RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[John S. Adams]

I think we may have a common ancestor.  Was your Grandmother's surname Jacobs?

John S. AdamsVentura, CA

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:09:34 +1000..
. my dead grandmother while she was drunk and actually thought she was 
following the horse races J


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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Anne Hollingshead]

I have just run a text file to capture the text in my whole family file
then copied that into Word so that I could edit it easily.

It ran to 7000 pages and transferred reasonably quickly.

I have lost quite a lot of formatting but it is very readable.

I now intend to do my main family lines on PDF.

Anne



On 25/06/2012 6:49 AM, JLB wrote:
> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>> I have two suggestions:
>>
>> 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
>> your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
>> you can include FGS for individuals as well.
>>
>> 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
>> into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
>> your file as a PDF.
>>
>> To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
>> report screen.
>>
>> It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
>> view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
>> a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
>> only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> We are changing the world of genealogy!
>> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
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>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
>>> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
>>> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
>>> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
>>> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
>>> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
>>> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
>>> computer program needed to see the file.
>>>
>>> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
>>> start with?
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

Sorry. I thought you were just trying to get Events (and accompanying
sources) from one file to another. I obviously don't understand the
complexity of what you're dealing with.

I hope you understand that the fields you can import through Merge are
optional. It can be just Events.

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 10:04 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Thank you for your input but it fails to address the issue, it does not 
> achieve the required result. Copy and paste never came into it, at least not 
> from me.
>
> I DO NOT WANT TO/CANNOT IMPORT PEOPLE FOR REASONS OF MY OWN, I am dealing 
> with events only and perhaps sources, thousands&  thousands of them and 
> import/merge is NOT an option as stated in my opening question. The simplest 
> thing would be if I could keep events open in one screen while working on 
> someone in the other screen, so I can transcribe&  check as I go. Legacy does 
> not allow this however access database (legacy's engine) does, so I'm trying 
> to find a way to make it work in legacy too. Simple as that.
>
> Being able to template events across different databases would be good 
> (albeit problematic under windows) as would running simultaneous versions of 
> legacy but none of these work in legacy windows, although all can be done in 
> varying degrees, in the access engine that is Legacy's heart.
>
> I've tried it on a unix machine and all can be done there easily using 
> emulators too BUT my laptop does not run unix. I could do screen captures and 
> keep that open in one screen but it will nearly triple the time involved.
>
> At this point the most helpful ideas are finding another program that can 
> read legacy files directly, accurately&  completely so i can open that in one 
> screen/monitor while working legacy on the other, building a legacy 
> compatible reader (groan), accessing the legacy database tables directly 
> (double groan) or finding a way to shell legacy to run a second copy without 
> installing a new operating system. The last is looking as the most promising 
> right now.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>
>
> BTW Like your site by the way.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:56 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Ok, I've read it (for the fourth time) - Stop trying to copy and paste.
> Go to Family View on both screens. Drag and drop 'John Smith' on the right to 
> 'John Smith' on the left.
>
> Proceed through the screens:
> Just The Individual Above, and anything else on the screen you're interested 
> in.
> Click Start Copy
> Do what you want on next screens til you get to Merge.
>
> Then keep all information on the left, as you want it, go to the Events tab 
> and send the Events on the right to the left side.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 8:37 PM, JLB wrote:
>> If I could find you in the thread I would. I only see your name in it
>> once and I could swear you've been talking on this subject practically
>> forever. If you'd like some help, kindly humour me and tell me your
>> problem.
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 8:29 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>>> Several things, please read the thread.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it 
>>> you're trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's 
>>> stopping you?
>>>
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
 I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around 
 database locking?

 Cheers

 Ian

 -Original Message-
 From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
 Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.

 JL Beeken
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

 On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> No 
> I’ve
>  made it clear a few
> times that the issue is running different legacy files in each screen.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legac

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ian GARDENER]

Thank you for your input but it fails to address the issue, it does not achieve 
the required result. Copy and paste never came into it, at least not from me.

I DO NOT WANT TO/CANNOT IMPORT PEOPLE FOR REASONS OF MY OWN, I am dealing with 
events only and perhaps sources, thousands & thousands of them and import/merge 
is NOT an option as stated in my opening question. The simplest thing would be 
if I could keep events open in one screen while working on someone in the other 
screen, so I can transcribe & check as I go. Legacy does not allow this however 
access database (legacy's engine) does, so I'm trying to find a way to make it 
work in legacy too. Simple as that.

Being able to template events across different databases would be good (albeit 
problematic under windows) as would running simultaneous versions of legacy but 
none of these work in legacy windows, although all can be done in varying 
degrees, in the access engine that is Legacy's heart.

I've tried it on a unix machine and all can be done there easily using 
emulators too BUT my laptop does not run unix. I could do screen captures and 
keep that open in one screen but it will nearly triple the time involved.

At this point the most helpful ideas are finding another program that can read 
legacy files directly, accurately & completely so i can open that in one 
screen/monitor while working legacy on the other, building a legacy compatible 
reader (groan), accessing the legacy database tables directly (double groan) or 
finding a way to shell legacy to run a second copy without installing a new 
operating system. The last is looking as the most promising right now.



Regards

Ian


BTW Like your site by the way.


-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

Ok, I've read it (for the fourth time) - Stop trying to copy and paste.
Go to Family View on both screens. Drag and drop 'John Smith' on the right to 
'John Smith' on the left.

Proceed through the screens:
Just The Individual Above, and anything else on the screen you're interested in.
Click Start Copy
Do what you want on next screens til you get to Merge.

Then keep all information on the left, as you want it, go to the Events tab and 
send the Events on the right to the left side.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 8:37 PM, JLB wrote:
> If I could find you in the thread I would. I only see your name in it
> once and I could swear you've been talking on this subject practically
> forever. If you'd like some help, kindly humour me and tell me your
> problem.
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 8:29 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>> Several things, please read the thread.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it you're 
>> trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's stopping you?
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>>> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
>>> locking?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.
>>>
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
 No I’ve made it clear a few
 times that the issue is running different legacy files in each screen.

 Cheers

 Ian

 *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 Ian,

 I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
 impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the
 split screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a 
 time.

 Ron Ferguson

 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 *From:*Ian GARDENER

 *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM

 *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 

 *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view

Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[JLB]

OK, great. I also use PDF Creator. Easy fix, isn't it?

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 9:24 PM, Laird wrote:
> Hi JL,
> This should work for you.  You can still use the idea Brian suggested.
>
> I just created a PDF Family Group Sheet of all of the marriages in my file.
> There are 5,048 families and the PDF was 7,539 pages and 29.8 MB in size.
>
> Next I created individual reports for everyone in my file.  There are 13,864
> individuals in my file and the PDF contained 32,767 pages and 315 MB in size.
>
> I used a software printer driver which looks like a printer to Windows (and
> Legacy) and creates a PDF file.  I use free PDFCreator.  There are many other
> products available such as CutePDF.
>
> In Legacy reports don't use Preview.
> Use the Printer Setup button to select a PDF soft printer driver, in my case
> PDFCreator.
> Next click on the Print button and when prompted save the PDF file to your HDD
> of your choice.
>
> Laird
>
> On 6/24/2012 4:00 PM, JLB wrote:
>> It looks like it stops. I got up to Page 4297 the second run. And damn!
>> It was such a good idea.
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 1:55 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>> LOL, Sorry JL.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:49 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?
>>>
>>> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
>>> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
>>> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
>>> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>>>
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
 I have two suggestions:

 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
 your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
 you can include FGS for individuals as well.

 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
 into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
 your file as a PDF.

 To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
 report screen.

 It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
 view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
 a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
 only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.

 Thanks.

 On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
>
> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
> computer program needed to see the file.
>
> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
> start with?

>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Laird]

Hi JL,
This should work for you.  You can still use the idea Brian suggested.

I just created a PDF Family Group Sheet of all of the marriages in my file.
There are 5,048 families and the PDF was 7,539 pages and 29.8 MB in size.

Next I created individual reports for everyone in my file.  There are 13,864
individuals in my file and the PDF contained 32,767 pages and 315 MB in size.

I used a software printer driver which looks like a printer to Windows (and
Legacy) and creates a PDF file.  I use free PDFCreator.  There are many other
products available such as CutePDF.

In Legacy reports don't use Preview.
Use the Printer Setup button to select a PDF soft printer driver, in my case
PDFCreator.
Next click on the Print button and when prompted save the PDF file to your HDD
of your choice.

Laird

On 6/24/2012 4:00 PM, JLB wrote:
> It looks like it stops. I got up to Page 4297 the second run. And damn!
> It was such a good idea.
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 1:55 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> LOL, Sorry JL.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB
>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:49 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?
>>
>> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
>> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
>> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
>> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>>> I have two suggestions:
>>>
>>> 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
>>> your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
>>> you can include FGS for individuals as well.
>>>
>>> 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
>>> into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
>>> your file as a PDF.
>>>
>>> To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
>>> report screen.
>>>
>>> It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
>>> view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
>>> a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
>>> only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
>>> We are changing the world of genealogy!
>>> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
 I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
 .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
 there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
 family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
 the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
 By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
 computer program needed to see the file.

 Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
 start with?
>>>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

Ok, I've read it (for the fourth time) - Stop trying to copy and paste.
Go to Family View on both screens. Drag and drop 'John Smith' on the
right to 'John Smith' on the left.

Proceed through the screens:
Just The Individual Above, and anything else on the screen you're
interested in.
Click Start Copy
Do what you want on next screens til you get to Merge.

Then keep all information on the left, as you want it, go to the Events
tab and send the Events on the right to the left side.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 8:37 PM, JLB wrote:
> If I could find you in the thread I would. I only see your name in it
> once and I could swear you've been talking on this subject practically
> forever. If you'd like some help, kindly humour me and tell me your
> problem.
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 8:29 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>> Several things, please read the thread.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it you're 
>> trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's stopping you?
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>>> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
>>> locking?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.
>>>
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
 No I’ve made it clear a few times 
 that the issue is running
 different legacy files in each screen.

 Cheers

 Ian

 *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 Ian,

 I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
 impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
 screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.

 Ron Ferguson

 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 *From:*Ian GARDENER

 *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM

 *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 

 *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 Hi,

 Agreed.

 However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with
 different databases/files no worries at all, 
 it’s a classic
 use of db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end.

 Cheers

 Ian

 *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 Ian,

 Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why
 you can only copy/paste into the same database.

 Yes Legacy is Access based.

 Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access
 based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
 They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and
 should be welcomed.

 Ron Ferguson

 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 *From:*Ian GARDENER

 *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM

 *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 

 *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

 Hi,

 No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.
 I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
>>>
 Specifically:

 On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on
 the right screen I have myself open in the old database.

 In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
 the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click
 on the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It
 doesnÃ

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

If I could find you in the thread I would. I only see your name in it
once and I could swear you've been talking on this subject practically
forever. If you'd like some help, kindly humour me and tell me your
problem.

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 8:29 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Several things, please read the thread.
>
> cheers
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it you're 
> trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's stopping you?
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
>> locking?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.
>>
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>>> No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running
>>> different legacy files in each screen.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
>>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
>>> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
>>> screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with
>>> different databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic
>>> use of db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
>>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why
>>> you can only copy/paste into the same database.
>>>
>>> Yes Legacy is Access based.
>>>
>>> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access
>>> based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
>>> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and
>>> should be welcomed.
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.
>>> I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
>>
>>> Specifically:
>>>
>>> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on
>>> the right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>>>
>>> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
>>> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click
>>> on the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It
>>> doesn’t matter wether I save or cancel in the old database,
>>> the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS 
>>> EMPTY”.
>>>
>>> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same
>>> thing, same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on
>>> the different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is
>>> Legacy accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially
>>> the same thing and same result.
>>>
>>> Ian G
>>>
>>> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
>>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> 
>>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>>
>>> <>> individual) but I cannot get it to work wh

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ian GARDENER]

Several things, please read the thread.

cheers

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it you're 
trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's stopping you?

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
> locking?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>> No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running
>> different legacy files in each screen.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
>> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
>> screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
>>
>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>>
>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with
>> different databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic
>> use of db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why
>> you can only copy/paste into the same database.
>>
>> Yes Legacy is Access based.
>>
>> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access
>> based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
>> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and
>> should be welcomed.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>
>> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>>
>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>>
>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.
>> I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
>
>> Specifically:
>>
>> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on
>> the right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>>
>> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
>> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click
>> on the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It
>> doesn’t matter wether I save or cancel in the old database,
>> the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
>>
>> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same
>> thing, same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on
>> the different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is
>> Legacy accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially
>> the same thing and same result.
>>
>> Ian G
>>
>> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> <> individual) but I cannot get it to work when each split is open to a
>> different file L
>>
>> Ian>>
>>
>> We must be talking past each other, because I often use this method
>> within a single file and between different files in a split screen.
>> The only requirement is that you "save" the individual information as
>> it currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved
>> information becomes a template from which you can use any piece of
>> information you wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy
>> remembers the last one saved when it is closed - it very well could.
>> I 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it
you're trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's
stopping you?

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
> locking?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>> No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running
>> different legacy files in each screen.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
>> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
>> screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
>>
>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>>
>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with
>> different databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic use of
>> db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why
>> you can only copy/paste into the same database.
>>
>> Yes Legacy is Access based.
>>
>> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access
>> based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
>> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and
>> should be welcomed.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> *From:*Ian GARDENER
>>
>> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>>
>> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>>
>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.
>> I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
>
>> Specifically:
>>
>> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the
>> right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>>
>> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
>> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on
>> the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter
>> wether I save or cancel in the old database, the result applies,
>> “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
>>
>> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same
>> thing, same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on
>> the different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is
>> Legacy accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially the
>> same thing and same result.
>>
>> Ian G
>>
>> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> 
>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>>
>> <> individual) but I cannot get it to work when each split is open to a
>> different file L
>>
>> Ian>>
>>
>> We must be talking past each other, because I often use this method
>> within a single file and between different files in a split screen.
>> The only requirement is that you "save" the individual information as
>> it currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved
>> information becomes a template from which you can use any piece of
>> information you wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy
>> remembers the last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. I
>> have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in both,
>> and I call up split screen, enter the personal information in one
>> database, save it, then go to the other database and copy each newly
>> entered information by clicking

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ian GARDENER]

I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database 
locking?

Cheers

Ian

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running
> different legacy files in each screen.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Ian,
>
> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
> screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> *From:*Ian GARDENER 
>
> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
>
> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
>
> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Hi,
>
> Agreed.
>
> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with
> different databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic use of
> db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Ian,
>
> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why
> you can only copy/paste into the same database.
>
> Yes Legacy is Access based.
>
> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access
> based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and
> should be welcomed.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> *From:*Ian GARDENER 
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>
> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
>
> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Hi,
>
> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.
> I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
> Specifically:
>
> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the
> right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>
> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on
> the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter
> wether I save or cancel in the old database, the result applies,
> “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
>
> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same
> thing, same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on
> the different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is
> Legacy accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially the
> same thing and same result.
>
> Ian G
>
> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> < individual) but I cannot get it to work when each split is open to a
> different file L
>
> Ian>>
>
> We must be talking past each other, because I often use this method
> within a single file and between different files in a split screen.
> The only requirement is that you "save" the individual information as
> it currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved
> information becomes a template from which you can use any piece of
> information you wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy
> remembers the last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. I
> have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in both,
> and I call up split screen, enter the personal information in one
> database, save it, then go to the other database and copy each newly
> entered information by clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying 
> to use this method?
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem.

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running different
> legacy files in each screen.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Ian,
>
> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the
> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split
> screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> *From:*Ian GARDENER 
>
> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
>
> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
>
> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Hi,
>
> Agreed.
>
> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with different
> databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic use of db. This is
> blocked in the Legacy front end.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Ian,
>
> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why you
> can only copy/paste into the same database.
>
> Yes Legacy is Access based.
>
> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access based
> as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases.
> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and should
> be welcomed.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> *From:*Ian GARDENER 
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
>
> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
>
> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Hi,
>
> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another. I
> can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
> Specifically:
>
> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the
> right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>
> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on
> the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter
> wether I save or cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE
> EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
>
> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing,
> same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the
> different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy
> accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially the same
> thing and same result.
>
> Ian G
>
> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> < individual) but I cannot get it to work when each split is open to a
> different file L
>
> Ian>>
>
> We must be talking past each other, because I often use this method
> within a single file and between different files in a split screen. The
> only requirement is that you "save" the individual information as it
> currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved information
> becomes a template from which you can use any piece of information you
> wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy remembers the last one
> saved when it is closed - it very well could. I have 2 files that I
> record current happenings in, identically in both, and I call up split
> screen, enter the personal information in one database, save it, then go
> to the other database and copy each newly entered information by
> clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this method?
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ian GARDENER]

No I’ve made it clear a few times that the issue is running different legacy 
files in each screen.



Cheers



Ian



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Ian,



I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the impression 
that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split screen you can 
copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/





From: Ian GARDENER 

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Hi,



Agreed.



However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with different 
databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic use of db. This is blocked in 
the Legacy front end.





Cheers



Ian



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Ian,



Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why you can 
only copy/paste into the same database.



Yes Legacy is Access based.



Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access based as the 
restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases. They are there to 
stop the users corrupting their own files, and should be welcomed.



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/





From: Ian GARDENER 

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Hi,



No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.  I can 
copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files. Specifically:



On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the right 
screen I have myself open in the old database.

In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to the 
clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on the left 
database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter wether I save or 
cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.



So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing, same 
result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the different file in 
the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy accessdb based?). So in 
access database I tried essentially the same thing and same result.





Ian G



From: Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



<>



We must be talking past each other,  because I often use this method within a 
single file and between different files in a split screen. The only requirement 
is that you "save" the  individual information as it currently is, regardless 
of when it was entered. That saved information becomes a template from which 
you can use any piece of information you wish, in any database. I don't know if 
Legacy remembers the  last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. I 
have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in both, and I 
call up split screen, enter the personal information in one database, save it, 
then go to the other database and copy each newly entered information by 
clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this method?

Carl






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Colin Liddell]

Apologies Brian, I sent my message before I realised that you had a copy of
Revo and had the problem in hand and now hopefully all sorted.
Colin.


- Original Message -
From: "Colin Liddell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size


> Brian,
>
> Go to the following website and download the free program Revo uninstaller
> http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html  Once
> installed, first make sure you have saved all your Legacy data and then
> using Revo, uninstall Legacy.
> Once this is done you can then install the latest version of Legacy and
> use
> your backup of Legacy to get going again, hopefully without the problems
> you
> are now experiencing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colin.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Lehman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size
>
>
>>I am running 7.5.0.200,
>> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
>> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
>> find it.
>> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
>> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
>> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
>> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
>> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
>> Don't know what to do now.
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Colin Liddell]

Brian,

Go to the following website and download the free program Revo uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html  Once
installed, first make sure you have saved all your Legacy data and then
using Revo, uninstall Legacy.
Once this is done you can then install the latest version of Legacy and use
your backup of Legacy to get going again, hopefully without the problems you
are now experiencing.

Regards,

Colin.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Lehman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size


>I am running 7.5.0.200,
> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
> find it.
> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Don't know what to do now.
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

I took Ron's advice and installed Legacy again and the program was again
appearing in various program lists.
So I found Legacy in Revo Uninstaller and used the "Forced Uninstall"
feature and successfully removed Legacy,
Then Revo suggested to run a scan to remove the residuals of Legacy
after the uninstall.
Did that and I couldn't find Legacy anywhere. It was gone, finally!
(other than the files and folders that Sherry suggested to keep).
Now I downloaded a new and current copy of Legacy from the website and
restored my data from a back up.
All seems well with my data base and I have to re due some
customizations/personalizations, but not all.
My original problem involved Legacy screens not holding the size I set,
so time will tell if that problem is solved,
but at least I have a clean copy of Legacy and my data base restored.
Thanks to everyone for there advice,
Take Care,
Brian





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[LegacyUG] Changes of name

[Tony Rolfe]

Thanks, Brian

That sounds the best approach.

Cheers

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[JLB]

True, it does work with a smaller selection. Looks really good too with
the photos.

You're right, there is no way to tag marriages except one at a time. I
also have MRIN's in the User ID field (using LTools) so this would be a
quicker way of tagging.

It would make more sense to leave out people who are not married as that
creates a lot of duplicate records and it would shorten the report.
---
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On 6/24/2012 4:53 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> I tried to duplicate your problem with my personal file which has about
> 5,400 people. It only took 3810 pages so the file was created for me.
> The final file size was only 7MB for my report. I tried again but this
> time I added pictures, the file still was created.
>
> You may be running into a file size limit for our PDF Creator. You may
> have to make multiple files to get FGS reports for everyone in your
> file. You can use a Focus Group or Tagging to define a sub set of your
> file, create a PDF for that group then make another for the remainder.
> Not as convenient as a single PDF file with everyone but still a way to
> get everyone done. Looking at the options on the record selection screen
> I see that you can create a report for all marriages with a certain tag.
> I could not find a quick way to tag a group of MRINs however so you may
> have to go through your entire Marriage List tagging each one manually.
> If you set different tag numbers you could divide your file into three
> groups for report purposes
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 24/06/2012 16:49, JLB wrote:
>> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
>
>> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
>> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
>> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>>
>> JL Beeken



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ron Ferguson]

MessageIan,

I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the impression 
that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the split screen you can 
copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Ian GARDENER
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

Hi,



Agreed.



However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with different 
databases/files no worries at all, it’s a classic use of db. This is blocked in 
the Legacy front end.





Cheers



Ian



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Ian,



Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why you can 
only copy/paste into the same database.



Yes Legacy is Access based.



Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access based as the 
restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases. They are there to 
stop the users corrupting their own files, and should be welcomed.



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/





From: Ian GARDENER

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



Hi,



No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.  I can 
copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files. Specifically:



On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the right 
screen I have myself open in the old database.

In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to the 
clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on the left 
database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter wether I save or 
cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.



So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing, same 
result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the different file in 
the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy accessdb based?). So in 
access database I tried essentially the same thing and same result.





Ian G



From: Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



<>



We must be talking past each other,  because I often use this method within a 
single file and between different files in a split screen. The only requirement 
is that you "save" the  individual information as it currently is, regardless 
of when it was entered. That saved information becomes a template from which 
you can use any piece of information you wish, in any database. I don't know if 
Legacy remembers the  last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. I 
have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in both, and I 
call up split screen, enter the personal information in one database, save it, 
then go to the other database and copy each newly entered information by 
clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this method?

Carl






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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Brian/Support]

I tried to duplicate your problem with my personal file which has about
5,400 people. It only took 3810 pages so the file was created for me.
The final file size was only 7MB for my report. I tried again but this
time I added pictures, the file still was created.

You may be running into a file size limit for our PDF Creator. You may
have to make multiple files to get FGS reports for everyone in your
file. You can use a Focus Group or Tagging to define a sub set of your
file, create a PDF for that group then make another for the remainder.
Not as convenient as a single PDF file with everyone but still a way to
get everyone done. Looking at the options on the record selection screen
I see that you can create a report for all marriages with a certain tag.
I could not find a quick way to tag a group of MRINs however so you may
have to go through your entire Marriage List tagging each one manually.
If you set different tag numbers you could divide your file into three
groups for report purposes

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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On 24/06/2012 16:49, JLB wrote:
> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>
> JL Beeken
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[LegacyUG] Installing Legacy 7.5.0.200

[RHS Consulting]

I merely want to add the experience I gained with the installation of the
new Legacy 7.5.0.200 update.  There really isn't much to tell.  I downloaded
the updated version from the website and overinstalled it on top of my
existing version.  It accepted it without any complications.  The 89kb
Install.log file is also in place.  All file folders and databases are in
place and functioning.  Unless directed otherwise, I always overinstall
updates or upgrades.  Occasionally, I am being told that the old version
needs to be uninstalled first.  This requirement is usually being performed
automatically by the program.  I am sorry to read about the many-facetted
problems our readers are experiencing.  I am using XP Pro / SP3 on a
6-year-old custom-built machine with 4GB RAM and 2X350GB Drives.

Richard


- Original Message -
From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

On 24/06/2012 17:56, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I am running 7.5.0.200,
> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
> find it.
> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Don't know what to do now.

Is your problem just that Legacy doesn't uninstall at all or that when
it uninstalls it leaves behind a few vestiges of its presence, such as
an entry in the Program List?

--
Jenny M Benson


Jenny,

When the uninstall.log file is missing it will not uninstall at all.

Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[JLB]

Why wouldn't merging work? Just merge what you want. I'm working with
exported files from a cousin's database. I'm dragging and dropping one
person at a time. That takes me to the merge window where I decide what
I want to add to my main database. If I only wanted the events I think I
could do that.

JL Beeken
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On 6/24/2012 4:09 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Hi and thanks for the reply.
>
> Cutting and pasting text isn’t the issue. What I’m trying to achieve is
> cutting and pasting entire events between files open in split screens.
> Within the same file I can create a “template” of an event and for
> example, assign it to myself, my siblings & my parents.
>
> I am starting a new database/family file which I open in the left screen
> & I have my old database open in the right screen (split view) as the
> reference. I would like to either:
>
> (a)Be able to copy/template an event, source, etc from the right screen
> old db, to the left screen new db. This doesn’t work, I suspect due to
> access database file locking as someone else mentioned.
>
> ..OR
>
> (b)Run 2 instances of Legacy so I can keep the event detail open in the
> right screen while I transcribe it to the left screen. Running one
> instance of Legacy means that Legacy/Access is forcing me to close one
> database before accessing the other. All that really remains on the non
> current screen is a placeholder image.
>
> Obviously I could achieve this with two computers but I really don’t
> want to buy another and importing or merging is not an option for me.
> For numerous reasons the old database can only be considered as the
> thought starter for me. Imagine it was written by my dead grandmother
> while she was drunk and actually thought she was following the horse races J
>
> *From:*Michel Lacoursiere [mailto:lacoume...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 3:21 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> 1) Yes,Legacy is Access based. Legacy is just the interface that allow
> you to add,delete, update,view etc... the informations
>
> in the Access database. A database for a Family file has 29 tables in
> the latest update and a table like the Individual Records
>
> table has over 110 columns and as many rows as you have individuals in
> your file.
>
> 2) For the Window Clipboard, Legacy is not different than any other
> Window program. If you can highlight text, right click, Cut or Copy
>
> you will be able to paste the content of the Window Clipboard into any
> field in Legacy whether it comes from the same Family file, another
>
> Family file or a completely different program (eg.text on a web page,
> text from a text file, a cell from an Excel file etc...). The same
>
> goes true for the reverse. If you highlight a field in Legacy then right
> click, Copy you will be able to paste the content of the field
>
> into any program that accept it or any other field in Legacy if you do
> not go over the number of characters limit of the field.
>
> If you are having problems with Copy/Paste it is not related to Legacy
> there must be something in your dual screen setting
>
> that is not correct. I might be able to help you more later this week
> since I intend to go dual screen too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michel Lacoursiere
>
> lacoume...@yahoo.com 
>
> Hi,
>
> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another. I
> can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files.
> Specifically:
>
> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the
> right screen I have myself open in the old database.
>
> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to
> the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on
> the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter
> wether I save or cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE
> EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
>
> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing,
> same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the
> different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy
> accessdb based?). So in access database I tried essentially the same
> thing and same result.
>
> Ian G
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ian GARDENER]

Hi,

Tried option 1 (although not with paf, I'll try that), Export gedcom, import to 
new program, but so far they all seem to lose event detail in the process. Even 
though I have all export options on and all privacy off. Is there a program 
that can directly import the legacy file?

Notepad works but cutting and pasting all text for thousands of events is 
scary, my brain would freeze & I'll turn into a politician :)


Regards

Ian

-Original Message-
From: Virginia Dunham [mailto:geistdn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

Ian,

I can only think of two options for you:

1) download a "freebie" genealogy program (such as PAF) and export the "bad" 
file to it...then you could run both Legacy and the freebie program next to one 
another. Maybe another member could suggest some other freebie programs to use.

2) or have a program such as Notepad opened and copy from the bad file...paste 
to Notepad...then cut and paste from there to your "good"
file.

Virginia



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Re: [LegacyUG] WHAT is REALLY the current build?????

[Brian/Support]

7.5.0.200 is the latest build. It was issued on 22 Jun 2012. If your
Legacy Home tab still does not show that an update is available click on
the Updates section title bar and have Legacy manually check for an update.

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On 24/06/2012 18:41, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm confused (my wife says that's my natural state J) because if I go to
> legacy page:
>
> 1. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp says current
> build is 7.5.0.200.
>
> 2. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadStep2.asp says I'm about to
> download 7.5.0.200.
>
> 3. The Legacy HOME tab from within the program says 7.5.0.191 is the
> latest build.
>
> So that raises three questions for me. What really is the current build? Why
> the difference depending on where I look? Is 200 a dud that I should be
> avoiding based on the feedback in this forum and is that why the Legacy team
> are choosing (???) to show 191 as current in the home tab?
>
> Okay a fourth question, should I stick my head in the sand until 201 or
> better appears?
>
> Regards
> Ian GARDENER
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Replace of a Master Source

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

I'm not sure I understand the issue either.  Can't you just edit the name of the
old source?

 ~~
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~~
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From: Pat Hickin 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, June 24, 2012 3:08:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Replace of a Master Source

I don't understand you question -- can you be more specific?  All you have to do
is edit the citation and click on the
"all references" option, if I understand you correctly.


Pat


On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Justin Kraynack  wrote:

Is there a way to mass replace a master source with a new master source
>& citationlike the source saved to the clipboard? The master source
>I'd be replacing does not have any citation information.  Thanks!
>
>Justin
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

Well I found Legacy listed in the Program list using Revo Uninstaller
and then I uninstalled legacy.
It is no longer listed in the Revo program list or the program list in
the control panel in Add/remove Programs.
However the Legacy folders, files,shortcuts, all of it, is still where
it was and opening, no media links have been broken,
data appears intact but not sure.
Legacy is not listed in any program list but is still operational.
I'm at a total loss as to how to uninstall Legacy.
I do have the original (several years old), Legacy install disk that I
purchased, if that helps.
Please advise,
Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[JLB]

It looks like it stops. I got up to Page 4297 the second run. And damn!
It was such a good idea.

JL Beeken
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On 6/24/2012 1:55 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> LOL, Sorry JL.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?
>
> Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
> and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
> 4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
> already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?
>
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
>> I have two suggestions:
>>
>> 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
>> your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
>> you can include FGS for individuals as well.
>>
>> 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
>> into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
>> your file as a PDF.
>>
>> To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
>
>> report screen.
>>
>> It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
>> view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
>
>> a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
>> only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
>
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> We are changing the world of genealogy!
>> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
>>> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
>>> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
>>> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
>>> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
>>> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
>>
>>>
>>> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
>>> computer program needed to see the file.
>>>
>>> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
>>> start with?
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Replace of a Master Source

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 21:00, Justin Kraynack wrote:
> Is there a way to mass replace a master source with a new master source
> & citationlike the source saved to the clipboard? The master source
> I'd be replacing does not have any citation information.

If you edit the Master Source, when you save your changes you will be
asked if you want to apply the changes to all references to that Master
Source or whether you wish to create a new one.  I presume you do not
wish to retain the original as well as the new one, so you would opt to
apply the changes.

However, you cannot do a mass insertion of the Source Details, these
will have to be added to each record where you have used the relevant
Master Source.  Unfortunately, you cannot use the Source Clipboard to
copy only the Source Details so you can either enter the Detail as
required for each record or you can enter the Detail the first time,
copy the entire Citation to the Source Clipboard then paste it as
require, deleting the Master-Source-wthout-Source-Details version as you
go along.

Should you wish to retain the old Master Source for use at another time
do this:  Make a small change to the Source List Name (such as adding
the word "temp".  Click Save and opt to create a new Master Source.  Now
open the original again and make all the changes you want so it becomes
the new Master Source and this time click Save and opt to apply the
changes.  Now open the "temp" one again, delete the word "temp" from its
name and Save it again.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Ron Ferguson]

LOL, Sorry JL.

Ron Ferguson
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-Original Message-
From: JLB
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?

JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> I have two suggestions:
>
> 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
> your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
> you can include FGS for individuals as well.
>
> 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
> into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
> your file as a PDF.
>
> To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
> report screen.
>
> It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
> view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
> a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
> only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
>> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
>> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
>> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
>> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
>> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
>
>>
>> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
>> computer program needed to see the file.
>>
>> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
>> start with?
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[JLB]

Oooh, I like that first idea. However, after choosing Entire Family File
and some options and PDF file for output it ran til it froze at Page
4296. Does something come next after a requisite period of time (have
already waited 15 minutes) or is this where it stops?

JL Beeken
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http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 6/24/2012 1:24 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> I have two suggestions:
>
> 1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
> your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
> you can include FGS for individuals as well.
>
> 2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
> into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
> your file as a PDF.
>
> To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
> report screen.
>
> It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
> view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
> a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
> only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
>> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
>> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
>> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
>> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
>> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
>
>>
>> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
>> computer program needed to see the file.
>>
>> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
>> start with?
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Brian/Support]

I have two suggestions:

1. You can create a set of Family Group Sheets (FGS) for everyone in
your file as a single PDF file. These will show each family group and
you can include FGS for individuals as well.

2. If you are not as concerned about linking the people in your file
into families you can also create Individual Reports for everyone in
your file as a PDF.

To select everyone in your file click the record selection button on the
report screen.

It is not quite true that these will not require a computer program, to
view the PDF files you need Adobe Reader or other programs that can read
a PDF file but you also need a program to read a .doc or .rtf file. The
only records that do not need a computer program are hard copy on paper.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
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On 23/06/2012 21:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life,
> there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone in my
> family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone, including all
> the people around the world that are connected in some way to my family.
>
> By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a
> computer program needed to see the file.
>
> Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I
> start with?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Changes of name

[Brian/Support]

You can add multiple names but you cannot attach a date or a date range
to these.

If you want to have the change appear in the person's chronology/reports
you could create a name change event which specifies when the person
adopted the new name.

Brian
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On 24/06/2012 05:33, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> No I'm not!
>
> I'm asking if Legacy can allow me to enter multiple names for a person
> and specify date ranges for which these names can be used.
>
> Not a hard thing to do but, I suspect, not currently possible.
>
> Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mass Replace of a Master Source

[Pat Hickin]

I don't understand you question -- can you be more specific?  All you have
to do is edit the citation and click on the
"all references" option, if I understand you correctly.

Pat

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Justin Kraynack  wrote:

> Is there a way to mass replace a master source with a new master source
> & citationlike the source saved to the clipboard? The master source
> I'd be replacing does not have any citation information.  Thanks!
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

I have Revo Uninstaller, I'll run it soon,
right know I have to devote my attention to my wife.
Soon as I can, I'll be back to tell how Revo worked out.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Ron Bernier]

Brian,

To fully uninstall Legacy, download Revo uninstaller (there is a free
version).  Because you have a partial uninstall, you will need to reinstall
the latest version of Legacy before you can use Revo.  i never use the
Windows uninstall option to remove unwanted programs.  Windows has a habit
of leaving more garbage behind than what it removes.

On Sunday, June 24, 2012, Tim Rosenlof wrote:

> On 6/24/2012 11:53 AM, Brian Lehman wrote:
> > I have used the uninstall program that's in the Legacy folder, several
> > times,
> > I always get the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> > Brian
>
> This is a known bug.  It has been reported many times. Those that have
> access to Mantis that are following this thread, please look at issue
> 0003474. Make sure you scroll down to the bottom of the comments.
>
> Tim Rosenlof
> Beta tester and former employee of Millennia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 20:03, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> When the uninstall.log file is missing it will not uninstall at all.

Yes, I was aware of that, but I wasn't entirely clear from Brian's
description (must confess to not having read the entire thread) whether
or not some *some* uninstalling had taken place and only after that was
the install.log not present.  I understand now that that is not the case.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 6/24/2012 11:53 AM, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I have used the uninstall program that's in the Legacy folder, several
> times,
> I always get the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Brian

This is a known bug.  It has been reported many times. Those that have
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0003474. Make sure you scroll down to the bottom of the comments.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

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I have the whole Legacy folder left and Legacy opens and works fine.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

On 24/06/2012 17:56, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I am running 7.5.0.200,
> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
> find it.
> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Don't know what to do now.

Is your problem just that Legacy doesn't uninstall at all or that when
it uninstalls it leaves behind a few vestiges of its presence, such as
an entry in the Program List?

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Jenny,

When the uninstall.log file is missing it will not uninstall at all.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

Legacy recommend a way of doing this which if I remember correctly involves
deleting everything in your Legacy folder except your data file, and any usr
files you may wish to save.

I don't like this method, so it is not my recommendation and comes with a
health warning. Personally, I make changes in the Register first, but I am
not willing to publish this method, as changing the register can be
extremely damaging if not done properly.

Hopefully Legacy will jump in.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lehman
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

I am running 7.5.0.200,
Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
find it.
Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
Don't know what to do now.
Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] Chronology

[Pam Purol]

thanks



  _

From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Chronology



For it to show in the chronology view, your censuses must be entered as
events.



Michele







From: Pam Purol [mailto:ppu...@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Chronology



Does anyone know how to get the census listings from the assigned sources
list to appear on the chronology?

Pam



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 17:56, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I am running 7.5.0.200,
> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
> find it.
> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Don't know what to do now.

Is your problem just that Legacy doesn't uninstall at all or that when
it uninstalls it leaves behind a few vestiges of its presence, such as
an entry in the Program List?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children out of order

[Debbie Freeman]

Hello Ron,

Yes. You were right. Sorry about this. I figured out that the child had two
sets of parents. A set of Ghost parents I guess it is called. I had done a
copy of one GEDCOM file to another GEDCOM file. I disconnected the extra
set. All is well now. I am in the process of merging the extra people in my
file. All seems to be fine now.

Thank you for everyone's help,
Debbie Freeman



Ron Ferguson wrote:

Debbie,

That can, and should, happen when you have at least one of the parents
having had a child with another person, if you click on that child then it
will show the true parents and their kids will be at the top of the list.

If that is not the situation you may have a ghost marriage to which the
child is attached, so you need to check for this (View>Marriage List).
Otherwise, try File>File Maintenance>Check Repair.

Ron Ferguson


Debbie Freeman wrote:

Hello List,

I downloaded the latest version .200 and now need to ask. Does anyone else
have this trouble? When I go to from the family to a particular child, and
then return to the family the child I looked, is then at the top of the list
of the children. So out of order of birth. I then tried to sort the order of
children. It does not work. Only the child I looked at comes on the child
list. I then close Legacy, and reopen Legacy which seems to solve the
problem?

Thank You,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

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The main Legacy folder is in C: drive.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Children out of order

[Ron Ferguson]

Debbie,

That can, and should, happen when you have at least one of the parents
having had a child with another person, if you click on that child then it
will show the true parents and their kids will be at the top of the list.

If that is not the situation you may have a ghost marriage to which the
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Otherwise, try File>File Maintenance>Check Repair.

Ron Ferguson
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-Original Message-
From: Debbie Freeman
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 6:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Children out of order

Hello List,

I downloaded the latest version .200 and now need to ask. Does anyone else
have this trouble? When I go to from the family to a particular child, and
then return to the family the child I looked, is then at the top of the list
of the children. So out of order of birth. I then tried to sort the order of
children. It does not work. Only the child I looked at comes on the child
list. I then close Legacy, and reopen Legacy which seems to solve the
problem?

Thank You,
Debbie Freeman

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Michel Lacoursiere]

Well we are getting somewhere, I can't uninstall too :-)
 
Where did you intall Legacy? In C:/ Program Files or like me in another folder?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

Tim,
I'm sorry, I don't understand, the computer screen resolution, Legacy
screen resolution?
How can I find what you ask?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 6/18/2012 11:23 AM, Brian Lehman wrote:
> Hello,
> Several months ago, I posted a question about a problem I was having
> with Legacy window screens not holding their size.
> The fix for this was suggested to delete the  Legacy2.USR file in the
> Legacy folder.
> Deleting this file does indeed cause the Legacy screens to keep the
> sizes I set..for a period of time.
> Sometimes for an hour, or the next day, my screens all reduce to a
> consistent small size, almost like a default size.
> I'm not doing anything unusual, just routine Legacy data entry.
> I run frequent file maintenance, frequent meaning sometimes up to 4-8
> times a day, depending how Legacy is performing.
> Could running file maintenance to often be a problem?
> The jpg's I have attached, some are about 1-2 MB, most are smaller, some
> get in that are quite large,
> with these large jpg's, I've noticed that the screens take longer to
> open and display,
> could large jpg's cause all the screens to forget their sizes and revert
> to a smaller default?
> I'd appreciate any advise,
> Thanks and take care,
> Brian Lehman
Ooops,

I replied to the wrong post. Here is the original post.

Brian, question one, what resolution do you use ? Then Question two. :)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 6/24/2012 10:56 AM, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I am running 7.5.0.200,
> Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
> In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
> find it.
> Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
> It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
> when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
> I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
> that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
> Don't know what to do now.
> Brian
Brian, one question. What screen resolution are you using ? Then I will
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RE: [LegacyUG] Children out of order

[Sheila Maynard]

Debbie,
As yet the only problem I have found since this update is at least half my 
photos have disappeared from Legacy, now in the middle of having to reattach 
them, all takes time. Would check all yours didn’t realise at first.
Sheila

-Original Message-
From: Debbie Freeman [mailto:dfs...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 24 June 2012 19:42
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Children out of order

Hello List,

I downloaded the latest version .200 and now need to ask. Does anyone else have 
this trouble? When I go to from the family to a particular child, and then 
return to the family the child I looked, is then at the top of the list of the 
children. So out of order of birth. I then tried to sort the order of children. 
It does not work. Only the child I looked at comes on the child list. I then 
close Legacy, and reopen Legacy which seems to solve the problem?

Thank You,
Debbie Freeman

Win 7, 64 bit, Legacy's latest built.













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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

I have used the uninstall program that's in the Legacy folder, several
times,
I always get the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
Brian



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[LegacyUG] Children out of order

[Debbie Freeman]

Hello List,

I downloaded the latest version .200 and now need to ask. Does anyone else
have this trouble? When I go to from the family to a particular child, and
then return to the family the child I looked, is then at the top of the list
of the children. So out of order of birth. I then tried to sort the order of
children. It does not work. Only the child I looked at comes on the child
list. I then close Legacy, and reopen Legacy which seems to solve the
problem?

Thank You,
Debbie Freeman

Win 7, 64 bit, Legacy's latest built.






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[LegacyUG] Chronology

[Pam Purol]

Does anyone know how to get the census listings from the assigned sources
list to appear on the chronology?

Pam




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Dwight Shubert]

Can you not use the uninstall program that's in the Legacy folder. That's how I 
corrected my problem.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[edshubert]

Did you use the uninsured program that comes with Legacy. I have had other 
programs that stayed in the list and don't know why..

--Original Message--
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Sender: Brian Lehman
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size
Sent: Jun 24, 2012 11:14 AM

I installed the current version on top of mine from the website. I'm now
running Legacy 7.5.0.200.
I again tried to delete using the control panel, run through the wizard,
progress bar advances and the wizard completes,
however the Legacy program is not deleted from my program list.
When I try to uninstall again, I get the same message,"Can not open
Install.Log file".
Any ideas on how to remove the Legacy program?
Thanks
Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Michel Lacoursiere]

Hi Ian,
 
1) Yes,Legacy is Access based. Legacy is just the interface that allow you to 
add,delete, update,view etc... the informations
in the Access database. A database for a Family file has 29 tables in the 
latest update and a table like the Individual Records
table has over 110 columns and as many rows as you have individuals in your 
file.
 
2) For the Window Clipboard, Legacy is not different than any other Window 
program. If you can highlight text, right click, Cut or Copy
you will be able to paste the content of the Window Clipboard into any field in 
Legacy whether it comes from the same Family file, another
Family file or a completely different program (eg.text on a web page, text from 
a text file, a cell from an Excel file etc...). The same
goes true for the reverse. If you highlight a field in Legacy then right click, 
Copy you will be able to paste the content of the field
into any program that accept it or any other field in Legacy if you do not go 
over the number of characters limit of the field.
 
If you are having problems with Copy/Paste it is not related to Legacy there 
must be something in your dual screen setting
that is not correct. I might be able to help you more later this week since I 
intend to go dual screen too.
 
Regards,
 
Michel Lacoursiere
lacoume...@yahoo.com

Hi,
 
No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.  I can 
copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files. Specifically:
 
On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the right 
screen I have myself open in the old database.
In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to the 
clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on the left 
database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter wether I save or 
cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.
 
So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing, same 
result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the different file in 
the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy accessdb based?). So in 
access database I tried essentially the same thing and same result.
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

I am running 7.5.0.200,
Overwrote my version with a standard version from the web site.
In the Legacy folder, I looked for the Install.Log file but couldn't
find it.
Then I try to uninstall from the control panel again.
It goes through the wizard and looks like it is deleting,
when complete, Legacy again still listed in the Program List.
I try again, to delete using Add/Remove Programs,
that's when I receive the message, "Can not open Install.Log file".
Don't know what to do now.
Brian





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Michel Lacoursiere]

Hi Brian,

Since the latest Legacy update is now 7.5.0.200 download this last update.
If you can't uninstall Legacy because the Install.Log file is missing or is
corrupted downloading the latest update will create a new Install.Log file
if it is missing or overwrite an existing one if it is corrupted.
( BTW, "Uninstall Legacy 7.0","Uninstall Legacy 7.4" and  "Uninstall Legacy 7.5"
are only shortcut to the UNWISE.exe file wich is the file that allow you to 
uninstall
Legacy.)

For the Legacy2.usr file which is giving  you problems just go to your Legacy
folder and delete it. When opening Legacy a new Legacy2.usr file will be create
with the defaults setting, you will have to reset the personnal setting that the
file was holding.

Regards,

Michel Lacoursiere
lacoume...@yahoo.com


Hello,
I think I have a problem. I tried to do an uninstall following the given
instructions.
First I tried to uninstall by using the file in the Legacy folder,
"Uninstall Legacy 7.5"
(there are also files Uninstall Legacy 7.0 and Uninstall Legacy 7.4).I
might have tried Uninstall Legacy 7.0 first.
It didn't uninstall, I received the message,"Can not open Install.Log file.
I then tried to remove it via the control panel, Add/Remove Programs and
got the same message.
I did a restart on my computer and ran the removal process again with
the same results.
I'm running Legacy 7.5.0.191 on Windows 7, 64 bit.
I had nothing else open at the time, and my data base is intact.
Right now, I cant delete the program.
I could really use some help.
Thanks,
Brian Lehman


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

I installed the current version on top of mine from the website. I'm now
running Legacy 7.5.0.200.
I again tried to delete using the control panel, run through the wizard,
progress bar advances and the wizard completes,
however the Legacy program is not deleted from my program list.
When I try to uninstall again, I get the same message,"Can not open
Install.Log file".
Any ideas on how to remove the Legacy program?
Thanks
Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

Firstly try installing on top and see if that puts in the missing log file.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lehman
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

Hello,
I think I have a problem. I tried to do an uninstall following the given
instructions.
First I tried to uninstall by using the file in the Legacy folder,
"Uninstall Legacy 7.5"
(there are also files Uninstall Legacy 7.0 and Uninstall Legacy 7.4).I
might have tried Uninstall Legacy 7.0 first.
It didn't uninstall, I received the message,"Can not open Install.Log file.
I then tried to remove it via the control panel, Add/Remove Programs and
got the same message.
I did a restart on my computer and ran the removal process again with
the same results.
I'm running Legacy 7.5.0.191 on Windows 7, 64 bit.
I had nothing else open at the time, and my data base is intact.
Right now, I cant delete the program.
I could really use some help.
Thanks,
Brian Lehman






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Virginia Dunham]

Ian,

I can only think of two options for you:

1) download a "freebie" genealogy program (such as PAF) and export the
"bad" file to it...then you could run both Legacy and the freebie
program next to one another. Maybe another member could suggest some
other freebie programs to use.

2) or have a program such as Notepad opened and copy from the bad
file...paste to Notepad...then cut and paste from there to your "good"
file.

Virginia



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Carl Cox]

<>

I was not thinking of 'events', so my comments do not apply.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy2.USR file and Screen size

[Brian Lehman]

Hello,
I think I have a problem. I tried to do an uninstall following the given
instructions.
First I tried to uninstall by using the file in the Legacy folder,
"Uninstall Legacy 7.5"
(there are also files Uninstall Legacy 7.0 and Uninstall Legacy 7.4).I
might have tried Uninstall Legacy 7.0 first.
It didn't uninstall, I received the message,"Can not open Install.Log file.
I then tried to remove it via the control panel, Add/Remove Programs and
got the same message.
I did a restart on my computer and ran the removal process again with
the same results.
I'm running Legacy 7.5.0.191 on Windows 7, 64 bit.
I had nothing else open at the time, and my data base is intact.
Right now, I cant delete the program.
I could really use some help.
Thanks,
Brian Lehman




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

[Ron Ferguson]

MessageIan,

Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is why you can 
only copy/paste into the same database.

Yes Legacy is Access based.

Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access based as the 
restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases. They are there to 
stop the users corrupting their own files, and should be welcomed.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Ian GARDENER
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors

Hi,



No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another.  I can 
copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files. Specifically:



On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on the right 
screen I have myself open in the old database.

In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it to the 
clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), click on the left 
database and the clipboard in now empty. It doesn’t matter wether I save or 
cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY”.



So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same thing, same 
result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click on the different file in 
the other screen. Someone mentioned access (is Legacy accessdb based?). So in 
access database I tried essentially the same thing and same result.





Ian G



From: Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors



<>



We must be talking past each other,  because I often use this method within a 
single file and between different files in a split screen. The only requirement 
is that you "save" the  individual information as it currently is, regardless 
of when it was entered. That saved information becomes a template from which 
you can use any piece of information you wish, in any database. I don't know if 
Legacy remembers the  last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. I 
have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in both, and I 
call up split screen, enter the personal information in one database, save it, 
then go to the other database and copy each newly entered information by 
clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this method?

Carl






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Re: [LegacyUG] Changes of name

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 07:44, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> I have a distant cousin who appears to have changed his name (actually
> dropped the first part of it) during his early teens.  He was born
> Bernard William Smelter Joseph Young and appears as such in the first
> census.  He is at boarding school 10 years later and is known as B W
> Smelter Young.  In all records I can find thereafter, he is simply
> Smelter Joseph Young.
>
> Is there any way to set him up so reports initially use Bernard but
> after a certain date use Smelter?

The nearest you will get to that is to use Smelter as a Quoted Given
Name, ie enter his forenames as Bernard William Smelter Joseph "Smelter."

In Report Options select "Use quoted names for narratives" and "Remove
quoted given names" and the first mention of him in a report will be as
"Bernard William Smelter Joseph Young" with a note that he was "usually
known Smelter" and thereafter he will be referred to as Smelter.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting children by dob

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 02:55, Pat Hickin wrote:
>
> Legacy Help is forever saying  to click on or choose some option,
> without bothering to mention where to find it!!

You need to read the top of the section you are looking at to see what
screen they are talking about.  In the case of sorting children by date
of birth, that whole section commences with

"Editing Children

To reach the Child List, right-click on a child's name from either the
Family or Pedigree View and then choose Children's Settings."


--
Jenny M Benson





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[LegacyUG] Changes of name

[Tony Rolfe]

No I'm not!

I'm asking if Legacy can allow me to enter multiple names for a person
and specify date ranges for which these names can be used.

Not a hard thing to do but, I suspect, not currently possible.

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Jenny M Benson]

On 24/06/2012 02:29, Susan Perrett wrote:
> I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or
> .RTF of the whole of my family file, so that when I depart this
> life, there would be some sort of readable documentation of everyone
> in my family (file). Not just my paternal line but everyone,
> including all the people around the world that are connected in some
> way to my family.
>

I think the only way you could do this is to do a Multiple Lines of
Descent Report.  You would need to find the MRIN of every couple/person
at the top end of every line and enter them in the order you want the
lines to appear in your Report.


--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

[Alan Pereira]

Why a report, why not your whole file via gedcom export.
Take a look at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
The "Submit Your Family Tree To WorldConnect" on the right hand side.
You own the data and you decide what to show and you can remove the data.
The upload and publish will produce 4 views
Index of names
Pedigree
Ahnentafel
Descendancy

If you do choose this option, be careful of what you publish (I suppress source 
Repository as it contains names and addresses of living individuals as well as 
contact details).  You have the option after uploading to review your 
information before publishing as well as taking it offline after publishing or 
just deleting the tree.


Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Susan Perrett [mailto:sus...@st.net.au]
Sent: 24 June 2012 02:29
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Future of my family file?

I would like to be able to create some sort of Report, e.g. .DOC or .RTF of the 
whole of my family file, so that when I depart this life, there would be some 
sort of readable documentation of everyone in my family (file). Not just my 
paternal line but everyone, including all the people around the world that are 
connected in some way to my family.

By doing this I can leave my family history recorded, without a computer 
program needed to see the file.

Is this possible, if so, where would I start? And with whom would I start with?

On my maternal side of the family I have been able to trace back into the 
Scottish kings, via a female line and on my paternal line I have been able to 
get back, via a female line, to King Alfred and further back still, just 
following the line of his. My whole database amounts to 11,314 people, plus 
over 1000 Pictures.

I realise this would amount to probably well in excess of 2000 pages, which I 
would not print out or even edit - I would leave that to some one else in the 
future But at least they would have all the information. I would save it 
all to a CD/DVD to distribute to various people/libraries around the world etc.

With regards,

Susan Perrett
Melbourne, Australia
English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html
American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp>
Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, 
CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, 
OXENDEN-Kent, All.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Changes of name

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/06/24 08:44, Tony Rolfe wrote:

> Is there any way to set him up so reports initially use Bernard but after a
> certain date use Smelter?

'Fraid not! What you're asking is for a database program to write your Family
History for you.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg





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