RE: [LegacyUG] Apologies - another question.
Hi, No I can achieve that just by making the last field date at death. I'm wanting to display their current age if still alive. Cheers Ian GARDENER -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 12:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Apologies - another question. Ian, In Family View, say you have the default Death Cause as a core event, click on it, choose Customise, and then you can select what field you want to display from a drop down list activated by clicking on the button next to the Death Cause. Is that what you wanted? Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Apologies - another question. Hi, I seem to recall reading (some time ago) that there is a way to show a person’s current age in family view and I “think” age at death if not living. I’ve searched the help file without success. Am I correct or has this old brain let me down again? Cheers Ian GARDENER Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Apologies - another question.
Ian GARDENER wrote: I seem to recall reading (some time ago) that there is a way to show a person's current age in family view and I think age at death if not living. I've searched the help file without success. Am I correct or has this old brain let me down again? The only place a person's age is shown, whether still living or not, is on the individual's screen as far as I know. If the person has died, it gives their age at death but their overall age still keeps increasing year on year. If I understand correctly (and that's not guaranteed since I am very tired right now), you would like to have a field in the family view for the person's age or to have it appear beside the person's name or data as it does in the individual screen? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Hi Rich I too would be interested to know how you have done it, just tried it myself and was curious how you bypassed the restrictions on the automatic male/female when you add the “husband/wife” to the person. Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ Many thanks, Jemima From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2012 01:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, Yes please. By all accounts it’s not possible but people find a way ☺ Cheers Ian GARDENER From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 4:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hello I also have some openly gay members in my family, and when I added my sister in law and her partner I was able to list both as female, and I listed them as married as they had a civil marriage. then I listed that they had no children It was pretty simple for me to add her and my other gay family If you have trouble perhaps I can re investigate how I added them and pass my findings on to you. Kindest regards, Rich From: Ian GARDENER ijg3...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, I’ve come across a living relative who would like to be included in the family tree, she is openly gay would like her life partner acknowledged too. How is this best achieved in Legacy? If I input a spouse it demands that it be male. They are not actually married as its not legal here but I cannot even show them as defacto. For the sake of the question assume they DO have a child (I’m not sure yet). Second question- she has had three surnames. Her birth name, her acquired surname from a very young age her “married” name. Is there any way to order these correctly? Pity there’s no way to make individual notes against each surname. Cheers Ian GARDENER Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201
Judith, Glad to hear that everything is now back to normal. Your experiences emphasise far more than an instruction book could, the importance of regularly doing PC housekeeping. Often we see comments, or recommendations to switch the PC off, leave it for a short while, and switch on again in order to resolve a problem. I know because I make such suggestions myself! But it should also be taken as an indication that the PC is becoming full of garbage, and a good clean up is needed. I hope other users will take note. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Judith Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Ron, thanks so much for the information, no Firefox, Windows 7, but after many repairs etc., I deleted the printer and everything went back to normal, opening instantly and closing perfectly. Maybe this will help someone else along the line. I love Legacy, so I'm very happy to have it functioning again, except I've lost a whole days work on Sourcing! Oh and I have a very clean updated computer. Thanks again, Judith -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Judith, I have just had a couple of other thoughts. Do you use Firefox by any chance as the latest, and last few, versions eat up RAM. I would also run Task Manager (ctrl+alt+del) immediately after start up to see if there are any clues there. Also check the programs which are opening at start-up, you may find some have decided that they have a right to be there, even if you don't! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Judith Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Don't know r/quick start, I start Legacy from the start menu, and as I said all programs on my computer were working great till yesterday, and yes I checked my anti-virus and all is well. Since yesterday, Word is taking over a minute to open and Legacy is taking 1 min., 40 seconds to open. I have done all the diagnostics on Legacy and cleaned my computer, disk check and all and can't seem to find the problem. Word and Legacy are the only slow starters. Help! Judith -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 *From:* Judith mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:44 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Problem is slow startup for Legacy update 201. As of yesterday, 7-7, it’s taking a full minute to open. Any thoughts? Microsoft Word is also slow to open, but none of the other Microsoft applications are, Excel opens instantly. Word is always open when using Legacy, if this helps. I’m have Windows 7 and Microsoft Office 2007. And you've probably got QuickStart loaded for Office. Sort of unfair advantage when comparing Office to Legacy :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I seem to recollect that when a file is imported from a same sex relationship, the sexes are retained. I cannot be certain, but I would think that if the two people are exported to a GEDCOM, the sex of one changed in Notepad, then use the GEDCOM to replace the Legacy records, then this may work. I emphasise that I am uncertain about this, but it can do no harm to try! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: ArdenholmeGenealogy Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:14 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi Rich I too would be interested to know how you have done it, just tried it myself and was curious how you bypassed the restrictions on the automatic male/female when you add the “husband/wife†to the person. Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ Many thanks, Jemima From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2012 01:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, Yes please. By all accounts it’s not possible but people find a way ☺ Cheers Ian GARDENER From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 4:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hello I also have some openly gay members in my family, and when I added my sister in law and her partner I was able to list both as female, and I listed them as married as they had a civil marriage. then I listed that they had no children It was pretty simple for me to add her and my other gay family If you have trouble perhaps I can re investigate how I added them and pass my findings on to you. Kindest regards, Rich From: Ian GARDENER ijg3...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, I’ve come across a living relative who would like to be included in the family tree, she is openly gay would like her life partner acknowledged too. How is this best achieved in Legacy? If I input a spouse it demands that it be male. They are not actually married as its not legal here but I cannot even show them as defacto. For the sake of the question assume they DO have a child (I’m not sure yet). Second question- she has had three surnames. Her birth name, her acquired surname from a very young age her “married†name. Is there any way to order these correctly? Pity there’s no way to make individual notes against each surname. Cheers Ian GARDENER Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships.
ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote: Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ I wouldn't want to see Legacy changed in such a way that same sex relationships were regarded at the norm. Perhaps Partner 1 and Partner 2 could be the normal with options to customise with Male/Female, Husband/Wife, etc. This could also cover relationships where a male/female couple aren't/don't marry but the date on which they got together to form a family unit is wanted. I know there is a box that can be checked to indicate a couple didn't marry but it isn't immediately obvious they didn't, esp if a date is also included. There's also the instances where there's an illegitimate child and an alleged father. Something else I would like to see is the dropping of Unknown for the father where a child is illegitimate together with the indication the mother had had a relationship with the child's father. Rather than include all the various options as standard and thus making Legacy ungainly and bloated, it might be better (from my point of view) to simplify it but allow customisation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ref: Wall Charts
On 07/07/2012 14:54, Ron Ferguson wrote: It is not uncommon for family reunions, which serves not only to show how someone may fit into the family, but also allows them to fill in the gaps. I am seriously thinking of having one done for my next birthday with a zero in it (I'm ever optimistic :-)). It's when you're having to think of having 2 zeroes in it that you have to worry! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] help needed with backup error
On 09/07/2012 02:57, Ian GARDENER wrote: I can’t help with a solution but this may point someone in the right direction. Error 506 is a runtime error. The 506 error code is used in both widows 7 access database. Got that from a programmer friend but he didn’t recall much else. Ian G May help, may not J *From:*Dede Holden [mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, 9 July 2012 8:13 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] help needed with backup error I am having trouble with a multimedia backup. I have been using Legacy for several years. I have the most recent update, 7.5.0.201. I am using Windows 7. The data backup proceeds normally. The multimedia backup proceeds for awhile and then stops and I receive this message: Backup Error 506: Cannot write to Temp File. I have performed all the standard fixes. I have done the File Maintenance/Check Repair/Compact File. I have rebooted the computer. I have defragged. I have cleaned the registry. I have tried different backup locations. I normally backup to an external hard drive. It shows 297GB Capacity, used space 49.2GB and 248GB Free Space. I also tried backing up to my computer hard drive. The backup stops on different files each time. I went to the archives and searched for anything related to this error and cannot find anything. I also cannot find this Error number on the Legacy List of Error messages. This problem started about 3 weeks ago. The only thing that has changed since then is an update to my Norton 360. I even tried disabling the firewall and doing the backup. Still the same problem. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there something I haven't tried? You indicate that there is plenty of free space on the external drive to which you are backing up, but the temporary files are probably written to your main (C:) drive where Windows is installed. How much space is there on that? If there's plenty then I can't help you any further! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RC3 at end of backup
On 09/07/2012 00:55, Marianne Szabo wrote: For the last two days when I back up my family file, it starts with the designation of .fdb at the end, but by the time it’s finished it says “~rc3rc3†or something like that. It disappears so fast, I can’t write it down. When I open the database, everything appears to be OK. I save my backup copy to a thumb drive. I keep 6 copies of the most recent dates. When you use Legacy's own backup it backs up to a zip file. In that file it puts all the individual files it backs up which include your family file (.fdb) and several other files with extensions like .fg, .nc, .rc3, .rgd, .tc). -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
From Family View, Ctrl + a -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/9/2012 5:29 AM, Michele Lewis wrote: Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Apologies - another question.
Ctrl + A -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/8/2012 7:46 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: Hi, I seem to recall reading (some time ago) that there is a way to show a person’s current age in family view and I “think†age at death if not living. I’ve searched the help file without success. Am I correct or has this old brain let me down again? Cheers Ian GARDENER Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201
How are going to print now if you deleted the printer ? -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/8/2012 10:29 PM, Judith wrote: Ron, thanks so much for the information, no Firefox, Windows 7, but after many repairs etc., I deleted the printer and everything went back to normal, opening instantly and closing perfectly. Maybe this will help someone else along the line. I love Legacy, so I'm very happy to have it functioning again, except I've lost a whole days work on Sourcing! Oh and I have a very clean updated computer. Thanks again, Judith -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Judith, I have just had a couple of other thoughts. Do you use Firefox by any chance as the latest, and last few, versions eat up RAM. I would also run Task Manager (ctrl+alt+del) immediately after start up to see if there are any clues there. Also check the programs which are opening at start-up, you may find some have decided that they have a right to be there, even if you don't! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Judith Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Don't know r/quick start, I start Legacy from the start menu, and as I said all programs on my computer were working great till yesterday, and yes I checked my anti-virus and all is well. Since yesterday, Word is taking over a minute to open and Legacy is taking 1 min., 40 seconds to open. I have done all the diagnostics on Legacy and cleaned my computer, disk check and all and can't seem to find the problem. Word and Legacy are the only slow starters. Help! Judith -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 *From:* Judith mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:44 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Problem is slow startup for Legacy update 201. As of yesterday, 7-7, it’s taking a full minute to open. Any thoughts? Microsoft Word is also slow to open, but none of the other Microsoft applications are, Excel opens instantly. Word is always open when using Legacy, if this helps. I’m have Windows 7 and Microsoft Office 2007. And you've probably got QuickStart loaded for Office. Sort of unfair advantage when comparing Office to Legacy :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships.
Here is what I do for same sex relationships.It's not perfect but it helps. I enter the same sex partner as the spouse, which of course makes that partner the wrong sex, and then click on marriage information and then click on the Wording Options tab. From there you can at least change the labels in the Family View to whatever you wish Female and Female...Female and Same Sex PartnerWife and Wife, etc. Hope this helps. Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: Charani [mailto:charan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote: Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ I wouldn't want to see Legacy changed in such a way that same sex relationships were regarded at the norm. Perhaps Partner 1 and Partner 2 could be the normal with options to customise with Male/Female, Husband/Wife, etc. This could also cover relationships where a male/female couple aren't/don't marry but the date on which they got together to form a family unit is wanted. I know there is a box that can be checked to indicate a couple didn't marry but it isn't immediately obvious they didn't, esp if a date is also included. There's also the instances where there's an illegitimate child and an alleged father. Something else I would like to see is the dropping of Unknown for the father where a child is illegitimate together with the indication the mother had had a relationship with the child's father. Rather than include all the various options as standard and thus making Legacy ungainly and bloated, it might be better (from my point of view) to simplify it but allow customisation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
What a great tip! I have not seen this beforeI love it! Thanks, Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? From Family View, Ctrl + a -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/9/2012 5:29 AM, Michele Lewis wrote: Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ref: Wall Charts
-Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ref: Wall Charts On 07/07/2012 14:54, Ron Ferguson wrote: It is not uncommon for family reunions, which serves not only to show how someone may fit into the family, but also allows them to fill in the gaps. I am seriously thinking of having one done for my next birthday with a zero in it (I'm ever optimistic :-)). It's when you're having to think of having 2 zeroes in it that you have to worry! -- Jenny M Benson 2 zeros, with my history Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills
'Elizabeth Shown Mills' Web Page: Lots of good stuff on Source and Citing. May help the way you enter data in Legacy. http://www.historicpathways.com/ http://www.historicpathways.com/articles.html I found of interest the writing on the home page, then I went onto articles. I have EE and have been referring to it lately. She is active on a few lists I am on. She has a wealth of information. -- Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills
For those of you who aren't familiar with Elizabeth Shown Mills, EE is her book Evidence Explained, which is the basis for the Source Templates in Legacy. We sell her book as well as the QuickSheet in our online store. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote: 'Elizabeth Shown Mills' Web Page: Lots of good stuff on Source and Citing. May help the way you enter data in Legacy. http://www.historicpathways.com/ http://www.historicpathways.com/articles.html I found of interest the writing on the home page, then I went onto articles. I have EE and have been referring to it lately. She is active on a few lists I am on. She has a wealth of information. -- Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] help needed with backup error
Do you have Legacy installed to the default c:\Legacy folder? Windows7 won't let the program write ot the temp folder if you have Legacy installed to the Program Files folder. If you have Legacy installed correctly, go to Options Customize Locations and make sure the Location of temporary files shows c:\Legacy\Temp. If it doesn't click on the Reset button on the right of the field. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: I am having trouble with a multimedia backup. I have been using Legacy for several years. I have the most recent update, 7.5.0.201. I am using Windows 7. The data backup proceeds normally. The multimedia backup proceeds for awhile and then stops and I receive this message: Backup Error 506: Cannot write to Temp File. I have performed all the standard fixes. I have done the File Maintenance/Check Repair/Compact File. I have rebooted the computer. I have defragged. I have cleaned the registry. I have tried different backup locations. I normally backup to an external hard drive. It shows 297GB Capacity, used space 49.2GB and 248GB Free Space. I also tried backing up to my computer hard drive. The backup stops on different files each time. I went to the archives and searched for anything related to this error and cannot find anything. I also cannot find this Error number on the Legacy List of Error messages. This problem started about 3 weeks ago. The only thing that has changed since then is an update to my Norton 360. I even tried disabling the firewall and doing the backup. Still the same problem. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there something I haven't tried? Thanks Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills
Sherry, Did I see the pdf for sale awhile back ? -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/9/2012 9:10 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: For those of you who aren't familiar with Elizabeth Shown Mills, EE is her book Evidence Explained, which is the basis for the Source Templates in Legacy. We sell her book as well as the QuickSheet in our online store. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tim Rosenlofspa...@xmission.com wrote: 'Elizabeth Shown Mills' Web Page: Lots of good stuff on Source and Citing. May help the way you enter data in Legacy. http://www.historicpathways.com/ http://www.historicpathways.com/articles.html I found of interest the writing on the home page, then I went onto articles. I have EE and have been referring to it lately. She is active on a few lists I am on. She has a wealth of information. -- Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth Shown Mills
Yes and I just checked with Pegi. The PDF version is no longer available. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote: Sherry, Did I see the pdf for sale awhile back ? -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/9/2012 9:10 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: For those of you who aren't familiar with Elizabeth Shown Mills, EE is her book Evidence Explained, which is the basis for the Source Templates in Legacy. We sell her book as well as the QuickSheet in our online store. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201
I will reinstall it and that should do a reset. I think there was a problem with the driver and it also ran out of ink, so the reset should work, guess we'll see. Judith -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 How are going to print now if you deleted the printer ? -- Tim Rosenlof On 7/8/2012 10:29 PM, Judith wrote: Ron, thanks so much for the information, no Firefox, Windows 7, but after many repairs etc., I deleted the printer and everything went back to normal, opening instantly and closing perfectly. Maybe this will help someone else along the line. I love Legacy, so I'm very happy to have it functioning again, except I've lost a whole days work on Sourcing! Oh and I have a very clean updated computer. Thanks again, Judith -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Judith, I have just had a couple of other thoughts. Do you use Firefox by any chance as the latest, and last few, versions eat up RAM. I would also run Task Manager (ctrl+alt+del) immediately after start up to see if there are any clues there. Also check the programs which are opening at start-up, you may find some have decided that they have a right to be there, even if you don't! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Judith Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Don't know r/quick start, I start Legacy from the start menu, and as I said all programs on my computer were working great till yesterday, and yes I checked my anti-virus and all is well. Since yesterday, Word is taking over a minute to open and Legacy is taking 1 min., 40 seconds to open. I have done all the diagnostics on Legacy and cleaned my computer, disk check and all and can't seem to find the problem. Word and Legacy are the only slow starters. Help! Judith -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 *From:* Judith mailto:judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:44 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Slow Startup Version 201 Problem is slow startup for Legacy update 201. As of yesterday, 7-7, it’s taking a full minute to open. Any thoughts? Microsoft Word is also slow to open, but none of the other Microsoft applications are, Excel opens instantly. Word is always open when using Legacy, if this helps. I’m have Windows 7 and Microsoft Office 2007. And you've probably got QuickStart loaded for Office. Sort of unfair advantage when comparing Office to Legacy :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5121 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar Wednesday - The Quest for your English Ancestors
Is this one in addition to the one at 2 p.m. or a change? -- Myrna J --- On Mon, 7/9/12, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote: From: Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Webinar Wednesday - The Quest for your English Ancestors To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 11:51 AM Please join us this Wednesday at a special time (9pm Eastern U.S.) for Claire V. Brisson-Banks' The Quest for your English Ancestors webinar. Register (free) at https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/862577702 See you online! Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia corporationge...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.legacyfamilytree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don't mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Keeping records of online research
Pat Hickin wrote: I no longer visit libraries, courthouses, etc. Almost all of my research is done online. I've never developed a satisfactory method of keeping track of my searches, results,etc., and am wondering what other people do. I use the history to keep track of where I've got to, deleting any sections of the tree I've completed and the general and research notes for what I've found: sources, data, etc. I also have hardcopies of census data on which I scribble notes and which are kept in family units in polypockets in a ring binder. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Michele ... Your directions are fine, but how do you input information into your preferred settings? The 4 default settings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) cannot be changed, thus there is no way to input anything different except Age (which is calculated by Legacy). How/where would you input information into all the entries from the Customize Family View Display? Richard - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Display Age
Just a clarificaiton - this is on the Individual's Information window, not the Family view. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Judith judithsfamilyt...@gmail.com wrote: “I seem to recall reading (some time ago) that there is a way to show a persons current age in family view and I think age at death if not living. I’ve searched the help file without success. Am I correct or has this old brain let me down again?” From the Help File: Age Information Along the right side of the Information screen, at the end of the Born, Chr, Died, and Buried lines, age numbers are displayed. The number for the Born field is the number of years ago the person was born. The other values represent the age at which the event occurred. (If the Born age bothers you, you can turn it off by right-clicking on it. To turn it back on, right-click again.) Judith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
You might check to see how many relationships you have selected to calcuate 10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for non-blood unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled marriages. Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process down. Also, back up the Family File (File Backup Family File) and run File FIle Maintenance Check/Repair before setting or calculating the relationships. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com wrote: Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don’t mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
I think this question has been answered ad nauseam but I'll try too. Right-click in the Family View box for any individual, over to the left of where it says Born/Chr/Died/Buried or whatever you've got there. This will bring up a window called Customize Display. Choose which factors you want showing on the Family View by clicking on the little box of ... Scroll down to where it says 'Age at Death' for one of your choices. Repeat with the other '...' boxes. There's room for five choices altogether. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 12:09 PM, RHS Consulting wrote: Michele ... Your directions are fine, but how do you input information into your preferred settings? The 4 default settings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) cannot be changed, thus there is no way to input anything different except Age (which is calculated by Legacy). How/where would you input information into all the entries from the Customize Family View Display? Richard - Original Message - *From:* Michele Lewis mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2012 4:29 AM *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5121 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
You can change the default settings when you are in Family View. Right click on one of the settings, like Born. A Customize Display page pops up on which you can change any or all of them. Be careful changing though; your change change what is displayed for everyone in your file. CEFrom: rhsconsult...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:09:59 -0700 Michele ... Your directions are fine, but how do you input information into your preferred settings? The 4 default settings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) cannot be changed, thus there is no way to input anything different except Age (which is calculated by Legacy). How/where would you input information into all the entries from the Customize Family View Display? Richard - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Keeping records of online research
Thanks, Charani, There are several things I don't understand -- How do you use the History list?? I see no way to enter info in it. Also when I looked up History List in the Help Index, I was told: To reach the *History* list, click the *small down arrow* between the *Back * and *Frwd* buttons on the left side of the Toolbar. I had no trouble finding the small down arrow to the right of the *Back button/Arrow, *and no trouble accessing the History List,* *but I don't see the *Frwd* button/arrow they referred to. Michele, Can you be more specific bout how you enter searches in your research notes. For example, if you look up 10 different individuals named Smith, do you enter the search you did for each of the ten in each of their individual research notes section? How do you keep track of what you still need to do? . Thanks, Pat On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Charani charan...@gmail.com wrote: Pat Hickin wrote: I no longer visit libraries, courthouses, etc. Almost all of my research is done online. I've never developed a satisfactory method of keeping track of my searches, results,etc., and am wondering what other people do. I use the history to keep track of where I've got to, deleting any sections of the tree I've completed and the general and research notes for what I've found: sources, data, etc. I also have hardcopies of census data on which I scribble notes and which are kept in family units in polypockets in a ring binder. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
I have over 230,000 in my main Legacy database and I set relationships regularly for different people in the file. Works fine. Perhaps you have a few people with circular relationships (they are their own descendant). I usually set the non-blood relationships to zero and the blood relationships to 5. It takes about 2 minutes and 35 seconds. While working the counter shows just above the Set Relationships button. Does your counter show any activity or is it stalled at some point? Ron Taylor --- On Mon, 7/9/12, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 1:11 PM You might check to see how many relationships you have selected to calcuate 10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for non-blood unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled marriages. Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process down. Also, back up the Family File (File Backup Family File) and run File FIle Maintenance Check/Repair before setting or calculating the relationships. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com wrote: Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don’t mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? Outside of the 4 default listings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) into which information can be inputted, I am trying to find out how to input information into any of the other Field Names and then put the Field Name (up to 5) with the inputted information into Family View. Someone please help me. Thanks !!! Richard - Original Message - From: CE WOOD To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? You can change the default settings when you are in Family View. Right click on one of the settings, like Born. A Customize Display page pops up on which you can change any or all of them. Be careful changing though; your change change what is displayed for everyone in your file. CE From: rhsconsult...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:09:59 -0700 Michele ... Your directions are fine, but how do you input information into your preferred settings? The 4 default settings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) cannot be changed, thus there is no way to input anything different except Age (which is calculated by Legacy). How/where would you input information into all the entries from the Customize Family View Display? Richard - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships.
I'll check that out, thanks. -Original Message- From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. Here is what I do for same sex relationships.It's not perfect but it helps. I enter the same sex partner as the spouse, which of course makes that partner the wrong sex, and then click on marriage information and then click on the Wording Options tab. From there you can at least change the labels in the Family View to whatever you wish Female and Female...Female and Same Sex PartnerWife and Wife, etc. Hope this helps. Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: Charani [mailto:charan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote: Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ I wouldn't want to see Legacy changed in such a way that same sex relationships were regarded at the norm. Perhaps Partner 1 and Partner 2 could be the normal with options to customise with Male/Female, Husband/Wife, etc. This could also cover relationships where a male/female couple aren't/don't marry but the date on which they got together to form a family unit is wanted. I know there is a box that can be checked to indicate a couple didn't marry but it isn't immediately obvious they didn't, esp if a date is also included. There's also the instances where there's an illegitimate child and an alleged father. Something else I would like to see is the dropping of Unknown for the father where a child is illegitimate together with the indication the mother had had a relationship with the child's father. Rather than include all the various options as standard and thus making Legacy ungainly and bloated, it might be better (from my point of view) to simplify it but allow customisation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships.
Actually just had a play with it and that will do it for me. Thanks. I don't want to lose too much sleep over this one off item in my file. Cheers -Original Message- From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 11:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. Here is what I do for same sex relationships.It's not perfect but it helps. I enter the same sex partner as the spouse, which of course makes that partner the wrong sex, and then click on marriage information and then click on the Wording Options tab. From there you can at least change the labels in the Family View to whatever you wish Female and Female...Female and Same Sex PartnerWife and Wife, etc. Hope this helps. Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: Charani [mailto:charan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote: Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ I wouldn't want to see Legacy changed in such a way that same sex relationships were regarded at the norm. Perhaps Partner 1 and Partner 2 could be the normal with options to customise with Male/Female, Husband/Wife, etc. This could also cover relationships where a male/female couple aren't/don't marry but the date on which they got together to form a family unit is wanted. I know there is a box that can be checked to indicate a couple didn't marry but it isn't immediately obvious they didn't, esp if a date is also included. There's also the instances where there's an illegitimate child and an alleged father. Something else I would like to see is the dropping of Unknown for the father where a child is illegitimate together with the indication the mother had had a relationship with the child's father. Rather than include all the various options as standard and thus making Legacy ungainly and bloated, it might be better (from my point of view) to simplify it but allow customisation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Based on the workaround web page it looks like running maint will just reverse it. -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 7:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I seem to recollect that when a file is imported from a same sex relationship, the sexes are retained. I cannot be certain, but I would think that if the two people are exported to a GEDCOM, the sex of one changed in Notepad, then use the GEDCOM to replace the Legacy records, then this may work. I emphasise that I am uncertain about this, but it can do no harm to try! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: ArdenholmeGenealogy Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:14 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi Rich I too would be interested to know how you have done it, just tried it myself and was curious how you bypassed the restrictions on the automatic male/female when you add the “husband/wife†to the person. Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ Many thanks, Jemima From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2012 01:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, Yes please. By all accounts it’s not possible but people find a way ☺ Cheers Ian GARDENER From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 4:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hello I also have some openly gay members in my family, and when I added my sister in law and her partner I was able to list both as female, and I listed them as married as they had a civil marriage. then I listed that they had no children It was pretty simple for me to add her and my other gay family If you have trouble perhaps I can re investigate how I added them and pass my findings on to you. Kindest regards, Rich From: Ian GARDENER ijg3...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, I’ve come across a living relative who would like to be included in the family tree, she is openly gay would like her life partner acknowledged too. How is this best achieved in Legacy? If I input a spouse it demands that it be male. They are not actually married as its not legal here but I cannot even show them as defacto. For the sake of the question assume they DO have a child (I’m not sure yet). Second question- she has had three surnames. Her birth name, her acquired surname from a very young age her “married†name. Is there any way to order these correctly? Pity there’s no way to make individual notes against each surname. Cheers Ian GARDENER Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Hi, I'm personally not a big fan of gay marriage but that's just me. As you point out, it is the world we live in and many of us are also recording today's information for future generations and sadly, Legacy is indeed failing to keep up in that regard. -Original Message- From: ArdenholmeGenealogy [mailto:geneal...@ardenholme.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi Rich I too would be interested to know how you have done it, just tried it myself and was curious how you bypassed the restrictions on the automatic male/female when you add the “husband/wife” to the person. Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ Many thanks, Jemima From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2012 01:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, Yes please. By all accounts it’s not possible but people find a way ☺ Cheers Ian GARDENER From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 4:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hello I also have some openly gay members in my family, and when I added my sister in law and her partner I was able to list both as female, and I listed them as married as they had a civil marriage. then I listed that they had no children It was pretty simple for me to add her and my other gay family If you have trouble perhaps I can re investigate how I added them and pass my findings on to you. Kindest regards, Rich From: Ian GARDENER ijg3...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, I’ve come across a living relative who would like to be included in the family tree, she is openly gay would like her life partner acknowledged too. How is this best achieved in Legacy? If I input a spouse it demands that it be male. They are not actually married as its not legal here but I cannot even show them as defacto. For the sake of the question assume they DO have a child (I’m not sure yet). Second question- she has had three surnames. Her birth name, her acquired surname from a very young age her “married” name. Is there any way to order these correctly? Pity there’s no way to make individual notes against each surname. Cheers Ian GARDENER Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships.
I think it needs to default to normal lines as is, ie male husband female wife, that is what will be recorded in nearly every instance. The default is fine as is but an option to change gender would be nice. -Original Message- From: Charani [mailto:charan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 8:07 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage and other non standard relationships. ArdenholmeGenealogy wrote: Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ I wouldn't want to see Legacy changed in such a way that same sex relationships were regarded at the norm. Perhaps Partner 1 and Partner 2 could be the normal with options to customise with Male/Female, Husband/Wife, etc. This could also cover relationships where a male/female couple aren't/don't marry but the date on which they got together to form a family unit is wanted. I know there is a box that can be checked to indicate a couple didn't marry but it isn't immediately obvious they didn't, esp if a date is also included. There's also the instances where there's an illegitimate child and an alleged father. Something else I would like to see is the dropping of Unknown for the father where a child is illegitimate together with the indication the mother had had a relationship with the child's father. Rather than include all the various options as standard and thus making Legacy ungainly and bloated, it might be better (from my point of view) to simplify it but allow customisation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Click the dotdotdot box next to each field name. Choose one from the list that comes up and that is what will show in that position in Family View. You don't have to use Born, Bapt, Died, Buried. Choose what you want in each of the five fields. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 2:02 PM, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? Outside of the 4 default listings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) into which information can be inputted, I am trying to find out how to input information into any of the other Field Names and then put the Field Name (up to 5) with the inputted information into Family View. Someone please help me. Thanks !!! Richard - Original Message - *From:* CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2012 1:42 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? You can change the default settings when you are in Family View. Right click on one of the settings, like Born. A Customize Display page pops up on which you can change any or all of them. Be careful changing though; your change change what is displayed for everyone in your file. CE From: rhsconsult...@comcast.net mailto:rhsconsult...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:09:59 -0700 Michele ... Your directions are fine, but how do you input information into your preferred settings? The 4 default settings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) cannot be changed, thus there is no way to input anything different except Age (which is calculated by Legacy). How/where would you input information into all the entries from the Customize Family View Display? Richard - Original Message - *From:* Michele Lewis mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2012 4:29 AM *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Did anyone give the directions to display the age on the family view? I read the emails but I might have missed it. All you do is… With the Family View on your screen, RIGHT click the labels on the left side of the data of either person on the screen (born, died, whatever is there). The Customize Display box will pop up. Here is where you can tell Legacy what you want to show on the family view. You can have 5 things. I have BORN, DIED, BURIED, CEMETERY, AGE Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5121 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:
Re: [LegacyUG] Keeping records of online research
Pat Hickin wrote: Thanks, Charani, There are several things I don't understand -- How do you use the History list?? I see no way to enter info in it. As you click on each person in the family, so their name is added to the history list, add a marriage partner and the pair are entered. The only time a name doesn't appear is when I use the Add a new son or dau. As soon as I click on the son or dau to add a spouse, child, other data, then that person will appear in the history list. Just having the name of the person acts as an aide memoire. When I've added all I can, then I delete the name from the history list. Also when I looked up History List in the Help Index, I was told: To reach the *History* list, click the *small down arrow* between the *Back * and *Frwd* buttons on the left side of the Toolbar. I had no trouble finding the small down arrow to the right of the *Back button/Arrow, *and no trouble accessing the History List,* *but I don't see the *Frwd* button/arrow they referred to. The Fwrd button is to the right of the small down arrow - unless you've customised the toolbar and taken it out or not added it. I've customised my toolbar so I'm not sure what was originally there. If you have no Fwrd button, right click in a blank space and you'll find all the options you can have. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I think this may be a religious issue for Legacy. The LDS church is very much against gay-anything so they're hanging onto that view. Just a guess. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 2:08 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: Hi, I'm personally not a big fan of gay marriage but that's just me. As you point out, it is the world we live in and many of us are also recording today's information for future generations and sadly, Legacy is indeed failing to keep up in that regard. -Original Message- From: ArdenholmeGenealogy [mailto:geneal...@ardenholme.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 6:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi Rich I too would be interested to know how you have done it, just tried it myself and was curious how you bypassed the restrictions on the automatic male/female when you add the “husband/wife†to the person. Ian, I wholeheartedly support you in that Legacy needs to be forward thinking in including today’s society and not yesterday’s. I have many friends who are gay and have been living with their partners for many years that we no longer bat an eyelid to these things. One of those friends has been researching his family history for over 30 years and it would be a real shame if he came across Legacy (I’m sure others have) and finds that it doesn’t support same sex relationships. If the Government accept civil marriages, I’m sure designers and programmers at Legacy are too! ☺ Many thanks, Jemima From: Ian GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2012 01:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, Yes please. By all accounts it’s not possible but people find a way ☺ Cheers Ian GARDENER From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 4:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hello I also have some openly gay members in my family, and when I added my sister in law and her partner I was able to list both as female, and I listed them as married as they had a civil marriage. then I listed that they had no children It was pretty simple for me to add her and my other gay family If you have trouble perhaps I can re investigate how I added them and pass my findings on to you. Kindest regards, Rich From: Ian GARDENERijg3...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Hi, I’ve come across a living relative who would like to be included in the family tree, she is openly gay would like her life partner acknowledged too. How is this best achieved in Legacy? If I input a spouse it demands that it be male. They are not actually married as its not legal here but I cannot even show them as defacto. For the sake of the question assume they DO have a child (I’m not sure yet). Second question- she has had three surnames. Her birth name, her acquired surname from a very young age her “married†name. Is there any way to order these correctly? Pity there’s no way to make individual notes against each surname. Cheers Ian GARDENER Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
Hi Ron, Thank you very much for the feedback. I use the same input on my old computer running V6.0 and (identical converted fdb) on the new computer running V7.5. Operations complete in a few seconds on V6.0 and hundreds of relationship are identified. So there are no loops in the file. And yes there is plenty of activity in the computer ; Legacy issues over 30 000 000 000 bytes in i/o operations while doing the relationship calculations. In the meantime, I received a message from Jim, Technical Support, Legacy Family Tree, stating that : This problem has been reported by other users. It was logged for the programmers' attention as issue 3699 Incomplete relationship calculations. A future update may contain the solution. I regret that I do not have a work-around for it. Thank you for taking the time to report this problem. Your efforts will help improve Legacy and make it a better program. I am pretty sure they will eventually figure out what is going on but, I have no choice, I am going back to V6. I held back several months before going to V7.5, especially to avoid this kind of unfortunate problems. Just whish the Legacy team would make available a list of known bugs (or known issues) before they let us convert. Thanks again Ron, Sincerely, Jacques -Original Message- From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com] Sent: 9 juillet 2012 17:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete I have over 230,000 in my main Legacy database and I set relationships regularly for different people in the file. Works fine. Perhaps you have a few people with circular relationships (they are their own descendant). I usually set the non-blood relationships to zero and the blood relationships to 5. It takes about 2 minutes and 35 seconds. While working the counter shows just above the Set Relationships button. Does your counter show any activity or is it stalled at some point? Ron Taylor --- On Mon, 7/9/12, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, July 9, 2012, 1:11 PM You might check to see how many relationships you have selected to calcuate 10 is generally more than sufficient for blood and 5 for non-blood unless you have a lot of royals or other intermingled marriages. Too many relationships in the selection can slow the process down. Also, back up the Family File (File Backup Family File) and run File FIle Maintenance Check/Repair before setting or calculating the relationships. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jacques E Decarie jedeca...@gmail.com wrote: Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not before I go on. I don't mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Michelle, That is you perrogative if you choose not to list gay marriages. However, I strongly feel that it should be an option for those who choose otherwise. I am gay. My partner and I have been together for 39 years. I would love to be able to combine our genealogy into one file. On a side note, the new Heredis has chosen to use the title of Partner rather then Husband/Wife. Also their software does not refuse to let you choose two Ms or two Fs. They are not making a statement for or against gay unions. They are giving the user the ability to choose how to record their information. Regards, Ron Bernier -- Original Message -- From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 7/9/2012 5:51:03 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
For what it's worth, referring to genealogical standard's it matters not what I think. For accuracy, all genealogists should record information as it was, or is, in reality and *not* what we wish it to be. Therefore, we enter information into Legacy Family Tree accordingly, even it that involves workarounds. I agree with flexibility in all programs, however, in all fairness to Legacy Family Tree an all of its programmers, no program can possibly meet 100 percent of everyone's wishes. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Michelle, That is you perrogative if you choose not to list gay marriages. However, I strongly feel that it should be an option for those who choose otherwise. I am gay. My partner and I have been together for 39 years. I would love to be able to combine our genealogy into one file. On a side note, the new Heredis has chosen to use the title of Partner rather then Husband/Wife. Also their software does not refuse to let you choose two Ms or two Fs. They are not making a statement for or against gay unions. They are giving the user the ability to choose how to record their information. Regards, Ron Bernier -- Original Message -- From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 7/9/2012 5:51:03 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
Hi Jacques, Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then import them into V6. Laird On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote: Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
I agree - have never known about this little trick. What a clever way to see at a glance. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net] Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 23:24 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? What a great tip! I have not seen this beforeI love it! Thanks, Rita in South Carolina -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? From Family View, Ctrl + a -- Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Sorry Jenny, I did a quick scan before I sent my reply to RHS and couldn't see that anyone had really addressed his problem - missed yours which seems to do a better job at saying what I was trying to say! Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Richard, There is *no* way to show current age on the Family View. You can only show Age at Death. Age at Death is calculated by Legacy based on the birth or christening and death or burial dates you have entered on the Individual's Information window. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM, RHS Consulting rhsconsult...@comcast.net wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? Outside of the 4 default listings on the Individual's Information page (Born, Bapt, Died, Buried) into which information can be inputted, I am trying to find out how to input information into any of the other Field Names and then put the Field Name (up to 5) with the inputted information into Family View. Someone please help me. Thanks !!! Richard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Thank you all. I guess I will have to do some different inputting now, because I put all my events/facts and everything else into Personal Display Notes using ordinary text format. From there it can unfortunately not be transferred in its present form into Family View. Richard - Original Message - From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Sorry Jenny, I did a quick scan before I sent my reply to RHS and couldn't see that anyone had really addressed his problem - missed yours which seems to do a better job at saying what I was trying to say! Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Aah! P.S. What is Personal Display Notes? JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 5:47 PM, RHS Consulting wrote: Thank you all. I guess I will have to do some different inputting now, because I put all my events/facts and everything else into Personal Display Notes using ordinary text format. From there it can unfortunately not be transferred in its present form into Family View. Richard - Original Message - From: Jan Robertspoo...@ozemail.com.au To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Sorry Jenny, I did a quick scan before I sent my reply to RHS and couldn't see that anyone had really addressed his problem - missed yours which seems to do a better job at saying what I was trying to say! Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Interesting. In looking for the display age option (which I'm sure now must have been a different program as it displayed always), I tried the relationship field and it simply remained blank so it's not automatically filled by default. For there to be a relationship there has to be a core person to calculate this back to. I imagine this will be in options somewhere and requires setting but to say it will be auto automatically filled may just confuse things a little. Actually just how is it accessed? -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Ian: Tools Set Relationships. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ian GARDENER Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Interesting. In looking for the display age option (which I'm sure now must have been a different program as it displayed always), I tried the relationship field and it simply remained blank so it's not automatically filled by default. For there to be a relationship there has to be a core person to calculate this back to. I imagine this will be in options somewhere and requires setting but to say it will be auto automatically filled may just confuse things a little. Actually just how is it accessed? -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Actually if not specifically asked by this person, I wouldn't be either I'm totally non religious:) In this case there are no children I have now found out so really to me, I could leave this partner out except for being asked. Having said that though, wether you I approve or not, the fact is that the world is changing around us and not always for the better. If we are to record the facts and if government allow civil unions, then we need to be able to record it. In the short term I have adopted the marriage event rewording option and instead of husband and wife I've called them female and female, then marked no children and never married. However as this becomes more commonplace which it inevitably will, a better solution needs to be found. I can see where there may be a temptation to totally ignore such relationships at both user programmer level as there's a strong argument against normalising some behaviours. But as researchers we need to be careful not to overly bias our work. Alas in my research it seems that I constantly move from one brick wall to the next. I'm also one of these dreamers who hopes one of my descendants somewhere will pick up my research one day and I simply cannot bring myself to deliberately leave a brick wall for them. Ah for the good old days. -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 7:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Personal Display Notes is where one puts personal notes (and where I put ALL my notes). It's the third icon from the left (in Family View beneath husband or wife) labeled *Display Notes for This Person*. Richard - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Aah! P.S. What is Personal Display Notes? JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 5:47 PM, RHS Consulting wrote: Thank you all. I guess I will have to do some different inputting now, because I put all my events/facts and everything else into Personal Display Notes using ordinary text format. From there it can unfortunately not be transferred in its present form into Family View. Richard - Original Message - From: Jan Robertspoo...@ozemail.com.au To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Sorry Jenny, I did a quick scan before I sent my reply to RHS and couldn't see that anyone had really addressed his problem - missed yours which seems to do a better job at saying what I was trying to say! Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 08:12 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Thats wghy I love this forum. Something handy learned nearly every day. Thanks, I wish I had done this before. -Original Message- From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 11:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Ian: Tools Set Relationships. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ian GARDENER Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Interesting. In looking for the display age option (which I'm sure now must have been a different program as it displayed always), I tried the relationship field and it simply remained blank so it's not automatically filled by default. For there to be a relationship there has to be a core person to calculate this back to. I imagine this will be in options somewhere and requires setting but to say it will be auto automatically filled may just confuse things a little. Actually just how is it accessed? -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? On 09/07/2012 22:02, RHS Consulting wrote: Somehow my concern is being bypassed. I fully understand what you are all talking about, and I have tried it and it works. Here is what I would like to know. There are a great many entries (called Field Names) in the Customize Display list. All of these Field Names require input. Where does this input come from, where is it located, and how does it get into Family View? There are places all over Legacy where you can input information. Apart from the straightforward Names, Birth, Baptism etc which appear by default on the Individual's Information screen there are inputs for various fields in the Events/Facts section, there are several Notes fields - on the Marriage Screen, behind an icon on the Family or Individual Info views, behind the + signs next to the BMD fields, there are several address fields - Event, Mailing and Repository which are accessed from the + signs, or from icons or from the Source screens. In addition, there are various fields which are calculated by Legacy and which do not have to be input by you, such as Relationship or Soundex Code. If you add, for argument's sake, the Relationship field to the Family view, Legacy will fill this for you automatically. If you add, say, the Cause of Death field, you will need to click on a person's Notes icon, select the Medical Tab and enter the Cause of Death in that field. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
It is Legacy's prerogative and I respect that. I will point out that in some areas of the county - and I live in one - it is now a legal standard. Here its not even a civil union. It is recognized by the state as a marriage. As someone doing the family history, I believe I must remain true to the history. They will appear as marriages in my gen if they are considered marriages in the places where the ceremony was performed. Civil unions in others. Cheers - Jackie On 7/9/2012 9:19 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: It is Legacy's prerogative to not include this if it goes against their religious beliefs. If you need something to be able to record these types of relationships there are other options out there. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I'm sorry but I don't understand your way of thinking. Are you telling us that if you don't like a FACT, then you are going to ignore it and not include it in your database? Your personal beliefs have nothing to do with recording genealogy FACTS! Sally In a message dated 7/9/2012 7:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lhite3...@juno.com writes: On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
During one of the discussions on this topic several years ago the programmers said that they just never considered same sex relationships. Their LDS beliefs had no bearing at the time. As they wrote Legacy many decisions on optimizing searches and other features in the code are based on heterosexual couples. Going back and redoing all that code to work with same sex unions would be a major undertaking that they were not prepared to do at the time. Since they keep their plans for new features secret until they are ready for testing I do not know if they have any plans to revise Legacy to accept same sex unions. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 09/07/2012 22:19, Michele Lewis wrote: It is Legacy's prerogative to not include this if it goes against their religious beliefs. If you need something to be able to record these types of relationships there are other options out there. Michele -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I have to agree. Facts are facts and opinions are opinions and most religious views are opinions. They don't belong in determining the construct of a database of facts. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:23 PM, salude...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry but I don't understand your way of thinking. Are you telling us that if you don't like a FACT, then you are going to ignore it and not include it in your database? Your personal beliefs have nothing to do with recording genealogy FACTS! Sally In a message dated 7/9/2012 7:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lhite3...@juno.com writes: On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Yes but we have paid for supported Legacy for a long time, they are also offering a commercial product, not a religious one. Saying go elsewhere is just a little trite. -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. It is Legacy's prerogative to not include this if it goes against their religious beliefs. If you need something to be able to record these types of relationships there are other options out there. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Allowing an option to change a field label requires very little programming. Report options as I've just discovered can be handled on an ad hoc basis for each individual case by using the rewording override. My mate just did it in access (albeit without any nice user front end), in less than 15 minutes. The database rebuild didn't change it either. Food for thought. - For the record, I am not a supporter of gay unions or homosexuality being treated as a norm (that's my belief regardless of public opinion and yes I even have a gay friend although hetro myself), I am however strongly in favour of abiding by genealogical standards and rules of evidence where possible. The discussion is about the program being able to do the job it is sold for. Religion or personal belief has no part in the discussion. I'm going to submit the suggestion as others before me must have done and bow out of this thread which I started as a how to question, not a religious or political one. Everyone have a nice day and enjoy doing what makes you happy. Let your neighbour take care of themselves :) -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. During one of the discussions on this topic several years ago the programmers said that they just never considered same sex relationships. Their LDS beliefs had no bearing at the time. As they wrote Legacy many decisions on optimizing searches and other features in the code are based on heterosexual couples. Going back and redoing all that code to work with same sex unions would be a major undertaking that they were not prepared to do at the time. Since they keep their plans for new features secret until they are ready for testing I do not know if they have any plans to revise Legacy to accept same sex unions. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 09/07/2012 22:19, Michele Lewis wrote: It is Legacy's prerogative to not include this if it goes against their religious beliefs. If you need something to be able to record these types of relationships there are other options out there. Michele -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete
Hi Laird, This is what I like, true help. That is what I did. Works fine except for some individual tag descriptions that I will be able to re-enter (only 5 entries lost, that's all). Thanks again. Jacques -Original Message- From: Laird [mailto:lftu...@bayleenet.net] Sent: 9 juillet 2012 19:19 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator and Set Relationships do not complete Hi Jacques, Don' retype all those 780 modifications. Export them to a GEDCOM and then import them into V6. Laird On 7/9/2012 1:26 PM, Jacques E Decarie wrote: Four weeks ago, I converted from V 6.0 Deluxe to 7.5 Deluxe. My main database contains over 270 000 individuals. The relationship SET and CALCULTE never complete in V7.5 (even after 30 minutes). In the last 4 weeks, I have made over 780 modifications to my database. I need to know *if Legacy 7.5 can handle relationships or not* before I go on. I don’t mind going back to V 6.0.0.190 and retyping my 780 records but I need to know now if that is what I have to do. Any help and comments from users with similar experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jacques. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
If someone wants to record these things, they can work it out on their own. As for me and my house, we won't be recording this either. I don't use the LDS options that are provided but I don't complain that they are there either. This doesn't seem like something that needs to be discussed here. God bless, Ellen On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:23 PM, salude...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry but I don't understand your way of thinking. Are you telling us that if you don't like a FACT, then you are going to ignore it and not include it in your database? Your personal beliefs have nothing to do with recording genealogy FACTS! Sally In a message dated 7/9/2012 7:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lhite3...@juno.com writes: On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.” - Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 From: Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Genealogy works with bloodlines. There are no bloodlines in same-sex relationships. If there are any children, then the sperm and egg donors should be noted if they are in your family, not the one giving birth if different from sperm and egg donor because that is where the bloodline comes from. If genealogy gets too caught up in these societal downturns, then we will one day be working with even more confusing things like beastiality and such. I know of one distant relative who doesn't want his prior marriages listed because his current wife will get upset. I'm listing them once I get the info anyway. There are some relatives who have had children from affairs that may be hearsay or are not publicly known and I won't be the one to publicize it. There are times when you need to use your head and follow logical requests and not follow others. God bless, Ellen On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: Actually if not specifically asked by this person, I wouldn't be either I'm totally non religious:) In this case there are no children I have now found out so really to me, I could leave this partner out except for being asked. Having said that though, wether you I approve or not, the fact is that the world is changing around us and not always for the better. If we are to record the facts and if government allow civil unions, then we need to be able to record it. In the short term I have adopted the marriage event rewording option and instead of husband and wife I've called them female and female, then marked no children and never married. However as this becomes more commonplace which it inevitably will, a better solution needs to be found. I can see where there may be a temptation to totally ignore such relationships at both user programmer level as there's a strong argument against normalising some behaviours. But as researchers we need to be careful not to overly bias our work. Alas in my research it seems that I constantly move from one brick wall to the next. I'm also one of these dreamers who hopes one of my descendants somewhere will pick up my research one day and I simply cannot bring myself to deliberately leave a brick wall for them. Ah for the good old days. -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 7:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Marriage is not about blood lines. Unless you marry a cousin. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:49 PM, Darlene Don Hicks wrote: My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
...and now I think I.'ll go build my bombshelterMy experience with this topic is that the issue needs to be how to RECORD the information...not whether you agree with the circumstancesSeems like it has been THOROUGHLY discussed ...yet againNEXT TOPIC PULEASE. ---Original Message--- From: Darlene Don Hicks Date: 07/09/12 23:17:10 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.” - Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 From: Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
This discussion just proves that you can't trust anyone elses database. You must find and verify the facts yourself. If my grandpa were hanged as a horse thief should I omit that fact because I don't like it? Sally In a message dated 7/9/2012 11:41:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, familyt...@wightman.ca writes: ...and now I think I.'ll go build my bombshelterMy experience with this topic is that the issue needs to be how to RECORD the information...not whether you agree with the circumstancesSeems like it has been THOROUGHLY discussed ...yet againNEXT TOPIC PULEASE. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
EXCACTLY I'm with you and Legacy is a Family Tree program active marketed as being the tool for genealogy and family history, not a thoroughbred bloodline database. Can't see how you accurately do family history if the program will not accept the facts. I decry the gay lifestyle but it IS A FACT. I didn't like Hiroshima or Negasaki either but I don't refuse to acknowledge it because I don't like it. If Legacy is to be a religious research tool then so be it but I've never seen it marketed as such. Seems we have genealogists family historians in one corner and religious tracers of bloodlines in the other. What will be will be. BTW Thanks for the tip Rita in South Carolina, yours was one of the few replies that actually dealt with the question and I've adopted your suggestion. I suppose I could always relabel it to unacceptable fact (tongue in ckeek)..: -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 1:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Marriage is not about blood lines. Unless you marry a cousin. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:49 PM, Darlene Don Hicks wrote: My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
It is about blood lines as when two people marry the child of this marriage has the blood of both and therefore a blood line. The person of the couple that is your aunt or uncle is a direct bloodline being siblings to your parent. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.” - Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Marriage is not about blood lines. Unless you marry a cousin. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:49 PM, Darlene Don Hicks wrote: My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
RE: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view?
Richard, a misinterpretation of the label - Display is used as a verb in this instance, saying that this icon will display the Notes. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: RHS Consulting [mailto:rhsconsult...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 11:51 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Personal Display Notes is where one puts personal notes (and where I put ALL my notes). It's the third icon from the left (in Family View beneath husband or wife) labeled *Display Notes for This Person*. Richard - Original Message - From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Age on the family view? Aah! P.S. What is Personal Display Notes? JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
Using THAT criteria, I assume that you exclude any adopted children since they have neither parent's bloodline...and using THAT criteria then Legacy IS a genealogy program. Many others use it as a family history program. It just depends how much flesh you want to put on the bones. I STILL say that this discussion has run its course and is rapidly descending to a personal bias levelLet's move on ---Original Message--- From: Darlene Don Hicks Date: 07/10/12 00:26:16 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. It is about blood lines as when two people marry the child of this marriage has the blood of both and therefore a blood line. The person of the couple that is your aunt or uncle is a direct bloodline being siblings to your parent. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.” - Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 From: JLB j...@jgen.ws To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Marriage is not about blood lines. Unless you marry a cousin. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:49 PM, Darlene Don Hicks wrote: My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Amen Michele, I agree with you 100%. Lloyd Which Diet Pills Work? Find Out Which Diet Pills Tested Highest for Weight Loss. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ffb689391f4e688c6ff2st54duc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree)
Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I was just thinking along the same lines. How do you record the child(ren) of a heterosexual couple who used a sperm donor? No different than how you would record the child(ren) of gay couples. One of the parents is not biological. Certainly I have adopted children in my database. Probably within my lifetime they will marry and there's no bloodlines there at all. Should I stop recording at that point? Should I kick them out right now because they're mucking up the 'purity' of my bloodlines? --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 9:48 PM, familytree wrote: Using THAT criteria, I assume that you exclude any adopted children since they have neither parent's bloodline...and using THAT criteria then Legacy IS a genealogy program. Many others use it as a family history program. It just depends how much flesh you want to put on the bones. I STILL say that this discussion has run its course and is rapidly descending to a personal bias levelLet's move on /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Darlene Don Hicks mailto:darca...@yahoo.com /*Date:*/ 07/10/12 00:26:16 /*To:*/ LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com /*Subject:*/ Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. It is about blood lines as when two people marry the child of this marriage has the blood of both and therefore a blood line. The person of the couple that is your aunt or uncle is a direct bloodline being siblings to your parent. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* JLB j...@jgen.ws *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 11:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Marriage is not about blood lines. Unless you marry a cousin. JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 7:49 PM, Darlene Don Hicks wrote: My genealogy is about blood lines. I haven't found any gays in my family, but if I did, I would not list them as partners. Unmarried is my term for those who did not marry a spouse of the oppocite sex. I can surely see why Legacy doesn't want to add gays to their family tree. There are many who feel the way I do. Now, I know some put these gays together as a couple and even the adopted that went along with this union, but it isn't the truth. Gays are a very small percentage of this country, and no matter how loud they scream for this option, it would not be accepted by the other 93% of us Christians. If this ever happens, I will be one who chooses not to use Legacy any longer. Darlene A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL! “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten a hold of us.†- Thomas Jefferson 1782 The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream. ~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963 Energy and persistence conquer all things. ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave. - John Adams, On the Rights of the Colonists, 1772 *From:* Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com mailto:lhite3...@juno.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2012 7:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks
Family history or genealogy (was Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I KNOW I am committing one of the lists unpardonable sins by hijacking a thread but really DO feel the previous topic had surpassed its useful life.. I still think that's a decision you make at the outsetare you doing family history or genealogy...although I admit that I have changed my mind sometimes when the family history becomes particularly intriguing. I also tend to change my mind on the subject when I find many intermarriages between familiesthen I just CAN'T resist the temptation to find out more ..It is family history AND genealogy in my case...and I rather enjoy the sounds of the skeletons hanging in the closet ---Original Message--- From: JLB Date: 07/10/12 00:58:25 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I was just thinking along the same lines. How do you record the child(ren) of a heterosexual couple who used a sperm donor? No different Than how you would record the child(ren) of gay couples. One of the parents is not biological. Certainly I have adopted children in my database. Probably within my lifetime they will marry and there's no bloodlines there at all. Should I stop recording at that point? Should I kick them out right now because they're mucking up the 'purity' of my bloodlines? --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Family history or genealogy (was Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
I disagree that it's your purview to decide when a thread should end. I don't mind that you changed the title of it though. It's possible the Legacy staff would find this discussion quite useful in making their own determinations. I've found it quite interesting although nauseating at times as I'm not on the 'religious' side whatsoever. And, Ian, there's no such thing as a 'gay lifestyle' just homosexual or other-sexual people. Genealogy or family history. I hadn't thought about it that way before. So I guess 'genealogy' means I should get busy recording the babies born through rape. (Pure bloodlines! biological on at least one side ... ) And 'family history' means picking and choosing what you please? OK now I'm totally confused. --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/9/2012 10:24 PM, familytree wrote: I KNOW I am committing one of the lists unpardonable sins by hijacking a thread but really DO feel the previous topic had surpassed its useful life.. I still think that's a decision you make at the outsetare you doing family history or genealogy...although I admit that I have changed my mind sometimes when the family history becomes particularly intriguing. I also tend to change my mind on the subject when I find many intermarriages between familiesthen I just CAN'T resist the temptation to find out more...It is family history AND genealogy in my case...and I rather enjoy the sounds of the skeletons hanging in the closet /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws /*Date:*/ 07/10/12 00:58:25 /*To:*/ LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com /*Subject:*/ Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I was just thinking along the same lines. How do you record the child(ren) of a heterosexual couple who used a sperm donor? No different Than how you would record the child(ren) of gay couples. One of the parents is not biological. Certainly I have adopted children in my database. Probably within my lifetime they will marry and there's no bloodlines there at all. Should I stop recording at that point? Should I kick them out right now because they're mucking up the 'purity' of my bloodlines? --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5122 - Release Date: 07/09/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
