add many 
cemetery and similar non-town names to the master location list. I find the 
burial address screen somewhat redundent or overkill.


Jeff

Bill wrote:

I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus
USA


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:53:03 -0400, Thomas Herson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country

... because I know that in my database, if a country isn't specified,
that it is a U.S. location.

 and I don't 
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific 
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).

... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.

 The program provides 
for these things. Why not make use of them?

Just because a feature is there doesn't mean you have to use it.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Thomas Herson
The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village, 
county, state, country.


The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a 
location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.


Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma) 
greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track 
of.


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To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Bill



--- On Thu, 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
 I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to
 understand. 
 Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.
 
 Are you saying that in the individual information
 screen's field for in 
 (as in buried in) you enter Oakwood
 Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
 Angeles, California?
 

Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the individual info screen, and 
this is a trade off from going into the burial address screen. This will give 
me a few more locations in the master location list, and this has not caused 
any problems with reports so far as I know.

Bill


  



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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread ronald ferguson

Ruth,

but they will know if one puts it in the location field


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500

 and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).

... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.

 But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
 when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't
 know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.

 Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Ruth Nerud

and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).



... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.


But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come, 
when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't 
know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread G Oliver
For cemetery/burial addresses I use the address (+) fields. That way I can
have a complete address with zip code along with GPS coordinates in the 2nd
address field. If I have a headstone picture I create a cemetery event/fact
and move the information to the event address fields (+).
If you do not use an event/fact the headstone picture will not print on
reports. Also the GPS coordinates will not print unless you add them to an
address. It is also easy to list those people located in that cemetery.

Just the way I do it.

GCO

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
 the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

 Jeff


 Thomas Herson wrote:

 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA








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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread music-line
Hi Everyone,

We had a similar discussion to this a few weeks back so it just might be
worth looking it up - especially but not exclusively for the U.K. users.  It
was called How do people record addresses in an 'event' and is about 8
pages back in the archive.  I now write all my addresses in the location
field, in full.  It means that it's possible to use the mapping feature more
accurately and when you go to the family view or the Individual's
Information Events/Facts list, you can see the exact location at a glance in
the Desc/Place/Notes column without having to open each event up and go to
the address list.  I now reserve the address list for  current/ up-to-date
addresses of people I might possibly want to write to or contact.  Whether
it is an 'event location' or a 'Born, Chr, Died, Buried etc' location I
still record addresses in the same consistent way.  I think everyone will
have their own slightly different system but it might be worth taking a look
at the archived posts mentioned above.

Best wishes

David

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www.brewoodsingers.co.uk
Organist  Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey
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What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:
 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

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 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
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 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, I feel the same way.

Bill wrote:

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to
understand.
Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.

Are you saying that in the individual information
screen's field for in
(as in buried in) you enter Oakwood
Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los
Angeles, California?



Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the individual info
screen, and this is a trade off from going into the burial address
screen. This will give me a few more locations in the master location
list, and this has not caused any problems with reports so far as I
know.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
Ruth's reply to me must have gotten filtered out.

But my answer to her would be different strokes. I participate in this
hobby for my own enjoyment, and am not concerned one way or the other
about future generations trying to use my research.

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Ruth,

but they will know if one puts it in the location field


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 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500

 and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).

... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.

 But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
 when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't
 know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.

 Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia (15 
of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address in 
before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C



--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
  


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Thomas Herson

So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location Report?

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia (15 
of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address in 
before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C



--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
  


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread myrna20
Everyone has their own way of doing this and here is mine:

Pushmataha - Reheboth Baptist Cemetery, Choctaw County, Alabama, 
USA

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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread ronald ferguson

Tom,

There is absolutely nothing which says that this *has* to be the case. This 
limitation is only suggested because American Geo-locations use that format. 
Legacy is international.

I put the full address in the Location Field and only use the Address Fields 
for current names and addresses etc.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:59:03 -0400

 The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
 county, state, country.

 The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
 location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.

 Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
 greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track
 of.

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: LegacyUserGroup 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
 the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

 Jeff

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon  wrote:

 From: Art Seddon 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Thomas Herson
They will also know if the cemetery name and address is put in the address 
fields where they belong :)


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Ruth,

but they will know if one puts it in the location field


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500


and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).



... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.


But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they 
won't
know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than 
less.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Art Seddon
It's easier for the program to keep track of addresses than locations?

Art Seddon

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
county, state, country.

The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.

Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track
of.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
 the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

 Jeff

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA







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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of 
it.  There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  My 
ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular crowd 
mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that has been 
here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia 
(15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address 
in before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C
   

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
 
  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Bill
--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:54 AM
 --- On Thu, 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
  I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I
 try to
  understand. 
  Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.
  
  Are you saying that in the individual information
  screen's field for in 
  (as in buried in) you enter Oakwood
  Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
  Angeles, California?
  

Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the
individual info screen, and this is a trade off from going
into the burial address screen. This will give me a few
more locations in the master location list, but this is not a problem. This 
saves a lot of key strokes and time. by leaving off the comma between cemetery 
and ciy it keeps the city, county, state consistent.

 I really haven't entered any new names for a long time and I entered all the 
burial addresses and GPS locations as was suggested a long time ago, so I 
really have the place of burial entered twice. Now I don't have to go looking 
for it.

As far as entering the country is concerned, if they were born in the USA I 
leave it off. If it is out of the USA I entered the country. 

It works for me!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
I meant to add that in the 66 page location report I have 210 listings 
with just Philadelphia.  If all my Philadelphia listings had no street 
addresses, the whole database would be unmanageable.


  Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia 
(15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address 
in before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C





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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Thomas Herson
The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location fields. You 
have 146 locations where one should suffice for Philadelphia.  The street 
addresses are intended to be put in the address fields, not the location 
fields. But, since most people on this list pay no attention whatsoever to 
the instructions and do as they please, there's no harm in your doing what 
you please :)


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of it. 
There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street addresses.  Is 
this a high or low number of pages for this report?  My ancestors seem to 
have moved around a bit, and this particular crowd mostly only arrived in 
the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that has been here longer all lived out 
in the country.


 Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


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I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia (15 
of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address in 
before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA





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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-26 Thread JLB
This may not interest you, and I can't think of a reason for it myself, 
but one of the perks for putting your addresses in the address fields is 
that you can print labels with them.  This includes events and 
repository addresses as well as contact addresses for living people.

JL
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Thomas Herson wrote:


The number of pages is high for the intended use of the location 
fields. You have 146 locations where one should suffice for 
Philadelphia.  The street addresses are intended to be put in the 
address fields, not the location fields. But, since most people on 
this list pay no attention whatsoever to the instructions and do as 
they please, there's no harm in your doing what you please :)


- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Cunningham 
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:23 PM
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I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of 
it. There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  
My ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular 
crowd mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that 
has been here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


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I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia 
(15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street 
address in before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet 
anyone with relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add 
the cemetery name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the 
Philadelphia Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA





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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread ronald ferguson

Jane,

A number of us, particularly non-Americans, put it in the Location field and 
ignore the 4 location details (which don't work for us anyhow). BTW I have just 
realised you do not mention the country which is also important - and 
preferably do not use abbreviations as they mean different thins in different 
countries.

If you are American you may find it better to use the Address Screen. At the 
end of the Burial field (or any of the vital Records) you will see a + click 
on this for the address screen.

I am not entirely clear about about your second paragraph, but I suspect that 
you are trying to remove the detail and then save. As you have found, this 
cannot be done. Go to the Individual's Information Screen, highlight the Event, 
and use OptionsDelete


Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:56:49 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

 I watched the tour of the standard program, but did not see answers to
 these questions:

 I saw on the tour that one should keep the place statements down to
 town, county, state. What option allows one to put in the name of a
 cemetery, or of a church? I can't locate a screen that allows me to do
 that.

 Secondly, I tried to add the burial as an event, then realized that was
 not appropriate. However, when I tried to clear the information, it
 wouldn't let me save the cleared screen without naming it. I wanted to
 do away with it altogether, but could not find a way.

 I hope these questions are clear. I am trying hard to learn the program
 and will, no doubt have myriad questions yet to come.

 Jane Sarles


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread MICHELLE CROSBY
Jane,
Since I am still a newbie  and do to the fact that I still have a lot to 
learn, you have picked the right place for help.
Welcome.
The things that I did starting out were the following:
1. create a separate folder in your email to save all future to do's, 
comments about the program. I don't know how many times I have 
thought to myself,  I know I have read something about this in the LUG 
mailings.
2. Check out the archives- it's a great place to review topics that have been 
discussed.
and 
3. purchase the PDF of the manual its great doesn't take up a lot of room and 
really cheap- I didn't think I would like the PDF style but I love it-I even 
purchased Evidence Explained PDF and have reviewed it for source's a lot of 
times- 
hope this helps,

Shelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread Elsie Saar

Jane, we all had to learn these:

For cemeteries and churches, I use the + sign after the burial and 
baptism fields that leads to the address list and enter it there. 
Don't know if this is how most people do it. For marriages I have to 
make an event called Marriage location and then put the church, etc, 
in the description field and the town, county, etc in the Place field. 
I do that for census info also. Ex:  Residence, 1930, (desc:) at 253 
Railroad Avenue in the town of (place:) High Falls, Ulster Co., New 
York, USA.


To clear an event, in the Individual's Information dialog box, go to 
Options/Delete Event.


Elsie

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I watched the tour of the standard program, but did not see answers 
to these questions:


I saw on the tour that one should keep the place statements down to 
town, county, state.  What option allows one to put in the name of a 
cemetery, or of a church?  I can't locate a  screen that allows me 
to do that.


Secondly, I tried to add the burial as an event, then realized that 
was not appropriate.  However, when I tried to clear the 
information, it wouldn't let me save the cleared screen without 
naming it.  I wanted to do away with it altogether, but could not 
find a way.


I hope these questions are clear.  I am trying hard to learn the 
program and will, no doubt have myriad questions yet to come.


Jane Sarles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread JLB
Next to the field for burial, for instance, there's a + sign.  If you 
click on that, there's an option for burial address.


To delete an Event, click on Options next to where you enter Events and 
click Delete Event.

JL
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Jane Sarles wrote:


I watched the tour of the standard program, but did not see answers to 
these questions:


I saw on the tour that one should keep the place statements down to 
town, county, state.  What option allows one to put in the name of a 
cemetery, or of a church?  I can't locate a  screen that allows me to 
do that.


Secondly, I tried to add the burial as an event, then realized that 
was not appropriate.  However, when I tried to clear the information, 
it wouldn't let me save the cleared screen without naming it.  I 
wanted to do away with it altogether, but could not find a way.


I hope these questions are clear.  I am trying hard to learn the 
program and will, no doubt have myriad questions yet to come.


Jane Sarles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread John S. Adams
I don't usually bother with street addresses, but for Birth, Marriage, Death, 
Baptism, Burial, I also enter the name of the hospital, cemetery, church, etc. 
in the address field accessed by the + sign.  The only problem I have with it 
is that when you include the address on a report, it shows up following the 
event as Address:  Riverside Cemetery.  The Address: lead-in annoys me, but 
I'll live with it.

Elsie, you don't have to enter a marriage location event to record the 
marriage address.  From the marriage screen, click on the house icon at the 
top and a screen will open where you can enter marriage address info.  Don't 
know why this couldn't be somehow standardized with the Birth and Death address 
methods.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
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From: Elsie Saar 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



For cemeteries and churches, I use the + sign after the burial and 
baptism fields that leads to the address list and enter it there. 
Don't know if this is how most people do it. For marriages I have to 
make an event called Marriage location and then put the church, etc, 
in the description field and the town, county, etc in the Place field. 
I do that for census info also. Ex:  Residence, 1930, (desc:) at 253 
Railroad Avenue in the town of (place:) High Falls, Ulster Co., New 
York, USA..






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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
It isn't there directly. There is the reccomended way
which is to use the attached address page, but I don't
use it yet, so have not dealt with it, I am still
using my old method, which is to include a cemetery as
the 'town', and in my location notes for the cemetery
include the address and town that it is in or near.
The nice thing is that either method can be
'corrected' to what you will want next.
Rich in LA CA
--- Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I watched the tour of the standard program, but did
 not see answers to 
 these questions:
 
 I saw on the tour that one should keep the place
 statements down to 
 town, county, state.  What option allows one to put
 in the name of a 
 cemetery, or of a church?  I can't locate a  screen
 that allows me to do 
 that.
 
 Secondly, I tried to add the burial as an event,
 then realized that was 
 not appropriate.  However, when I tried to clear the
 information, it 
 wouldn't let me save the cleared screen without
 naming it.  I wanted to 
 do away with it altogether, but could not find a
 way.
 
 I hope these questions are clear.  I am trying hard
 to learn the program 
 and will, no doubt have myriad questions yet to
 come.
 
 Jane Sarles
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-25 Thread Art Seddon
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA

I've also found that http://lat-long.com/ is very good for finding Latitude 
and Longitude for locations such as above and then open the location for 
edit, copy and paste the numbers into the appropriate places and save. 
Virtual Earth goes right to it.

http://lat-long.com/ only works for the U.S. but there are others that work 
elsewhere.

But the point is, you are not limited to 4 fields.

Art Seddon

 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:56:49 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

 I watched the tour of the standard program, but did not see answers to
 these questions:

 I saw on the tour that one should keep the place statements down to
 town, county, state. What option allows one to put in the name of a
 cemetery, or of a church? I can't locate a screen that allows me to do
 that.

 Secondly, I tried to add the burial as an event, then realized that was
 not appropriate. However, when I tried to clear the information, it
 wouldn't let me save the cleared screen without naming it. I wanted to
 do away with it altogether, but could not find a way.

 I hope these questions are clear. I am trying hard to learn the program
 and will, no doubt have myriad questions yet to come.

 Jane Sarles






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