Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Lucy McDonald Shore]

The only reason the
se scams exist is that, unfortunately, every once in a while they work.
What a world we live in... Just for the record, Microsoft informed me that
they don't make these kinds of calls...:-)

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM,  wrote:

> **
> I received the same type phone call. He said his name was Andrew and he
> wanted access to my computer. Same reason my computer was indicating a high
> error rate. i said I would call him back and the phone number he gave me
> was an area code that did not exist.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL*
> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.*
> ---
> CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
> license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.
>
>  In a message dated 8/22/2012 9:17:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lucy_sh...@umanitoba.ca writes:
>
> I realize that this is becoming very off-topic, especially with my
> addition. I do suspect that it is related to the last message. I got a call
> one day about two weeks ago from a fellow (knew my name) who claimed he was
> calling from Microsoft. My phone indicated that the calling number was
> unavailable. He spoke with a distinctly foreign accent which led me to
> believe that he was calling from an off shore calling centre. When I asked
> for his name he gave me a very common-sounding name -- not quite John Smith
> but in that same vein. When I pointed out that his number was unavailable
> he explained that Microsoft employees call from many numbers. I was deeply
> suspicious especially when he told me that my computer was reporting many
> errors...I rarely have them...I kept him on the line because I really
> wanted to know what  he was trying to sell me or whatever...but hung up
> when I was getting nowhere (his accent was of no help). I reported the
> incident to Microsoft and they suspect that his intent was to be able to
> access my computer...which, of course, I would never allow.
>
> Just another warning to everyone!
>
> Lucy
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, JLB  wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling. Do you have any
>> web properties that display contact information of any kind? Even your
>> name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in directories for phone
>> numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss type of thing.
>> Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy world as possible
>> and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's going off the deep
>> end here but anyone determined can put things together pretty easily.
>>
>> I get at least 50-100 junk emails per day and I wonder where did they
>> get my address? A lot of it comes to addresses that are not on my
>> website. It's illegal to sell/share mailing lists but people do it
>> anyway. Why? Money.
>>
>> The way I see it - anyone who I don't know (email) or recognize on the
>> phone is a stranger. I don't care who they say they are. I don't know
>> them. And they don't get to ask me questions.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 8/22/2012 3:58 PM, Sentz wrote:
>> > I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd at the
>> > time since the guy asked if I'd gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
>> > offered to perform a look up for one of my ancestors to show that
>> > GeneologyBank would be of a benefit. At the time I did not sign up for
>> > a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
>> > resourceful telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
>> > Legacy subscribers from.
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Original Message --
>> > From: "JLB"
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
>> > Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>> >> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
>> >> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
>> >> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but
>> I
>> >> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
>> >> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
>> >> someone is pretending to be.
>> >> ---
>> >> JL Beeken
>> >> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> >> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>> >>
>> >> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Kathy,
>> >>> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
>> >>> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
>> >>> program and how they could be of help.
>> >>> I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
>> >>> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a mar

Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[MVMcgrs]

I received the same type phone call. He said his  name was Andrew and he
wanted access to my computer. Same reason my computer was  indicating a high
error rate. i said I would call him back and the phone number  he gave me was
an area code that did not exist.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services,  L.L.C.
---
CG,  Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
service marks  of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under
license by  Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.


In a message dated 8/22/2012 9:17:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lucy_sh...@umanitoba.ca writes:

I realize that this is becoming very off-topic, especially with my
addition. I do suspect that it is related to the last message. I got a call  one
day about two weeks ago from a fellow (knew my name) who claimed he was
calling from Microsoft. My phone indicated that the calling number was
unavailable. He spoke with a distinctly foreign accent which led me to believe  
that
he was calling from an off shore calling centre. When I asked for  his name
he gave me a very common-sounding name -- not  quite John Smith but in that
same vein. When I pointed out that his  number was unavailable he explained
that Microsoft employees call from many  numbers. I was deeply suspicious
especially when he told me that my computer  was reporting many errors...I
rarely have them...I kept him on the line  because I really wanted to know what
 he was trying to sell me or  whatever...but hung up when I was getting
nowhere (his accent was of no help).  I reported the incident to Microsoft and
they suspect that his intent was to  be able to access my computer...which,
of course, I would never allow.

Just another warning to everyone!

Lucy


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, JLB <_jl@jgen.ws_ (mailto:j...@jgen.ws) >
wrote:

Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling.  Do you have any
web properties that display contact information of any  kind? Even your
name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in  directories for phone
numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss  type of thing.
Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy  world as possible
and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's  going off the deep
end here but anyone determined can put things together  pretty easily.

I get at least 50-100 junk emails per day and I wonder  where did they
get my address? A lot of it comes to addresses that are  not on my
website. It's illegal to sell/share mailing lists but people do  it
anyway. Why? Money.

The way I see it - anyone who I don't know  (email) or recognize on the
phone is a stranger. I don't care who they  say they are. I don't know
them. And they don't get to ask me  questions.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for  genealogists
_http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/_ (http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/)

On 8/22/2012 3:58 PM,  Sentz wrote:
> I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd at the
> time since the guy asked if I'd  gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
> offered to perform a look up  for one of my ancestors to show that
> GeneologyBank would be of a  benefit. At the time I did not sign up for
> a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
> resourceful  telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
> Legacy  subscribers from.
>
>
> -- Original Message  --
> From: "JLB"<_jl@jgen.ws_ (mailto:j...@jgen.ws) >
> To: _LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com_
(mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com)
>  Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]  GenealogyBank
>> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known  reputable company to make
>> a purchase, I would not be giving out  my credit card number and other
>> personal information to someone  who 'just happened to call'.
>>
>> I'm not saying it's the  case with this, because I just don't know, but I
>> do know people  have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
>> personal  information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
>>  someone is pretending to be.
>> ---
>> JL  Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for  genealogists
>> _http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/_ (http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/)
>>
>> On  8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kathy,
>>>  When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of  phone
>>> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask  how I liked the
>>> program and how they could be of  help.
>>> I have never received a call like the one you  described from Legacy.
>>> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having  some sort of a marketing campaign,
>>> it makes me wonder who  actually called you. If you haven't done so
>>> already, it  might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>>>  Best,
>>> Lavern Hall
>>> Aurora, Ohio,  USA
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB<_jl@jgen.ws_ (mailto:j...@jgen.w

Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Ed Carpenter]

If you create the other family once and use the option to "Link to
Existing", you will not have this duplication and the correct people will
be linked in both cases.

On Aug 22, 2012 9:14 PM, "Lavern Hall"  wrote:
>
> Thanks so much!  I need some practice time.
>
> Taking this a step further. Assuming everything is entered correctly,
then when  I go to print out an Ancestor's report for this family, there
will be a lot of duplication. Would it be acceptable to do some sort of a
cross-reference, (e.g. see so-in-so), and how would this be accomplished?
>
> Lavern Hall
>
> .
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM, David Abernathy <
da...@schmeckabernathy.com> wrote:
>>
>> Enter the sisters, then the parents of one of them. Then link the other
sister to the parents, so they appear as sisters in the family view.
>>
>> Sent from my Kindle Fire
>> In God We Trust
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Brian/Support]

When creating a report of ancestors or descendants select the format
tab. There is a setting there, "Don't repeat duplicate lines that will
remove the duplication by adding a see page x instead of repeating the line.

Brian
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On 22/08/2012 21:13, Lavern Hall wrote:
> Thanks so much!  I need some practice time.
>
> Taking this a step further. Assuming everything is entered correctly, then
> when  I go to print out an Ancestor's report for this family, there will be
> a lot of duplication. Would it be acceptable to do some sort of a
> cross-reference, (e.g. *see* so-in-so), and how would this be accomplished?
>
> Lavern Hall
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RE: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank ATTN: LEGACY SUPPORT

[Lee Bruch]

Sorry, but I don’t agree that my post was insulting.

I made it clear that I’m over 60 too (in fact, near 70).

Any yes, many of us elderly are quite sharp.

But its well documented that the best “marks” for scammers and con artists are 
elderly.



From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank ATTN: LEGACY SUPPORT



Lee and JLB,

You are both very insulting with your comments that someone over 60 is ripe to 
fall for a telephone scam.  How about you give people credit for being a little 
smarter than both of you think they are.  I assure you that neither of you are 
smarter than the average user even though you both obviously give yourselves 
more credit than you deserve.



Ron Bernier,

An intelligent over 60 senior

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

LEGACY SUPPORT:
Please chime in here about these phone calls.

Since many genealogists are over 60 (like me) and ripe to be conned, a word to 
the wise from you may help.

A reminder to all:

NEVER EVER give any private information, ESPECIALLY DON'T PURCHASE FROM, NOR 
GIVE ANY CREDIT CARD INFO WHATSOVEVER TO, TO, ANYONE who calls you out of the 
blue.
Scammers have MANY nefarious ways of getting your phone numbers and getting 
private info about you.

Don't get conned. Don't get scammed.

Lee

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws  ]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did Think about it. 
Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having grown up in more 
innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please report back; I'm curious how 
this turns out.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/





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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank ATTN: LEGACY SUPPORT

[Ron Bernier]

Lee and JLB,
You are both very insulting with your comments that someone over 60 is ripe
to fall for a telephone scam.  How about you give people credit for being a
little smarter than both of you think they are.  I assure you that neither
of you are smarter than the average user even though you both obviously
give yourselves more credit than you deserve.

Ron Bernier,
An intelligent over 60 senior

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:

> LEGACY SUPPORT:
> Please chime in here about these phone calls.
>
> Since many genealogists are over 60 (like me) and ripe to be conned, a
> word to the wise from you may help.
>
> A reminder to all:
>
> NEVER EVER give any private information, ESPECIALLY DON'T PURCHASE FROM,
> NOR GIVE ANY CREDIT CARD INFO WHATSOVEVER TO, TO, ANYONE who calls you out
> of the blue.
> Scammers have MANY nefarious ways of getting your phone numbers and
> getting private info about you.
>
> Don't get conned. Don't get scammed.
>
> Lee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws ]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:58 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>
> I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did. Think
> about it. Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having grown
> up in more innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please report back;
> I'm curious how this turns out.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

Yes, I've seen that one and yes, they want access to your computer and
if you give it, they take what they want and leave your HD in a big big
mess. It's a fairly old one. I know this is getting off topic but it's
kind of a good one because people get conned every single day,
especially us oldies.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 6:16 PM, Lucy McDonald Shore wrote:
> I realize that this is becoming very off-topic, especially with my
> addition. I do suspect that it is related to the last message. I got a
> call one day about two weeks ago from a fellow (knew my name) who
> claimed he was calling from Microsoft. My phone indicated that the
> calling number was unavailable. He spoke with a distinctly foreign
> accent which led me to believe that he was calling from an off shore
> calling centre. When I asked for his name he gave me a very
> common-sounding name -- not quite John Smith but in that same vein. When
> I pointed out that his number was unavailable he explained that
> Microsoft employees call from many numbers. I was deeply suspicious
> especially when he told me that my computer was reporting many
> errors...I rarely have them...I kept him on the line because I really
> wanted to know what  he was trying to sell me or whatever...but hung up
> when I was getting nowhere (his accent was of no help). I reported the
> incident to Microsoft and they suspect that his intent was to be able to
> access my computer...which, of course, I would never allow.
> Just another warning to everyone!
> Lucy
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>> 
> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling. Do you have any
> web properties that display contact information of any kind? Even your
> name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in directories for phone
> numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss type of thing.
> Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy world as possible
> and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's going off the deep
> end here but anyone determined can put things together pretty easily.
>
> I get at least 50-100 junk emails per day and I wonder where did they
> get my address? A lot of it comes to addresses that are not on my
> website. It's illegal to sell/share mailing lists but people do it
> anyway. Why? Money.
>
> The way I see it - anyone who I don't know (email) or recognize on the
> phone is a stranger. I don't care who they say they are. I don't know
> them. And they don't get to ask me questions.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 3:58 PM, Sentz wrote:
>  > I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd
> at the
>  > time since the guy asked if I'd gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
>  > offered to perform a look up for one of my ancestors to show that
>  > GeneologyBank would be of a benefit. At the time I did not sign
> up for
>  > a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
>  > resourceful telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
>  > Legacy subscribers from.
>  >
>  >
>  > -- Original Message --
>  > From: "JLB"mailto:j...@jgen.ws>>
>  > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> 
>  > Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>  >> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company
> to make
>  >> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and
> other
>  >> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>  >>
>  >> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't
> know, but I
>  >> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on
> people's
>  >> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not
> them,
>  >> someone is pretending to be.
>  >> ---
>  >> JL Beeken
>  >> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>  >> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>  >>
>  >> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>  >>
>  >>>
>  >>> Hi Kathy,
>  >>> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple
> of phone
>  >>> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I
> liked the
>  >>> program and how they could be of help.
>  >>> I have never received a call like the one you described from
> Legacy.
>  >>> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing
> campaign,
>  >>> it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
>  >>> already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>  >>> Best,
>  >>> Lavern Hall
>  >>> Aurora, Ohio, US

RE: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank ATTN: LEGACY SUPPORT

[Lee Bruch]

LEGACY SUPPORT:
Please chime in here about these phone calls.

Since many genealogists are over 60 (like me) and ripe to be conned, a word to 
the wise from you may help.

A reminder to all:

NEVER EVER give any private information, ESPECIALLY DON'T PURCHASE FROM, NOR 
GIVE ANY CREDIT CARD INFO WHATSOVEVER TO, TO, ANYONE who calls you out of the 
blue.
Scammers have MANY nefarious ways of getting your phone numbers and getting 
private info about you.

Don't get conned. Don't get scammed.

Lee

-Original Message-
From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did. Think about 
it. Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having grown up in more 
innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please report back; I'm curious how 
this turns out.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 4:40 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> I did not give out any information and I will send the number that
> called me (from my caller ID) to customer support. Thanks. Kathy
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> JL,
>
> I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any* personal
> information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are calling from a
> number in my telephone address book and I know the name of the person
> calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account
> information.
>
> Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and name
> if in the
> address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the number is
> withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing then I
> will
> not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be wanting to
> sell
> something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they really do
> wish to
> talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99% of the
> time they
> do not.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>
> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>
> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
> someone is pretending to be.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>  > Hi Kathy,
>  > When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of
> phone
>  > calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I
> liked the
>  > program and how they could be of help.
>  > I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
>  > Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing
> campaign,
>  > it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
>  > already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>  > Best,
>  > Lavern Hall
>  > Aurora, Ohio, USA
>  > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB   >>
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
>  > GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be
> doing.
>  >
>  > Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your
> credit
>  > card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>  >
>  > Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising
> marketer who
>  > just
>  > wanted your credit card number and all your other personal
> information
>  > so they could go shopping elsewhere.
>  > ---
>  > JL Beeken
>  > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>  > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>  >
>  > On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>  > > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from
>  > Legacy
>  > > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to
>  > version
>  > > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
>  > wasn't
>  > > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
>  > proceeded to
>  > > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd

Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Lucy McDonald Shore]

I realize that this is becoming very off-topic, especially with my
addition. I do suspect that it is related to the last message. I got a call
one day about two weeks ago from a fellow (knew my name) who claimed he was
calling from Microsoft. My phone indicated that the calling number was
unavailable. He spoke with a distinctly foreign accent which led me to
believe that he was calling from an off shore calling centre. When I asked
for his name he gave me a very common-sounding name -- not quite John Smith
but in that same vein. When I pointed out that his number was unavailable
he explained that Microsoft employees call from many numbers. I was deeply
suspicious especially when he told me that my computer was reporting many
errors...I rarely have them...I kept him on the line because I really
wanted to know what  he was trying to sell me or whatever...but hung up
when I was getting nowhere (his accent was of no help). I reported the
incident to Microsoft and they suspect that his intent was to be able to
access my computer...which, of course, I would never allow.

Just another warning to everyone!

Lucy

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, JLB  wrote:

> Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling. Do you have any
> web properties that display contact information of any kind? Even your
> name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in directories for phone
> numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss type of thing.
> Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy world as possible
> and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's going off the deep
> end here but anyone determined can put things together pretty easily.
>
> I get at least 50-100 junk emails per day and I wonder where did they
> get my address? A lot of it comes to addresses that are not on my
> website. It's illegal to sell/share mailing lists but people do it
> anyway. Why? Money.
>
> The way I see it - anyone who I don't know (email) or recognize on the
> phone is a stranger. I don't care who they say they are. I don't know
> them. And they don't get to ask me questions.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 3:58 PM, Sentz wrote:
> > I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd at the
> > time since the guy asked if I'd gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
> > offered to perform a look up for one of my ancestors to show that
> > GeneologyBank would be of a benefit. At the time I did not sign up for
> > a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
> > resourceful telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
> > Legacy subscribers from.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "JLB"
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> > Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
> >> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
> >> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
> >> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
> >>
> >> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
> >> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
> >> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
> >> someone is pretending to be.
> >> ---
> >> JL Beeken
> >> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> >> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
> >>
> >> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Kathy,
> >>> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
> >>> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
> >>> program and how they could be of help.
> >>> I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
> >>> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
> >>> it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
> >>> already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
> >>> Best,
> >>> Lavern Hall
> >>> Aurora, Ohio, USA
> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLBmailto:j...@jgen.ws>>
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
> >>> GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your
> credit
> >
> >>> card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
> >>>
> >>> Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who
> just
> >>> wanted your credit card number and all your other personal
> information
> >>> so they could go shopping elsewhere.
> >>> ---
> >>> JL Beeken
> >>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> >>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
> >>>
> >>> On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> >>>  >  Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from
> Legacy
> >>>  >  Family Tr

Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Lavern Hall]

Thanks so much!  I need some practice time.

Taking this a step further. Assuming everything is entered correctly, then
when  I go to print out an Ancestor's report for this family, there will be
a lot of duplication. Would it be acceptable to do some sort of a
cross-reference, (e.g. *see* so-in-so), and how would this be accomplished?

Lavern Hall

.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM, David Abernathy  wrote:

> Enter the sisters, then the parents of one of them. Then link the other
> sister to the parents, so they appear as sisters in the family view.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

I would add that most reliable picture editing program allow one to save the
image in their own format. Apart from being lossless this also means that
changes made previous can be undone, usually back to the base image if
necessary. This is how I save the pictures which I have worked on, rather
than converting all (or saving every scan) to TIFF. This does take up quite
a lot less space on my PC, because if I have not worked on a picture then it
is still in the JPG format.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

It is your choice whether to attach the image to the event, the source
or both. If you attach a picture to an event (excluding birth, Chr/Bapt,
death and burial) the picture can be included in narrative reports and
will appear in the body of the report when the event is included.
Pictures attached only to sources will only appear in the source
citation listing at the end of the report if source pictures are selected.

Re file formats: The Tif format Geoff recommends is for saving original
scans. This is a loss-less format that includes all the detail from the
original scan. Editing and saving again as a tif makes no change to the
quality of the picture. It creates a large sized file because of this. A
jpg file is a lossy format. It creates a smaller size file but loses a
small amount of detail. Usually this loss is minimal with the first save
but editing and re-saving a jpg file many times will result in
degradation each cycle of edit and save and can lead to significant
degradation in the picture quality.

The recommendation is that you scan and save an original in tif format.
You then edit and create a jpg copy of this file for attaching within
Legacy. This gives you a high quality original if you need to perform
further edits and a smaller file to attach to Legacy.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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On 22/08/2012 18:51, Sentz wrote:
> Lots of nuances to the source writer.  When I click on the event and
> then click on the source citation in the event window, the citation
> does show up on the list for alt. death and I did find it in the main
> citation list for the record by scrolling down further.  The document
> image was saved on my computer as a .jpg file.  I did as you suggested
> and saved the picture to the event.  Should we be saving the picture to
> the event and the citation?
> Geoff mentioned in his last webinar saving some things in a .tif file
> as opposed to a .jpg.   Does anyone recall the reasoning behind this?
> Something about the difference in the documents, ie. Bible records vs.
> other types of records.  Why would one file type be better than the
> other?





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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

Oh, well, in that case, I think their calls are being made in extremely
bad taste. (I'll take the risk of being thrown off the list) because
they're encouraging behaviour that should be absolutely discouraged,
i.e. people trusting phone calls from strangers and requests for
personal information.

If I got sucked any distance into one of these I would excuse myself by
saying that if I am interested in purchasing a subscription to
GenealogyBank I will go to their website directly and make my purchase
there. And please put me on your do-not-call list.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 5:41 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> I do want to clear this up real quick; I realize this is off topic for
> the LUG, but it is pertinent in some ways.
> I did contact Support about it (as sugggested, thank you) and they did
> confirm rather quickly that this was indeed a legitimate phone call from
> Legacy FAmily Tree; we probably all know that GenealogyBank & LFT are
> business partners but I worried about who exactly was initiating that
> phone call.
> So everything was completely legit and I do feel better having verified
> that.  GenealogyBank is a great resource; just has never been on of
> those subscriptions that was a benefit to my personal research needs.
> Even so, I agree about giving CC or other personal info over the phone
> -- gee, remember when we would prefer to give info over the phone rather
> than to put information on the internet?  Now it is just the opposite;
> paypal is the go-to method of payment for so many people and we rarely
> write physical checks anymore -- it's bill pay thru the bank or over the
> web.
> Ok enough of that; please do not continue this thread lest I get tossed
> off this list for posting off topic comments!  I did want to let
> everyone know that the call was legit in case anyone else gets a call
> like that :-)  Kathy
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:57 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>> 
> wrote:
>
> I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did. Think
> about it. Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having
> grown up in more innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please
> report back; I'm curious how this turns out.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 4:40 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>  > I did not give out any information and I will send the number that
>  > called me (from my caller ID) to customer support. Thanks. Kathy
>  >
>  > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Ron Ferguson
>  > mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>
>  >> wrote:
>  >
>  > JL,
>  >
>  > I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any*
> personal
>  > information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are
> calling from a
>  > number in my telephone address book and I know the name of
> the person
>  > calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account
>  > information.
>  >
>  > Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and
> name
>  > if in the
>  > address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the
> number is
>  > withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing
> then I
>  > will
>  > not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be
> wanting to
>  > sell
>  > something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they
> really do
>  > wish to
>  > talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99%
> of the
>  > time they
>  > do not.
>  >
>  > Ron Ferguson
>  > http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>  >
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: JLB
>  > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
>  > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>  >
>  > Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable
> company to make
>  > a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number
> and other
>  > personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>  >
>  > I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't
> know, but I
>  > do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on
> people's
>  > personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's
> not them,
>  > someone is pretending to be.
>  > ---
>  > JL Beeken
>  > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>  > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>  >
>  > On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>  > > Hi Kathy,
>  > > When I fir

Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Kathy Meyer]

I do want to clear this up real quick; I realize this is off topic for the
LUG, but it is pertinent in some ways.

I did contact Support about it (as sugggested, thank you) and they did
confirm rather quickly that this was indeed a legitimate phone call from
Legacy FAmily Tree; we probably all know that GenealogyBank & LFT are
business partners but I worried about who exactly was initiating that phone
call.

So everything was completely legit and I do feel better having verified
that.  GenealogyBank is a great resource; just has never been on of those
subscriptions that was a benefit to my personal research needs.

Even so, I agree about giving CC or other personal info over the phone --
gee, remember when we would prefer to give info over the phone rather than
to put information on the internet?  Now it is just the opposite; paypal is
the go-to method of payment for so many people and we rarely write physical
checks anymore -- it's bill pay thru the bank or over the web.

Ok enough of that; please do not continue this thread lest I get tossed off
this list for posting off topic comments!  I did want to let everyone know
that the call was legit in case anyone else gets a call like that :-)  Kathy

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:57 PM, JLB  wrote:

> I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did. Think
> about it. Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having
> grown up in more innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please
> report back; I'm curious how this turns out.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 4:40 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> > I did not give out any information and I will send the number that
> > called me (from my caller ID) to customer support. Thanks. Kathy
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Ron Ferguson
> > mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > JL,
> >
> > I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any* personal
> > information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are calling
> from a
> > number in my telephone address book and I know the name of the person
> > calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account
> > information.
> >
> > Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and name
> > if in the
> > address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the number
> is
> > withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing then I
> > will
> > not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be wanting to
> > sell
> > something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they really do
> > wish to
> > talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99% of the
> > time they
> > do not.
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: JLB
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
> >
> > Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to
> make
> > a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
> > personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
> >
> > I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know,
> but I
> > do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on
> people's
> > personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
> > someone is pretending to be.
> > ---
> > JL Beeken
> > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
> >
> > On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
> >  > Hi Kathy,
> >  > When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of
> > phone
> >  > calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I
> > liked the
> >  > program and how they could be of help.
> >  > I have never received a call like the one you described from
> Legacy.
> >  > Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing
> > campaign,
> >  > it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
> >  > already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
> >  > Best,
> >  > Lavern Hall
> >  > Aurora, Ohio, USA
> >  > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB  >  >>
> >  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and
> not
> >  > GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be
> > doing.
> >  >
> >  > Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your
> > credit
> >  > card number to make a purchase through their affiliate
> account.
> >  >
> >  > Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising
> > marke

Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Jackie King]

Didn't we have this same discussion a few months to a year ago - and
there was a logical explanation for it.

Perhaps we ought to wait for the folks from Legacy and Genealogybank to
chime in. They may very well know what is happening.

Jackie


Thread basically snipped .


On 8/22/2012 7:34 PM, JLB wrote:
> Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling. Do you have any
> web properties that display contact information of any kind? Even your
> name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in directories for phone
> numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss type of thing.
> Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy world as possible
> and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's going off the deep
> end here but anyone determined can put things together pretty easily.
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Gavin Nicholson]

I'll also add I completely agree with this statement of yours but I don't think 
that is what the census list is doing although an astute person would take the 
suggested location and view it in terms of what you have written below.




From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:11:14 +0100








 In 1871 she is quite likely to be living in Lancashire, less likely to be 
living in the Registration District covering Ince and even less likely to be 
living in Ince.



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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

Maybe it's not a Legacy subscriber list they're calling. Do you have any
web properties that display contact information of any kind? Even your
name? Facebook account? Names can be looked up in directories for phone
numbers and addresses. It could be a hit and miss type of thing.
Compiling as many names associated with the genealogy world as possible
and matching them up with phone numbers. Ok my mind's going off the deep
end here but anyone determined can put things together pretty easily.

I get at least 50-100 junk emails per day and I wonder where did they
get my address? A lot of it comes to addresses that are not on my
website. It's illegal to sell/share mailing lists but people do it
anyway. Why? Money.

The way I see it - anyone who I don't know (email) or recognize on the
phone is a stranger. I don't care who they say they are. I don't know
them. And they don't get to ask me questions.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 3:58 PM, Sentz wrote:
> I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd at the
> time since the guy asked if I'd gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
> offered to perform a look up for one of my ancestors to show that
> GeneologyBank would be of a benefit. At the time I did not sign up for
> a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
> resourceful telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
> Legacy subscribers from.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "JLB"
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
>> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
>> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>>
>> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
>> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
>> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
>> someone is pretending to be.
>> ---
>> JL Beeken
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kathy,
>>> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
>>> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
>>> program and how they could be of help.
>>> I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
>>> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
>>> it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
>>> already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>>> Best,
>>> Lavern Hall
>>> Aurora, Ohio, USA
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLBmailto:j...@jgen.ws>>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
>>> GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
>>>
>>> Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
>
>>> card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>>>
>>> Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who just
>>> wanted your credit card number and all your other personal information
>>> so they could go shopping elsewhere.
>>> ---
>>> JL Beeken
>>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>>>  >  Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from 
>>> Legacy
>>>  >  Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to 
>>> version
>>>  >  7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
>>> wasn't
>>>  >  talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
>>> proceeded to
>>>  >  ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
>>>  >  Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
>>> saying
>>>  >  something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
>>>  >  Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
>>> Bank is
>>>  >  being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
>
>>>  >  GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat, 
>>> gives
>>>  >  discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
>>> all for
>>>  >  advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the call...
>>>  >  Kathy
>>>  >
>>>  >  --
>>>  >  Kathy Meyer
>>>  >  Personal Publishing Consultant
>>>  >  Phone: 801-921-9644
>>>  >  www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
>>> 
>>>  >  
>>>  >  Preserve your heritage by digitizing your photos&  slides and 
>>> sharing
>>>   

RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Gavin Nicholson]

Hi Ron,

Yes it would be handy if support would chime in to just confirm whether my 
understanding is correct.

Note that in my example the 1861 event was for Maria's CHILD so that is why I 
am saying it is very unlikely she (the mother) would be living in Ince. In that 
example my database has no other info for Maria so Legacy is doing its best to 
suggest a location (based on the child's last location) but my issue is I think 
the percentage is way too high given the scarcity of info it has to work with. 
I have made a suggestion to Legacy that children events should be carry a lot 
less weight that I think they are.

Yes I wasn't trying to say Legacy should know about the question mark over her 
name I was trying to illustrate that the database has no info entered for Maria 
which is why it is making a suggestion for the location based on a CHILD's 
location in 1861. Again the 90% though is misleading because although the CHILD 
was living in Ince in 1861 she was in Wales in 1851, Somerset in 1841 and born 
in Devon in 1810, so she (the child) is working her way up the country! I 
personally could make not make a prediction above 30% with that info other than 
to say people generally did not move much in the early 1800s and since her 
daughter was born in Devon I would probably make that my best guess!

Hope that makes sense, (Legacy Support any clarification??!!)
Gavin...



From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:11:14 +0100








Gavin,

I do not read it that way, because I take the note after the percentage as 
being there only for information. In the case which you quote I would merely 
note the fact that in 1861 she was living in Ince. In 1971 she is quite likely 
to be living in Lancashire, less likely to be living in the Registration 
District covering Ince (not going to look it up at 01:00am) and even less 
likely to be living in Ince.

The above is, of course, without further information. Obviously, Legacy cannot 
be expected to know that there is a question mark over her name, and in any 
event I am not certain as to how this may be relevant, nor would I regard the 
place of birth of high importance when a later event shows residence in 
Lancashire.

So we are back to the same problem of Legacy not giving us enough information 
to determine what weighting to give to the %.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/






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RE: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries--Repeat button.

[Carl Cox]

<>

You need your mouse right on the NAME of the field, and left-click
repeats the last entry (blank if it was blank) while right-click shows
the last 10 entries in that field.

Carl



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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Don Hendershot]

A JPG file can be reduced in size without a noticable in the viewable data.  
The problem is that people can then reduce it again and again with a loss of 
data each time.  Eventually you lose so much it becomes a worthless file.  A 
TIF file always retains all of it's original data.

~Don


On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Sentz  wrote:

> Lots of nuances to the source writer.  When I click on the event and
> then click on the source citation in the event window, the citation
> does show up on the list for alt. death and I did find it in the main
> citation list for the record by scrolling down further.  The document
> image was saved on my computer as a .jpg file.  I did as you suggested
> and saved the picture to the event.  Should we be saving the picture to
> the event and the citation?
> Geoff mentioned in his last webinar saving some things in a .tif file
> as opposed to a .jpg.   Does anyone recall the reasoning behind this?
> Something about the difference in the documents, ie. Bible records vs.
> other types of records.  Why would one file type be better than the
> other?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jenny M Benson" 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: 8/22/2012 7:26:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard
>> On 21/08/2012 23:45, Sentz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I bought Legacy was because of the sourcewriter and
>>> clipboard tools. I have been struggling with these tools for about a
>>> year.  I have rerun Geoff's start up Ultimate Guide on the topic and
>>> watched his various webinars where he uses the source writer and
>>> clipboard, including his most recent one, and have also read
>>> documentation.   I think I have the process down and then something goes
>>> haywire with the sourcewriter or the clipboard.  I am not a novice with
>>> data entry or relational data bases, so this is getting very
>>> frustrating. What I end up doing is not doing anything in the database
>>> for a while, take a breather and try again.
>>> The latest problemI was entering an alternate death event for my
>>> great grandmother.  I clicked on the tirangle and set up the master
>>> source which went okay.  Then I set up the detail including linking an
>>> image of the page from the death index that I had downloaded and cropped
>>> from Family Search.  Everything looked okay and I clicked save and then
>>> clicked the bar on the left on the window for the event detail.  Then
>>> saved the event. It's my understanding that a plus sign should show on
>>> the line following the event.  Am I correct? When I check on the
>>> documentation link for the record, the death citation information is not
>>> showing.  Also, in the event window, the data field labels were
>>> highlighted. Perhaps is this case it has to do with where I have the
>>> document image stored.
>>> I keep thinking that there must be some little step that I am not doing
>>> correctly.  Any advice would be welcome.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The + will be there if you have attached a picture to the Event, not if
>> you have attached it to the Source.
>>
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Ron Ferguson]

Gavin,

I do not read it that way, because I take the note after the percentage as 
being there only for information. In the case which you quote I would merely 
note the fact that in 1861 she was living in Ince. In 1971 she is quite likely 
to be living in Lancashire, less likely to be living in the Registration 
District covering Ince (not going to look it up at 01:00am) and even less 
likely to be living in Ince.

The above is, of course, without further information. Obviously, Legacy cannot 
be expected to know that there is a question mark over her name, and in any 
event I am not certain as to how this may be relevant, nor would I regard the 
place of birth of high importance when a later event shows residence in 
Lancashire.

So we are back to the same problem of Legacy not giving us enough information 
to determine what weighting to give to the %.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Gavin Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

It's whatever location that is listed which could be a town. Here is one from 
1871 from my database:


Maria SMART 90% Ince, Lancashire, England (Child Event- Residence: 7 Apr 1861)



So it is saying there is a 90% chance that you will find that person in Ince, 
Lancashire and the program came up with that idea from one of Maria's children 
who had a residence event on 7 Apr 1861 in Ince. I think that is clear.



However, I think the 90% is misleading. I have never found Maria anywhere, her 
name is from an IGI record so is by no means certain. Her daughter was actually 
born in Devon so if I was going to guess where she is I would have been looking 
in Devion but would have attributed a far lower percentage given that her 
daughter was born around 1810.



Gavin...



From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

When they give a percentage for a location, which location are they talking 
about? -- country, state, county/independent city -- I doubt township.

Pat



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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Sentz]

Lots of nuances to the source writer.  When I click on the event and
then click on the source citation in the event window, the citation
does show up on the list for alt. death and I did find it in the main
citation list for the record by scrolling down further.  The document
image was saved on my computer as a .jpg file.  I did as you suggested
and saved the picture to the event.  Should we be saving the picture to
the event and the citation?
Geoff mentioned in his last webinar saving some things in a .tif file
as opposed to a .jpg.   Does anyone recall the reasoning behind this?
Something about the difference in the documents, ie. Bible records vs.
other types of records.  Why would one file type be better than the
other?

-- Original Message --
From: "Jenny M Benson" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 8/22/2012 7:26:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard
>On 21/08/2012 23:45, Sentz wrote:
>
>>
>>One of the reasons I bought Legacy was because of the sourcewriter and
>>clipboard tools. I have been struggling with these tools for about a
>>year.  I have rerun Geoff's start up Ultimate Guide on the topic and
>>watched his various webinars where he uses the source writer and
>>clipboard, including his most recent one, and have also read
>>documentation.   I think I have the process down and then something goes
>>haywire with the sourcewriter or the clipboard.  I am not a novice with
>>data entry or relational data bases, so this is getting very
>>frustrating. What I end up doing is not doing anything in the database
>>for a while, take a breather and try again.
>>The latest problemI was entering an alternate death event for my
>>great grandmother.  I clicked on the tirangle and set up the master
>>source which went okay.  Then I set up the detail including linking an
>>image of the page from the death index that I had downloaded and cropped
>>from Family Search.  Everything looked okay and I clicked save and then
>>clicked the bar on the left on the window for the event detail.  Then
>>saved the event. It's my understanding that a plus sign should show on
>>the line following the event.  Am I correct? When I check on the
>>documentation link for the record, the death citation information is not
>>showing.  Also, in the event window, the data field labels were
>>highlighted. Perhaps is this case it has to do with where I have the
>>document image stored.
>>I keep thinking that there must be some little step that I am not doing
>>correctly.  Any advice would be welcome.
>>
>
>
>The + will be there if you have attached a picture to the Event, not if
>you have attached it to the Source.
>
>--
>Jenny M Benson
>
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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Sentz]

I got one of these calls about 6 months ago.  Thought it was odd at the
time since the guy asked if I'd gotten the latest 7.5 upgrade.  He
offered to perform a look up for one of my ancestors to show that
GeneologyBank would be of a benefit. At the time I did not sign up for
a number of reasons.  I had not thought of the caller being a
resourceful telemarketing scammer.  Wonder where he got his list of
Legacy subscribers from.


-- Original Message --
From: "JLB" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 8/22/2012 6:00:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
>a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
>personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>
>I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
>do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
>personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
>someone is pretending to be.
>---
>JL Beeken
>JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
>On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>
>>
>>Hi Kathy,
>>When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
>>calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
>>program and how they could be of help.
>>I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
>>Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
>>it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
>>already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>>Best,
>>Lavern Hall
>>Aurora, Ohio, USA
>>On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
>>GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
>>
>>Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
>>card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>>
>>Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who just
>>wanted your credit card number and all your other personal information
>>so they could go shopping elsewhere.
>>---
>>JL Beeken
>>JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>>http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>>
>>On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>> > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from Legacy
>> > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to version
>> > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
>>wasn't
>> > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
>>proceeded to
>> > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
>> > Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
>>saying
>> > something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
>> > Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
>>Bank is
>> > being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
>> > GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat, gives
>> > discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
>>all for
>> > advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the call...
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kathy Meyer
>> > Personal Publishing Consultant
>> > Phone: 801-921-9644 
>> > www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
>>
>> > 
>> > Preserve your heritage by digitizing your photos & slides and sharing
>> > them with family.
>> > TODAY is the very best day to do genealogy!
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
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>> >
>> > No virus found in this message.
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
>>>
>> > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5217 - Release Date:
>>08/22/12
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

I'm glad you didn't. I'm betting someone over the age of 60 did. Think
about it. Genealogy is mostly a past-time of older people and having
grown up in more innocent times we're ripe for the pickin'. Please
report back; I'm curious how this turns out.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 4:40 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> I did not give out any information and I will send the number that
> called me (from my caller ID) to customer support. Thanks. Kathy
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> JL,
>
> I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any* personal
> information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are calling from a
> number in my telephone address book and I know the name of the person
> calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account
> information.
>
> Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and name
> if in the
> address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the number is
> withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing then I
> will
> not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be wanting to
> sell
> something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they really do
> wish to
> talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99% of the
> time they
> do not.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>
> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>
> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
> someone is pretending to be.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
>  > Hi Kathy,
>  > When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of
> phone
>  > calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I
> liked the
>  > program and how they could be of help.
>  > I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
>  > Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing
> campaign,
>  > it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
>  > already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
>  > Best,
>  > Lavern Hall
>  > Aurora, Ohio, USA
>  > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB   >>
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
>  > GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be
> doing.
>  >
>  > Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your
> credit
>  > card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>  >
>  > Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising
> marketer who
>  > just
>  > wanted your credit card number and all your other personal
> information
>  > so they could go shopping elsewhere.
>  > ---
>  > JL Beeken
>  > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>  > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>  >
>  > On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>  > > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from
>  > Legacy
>  > > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to
>  > version
>  > > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
>  > wasn't
>  > > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
>  > proceeded to
>  > > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
>  > > Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
>  > saying
>  > > something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
>  > > Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
>  > Bank is
>  > > being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
>  > > GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat,
>  > gives
>  > > discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
>  > all for
>  > > advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the
>  > call...
>  > > Kathy
>  > >
>

Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries--Repeat button.

[JLB]

Don't right-click in the field. Right-click on the label next to it.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 4:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Jenny wrote " If you mean you are entering the same information in BMD
> fields, etc then you can use the Repeat button "
>
> Where IS the Repeat button?  You used to be able to click (right click?)
> in a field, & info entered in a previous field would be repeated -- but
> that no longer works for me.
>
> I can't find anything relevant in Legacy Help.
>
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ed Carpenter  > wrote:
>
> If these are going into the same file, you would not want to add the
> same people multiple times, but use the "Link To" button when adding
> someone that exists elsewhere in the file.
>
> Thank you,
> Ed Carpenter
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jenny M Benson
> mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk>> wrote:
>
> On 22/08/2012 23:20, Lavern Hall wrote:
>  > I have a case where two brothers from one family
>  > married two sisters from a another family.
>  > I have entered family information for the two brothers
>  > (parents, spouses--in this case, each of the sisters--
>  > and the children). As I begin working on the family
>  > with the two sisters, I realize that there is going to
>  > be a lot of duplication of effort, so the question is:
>  > Is there a way to copy data from one family to the other?
>  > And, if copying data isn't the solution, any suggestions?
>
> You can, of course, use the Event Clipboard if you are copying
> Events
> from one person to another and the Source Clipboard if you are
> repeatedly using the same Sources.  If you mean you are entering the
> same information in BMD fields, etc then you can use the Repeat
> button
> to enter the same information as in the same field for the previous
> person you entered.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Kathy Meyer]

I did not give out any information and I will send the number that called
me (from my caller ID) to customer support. Thanks. Kathy

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> JL,
>
> I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any* personal
> information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are calling from a
> number in my telephone address book and I know the name of the person
> calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account information.
>
> Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and name if in
> the
> address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the number is
> withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing then I will
> not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be wanting to sell
> something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they really do wish to
> talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99% of the time
> they
> do not.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JLB
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank
>
> Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
> a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
> personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.
>
> I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
> do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
> personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
> someone is pretending to be.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
> > Hi Kathy,
> > When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
> > calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
> > program and how they could be of help.
> > I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
> > Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
> > it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
> > already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
> > Best,
> > Lavern Hall
> > Aurora, Ohio, USA
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
> > GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
> >
> > Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
> > card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
> >
> > Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who
> > just
> > wanted your credit card number and all your other personal
> information
> > so they could go shopping elsewhere.
> > ---
> > JL Beeken
> > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
> >
> > On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> >  > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from
> > Legacy
> >  > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to
> > version
> >  > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
> > wasn't
> >  > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
> > proceeded to
> >  > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
> >  > Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
> > saying
> >  > something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
> >  > Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
> > Bank is
> >  > being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
> >  > GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat,
> > gives
> >  > discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
> > all for
> >  > advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the
> > call...
> >  > Kathy
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > Kathy Meyer
> >  > Personal Publishing Consultant
> >  > Phone: 801-921-9644 
> >  > www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
> > 
> >  > 
> >  > Preserve your heritage by digitizing your photos & slides and
> > sharing
> >  > them with family.
> >  > TODAY is the very best day to do genealogy!
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Gavin Nicholson]

It's whatever location that is listed which could be a town. Here is one from 
1871 from my database:



Maria SMART 90% Ince, Lancashire, England (Child Event- Residence: 7 Apr 1861)

So it is saying there is a 90% chance that you will find that person in Ince, 
Lancashire and the program came up with that idea from one of Maria's children 
who had a residence event on 7 Apr 1861 in Ince. I think that is clear.

However, I think the 90% is misleading. I have never found Maria anywhere, her 
name is from an IGI record so is by no means certain. Her daughter was actually 
born in Devon so if I was going to guess where she is I would have been looking 
in Devion but would have attributed a far lower percentage given that her 
daughter was born around 1810.

Gavin...







From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

When they give a percentage for a location, which location are they talking 
about? -- country, state, county/independent city -- I doubt township.

Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[David Abernathy]

Enter the sisters, then the parents of one of them. Then link the other sister 
to the parents, so they appear as sisters in the family view.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries--Repeat button.

[Pat Hickin]

Jenny wrote " If you mean you are entering the same information in BMD
fields, etc then you can use the Repeat button "

Where IS the Repeat button?  You used to be able to click (right click?) in
a field, & info entered in a previous field would be repeated -- but that
no longer works for me.

I can't find anything relevant in Legacy Help.

Pat

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ed Carpenter  wrote:

> If these are going into the same file, you would not want to add the same
> people multiple times, but use the "Link To" button when adding someone
> that exists elsewhere in the file.
>
> Thank you,
> Ed Carpenter
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>> On 22/08/2012 23:20, Lavern Hall wrote:
>> > I have a case where two brothers from one family
>> > married two sisters from a another family.
>> > I have entered family information for the two brothers
>> > (parents, spouses--in this case, each of the sisters--
>> > and the children). As I begin working on the family
>> > with the two sisters, I realize that there is going to
>> > be a lot of duplication of effort, so the question is:
>> > Is there a way to copy data from one family to the other?
>> > And, if copying data isn't the solution, any suggestions?
>>
>> You can, of course, use the Event Clipboard if you are copying Events
>> from one person to another and the Source Clipboard if you are
>> repeatedly using the same Sources.  If you mean you are entering the
>> same information in BMD fields, etc then you can use the Repeat button
>> to enter the same information as in the same field for the previous
>> person you entered.
>>
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[Ron Ferguson]

JL,

I entirely agree. I have never, nor will I ever, give *any* personal
information to an unsolicited phone call unless, they are calling from a
number in my telephone address book and I know the name of the person
calling. High on this list of personal details is bank account information.

Incidentally, my land-line phone shows the caller number (and name if in the
address book) - called "Caller Display" in the UK, so if the number is
withheld, or a special number eg. free phone or local pricing then I will
not normally answer as I assume the caller will either be wanting to sell
something or are conducting an intrusive survey! If they really do wish to
talk to me they can leave a message on my answerphone - 99% of the time they
do not.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: JLB
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.

I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
someone is pretending to be.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
> program and how they could be of help.
> I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
> it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
> already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
> Best,
> Lavern Hall
> Aurora, Ohio, USA
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>>
> wrote:
>
> Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
> GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
>
> Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
> card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>
> Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who
> just
> wanted your credit card number and all your other personal information
> so they could go shopping elsewhere.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>  > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from
> Legacy
>  > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to
> version
>  > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
> wasn't
>  > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
> proceeded to
>  > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
>  > Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
> saying
>  > something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
>  > Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
> Bank is
>  > being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
>  > GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat,
> gives
>  > discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
> all for
>  > advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the
> call...
>  > Kathy
>  >
>  > --
>  > Kathy Meyer
>  > Personal Publishing Consultant
>  > Phone: 801-921-9644 
>  > www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
> 
>  > 
>  > Preserve your heritage by digitizing your photos & slides and
> sharing
>  > them with family.
>  > TODAY is the very best day to do genealogy!




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Ed Carpenter]

If these are going into the same file, you would not want to add the same
people multiple times, but use the "Link To" button when adding someone
that exists elsewhere in the file.

Thank you,
Ed Carpenter

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 22/08/2012 23:20, Lavern Hall wrote:
> > I have a case where two brothers from one family
> > married two sisters from a another family.
> > I have entered family information for the two brothers
> > (parents, spouses--in this case, each of the sisters--
> > and the children). As I begin working on the family
> > with the two sisters, I realize that there is going to
> > be a lot of duplication of effort, so the question is:
> > Is there a way to copy data from one family to the other?
> > And, if copying data isn't the solution, any suggestions?
>
> You can, of course, use the Event Clipboard if you are copying Events
> from one person to another and the Source Clipboard if you are
> repeatedly using the same Sources.  If you mean you are entering the
> same information in BMD fields, etc then you can use the Repeat button
> to enter the same information as in the same field for the previous
> person you entered.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/08/2012 23:20, Lavern Hall wrote:
> I have a case where two brothers from one family
> married two sisters from a another family.
> I have entered family information for the two brothers
> (parents, spouses--in this case, each of the sisters--
> and the children). As I begin working on the family
> with the two sisters, I realize that there is going to
> be a lot of duplication of effort, so the question is:
> Is there a way to copy data from one family to the other?
> And, if copying data isn't the solution, any suggestions?

You can, of course, use the Event Clipboard if you are copying Events
from one person to another and the Source Clipboard if you are
repeatedly using the same Sources.  If you mean you are entering the
same information in BMD fields, etc then you can use the Repeat button
to enter the same information as in the same field for the previous
person you entered.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Locations report

[Tony Rolfe]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:15:45 -0700 Brian/Support said

 >Not at this time.
 >
 >We are happy to consider suggestions for new features.

OK, Brian.  I'll submit it.

Tony



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[LegacyUG] How to handle duplicate entries

[Lavern Hall]

Hello everyone,

I have a case where two brothers from one family
married two sisters from a another family.

I have entered family information for the two brothers
(parents, spouses--in this case, each of the sisters--
and the children). As I begin working on the family
with the two sisters, I realize that there is going to
be a lot of duplication of effort, so the question is:

Is there a way to copy data from one family to the other?
And, if copying data isn't the solution, any suggestions?

Thanks,

Lavern Hall
Aurora, Ohio, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

Unless I initiated the call myself to a known reputable company to make
a purchase, I would not be giving out my credit card number and other
personal information to someone who 'just happened to call'.

I'm not saying it's the case with this, because I just don't know, but I
do know people have no end of ideas how to get their hands on people's
personal information. Good idea; check with Legacy. If it's not them,
someone is pretending to be.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/22/2012 2:36 PM, Lavern Hall wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> When I first subscribed to GenealogyBank, I received a couple of phone
> calls from them. The nature of their calls were to ask how I liked the
> program and how they could be of help.
> I have never received a call like the one you described from Legacy.
> Unless Legacy Family Tree is having some sort of a marketing campaign,
> it makes me wonder who actually called you. If you haven't done so
> already, it might be a good idea to contact Legacy.
> Best,
> Lavern Hall
> Aurora, Ohio, USA
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, JLB mailto:j...@jgen.ws>> 
> wrote:
>
> Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
> GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.
>
> Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
> card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.
>
> Then, on the other hand, maybe it was an enterprising marketer who just
> wanted your credit card number and all your other personal information
> so they could go shopping elsewhere.
> ---
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
>
> On 8/22/2012 1:26 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
>  > Just got a call and they identified themselves as calling from Legacy
>  > Family Tree and first thing wanted to know if I'd upgraded to version
>  > 7.5 and I said that upgrade happened a really long time ago. He
> wasn't
>  > talking about any of the version upgrades since then.  He
> proceeded to
>  > ask about GenealogyBank and if I'd tried that and that as a Legacy
>  > Family Tree user, I could get a discount. He even ended the call
> saying
>  > something like thank you for using Legacy Family Tree.
>  > Just want to know if that was really LFT calling or if Genealogy
> Bank is
>  > being a bit misleading there.  Didn't bother me; I know all about
>  > GenealogyBank and that Legacy is associated with them somewhat, gives
>  > discounts etc. and maybe a lot of people wouldn't be aware.  I'm
> all for
>  > advertising your business; just hoping it was LFT making the call...
>  > Kathy
>  >
>  > --
>  > Kathy Meyer
>  > Personal Publishing Consultant
>  > Phone: 801-921-9644 
>  > www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
> 
>  > 
>  > Preserve your heritage by digitizing your photos & slides and sharing
>  > them with family.
>  > TODAY is the very best day to do genealogy!
>  >
>  >
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Re: [LegacyUG] GenealogyBank

[JLB]

Gee, it sounds like it could have been anyone. Not Legacy and not
GenealogyBank. It seems like a weird thing for Legacy to be doing.

Perhaps an enterprising marketer? All they would need is your credit
card number to make a purchase through their affiliate account.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Paula Ryburn]

I believe they mean the location that prints beside the percent on the report.
 There is also a short description of the event (in parens) associated with that
location, that explains why they are "recommending" that location for you to use
in your search of the census.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 12:22:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options


Pat,

I have always taken it to mean the Registration District, at least in the UK,
but your guess is as good as mine!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options
  When they give a percentage for a location, which location are they talking
about? -- country, state, county/independent city -- I doubt township.

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding text details to a source/citation" and exporting GEDCOM issues

[Paula Ryburn]

What I got from EE in these website cases is that the URL, title, date accessed,
will be included in the citation.  I don't think they think of the website as a
"repository," and they do keep track of the website in the citation.  They have
a nifty facebook page, where you could ask this very question of them. ;)
 --Paula in Texas
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Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Ron Ferguson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, June 28, 2012 10:54:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding text details to a source/citation" and exporting
GEDCOM issues

Kirsten,

I have not read Evidence Explained, but happy to accept your account of the
view expressed regarding repository. I could not agree less with the book. I
consider the recording of the repository to be extremely important,
especially when dealing with websites. How many times have we come across a
situation where a record cannot be found on one site, but can on another,
usually due to an incorrect transcription. It could take ages for someone
else to find it again of the repository is not known.

Like you, Kirsten, I will continue to do my own thing!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding text details to a source/citation" and
exporting GEDCOM issues

Bill:

Lots of people struggle over the Repository question.  According to
_Evidence Explained_ listing a repository for published items is not
necessary since anyone can trace back and get the item from their own most
convenient source (and things you find online are interpreted as being
"published").  That said, I usually do make a note of where I found
something because it's easier than trying to remember.  I just don't
struggle over the format and often make it a privatized note not visible in
the citation itself.  If I understand your question, I think the Repository
would almost always go with the Master Source part of the citation.  Just
now I can't think of a situation where you'd have different repositories
associated with one Master Source unless perhaps you used FamilySearch for
one census listing and Ancestry.com for another in the same year and
location--but then you're back to not having to list repositories for
published items.



Kirsten




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/08/2012 19:55, Judith wrote:
> On the Mapping Screen, under Lat, what does the V stand for, and also I've 
> seen an L.

As with most, if not all, Legacy screens, if you click on the Help
button for that screen you will be taken directly to relevant information.

In this case you will learn that V is for a Location which has been
Geo-coded by Bing Maps and L indicates a Location which the user has
coded or has been coded through Legacy's Geo Location Database.

There are other symbols you might find in that column, which are also
detailed in the Help file.

--
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[LegacyUG] Location Notes

[Rita Lynn McKale]

I read in the help file that I can have the "Location Notes" print as part
of the Location Index at the end of reports.  I cannot for the life of me
find where to turn that feature on.  Can someone please tell me?  And also,
will it print the picture I have linked?  Is there a way to only the
location notes and picture?



Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Judith]

If you have Legacy Deluxe you can get a visual view of where a person and their 
family members lived using the Mapping icon on the tool bar.
It generates a map with pushpins on each location where the family lived for 
events in the persons life and for birth and death of parents and children.

To see what occurred at each location hover your mouse pointer on the pushpin 
and a popup will list the events that occurred there with the dates.

This is not the written report you wanted and it only works for one person and 
their immediate family but it may help you quickly find the data you want for 
the report which you could use other software to create.

Brian
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Brian:  On the Mapping Screen, under Lat, what does the V stand for, and also 
I've seen an L.
Thanks,
Judith




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Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Ron Ferguson]

Pat,

I have always taken it to mean the Registration District, at least in the UK, 
but your guess is as good as mine!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

When they give a percentage for a location, which location are they talking 
about? -- country, state, county/independent city -- I doubt township.

Pat

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Gavin Nicholson  wrote:

  I think the intent is clear. There is a 50% chance that the person will be at 
the specified location. This then allows you to filter out those individuals 
who are unlikely (<50%?) to be in the country being searched.



  The problem is without knowing what causes the percentages to drop and by how 
much it is difficult to decide what value to set the cutoff at. Having said 
that as per my previous posts if you put in a residence in another country the 
percentage chance falls to around 10%. (That is, the programmers have decided 
that if someone was in England in 1851 and then you find they are in Australia 
in 1856 there is only a 10% chance they will have moved back and you will find 
them in 1861 in England)



  My main issue (and yes I have submitted a suggestion) is that the weight 
appears too heavily to the children’s events. For example, if I had someone 
living for 50 years in one location (say 1851-1901) but I can’t find them in 
1911 but I do find their children in another country then Legacy will suggest 
looking for the parents in that other country with a high probability (eg. 
90%). I have been planning to set up a dummy file to play with scenarios such 
as what if 3 children all moved to different countries what does Legacy suggest 
then. When I do this I will post the results.



  Hope this helps,

  Gavin...



  From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
  Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 7:18 PM


  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options


  Bruce,



  The problem with this lack of information may just be be due to the way my 
mind works. I think mainly in pictures, so if I read, say, a percentage then I 
may see a slider set at that %, or a sliced orange, I’m sure that you get the 
idea, but usually I relate this to the context, and for 50% of a location I 
cannot do this. Basically I cannot picture the meaning from the information 
given, so it largely becomes meaningless.



  The effect is that if I think of adjusting the probability selection I have 
no confidence in the possible outcome, because I do not know for certain what I 
am doing. I really do hope that Legacy will amend the Help file to make this 
option much more understandable.



  Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Pat Hickin]

When they give a percentage for a location, which location are they talking
about? -- country, state, county/independent city -- I doubt township.

Pat

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Gavin Nicholson wrote:

> I think the intent is clear. There is a 50% chance that the person will be
> at the specified location. This then allows you to filter out those
> individuals who are unlikely (<50%?) to be in the country being searched.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> The problem is without knowing what causes the percentages to drop and by
> how much it is difficult to decide what value to set the cutoff at. Having
> said that as per my previous posts if you put in a residence in another
> country the percentage chance falls to around 10%. (That is, the
> programmers have decided that if someone was in England in 1851 and then
> you find they are in Australia in 1856 there is only a 10% chance they will
> have moved back and you will find them in 1861 in England)
>
> ** **
>
> My main issue (and yes I have submitted a suggestion) is that the weight
> appears too heavily to the children’s events. For example, if I had someone
> living for 50 years in one location (say 1851-1901) but I can’t find them
> in 1911 but I do find their children in another country then Legacy will
> suggest looking for the parents in that other country with a high
> probability (eg. 90%). I have been planning to set up a dummy file to play
> with scenarios such as what if 3 children all moved to different countries
> what does Legacy suggest then. When I do this I will post the results.
>
> ** **
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Gavin...
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 August 2012 7:18 PM
>
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options
>
> ** **
>
> Bruce,
>
>  
>
> The problem with this lack of information may just be be due to the way my
> mind works. I think mainly in pictures, so if I read, say, a percentage
> then I may see a slider set at that %, or a sliced orange, I’m sure that
> you get the idea, but usually I relate this to the context, and for 50% of
> a location I cannot do this. Basically I cannot picture the meaning from
> the information given, so it largely becomes meaningless.
>
>  
>
> The effect is that if I think of adjusting the probability selection I
> have no confidence in the possible outcome, because I do not know for
> certain what I am doing. I really do hope that Legacy will amend the Help
> file to make this option much more understandable.
>
>  
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Brian/Support]

If you have Legacy Deluxe you can get a visual view of where a person
and their family members lived using the Mapping icon on the tool bar.
It generates a map with pushpins on each location where the family lived
for events in the persons life and for birth and death of parents and
children.

To see what occurred at each location hover your mouse pointer on the
pushpin and a popup will list the events that occurred there with the dates.

This is not the written report you wanted and it only works for one
person and their immediate family but it may help you quickly find the
data you want for the report which you could use other software to create.

Brian
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On 22/08/2012 11:28, Yvonne Morehouse wrote:
> To see where family members (or any one else) lived in comparison to one
> another
>
> I want to:
> 1.  Select any 10 people.
> 2.  Produce a report by year to show (over the life span of the 10
> people) where they lived.
>
> Year Suzy  Harry .plus 8 more people
> 1932New York   Cincinnati
> 1933New York   Baltimore
>
> Assume Suzy is born first in 1932 so the report starts in year 1932.
>
> The last born individual is John (not included above) born in 1950.
> John is also the longest lived person and dies in 1960.  The report
> would pick up John in 1950 and end with his death in 1960.
>
> I'm also sending this to the Legacy Suggest list.
>
> Thanks, Yvonne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Yvonne Morehouse]

To see where family members (or any one else) lived in comparison to one
another

I want to:
1.  Select any 10 people.
2.  Produce a report by year to show (over the life span of the 10
people) where they lived.

Year Suzy  Harry .plus 8 more people
1932New York   Cincinnati
1933New York   Baltimore

Assume Suzy is born first in 1932 so the report starts in year 1932.

The last born individual is John (not included above) born in 1950.
John is also the longest lived person and dies in 1960.  The report
would pick up John in 1950 and end with his death in 1960.

I'm also sending this to the Legacy Suggest list.

Thanks, Yvonne



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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations report

[Brian/Support]

Not at this time.

We are happy to consider suggestions for new features.

In Legacy 6.0 and 7.0 you can suggest a new feature by clicking on the
link on the Legacy Home Tab Support Section

Other users can make a suggestion here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

Use the drop down list in the first box to select a category, Legacy 7
or Legacy Charting.

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On 21/08/2012 19:23, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> Is there any way to produce a report showing how a particular location
> was used over time?  In other words, given a location, can we produce a
> report like
>
> Date  Name of Person Event
> 17 May 1854   Mary Smith (1543)  Birth
> 7 Apr 1861George Smith (148) Census
> Mary Smith (249)   Census
> Mary Smith (1543)  Census
>
> etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing burial place.

[Brian/Support]

This is recorded in our problem tracking system.

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On 21/08/2012 22:15, Brian Lehman wrote:
> I'm getting a glitch tonight I've never seen.
> I am entering Burial data, beginning in an individuals screen, I create
> a custom even called Burial Record,
> I enter the data, Date, Place(which is a cemetery) and add appropriate
> notes.
> I close the burial event screen and then I enter the burial date and
> place in the individuals screen,
> by right clicking the place memorized locations or place clipboard.Don't
> remember what its called.
> Then reopen the Burial event and add a source which at times contains a
> scan of the grave stone but not always.
> I add this source to my custom burial event as well as the Burial source
> on an individuals screen.
> I close the source screen, and I have the Burial event screen open,(now
> the glitch),
> when I close the Burial event screen, the already entered Burial Place
> disappears,
> Yes,  just vanishes, I've tried different circumstances with and without
> a scan added and its consistent,
> and its only with the Burial event in the individuals screen.
>
> Just tried again, created a burial event, NO source added this time,
> closed the Burial event and added the burial place to the individual
> screen, reopened the Burial event and shut it and again my already
> entered Burial place on the individual screen vanished,
> I've shut Legacy down and reopened and did a File Maintenance, and the
> glitch persists.
> This problem only occurs with the Burial event, nothing else.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Brian Lehman
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer and Clipboard

[Jenny M Benson]

On 21/08/2012 23:45, Sentz wrote:
> One of the reasons I bought Legacy was because of the sourcewriter and
> clipboard tools. I have been struggling with these tools for about a
> year.  I have rerun Geoff's start up Ultimate Guide on the topic and
> watched his various webinars where he uses the source writer and
> clipboard, including his most recent one, and have also read
> documentation.   I think I have the process down and then something goes
> haywire with the sourcewriter or the clipboard.  I am not a novice with
> data entry or relational data bases, so this is getting very
> frustrating. What I end up doing is not doing anything in the database
> for a while, take a breather and try again.
> The latest problemI was entering an alternate death event for my
> great grandmother.  I clicked on the tirangle and set up the master
> source which went okay.  Then I set up the detail including linking an
> image of the page from the death index that I had downloaded and cropped
> from Family Search.  Everything looked okay and I clicked save and then
> clicked the bar on the left on the window for the event detail.  Then
> saved the event. It's my understanding that a plus sign should show on
> the line following the event.  Am I correct? When I check on the
> documentation link for the record, the death citation information is not
> showing.  Also, in the event window, the data field labels were
> highlighted. Perhaps is this case it has to do with where I have the
> document image stored.
> I keep thinking that there must be some little step that I am not doing
> correctly.  Any advice would be welcome.

The + will be there if you have attached a picture to the Event, not if
you have attached it to the Source.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Gavin Nicholson]

I think the intent is clear. There is a 50% chance that the person will be at 
the specified location. This then allows you to filter out those individuals 
who are unlikely (<50%?) to be in the country being searched.



The problem is without knowing what causes the percentages to drop and by how 
much it is difficult to decide what value to set the cutoff at. Having said 
that as per my previous posts if you put in a residence in another country the 
percentage chance falls to around 10%. (That is, the programmers have decided 
that if someone was in England in 1851 and then you find they are in Australia 
in 1856 there is only a 10% chance they will have moved back and you will find 
them in 1861 in England)



My main issue (and yes I have submitted a suggestion) is that the weight 
appears too heavily to the children’s events. For example, if I had someone 
living for 50 years in one location (say 1851-1901) but I can’t find them in 
1911 but I do find their children in another country then Legacy will suggest 
looking for the parents in that other country with a high probability (eg. 
90%). I have been planning to set up a dummy file to play with scenarios such 
as what if 3 children all moved to different countries what does Legacy suggest 
then. When I do this I will post the results.



Hope this helps,

Gavin...



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 7:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options



Bruce,



The problem with this lack of information may just be be due to the way my mind 
works. I think mainly in pictures, so if I read, say, a percentage then I may 
see a slider set at that %, or a sliced orange, I’m sure that you get the idea, 
but usually I relate this to the context, and for 50% of a location I cannot do 
this. Basically I cannot picture the meaning from the information given, so it 
largely becomes meaningless.



The effect is that if I think of adjusting the probability selection I have no 
confidence in the possible outcome, because I do not know for certain what I am 
doing. I really do hope that Legacy will amend the Help file to make this 
option much more understandable.



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/








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Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

[Ron Ferguson]

Bruce,

The problem with this lack of information may just be be due to the way my mind 
works. I think mainly in pictures, so if I read, say, a percentage then I may 
see a slider set at that %, or a sliced orange, I’m sure that you get the idea, 
but usually I relate this to the context, and for 50% of a location I cannot do 
this. Basically I cannot picture the meaning from the information given, so it 
largely becomes meaningless.

The effect is that if I think of adjusting the probability selection I have no 
confidence in the possible outcome, because I do not know for certain what I am 
doing. I really do hope that Legacy will amend the Help file to make this 
option much more understandable.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Bruce Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

I completely agree that, once you understand the need for percentages, the 
information you mention would be very helpful.
I was trying to explain, in a simple way, why a percentage is even needed, 
which was a question I think someone asked.


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson  
wrote:

  Bruce,

  That is a very specific instance, and in my files one which is very rare.
  Given the multitude of options between a record at census a) and the
  possibility of finding someone in census b) living at the same place in my
  files is not very common, it would be more than useful to know what
  weighting Legacy puts on the Place field in Events, and/or which Events - or
  any other fields/Events for that matter, and what weighting is put onto
  other factors such as age etc..

  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/



  From: Bruce Jones
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:59 PM

  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options


  That should be no other "places" are entered in Legacy.


  On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Bruce Jones  wrote:

  Here is how I see it.
  Say a person was born in location A, and died in location B and no other
  dates are entered in Legacy..
  At the time of the census, he could have been living in A or B or somewhere
  else.
  The program has to "guess" where he was living at the time of the census.
  If the date of the census is closer to his birth than his death, the program
  will probably "guess" he was living at A during the census.
  But since his family could have moved immediately after his birth, the
  program can't be sure that is where he was during the census so it assigns a
  percentage. The closer the census date is to his birth date the higher the
  percentage.
  Make sense?



  On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Ron Ferguson 
  wrote:
  I agree that the Help Files description is very, very imprecise. I took my
  first degree in the sciences which included pure maths, and hence
  statistics. I still am not able to come to a definite conclusion as to the
  meaning in Help, nor can I safely conclude what is the best way of using the
  tool because of the lack of clarity. It has been mentioned before on this
  list, when we asked for at least an indication of the algorithm used to
  arrive at the percentage is given.

  Ron Ferguson
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/


  -Original Message-
  From: Don Brown
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:24 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census List options

  Percentage of probability



  Don Brown
  Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

  -Original Message-
  From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:20 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census List options

  Thanks, Randy, I guess I'm obtuse but I still don't get it!  What does
  "location percentage "
  mean? -- I thought percentages had to do with numbers, not with places.

  Percentage of what??

  Thanks,
  Pat

  On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Randy Clark  wrote:

  > Found in Legacy Help:
  >
  > *Exclude individuals from the Report with location percentages less
  > than X % *- Each location Legacy finds is given an estimated location

  > percentage dependent upon the location's date and how close was to the
  > census date.  Locations with low percentages can be excluded from the
  > census report by selecting a percentage value as the minimum acceptable.
  >
  >
  >
  > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
  >
  >> Whatever does this sentence in Census List > Report Options mean?
  >> "Exclude individuals from the Report with location percentages less
  >> than (50--or whatever) %"
  >>
  >> I never ever heard of a location percentage.
  >>
  >> Pat
  >>




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