Legacy Pictures/multimedia Storage: was Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Tony Rolfe
My C:\ drive is a comparatively small solid state disk.  I have two
other disks, D:\ and E:\

On the C:\ drive I have the OS, plus (among other stuff) C:\Legacy.
Into this, I put the absolute minimum I can get away with, but I do use
C:\Legacy\Backup for my database backups.  C:\Legacy does not contain
ANY of my data.

On my D:\ drive, I have a D:\Genealogy folder which contains all my
genealogy data.  I have a D:\Genealogy\Data folder which contains my
main database, plus anything else which comes under the generic "data"
heading - downloaded Gedcoms, other FDB files etc. - but does not
contain any images, videos or other multimedia.

I have replicated the Legacy multimedia structure under D:\Genealogy and
have added a folder D:\Genealogy\Marriages.  This contains all
multimedia files relating specifically to people, organised by MRIN, so
I have a lot of folders named

D:\Genealogy\Marriages\M Hisname and hername

M0123 Joe Robert Bloggs and Mary Anne Smith

Anything which doesn't belong to a specific person or couple or family
goes under the D:\Genealogy multimedia structure.

I can foresee no problems with this.  I cannot imagine ever having a
computer with just one disk but if I do, I'll simply move the
D:\Genealogy to C:\Genealogy and use LTools to rename the D: bit to C:

I did this once to separate all the MRIN folders out of Data\ to the,
then new, Marriages\ and it took LTools all of 10 seconds to change
Genealogy\Data to Genealogy\Marriages

If you have multiple hard drives, I recommend splitting your data away
from your programs.  Make sure that you back up your data onto a
different drive from the original.

I just hope that, one day, the developers will see fit to make Legacy
just like every other Windows program and stick it in Program Files
where it belongs - but I'm not holding my breath.

Cheers

Tony



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals

2012-05-28 Thread Mary Moyer
Terry

You're welcome! I just looked at the Legacy webinars, and it's still available 
to watch. It's called Further Your Research and Unify Your Family Reunion with 
Beautiful Genealogy Charts by Janet Hovorka and it was on May 11, 1011. She 
sounded as if she was willing to work with customers to do what they want to do.

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Legacy Pictures/multimedia Storage: was Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Marg Strong
I'm not sure I'm following this topic correctly. I have my legacy program on my 
primary drive, but all the rest including the database, the media files, the 
backups, tips, resources, etc., go into subdirectories under my Legacy folder 
on my larger working hard drive in my computer. The multimedia backups go into 
the same folder as the backups. Having these on a separate drive means that 
when I sync legacy with my backup drives I don't have to sync the primary drive 
since it is separate. And it keeps too many files from piling up onto my 
primary drive. 

Under my Legacy main directory, I also have a large directory/subdirectories 
with media files -- a few, but not many are attached to legacy at this point. 
Am I correct in thinking this is what is being discussed - the picture files?
When I attach a file to the picture gallery, for example, it will remain in the 
directory in which I originally put it. (These are divided into census records 
for each year, death records, birth records, photos, etc. The one problem that 
is happening is that the subdirectories are getting over filled with files 
(multiplying branches). I'm going to have to divide them further. Since I 
haven't gotten to the place where I've finished researching this line as far as 
possible in ancestry.com, I haven't attached many media files yet to legacy 
records. I don't multitask well, so am focusing on collecting the information 
which I will, hopefully soon, enter into my Legacy database. I'm hoping by the 
time I start adding the numerous multimedia files, I will have a more final 
version of the directory tree. Otherwise, there would be the necessity of 
repointing Legacy to new directories if I split files off into new 
subdirectories.


I really don't want more on my primary drive than the system and progam files 
so wouldn't want to use any of the primary drive folders, but am I going to run 
into future problems with the way I am doing it?  Does anyone have ideas that 
might be a better way of doing this while using a second drive?


Hope this makes sense. Thank you
Peggy



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[LegacyUG] AniMap

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
AniMap to the rescue again ! If you do any USA research, it is in my
opinion a must !

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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread CE WOOD

Agreed.  When I moved from XP to Windows 7, Legacy connected automatically even 
though the name of the folder where graphics were stored was different in 
Windows 7 from XP.
 CE > From: spa...@xmission.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:52:08 -0600
>
> On 5/27/2012 2:02 PM, Laird wrote:
> > Nichele,
> > I would like to discourage you making this change:
> > Someday you will have to buy a new computer.
>
> > It will NOT have a folder called
> > "My Documents" like you have with XP now.  The new computer will have a
> > different operating system, in the near future it will be "Windows 8".
>
> You know something we don't ? Why would Microsoft move away from the
> convection that has been there for many versions ? That would create
> havoc for a very large amount of users. My Mother (87), would have no
> clue how to change. She is one that has a hard time with just the basics.
> >At that
> > time you will have to do this process all over again.  That is one of the
> > reasons Legacy puts everything in C:\Legacy\.
>
> I don't have mine in the default location and it runs just fine. Even
> with the Sample.fdb file that has attached multimedia :-)
>
> Happy Hunting,
>
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA
> >
> > You will have to locate/find at least one photo from each 
> > folder\sub-folder\etc.
> > Laird
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
On 5/28/2012 11:39 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 28/05/2012 18:32, Tim Rosenlöf wrote:
>> On 5/28/2012 10:42 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
   If you have MS Access go to tblBP and do a search and replace: Find
   C:\Legacy\Docs\  Replace with C:\genealogy\.
   If you have ltools let us know and someone will write a query to do it
   in one step.
>> Ummm... Why not just copy your tree from wherever you have it and paste
>> it to C:\\Genealogy\Tree or where ever she wishes. No need for any
>> special software.*ALL*  my digitizes items go to C:\\Genealogy\Long and
>> deep tree.
> The instructions are not for moving files from one folder to another,
> they are for telling Legacy where the files have been moved to.

She did say she only had a few items attached (200), in \photos and
\documents. As Mike mentioned earlier, 'Options>Customize>Locations,
then change the locations for the folder each are in and it will tell
Legacy where to look.

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/05/28 18:23, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:

> Ron, I attempted to sort out what  "picture icons" may be and have
> only a guess as I can't find that feature in Legacy Help.  I did find
> a reference to "Preferred Picture" .

I think the usual term would be 'thumbnail' - a reduced image.

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Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
On 5/27/2012 2:02 PM, Laird wrote:
> Nichele,
> I would like to discourage you making this change:
> Someday you will have to buy a new computer.

> It will NOT have a folder called
> "My Documents" like you have with XP now.  The new computer will have a
> different operating system, in the near future it will be "Windows 8".

You know something we don't ? Why would Microsoft move away from the
convection that has been there for many versions ? That would create
havoc for a very large amount of users. My Mother (87), would have no
clue how to change. She is one that has a hard time with just the basics.
>At that
> time you will have to do this process all over again.  That is one of the
> reasons Legacy puts everything in C:\Legacy\.

I don't have mine in the default location and it runs just fine. Even
with the Sample.fdb file that has attached multimedia :-)

Happy Hunting,

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
>
> You will have to locate/find at least one photo from each 
> folder\sub-folder\etc.
> Laird
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 28/05/2012 18:32, Tim Rosenlöf wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 10:42 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
>> >  If you have MS Access go to tblBP and do a search and replace: Find
>> >  C:\Legacy\Docs\  Replace with C:\genealogy\.
>> >  If you have ltools let us know and someone will write a query to do it
>> >  in one step.
> Ummm... Why not just copy your tree from wherever you have it and paste
> it to C:\\Genealogy\Tree or where ever she wishes. No need for any
> special software.*ALL*  my digitizes items go to C:\\Genealogy\Long and
> deep tree.

The instructions are not for moving files from one folder to another,
they are for telling Legacy where the files have been moved to.

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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
Yuppers :-)

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA


On 5/28/2012 11:19 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> I do have Access but I have no idea how to use it:)I think I will just 
> cut and paste:)



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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
On 5/28/2012 10:42 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> If you have MS Access go to tblBP and do a search and replace: Find
> C:\Legacy\Docs\  Replace with C:\genealogy\.
> If you have ltools let us know and someone will write a query to do it
> in one step.

Ummm... Why not just copy your tree from wherever you have it and paste
it to C:\\Genealogy\Tree or where ever she wishes. No need for any
special software. *ALL* my digitizes items go to C:\\Genealogy\Long and
deep tree.

I don't use multimedia with Legacy. I am one of those that use Legacy as
a 'record management' software only. I also do not have Legacy installed
in the default location (which we have argued before), and it runs just
fine. I am a beta tester and need to install in different locations each
build you don't see. LegacyNew.exe

Happy Hunting,

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf

On 5/28/2012 8:33 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> Unless*storage space*  is at a premium it is not recommended to keep
> JPGs instead of TIFFs but to keep originals of all pictures as TIFFs and
> make a JPG copy for use within Legacy.

Storage space is a *Must* if one can $$ Afford it. I have two solid
state 1 terabyte portable drives. $70 bucks each. One to the safe
deposit box($28.00 per year) for safety and rotate them regularly. I
would hate to loose my long hard work ! Btw... I have ALL my multimedia
in tiff

Tim Rosenlof
Utah. USA



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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Michele Lewis
I do have Access but I have no idea how to use it :)   I think I will just cut 
and paste :)


Michele


-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

Michelle,
That wouldn't be my choice but nothing really objectionable about that.

If you have MS Access go to tblBP and do a search and replace: Find 
C:\Legacy\Docs\  Replace with C:\genealogy\.
If you have ltools let us know and someone will write a query to do it in one 
step.
Of course do a backup first.

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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
> How about a compromise?   C://genealogy  I could put it in the root 
> directory.   I have MANY things that aren't linked to Legacy which means I 
> have two complete sets of identical folders.
>
>
> Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bill,

For example, in Family View in the row of icons below the parents' boxes within 
which there is a Picture Frame Icon, click this and one can add multiple 
pictures, but in common with all those linked one can only have one preferred. 
It is, of course, part of the Picture Gallery.

Similarly, Sources have a Multimedia Tab through which one can add pictures and 
files (such as PDF, TXT etc.).

The point I was making is that I find it much easier to add pictures etc. this 
way than visiting the Picture Gallery itself.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

"William (Bill) R. Linhart"  wrote:

>Ron, I attempted to sort out what  "picture icons" may be and have
>only a guess as I can't find that feature in Legacy Help.  I did find
>a reference to "Preferred Picture" .
>
>I searched Legacy for help on "pictures" and on "icons".
>
>My guess is that you are using the picture gallery feature but only
>putting one picture in any one picture gallery and flagging that
>picture to display as your Picture Icon or "Preferred Picture".   If
>there is another way, would you please share with me?
>
>That type of use would be typical for the way I link census images to
>the source.   There is only one image in the picture gallery.  It is
>set as the "Preferred Picture" and marked with an asterisk.  And it
>displays as the "icon".
>
>I would like to experiment with your approach if it differs from
>"Preferred Picture"  that  I have been reading about.
>
>I have 13 images of very large family bible from 1873 that I wanted to
>keep with the master source in Legacy picture gallery.  Any one piece
>of data might come from one image.  Only about half of the images
>contain hand written information.  The others are nice to help
>understand the source citation and what the Bible looked like.   How
>would you handle this item in your Legacy  work?
>
>Thanks.
>Bill


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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Michelle,
That wouldn't be my choice but nothing really objectionable about that.

If you have MS Access go to tblBP and do a search and replace: Find
C:\Legacy\Docs\  Replace with C:\genealogy\.
If you have ltools let us know and someone will write a query to do it
in one step.
Of course do a backup first.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova
shnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
> How about a compromise?   C://genealogy  I could put it in the root 
> directory.   I have MANY things that aren't linked to Legacy which means I 
> have two complete sets of identical folders.
>
>
> Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report

2012-05-28 Thread Arnold Sprague
Howland Davis and Gene A,
I agree with Howland that Legacy does *NOT* provide an Ahnentafel
Report. At best, Legacy provides a semi-stripped down ancestor report
which passes for an Ahnentafel Report.
IMHO, an Ahnentafel Report simply provides the following:

#1. My name
#2. My father's name
#3. My mother's name
#4. My father's father's name
#5. My father's mother's name
#6. My mother's father's name
#7. and on

Legacy adds much more, such as information pertaining to the parents
of each person above, generation numbers, spouses, and on.
Howland wishes "to create a short Ahnentafel report in order to find
my first unknown ancestor ." I would like to do that for my family
also, but the Legacy report is *NOT* short, not concise, etc., as the
generally accepted Ahnentafel Report is.

Arnold Sprague



At 10:13 AM 5/27/2012, you wrote:
>Howland,
>
> Under Reports > Books is the Ancestor report which will place
> all  ancestors in numerical order beginning with the current
> generation that you have chosen, and going back as far as you
> specify.  The first "missing sequencial" number is the one for your
> unknown ancestor.
>
>Gene A
>
>
>From: Howlanddavisii 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:15 AM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report
>
>  First, I wish to create a short Ahnentafel report in order to
> find my first unknown ancestor (see Genea-Musings Saturday Night
> Fun).  I have gone to Legacy Help and printed out the information
> on "To Create An Ahnentafel (or Ancestor) Report."  But I am having
> trouble finding the "Ahnentafel (Ancestor) Book."  What am I doing wrong?
>  Second, will the above provide me with the Ahnentafel number
> for each person or should I be doing something else to get those
> numbers in numerical order in order to find the first unknown
> person in my ancestor tree?
>  Thanks in advance.
>
>Howland Davis




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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Sherry/Support
Yup, it could be only one picture that causes the problem.

I linked over 25 pics to one individual, most of them larger TIFs, and
that Picture Gallery is always slower to load than the one with over
25 pics in JPG with a file size of 150-200 KB..  That file size is
more than adequate for using in printed books.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Tim Rosenlöf  wrote:
> I remember a few months ago that a user had a 30mb picture that was
> attached. His machine took up to many resources that Legacy would crawl.
> He also removed the photo(tiff), and it solved the problem
>
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in any one Picture Gallery?

2012-05-28 Thread Dave Naylor
Hello William,

On 28 May 2012  William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:

> Would you please look at your highest number of pictures in any one
> picture gallery and respond with the maximum count of pictures you
> have in that gallery?

My largest for one individual contains 12 pictures and these are a
mix of JPG and BMP.

The Picture Gallery opens immediately with all thumbnails -- this on
an  XP system.

How much of your system's RAM is free when you experience the
problem?

Cheers! -- Dave N
--
  David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Rosenlöf
I remember a few months ago that a user had a 30mb picture that was
attached. His machine took up to many resources that Legacy would crawl.
He also removed the photo(tiff), and it solved the problem

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA


On 5/28/2012 9:23 AM, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:
> Ron,  thanks.  That is a good point about the the source images I have
> stored in the Legacy/pictures folder not actually being in Legacy.
>
> I think that Legacy may read and render those images in
> Legacy/pictures so that it can present the small pictures in the
> gallery.  In my case that is 13 small pictures displayed in rows of 5
> each.
>
> I am guessing that Legacy may be using some temporary files on disk
> for working storage when resizing the images for presentation in
> gallery format on the screen.
>
> I think something degrades in the end-to-end image processing that
> causes the gallery feature of Legacy to eventually get stuck consuming
> high amounts of CPU indefinitely after some threshold of picture count
> is reached in the picture gallery.   Then after deleting that
> threshold picture from the gallery the CPU usage returns to 0%.
>
> There is always the chance that something is broken in only my
> computer.  That is especially true if no one else has this problem.
>
> But I have not other symptoms of trouble on my machine.  Since I am
> relatively new to Legacy, I may have done something that "broke"
> Legacy.  But I don't know what that could be.
>
> This is very puzzling.
>
> Bill
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in any one Picture Gallery?

2012-05-28 Thread Sherry/Support
Bill also reported this to Support and I'm working with him on this off list.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Sherry/Support
 wrote:
> How much memory do you have on your computer? Which version of Windows
> do you have?  You need a minimum of 2 MB if you have Windows 7 - it's
> better with 4 MB.
>
>  Do you have other programs running in the background when going into
> the Picture Gallery?
>
> When was the last time you defragged your computer?  I'd recommend
> that you do that - it should be under Start > Programs > Accessories >
> System Tools.
>
> Run File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair on the Family File (back up
> first - File > Backup Family FIle).
>
> Legacy needs time to create the thumbnails. If your pictures are a
> large file size (how big are the JPG files?), it can slow down the
> process.
>
> Most people only run into problems when they have too many TIF files
> linked or large jpgs.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM, William (Bill) R. Linhart
>  wrote:
>> Would you please look at your highest number of pictures in any one
>> picture gallery and respond with the maximum count of pictures you
>> have in that gallery?
>>
>> I seem to be having trouble adding more than about seven (7) pictures
>> in my JPG test results and nine (9) pictures when adding large TIF
>> images in my test results.   Any one else notice this problem?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bill,

I am not attempting to assist with the details of  the use of the Picture 
Gallery because I do not use it. I use the Picture Icons on the various 
screens. For example, I must have at least 15000 images attached to my Sources 
and I have no problems.

Whether you continue trying the Picture Gallery, or try other ways is your 
choice, personally I would have given up ages ago :-). However, you were wise 
to move from using TIF to JPG, as the former is really only designed for 
storage and quality printing.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

"William (Bill) R. Linhart"  wrote:

>Ron,  thanks.  That is a good point about the the source images I have
>stored in the Legacy/pictures folder not actually being in Legacy.
>
>I think that Legacy may read and render those images in
>Legacy/pictures so that it can present the small pictures in the
>gallery.  In my case that is 13 small pictures displayed in rows of 5
>each.
>
>I am guessing that Legacy may be using some temporary files on disk
>for working storage when resizing the images for presentation in
>gallery format on the screen.
>
>I think something degrades in the end-to-end image processing that
>causes the gallery feature of Legacy to eventually get stuck consuming
>high amounts of CPU indefinitely after some threshold of picture count
>is reached in the picture gallery.   Then after deleting that
>threshold picture from the gallery the CPU usage returns to 0%.
>
>There is always the chance that something is broken in only my
>computer.  That is especially true if no one else has this problem.
>
>But I have not other symptoms of trouble on my machine.  Since I am
>relatively new to Legacy, I may have done something that "broke"
>Legacy.  But I don't know what that could be.
>
>This is very puzzling.
>
>Bill

>


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Re: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in any one Picture Gallery?

2012-05-28 Thread Sherry/Support
How much memory do you have on your computer? Which version of Windows
do you have?  You need a minimum of 2 MB if you have Windows 7 - it's
better with 4 MB.

 Do you have other programs running in the background when going into
the Picture Gallery?

When was the last time you defragged your computer?  I'd recommend
that you do that - it should be under Start > Programs > Accessories >
System Tools.

Run File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair on the Family File (back up
first - File > Backup Family FIle).

Legacy needs time to create the thumbnails. If your pictures are a
large file size (how big are the JPG files?), it can slow down the
process.

Most people only run into problems when they have too many TIF files
linked or large jpgs.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM, William (Bill) R. Linhart
 wrote:
> Would you please look at your highest number of pictures in any one
> picture gallery and respond with the maximum count of pictures you
> have in that gallery?
>
> I seem to be having trouble adding more than about seven (7) pictures
> in my JPG test results and nine (9) pictures when adding large TIF
> images in my test results.   Any one else notice this problem?
>
> Thanks.
> Bill
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in any one Picture Gallery?

2012-05-28 Thread William (Bill) R. Linhart
Morris, thanks.

I have only about 100 picture files so far.  They are a mix of JPG, TIF and PDF.

I am exploring the possibility that it may be the total number on
pictures in one-single gallery that causes my trouble.   What is the
maximum number of pictures you have in any one single gallery?This
is the number of pictures that Legacy attempts to re-size and present
in "wallet size" on the screen when you open the picture gallery.

If you have only half dozen or less pictures in anyone single gallery,
you may not have hit the problem I am having.  It is also possible
that I am the only one with the problem.   However, you have so many
pictures that you must have some galleries with a high count of
pictures.

Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread William (Bill) R. Linhart
Ron,  thanks.  That is a good point about the the source images I have
stored in the Legacy/pictures folder not actually being in Legacy.

I think that Legacy may read and render those images in
Legacy/pictures so that it can present the small pictures in the
gallery.  In my case that is 13 small pictures displayed in rows of 5
each.

I am guessing that Legacy may be using some temporary files on disk
for working storage when resizing the images for presentation in
gallery format on the screen.

I think something degrades in the end-to-end image processing that
causes the gallery feature of Legacy to eventually get stuck consuming
high amounts of CPU indefinitely after some threshold of picture count
is reached in the picture gallery.   Then after deleting that
threshold picture from the gallery the CPU usage returns to 0%.

There is always the chance that something is broken in only my
computer.  That is especially true if no one else has this problem.

But I have not other symptoms of trouble on my machine.  Since I am
relatively new to Legacy, I may have done something that "broke"
Legacy.  But I don't know what that could be.

This is very puzzling.

Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in any one Picture Gallery?

2012-05-28 Thread M Sonnier
Hi Bill,

The number of pics handled by Legacy is limitless.  Legacy does not store or 
copy your pics in a separate database.  Rather, Legacy links to your current 
pictures.  That is why you have to tell it where the files are located.  Legacy 
does provide a folder for pictures if you choose to save pictures in that file. 
 However, it still links.  I have my photos stored on dropbox.  I have 7,160 
jpg files stored in a file I have named Legacy Family Tree Pics.  I have 
another file on dropbox named Legacy Docs with subfolders which contain about 
1,500 pdf files of documents.  I do not use Tiff files.  I have converted them 
to jpg files.

Try moving your Tiff files to your desktop.  Then try to see if you have the 
same results without the Tiff files in your picture list.

Morris



 From: William (Bill) R. Linhart 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] SURVEY: What is the highest number of pictures you have in 
any one Picture Gallery?

Would you please look at your highest number of pictures in any one
picture gallery and respond with the maximum count of pictures you
have in that gallery?

I seem to be having trouble adding more than about seven (7) pictures
in my JPG test results and nine (9) pictures when adding large TIF
images in my test results.   Any one else notice this problem?

Thanks.
Bill



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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread David C Abernathy
And EACH user account, so if one has multi accounts then this folder will be 
different for each Windows user account.
This has been in place since Windows 98 if not 95. So it is NOT something new.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

Michelle,

I agree with Laird that Legacy pictures and documents belong under Legacy. My 
Documents is a relative folder (or Directory if using XP) and is unique to a 
computer.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
> Right now I have all of my genealogy photos and documents in the Legacy
> Folder PICTURES  (I had subfolders in there).  These are only the items that
> I have actually attached to Legacy somewhere in my file.
>
>
>
> I have a similar file structure already on my computer under MY DOCUMENTS.
> I would like to move all of the stuff that is in PICTURES to MY DOCUMENTS so
> everything is in the same place.  I know that this will create a big problem
> because all of my paths will be wrong.  Is there some easy way to fix the
> paths without having to do it one at a time?  I have probably 200 or so
> documents and photos in the PICTURES folder (I know that relatively speaking
> that isn’t very many but it will still be time consuming if I have to do
> this all by hand).
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bill,

Legacy does not "hold" any pictures at all, only the paths to where you have 
them stored. It seems probable that what you are seeing is a simple example of 
the bigger a database then the longer it takes to search.

Ron Ferguson
http://fergys.co.uk/

"William (Bill) R. Linhart"  wrote:

>NEXT TEST – adding JPG images ONLY to picture gallery … and removing
>
>As I added JPGs to the picture gallery I could see the number of
>seconds it took to process each addition of a  link to the gallery was
>increasing.  The system starting holding at 35-45% CPU utilization at
>the 8th addition to the picture gallery.   It seemed to be in a
>permanent loop in the application.
>
>Therefore, it appears to be related to the number of images in the
>picture gallery and not the size or format of the images. These were
>all small JPG images in this test.
>
>When I removed #8 JPG the CPU usage returned to 0% in 12 seconds.
>When I removed #7 it took 8 seconds.  When I removed #6 it took 5
>seconds.   The number seconds to remove an image continued to decline
>(improve) as I removed the rest of the images from the picture
>gallery>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 28/05/2012 15:11, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:
> As a result of the JPG suggestion I wanted to see just how much
> storage I could save by converting the images.
> As an aside:  I used FastStone Photo Resizer to create JPEG-90's using
> the batch feature.  It took 9 seconds to create the 13 JPGs.  That
> reduced the size of the 13 images by 96%!  Comparison of the resulting
> images appear to be very, very good.  If enlarged to an extreme, I see
> a slight degradation in image quality.

Unless *storage space* is at a premium it is not recommended to keep
JPGs instead of TIFFs but to keep originals of all pictures as TIFFs and
make a JPG copy for use within Legacy.

(You may be keeping both, but thought I'd clarify this for the benefit
of those who didn't know.)

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] USR Files

2012-05-28 Thread Sherry/Support
Pleaes do *NOT* edit the usr files. You could really mess things up
because even spacing can be critical.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Mike Fry  wrote:
> Here's a little tip for you.
>
> Nearly all the USR files that can be found in the Legacy folder/directory are
> text files and can thus be opened (and edited) with Notepad. The problem is
> matching each line in a particular file, with the options and screen to which
> they refer.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Any suggestions? Picture Gallery trouble in Master Source picture gallery - family bible TIF's

2012-05-28 Thread William (Bill) R. Linhart
Further investigation today I found the following:

These images are ONLY linked to a Master Source according to
Multimedia List Report runs that I did on the new copy of my Legacy
file.

Therefore, I decided to add them to an individual to see if that would
change the symptoms.  In doing so I discovered the following:

I clicked on the individual and clicked on pictures icon.   I started
adding the 13 TIFs one at a time.   All was well until I got to adding
the 9th TIF.  The 9th addition put the CPU into that 35-45% range
solid for 30 seconds before returning to 0% CPU usage.  Then I added
the 10th and CPU has been running at 35-45% utilization solid for the
past 10+ minutes.  The picture gallery flashes about every 6-7 seconds
and briefly says "(not responding)" in the title bar after the picture
gallery name.

It appears that when I add large TIF's to picture gallery that at #9,
in this case, it begins to use a lot of CPU for 30 seconds but
recovers.

When adding #10 it goes into a permanent looping state that flashes
(not responding) every 6-7 seconds.


FASTSTONE PHOTO RESIZER - good results
As a result of the JPG suggestion I wanted to see just how much
storage I could save by converting the images.
As an aside:  I used FastStone Photo Resizer to create JPEG-90's using
the batch feature.  It took 9 seconds to create the 13 JPGs.  That
reduced the size of the 13 images by 96%!  Comparison of the resulting
images appear to be very, very good.  If enlarged to an extreme, I see
a slight degradation in image quality.

If forced to JPGs, I have found a tool that is free and works very
well for converting batches of images quickly.



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[LegacyUG] USR Files

2012-05-28 Thread Mike Fry
Here's a little tip for you.

Nearly all the USR files that can be found in the Legacy folder/directory are
text files and can thus be opened (and edited) with Notepad. The problem is
matching each line in a particular file, with the options and screen to which
they refer.

--
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Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor book

2012-05-28 Thread sarlesinsight
Thank you. I had not had experience with the "Reset" button. It did the
trick. One day I will learn to study the screen before I leap.

Jane

On , Mike Fry  wrote:
> On 2012/05/28 15:03, sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:



> > I went to "Books and other", clicked on "Ancestors" and then on "Report
> Options"

> > (bottom middle button). When the "Report Options" screen opens the only
> thing

> > that is checked is - "Birth and death dates on names" Everything on the
> right

> > column (the one that has "Events" and "Notes" is greyed out. Most of
> that on the

> > left column is also greyed out. It does not allow me to choose hardly
> anything

> > on that screen.



> If pressing the *reset* button has no effect...



> Then goto your Legacy folder and delete the Ances.usr file.



> --

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> Mike Fry

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Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestor book

2012-05-28 Thread sarlesinsight
I went to "Books and other", clicked on "Ancestors" and then on "Report
Options" (bottom middle button). When the "Report Options" screen opens the
only thing that is checked is - "Birth and death dates on names" Everything
on the right column (the one that has "Events" and "Notes" is greyed out.
Most of that on the left column is also greyed out. It does not allow me to
choose hardly anything on that screen.

Jane

Jane

On , CE WOOD  wrote:




> Are you sure you are doing an Ancestor Book Report and not an Ancester
> Chart? If you click on the Ancestor tab, you are getting a chart. Click
> on Books/Other, then on Ancestor, and you will get the options.

> CE

> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:59:08 +
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ancestor book
> From: sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

> When I do an Ancestor Book Report, the screen for "Include" does not
> allow me to choose what to include. For example, I may wish to include
> certain events, or all; or perhaps I do not wish to include "General
> notes" or Research Notes". I do not see that it allows me to choose. I
> must overlooking something, right?

> Jane Sarles


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals

2012-05-28 Thread Terry Foxcroft

Thanks Mary. I'll have a look at the web site. It is good to know people out 
there doing this stuff. I have access to a ginormous roll printer. It would be 
great (and cheap) to be able to do my own straight from Legacy Charting. Maybe 
Legacy can talk to Janet Thanks again. Terry
 > From: mgmo...@juno.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals
> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 02:23:07 +
>
> Terry
>
> I think I remember Janet Hovorka with the Family Chartmasters (also known as 
> "the chart chick") saying that her company does a chart that includes 
> everyone in your database. She did a webinar for Legacy a few months ago. 
> Check out their website at https://familychartmasters.com/php/index.php.
>
> I definitely remember her saying that they do all kinds of custom charts.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
> 
> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33
> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4fc190765cbe51ac628st01vuc
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style

2012-05-28 Thread Dan and Sandy Denby

IT WORKED!!!   IT WORKED
Thank-you Ron, Don and Jenny!
You can stare and stare at something again and again and play around but 
sometimes the solution just doesn't appear, of-course it was in front of me all 
along.  I really appreciate the speedy help.  Take care and Thanks again
A relieve and happy Sandy


From: denb...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 07:32:06 -0400





Opps, went searching again, found the field Address-City, have to go and have 
my second cup of coffee for the morning and then try again.   Will let you know 
how it goes in a few.
ThanksSandy

From: denb...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 07:25:58 -0400





Morning Jenny
Sounded good, but when I go into search and then Detail search to be able to 
use "not equal to" HOW do I enter the field name "Address-City".  In the "where 
to look box" I am limited to the programs choices. I am still trying.Thank-you
Sandy


> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:57:22 +0100
>
> On 28/05/2012 02:40, Dan and Sandy Denby wrote:
> >
> > BINGO, yes you are correct.  I was getting too hung up with wanting
> > names and addresses and going to the reports titled such.   USING your
> > suggestion the format and field title names are just like I got in 2010
> > BUT  sorry there is always a BUT.  I only want those people that have
> > information in the address fields.  This information is in the Detail
> > tab and include Addr1, Addr2, ...  So, I am thinking that I need to
> > create a search list, I have tried and tried but I can't figure out how
> > to get a search list for only those people with addresses.
> >
> > Can you help again?
>
> I am not Don, but ...!
>
> Using the Search, look for Individuals who have Address-City Not Equal
> To "".  (I am assuming that anyone for who you have an address will have
> the City field filled in, even if not some of the others, so that is the
> best one to use.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style

2012-05-28 Thread Dan and Sandy Denby

Opps, went searching again, found the field Address-City, have to go and have 
my second cup of coffee for the morning and then try again.   Will let you know 
how it goes in a few.
ThanksSandy

From: denb...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 07:25:58 -0400





Morning Jenny
Sounded good, but when I go into search and then Detail search to be able to 
use "not equal to" HOW do I enter the field name "Address-City".  In the "where 
to look box" I am limited to the programs choices. I am still trying.Thank-you
Sandy


> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:57:22 +0100
>
> On 28/05/2012 02:40, Dan and Sandy Denby wrote:
> >
> > BINGO, yes you are correct.  I was getting too hung up with wanting
> > names and addresses and going to the reports titled such.   USING your
> > suggestion the format and field title names are just like I got in 2010
> > BUT  sorry there is always a BUT.  I only want those people that have
> > information in the address fields.  This information is in the Detail
> > tab and include Addr1, Addr2, ...  So, I am thinking that I need to
> > create a search list, I have tried and tried but I can't figure out how
> > to get a search list for only those people with addresses.
> >
> > Can you help again?
>
> I am not Don, but ...!
>
> Using the Search, look for Individuals who have Address-City Not Equal
> To "".  (I am assuming that anyone for who you have an address will have
> the City field filled in, even if not some of the others, so that is the
> best one to use.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style

2012-05-28 Thread Dan and Sandy Denby

Morning Jenny
Sounded good, but when I go into search and then Detail search to be able to 
use "not equal to" HOW do I enter the field name "Address-City".  In the "where 
to look box" I am limited to the programs choices. I am still trying.Thank-you
Sandy


> From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style
> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:57:22 +0100
>
> On 28/05/2012 02:40, Dan and Sandy Denby wrote:
> >
> > BINGO, yes you are correct.  I was getting too hung up with wanting
> > names and addresses and going to the reports titled such.   USING your
> > suggestion the format and field title names are just like I got in 2010
> > BUT  sorry there is always a BUT.  I only want those people that have
> > information in the address fields.  This information is in the Detail
> > tab and include Addr1, Addr2, ...  So, I am thinking that I need to
> > create a search list, I have tried and tried but I can't figure out how
> > to get a search list for only those people with addresses.
> >
> > Can you help again?
>
> I am not Don, but ...!
>
> Using the Search, look for Individuals who have Address-City Not Equal
> To "".  (I am assuming that anyone for who you have an address will have
> the City field filled in, even if not some of the others, so that is the
> best one to use.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

2012-05-28 Thread Michele Lewis
How about a compromise?   C://genealogy  I could put it in the root directory.  
 I have MANY things that aren't linked to Legacy which means I have two 
complete sets of identical folders.


Michele


-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the best way to do this?

Michelle,

I agree with Laird that Legacy pictures and documents belong under Legacy. My 
Documents is a relative folder (or Directory if using XP) and is unique to a 
computer.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Michele Lewis  wrote:
> Right now I have all of my genealogy photos and documents in the Legacy
> Folder PICTURES  (I had subfolders in there).  These are only the items that
> I have actually attached to Legacy somewhere in my file.
>
>
>
> I have a similar file structure already on my computer under MY DOCUMENTS.
> I would like to move all of the stuff that is in PICTURES to MY DOCUMENTS so
> everything is in the same place.  I know that this will create a big problem
> because all of my paths will be wrong.  Is there some easy way to fix the
> paths without having to do it one at a time?  I have probably 200 or so
> documents and photos in the PICTURES folder (I know that relatively speaking
> that isn’t very many but it will still be time consuming if I have to do
> this all by hand).
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Name Tags - report style

2012-05-28 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 28/05/2012 02:40, Dan and Sandy Denby wrote:
>
> BINGO, yes you are correct.  I was getting too hung up with wanting
> names and addresses and going to the reports titled such.   USING your
> suggestion the format and field title names are just like I got in 2010
> BUT  sorry there is always a BUT.  I only want those people that have
> information in the address fields.  This information is in the Detail
> tab and include Addr1, Addr2, ...  So, I am thinking that I need to
> create a search list, I have tried and tried but I can't figure out how
> to get a search list for only those people with addresses.
>
> Can you help again?

I am not Don, but ...!

Using the Search, look for Individuals who have Address-City Not Equal
To "".  (I am assuming that anyone for who you have an address will have
the City field filled in, even if not some of the others, so that is the
best one to use.

--
Jenny M Benson



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