Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Fry

Dave Naylor wrote:

On 30 Sep 2009  Mike Fry wrote:


Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message
that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?


*Every* message has to be read when it's a digest.  When they're 
separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, 
which ones to read.  Furthermore, some messages can be automatically 
routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, 
format or writer   ;-))


Another disadvantage with Digest messages. People don't know how to 
reply to them. So they quote the whole message in their reply and forget 
to change the Subject.


Also, a lot of email software doesn't 'know' how to properly handle a 
Message Digest i.e. how to navigate through it, message by message. Good 
software would keep track of which 'bit' of the digest you were replying 
to and set up the reply accordingly (Subject and quoted matter).


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Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread Jenny M Benson

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote
Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context 
menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you 
get a dialog which looks like...


  http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg


You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and 
clicked Print Multimedia List.


Big thanks to Bill for pointing out this feature which I had not 
discovered before and which I know is going to be very useful.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:07:46 +0100, Jenny M Benson
ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and 
clicked Print Multimedia List.

I don't get it in V7/100 standard. It's either a deluxe feature or
something they fixed since build 100.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread William H. Boswell
That's a good point about digest messages being hard to respond to, and 
sometimes they respond to the entire digest with all of the messages.  Scratch 
that idea.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Dave Naylor wrote:
 On 30 Sep 2009  Mike Fry wrote:
 
 Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message
 that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?
 
 *Every* message has to be read when it's a digest.  When they're 
 separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, 
 which ones to read.  Furthermore, some messages can be automatically 
 routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, 
 format or writer   ;-))

Another disadvantage with Digest messages. People don't know how to 
reply to them. So they quote the whole message in their reply and forget 
to change the Subject.

Also, a lot of email software doesn't 'know' how to properly handle a 
Message Digest i.e. how to navigate through it, message by message. Good 
software would keep track of which 'bit' of the digest you were replying 
to and set up the reply accordingly (Subject and quoted matter).

-- 
Best regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread William H. Boswell
No, Dennis gets all the credit.  I didn't know about it myself until he told
me.

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Dennis M. Kowallek wrote
Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context
menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you
get a dialog which looks like...

   http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg

You get that screen in V7, once you've made your initial selections and
clicked Print Multimedia List.

Big thanks to Bill for pointing out this feature which I had not
discovered before and which I know is going to be very useful.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-10-01 Thread Wendy Howard

 And I get one per day that I can scan (the subject lines
 of the posts listed at the top of the digest), instead of
 dozens of emails on some days that I have to delete
 as with the LUG list.

I see little difference between scanning a list of subject lines in a 
digest email, and scanning a list of emails in a folder devoted to one 
mailing list.  Much the same action.


With the individual posts, though, you can delete those that don't 
interest you - or you've read and no longer need - and keep the ones 
that you want to file away for future reference, or respond to later.  
With a digest, you have to then wade through all the posts again to find 
that/those you wanted to refer to again.


If you have your list mail diverted to its own folder then you can still 
easily delete blocks of individual posts that don't interest you without 
opening them, nor without having to hit the delete key for each one.  
Highlighting in the mail box works much the same as in other areas - 
click on the top one, hold down the Shift key and use your Down Arrow 
key to mark the desired (or otherwise) emails.  The Ctrl key is useful, 
too, for when you want to mark odd emails instead of all in a block.  
Then delete with one press of the Delete key.  This probably won't work 
in web-based services, but it should in email programs installed on your 
computer (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc).


An advantage of receiving individual posts, over the digest where it is 
available, is timeliness.  The digest is produced periodically, often 
once a day.  Individual posts are sent out as they happen.  So if you're 
looking for something to read, they're there waiting for you.  Using a 
rule or filter in your mailbox to separate out the list posts to their 
own folder keeps them away from your other mail, so you can ignore the 
list until you are ready to look at it.


I have written instructions for setting a rule or filter on a variety of 
email programs and services that I've come in contact with, and put them 
on my web site - see 
http://wendy.howard.googlepages.com/How-to.htm#RuleFilter  The page is a 
bit dated now, but the basics won't have changed much in newer 
versions.  *Almost* all email programs and services have filters or 
rules and the ability to divert mail to a folder or mark it in some way 
to distinguish it from other mail.


With proper management and good understanding, individual posts will 
always be a superior service than a digest.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
I did another import from FTM into TMG then an export to a GEDCOM that
includes the paths to all images.  I had to correct a lot of the paths in
TMG to get it to work.  Now when I bring in that GEDCOM it relinks most of
the images.  I only want to use that file to figure out which images go with
what person.

Is there a way print a report (PDF) that shows everyone in the file and at
least the path/file name of the images associated with each person?  I
couldn't find anything in Legacy Reports that would do this.  It only seems
to do it by one family.  Otherwise I'll just have to keep TMG open which is
okay, but I'd prefer to have a PDF report instead.  Legacy creates better
reports than FTM or TMG.

Bill

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


I haven't sent too many but hope it works. These are (obviously) Swedish
church records. Using the Events, I can see that I have copies of each
document I need, and can print full page copies on a different report when
wanted.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:40:59 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Rich:

I just want them linked to the data file for future reference.  I don't
think I want to print all the source images for census and similar records
except for maybe direct lines.  I was eventually going to put all the images
and reports on a disc to give to family members so they would have access to
the images as well.

It sounds like your way of doing it is better.  I would like to see an
example if not too much trouble and when you have the time.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Example: If you have a Source of 1900 IL, Cook, Chicago, and ten different
pages with members of your family on each, then attaching all ten to the
source, only one photo will be showing, or if attaching to each detail (by
using events) then all ten photos will print. I put mine in events instead,
since that gives me room for personal notes. There are many choices, you
need to decide what you want the reports to com out as. I can send an
example if you want.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do
it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Sherry/Support
Arnold,

Be nice – your post is just as much of a breech in the Etiquette Guidelines
as Rich’s post was with the attachment, notably:


Please only send messages in plain text format...

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Sprague
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Richard,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ATTACHMENT WAS 9.8MB
LOTTA FOLKS HERE ARE ON DIAL-UP.
Arnold

At 07:52 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:

I haven't sent too many but hope it works. These are (obviously) Swedish
church records. Using the Events, I can see that I have copies of each
document I need, and can print full page copies on a different report when
wanted. Rich in LA CA - Original Message  From: William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent:
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:40:59 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching
Source Citation Images to Events Rich: I just want them linked to the data
file for future reference.  I don't think I want to print all the source
images for census and similar records except for maybe direct lines.  I was
eventually going to put all the images and reports on a disc to give to
family members so they would have access to the images as well. It sounds
like your way of doing it is better.  I would like to see an example if not
too much trouble and when you have the time. Bill -Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [ mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:50 PM To:
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching
Source Citation Images to Events Example: If you have a Source of 1900 IL,
Cook, Chicago, and ten different pages with members of your family on each,
then attaching all ten to the source, only one photo will be showing, or if
attaching to each detail (by using events) then all ten photos will print. I
put mine in events instead, since that gives me room for personal notes.
There are many choices, you need to decide what you want the reports to com
out as. I can send an example if you want. Rich in LA CA - Original
Message  From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To:
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009
9:30:07 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to
Events On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm only interested in the source images.  All
the other images have been relinked in Legacy.  You can link source
images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do it because there
appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center seems the best
place since you can assign it to an event for that person. Images can be
assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You seem to be
confusing the two. In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source
or Source Detail in Picture Center. I'll have to see if I still have the
GEDCOM. I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.
Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there). -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Kris
That does it.  I'm outta here.  Not only did *this* gem arrive last
night, but there's another thread where, every time I click on a new
message, some stupid HTML background wallpaper shows up in my image
viewer.  

I have *no* clue why the folks at Legacy insist on using this joke of
a program to run their mailing list, but I'm not laughing anymore.  

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

 I haven't sent too many but hope it works. 

It did.  It shouldn't have, but it did.  Good grief.  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I actually was sending to one person and didn't notice he had sent under 
the LUG until I pressed send. I apologize to anyone bothered by this. 
Rich in LA CA




From: Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagobooth.edu
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Richard,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ATTACHMENT WAS 9.8MB
LOTTA FOLKS HERE ARE ON DIAL-UP.
Arnold



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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Just a side note here. I opened your PDF and saw nothing more than 2 pages
with a bunch of small images and said to myself No way this is 9 megs!.
So I loaded your file into Adobe Acrobat (full program, not just the Reader)
and examined the document.  The properties indicate that the PDF generator
was ComponentOne PDF generator which is the one utilized by Legacy. I don't
know if this is licensed technology or freeware but I'm continuing to
criticize Legacy for using such an old antiquated version. ComponentOne's
web site no longer even references any products for PDF development. In
fact, the PDF file created by Legacy will be an Acrobat version 3.x while
the latest incarnation from Adobe is version 9.x.

And then the worst thing: I took your 9 meg file and with one mouse click
selected Reduced File Size from within Acrobat. Your original 9 meg file
is now 160k. I've noticed similar results myself here and I'm not sure what
is going on internally but Acrobat also indicates that Legacy produced PFD
files have hidden deleted pages and images.

Brian in CA

---
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

I actually was sending to one person and didn't notice he had sent under 
the LUG until I pressed send. I apologize to anyone bothered by this. 
Rich in LA CA





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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Ron Bernier
This issue has been brought up innumerable times.  For reasons known
only to them, Millenia refuse to use software that will block
attachments and HTML.When they switched to a new server back some
months ago, I had hopes that they would finally address this ongoing
issue.  Instead, they just leave it to the staff to gently reprimand
anyone who violates the guidelines.  Those reprimands are usually
only after people complain about the violation.  Then of course, there
are those individuals who constantly (and intentionally) violate the
guidlines and belittle anyone who complains about it.  I honestly
believe the folks at Millenia don't want to offend anyone, so they
choose to ignore the risks associated with attachments and HTML email.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Kris gen.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 That does it.  I'm outta here.  Not only did *this* gem arrive last
 night, but there's another thread where, every time I click on a new
 message, some stupid HTML background wallpaper shows up in my image
 viewer.

 I have *no* clue why the folks at Legacy insist on using this joke of
 a program to run their mailing list, but I'm not laughing anymore.

 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

 I haven't sent too many but hope it works.

 It did.  It shouldn't have, but it did.  Good grief.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:45:55 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way print a report (PDF) that shows everyone in the file and at
least the path/file name of the images associated with each person?

There is no way to do this within Legacy that I know of. There may be
ways to do this using 3rd party tools outside of Legacy. Contact me
off-list for more info.
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:45:55 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way print a report (PDF) that shows everyone in the file and at
least the path/file name of the images associated with each person?

I just went back and looked at V6. They used to have, under
View|Scrapbook, a button for Print Picture List. It produced a report
that looked like...

Multimedia File Locations

-- Picture Filenames ---
C:\Legacy60\Pictures\sample - 1957 Oct 09 letter to Virginia Larsen from Mabel 
Hilton.jpg
  Picture: Death: Source Detail: Reverend William C. BROWN [74]
C:\Legacy60\Pictures\sample - 1957 Oct 09 letter to Virginia Larsen from Mabel 
Hilton.jpg
  Picture: Death: Source Detail: Clyde BROWN [1]
...

However, in my standard copy of V7 it doesn't print the same result. I
don't know if this is because I don't have the deluxe version, or
because the programmer's changed the report.

So if you wanted to, you could probably download V6 from Legacy's
website and load your GEDCOM into that. Then you could print a report of
all image files that Legacy knows about and what they are linked to.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means I
have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that I use
HTML for.  I feel like I'm moving back to DOS days.

I do wish they have Digest Mode because this list gets a lot of mail.

Bill

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Ron Bernier
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


This issue has been brought up innumerable times.  For reasons known
only to them, Millenia refuse to use software that will block
attachments and HTML.When they switched to a new server back some
months ago, I had hopes that they would finally address this ongoing
issue.  Instead, they just leave it to the staff to gently reprimand
anyone who violates the guidelines.  Those reprimands are usually
only after people complain about the violation.  Then of course, there
are those individuals who constantly (and intentionally) violate the
guidlines and belittle anyone who complains about it.  I honestly
believe the folks at Millenia don't want to offend anyone, so they
choose to ignore the risks associated with attachments and HTML email.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Kris gen.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 That does it.  I'm outta here.  Not only did *this* gem arrive last
 night, but there's another thread where, every time I click on a new
 message, some stupid HTML background wallpaper shows up in my image
 viewer.

 I have *no* clue why the folks at Legacy insist on using this joke of
 a program to run their mailing list, but I'm not laughing anymore.

 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:18 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

 I haven't sent too many but hope it works.

 It did.  It shouldn't have, but it did.  Good grief.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
Unfortunately, it gave me one blank page even though the progress bar was
counting many images.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Thanks.  It's in Legacy7 Deluxe version which I'm using.  The button is
called Print Multimedia List...  I was looking under Reports and didn't
find it because I thought it would be there.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
Thanks.  It's in Legacy7 Deluxe version which I'm using.  The button is
called Print Multimedia List...  I was looking under Reports and didn't
find it because I thought it would be there.

Bill

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Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:45:55 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way print a report (PDF) that shows everyone in the file and at
least the path/file name of the images associated with each person?

I just went back and looked at V6. They used to have, under
View|Scrapbook, a button for Print Picture List. It produced a report
that looked like...

Multimedia File Locations

-- Picture Filenames ---
C:\Legacy60\Pictures\sample - 1957 Oct 09 letter to Virginia Larsen from
Mabel Hilton.jpg
  Picture: Death: Source Detail: Reverend William C. BROWN [74]
C:\Legacy60\Pictures\sample - 1957 Oct 09 letter to Virginia Larsen from
Mabel Hilton.jpg
  Picture: Death: Source Detail: Clyde BROWN [1]
...

However, in my standard copy of V7 it doesn't print the same result. I
don't know if this is because I don't have the deluxe version, or
because the programmer's changed the report.

So if you wanted to, you could probably download V6 from Legacy's
website and load your GEDCOM into that. Then you could print a report of
all image files that Legacy knows about and what they are linked to.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Mike Fry

William H. Boswell wrote:


I do wish they have Digest Mode because this list gets a lot of mail.


Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message 
that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:58:28 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

Unfortunately, it gave me one blank page even though the progress bar was
counting many images.

-Original Message-
From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Thanks.  It's in Legacy7 Deluxe version which I'm using.  The button is
called Print Multimedia List...  I was looking under Reports and didn't
find it because I thought it would be there.

Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context
menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you
get a dialog which looks like...

http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg

So you might want to try V6. You can install both on your PC if you want
to. If you decide to install V6 side-by-side with V7, let me know and I
will post the instructions. Or you can get them from Sherry.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
Because when there many, you have to sift through them to find non-genealogy 
related emails.  I'm glad I don't subscribe to the TMG list anymore.  They get 
over 100 emails a day sometimes.

Bill

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Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote:

 I do wish they have Digest Mode because this list gets a lot of mail.

Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message 
that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Mike Fry

William H. Boswell wrote:

Unfortunately, it gave me one blank page even though the progress bar was
counting many images.



View-- Scrapbook-- (select which types of Multimedia to list)-- Print 
Multimedia List (select options)-- Preview


Gives more than a blank page on my version 7/109 system! 382 pages in 
fact. Suspect you didn't get things right when selecting which types of 
multimedia to list.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Dave Naylor
On 30 Sep 2009  Mike Fry wrote:

 Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message
 that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?

*Every* message has to be read when it's a digest.  When they're 
separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, 
which ones to read.  Furthermore, some messages can be automatically 
routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, 
format or writer   ;-))

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Jenny M Benson

William H. Boswell wrote
I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means 
I have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that 
I use HTML for.


I don't use Outlook myself, but I'm sure you'll find there's a setting 
for making all mails to a particular address (the LUG one in this case) 
Plain Text.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Sherry/Support
On the Etiquette Guidelines website (linked to at the bottom of every email
on the list - http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp) is  a link to
Rootsweb showing how to set numerous email programs to plain text.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
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Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!

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Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

William H. Boswell wrote
I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means 
I have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that 
I use HTML for.

I don't use Outlook myself, but I'm sure you'll find there's a setting 
for making all mails to a particular address (the LUG one in this case) 
Plain Text.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread CE Wood
Most email applications have the ability to create subfolders and have emails 
from a specific address sent directly to that subfolder.  That way they don't 
clutter up your main folder.  Someone on this list kindly imparted the steps to 
do this on MSN, which I use.  I forget now how I did it, but it has been 
wonderful!

CE


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William H. Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Because when there many, you have to sift through them to find non-genealogy 
related emails.  I'm glad I don't subscribe to the TMG list anymore.  They get 
over 100 emails a day sometimes.

Bill

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote:

 I do wish they have Digest Mode because this list gets a lot of mail.

Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
Is Version 6 still available?

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Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:58:28 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

Unfortunately, it gave me one blank page even though the progress bar was
counting many images.

-Original Message-
From: William H. Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Thanks.  It's in Legacy7 Deluxe version which I'm using.  The button is
called Print Multimedia List...  I was looking under Reports and didn't
find it because I thought it would be there.

Yes, I see that in V7, but when I click on it it brings up a context
menu with Print Preview, Print to Printer, and Print to File. In V6 you
get a dialog which looks like...

http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/PhotoListOptionsDlg.jpg

So you might want to try V6. You can install both on your PC if you want
to. If you decide to install V6 side-by-side with V7, let me know and I
will post the instructions. Or you can get them from Sherry.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
I'm using an old version of Outlook (2000) and never upgraded because the
current Microsoft offering stinks.  I was wondering if I could do that, but
probably not in this old version.

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Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote
I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means
I have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that
I use HTML for.

I don't use Outlook myself, but I'm sure you'll find there's a setting
for making all mails to a particular address (the LUG one in this case)
Plain Text.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread Dale Warehime

William:

In Outlook Express, select a name in your address book, then right click on 
the name, next right click on Properties, in the properties window,select 
the Name tab. In the lower left hand corner, place a check in Send E-mail 
using plain text only box. Now select OK and you are good to go.


Dale


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events



I'm using an old version of Outlook (2000) and never upgraded because the
current Microsoft offering stinks.  I was wondering if I could do that, 
but

probably not in this old version.

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Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote

I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means
I have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that
I use HTML for.


I don't use Outlook myself, but I'm sure you'll find there's a setting
for making all mails to a particular address (the LUG one in this case)
Plain Text.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-30 Thread William H. Boswell
Thanks.  It works in Outlook 2000 as well.  I never even paid any attention
to the checkbox below the email field.

Bill

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Behalf Of Dale Warehime
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William:

In Outlook Express, select a name in your address book, then right click on
the name, next right click on Properties, in the properties window,select
the Name tab. In the lower left hand corner, place a check in Send E-mail
using plain text only box. Now select OK and you are good to go.

Dale


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From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


 I'm using an old version of Outlook (2000) and never upgraded because the
 current Microsoft offering stinks.  I was wondering if I could do that,
 but
 probably not in this old version.

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:23 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


 William H. Boswell wrote
I didn't realize that we had to use Plain Text only.  Now that means
I have to keep changing back and forth with other non-list emails that
I use HTML for.

 I don't use Outlook myself, but I'm sure you'll find there's a setting
 for making all mails to a particular address (the LUG one in this case)
 Plain Text.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Jenny M Benson

William H. Boswell wrote
I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the 
image to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the 
Picture Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if 
the image was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the 
Pictures tab.  For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I 
hope this is making sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too 
many steps for something that should be fairly simple.


You did exactly what you said in your *first* sentence, not what you 
looked for in your second!


You attached the picture to the Birth Event *not* to the Source Citation 
for that Event.  You will notice that there is no mention of Sources in 
the Picture Centre.


If you go to the Source Citation screen for any Event you will be able 
to attach the picture there (or a sound, video or document file) and you 
can add a Caption, a Description and a File ID.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
I finally found the place where the File ID is located, but I didn't find my
test ID number in there.  I looked through the PDF manual, which is greatly
lacking in any clues, and it said that the Picture Center would be better
for attaching a lot of images.  I entered the ID number there and it seems
to be working.  The entire process will take too long.  I wish someone would
improve GEDCOM so it brings in your image locations.  Relinking is a
nightmare.

Since I have so many to do I really don't know if it's worth the trouble
especially for census records.  As I said, I have most of them transcribed
and they are partially renamed so they are easy to find.  Ancestry.com names
files with a long number so renaming them is a must.

Bill

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Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


The Picture Center lets you attach pictures to an Individual,
Marriage, and to Events (including Birth, Christening, Death, Burrial)
BUT I don't think it can be used to attach pictures to Sources.
Am I wrong?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:07 PM, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some of you may recall I recently converted over to Legacy from FTM2009.
 Within FTM I had a large number of images such as census, obits, PDFs,
text
 documents and others that are attached to source-citations for everyone in
 my file.  This looks like it's going to be more work than it's worth, but
am
 wondering if there is an easier way to do this.

 I just finished linking all people and grave photos without any problems.
 Before I dumped FTM I printed out a number of reports to show what image
 file goes with which person.   Is it better to do it in the Picture
Center?
 When I was setting up the people and grave photos, I assigned a File ID to
 each image which is the file name minus the extension.

 I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the
image
 to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the Picture
 Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if the image
 was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the Pictures tab.
 For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I hope this is making
 sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too many steps for
something
 that should be fairly simple.

 How can I add these images to sources without creating duplicates?  I
 noticed there is no place to apply the new File ID to a source.  What's
the
 point of assigning a File ID if you can't use it elsewhere?  I'm trying to
 limit duplicates and also not have to keep re-entering the same
information
 for each image.

 There has to be an easier way or should I just forget about doing this.
 Most, if not all, of the images were transcribed a long time ago but it
 would be nice to attach the images as well.  I know it'll take a long time
 especially since I have to keep switching back and forth between Legacy
and
 my cheat sheet PDF file generated from FTM.  This PDF is over 3,000
pages
 long so I really don't want to print it.  There are several thousand
source
 images as well.

 I do like this program better than FTM, but this seems to be a larger
 challenge than I expected.

 Thanks,
 Bill Boswell

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
So in other words it's not a good idea?

Isn't this something that people would like to have the ability to do, or is
it better to just leave the source images out?

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote
I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the
image to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the
Picture Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if
the image was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the
Pictures tab.  For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I
hope this is making sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too
many steps for something that should be fairly simple.

You did exactly what you said in your *first* sentence, not what you
looked for in your second!

You attached the picture to the Birth Event *not* to the Source Citation
for that Event.  You will notice that there is no mention of Sources in
the Picture Centre.

If you go to the Source Citation screen for any Event you will be able
to attach the picture there (or a sound, video or document file) and you
can add a Caption, a Description and a File ID.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:18:39 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I wish someone would
improve GEDCOM so it brings in your image locations.  Relinking is a
nightmare.

Did the FTM export contain any picture info? You can email me a copy of
the GEDCOM *privately* if you like.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.  I took FTM off my computer so
if I don't have the GEDCOM I'll have to reinstall it and export a new one.
I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.
It will just take years to complete it and I'm not sure it's worth it.  I
might just create a spreadsheet or database and put the file names and
information in there for future use.

This process would be difficult in any program so I'm not blaming Legacy.  I
blame the makers of FTM because they made the process impossible.  Don't
switch to FTM because once you get your information and images in there you
can't export them out.  You're stuck.  Their media reports are useless too
because they don't include any notes.

Bill

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Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:18:39 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I wish someone would
improve GEDCOM so it brings in your image locations.  Relinking is a
nightmare.

Did the FTM export contain any picture info? You can email me a copy of
the GEDCOM *privately* if you like.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Because Legacy does not add the photos to each person, but only the location of 
the file of the photo, you can add multiple copies of a picture to anywhere you 
see the icon. I add a family group shot of  40 + people, then add another 
version of the photo, cropping only each to a head shot. Then each person has 2 
photos, the group and the mug. 
You can include the census photo to the Source, and then add it also, to the 
family members on it, and/or the event. It is hard to read but makes it easy to 
view again.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:48:18 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

So in other words it's not a good idea?

Isn't this something that people would like to have the ability to do, or is
it better to just leave the source images out?

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote
I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the
image to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the
Picture Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if
the image was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the
Pictures tab.  For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I
hope this is making sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too
many steps for something that should be fairly simple.

You did exactly what you said in your *first* sentence, not what you
looked for in your second!

You attached the picture to the Birth Event *not* to the Source Citation
for that Event.  You will notice that there is no mention of Sources in
the Picture Centre.

If you go to the Source Citation screen for any Event you will be able
to attach the picture there (or a sound, video or document file) and you
can add a Caption, a Description and a File ID.
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
The Source is what's confusing me.  Would it be added to the Master Source
Picture or Source Detail Picture under Sources for each person?  Maybe my
definition of Source Citation isn't the correct one, but that's what they
call it in FTM 2009.

I guess it would go under Source and then link each family member to that
one image in the case of the census.  In FTM, the image is attached as a
source once and then can be connected to each individual that uses it as a
citation.

It took me about a year to clean it up in FTM and get rid of all the
duplicates.  I don't want to have to do it again if I end up doing this
wrong.  Also in FTM, you could show all of your external images at once,
select it and link it to each person's event.  I wish you could do something
like this in Legacy.

I know Legacy only uses links to external images which is what I've used for
years.  I just don't want duplicate links.  Legacy has much better utilities
than any other program I've used so maybe it can clean it up later.

Bill


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Because Legacy does not add the photos to each person, but only the location
of the file of the photo, you can add multiple copies of a picture to
anywhere you see the icon. I add a family group shot of  40 + people, then
add another version of the photo, cropping only each to a head shot. Then
each person has 2 photos, the group and the mug.
You can include the census photo to the Source, and then add it also, to the
family members on it, and/or the event. It is hard to read but makes it easy
to view again.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:48:18 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

So in other words it's not a good idea?

Isn't this something that people would like to have the ability to do, or is
it better to just leave the source images out?

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote
I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the
image to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the
Picture Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if
the image was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the
Pictures tab.  For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I
hope this is making sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too
many steps for something that should be fairly simple.

You did exactly what you said in your *first* sentence, not what you
looked for in your second!

You attached the picture to the Birth Event *not* to the Source Citation
for that Event.  You will notice that there is no mention of Sources in
the Picture Centre.

If you go to the Source Citation screen for any Event you will be able
to attach the picture there (or a sound, video or document file) and you
can add a Caption, a Description and a File ID.
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
I wouldn't want to have to redo everything.  I wish there was a way to just
import the link information just for the source images.  I am sending you a
new GEDCOM from FTM 2009 now.

Since The Master Genealogist reads native FTM 2009 files, I am importing a
new one now to see if it will generate a better source report.  FTM is
totally worthless and will not generate what I need.  TMG takes many hours
to import FTM files.

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Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do
it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Example: If you have a Source of 1900 IL, Cook, Chicago, and ten different 
pages with members of your family on each, then attaching all ten to the 
source, only one photo will be showing, or if attaching to each detail (by 
using events) then all ten photos will print. I put mine in events instead, 
since that gives me room for personal notes. There are many choices, you need 
to decide what you want the reports to com out as. I can send an example if you 
want.
Rich in LA CA



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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).

-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread William H. Boswell
Rich:

I just want them linked to the data file for future reference.  I don't
think I want to print all the source images for census and similar records
except for maybe direct lines.  I was eventually going to put all the images
and reports on a disc to give to family members so they would have access to
the images as well.

It sounds like your way of doing it is better.  I would like to see an
example if not too much trouble and when you have the time.

Bill

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Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


Example: If you have a Source of 1900 IL, Cook, Chicago, and ten different
pages with members of your family on each, then attaching all ten to the
source, only one photo will be showing, or if attaching to each detail (by
using events) then all ten photos will print. I put mine in events instead,
since that gives me room for personal notes. There are many choices, you
need to decide what you want the reports to com out as. I can send an
example if you want.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm only interested in the source images.  All the other images have been
relinked in Legacy.

You can link source images, but it's a little confusing as to where to do
it
because there appears to be several places to do it.  The Picture Center
seems the best place since you can assign it to an event for that person.

Images can be assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You
seem to be confusing the two.

In either case though, you cannot assign images to Source or Source
Detail in Picture Center.

I'll have to see if I still have the GEDCOM.

I was just curious if FTM exported anything regarding these images.
Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax them out of the GEDCOM.

Probably not an option though since you seem to have gone far beyond the
import stage and would not wish to start over with the old GEDCOM (if it
were available and the image info was there).

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Jenny M Benson

William H. Boswell wrote

So in other words it's not a good idea?


What, precisely, is not a good idea?


Isn't this something that people would like to have the ability to do,


Again, I have to ask what?


or is it better to just leave the source images out?


I would say definitely not.  I have pictures (or sometimes files) 
attached to numerous sources and I find it really helpful to have them 
there.  Any time I want to look at the image it is right there next to 
the Individual and the Event concerned and I don't have to go off 
looking elsewhere on the computer or in paper files.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Jenny M Benson

William H. Boswell wrote
The Source is what's confusing me.  Would it be added to the Master 
Source Picture or Source Detail Picture under Sources for each person? 
Maybe my definition of Source Citation isn't the correct one, but 
that's what they call it in FTM 2009.


Where you add the Picture rather depends on the nature of your Sources 
and how you will use them.


If you have a Master Source of, say, Birth Certificate you will have 
lots of different Source Details using that Master Source and you would 
attach an image of a Certificate to the Source Detail.  You might use 
one person's Certificate as a Source for one person once or several 
times or for several people and the Source Details will not change, but 
when you come to cite a different Birth Certificate you will have 
different Source Details.


However, if you chose to split your Master Sources and have one named 
John Smith's Birth Certificate and another named Joe Brown's Birth 
Certificate you can attach the image of the Certificate to the Master 
Source as it will be relevant to all citations of that Master Source.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Gene Young

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

I haven't sent too many but hope it works. These are (obviously) Swedish church 
records. Using the Events, I can see that I have copies of each document I 
need, and can print full page copies on a different report when wanted.
Rich in LA CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-29 Thread Arnold Sprague


Richard,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ATTACHMENT WAS 9.8MB
LOTTA FOLKS HERE ARE ON DIAL-UP.
Arnold
At 07:52 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:
I haven't sent too many but hope
it works. These are (obviously) Swedish church records. Using the Events,
I can see that I have copies of each document I need, and can print full
page copies on a different report when wanted. Rich in LA CA -
Original Message  From: William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:40:59 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]
Attaching Source Citation Images to Events Rich: I just want them linked
to the data file for future reference. I don't think I want to
print all the source images for census and similar records except for
maybe direct lines. I was eventually going to put all the images
and reports on a disc to give to family members so they would have access
to the images as well. It sounds like your way of doing it is
better. I would like to see an example if not too much trouble and
when you have the time. Bill -Original Message- From:
k...@legacyfamilytree.com
[
mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent:
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:50 PM To:
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching
Source Citation Images to Events Example: If you have a Source of 1900
IL, Cook, Chicago, and ten different pages with members of your family on
each, then attaching all ten to the source, only one photo will be
showing, or if attaching to each detail (by using events) then all ten
photos will print. I put mine in events instead, since that gives me room
for personal notes. There are many choices, you need to decide what you
want the reports to com out as. I can send an example if you want. Rich
in LA CA - Original Message  From: Dennis M. Kowallek
kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent:
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:30:07 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching
Source Citation Images to Events On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:02:38 -0400,
William H. Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm
only interested in the source images. All the other images have
been relinked in Legacy.  You can link source images, but
it's a little confusing as to where to do it because there appears to
be several places to do it. The Picture Center seems the best
place since you can assign it to an event for that person. Images can be
assigned to Sources *OR* Source Details (citations). You seem to be
confusing the two. In either case though, you cannot assign images to
Source or Source Detail in Picture Center. I'll have to see if I
still have the GEDCOM. I was just curious if FTM exported anything
regarding these images. Maybe with a little manipulation, we could coax
them out of the GEDCOM. Probably not an option though since you seem to
have gone far beyond the import stage and would not wish to start over
with the old GEDCOM (if it were available and the image info was there).
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

2009-09-28 Thread Bruce Jones
The Picture Center lets you attach pictures to an Individual,
Marriage, and to Events (including Birth, Christening, Death, Burrial)
BUT I don't think it can be used to attach pictures to Sources.
Am I wrong?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:07 PM, William H. Boswell
whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some of you may recall I recently converted over to Legacy from FTM2009.
 Within FTM I had a large number of images such as census, obits, PDFs, text
 documents and others that are attached to source-citations for everyone in
 my file.  This looks like it's going to be more work than it's worth, but am
 wondering if there is an easier way to do this.

 I just finished linking all people and grave photos without any problems.
 Before I dumped FTM I printed out a number of reports to show what image
 file goes with which person.   Is it better to do it in the Picture Center?
 When I was setting up the people and grave photos, I assigned a File ID to
 each image which is the file name minus the extension.

 I started to do this for the 1850 census then to test it attached the image
 to the birth event for this person.  I then closed out of the Picture
 Center, went to the person's source-citation (detail) to see if the image
 was attached under Sources, selected Birth then selected the Pictures tab.
 For Source Detail Picture there was nothing there.  I hope this is making
 sense because I'm finding it very confusing and too many steps for something
 that should be fairly simple.

 How can I add these images to sources without creating duplicates?  I
 noticed there is no place to apply the new File ID to a source.  What's the
 point of assigning a File ID if you can't use it elsewhere?  I'm trying to
 limit duplicates and also not have to keep re-entering the same information
 for each image.

 There has to be an easier way or should I just forget about doing this.
 Most, if not all, of the images were transcribed a long time ago but it
 would be nice to attach the images as well.  I know it'll take a long time
 especially since I have to keep switching back and forth between Legacy and
 my cheat sheet PDF file generated from FTM.  This PDF is over 3,000 pages
 long so I really don't want to print it.  There are several thousand source
 images as well.

 I do like this program better than FTM, but this seems to be a larger
 challenge than I expected.

 Thanks,
 Bill Boswell

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