Re: [LegacyUG] Find a Grave Options

[Cathy Pinner]

Stop right clicking on it.

On the Quick Access Toolbar you click slightly to the side of the icon 
to get the full range of options.
On the Internet Ribbon Tab or My Toolbar you click on the bottom part of 
it to get the full range of options. Otherwise it goes straight to 
search for the current person.


Cathy

RogerC42--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
When I first went to the find a grave icon on Legacy I was offered 
three options: 1 - Search for the Current Person, 2- Make a list of 
those who have a find a grave ID number and 3 - make a list of those 
without a find a grave ID number. Now when I right click on the find a 
grave icon I get two options: 1 - Show quick access toolbar below the 
ribbon and 2 - Minimize the ribbon. How do I correct this?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events

[Itzhak Epstein]

Cathy,
Yes.  I am not so proficient in Legacy nomenclature.  I fully
understood why baptism and burial for which there may be documentation
are reasonable surrogates for birth and death respectively.
As for my aside about "cause of death", I was surprised by the
fifth default item in the family view screen.  Why is it so
important?  BTW:  RootsMagic includes this item (also burial
but not christening) in its default customizable data entry
screen.
It would have been nice if upon the establishment of a new Legacy family
file, we could be given suggested defaults and an immediate opportunity
to substitute events.  Yes.  I already know about the issue of
reports' templates.  
I mentioned my concerns to Legacy but they did not deem it a
priority.
I am looking for a genealogy database program to recommend to
collaborating relatives. The Master Genealogist, my own primary program,
is not suitable.  Legacy is my primary candidate but  I am
still reluctant to recommend it.
Itzhak

At 01:14 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Itzhak,
You are confusing the Family View screen which you can customise as you
have, with the Individual Information screen.
The Family View screen is just a display of your data.
The Individual Information screen is where you enter the data.
Note to enter Cause of Death you have to open the Notes icon and choose
the Medical tab. It doesn't have a data entry field on the Individual
Information screen.
Yes it takes more clicks or keyboard shortcuts to enter Occupation,
Residence and Immigration. 
There can be multiple events for all of those taking them out of
Events/Facts wouldn't be particularly helpful to most people.
Where they are, you have a lot of control how they are used.
People do not have that control over the "vital events" of
birth, baptism/christening, death and buried.
For my research the christening and buried fields are as important as the
birth and death fields for earlier generations as they are the dates that
were recorded. I will never know the birth or death dates of many people
because they weren't recorded anywhere. I know that shows a
Western/Christian bias. 
So I support the option to be able to define which birth
alternative/equivalent field is used so that people from other cultures
some use it.
Cathy
Itzhak Epstein wrote:

My individual information screen is already configured to show born,

died, residence, occupation, immigration.
Then, when I try to add a relative, I can easily baptize and bury 
her/him. If I want to indicate immigration, occupation or residence 
the event's entry screen can be found with a click and few additional

key strokes.
People are born and they die. Some are baptized and buried, but other

events may be more significant to the researcher or in her/his
culture.
I still do not understand why cause of death was given such prominent

billing in the individual information screen.
Itzhak

At 12:20 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:

On 01 May 2017 15:38, Bob Austen wrote:

Maybe I am missing your point…
You can change ‘Christened’ to another one of many choices,
including
‘Occupation’.

By clicking on the ‘event title’ brings up a screen where you
can
‘Customize Family View Information’. Then clicking on the box with
the
three dots in it you can change the event to one of
many.
I think that what Itzhak is talking about is on the Individual's 
Information screen, where he wants the option of replacing the Born,

Chr/Bap, Died and Buried dates/locations with other events that are 
more relevant to him and his research. Can't see it happening: people
are born, they live and die. What other Vital events can there
be?
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

[geodavis]

I just remembered that a few years back a user named Dennis (Kowalski, I think) 
from Zipper Software created a program named “LTools” that allowed slightly 
more advanced users to do some pretty neat stuff to their legacy data file. 
However, I just checked, and his website states that LTools has been retired.
George

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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 11:16 PM
To: Scott Hall; legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

I, too, had approximately 2,400 FAG#’s in the User ID field and just finished 
cutting & pasting them all into the FAG ID field. Wasn’t very fun. Sure 
would’ve been nice if I’d had some kind of script or something to do the job 
for me. Oh, well.
George

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From: Scott Hall
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

Hello ...
I am happy that v9 has a FAG data field and direct link to this well accepted 
and important genealogical tool.  For years I have been capturing FAG memorials 
in my Legacy file by copying the FAG memorial number into the UserID field.  
Now that there is a dedicated FAG memorial ID field, is there an easy way to 
mass copy the data from one field to the other?  I'd like to avoid retyping (or 
linking) every record connected to FAG in my file as there are over 4,500 
records with this data.
Thanks,
Scott


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Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

[geodavis]

I, too, had approximately 2,400 FAG#’s in the User ID field and just finished 
cutting & pasting them all into the FAG ID field. Wasn’t very fun. Sure 
would’ve been nice if I’d had some kind of script or something to do the job 
for me. Oh, well.
George

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From: Scott Hall
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

Hello ...
I am happy that v9 has a FAG data field and direct link to this well accepted 
and important genealogical tool.  For years I have been capturing FAG memorials 
in my Legacy file by copying the FAG memorial number into the UserID field.  
Now that there is a dedicated FAG memorial ID field, is there an easy way to 
mass copy the data from one field to the other?  I'd like to avoid retyping (or 
linking) every record connected to FAG in my file as there are over 4,500 
records with this data.
Thanks,
Scott

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Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Scott and Brian and others

Yes it is wonderful to have the FAG tool...
Yes I screened a lot of FAG sites over the years.
I was getting headstones sometime obits that included names of children,
etc.

Now I don't have to get headstones which saves a lot of work creating
additional events.

Yes after having the new tool I am having to re-visit a lot of sites to
incorporate the memorial number in my Legacy file.
But, it is all worth it.. I have a hashtag created for everyone with a
memorial number and it all exports in GEDCOM that I use on my TNG website.
* Instant link to FAG memorial

Still have a long way to go only have about 8400 so far done.

My comments
Henry

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:29 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

I am not aware of any global tool to perform this task inside legacy. If you
have MS Access or Open Office you may be able to do an update query to copy
the FAG number from those events to the FAG data.

Other wise you can search for those 5400 people with the Find A Grave Event,
tag them with a Hashtag or numeric tag and then go through each one copying
the numbers individually.

Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 5:21 PM, Scott Hall wrote:
> Hello ...
>
> I am happy that v9 has a FAG data field and direct link to this well 
> accepted and important genealogical tool.  For years I have been 
> capturing FAG memorials in my Legacy file by copying the FAG memorial 
> number into the UserID field.  Now that there is a dedicated FAG 
> memorial ID field, is there an easy way to mass copy the data from one 
> field to the other?  I'd like to avoid retyping (or linking) every 
> record connected to FAG in my file as there are over 4,500 records 
> with this data.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

[Brian Kelly]

I am not aware of any global tool to perform this task inside legacy. If 
you have MS Access or Open Office you may be able to do an update query 
to copy the FAG number from those events to the FAG data.


Other wise you can search for those 5400 people with the Find A Grave 
Event, tag them with a Hashtag or numeric tag and then go through each 
one copying the numbers individually.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 5:21 PM, Scott Hall wrote:

Hello ...

I am happy that v9 has a FAG data field and direct link to this well
accepted and important genealogical tool.  For years I have been
capturing FAG memorials in my Legacy file by copying the FAG memorial
number into the UserID field.  Now that there is a dedicated FAG
memorial ID field, is there an easy way to mass copy the data from one
field to the other?  I'd like to avoid retyping (or linking) every
record connected to FAG in my file as there are over 4,500 records with
this data.

Thanks,
Scott





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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Sherry,

 

Even primary document have errors. My maternal grandfather was born in 1880. 
Yet the official, primary county record give his gender as ‘female’ and his 
name as the female version.

 

As for the discussion being far from Legacy, not really. With a primary record 
that contains errors, what type of record evaluation would be best recorded in 
Legacy to acknowledge those errors? And, where would you identify/record the 
errors, with corresponding proof? And, don’t forget identifying the Surety 
Level of that primary document’ information.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​

​​

Sherry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[CE WOOD]

AMEN!! Again.


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:18 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
Sherry


On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch 
> wrote:
“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Bob Austen]

The ‘no trusting’ part goes for any site.  I accept the info then go about 
getting proof.  I wish I could come up  my example I recorded years ago where I 
had 8 differences on one page between the English church transcripts – 
Archdeacon’s and Bishop’s.  Which do you go by?  Additionally I have spent a 
lot of time at the LDS library in Salt Lake City and witnessed firsthand how 
the family trees are put together.  And online trees?  Bottom line, don’t 
accept anything as gospel – I will accept it and then set about 
proving/disproving it.

 

Bob Austen

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​

​​

Sherry

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch  
wrote:

“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”

A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.

When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.

Denise

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Sherry]

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on
Find A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but
that doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information
transcribed and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get
the *primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by
Find A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's
not always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they
posted bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have
no idea if the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​
​​
Sherry


On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch  wrote:

> “I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
>
> My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
>
> A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave.
> A family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any
> number of reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
>
> When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and
> identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances,
> with the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference
> between the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
>
> Denise
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

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When I first went to the find a grave icon on Legacy I was offered three 
options: 1 - Search for the Current Person, 2- Make a list of those who have a 
find a grave ID number and 3 - make a list of those without a find a grave ID 
number. Now when I right click on the find a grave icon I get two options: 1 - 
Show quick access toolbar below the ribbon and 2 - Minimize the ribbon. How do 
I correct this?



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To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Sent: Tue, May 2, 2017 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates



“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
Denise
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 2:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

AMEN!!!
 

CE

 



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates 

 



I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was 
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person is 
buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the benefits 
check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be used for 
either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two 
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I find 
the *primary* source!

Sherry

 

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr.  wrote:


Ian
I too have run across this… I use simple logic.
Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)
 
Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.
 
Henry
 
 
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Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
 


Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian







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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

"I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate"

A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number
of reasons as to how they had the wrong date.

When I've found such I've written the contributor to the memorial and
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference
between the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 2:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

AMEN!!!

 

CE

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of Sherry
 >
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates 

 

I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person
is buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the
benefits check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be
used for either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I
find the *primary* source!

Sherry

 

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr.  > wrote:

Ian

I too have run across this. I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates,
burial location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at
siblings, to see where there were buried.)

 

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

 

Henry

 

 

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 ] On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
mentally running through possible traps.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Ian Macaulay]

Yes I understand how FAG runs and I do try and keep my records in order.
When there are duplicates I flag them. I use events in legacy  and keep
both as Find A Grave memorial number 12345 & 54321  And send the edit
request to the parties involved but you never know which will be valid and
which not.

  Also some folks just do not exist and have duplicate memorials  such as
at Vimy and Balmoral, ( Just names for sake of discussion) Both are valid
but   I guess I just answered my own question.  However If you know the
data is wrong you should supply the correction.  The false data can change
history and its really incumbent on you to try and correct it.

Now How do I get the events to change to FAG numbers in the FAG Field.

Ian



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> Yes, you can. The earlier memorial takes precedence. Ideally, the later
> memorial is merged into the earlier one, but if the later contributor takes
> no heed, then you contact FAG. All is explained in their Help files.
>
>
> Cheers, Carolyn
>
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Brian Kelly 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:37 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
>
> You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event
> for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate
> memorial numbers.
>
> There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this
> and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some
> procedure to report the duplication.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> > Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> > new legacy field?
> > What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> > logged in Legacy?
> >
> > I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> > events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
> > Just mentally running through possible traps.
> >
> > Ian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[CE WOOD]

AMEN!!!


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was 
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person is 
buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the benefits 
check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be used for 
either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two 
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I find 
the *primary* source!

Sherry



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
> wrote:
Ian
I too have run across this… I use simple logic.
Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

Henry


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[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?
I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[CE WOOD]

Yes, you can. The earlier memorial takes precedence. Ideally, the later 
memorial is merged into the earlier one, but if the later contributor takes no 
heed, then you contact FAG. All is explained in their Help files.


Cheers, Carolyn



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Brian Kelly 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event
for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate
memorial numbers.

There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this
and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some
procedure to report the duplication.

Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> new legacy field?
> What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> logged in Legacy?
>
> I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
> Just mentally running through possible traps.
>
> Ian


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[LegacyUG] New Find-a-Grave feature

[Scott Hall]

Hello ...

I am happy that v9 has a FAG data field and direct link to this well
accepted and important genealogical tool.  For years I have been capturing
FAG memorials in my Legacy file by copying the FAG memorial number into the
UserID field.  Now that there is a dedicated FAG memorial ID field, is
there an easy way to mass copy the data from one field to the other?  I'd
like to avoid retyping (or linking) every record connected to FAG in my
file as there are over 4,500 records with this data.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Sherry]

I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that
was not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the
person is buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and
the benefits check went to me in Washington. So the location for death
can't be used for either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I
find the *primary* source!

Sherry



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
wrote:

> *Ian*
>
> *I too have run across this… I use simple logic.*
>
> *Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates,
> burial location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at
> siblings, to see where there were buried.)*
>
>
>
> *Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.*
>
>
>
> *Henry*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Macaulay
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
>
>
>
> Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> new legacy field?
>
> What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> logged in Legacy?
>
> I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
> mentally running through possible traps.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Brian Kelly]

You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event 
for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate 
memorial numbers.


There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this 
and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some 
procedure to report the duplication.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
new legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
Just mentally running through possible traps.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[CE WOOD]

You can add the other memorial in a source to whichever event the information 
pertains, or to the Unspecified Event.


Unfortunately, FAG is rife with duplicates and totally erroneous memorials.


Many contributors do not take the time and effort to thoroughly search before 
entering a new memorial; names are spelled in many different ways in many 
documents; FAG does not allow "about" years, and many contributors enter the 
"about" year as an actual year. Also realize that some duplicates are not 
cemeteries but cenotaphs (a tomblike monument to someone buried elsewhere). 
Also, some persons had their hearts buried in one place, their bodies in 
another, which can lead to memorials indentical except for the cemetery.


FAG is better for recent times when spelling is standardized and exact dates 
are known.



Cheers, Carolyn



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 12:20 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates


Ian

I too have run across this… I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)



Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.



Henry





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates



Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Ian

I too have run across this… I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)

 

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

 

Henry

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian






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[LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

[Ian Macaulay]

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
new legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
mentally running through possible traps.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

[John Zimmerman]

Thanks, Bob. I managed to overlook the entry on the purchase page.

John

Sent from my iPhone 5

> On May 2, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Robert57P_gmail  wrote:
> 
> On the "what's new" web site, in red, under each option that includes manuals 
> or CDs, it says:
> Printed book and CD to begin shipping 2nd week of May. PDF books are 
> available immediately after purchase.
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/WhatsNew9.asp
> 
> But on this purchase web page, it only shows up in normal text up near the 
> top:
> Legacy 9 user guides and CDs will begin shipping the 2nd week of May
> http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/legacy-products-c1.php
> So it is easy to overlook on that web page.
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On 05/02/2017 09:44, Brian Kelly wrote:
>> Since Sales and Customer service do not follow this list I doubt that he 
>> will get any answer unless the Tech Support people relay his query and the 
>> answer from sales.
>> 
>> Brian Kelly
>> 
>> On 02-May-17 9:38 AM, Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> Brian:
>> 
>> Because others might like to know too.
>> 
>> Howland Davis
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

[Robert57P_gmail]

On the "what's new" web site, in red, under each option that includes 
manuals or CDs, it says:
Printed book and CD to begin shipping 2nd week of May. PDF books are 
available immediately after purchase.

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/WhatsNew9.asp

But on this purchase web page, it only shows up in normal text up near 
the top:

Legacy 9 user guides and CDs will begin shipping the 2nd week of May
http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/legacy-products-c1.php
So it is easy to overlook on that web page.

Bob

On 05/02/2017 09:44, Brian Kelly wrote:
Since Sales and Customer service do not follow this list I doubt that 
he will get any answer unless the Tech Support people relay his query 
and the answer from sales.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 9:38 AM, Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
Brian:

 Because others might like to know too.

Howland Davis






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Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

[Brian Kelly]

Since Sales and Customer service do not follow this list I doubt that he 
will get any answer unless the Tech Support people relay his query and 
the answer from sales.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 9:38 AM, Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
Brian:

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Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

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 Because others might like to know too.
 
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Sent: Tue, May 2, 2017 7:42 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

Why did you send this to the list? It is a question only the Sales or 
Customer support people can answer.

Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 3:02 AM, hwedhlor wrote:
> It's now been a couple of weeks since I ordered Legacy 9 on disk and
> with a printed manual.  I'm aware that I can download both the program
> and the manual, however there was no indication in my order receipt as
> to when the product might actually ship.  Has the new version shipped
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> it to ship?
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> Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Cloud backup

(Legacy 9)



When you backup to the Legacy Cloud this is in addition to, not instead of,
your regular backup routine. The Legacy Cloud backup gives you an extra
layer of protection. You don't want this to be your only backup because it
only backs up your data file and not your media and it will overwrite the
previous backup so the only backup available will be your most current one.
The advantage to the cloud backup is that you can add this extra backup with
a simple check mark. The backup will be done at the same time with no extra
effort when you make your normal routine backups (and you should be backing
up routinely). The backup is saved to a secure server and no one has access
to it but you.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

[Brian Kelly]

Why did you send this to the list? It is a question only the Sales or 
Customer support people can answer.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 3:02 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

It's now been a couple of weeks since I ordered Legacy 9 on disk and
with a printed manual.  I'm aware that I can download both the program
and the manual, however there was no indication in my order receipt as
to when the product might actually ship.  Has the new version shipped
yet on disk and with the printed manual, and if not, when might I expect
it to ship?

Thanks,

John Zimmerman
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[LegacyUG] When will Legacy 9 disks & manuals ship?

[hwedhlor]

It's now been a couple of weeks since I ordered Legacy 9 on 
disk and with a printed manual.  I'm aware that I can 
download both the program and the manual, however there was 
no indication in my order receipt as to when the product 
might actually ship.  Has the new version shipped yet on 
disk and with the printed manual, and if not, when might I 
expect it to ship?


Thanks,

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ

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