Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Update

[Ian Macaulay]

Ok  Something is funny here,  I have version 8.0.0.595
Last Update 19 Apr 2017   18:29   Did I miss something  How did 598 come
out before 595?

Ian

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:

> Ian, what is your Legacy ‘build’? The latest was v8.0.0.598 – check Help >
> About, on the Legacy ribbon.
>
> The Windows 10 ‘Creators Update’, which occurred around 11 April (a week
> ago), ‘broke’ a couple of features in some programmes including Legacy
> Family Tree. I think this was mentioned a few days ago, in this forum –
> just checked: the availability of a new build that fixed that problem was
> posted by Michele/Support on Friday 14 April.
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Macaulay
> *Sent:* Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:10 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Windows Update
>
>
>
> Win 10 updated with some fancy name I don't remember but it seems that
> Legacy 8 is now failing to work properly.   I have no idea if these are
> related.   The sympton that I have and the only one I have tried, is I
> cannot add a child to the parents.  Cntr N  worked and I added the parents
> but when I try to add a child nothing.  Clicking on Click to add a child in
> Family view does nothing at all.
>
> Any Ideas?I can easily switch to 9 but Was hoping to get some work in
> before doing that.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> If I right Cclick on the father, he opens and if I left click on the
> father it does the same thing.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 connecting to Family Search

[Bob Austen]

Hi Debby,

Family Search works fine for me – using Win10.

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 connecting to Family Search

 

Debby,

Do you mean the Legacy FamilySearch module isn't working?
Or the new Hints - FamilySearch - test login?
There's some problem for some people with the Test Login. It's no longer 
working for me whereas throughout testing it worked if not the first time after 
two or three attempts.
I haven't seen a problem with the Legacy FamilySearch module.

Cathy

Debby Flood wrote:




Since I moved over, I cannot use the family search button to connect 
to FamilySearch.  I have reset my password, but it still does not work.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Software

[Cathy Pinner]

Mika,

To use Families on your iPad an iPhone, you need to get the app from the 
store and then go to

http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/
and get the Families Sync program for you computer.
That's what converts and syncs the databases.
It's not automatic.
You'll find more directions and videos on that website.

Cathy

Mika Bilich wrote:


I have several Legacy genealogy files on my desktop. Is there a way to 
get it on my iPad and iPhone and be able to sync them?
I bought Family Sync in the iTunes apps but I can't get it downloaded. 
The directions say to get it in the documents tab in iTunes but I 
don't see a document tab anywhere. Would rather just somehow download 
Legacy.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 connecting to Family Search

[Cathy Pinner]

Debby,

Do you mean the Legacy FamilySearch module isn't working?
Or the new Hints - FamilySearch - test login?
There's some problem for some people with the Test Login. It's no longer 
working for me whereas throughout testing it worked if not the first 
time after two or three attempts.

I haven't seen a problem with the Legacy FamilySearch module.

Cathy

Debby Flood wrote:


Since I moved over, I cannot use the family search button to connect
to FamilySearch. I have reset my password, but it still does not work.

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Re: [LegacyUG] User Key and Version compability

[Cathy Pinner]

Otso,

Yes the upgrade to version 9 removed your version 8 shortcuts on your 
taskbar as it's a new program.


Just pin it again.

No you can't use the customer codes for 8 for v9 or vice versa. They're 
really your proof of purchase.


If you actually mean can you use the same database/family file in both 
versions. No. The changes to the database have been too extensive from 8 
to 9. There have been previous versions of Legacy released where the old 
version was updated to read the files from the new version initially. 
But this wasn't done this time.


Cathy

Bob Austen wrote:


Hi Otto,

If you have v8 full key then you are likely using v8 Deluxe. If you
have the v9 key it would suggest that you have already purchased
version 9. Version 9 offers some upgrades and fixes to version 8, so
I would suggest simply doing the upgrade. The data files are not
compatible between the versions and v9 upgrades the old v8 database.
Probably making a copy of the database before upgrading would be a
good idea as, apparently, v9 ‘upgrades’ the database and is it no
longer readable by v8.

The ‘starting Legacy’ splash screen is optional through
Options/Customize/1.1/Display splash screen during program startup.

Bob

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User Key and Version compability:

Could it be possible use the ver 9 key to use the previous versions;
and use ver 9 with ver 8 full key, without the new ver 9 features?
AncestralQuest can handle this since many versions.

And installing ver 9 removes 'starting Legacy' from the task bar



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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Update

[Ian Thomas]

Ian, what is your Legacy ‘build’? The latest was v8.0.0.598 – check Help > 
About, on the Legacy ribbon.
The Windows 10 ‘Creators Update’, which occurred around 11 April (a week ago), 
‘broke’ a couple of features in some programmes including Legacy Family Tree. I 
think this was mentioned a few days ago, in this forum – just checked: the 
availability of a new build that fixed that problem was posted by 
Michele/Support on Friday 14 April.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Windows Update

Win 10 updated with some fancy name I don't remember but it seems that Legacy 8 
is now failing to work properly.   I have no idea if these are related.   The 
sympton that I have and the only one I have tried, is I cannot add a child to 
the parents.  Cntr N  worked and I added the parents but when I try to add a 
child nothing.  Clicking on Click to add a child in Family view does nothing at 
all.
Any Ideas?I can easily switch to 9 but Was hoping to get some work in 
before doing that.
Ian

If I right Cclick on the father, he opens and if I left click on the father it 
does the same thing.

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[LegacyUG] Legacy 9 connecting to Family Search

[Debby Flood]

Since I moved over, I cannot use the family search button to connect to
FamilySearch.  I have reset my password, but it still does not work.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running concurrently (different data file)?

[Ian Thomas]

Another 'solution' to having Legacy 8 Deluxe (NOT v7 or 7.5) and Legacy 9 
running on the same computer is to rename the family file (.fdb) within the 
installed Legacy v9, then install your v8 with its v8 Customer Number. This may 
require extraction of the "v8" files from the latest v8 backup ZIP files - 2 of 
them, both database and media. The newly-installed v8 would 'look for' the 
family file database files with the previous filenames; the v9 new install 
would 'know about' the renamed database.

Given the wide range of (in)experience of Legacy users exhibited here, I would 
warn that this does require some 'advanced' knowledge of computer use.

As expressed by Bob and Kris, I was surprised that the Legacy v8 was totally 
removed by the v9 install - except for the backup ZIP files and the database 
files, which Legacy v9 restructured so that v8 is not able to use them. I 
checked C:\Program Files (x86)\ folder, of course - and see only C:\Program 
Files (x86)\Legacy9\

As I wrote previously, there are a couple of glitches with the install, which I 
thought should not have happened from a professional organization. This is 
quite independent of testing by users and by the coders - but I would assume 
that user testers would have objected to this replacement.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia





-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 3:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running 
concurrently (different data file)?



I renamed my Legacy8 folders before installing v9 so I can now run both v8 and 
v9 concurrently (after naming the v8 files back to the original).  Of course 
the databases are different as v9 has converted the database to the new version 
- however, I had made copies of the database as well.



Some attributes of v9 show up in v8 now so There must be some overlap in the 
user file settings.



Any file changes made in v9 will not be reflected in the 'old' v8 database.

I would suggest that for most people not being able to run the two versions 
concurrently should not be an issue.  I have some family that won't be 
upgrading to v9 anytime soon and I still help them so I just wanted to be able 
to use the same version.



Bob



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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Kris

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:25 AM

To: Legacy User Group

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running 
concurrently (different data file)?



I agree with Robert, and taking it even further (sorry!), I disagree with the 
Sherry's statement (below).  While it is true that pretty much every program 
will install over an existing version for "updating," this is not the case for 
"upgrading."  Updates for v.8 should install in the Legacy 8 directory, but v.9 
shouldn't remove or install over an existing version of a different number -- 
it should have its own directory, as Robert indicates, and leave previous 
versions alone.



I don't recall ever installing a new version of a program that 
overwrites/deletes a previous version without asking for instructions from me 
first.  This case is particularly troubling since Legacy 8 and Legacy 9 have 
different directory names, and Legacy 8 is apparently "gone."  The installer 
seems to be doing something to Legacy 8 that it shouldn't be doing.



Any new version of a program is going to have issues -- some more significant 
than others -- and users shouldn't be required to commit until these bugs are 
found and corrected.  Anyone who installs a brand new version in its infancy is 
basically beta testing and it's the user who should be in control of that role.



I think it's great that Legacy support posted information about good practices 
(backup, check file, etc.), but there are good practices for software 
developers, too.



I'm not sure why it's set up this way, but don't think saving "support a lot of 
headaches" would be the reason.  Obviously, it's just caused new and different 
ones.  :-D



I've looked through the new features, and v.9 isn't for me unless the report 
formatting problems have been fixed this time.



On 4/19/2017 10:41 AM, Robert57P_gmail wrote:

> Sherry,

>

> While technically it really doesn't matter, but I beg to differ with

> your comment.

> My Legacy 8 was installed at:

> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8

>

> My Legacy 9 got installed to:

> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy9

>

> Note the version # at the very end of the folder name.  So Legacy 9 is

> either deleting the old Legacy8 folders, or it is renaming them.

>

> Seeing the different folder names is why I thought I was safe, why I

> thought I'd be able to have both 8 (deluxe) and 9 (basic) installed at

> the same time.

>

> I realize that "installing on top of" the old version (or "installing

>

[LegacyUG] Software

[Mika Bilich]

I have several Legacy genealogy files on my desktop. Is there a way to get it 
on my iPad and iPhone and be able to sync them?
I bought Family Sync in the iTunes apps but I can't get it downloaded. The 
directions say to get it in the documents tab in iTunes but I don't see a 
document tab anywhere. Would rather just somehow download Legacy.

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[LegacyUG] Upgrade

[Jill Baty]

Hi it took me awhile to figure out the upgrade install.  Each time I tried to 
convert my file and backup, nothing happened.  I finally opted not to backup, 
and to just convert the old files, and it worked.  

Best Regards,
Jill A Baty



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[LegacyUG] Windows Update

[Ian Macaulay]

Win 10 updated with some fancy name I don't remember but it seems that
Legacy 8 is now failing to work properly.   I have no idea if these are
related.   The sympton that I have and the only one I have tried, is I
cannot add a child to the parents.  Cntr N  worked and I added the parents
but when I try to add a child nothing.  Clicking on Click to add a child in
Family view does nothing at all.

Any Ideas?I can easily switch to 9 but Was hoping to get some work in
before doing that.

Ian

If I right Cclick on the father, he opens and if I left click on the father
it does the same thing.

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Re: [LegacyUG] User Key and Version compability

[Bob Austen]

Hi Otto,

If you have v8 full key then you are likely using v8 Deluxe. If you have the v9 
key it would suggest that you have already purchased version 9.  Version 9 
offers some upgrades and fixes to version 8, so I would suggest simply doing 
the upgrade.  The data files are not compatible between the versions and v9 
upgrades the old v8 database.  Probably making a copy of the database before 
upgrading would be a good idea as, apparently, v9 ‘upgrades’ the database and 
is it no longer readable by v8.

 

The ‘starting Legacy’ splash screen is optional through 
Options/Customize/1.1/Display splash screen during program startup. 

 

Bob

 

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Behalf Of Otso Havu
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software
Subject: [LegacyUG] User Key and Version compability

 

User Key and Version compability:

Could it be possible use the ver 9 key to use the previous versions; and use 
ver 9 with ver 8 full key, without the new ver 9 features? AncestralQuest can 
handle this  since many versions.

And installing ver 9 removes 'starting Legacy' from the task bar

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Still Window$ only?

[Ronald Bernier]

You can purchase Families for iOS.  With Families (available in the App Store), 
you can sync your Legacy database to the Families app.  With Families, you can 
enter data in the app and sync the changes back to your Legacy database.

(Not associated with TelGen/Families, just a very satisfied customer.)

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Wes Jester  wrote:
> 
> Looking at the release notes, it seems that ver. 9 is still a windows only 
> piece of software.  I would love to be able to run it on my iPad as it is 
> that device which goes with me everywhere when I interview relatives or do 
> research.
> 
> Is there any way I can run it on my iPad?  I would hate to have to move to 
> other software after several years with legacy.
> 
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[LegacyUG] Still Window$ only?

[Wes Jester]

Looking at the release notes, it seems that ver. 9 is still a windows only
piece of software.  I would love to be able to run it on my iPad as it is
that device which goes with me everywhere when I interview relatives or do
research.

Is there any way I can run it on my iPad?  I would hate to have to move to
other software after several years with legacy.

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[LegacyUG] User Key and Version compability

[Otso Havu]

User Key and Version compability:

Could it be possible use the ver 9 key to use the previous versions; and
use ver 9 with ver 8 full key, without the new ver 9 features?
AncestralQuest can handle this  since many versions.

And installing ver 9 removes 'starting Legacy' from the task bar


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Re: [LegacyUG] Contact Legacy to get my membership number

[Sherry]

They're swamped. Email *either* supp...@legacyfamilytree.com or
sa...@legacyfamilytree.com. Please, not both!!!

Sherry



On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Cynthia N. Russell <
fergusresearc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a phone number for Legacy tech?  I have tried the steps suggested
> and I am getting no where.  Time is limited for me as I depart tomorrow
> with laptop and Legacy that needs to be updated and backed up before I
> depart, but can't.
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> C Russell
>
> Cynthia Dodd Nichols Russell
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help (Legacy 9)

[Jenny M Benson]

On 19-Apr-17 03:41 PM, Leon Chapman wrote:

Others have had success by closing Legacy 9 and rebooting your Windows
PC and then going back into Legacy 9 and help seems to work ok.



Thank you, Leon.  It was as simple as that!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running concurrently (different data file)?

[Bob Austen]

I renamed my Legacy8 folders before installing v9 so I can now run both v8
and v9 concurrently (after naming the v8 files back to the original).  Of
course the databases are different as v9 has converted the database to the
new version - however, I had made copies of the database as well.  

Some attributes of v9 show up in v8 now so There must be some overlap in the
user file settings.

Any file changes made in v9 will not be reflected in the 'old' v8 database.
I would suggest that for most people not being able to run the two versions
concurrently should not be an issue.  I have some family that won't be
upgrading to v9 anytime soon and I still help them so I just wanted to be
able to use the same version.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Kris
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:25 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running
concurrently (different data file)?

I agree with Robert, and taking it even further (sorry!), I disagree 
with the Sherry's statement (below).  While it is true that pretty much 
every program will install over an existing version for "updating," this 
is not the case for "upgrading."  Updates for v.8 should install in the 
Legacy 8 directory, but v.9 shouldn't remove or install over an existing 
version of a different number -- it should have its own directory, as 
Robert indicates, and leave previous versions alone.

I don't recall ever installing a new version of a program that 
overwrites/deletes a previous version without asking for instructions 
from me first.  This case is particularly troubling since Legacy 8 and 
Legacy 9 have different directory names, and Legacy 8 is apparently 
"gone."  The installer seems to be doing something to Legacy 8 that it 
shouldn't be doing.

Any new version of a program is going to have issues -- some more 
significant than others -- and users shouldn't be required to commit 
until these bugs are found and corrected.  Anyone who installs a brand 
new version in its infancy is basically beta testing and it's the user 
who should be in control of that role.

I think it's great that Legacy support posted information about good 
practices (backup, check file, etc.), but there are good practices for 
software developers, too.

I'm not sure why it's set up this way, but don't think saving "support a 
lot of headaches" would be the reason.  Obviously, it's just caused new 
and different ones.  :-D

I've looked through the new features, and v.9 isn't for me unless the 
report formatting problems have been fixed this time.

On 4/19/2017 10:41 AM, Robert57P_gmail wrote:
> Sherry,
>
> While technically it really doesn't matter, but I beg to differ with
> your comment.
> My Legacy 8 was installed at:
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8
>
> My Legacy 9 got installed to:
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy9
>
> Note the version # at the very end of the folder name.  So Legacy 9 is
> either deleting the old Legacy8 folders, or it is renaming them.
>
> Seeing the different folder names is why I thought I was safe, why I
> thought I'd be able to have both 8 (deluxe) and 9 (basic) installed at
> the same time.
>
> I realize that "installing on top of" the old version (or "installing
> and DELETING/RENAMING old version as Legacy 9 apparently does") saves
> support a lot of headaches - I remember many forum e-mails from people
> going from 7 to 8 that kept getting confused on which icon to use, which
> datafile to use, etc.  But since all(?) previous versions of Legacy
> allowed the old version to stay in place, this version should either do
> the same ('cause that is what Legacy users are used to) OR it should
> give an obvious warning that version 8 will NOT be available after the
> install.  A blatant warning is ESPECIALLY important since the program
> folder names are different and thus the install (as it is now) IMPLIES
> that version 8 will be "safe and usable" after version 9 is installed.
> (And, if it could offer to leave version 8 around that would even be
> better).
>
> If I had known my version 8 would be blown away, I would have initially
> installed version 9 in a "sandbox" (VM machine) until I was truly ready
> to do the real upgrade.
>
> Bob
>
> On 04/18/2017 20:48, Sherry wrote:
>> Margaret,
>>
>> v9 doesn't "delete" v8 - it installs over it, like practically every
>> other program does when upgrading.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Cathy,  

 

As usual your are the genius.  That worked, so I guess it is a bug when is 
won’t work with the other setting.

 

Many thanks,

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

 

Bob,

Do it from either Tools - Potential Problems or Reports - Other Reports - 
Potential Problems.

I think the changes are sticking there. Sorry I haven't had a chance to look at 
it further yet but I will.

Cathy

Bob Austen wrote:




Thanks Ian, Cathy,

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to 
default – I can’t find a way to save changes.

Bob

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the firs t gap 
setting - warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any 
particular ones not holding for you?

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob 
lems/ Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to 
ages, click on Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then 
reopen 'Change Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at 
the d efault
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen

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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running concurrently (different data file)?

[Kris]

I agree with Robert, and taking it even further (sorry!), I disagree 
with the Sherry's statement (below).  While it is true that pretty much 
every program will install over an existing version for "updating," this 
is not the case for "upgrading."  Updates for v.8 should install in the 
Legacy 8 directory, but v.9 shouldn't remove or install over an existing 
version of a different number -- it should have its own directory, as 
Robert indicates, and leave previous versions alone.


I don't recall ever installing a new version of a program that 
overwrites/deletes a previous version without asking for instructions 
from me first.  This case is particularly troubling since Legacy 8 and 
Legacy 9 have different directory names, and Legacy 8 is apparently 
"gone."  The installer seems to be doing something to Legacy 8 that it 
shouldn't be doing.


Any new version of a program is going to have issues -- some more 
significant than others -- and users shouldn't be required to commit 
until these bugs are found and corrected.  Anyone who installs a brand 
new version in its infancy is basically beta testing and it's the user 
who should be in control of that role.


I think it's great that Legacy support posted information about good 
practices (backup, check file, etc.), but there are good practices for 
software developers, too.


I'm not sure why it's set up this way, but don't think saving "support a 
lot of headaches" would be the reason.  Obviously, it's just caused new 
and different ones.  :-D


I've looked through the new features, and v.9 isn't for me unless the 
report formatting problems have been fixed this time.


On 4/19/2017 10:41 AM, Robert57P_gmail wrote:

Sherry,

While technically it really doesn't matter, but I beg to differ with
your comment.
My Legacy 8 was installed at:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8

My Legacy 9 got installed to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy9

Note the version # at the very end of the folder name.  So Legacy 9 is
either deleting the old Legacy8 folders, or it is renaming them.

Seeing the different folder names is why I thought I was safe, why I
thought I'd be able to have both 8 (deluxe) and 9 (basic) installed at
the same time.

I realize that "installing on top of" the old version (or "installing
and DELETING/RENAMING old version as Legacy 9 apparently does") saves
support a lot of headaches - I remember many forum e-mails from people
going from 7 to 8 that kept getting confused on which icon to use, which
datafile to use, etc.  But since all(?) previous versions of Legacy
allowed the old version to stay in place, this version should either do
the same ('cause that is what Legacy users are used to) OR it should
give an obvious warning that version 8 will NOT be available after the
install.  A blatant warning is ESPECIALLY important since the program
folder names are different and thus the install (as it is now) IMPLIES
that version 8 will be "safe and usable" after version 9 is installed.
(And, if it could offer to leave version 8 around that would even be
better).

If I had known my version 8 would be blown away, I would have initially
installed version 9 in a "sandbox" (VM machine) until I was truly ready
to do the real upgrade.

Bob

On 04/18/2017 20:48, Sherry wrote:

Margaret,

v9 doesn't "delete" v8 - it installs over it, like practically every
other program does when upgrading.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running concurrently (different data file)?

[Ernie Anderson]

Why don't you install 8 on a flash drive and remove it and then install 9
on your hard drive., then you can run them both at the same time.
Ernie

You will always have neighbors, but not parents!

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Robert57P_gmail 
wrote:

> Sherry,
>
> While technically it really doesn't matter, but I beg to differ with your
> comment.
> My Legacy 8 was installed at:
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8
>
> My Legacy 9 got installed to:
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy9
>
> Note the version # at the very end of the folder name.  So Legacy 9 is
> either deleting the old Legacy8 folders, or it is renaming them.
>
> Seeing the different folder names is why I thought I was safe, why I
> thought I'd be able to have both 8 (deluxe) and 9 (basic) installed at the
> same time.
>
> I realize that "installing on top of" the old version (or "installing and
> DELETING/RENAMING old version as Legacy 9 apparently does") saves support a
> lot of headaches - I remember many forum e-mails from people going from 7
> to 8 that kept getting confused on which icon to use, which datafile to
> use, etc.  But since all(?) previous versions of Legacy allowed the old
> version to stay in place, this version should either do the same ('cause
> that is what Legacy users are used to) OR it should give an obvious warning
> that version 8 will NOT be available after the install.  A blatant warning
> is ESPECIALLY important since the program folder names are different and
> thus the install (as it is now) IMPLIES that version 8 will be "safe and
> usable" after version 9 is installed.  (And, if it could offer to leave
> version 8 around that would even be better).
>
> If I had known my version 8 would be blown away, I would have initially
> installed version 9 in a "sandbox" (VM machine) until I was truly ready to
> do the real upgrade.
>
> Bob
>
> On 04/18/2017 20:48, Sherry wrote:
>
>> Margaret,
>>
>> v9 doesn't "delete" v8 - it installs over it, like practically every
>> other program does when upgrading.
>>
>> You can run v7 and v9 side-by-side but the files are not compatible. You
>> will have to covert a v7 file to the v9 format and in v9 you will need to
>> make a gedcom to import into v7, which can lose several things like shared
>> events, hashtags, history list, bookmarks, relationships, etc.
>>
>> Did you realize that LTools doesn't fully support the v7 database,
>> particularly events? It should work with the v8 or v9 database (except for
>> events). I haven't tried it yet.
>>
>> Sherry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Margaret Turner > > wrote:
>>
>> I understand installing v9 deletes v8.
>>  I would like to have both versions instlled.
>> I would do changes in v7, and when required, copy legacy data file
>> and open it (ie no updates) in 9.
>> Then I would go back to work on v7 data using v7
>>
>> I am dependent on ltools.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Contact Legacy to get my membership number

[Michele/Support]

Here is the link for the upgrade information…

 

http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/upgrade-to-legacy-9-c335.php  

 

You will use your Legacy 8 customer number to get the upgrade pricing.  If you 
send an email to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com 
  and put ATTN: Michele I will pull the 
ticket so that I can get your Legacy 8 customer number to you quickly.

 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

  www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cynthia N. Russell
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:07 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Contact Legacy to get my membership number

 

Is there a phone number for Legacy tech?  I have tried the steps suggested and 
I am getting no where.  Time is limited for me as I depart tomorrow with laptop 
and Legacy that needs to be updated and backed up before I depart, but can't.

 

Thanking you in advance,

C Russell




Cynthia Dodd Nichols Russell

great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone, 
IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA

great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783 Pennsylvania/USA 
-1855 Ohio/USA

The Village at Bay Ridge, 3950 Scenic Ridge Drive, #317, Traverse City, MI 
(Michigan) 49684/USA, new phone number 231.463.4343  FaceBook: Cynthia 
Nichols Russell

fergusresearc...@gmail.com  

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Sherry mailto:hot.rod.w...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Your v8 number won't unlock the Deluxe features for v9. You'll need to order an 
upgrade to get a v9 Deluxe number.

However you do need it to purchase the upgrade Support can give you that 
information.

 

Sherry

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Cynthia N. Russell 
mailto:fergusresearc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Since purchasing Legacy 8.0 I have moved and have no idea where my CD might be 
or if I purchased it through a download.  I vaguely remember doing that . . . 
but, where my number is, I have no idea.  I already downloaded the Standard 
edition of 9.0. Do I need to reinstall 8.0 to find the number?

 

I need very simple steps to follow as I am 78 years young.

 

Thanking you in advance for your assistance and suggestions!

 

C.N. Russell

 

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Can I have both Legacy 7 and Legacy 9 running concurrently (different data file)?

[Robert57P_gmail]

Sherry,

While technically it really doesn't matter, but I beg to differ with 
your comment.

My Legacy 8 was installed at:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy8

My Legacy 9 got installed to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Legacy9

Note the version # at the very end of the folder name.  So Legacy 9 is 
either deleting the old Legacy8 folders, or it is renaming them.


Seeing the different folder names is why I thought I was safe, why I 
thought I'd be able to have both 8 (deluxe) and 9 (basic) installed at 
the same time.


I realize that "installing on top of" the old version (or "installing 
and DELETING/RENAMING old version as Legacy 9 apparently does") saves 
support a lot of headaches - I remember many forum e-mails from people 
going from 7 to 8 that kept getting confused on which icon to use, which 
datafile to use, etc.  But since all(?) previous versions of Legacy 
allowed the old version to stay in place, this version should either do 
the same ('cause that is what Legacy users are used to) OR it should 
give an obvious warning that version 8 will NOT be available after the 
install.  A blatant warning is ESPECIALLY important since the program 
folder names are different and thus the install (as it is now) IMPLIES 
that version 8 will be "safe and usable" after version 9 is installed.  
(And, if it could offer to leave version 8 around that would even be 
better).


If I had known my version 8 would be blown away, I would have initially 
installed version 9 in a "sandbox" (VM machine) until I was truly ready 
to do the real upgrade.


Bob

On 04/18/2017 20:48, Sherry wrote:

Margaret,

v9 doesn't "delete" v8 - it installs over it, like practically every 
other program does when upgrading.


You can run v7 and v9 side-by-side but the files are not compatible. 
You will have to covert a v7 file to the v9 format and in v9 you will 
need to make a gedcom to import into v7, which can lose several things 
like shared events, hashtags, history list, bookmarks, relationships, etc.


Did you realize that LTools doesn't fully support the v7 database, 
particularly events? It should work with the v8 or v9 database (except 
for events). I haven't tried it yet.


Sherry



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Margaret Turner > wrote:


I understand installing v9 deletes v8.
 I would like to have both versions instlled.
I would do changes in v7, and when required, copy legacy data file
and open it (ie no updates) in 9.
Then I would go back to work on v7 data using v7

I am dependent on ltools.

Thanks

:)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Contact Legacy to get my membership number

[Cynthia N. Russell]

Is there a phone number for Legacy tech?  I have tried the steps suggested
and I am getting no where.  Time is limited for me as I depart tomorrow
with laptop and Legacy that needs to be updated and backed up before I
depart, but can't.

Thanking you in advance,
C Russell

Cynthia Dodd Nichols Russell
great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone,
IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783
Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA
The Village at Bay Ridge, 3950 Scenic Ridge Drive, #317, Traverse City, MI
(Michigan) 49684/USA, *new phone number* 231.463.4343  FaceBook:
Cynthia Nichols Russell
fergusresearc...@gmail.com

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Sherry  wrote:

> Your v8 number won't unlock the Deluxe features for v9. You'll need to
> order an upgrade to get a v9 Deluxe number.
>
> However you do need it to purchase the upgrade Support can give you
> that information.
>
> Sherry
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Cynthia N. Russell <
> fergusresearc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since purchasing Legacy 8.0 I have moved and have no idea where my CD
>> might be or if I purchased it through a download.  I vaguely remember doing
>> that . . . but, where my number is, I have no idea.  I already downloaded
>> the Standard edition of 9.0. Do I need to reinstall 8.0 to find the number?
>>
>> I need very simple steps to follow as I am 78 years young.
>>
>> Thanking you in advance for your assistance and suggestions!
>>
>> C.N. Russell
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Cathy Pinner]

Bob,

Do it from either Tools - Potential Problems or Reports - Other Reports 
- Potential Problems.


I think the changes are sticking there. Sorry I haven't had a chance to 
look at it further yet but I will.


Cathy

Bob Austen wrote:


Thanks Ian, Cathy,

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to
default – I can’t find a way to save changes.

Bob

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the first gap
setting - warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any
particular ones not holding for you?

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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On Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob
lems/ Change Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to
ages, click on Set All, the changes are not saved. (Just close then
reopen 'Change Potential Problem Settings' and all changes are back at
the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help (Legacy 9)

[Keith Drury Myers]

Hi Jenny,

I  had the same problem but having now applied the two updates it 
appears to work fine.


Keith

On 19/04/17 15:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
I have just installed Legacy 9  De-Luxe on mny 64-bit Win 10 system 
and cannot access any Help.   I get a long and complex web page from 
Microsoft that first of all tells me Windows Help won't work with ~Win 
10 and then follows up with a load of complex instructions and dire 
warnings.


Help worked fine with Legacy 8 on this system and I can't believe the 
Legacy developers have stepped back into the past, so can someone give 
me simple directions to restore Help functionality, please.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help (Legacy 9)

[Leon Chapman]

Others have had success by closing Legacy 9 and rebooting your Windows PC
and then going back into Legacy 9 and help seems to work ok.

___
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On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

> I have just installed Legacy 9  De-Luxe on mny 64-bit Win 10 system and
> cannot access any Help.   I get a long and complex web page from Microsoft
> that first of all tells me Windows Help won't work with ~Win 10 and then
> follows up with a load of complex instructions and dire warnings.
>
> Help worked fine with Legacy 8 on this system and I can't believe the
> Legacy developers have stepped back into the past, so can someone give me
> simple directions to restore Help functionality, please.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Emdash rendered '97

[Bob Austen]

Hi Jennifer,

 

The emdash 'problem' cleared up for me about a month ago.  I use FoxPro and
they had a 'Copy Plaint Text' feature that worked great however, on their
latest version, it stopped working and they no longer supported other party
fixes.  A couple months later it no longer happened. I thought it was Legacy
that heeded my call.  Any copied text now comes across with ALL formatting
removed including tabs, so it is very basic text.  This continues in V9.

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 1:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Emdash rendered '97

 

First I would like to say I really like V9, especially the new Hints
function.

I do have a question about the My heritage hints. I currently have a My
Heritage subscription but wonder whether I will be able to view the hints in
full without a subscription.

 

My main problem so far with V9 after having converted from v 7.5 (I skipped
v 8) is that in my notes, emdash is rendered as '97. I have dozens of these
in notes obtained from old newspaper transcripts. Is there a way I can stop
them appearing this way?

 

Jennifer

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[LegacyUG] Help (Legacy 9)

[Jenny M Benson]

I have just installed Legacy 9  De-Luxe on mny 64-bit Win 10 system and 
cannot access any Help.   I get a long and complex web page from 
Microsoft that first of all tells me Windows Help won't work with ~Win 
10 and then follows up with a load of complex instructions and dire 
warnings.


Help worked fine with Legacy 8 on this system and I can't believe the 
Legacy developers have stepped back into the past, so can someone give 
me simple directions to restore Help functionality, please.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Ian, Cathy, 

 

Restart doesn’t help.

It is the age Warnings (8.11) and any/all of the ages go back to default – I 
can’t find a way to save changes.

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

 

Bob,
I didn't even remember you could change the criteria there.
They seem to be holding for the ones I've tried except the first gap setting - 
warn if first child born less than x months after marriage.

I'll check it further and add the bug report but are there any particular ones 
not holding for you? 

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:




Perhaps it is necessary to restart Legacy? (I'm guessing)

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Bob Austen
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems - changing settings

In v9, if I go to Customize/ 8. View/ 8.11 Monitor Potential Prob lems/ Change 
Potential Problems Settings/ Warnings, make changes to ages, click on Set All, 
the changes are not saved. (Just close then reopen 'Change Potential Problem 
Settings' and all changes are back at the default
settings.)

What am I doing wrong? Or have I found a bug?

Bob Austen

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle persons who change surname?

[Ian Thomas]

Thx Brian - that all sounds sensible to me, so I will try it out. A Name Change 
Event (if it doesn’t exist, can be created) with legal docs or not covers the 
range of situations, I think. 

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 9:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle persons who change surname?

Here is my two cents on this:

For Him I would use his birth name and enter a Name Change Event (you may need 
to create this I have not checked if legacy has a name Change event by 
default). With the Name Change Event you can enter the date when the name 
changed and provide source documentation (court proceedings, application, 
however it was documented). If you want his current name used in reports you 
will have to Add the new name as an AKA (which you can also source but cannot 
date) then switch the AKA with the original name.

For the children simply use his current Surname as their Surname. Legacy 
proposes the Father's surname for a child when adding children but you are free 
to change that to whatever applies. I think that there is even a setting in 
Options where you can turn off the automatic Father's surname but I have not 
taken the time to look. Some cultures do not use the Father's surname for 
children and the turn off of the father surname option exists for users in 
those areas of the world.

Brian Kelly

On 19-Apr-17 2:33 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> I’m sure this has a simple procedure in Legacy, but I haven’t understood how 
> to document it clearly – and without merely putting text into a Note.
> A still living male person (my related records kept Private, of course) 
> changed his surname from (say) SMITH to JONES about 10 years ago, and 
> thereafter the couple’s 2 young children use the same surname JONES.
> Leaving aside the legalities in Australia – just assuming this is “in 
> practice” – how would I document the 4 persons? (of course, my records for 
> his wife are tied to her maiden name) There are other cases I know of, going 
> back 50+ years, where a son adopted his mother’s maiden (surname) as his 
> surname, some time after his father remarried; and where many in the New 
> Zealand LANDELLS family adopted their mother’s maiden name after she died of 
> typhoid early in the family’s emigration from England to Australia. In this 
> latter case, the name of the ship on which the family sailed had the same 
> name (Douglas) as the mother’s surname.
>
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to handle persons who change surname?

[Brian Kelly]

Here is my two cents on this:

For Him I would use his birth name and enter a Name Change Event (you 
may need to create this I have not checked if legacy has a name Change 
event by default). With the Name Change Event you can enter the date 
when the name changed and provide source documentation (court 
proceedings, application, however it was documented). If you want his 
current name used in reports you will have to Add the new name as an AKA 
(which you can also source but cannot date) then switch the AKA with the 
original name.


For the children simply use his current Surname as their Surname. Legacy 
proposes the Father's surname for a child when adding children but you 
are free to change that to whatever applies. I think that there is even 
a setting in Options where you can turn off the automatic Father's 
surname but I have not taken the time to look. Some cultures do not use 
the Father's surname for children and the turn off of the father surname 
option exists for users in those areas of the world.


Brian Kelly

On 19-Apr-17 2:33 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:

I’m sure this has a simple procedure in Legacy, but I haven’t understood how to 
document it clearly – and without merely putting text into a Note.
A still living male person (my related records kept Private, of course) changed 
his surname from (say) SMITH to JONES about 10 years ago, and thereafter the 
couple’s 2 young children use the same surname JONES.
Leaving aside the legalities in Australia – just assuming this is “in practice” 
– how would I document the 4 persons? (of course, my records for his wife are 
tied to her maiden name)
There are other cases I know of, going back 50+ years, where a son adopted his 
mother’s maiden (surname) as his surname, some time after his father remarried; 
and where many in the New Zealand LANDELLS family adopted their mother’s maiden 
name after she died of typhoid early in the family’s emigration from England to 
Australia. In this latter case, the name of the ship on which the family sailed 
had the same name (Douglas) as the mother’s surname.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia






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Re: [LegacyUG] Emdash rendered '97

[Brian Kelly]

If you have a subscription to MyHeritage you should have a login option 
in the top right of the Hints screen at their website. Once you log in 
you will have all the access allowed by your subscription. My 
understanding is that MyHeritage has differing subscription levels so 
you are only allowed to see data within the limits of your subscription.


If you do not have a subscription or account when you click to review, a 
Hint MyHeritage will send you to a screen where you are asked to create 
an account. They do have a Free Account I understand which allows access 
to a limited set of records but only paid subscribers are allowed access 
to data behind their "paywall".


FindMyPast and Genealogy.com works in the same way. You need an account 
or a paid subscription in order to access the details for the Hints they 
provide and only records which are within the limits of your account 
will be available for you to see the details.


The problem with the Emdash (and also with the Endash) is a known issue. 
According to the problem report Legacy is inconsistent in treatment of 
these characters. General Notes handle them correctly but most other 
notes such as Event notes and source detail text do not. There are also 
other issues reported with Emdash and Endash including some which cause 
Legacy to stop responding.


Brian Kelly

On 19-Apr-17 4:39 AM, Jennifer Crockett wrote:

First I would like to say I really like V9, especially the new Hints
function.

I do have a question about the My heritage hints. I currently have a My
Heritage subscription but wonder whether I will be able to view the hints in
full without a subscription.

My main problem so far with V9 after having converted from v 7.5 (I skipped
v 8) is that in my notes, emdash is rendered as '97. I have dozens of these
in notes obtained from old newspaper transcripts. Is there a way I can stop
them appearing this way?

Jennifer



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[LegacyUG] Emdash rendered '97

[Jennifer Crockett]

First I would like to say I really like V9, especially the new Hints
function.

I do have a question about the My heritage hints. I currently have a My
Heritage subscription but wonder whether I will be able to view the hints in
full without a subscription.

 

My main problem so far with V9 after having converted from v 7.5 (I skipped
v 8) is that in my notes, emdash is rendered as '97. I have dozens of these
in notes obtained from old newspaper transcripts. Is there a way I can stop
them appearing this way?

 

Jennifer

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