Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing - Topic stopped
On 17/03/2015 20:04, Sherry/Support wrote: > I've received complaints about this thread not being on the topic of Legacy > and add-on programs. > > Please put a stop to this thread. It's gone beyond using Legacy with DNA > testing. Apologies. An opinion was sought and I gave mine which is seems I shouldn't have. I won't worry this list again. Bye -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing
On 17/03/2015 19:40, britton...@comcast.net wrote: > DNA certainly can be "infallible evidence". You've forgotten that it can be > exclusionary. I haven't forgotten anything and DNA is fallible. I certainly wouldn't junk 50 (fifty) years research just because someone with a financial interest in trying to "prove" my research was wrong so they could sell me more tests that also wouldn't "prove" anything. I know where my family came from, I don't need to waste £100+ for a third party to tell me. I have a line that goes back to about 1590 in Somerset. I also have a line that goes back to around 1360 in the Chiltern area. That is an interesting line because it was always believed to connect to a family in Sussex which connections to royalty. Did it? Nooo. They were a Cornish family with no firm evidence of a connection to the Sussex one at all. There was no DNA involved in that, just good and careful research. > You don't always get much for money spent on DNA testing... More a case of not getting anything for money wasted on DNA testing in my book. Where DNA can sometimes be useful is where there's a 100 or 150 year old murder and physical evidence is still extant, something of an achievement in itself. The murder is believed to be X but the physical evidence, when the DNA is analysed, says it doesn't match. X is therefore innocent and the offender is Y against whom no action can be taken because s/he has long since passed from this mortal coil. My husband and I have three daughters. The eldest is very like me. The younger two are carbon copies of each other. Not too surprising except they aren't full blood siblings. The eldest two are step sisters to the youngest and there is absolutely NO connection between the two families. I don't need DNA to tell me there isn't. I already know there isn't. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DNA testing
On 16/03/2015 14:19, adam allan wrote: > Was wondering if this testing using DNA is a valuable tool. > Ancestry.com is offering it and wanted some opinions on the > technology, tks. I'm going to buck the trend because as far as I'm concerned, DNA testing is a waste of time and money. To me, it's just a gimmick and the latest craze. It's not going to "prove" anything I don't already know and I'd be very sceptical about any alleged results. I'd rather spend the money of a test on a sub to The Genealogist. If DNA test results were the only "proof" of a supposed connection to a family I've never heard of before and to whom I can find no other connection, I would definitely NOT accept it as evidence of a family link. DNA is not infallible evidence. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report - in Word, etc. ?
On 06/03/2015 03:13, Stu and Priscilla Fanning wrote: > Thanks for all of your answers, Charani. > Thank you for letting me know that the document is not online. I > use Chrome for internet. In order to go to the document where I > had saved it in my computer, I had to click on an icon that looked > like the one for Chrome, so figured that it was online. > > I think I have figured out how to change the line length when using > Text file. I see that it has a box after those words with 80 in > it. I have changed that number several times...now to 170. It is > far better. I made the report with the page in landscape and then > copied it and pasted it into Word. There are still some things to > fix once it is in Word, but at least that can be done. > If there are any easier ways or something else that I should know > about how to do this, please pass that along. > Thanks very much, You're welcome :) If I think of anything I'll let you know :) A lot is trial and (a bit/lot) of error. If you've the time, experiment on various documents but keep a back up :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Print Surname Summary Report with Selection of Records?
On 04/03/2015 20:02, ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > Sorry, UK should be in lower case. As always, there are no spaces. You'd used your email address as part of the URL. That's why it didn't work. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report - in Word, etc. ?
On 05/03/2015 02:39, Stu and Priscilla Fanning wrote: > I tried the html first. I have two concerns. One is that the > lines seem to wrap the text before necessary -- in other words the > lines are short and then go on to the next line leaving a large > space on the right side of the document. You can reset the line length yourself. Everything on your computer and everything you use on your computer has a default, which are the "factory" settings. You can pretty much change those to whatever you want, so if the default line length is, say, 60 characters, you can change that to 80 characters or whatever you want. > More than that, though, it seems like the document is online. If you haven't physically uploaded your document to a website anywhere using an upload program of sort, it is NOT online. If you are composing the document on your computer, it's not going anywhere. If you are composing it on a blog site (eg Wordpress or similar), then, yes, it will be online. > Maybe I should have understood that before making it, but I did > not. I don't have permission from my family to put all of this > information online. What makes you think it is online? > How do I remove it?? Since it's unlikely to be online you won't need to. > I also tried the text file. This also seems to keep all of the > text on the left side of the page, wrapping the text before > necessary. Any thoughts? Again you can reset the line length yourself. Have a look in the settings. Look but don't do anything at first! See what there is, then change what you want to but remember what you've changed. Legacy is one of those lovely programs that allows you to reset to the defaults if you get in a muddle :) Bear in mind an HTML/RTF document is at least four times larger than a plain text document. You won't see all the coding on your computer but it's there. If your document isn't how you'd like, save it as it is, then make a copy and have a fiddle around with it to get it to be the way you want. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Married Names
On 04/03/2015 01:34, Cathy Pinner wrote: > Whatever you do it has to be clear to someone else. Just adding other > surnames in brackets or just tagged on to the Given Names is confusing. Surnames in brackets isn't all that confusing. I'm not the only one who does it :) It's less confusing that having a long list of people called UNKNOWN and not knowing with whom they are associated without going into their record. I don't use tagging. I can't see the point of it TBH. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list
On 03/03/2015 21:45, Jay Wilpolt wrote: > Then why not just add > Given name = UnknownM > Surname = Unknown > > Given name = UnknownF > Surname = Unknown > > When you dont have the information? > > This also helps to eliminate errors between data transfers when these > fields are 'expecting" data. Males are coloured blue and females red so I know which gender they are. If I want further clarification, I use Mr and Ms in the given name fields. I suppose I could add all the children to the notes field of both the unknown parents, headed up "possible children" so I can easily identify which unknown father/mother is associated with which children, then, if I ever find the parent/s, all I have to do is change the relevant fields. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Married Names
On 03/03/2015 19:42, Priscilla Glasow wrote: > Should females be included in Legacy under their maiden names only or > should you enter them under each married name? I only add them under their maiden name. How do you want to enter them? Maiden name or married name/s? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list
On 03/03/2015 18:22, Jay Wilpolt wrote: > How else could the logic work if it didnt have SOMETHING to connect the > two? Logic and programming are not /necessarily/ the same thing. I'd like to be able to add children without having to enter the surname of a mother or father, such as when foundlings who are also siblings end up with different surnames but the biological parents are unknown so the birth surname is unknown. If I do have known siblings but no parents names, rather than add a father as Michele suggested, I'd add a mother because there's a 50/50 chance the children could have been illegitimate. I'd also be more likely to add an honorific in the given name field and the surname in brackets as I do where I don't know the maiden name of a wife. Genealogy is anything but straightforward :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event
On 03/03/2015 18:21, Jay Wilpolt wrote: > GMail users should know that they will not see their messages appear in > their own inbox because GMail 'holds back' displaying of your own emails. The more experienced Gmail users do know this but not all know Gmail /can/ be forced to return a sender's messages. It may only be for those who use an email client in which case adding sender's address to the cc or bcc field will do the same. I always see my messages both in webview and my email client. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list
On 03/03/2015 16:18, Leon Chapman wrote: > I looked at my list and find the same problem. > Lots of Unknown married to Unknown. I've just produced a list of marriages and found the same thing but in my case I have several children who I /know/ are related but I don't know the names of their parents or even if the surname they used was their birth one. Legacy won't let you add a sibling if there isn't at least one parent. Maybe putting in one child automatically shows the unknown parents as that simply because the child must have had parents. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event
On 03/03/2015 15:48, M Ross wrote: > So legacyusergroup is the address not the subject line. Where is the > subject line so I can ask a proper question The subject line of *this* message is: Switching fields in an event That is not the subject line you need for YOUR question You need one that refers to YOUR question. Open Gmail and go into your account. Click on compose on the left That will open a box which has New Message at the top Under that is a box with To at the beginning which will disappear when you put in the address. You put legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com in that box Under that is another box which has Subject at the beginning which again will disappear when you put in the subject Next is a big box for your message You've nearly finished :) In the very bottom right hand corner you will see a little arrow. If you put your mouse over that, it says More Options. Click on the arrow. One of the options (choices) that appears in the menu is Plain text mode Click on that option. The box will disappear but don't worry about that. Gmail has done what you've chosen Last step: click on Send in the bottom left hand corner of the box you've composed your message. In a few minutes your message will appear on the list. I'm going to send you some pictures of the steps off list that may help you see what I've said above. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sources in Notes Fields
On 01/03/2015 15:56, Ward Walker wrote: > While not freaking out, I would discourage this method. I have inherited > data via Gedcom that expands source details in the Notes. I find the reports > and web pages that result appear very bloated and verbose, often with > redundant information. Who wants to read all that when trying to scan and > understand their shared family tree? Bury these details in the sources, for > lookup by those truly interested in digging further. Keep the reports clean > and concise. IMO. I rarely do reports. When I do, they tend to be descendent reports so no notes included. I don't do web pages other than using Wordpress which are written on the fly and may include an image such as a small chart or screenshot. I don't send or receive geds. When I work with other family members, we tend to use screenshots. There's no point in sending geds when we have the same information already. We share what we don't have. Anyone who picks up my data will have enough information to be able to recreate my research - which they should do anyway because I may have made mistakes. I have tried to use Master Sources but found it cumbersome and time consuming. It also didn't work terribly well. My way's quicker and easier - for me. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Difference Between Occupation and Employment Events?
On 01/03/2015 12:05, GeoPappas wrote: > But then I looked at the event definitions and now I'm not really sure how > they are supposed to be used. Surely the way you use them is the way /you/ want to use them, the way it suits you, irrespective of how someone else uses them or they were "supposed" to be used? That's one of the joys of Legacy. It's flexible enough to be used the /user/ chooses to use it rather than the way a third party (even if that's the designer of the program) believed it should be used. I've no doubt many on this list will totally freak out because I /don't/ use the Master Sources. I use the various Notes fields to record everything (inc some caustic comments about the less pleasant members of the family! ) and occasionally the events field if there's something I might need to see instantly when look at a particular person's entry. I don't use tagging or 99% of the fields/options that are causing so many people headaches. I rarely use reports of any sort but I do use charting regularly. For me, it's the easiest way to keep track of where I've got to with any family group. Why make things more complicated than they need be? That, to me, is the way to use any program: the way it suits the user, what works best for that person and not to go strictly by the book/rules just because it/they say that's what you have to do. OK, so I'm a maverick but that's me! :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] web pages
On 27/02/2015 02:13, Barton Lewis wrote: > Can someone please explain how web pages work. I wanted to publish an > account of how I solved my great-grandmother's NPE using DNA. I have > written it up in a Word document where I've inserted pictures and > screenshots of the DNA chromosome browser data. Can I just create a single > web page? I went to Internet, Create Web Pages and I can't tell if creating > a web page means putting my entire tree on the web. Also, the web page > location is showing on my C drive. How can the page be on the web and > accessed by others if it's on my C drive? I don't get it. You aren't alone there! I've never figured out how to upload a page I've created to a web site. I used to get someone else to do that for me which wasn't ideal. What I use now is Wordpress (https://wordpress.com/). It's fairly easy to use and you can either write the page "live" or create it off line then upload. And it's at the best price - free :) You can make it private if you wish. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with event notes
On 26/02/2015 18:49, Gene Wheeler wrote: > I'm using v8.0.0.467, Win7. This latest release has introduced a problem > in creating event notes. When I try to highlight a portion of a sentence > by making it bold and/or underlined, a couple of extra spaces are > introduced before that portion of the sentence as well as after it, but > before the comma or semicolon leading to the rest of the sentence. This > has not happened before. Those extra sentences are also underlined if u/l > is used. I believe others have had/are having this problem. If you have a look in the archives for the list you should be able to find what others are experiencing and how they solved it or whether it's a bug that's being dealt with. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Cut and Paste not working
On 26/02/2015 15:29, Nancy wrote: > I always download all the windows updates right away and don't have those > problems. When you update makes no difference as it is often a new update that can cause a problem where there wasn't one previously. It also depends on what other programs you have on your computer, what security programs you run and updates to those. It's possible for a Windows update and another update to clash in some way. When that happens a fix is needed to one or both so they play nicely again. I don't have the "cut and paste" problem either but have had it in the past. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving children and replacing people.
On 24/02/2015 00:07, Kurt Kneeland wrote: > Sent this yesterday but it bounced back with one of those greylist messages, > so trying again. SBCGlobal also uses Yahoo for its email service so it looks like the latter is playing silly so n so's again :( -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export
On 21/02/2015 23:42, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > Your greylisting has nothing to do with this forum or the servers > upon which it resides. Greylisting is an anti-spam technique > implemented by your email servers at rogers.com. Rogers uses Yahoo for email services, so it may be a bit more difficult. The problem could also be a server en route between the ISP's email provider and the list's servers. That happened a few years ago with a server in Ireland which was on the route of UK emails to Rootsweb. It caused havoc with legit mail, not that the spammers cared, of course. There is a way of checking for possible problems (http://whatismyipaddress.com/) but having a chat with an ISP (or email provider) can often sort things out. A listing will usually resolve itself after 7 days if there are no further instances. There are two IP addresses listed in the headers of Ward's mail This one is Ward's: General IP Information IP: 216.109.114.215 Decimal:3631051479 Hostname: nm10-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ISP:HotJobs.com Organization: Yahoo! Services: Likely mail server Type: Corporate Assignment: Static IP The other is Legacy's: IP: 69.175.37.210 Decimal:1169106386 Hostname: mail.legacyusers.com ISP:SingleHop Organization: SingleHop Services: Likely mail server Type: Corporate Assignment: Static IP -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Oh-oh!
On 19/02/2015 22:09, Jim Terry/Support wrote: > A family file can be corrupted if Legacy is open when an automatic > Windows update with reboot happens. I can confirm that happens :( I don't have Windows update without my say so, all it can do is tell me there are updates, but I have had my Legacy file corrupted when Windows crashed when the program was open. Very frustrating! -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth parents vs. adoptive parents
On 19/02/2015 03:21, Anne Scott wrote: > How does one "prove" a set of birth parents in the case of an > adopted child where a new birth certificate was issued? I've > thought of looking for birth registers and newspaper articles. Are > there other resources? You don't say where or when the adoption took place, so the following may not apply. If you are referring to England & Wales, then formal adoption didn't start before 1927 (IIRC) and the court papers relating to the adoption are closed to all except the birth parents, adoptive parents and the adopted child. There's no correlation between the regular birth indices and the adopted child indices. An adopted child may or may not keep any name given to him or her by his/her birth parent/s. Often a child wouldn't have even known s/he was adopted. Generally speaking the birth registers are not open to the public and information can only be supplied in the form of a birth certificate. If the child was adopted there should be a note on the certificate itself but you'd have to have some prior knowledge of the birth parents. There may be an announcement of a new child within the family which may or may not mention it is by adoption. There wouldn't be any mention of the birth parents, nor an announcement by them to say their baby had been adopted by Mr & Mrs . Prior to 1927, adoption would have usually been an informal arrangement often within the wider family and more akin to modern fostering. If a formal arrangement involving lawyers was made, you'd have to know who the lawyers were and their files may not be extant or have been deposited in the local archive or record office. An illegitimate child may have been registered by a relative other than the birth mother. There'd be no way of proving who the birth mother was, just a strong suspicion such as the claimed mother being highly unlikely or much too old to have given birth. If the adoption you are interested in took place in England/Wales, contact me /off list/ as I have an adoption certificate which I can show you. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 12/02/2015 23:23, Gerald E Boor wrote: > Carl, while most of us do goof, at least occasionally, I don't > think it is routine any longer to always give a warning for our > error. Most users don't want what they consider an unnecessary > warning. However, it might be ok if it can simply be turned off in > the preferences. I think that's probably the best answer. I've turned most of the reminders/prompts off except for a couple I feel I might benefit from. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 14:08, Howlanddavisii wrote: > My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents > do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name > would not be involved. Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one > would be looking for. You are looking for the birth of a child by the > parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter. I understand you. I believe what the system is highlighting is that it thinks you may have entered the year incorrectly (birth given as 1923 when the marriage was in 1913). That's why it highlights the child rather than the parents although I can see a case for highlighting the parents too as you might have entered their marriage date incorrectly (given as 1813 when it should have been 1913). Maybe a suggestion that parents and child both be highlighted where there's an apparent mismatch of dates? Best mismatch I had was a death /before/ the birth registration and the dates were correct. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 11:32, Cathy Pinner wrote: > The right click brings up the section on the Individual Form where you > can exclude the problem manually. (Not sure why you would since the > button will find the right criteria and do it for you.) Some people prefer to do things manually :) Can't say I wholly blame them :) I'm pretty sure I did as you said in your first para. I think it's good there is such an obvious highlight of a potential problem. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 09:32, Nan Bailey wrote: > There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident > I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell > you. I had someone flagged as a "possible problem". I think all I did was mark it as "exclude from problems". My mother was flagged as a "possible problem" because of the length of time she was born after my grandmother married. Unless there were some miscarriages/still births I don't know about, my problem mother was the only child. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade to Legacy v8?
On 11/02/2015 15:54, Sherry/Support wrote: > Unlike previous versions, v8 does not install over v7.5 - it creates a > new folder. The Help Center on our website has an article on upgrading So that's why I ran into a problem! Thankfully I installed the free version of Legacy8 onto a different machine because it's so different. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Copying index
On 11/02/2015 15:09, Sherry/Support wrote: > From the Name List, click on the Print button Thank you It was too easy! :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Copying index
Many years ago I took a copy of the index. Since then it has grown considerably and I've forgotten how I made the copy. Could someone remind me please? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 08/02/2015 02:44, Michele/Support wrote: > Charani, In reports gender is shown. In Legacy Charting you can > also show gender by simply coloring your boxes. There is a gender > option that will color males one color, females another and unknown > another. You can customize the colors. There isn't a way to put > M(ale), F(emale), U(unknown) in the box itself. If you would like > to make this suggestion to the programmers to have that option you > can do that here http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp With a tree 80+ feet in length, I use the colouring for generations because they aren't all nicely in line. Where a family has 8 or more children, it can leave large empty spaces making it difficult to follow so I condence it. It'd be well over 80ft if I didn't :) I'll suggest a different colour for children marked as unknown/unconfirmed or font (eg italic) for the category. It would probably be too complex a job for what would most likely be of minor use. When I get the time, I'll experiment with the suffix box. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 07/02/2015 23:44, Michele/Support wrote: > You have a choice of male, female or unknown. The unknown option > is right next to the male and female options. It has a ? next to > it. I use that option when there's a child with a unisex name. I also use it when I know there are additional children who've died and their identity is surmised but unconfirmed. Also when I know there are children but am unable to find any probable/possible candidates. It's fine in the family view, however, if I print out a tree, these children appear incorrectly as confirmed members of the family. Is there any way they can be shown as children can be shown as unidentified other than with a question mark before/after their name? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] One drive
On 02/02/2015 16:20, Nancy wrote: > So how I have it is best for safety's sake. I'd say you have. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] One drive
On 02/02/2015 15:46, Nancy wrote: > I set it up so the file is both in the computer documents file and > also the same on onedrive. Should I only have it on OneDrive? You could but it's not something I'd do for safety's sake. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] font size in notes
On 29/01/2015 23:19, Cathy Pinner wrote: > Zoom only affects the display size. > If you are copying and pasting notes can show in different sized fonts > until you actually save the note. I don't use copy and paste for notes but I have had them appear in different sizes. I've also had them "skip out" to a different size to the one set. > But Judy is talking about printing. Copy and paste can cause different size fonts and even fonts themselves to show which may appear in print. Quirks of computers :) I wish they'd let me do the thinking :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 29/01/2015 21:07, Kathy Meyer wrote: > Let's not do this folks. Let's end this thread since it has been asked and > answered:-) I don't think Charani intended to offend. I think she was > pointing out why Legacy isn't able to make the change at this time. The > expense (time, money etc.) would be significant. Any business must make > those decisions based on the amount of need there is for a particular > product, right?She didn't say she didn't 'want' it; she said she didn't > 'need' it - much different and not an offensive connotation IMO. I think > she was merely pointing out that one person wanting it and another not > would negate either choice. Since this is such a sensitive subject, we > should all choose to assume anything stated was intended in a non offensive > manner. I totally understand why you feel that way. If something were to > be overtly offensive, the moderators can take it up privately with the > offender. Thank you Kathy :) You read what I said exactly the way it was intended. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 29/01/2015 20:35, Ronald Bernier wrote: > Please keep your bigoted comments to yourself. No one has ever been/will > ever be forced to use any option they are not interested in. I too would > like to be able to properly record my partner of 38 years as my spouse. Please take your comments /off list/. Thank you. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] font size in notes
On 28/01/2015 15:07, Judy Weber wrote: > I have a section of a note which prints in a smaller size font than the rest > of the note. I was surprised to see it print that way in a book report. How > do I get this section to print in the same size font as everything else? One way would be to highlight the whole note, click on zoom, then on the font size you want. That /should/ work. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 29/01/2015 02:20, Ken Neundorf wrote: > I use that work around but when I make reports it will not connect the > spouses in both families. This is the only complaint I have about this > program. I would like to see you make the extensive changes. I think whether it would be cost effective for Legacy to make the expensive major change would depend on how many users needed/wanted the option and whether it could be tailored to suit both sides. You want the change. I don't need it. Therefore, we cancel one another out. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 28/01/2015 23:27, Brian/Support wrote: > At this time legacy does not support same-sex couples. Thank you :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown
On 28/01/2015 17:40, Brian/Support wrote: > You do not need to unlink a couple before changing gender, there is a > swap husband and wife button on the Edit Ribbon that will reverse the > genders for a couple. What about same sex couples? Some people may wish to show them either both as male or both as female. I've not come across any in my family so it isn't an issue that particularly concerns me but it will concerns others. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message
On 26/01/2015 17:53, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > I think there might be a problem with trying to use the RootsWeb > list servers offered through Ancestry and that is our messages are > mostly not related to genealogical research but rather to a > specific program utilization, namely Legacy. And that means our > messages are of no interest to the general public looking for some > family information. I doubt if Ancestry would allow Millennia to > set up shop at their expense. There is a Legacy list on Rootsweb already, not much used though, just 4 messages so far this year. I gather, but haven't checked, that other genealogy programs also have lists on Rootsweb. However, as I've pointed out, Rootsweb aren't without problems too, mainly down to spammers and cussed ISPs/email providers :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message
On 26/01/2015 12:55, Ronald Bernier wrote: > The problem has nothing to do with Legacy software. The issue is > with the software being used for the mailing list. Millennia > (Legacy) employs the services of a third party for their email > server. The problem and refusal to fix the problem lies solely > with the third party. It is senseless to blame the user for an > issue with the mail server - makes absolutely zero sense. I'm > sure if Millennia put pressure on the third party to fix the > problem or lose their business, the issue would be resolved. > Unfortunately it appears that Millennia is not really interested in > insisting that the issue be corrected. I wasn't saying it was the program software. It's not "senseless to blame the user" (which I'm also not doing) because this problem is only affecting /some/ users, not all. It /may/ make a difference if Millenia made threats but chances are it won't or the provider could tell Millenia to take their business elsewhere. > That being said, I would prefer to see the Legacy list move > entirely to the Rootsweb servers. That would eliminate folks > sending attachments to the list. It would also force folks to send > email in plain text only. Most importantly, it would ensure that > folks could subscribe to the list and/or change their receiving > email address without having to jump through hoops. That would not necessarily solve the problem because Rootsweb list members also have the same problem from time to time. It would stop researchers sending attachment because Rootsweb strip them out but it doesn't "force folks to send email in plain text only". HTML/RTF can be stripped out too, but has resulted in blank messages arriving on lists in the past. There are also problems when a spammer (and non Rootsweb member) sends through a particular server that is also used by a subscriber's ISP/email provider. That results in no mail being received from or sent to Rootsweb. However, recent problems caused by two or three ISPs has resulted in a list setting being overridden which allows mails to be sent to individuals in HTML/RTF, together with any malware there may be on the sender's machine if that's the format being used by the send, as well as to the list with the coding removed. Depending on how a list is set up will depend on how quickly a subscriber joins the list. Some are set to confirm, others to approve. However since this is not a Legacy software issue, if you wish to continue, please contact me off list. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message
On 26/01/2015 02:22, Jerry wrote: > I have first-hand knowledge of this problem about the list that has > absolutely nothing to do with spam settings or anything else. *It is > definitely a bug, but apparently it doesn't happen every time*. Used to > be that you could carefully go back and CUT and PASTE the URL link from > that welcoming email to your browser and fix the problem, but last time > I also had to contact support because the CUT and PASTE would not work. > Just seeing a lot about bugs not fixed yet and wonder if I just spent > money foolishly by upgrading to Legacy 8 recently? Hopefully not, Legacy > always seemed to be a great product - hope they can more diligently work > on the bugs - hire another staff member, if needed. One of the things I said was that intermittent faults are hard to resolve and you are saying exactly that's what it is and it doesn't affect everyone. You are having problems. I'm not. That suggests it is not a bug per se but a combination of factors between the product and the user that's causing the problem. Whilst others are having similar problems, they may not be exactly the same. /That/ will make it nigh on impossible to resolve and hiring additional staff is unlikely to make a difference. If all users were having the same problem, it would probably be a bug and easier to resolve. Legacy IS a great product. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message
On 26/01/2015 01:50, Jerry wrote: > It is unfortunate that a reputable company like Legacy can't fix this > problem or get a different third-party for their email groups - it has > been happening this way for*YEARS*. That other problem on the website I > reported multiple times involving clicking on*HELP CENTER* has never > been fixed after many months either. If the company can't fix these > "routine" problems, makes one wonder about the more major issues? Sorry > for my venting my frustration. I don't think that's wholly fair. ISPs and email providers cause more than a few problems with their own filters treating list mail as spam, and it's not just this list. Sometimes this happens /before/ mail gets to the intended recipient, sometimes after. Add to that those using an email client (Thunderbird, Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, etc) who check that spam folder but overlook checking the one in webview. That aside, programming is not a simple matter. When an error occurs, yes, it can be fixed /but/ in remedying one error the fix mustn't cause another. Intermittent errors cause major headaches as do those that affect one person but don't affect dozens of others. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy how-to link for using voice recognition
On 23/01/2015 14:02, Michele/Support wrote: > Arnold, Are you taking about being able to use Dragon with Legacy? > We had a webinar on this > http://www.familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=223 I use Dragon 12 for my transcription work. It seems to manage place names more easily than personal names esp Ann/Anne/Anna. They all come up as 'and'. G! It's down to accents and mine's something of a hybrid :) I proof as I go, so I usually catch errors immediately. Straight text work is a doddle -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Need for listing AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests on Legacy DNA record screen
On 25/01/2015 12:21, Michele/Support wrote: > 1) We have several DNA suggestions in the suggestions queue under > consideration including some that involve atDNA (autosomal) > 2) One that isn't there is having an option to remove the DNA > screens. Someone will need to send in a suggestion for that one > (http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/suggest.asp) Thank you. I'll do that. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Need for listing AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests on Legacy DNA record screen
On 25/01/2015 17:14, David Abernathy wrote: > Or to prevent finding a brick wall. > > I had been trying to find links to a very large tree for several > years. > > Once I had the “Y†DNA done, I found that there was NO way that I > could be linked to this large tree, and have quit spending time > trying to. If I can't find a link and none shows up in Legacy either, I simply put the conundrum on the back burner until I can either get to the relevant record office or archive or it comes online with images. I won't waste large sums on something I am not convinced would be correct. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Need for listing AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests on Legacy DNA record screen
On 25/01/2015 16:13, Stratton wrote: > DNA is interesting. In the right context and that, to me, does not include family history. 8>< Reason snipped for brevity >I do understand what these tests can do and what they cannot do. Also, > if people do not take the tests because of their concern for privacy or > other reasons, I do not have any chance at all. I have recently (last year) discovered my 6xgt grandfather after a 40 year search. He baptised my 5xgt grandfather in the middle of a neighbouring county, said he was from a town with no record of any other family member, so I suspect he was employed there, and his 'wife' was given her maiden name. The town she was given as being from was correct because I found her and her siblings and parents. No amount of DNA testing is going to find the next generation back or any siblings there may be. My grandmother was the one who interested me in genealogy. She was looking for her sister who no one else knew anything about. I have the sister's divorce (her petition). I have her remarriage and there it stops. Again no amount of DNA testing will find anything more. She married a SMITH. Although I have her probable death, the informant on the death certificate is her 'son'. He's more likely to be her step son, IF it's the right entry, since she was unlikely to have had any children of her own. She certainly didn't with her first husband. As, when and IF it ever becomes possible for a DNA test to give names, dates and places /with certainty/ (which it won't) instead of probable, possible, maybe a connection, I /might/ be interested. However the imbalance of extant males makes it all highly unlikely. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Need for listing AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests on Legacy DNA record screen
On 25/01/2015 06:19, Pauline B. Cramer wrote: > It is important to be able to keep records of > the fact that an individual was tested, and the details of the testing. It's also needs to be an option that can be customised (ie removed from toolbars etc, if required). Not everyone will use DNA testing or even want to. Personally I cannot understand the fascination with using DNA in family history. Most of my family regard it as an invasion of privacy and would refuse to have a test, even if asked. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Test - pls ignore
On 25/01/2015 10:47, Goodwin Gemealogy wrote: > Re-subscribed a month ago. Nothing coming through, just posting to see if > lack of messages is just because list is quiet or whether I need to contact > support to get manually subscribed. (Yes, I've checked spam folder etc.) There has been a raft of messages in the last few days but you are subscribed. Another list member is also having problems. If you have a look in the list archives you will be able to see what steps were suggested to them. http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Have you checked the spam folder in Outlook /and/ in Gmail? The latter will send unfamiliar mail to the spam folder. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving list mail (was: Test)
On 24/01/2015 06:42, June wrote: > Apologies to everyone but I am still trying to resolve my problem. Have you checked your junk mail folders in webview and in your email client, if you use one? Ditto trash? If you use filters to direct your mail to specific folders, is one of them similar to the list name? Another thing to try is contacting your ISP/email provider in case /their/ filters are treating Legacy list mail as spam and telling them you /want/ the list mail. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File Name
On 23/01/2015 01:31, Nancy Paget wrote: > I tried to change the my file name to Nancys Legacy Family Tree. Something > simple and easy to read. This is was shows at the top of my program: > > [C:\Users\Nancy\AppData\Local\*Temp*\Temp1_tmgged080122014-12-13-6.03.58_PM[1].zip\Nancys > Legacy Family Tree.fdb] > > How do I do to make it look like it should? > Why do I have it buried behind all that stuff? The key to that long apparent name is the bit I've highlighted. That is a temporary file or file name. Whenever you change a name or install/update a program a temporary version is created. Some temp files are automatically deleted once updated, but not all are. If you open Legacy and click on File, then Open file, you /should/ be able to find the correctly named file. I'm still using v7.5 so it may be slightly different in v8. I don't use Dropbox. Thomas MacEntee did a very good webinar on using the Cloud for storage, highlighting both the up and down sides. I doubt it's still available. It was over a year ago. As a result of that, I decided it wasn't for me. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Documenting Disproven Relationships: Wrong Parents/ Children
On 20/01/2015 01:26, Joe Gammon wrote: > I am curious to hear what best practices any of you might use in Legacy to > document children or parents that have been added to a family in error. > Simply deleting them is not a good idea, since documentation of the mistake > is needed to resolve the conflicts with other researchers. Are there any > good practices out there, similar to adding a "Disproven Alt Name" or > "Disproven Birth" Event? I disconnect the erroneous link but keep the data in the file with a note giving details against all parties. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
Tessa Keough wrote: > And at this point you can leave the sex as a question mark - then > as you learn more (are there school records, marriage records, > military records, etc.) you could back into the sex of the > individual. I think it'll have to be so, but it bugs me because it is a ?. > Came late to the discussion so I don't know your time frame, but > depending on the place and the records, you might be able to work > your way through this. Were there later censuses. Apologies if this > has already been addressed by others. Unfortunately the children were all born in the late 1980s so there's nothing I can use to verify the names. All the sources I know about are closed - unless someone knows to the contrary of course :)) Two of the children are Canadian born. The other two American born. This is why I took a shot at asking here since there are many North Americans here. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
Tim Rosenlof wrote: > Definitive ? > How can you trust any names offered without _Research_. What a shame it > would be to my ancestors/Descendants to go off what is ?, what ?, who > knows ? Like Geoff always say's, Genealogy without sources is nothing > but hearsay and or mythology. Research doesn't always work when names can be either male or female or when parents decide to make one t'other. Research won't give you a definite answer. Sometimes, an ambiguous name can be clarified by a marriage to someone with a clearly male or female name but not always. I don't have the marriages to help with these four children. John has cited a source and a reason for Heber. Most of the Shays I've come across have been male but I doubt Shay MITCHELL would be impressed with being call a boy/man. Vivien is the feminine of Vivian but what about the Vivians who are female? Research doesn't help there, nor with Beverley, Lynn or even my own name. I have an Alma in my family. Female? Maybe but since the holder of the name was given it subsequent to the Battle of The Alma, the person is most likely male. The person in question didn't marry and is not known to have fathered or borne children. Thus using the ? for unknown gender is necessary until such time as I know for sure one way or t'other. A source should be cited for most research but it isn't always possible. Research doesn't always find a definitive answer and a source is not always available. Some names started off being male but became female and vice versa. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
bgsu1...@gmail.com wrote: > The topic would apply to genealogy in general, not specifically to > Legacy. Mayhap but this is the first time anyone's given me a definitive answer on any of the names. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
Tim Rosenlof wrote: > There are a wealth of message boards and mailing lists for helping with > research. And plenty of perplexed people like me on them :)) > Lets get back to Legacy. Tis Legacy: how to file these youngsters. Under M, F or ? At the moment three are still under ? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
Terri Brown wrote: > Devin tends to be a male name. I know several males named Devin but no > females. My initial thought was Devin was a boy but it was the spelling which made me question it. I've only seen it spelled Devon. > Jordan, unfortunately, can be either. There are two around where I live: one male, t'other a tomboy. > No clue on the others. Glad I'm not alone :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
mbstx wrote: > Re Jordan Marinus - if Marinus is not a family surname, the "us" > ending on Marinus might indicate this person is male, as in Latin > gender is distinguished by nouns (including names) that end in "us" > (male), or "a" (female), e.g. Julius (male) vs Julia (female), or > alumnus (male) vs alumna (female). Marianne Thank you :)) There's nothing to suggest Marinus is a family surname. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names
I have several children who have been given names that are not obviously male or female or could be either. Asking the parents isn't possible. They are all North American and born in the late 1980s. No surnames given. Devin Spencer (b Michigan) Heber Brynn (b British Columbia) Jessen Shay (b Alberta) Jordan Marinus (b Michigan) I would appreciate possible enlightenment please :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Proof of relationship
Alan Pereira wrote: > I am starting a research task in the todo list in providing proof(s) of > relationship, which can be through a multitude of sources, the most > difficult being the negative proof. > My initial throughts were to create a document as a backup source detailing > these proofs. Then again, why not just use the research notes. > Just wondering what others do... I use the Notes: General for miscellaneous items, thoughts and ideas, Research for sources and details of options where there are two or more possible matches and Medical for cause of death, health issues where known and such like. Negative proof gets noted as "No evidence found to date (date)", "No proof", "Unproven", "Doubtful connection" etc, depending partly on what the situation regarding that person and partly how I feel at the time. Where you have the option for the gender of the entry, I also use the "?" to denote I'm not convinced/ have serious doubts the person in question actually belongs to the parents as well as for names that are unisex and I haven't a clue whether the child is male or female. Anything really important that I need to be aware of when editing a person also goes in the Events/Facts. (Smelling salts at the ready for anyone getting an attack of the vapours at the way I use Legacy ) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Fwd: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Yvonne Morehouse wrote: > I use Dropbox with my Legacy folder in it. But (and this is the > important part to me) I also spend $5 a month to have my files backed up > every night to Backblaze. So, I don't worry as to what will happen if > Dropbox drops me or goes out of business. > > Am I wrong? From what others have said, you seem to be taking something of a risk if Dropbox is holding your original Legacy files, even if they are backed up to Backblaze. What happens if something happens to you or your computer, Dropbox drops you because you haven't been able to log in within their 90/120 day limit and Backblaze goes bust or is taken down by hackers before you can rescue your files? There's no reason why you shouldn't keep doing it the way you are BUT keep another copy on an external hard drive you can lodge with a trusted friend or a relative. MJ SA's use of a flash drive is good because you can keep it in your purse so it's with you all the time - just in case. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Gene Young wrote: > Not necessary. Open Office and Libre Office both open native .xls files > and when you save it prompts you to save as .ODS format. Thanks. Ron realised what the "problem" was and sorted it out :)) I have a lot of work ahead of me though :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Ron Ferguson wrote: > Charani, > > I too use OpenOffice, and there is no problem. GEDxlate offers 4 or export > options one of which is "Comma Deliminated", us that and open in OOo > Spreadsheet with "comma" selected as the separator - no problem. Actually I > have this selected for auto9matic opening for all CSV files, so I only need > to double click to open. A thousand thank yous!! :)) That's done it :)) It's all in RIN order as well :)) Everyone's cross referenced just for good measure. I've more data missing than I thought, too! Aargh! It's mainly spouses though. Magic! :)) Right, now to despatch son to watch action film with husband, dau to watch film, natter on Facebook/txt in bedroom and various hamsters to the hall and I can start filling in the missing data :)) Yah!! :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Gene Young wrote: > There is a free program called GEDXlate (GOOGLE for download) which will > take a gedcom as input and output a spreadsheet with the info you want. > Including installation, creating the gedcom and outputting the file it > shouldn't take more that about a half hour. It uses MS Excel and I don't :(( Apart from that, it looks good and is simple to use. I'll see if one of my techie contacts is around who can do the conversion from Excel to ODS. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Gene Young wrote: > There is a free program called GEDXlate (GOOGLE for download) which will > take a gedcom as input and output a spreadsheet with the info you want. > Including installation, creating the gedcom and outputting the file it > shouldn't take more that about a half hour. The only caveat is that it > won't include the RIN. I work around that by going to OPTIONS > > CUSTOMIZE > OTHER TAB and have Legacy copy the RIN's to the CUSTOM ID > NUMBERS field and this will transfer. It doesn't have a space for > Census but since the program doesn't know what country you are > researching that is not a surprise. It is easy enough to add those > coulmns as you go. Excellent!! Thank you :)) I have some peace and quiet at the moment, so I'll start the process now. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Jenny M Benson wrote: > If you select Print... on the the Name List you can choose the columns > you want and export the result as a CSV file, which could be imported > into your spreadsheet. It's not co-operating at the moment, but I've 2 teens and a husband in his second childhood playing silly so n so's. I'll give that a try again when they're all stuffed into bed tonight. Thanks :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Jenny M Benson wrote: > I think I set it up from scratch, but it was years ago, soon after I > first started research so there wasn't too much initial typing. I might > think twice about doing it if I had to start from scratch now, with over > 3000 names to work on! I had a horrible feeling you were going to say that! LOL The index has additional columns that I've added for marriages and spouses. I'm wondering if I can copy and paste that into a spreadsheet. Otherwise I may be able to short circuit the input a little because I use Dragon for some of my transcriptions. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers: incorporating use of a spreadsheet
Jenny M Benson wrote:
> My UserIDs have 2 elements, one of which is the RIN and I use RINs all
> the time for keeping track of people. All my image filenames
> incorporate the name and RIN of the individual involved ("Bap - Doe,
> John 123" or "MC - Bloggs, Joe 456 = Adams Fanny 135" for example - yes,
> I know it's better not to have spaces in filenames!).
It may be better but it isn't natural - esp if you've been
secretarially trained :))
> I keep a spreadsheet to keep track of whether or not I have found Birth,
> Baptism, Marriage, Death, Burial and Census records (where appropriate)
> for everyone in my database and use the RIN to jump to each person in
> turn in my file.
Now that's an excellent idea. The line number can easily equal the RIN.
Did you manually enter all the data into the spreadsheet or is there a
way to do an auto input/copy & paste?
I'm losing track of what info I'm missing on various people. I could
do with a quick, neat way of checking.
--
Charani (UK)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
MJ SA wrote: > Wow, this is so over my head, I never even heard of syncback. I have > around 300 people on my family tree, I think I should be good with a > thumb drive. I've not heard of synback before either. A thumb drive will be good for now but you need to have other back ups as well. Don't forget to keep a copy of the whole Legacy file inc the program itself with the file back up, esp if you're using the deluxe version of Legacy rather than the free version, plus your registration details. The smallest of my thumb drives is 8gig, which is twice the size of the hard drive in my first desktop computer :)) Have a look through the list's archives. The link's in the footer at the bottom of every list mail. You could find a lot of useful tips and information there. If we don't see you for a while, I'll organise the St Bernards to come find you ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RIN numbers
MJ SA wrote: > I know this question is really going to be on the top of everyone's > dumb list, The only dumb question is the one you do NOT ask :)) > but the RIN numbers, if I put them in numerical order, will > that tell me how many people I have on my family tree? It can do so long as you haven't deleted an entry for any reason. You can reuse RINs if you ask Legacy to do so. The stats under the Home tab give 3391 individuals, 1081 families and 5 sources(!) but you can also check by going to the Index tab and clicking on white RIN button (NOT the grey one immediately above the column). That puts the index in numerical order by RIN. The number there is 3426 which means I have some unused RINs. > Aside from not knowing Legacy at all, I am really good at researching :) Then your tree is liable to grow and grow until you have a veritable forest :)) Welcome to the addiction for which there is (thank goodness) no cure :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Ian GARDENER wrote: > This forum is probably not the place for it so if you want to email > me, I’ll email you response. > > It’s not hard to set up though, in my opinion the trick is NOT to > schedule backups but to use it’s own internal option to cycle the > backups and/or syncs every x minutes. Also understand what you > want, backup, sync, or both. Can you cc me that as well, please? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Fwd: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Laura Johnson wrote: > I would be very wary of putting anything on a Wordpress site. Wordpress > is a prime target for hackers as it is easily hacked into. I just had > one of my sites hijacked back in February and I am still cleaning up > messes from that. Any site is capable of being hacked, so it's always good to be vigilant and have a good strong password if a site offers accounts of any description. A litle while ago some malicious code was inserted into a genealogical site somehow. The owner took it down and it hasn't been put up again as far as I know. I don't put anything on Wordpress that's sensitive, not even family history stuff. Anything I put on line stops at 1900. As an example: http://fourrabbitsblog.wordpress.com/ It needs some updating though. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
hwedhlor wrote: > Sorry I wasn't that clear the first time, Charani. Maybe > it's the heat here, which is around 116ºF/46.1ºC in the > afternoon, and drops to a mere 90ºF/32.2ºC during the night. > :-) Good job the humidity seldom climbs above 20%. :-) SOK. Cloud computing is new to me so I guess there was also an element of my not understanding as well :)) We're in one of our brief periods of proper summer weather again: not nearly as hot as Arizona but we have high humidity. The two together can be exhausting. It's 09.45 here, temp's 21.7ºC, about 73ºF, but the humidity is already 37% and will climb during the day. There is a breeze today which is keeping it quite pleasant - at the moment! Son and small furries will suffer later though when the temp and humidity climb. > Dropbox is a good secondary storage area, and can provide a > convenient means of transferring files, but I would never > use it as the primary storage location for anything, even if > I chose to pay for a higher level of service to eliminate > the threat of files expiring and being erased by Dropbox staff. I think I'd be more inclined to deposit files in a private area of one of my domains - so long as I could remember the URL, of course! :)) I also have a couple of Wordpress sites. Anything I want to share with one of my cousins is usually sent directly to them; and I have a home network so I can copy files across machines. It may not be as quick or easy, but it works :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] everyone comes up on the index two times
MJ SA wrote: > Charani, why do you say "why is "you did download a tree from Ancestry (very > dodgy move IMO)." Why is it dodgy to download my own tree? You didn't make it clear it was your own tree initially. Many of the Ancestry trees contain errors. I found one where my 3x great uncle was attached to the wrong parents, the wrong wife and the wrong birth place. When I asked about this, the person who'd put the tree up didn't both correcting it, checking out what I had but simply made the tree private. The same 3x great uncle was on another tree with three different wives, three different birth places in three different counties and three different occupations - none of it correct. Again, the person who put the tree up not only wouldn't accept their own research was wonky, but that it was nothing to do with my 3x great uncle. Am I right about my 3xgreat uncle? Three cousins independent of each other and me all went back to the same place, one of them a direct descendent of my 3x great uncle :)) > Anyway, Ancestry is only letting me download as a gedcom. How do I > download with an .fdb? You can't download an .fdb because ANcestry isn't the same as Legacy. Download the gedcom (ged) then import it into Legacy and save it. You'll then have your .fdb. Click on File, go down to Import and it gives you the option to import a ged. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] everyone comes up on the index two times
MJ SA wrote: > Actually, it is my tree that I downloaded from Ancestry, I do not sync > legacy and Ancestry because I don't want to put everyone on Ancestry. > Than I found relatives on ancestry, I attached more people to my tree, > so that was the only way I could think of to get a new family file on > legacy. Does that make sense? I am on my first cup of coffee, lol. Yes, it makes sense. I think doing a manual search and merge of duplicates is probably the best may of sorting out the problem. Have another cup of coffee before you start though ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Ian GARDENER wrote: > I don't use dropbox orany cloud function for backup purposes, it's > there so I can sychnronise the three different machines I use. I > back up Legacy to an external HD each time I exit the program but I > have many other files that are not part of legacy, ebooks, > references, all sorts of things. They all get backed up to HD too > but a while back I upgraded my laptop and when I went to restore > files from the hd, it was dead. Luckily I also do an occasional > backup to CD. > > BUT my question is not in regard to backups, it relates to synching > pc's automatically whenever they are turned on. Synching both my machines could be useful (providing they don't both sink, of course). My concern though had been that if for any reason I couldn't access an account and the plug was pulled, everything would be deleted and I'd be sunk. John's clarified that one. I still don't think Dropbox or any similar cloud computing would be an answer for me. > BTW thanks for your kind thoughts. 8>< for brevity only YW :)) > I'm quite at peace > with where and what I am. In fact any reasonable person would be > imo, IF they had spent so long in hospital & saw so many poor kids > going through it. Now that's cruel for both the kids and their > family & friends. After what you've been through, I can understand your outlook. My husband's been through the mill a bit too. So's my son who has been prodded and poked all his life to such an extent because of his disabilities, he gets unco-operative now when the hospital or doctor wants to do tests or checks. As you say, it's seeing the children suffering. It makes you wonder how life can be so cruel to innocent little 'uns and cause so much grief to their families and friends. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Single adopted parent
Ian GARDENER wrote: > Yes I would love a coffee, happy to help. Mocha, Double Mocha, Cappuccino, Latte, Irish (hmm, probably a bit early for that), perc'd, instant? Decaf? Black, white? With sugar or without? :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source Title
Judith wrote: > Hello: I'm trying to add a master source for a 'travel' event'. It's not > immigration or emigration, or anything to do with passport records, the > person is just traveling, in this case back to his homeland years after his > immigration, for a visit. Any suggestions? Can 'Travel' be a master source, > or is there another/better source title? Although Travel is, as you say, an event, I don't see why you couldn't use it as a source title to encompass all/any sources/events that might fall under that heading. Legacy is flexible enough that you can use it however you see fit even if it wasn't how it was envisaged it would be used :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
hwedhlor wrote: > Perhaps I should have been more clear on my philosophy for > using Dropbox. I consider any Dropbox folder to be part of > the Dropbox server system, even if that folder resides on my > local drive. The Dropbox sub-folder under My Documents on > you hard drive will certainly be emptied if Dropbox deletes > your files due to account activity. Given that fact it > would be foolish for anyone to make Dropbox the sole > repository of their genealogical database. They should > always keep a copy in another "local" drive. Ah, now *that* makes much more sense. Thank you for the clarification. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] everyone comes up on the index two times
MJ SA wrote: > Amazingly, my family tree grew, until I looked at the index and saw > that every person is on their 2 times. What can I do to fix this huge > problem? > I uploaded the tree from ancestry, why is everyone's name on it two times. It's probably because you did download a tree from Ancestry (very dodgy move IMO). Ask Legacy to do a merge *but* be aware many of the trees on Ancestry are full of errors as a result of guesswork, hijacking other people's trees, etc. It would have been better to have downloaded the tree to a new family file first so you could confirm the accuracy of the tree you got from Ancestry before merging it with your own tree. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Webinars
MJ SA wrote: > Are there free webinars or training videos. I can't afford to pay for > the cd-rom's and I always forget about the webinars, All the webinars are free. If you can't register and watch them at the time, they are available for about a week to ten days after. Try using MiniReminder. It's a handy, free, program that's useful for all sorts of things, not just webinars and birthdays. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
hwedhlor wrote: > The inactivity to which I referred was to the overall > account, and the files deleted would not be deleted from the > subscriber's computer, but from the provider's server. These > services do not have access to our computers. How do they sync then if they don't have access? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy > Dropbox > Syncback
Paul Gray wrote: > The one thing I'm a bit confused about is whether "inactivity" refers to the > individual file, or to the account in general. I have activity on my Dropbox > account virtually daily, but certain files (e.g. multimedia) have been dormant > for more than ninety days and nothing has ever been deleted. As I understand it, it's inactivity on the *account* rather than individual files. If you're using the account on a daily basis or thereabouts, you won't have to worry. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands
Tony Rolfe wrote: > I recently ran a potential problems report and found the following > situation: > > A woman had married and had children. > > The 1871 census shows her as a widow with several children, including a > 3-month-old daughter. Her husband had died in 1868. > > The 1881 census shows her being remarried with two more children born > after 1871 but before her new marriage and with her previous married > surname. > > So, these may have been adopted, they may be fathered by her new husband > before the marriage, or she may have had another, as yet undocumented, > relationship (or two). > > The three children born between the death of husband 1 and the marriage > to husband 2 were linked to husband 1 and showed up as potential > problems. I've unlinked the three children from their parents and > linked them to the mother, but now they each have an unknown father. > This poor woman shows up as having 5 husbands, three unknowns and two > with names. Is there any way to consolidate the 3 unknown spouses into > one, without actually creating someone called "Unknown"? It may be there was only one other man involved rather than three but I would keep them all separate until you know for sure. The baptismal register may have the "alleged father" named. Aternatively the poor law account books may have reference to the "alleged father" being pursued for maintenance. IME, this only happened where the mother was likely to be a charge on the parish (maintenance was only paid for the child though, not the mother). If she was able to support herself or her family were willing and able to do so (which seems to have happened much of the time), there won't be anything. One of my 2x great grandmothers never married but had 5 children. From the spacing, it seems there may have been up to three different men involved. She's shown with three unknown "husbands". I've never been able to find anything at all about who fathered her children. This is again where I would like to see an alternative to "Male" and "Husband". -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames
Ron Ferguson wrote: > Charani > > I cannot agree with your suggestion of adding an 'historic' or 'more common' > name to that recorded in either vital events or censuses. To me this seems > to ignore a basic principle of recording data i.e. it should be recorded as > written in the document. I do not see the point of adding the dob to the > name either 1) for the above reason and 2) it is unnecessary. It's not ignoring the basic rules. It's a means of linking together family members. My BERRY/BURY family were first found in Kent as BERRY but on tracking them back they became BURY when they lived in Warwickshire. Some of the children start off with one spelling and end up with the other. Some keep one spelling. Others keep t'other. If I didn't link them by adding the other spelling, I could have two completely different families linked to different family lines. The BURYs of Warkwickshire might not be the BERRYs of Kent. Adding the DoB was for the images as a quick identification method. Again one which I find useful when I have four brothers named Charles, John, James and Henry and each of them uses those same four names for their own sons who in turn use them for their sons. The aide memoire tells me straight away which son's record I need. > In my One-Name I can have a large number of duplicate given names with the > Ferguson surname. When checking to see if I already have an entry for a new > individual (eg. from a census) I use Search>Detailed Search for Individual; > Given Name; Contains; Name (I only use the first name, 2nd perhaps if 1st > produces no result) AND Individual; Birth Place; Contains; County. That's the same with mine: the four above plus William for the boys, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann for the girls plus 22 variant or alternative spellings for the surname. The database is compiled from CMBs and BMDs only. Other sources, such as censuses, wills, deeds, are added in the, um, Other Sources column in the spreadsheet. In Legacy, I have parents and spouses in the index which means I can quickly find the person I want, right click on the name and add the new source to the Notes. > This gives a Name list in dob order, and is quick to use, because when > searching only the last field changes. Adding a DoB isn't necessary in the name list but for images, I find it very useful. It saves me having to open several images in order to find the one I want. I'm sure a lot of people will be horrified at the way I use Legacy but it works for me. Any similarity between some field names and my use of them is often purely coincidental :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames
Lavern Hall wrote: > I am working on one branch of the family whose surname is > repeatedly misspelled (e.g. original spelling is Giorgio which > has turned into Giorgi, Georgi, Gorge, George.) In each case, > I've transcribed the record exactly as the name appeared, and > I've put the alternate spellings in the AKA's (with their source). > 1) I'm not sure this is the best way to handle this part with AKA's, > or if I should make a comment under General Notes. The various spellings aren't really AKAs. For instance, Maria GEORGE wasn't also known as (aka) Maria GIORGIO because the name had evolved, right? They aren't really misspellings either. They're closer to variations or alternatives. My BERRY family first appeared as BURY when they moved to a different part of the country, both spellings were apparently randomly used within the family. I use the spelling as it appears in the record but put the alternative spelling in brackets if that has also been used for the same person, eg Thomas Charles BERRY (BURY) or Rose Hannah (Rosanna) BERRY (BURY). > > 2) When I save the image for the record to my Legacy picture folder, > I've saved it using the alternate spelling (e.g. George, Sam if that is > how the name appears in the census, instead of Giorgio, Salvatore > which is his given name.) So. When I look at the directory of names > to see what images I have for any individual, I am having a problem > keeping people straight, especially since several family members > have the same first names. How about adding the year of birth in brackets (eg GEORGE, Sam (Salvatore b 1926)? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Single adopted parent
Ian GARDENER wrote: > What about just making the non existent spouse invisible to keep > them off reports and just naming them "NOT Applicable"? > > Just a thought. Good thinking Batman! :)) That would cover all eventualities. Wanna cup of coffee? I've just got up and my eyes aren't properly awake yet. They need a kick start ;)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Single adopted parent
Ron Taylor wrote: > The cases you are talking about all have 2 parents, even if > sometimes we don't wish to record one of them. The case I > described only has 1 parent. The best solution I have found so far > is to enter "Adopted by Single Parent" in the spouse record to make > it clear that there will not be a second parent/spouse found for > the marriage record. I might also mark that fictional person as > "private" and "invisible" but other than those procedures, there is > no method in the Legacy database tables to record these single > parent adoptions. Every child must have two parents, except in very rare cases where the mother is asexual. Even an IVF child has two parents although the donor father may be unknown. In the instance I mentioned, no, there were not two known parents. There was only the adoptive one, just as you have. You've done what I've done except I put "None" in the given name field and "CHILD ADOPTED" in the surname field. The adopted child's birth parents were and remain unknown. I didn't consider marking the entry as "private". It's not something I use. In the case of illegitimate children, the father isn't always known or named, so it would be better to be able to leave that field totally blank and not to have it assigned to a non existent or otherwise unknown "husband". There are instances where a girl is raped by a stranger whose name would not be known. Legacy is very flexible for the most part but less so where non standard relationships are involved. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Single adopted parent
Ron Taylor wrote: > Does anyone know of a correct method to store a child that was > adopted by a single parent? Obviously, both biological parents > should be connected to the child by way of their marriage record if > possible but the woman who adopted the child is not the biological > mother and she has never been married. I don't want an "Unknown" > spouse for her but still need to connect the adopted child to her > which is done via a marriage record. I can enter marriage notes to > explain the situation but I want some way to avoid ever showing a > spouse or at least indicate that there was no spouse and never will > be a spouse for this marriage record. I put None for the given name and CHILD ADOPTED in the surname field, in a similar situation. In the place of marriage field I specified Single adoptive parent. I would also prefer not to have an unknown spouse where there is no known father because the child is illegitimate. The mother might have been in a relationship and been left holding the baby (literally) but she might have been the victim of rape by a stranger in which case "spouse" is inappropriate. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dropped birth date
mvmc...@aol.com wrote: > Will you accept an attachment? I'll copy the two views and show what I > mean. Can you upload the images to a free site? Everyone can then have a look to see if they can help you sort out the anomaly. Mailing lists don't accept attachments because of the size of them (not everyone has broadband, some use a mobile device) and also because of the risk of viruses and other malware. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Search List by Surname?
Tim Rosenlof wrote: > I am a bit confused. You're not alone :)) > > 1) > Rosenlof, Tim > Rosenlof, Bob > > 2) > Rosenlof, Bob > Rosenlof, Tim > > 3) > Tim Rosenlof > Bob Rosenlof > > 4) > Bob Rosenlof > Tim Rosenlof > > I assume you want number 4 ? I think Gene is after number 2. It might help to know why though because I can get the index to display by surname then alphabetically by given name. I have columns for birth date and place, death date and place, spouse, marital date and place which shows me what information is missing. What it doesn't show are the names of parents or children. I wish I could remember how I managed to print out the index! :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Search List by Surname?
Gene Wheeler wrote: > Is it possible to create a search list that is sorted by surname, > rather than given name? I use the index for that by clicking on surname or do you mean a different kind of search list? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Showing relationships under family tab - thanks
Many thanks to Gene, Myrna, Michele and Tim for their guidance :)) I'll give this a go and see what happens :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Showing relationships under family tab
Whilst watching Thomas MacEntee's webinar on cloud storage, I noticed Geoff Rasmussen had relationships under individuals in his database eg: 2nd cousin once removed under the wife and husband of 2nd cousin once removed. (I can't remember the exact wording.) It seems something that's quite useful but how does one do that? I can't see anything obvious in the Help File - probably because I'm using the wrong search parameter. If this is something to do with Tagging, don't worry about replying because I don't understand it and I don't have a spare machine to play around experimenting on. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Webinars
Cynthia wrote: > I know there is a webinar today and would like to register. > However, I live in Arizona and we do not change our time ever. I > know that Michigan is 3 hours ahead of us but, I don't know what > time it will be here when the webinar starts. Can anyone tell me > this? All the details are here: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting question
Jacob Psutka wrote: > In using Legacy Charting Companion (an add-on program) when two of my > ancestors intermarried, one pair was marked with diagonal stripes and > there were no descendants shown for that pair. The other pair had the > normal descendants. Thanks :)) That's handy to know because I want to chart the villages I'm OPC for. Many of the families intermarried. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] HELP Restoring backup
Ian GARDENER wrote: > Ward you are exactly correct. You hit the nail right on the head as > the multimedia files have never been deleted, moved or altered. The > issue has nothing to do with the multimedia files. > > I stupidly clicked something while my kids were in my face. Know that feeling!! You have my compasionate understanding! My dau's been home from college since May and I've done virtually no research since then because of regular interruptions. My son's now graduated and is about to move into assisted living accommodation. Two teens + 14 animals under one roof = ggg! and a bad attack of the screaming habdabs! Roll on September and what passes for normality in my house > Although impossible, it's as though that delete links > button is jammed on. Just a thought in a temporary lull in the chaos: is the "unlink/ delete" still checked to do that? Is there anywhere in the settings where there is that option? I have found that for some reason best known to its innards, my laptop sometimes decides /it/ knows best about what I need and ignores what I tell it it's supposed to do. It's as though the setting/button is, as you say, jammed on. Clipping two keys can have unexpected results too - as an IT guy, I guess you know that anyway. E+OE - rabbit on shoulder pretending to be a parrot and giving bunny kisses -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Wiki Relinks -- helpful for Legacy????
Pat Hickin wrote: > Wikipedia has something called "Relinks" that converts bare urls in > Wikipedia (and possibly elsewhere???) into full citations. > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REFLINKS > > I don't quite understand how it works, but if it could somehow be used with > Legacy source citations, it seems to me it could be quite useful. They are RefLinks (reference links) rather than relinks. I'm not sure how useful they would be, if at all. One thing to remember about Wikipedia, and any other wikis come to that, is anyone can alter them. Whilst it is mostly reliable, it's not completely reliable. I wouldn't suggest using Wikipedia as a source without qualification and/or verification. As a for instance: a claim was made that the founder of a well known (in England) newsagent and stationery firm was born in one of the parishes for which I am OPC. There is nothing in the parish registers to support the claim. It's erroneous and I corrected it despite the information originlly being added by someone else. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Best practices for scanning photocopies
Emily Moore wrote: > I have a number of photocopies, mostly obituaries from newspapers, > that I would like to scan and add to my Legacy Family Tree file as > multimedia images. I know the importance of descreening when > scanning original images of newspapers or magazines. Does that > apply to photocopies as well? What about scanning photocopies of > handwritten originals such as deeds or Bible records? And what is > the best way to scan photocopies of typewritten or printed > material? I have to say I've never heard of "descreening" but I've never had a problem scanning anything: photographs, photocopies, scans, originals, typed or printed documents. I use a lightweight portable Canon scanner, powered off my laptop, which makes good copies. If a scan needs any tweaking, I can do so in Irfanview. The advantage of my scanner is that I can invert it onto a book or file rather than try to balance it on the scanner. The most difficult are the large manuscript leases and agreements. I've been told Photostitch can handle those. I've yet to try though :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
