[LegacyUG] End of Days - Windows XP - 14 April
Hey Listers, Just a friendly reminder to those millions still using Windows XP. Windows XP will no longer be supported by M$ after 14 April 2014. For those of you still using this 12 year old operating system (OS) there are things you can do to keep it going for years. There is a very good tutorial on YouTube titled What you should do to keep using WindowsXP after April 2014. See: youtube dot com/watch?v=kr7ajYZD8CA The author is PuppyLinuxWorld, Steven Holms, a Brit. Mr. Holms also recommends other alternatives such as Windows 7 and various Linux OS distributions. I using am currently using Linux Lite for everything, but Legacy Family Tree, which is not fully compatible with Linux as yet. If you are still using XP and don't plan to change anytime soon, then you need to make sure XP remains safe and secure. Recommend you watch the YouTube video. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Days - Windows XP - 14 April
Hey Listers, As we all know, but may forget, Legacy depends on an operating system. Legacy requires MS Windows is some form or other. With many PC users still using Windows XP, this warning is not out of place, off topic. It may save someone's Legacy files from damage. The URL, I gave, will help raise security levels, not only for XP, but for the newer, slower, costly Windows versions. No operating system is totally secure. The road on which our operating systems lead, our programs. Legacy included, have to follow. Use caution. JimS On 01/30/2014 02:48 PM, Don Hanson wrote: Since this is off topic, I’m replying privately. “Support†is a term that means different things to different people. Extended support for all of the Windows XP versions ends April 8,2014. Support for the Service packs has already ended. What is extended through July 14, 2015 is Antimalware support for XP. For consumers, that applies to Microsoft Security Essentials. But, patches will not be issued after April 8. 2014 for XP. So, if you have Security Essentials, you will be able to detect and maybe block certain malware on XP machines, but the underlying vulnerability will not be patched, and the malware could infect the system after that detection. It’s meant to give a little more time to finish the migration to Win7 or Win8. But, it will not make XP secure. XP is not very secure when it’s fully patched, after April 8, it will be even less so. Win 7 is secure and not as much of a radical change as Win8 is. All of my programs worked first time. Secure and stable, I have no reservations recommending the upgrade to Win 7. My only advice would be to forget everything that you learned with XP. Learn the way that Windows 7 wants you to work. If you do that, you won’t get frustrated and within a few hours, you’ll be so comfortable that you’ll wonder what the fuss was about! grin I’ve given that advice for a couple of years and people still thank me. Don Hanson *From:*mvmc...@aol.com [mailto:mvmc...@aol.com] *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:21 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] End of Days - Windows XP - 14 April Actually the date given is 8 April 2014. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help The windows site says As a result, after April 8, 2014, technical assistance for Windows XP will no longer be available, including automatic updates that help protect your PC. Microsoft will also stop providing Microsoft Security Essentials http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download for download on Windows XP on this date. (If you already have Microsoft Security Essentials installed, you will continue to receive anti-malware signature updates for a limited time, but this does not mean that your PC will be secure because Microsoft will no longer be providing security updates to protect your PC.) On the youtube page someone said the support will go to 2015 but I haven't found anything on the Windows site to agree with that. Am I looking in the wrong place? Marie Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL /Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C. /---/ /CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations. In a message dated 30/1/2014 1:07:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net writes: Hey Listers, Just a friendly reminder to those millions still using Windows XP. Windows XP will no longer be supported by M$ after 14 April 2014. For those of you still using this 12 year old operating system (OS) there are things you can do to keep it going for years. There is a very good tutorial on YouTube titled What you should do to keep using WindowsXP after April 2014. See: youtube dot com/watch?v=kr7ajYZD8CA The author is PuppyLinuxWorld, Steven Holms, a Brit. Mr. Holms also recommends other alternatives such as Windows 7 and various Linux OS distributions. I using am currently using Linux Lite for everything, but Legacy Family Tree, which is not fully compatible with Linux as yet. If you are still using XP and don't plan to change anytime soon, then you need to make sure XP remains safe and secure. Recommend you watch the YouTube video. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on
Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading
Hi y'all, I think there has been a lot of good advice on this very important question. First, does your present version work properly for you. Does it do all you want it to do? Second, do you want more, another feature or three? Third, is the update version really ready? Or is it having issues? I'm still using version 5, since it does all I wish of it (except fully work in Linux OS). I've read about the new features, but they don't raise my heart beat. Maybe this will change, maybe not. But I do see that some of you delve much more deeply and you do need a much more comprehensive version than I do. Personally I like speed and updating to a newer version will not give me greater speed. In fact the newer the version, the slower it is. I would like to see Legacy make improvements on responsiveness. BTW I think M$ support for Windoz XP stops in March 1914. JimS On 12/26/2013 11:34 PM, John B. Lisle wrote: Cheryl, Orinda, et al, First, COPY COPY COPY was just for emphasis. If you convert your only 7.4 family file, you cannot go back. FS gets bug fixes with many new L8 builds. But Millennia is not sending out new builds of L7.5 so that version is not getting those updates. I have been using FS heavily with L8 build 367 all week without any problems. I may be a tester, but I get the same software all other users get. That does not mean that I have used every function of LFS. But I have connected folks to my FF, exchanged data both ways, done merges, marked possible dups as non-matches, etc. It could be that the problem for them is not with Legacy, but with their connection to FS. john. At 09:25 PM 12/26/2013, singhals wrote: A good point, John. Still, as often as they're changing FS, that may not be true by the time one manages to d/l and install the update. Then too, on another list, there seems to be something non-functional about FS this week in that nearly everyone (across a wide spectrum of browsers, computers, expertise, and locales) has had some problem with it. FWIW Cheryl John B. Lisle wrote: Denise, Helen, et al, One of the challenges with using 7.4,0.45 - or any version of 7.4 - is that the version of FamilySearch that comes with that does not support the current FamilySearch. It only works, if it works at all, with the version of FamilySearch that was recently made read only and will shortly be discontinued. If you wish to use Family Search Tree, you need to be on the latest version of Legacy 7.5. Further, since Legacy 8 was introduced, Legacy 7.5 was likely frozen, including the FamilySearch add on. The updates to that will likely only be available with Legacy 8. The best way to look at L8 and see if you might wish to move there is to download the free version and install it. Then COPY COPY COPY you family file to where ever you want to use and only open the copy with L8. If you do that you can still keep working with L7.obsolete. Leon's list of new features should be enough to take a peak. But L8 is from a quality point of view a much more reliable tool than earlier version. It is different and some of those differences will need to get used to. john. At 03:47 PM 12/26/2013, Denise wrote: I, too, have Vewsion 7.4.0.45 and am disinclined to upgrade. My version works just fine, and seeing all the emails about various 'bugs' gives me pause. On Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:15 AM, ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca wrote: Many of these bugs that were supposedly fixed in version 7.5.0.278 I've never come across. There are many features in the program that apply to the USA only and if the bug is there, I'd never find them and they wouldn't bother me. And the improvements in 7.5 weren't improvements to me, I just plain didn't want them. At this point, there are just too many things that are not debugged or missing in comparison with version 7.5. And too many useless-to-me bells and whistles features. Good luck with your database. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading
Hi y'all Sorry. Just another senior moment. I also lost 30 minutes this morning and was late to the Y. I wonder what is next!! Correct date for XP end of life is 8 April 2014. I'm still laughing. JimS On 12/27/2013 04:13 PM, Robert57P_gmail wrote: legacy (with a small L) meaning old, not meaning Legacy as in Legacy Family Tree!?!? ha ha ha But, yes, I agree. I have a totally functional old desktop that I still use for kids games and tutorials that runs Windows XP (OK, it contains some of my old games too). It will never get upgraded beyond XP because it is too old to support the newer operating systems (and, even if it did, it wouldn't make use of the newer OS's features). So I will miss the XP support/updates/patches. Bob On 12/27/2013 12:17, Charlene C wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote: Karen and Jim wrote: BTW I think M$ support for Windoz XP stops in March 1914. Somebody remind me -- why is that a bad thing? (G) Cheryl S Lots of business run legacy software that won't run on a newer operating system. --Charlene Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GMail Warnings on Mike Fry's messages
I also use both TB and gMail. Emails sent to me first go to my forwarding service. (A forwarding service is great when you are nomadic and change ISPs often.) My forwarding service then sends them to my ISP and also to gMail. My ISP sends to me and TB collects them. But it seems not all emails from user groups are successfully sent to gMail. As for security, spam, etc., email will never be totally secure. Email is basically not secure. It is difficult to make it so secure that no one outside the sender and the receiver can know that an email has been sent. And no government will allow this to happen when using an ISP. Since we send emails at our governments' permission, our governments want some access. If you have never received warnings and others have for the same email, then I would think you have weaker security. Security is a serious issue with Windoz operation system. It is a big target and suffers a tremendous number of attacks. That is why I use a safer Linux OS for everything, but Legacy. In about 3 months MS is dropping support for Windows XP. JimS On 12/19/2013 10:02 AM, Carlene wrote: I use Thunderbird and gmail to access this list and have never received warnings or spam on your messages. Do not post so unaware if my messages will go astray. On 12/19/2013 4:33 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2013/12/19 11:18, Kathy Thompson wrote: Name email address via legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com Mike's messages are just Name via legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com I wonder if gmail is alerting them because of how they are being received by the list or by the different individual gmail accounts Because of the lack of email address in that place Well, that's something different. I wonder if it's the way I use the gmail account? I NEVER use a browser for reading or sending email. I use Thunderbird to send and receive mail via two Gmail servers, smtp.gmail.com and pop.gmail.com. There's no real reason to use smtp.gmail.com for outbound mail. I could try passing mail through my ISPs server instead. I suppose I could also change the Reply-to address and see if I can get the mail back from a different server. Anyone else using Tbird and gmail and gmail servers? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Sherry, Yes, I know of this obscure correct spelling rule. But unfortunately on those rare occasions where I have had to reinstall Legacy and my data, I have forgotten Legacy's rule. Like word processors and spreadsheets Legacy should ask first and only make changes with the user's permission. But because of how Legacy sets the default of this obscure Legacy rule, my data becomes corrupted. Bottom Line: Legacy feels that, we the users, are not to be trusted with our spelling, not trusted to the degree that Legacy may make changes WITHOUT notice to us. Thus Legacy shows its lack of trust. JimS On 12/17/2013 10:03 PM, Sherry/Support wrote: Go to Options Customize Data Format 3.6 and change from 'Initial Caps to Don't change what I enter. Then go to the Master Location List (View Master List) and edit each location which was changed. I have all the options for letter case set to Don't Change What I Enter since I have names with mixed case (O'Brien, etc) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote: Explicitly - I have a lot of Danish ancestors. Therefore I use the Denmark country abbreviation DK (big D, big K). Legacy changes it to Dk (big D, little k) - without asking. Where - the Location file. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Cathy, Yes, I know of this setting change. But how would a new user know of this? It isn't part of Legacy's initial setup procedure. Why should one know the consequences of this setting before importing data? This setting does NOT make it obvious that while USA will remain all caps, the abbreviations of some (not all) other countries will become mixed caps and non-caps. We shouldn't have to make this setting change. Our data should be accepted as correct. This shows a lack of trust by Legacy. JimS On 12/18/2013 02:59 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote: Hi Jim, You have a settings issue. You could have solved this in Legacy 5 I think. Options - Customise - Data Format tab in earlier versions Now section 3. Instead of Initial Caps you choose Don't change what I enter. 3.6 for Locations but you can do it for names as well. Cathy At 09:35 AM 18/12/2013, you wrote: On 12/17/2013 06:38 PM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2013/12/18 00:42, Karen and Jim wrote: In the past (and I'm still using v.5) when I shift to another computer, install Legacy and my data, Legacy makes spelling changes without asking me first. You're going to have to be a little more explicit. Spelling changes, where? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Explicitly - I have a lot of Danish ancestors. Therefore I use the Denmark country abbreviation DK (big D, big K). Legacy changes it to Dk (big D, little k) - without asking. Where - the Location file. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Bill, YES YES YES You understand. But I think what I need to do is drag out my old pc and reinstall my Legacy v.5 to see if what Sherry wrote below is true. I don't remember it that way, but then my memory has never been sharp. I don't remember being required to go to Options Customize Data Format before Legacy would allow me to import my data file. JimS On 12/18/2013 12:06 PM, William Anderson wrote: Sherry, Whilst not having the same concern as Jim, I think I see where he is coming from. As I understand his emails, he wishes that the default behaviour for an existing data file imported into a new/updated installation of Legacy will be that no spelling changes will be made without explicit approval from the user. Thus forgetting to set particular options at the time of installation of Legacy will not result in unforeseen changes to the data in that file. Bill -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust Legacy has already asked your permission to change what you enter based on the selection you have in Options Customize Data Format. There are also options for date formatting in the Dates section Nothing is corrupted. You just need to go to Options and set the way you want it then you can make corrections in the Master Lists if you forgot to set the options your way. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Ron, The default settings change the spelling of some country abbreviations in the master Locations listing. In my case Denmark's DK (cap D, cap K) is changed to Dk (cap D, non-cap k). Legacy does not have the courtesy to prompt me to see if I want this change. Thus Legacy don't trust my spelling (or me). My data file becomes corrupted. Thankfully USA was not changed to Usa. JimS On 12/18/2013 12:06 PM, Ron Bernier wrote: What is this lack of trust that you keep repeating over and over again? How does a software/company show a lack of trust in any individual? You are apparently unhappy with the software's default formatting, but I fail to see how you can interpret this as a lack of trust. It is simply and clearly a default setting that is not to your liking. Ron Bernier Sent from my iPad On Dec 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote: Cathy, Yes, I know of this setting change. But how would a new user know of this? It isn't part of Legacy's initial setup procedure. Why should one know the consequences of this setting before importing data? This setting does NOT make it obvious that while USA will remain all caps, the abbreviations of some (not all) other countries will become mixed caps and non-caps. We shouldn't have to make this setting change. Our data should be accepted as correct. This shows a lack of trust by Legacy. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Ken, I use v.5 downloaded from Legacy. I enter my Deluxe code, since I bought v.5 years ago. Please understand that this issue ONLY happens to data I have imported and at the time of import. This does NOT happen to data I've entered by hand. And there is no change after saving. So if you want to test, first make a data file with a person born in DK. Save that file. Install v.5 (or any other version.) Import the file. I think you will see the location is changed to Dk (cap D, non-cap k). Thanks, JimS On 12/18/2013 12:20 PM, KenMcGinnis wrote: Jim S, I don't believe it. Send me your v5 file and I'll test it myself. Opening a v5 file with Legacy 8 doesn't change your data as you say it is. The display options may be set differently but the actual data hasn't changed. Send me your v5 file to kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com Tell me what data to look for that you think was changed and I'll check your file by opening it with a clean (meaning brand new install) of Legacy 8. Thanks, Ken McGinnis Millennia Corporation kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! *From*: Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net *Sent*: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:12 PM *To*: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject*: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust Hey, In the past (and I'm still using v.5) when I shift to another computer, install Legacy and my data, Legacy makes spelling changes without asking me first. I think this was a very bad policy. And it caused me several hours to change things back to original. I know I can change this default setting before I install my data. But during install Legacy doesn't ask if I want to keep my data the way I wrote it. And I forget Legacy thinks it knows better how I want certain foreign words spelled. Later after installing my data, I discover ... !@#$%^ Legacy should trust us. Legacy should have the courtesy to ask if we want any changes. That should be the default in my opinion. Legacy should trust us first. Has this spelling default been changed in versions later than v.5? If so, I may buy the newer version even if it is fatter and slower. I've used several genealogy programs starting with Roots II back in the 1980s. Legacy has been the best. I even suffer Windoz $#!+ so I can use Legacy. JimS Linux User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
Hey, In the past (and I'm still using v.5) when I shift to another computer, install Legacy and my data, Legacy makes spelling changes without asking me first. I think this was a very bad policy. And it caused me several hours to change things back to original. I know I can change this default setting before I install my data. But during install Legacy doesn't ask if I want to keep my data the way I wrote it. And I forget Legacy thinks it knows better how I want certain foreign words spelled. Later after installing my data, I discover ... !@#$%^ Legacy should trust us. Legacy should have the courtesy to ask if we want any changes. That should be the default in my opinion. Legacy should trust us first. Has this spelling default been changed in versions later than v.5? If so, I may buy the newer version even if it is fatter and slower. I've used several genealogy programs starting with Roots II back in the 1980s. Legacy has been the best. I even suffer Windoz $#!+ so I can use Legacy. JimS Linux User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Lack of Trust
On 12/17/2013 06:32 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote: Jim, This doesn't make a lot of sense. Right, it makes no sense at all. Are you saying you install Legacy and don't choose the language version before opening your data? Changing language for your data file even if just from English US to English Australia is enough to lose your own sentence definitions and revert to the default - and I think something may have been done about that in 8 - I know there was a discussion at some point. This is not a language issue. But what spelling is being changed in your own data? While USA is spelled USA, DK is spelled Dk (big D, little k). Since I have a lot of Danish ancestors, I use DK (big D, big K) a lot. Is it that you haven't set the same fonts in the new installation? Sounds like characters are mapping to a different one and I think that could happen if you were using a different character set. This is not a fonts or character mapping issue. That's the only thing I can think of that would change the spellling of something you've entered. Cathy At 06:42 AM 18/12/2013, you wrote: Hey, In the past (and I'm still using v.5) when I shift to another computer, install Legacy and my data, Legacy makes spelling changes without asking me first. I think this was a very bad policy. And it caused me several hours to change things back to original. I know I can change this default setting before I install my data. But during install Legacy doesn't ask if I want to keep my data the way I wrote it. And I forget Legacy thinks it knows better how I want certain foreign words spelled. Later after installing my data, I discover ... !@#$%^ Legacy should trust us. Legacy should have the courtesy to ask if we want any changes. That should be the default in my opinion. Legacy should trust us first. Has this spelling default been changed in versions later than v.5? If so, I may buy the newer version even if it is fatter and slower. I've used several genealogy programs starting with Roots II back in the 1980s. Legacy has been the best. I even suffer Windoz $#!+ so I can use Legacy. JimS Linux User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] High CPU usage
Hi, I've been using computers since 1970. Now I'm a Linux operating system (OS) user. Legacy is the only program I use requiring Windoz. Currently I use Win8. I still use LFT v.5 deluxe. It works, so why fix it. When Windoz of my main OS I did several things before installing new software. 1. I ran ccleaner, a free program that a. removed used programs, libraries, trash, etc. b. cleaned up the registry (there are better programs for cleaning the registry, but $$$. 2. I ran a good defrag program several times. 3. I lowered the value of some services. 4. Then I rebooted (cold) and installed the new program. 5. Then I ran my anti-this-and-that programs to check for !@#$%^ All this work is why I don't use Windoz, if I don't have to. Plus Windoz is slw. Too much maintenance, malware, and $$$. Wirth's law - Software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster. This law applies to Legacy. I doubt that LFT v.8 is as fast as my v.5. Wirth's law also applies to Linux with some versions of Linux being too fat to work well on older computers. Legacy Family Tree is such a great program (and I've used many others since 1984) that I suffer Windoz. JimS On 11/29/2013 01:33 AM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote: John, Thanks for helping out on this. It's definitely the Number of Events and also having the SHARED EVENTS included that is slowing it down. If I create a gedcom and exclude both events and media, it completes in 7 1/2 mins. If I exclude only events, it completes in 9 mins. If I include events and exclude media It takes over an hour If I exclude SHARED Events it completes in 8 Mins Funny thing is, I haven't yet created any shared events. Jay On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com mailto:leg...@tqsi.com wrote: Jay, I have forwarded your issue to the test list. That type of time difference is not expected. I assume you have your L8 on your SSD drive... Could you please run a test and get back to me privately? What I noticed that was very different in your Gedcom was the relatively high number of Media items. Could you please report the time but exclude exporting the Media items? I would like to give the developers some additional guidance about what might be the factor affecting the time. If you have any other class of items that might seem disproportionately larger than in a normal Gedcom, try excluding that class individually also for a test. thanks, john. At 11:30 PM 11/28/2013, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote: William, How many People are in your file and what the size of your .fdb file? I have 221,693 persons and my .fdb is 423,072 KB Jay On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:15 PM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: No speed problems running Legacy 8 with Windows 7 Home Premium 64, 8 GB's memory, 2009 computer.  I already got rid of Legacy 7.5. I'm very satisfied with Legacy 8 and I give many thanks to the developers. My ancestors thank you too.  Also thanks to all of the beta testers. This is a fine product and very reasonably priced.  From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:07 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] High CPU usage  Gavin, et al, I am not an employee of Millennia but have been a user and tester for 10 years so I can be frank... and maybe not too politic. ;-) Yes, L8 can run on small computers with limited resources and really old Windows versions, but it will be slow. L8 runs best on XP or above Windows and has been tested on all versions through Win8. (I do not know if anyone has done Win 8.1 testing.) It has been tested on reasonable modern computers with databases that are at or near the spec limits. Several FF of 300-500K people have performed very well. Family View will be slower if you have PP Alerts and FS Integration turned on; and without them it will still be a bit slower than L7.5. as trying to draw the new FV form just seems to take longer. Please note that double click navigation is gone. I hated that at first but have come to see that single click is more effective and faster and some of the new services and tools on FV make life easier. In real life, you are not spending all of your time redrawing this form, but you are going to be spending a lot of time editing and adding data. And this is just as fast or faster than before. Have you noted the 2.2 options to enable
Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????
Elizabeth, § is called the *section sign*, also called double S, hurricane, and the legal doughnut. It is a typographicalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical character used mainly to refer to a particular sectionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_%28documents%29 of a document, such as a legal code. This answer is from wikipedia.org via google. I asked google what is §. Google is your friend. JimS On 11/27/2013 02:43 PM, elizabeth wrote: I can't find what this means in the help file... Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the end of their name that looks like 2 Ss on top of each other. It's a 'squiggly' looking thing, I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody but no matter what I do that symbol is still there. Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it? Thank you, Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Mind Mapping Your Research Plans and Results by Thomas MacEntee
Ron, Ron, I tend to agree with your analysis. Google has given me a calendar open to such issues. I shouldn't have trusted Google to know what I want. How would Google know that the webinars were blocking out my doctor appointments. I do hope that Kathy's instructions work for me. Otherwise I'll need to install another PIM which includes a calendar. I'll try a 2nd Google calendar first and see if webinars are in it also. Hold everything!! I think I've found my solution. In the column to the left of my calendar is Other calendars. Opening Other Calendars I find the option to select/deselect Legacy Family Tree. I deselected it and the webinars disappeared, both today's and in following month's calendars. Part solution found, part control re-assumed. Still can't rid the Legacy Family Tree entry from this area Google calendar. But now webinar entries do not interfere with the entries I make, such as doctor appointments and that is what is important to me. Thanks Ron and Kathy for your input. JimS Moore's law - The number of transistors on integrated circuits doubles approximately every two years. This law has been updated in 2010 to every 3 years. Technology in this area seems to be slowing down!! On 11/20/2013 04:44 AM, Ron Bernier wrote: JimS, Legacy has not taken control of anyone's calendar. The fault lies within your own calendar settings. I also have a subscription to the webinars and I have never had any webinar automatically added to my calendar. It is totally ridiculous to think anyone can add any event to your calendar unless you have set up your calendar to automatically accept invitations. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Kathy, Thanks for the reply. I did as you suggested. Hopefully no new event will appear. The old events are still there and I can't seem to get rid of them. Legacy's action of locking their events to my calendar is an unacceptable practice. I feel I should be in control of my calendar. Not Legacy. I should be able to remove any event. But Legacy has hijacked my calendar and will not allow me to remove their events. Is this a hidden cost for permission to participate in the webinars? Frankly, while the webinars are good, and I would like to view more, the cost is too high. Trust is lost. Kathy Thanks again, JimS No government allows its citizens to have a totally anonymous email service. - On 11/18/2013 05:46 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: To Karen Jim Look in GMail setting for the following Automatically add invitations to my calendar: Yes Yes, but don't send event reminders unless I have responded Yes or Maybe No, only display invitations to which I have replied Make sure the last one is selected and then save changes. No more events being added without your approval. Hope this helps. On 19 November 2013 08:42, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Unsubscribe me from the webinars please. The webinars have hijacked my google calendar and I can't seem to remove them. JimS On 11/18/2013 11:11 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote: Mind mapping is a process of creating a diagram or flow chart of ideas and concepts. In this webinar presented by Thomas MacEntee, you will learn about automated mindmapping tools that let you see your research data in a new light. Do you have trouble planning a genealogy research strategy? What if you had an automated way to lay out concepts, variables and actions? Mind mapping can help you create an effective research plan as well as help you connect data points once the research is completed. Join us for the live webinar Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 2pm Eastern U.S. Register today to reserve your virtual seat. Registration is free but space is limited to the first 1,000 people to join that day. Before joining, please visit www.java.com http://www.java.com/ to ensure you have the latest version of Java which our webinar software requires. When you join, if you receive a message that the webinar is full, you know we've reached the 1,000 limit, so we invite you to view the recording which should be published to the webinar archives within an hour or two of the event's conclusion. *Download the syllabus* In preparation for the webinar, download Thomas' 4 pages of supplemental syllabus materials here http://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=154
Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Mind Mapping Your Research Plans and Results by Thomas MacEntee
Kathy, Thanks for the reply. I did as you suggested. Hopefully no new event will appear. The old events are still there and I can't seem to get rid of them. Legacy's action of locking their events to my calendar is an unacceptable practice. I feel I should be in control of my calendar. Not Legacy. I should be able to remove any event. But Legacy has hijacked my calendar and will not allow me to remove their events. Is this a hidden cost for permission to participate in the webinars? Frankly, while the webinars are good, and I would like to view more, the cost is too high. Trust is lost. Kathy Thanks again, JimS No government allows its citizens to have a totally anonymous email service. - On 11/18/2013 05:46 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: To Karen Jim Look in GMail setting for the following Automatically add invitations to my calendar: Yes Yes, but don't send event reminders unless I have responded Yes or Maybe No, only display invitations to which I have replied Make sure the last one is selected and then save changes. No more events being added without your approval. Hope this helps. On 19 November 2013 08:42, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Unsubscribe me from the webinars please. The webinars have hijacked my google calendar and I can't seem to remove them. JimS On 11/18/2013 11:11 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote: Mind mapping is a process of creating a diagram or flow chart of ideas and concepts. In this webinar presented by Thomas MacEntee, you will learn about automated mindmapping tools that let you see your research data in a new light. Do you have trouble planning a genealogy research strategy? What if you had an automated way to lay out concepts, variables and actions? Mind mapping can help you create an effective research plan as well as help you connect data points once the research is completed. Join us for the live webinar Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 2pm Eastern U.S. Register today to reserve your virtual seat. Registration is free but space is limited to the first 1,000 people to join that day. Before joining, please visit www.java.com http://www.java.com/ to ensure you have the latest version of Java which our webinar software requires. When you join, if you receive a message that the webinar is full, you know we've reached the 1,000 limit, so we invite you to view the recording which should be published to the webinar archives within an hour or two of the event's conclusion. *Download the syllabus* In preparation for the webinar, download Thomas' 4 pages of supplemental syllabus materials here http://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=154. The include: * Mind Mapping - A Brief Introduction * How Mind Mapping for Genealogy Works * A Sample Mind Mapped Genealogy Research Proof * Mind Mapping Platforms * Best Practices for Mind Mapping * Resource List The syllabus is available for annual or monthly webinar subscribers. Log in here http://familytreewebinars.com/login.php or subscribe here http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php. Registerbut http://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=154 *Test Your Webinar Connection* To ensure that your webinar connection is ready to go, click here http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/Webinar/help_files/G2W060001?title=Test+Your+Connection+before+Your+Session%7D. *Can't make it to the live event?* No worries. Its recording will be available for free for the first 7 days after the live event. Webinar Subscribers http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php have unlimited access for the duration of their membership. *About the presenter* *Tmacentee-100 http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/.a/6a00d8341d219b53ef019b0149bf10970d-pi*When Thomas MacEntee is not busy writing blog posts, organizing the 2500+ members of GeneaBloggers, teaching online genealogy webinars and more, Thomas MacEntee is busy in his role as “genealogy ninja.†Stealth is not always easy, but Thomas manages to get the inside track on emerging technologies and vendors as they relate to the genealogy industry. After being laid off from a 25-year career in the tech industry in 2008, Thomas has been able to “repurpose†his skill set for the genealogy community and loves to see other genealogists succeed, whether it is with their own research or building their own careers in the field. You can reach Thomas at hidef...@gmail.com mailto:hidef...@gmail.com or visit his site at High-Definition Genealogy.* * Watch Thomas' previous
Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Webinar Wednesday - Mind Mapping Your Research Plans and Results by Thomas MacEntee
Unsubscribe me from the webinars please. The webinars have hijacked my google calendar and I can't seem to remove them. JimS On 11/18/2013 11:11 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote: Mind mapping is a process of creating a diagram or flow chart of ideas and concepts. In this webinar presented by Thomas MacEntee, you will learn about automated mindmapping tools that let you see your research data in a new light. Do you have trouble planning a genealogy research strategy? What if you had an automated way to lay out concepts, variables and actions? Mind mapping can help you create an effective research plan as well as help you connect data points once the research is completed. Join us for the live webinar Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at 2pm Eastern U.S. Register today to reserve your virtual seat. Registration is free but space is limited to the first 1,000 people to join that day. Before joining, please visit www.java.com http://www.java.com/ to ensure you have the latest version of Java which our webinar software requires. When you join, if you receive a message that the webinar is full, you know we've reached the 1,000 limit, so we invite you to view the recording which should be published to the webinar archives within an hour or two of the event's conclusion. *Download the syllabus* In preparation for the webinar, download Thomas' 4 pages of supplemental syllabus materials here http://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=154. The include: * Mind Mapping - A Brief Introduction * How Mind Mapping for Genealogy Works * A Sample Mind Mapped Genealogy Research Proof * Mind Mapping Platforms * Best Practices for Mind Mapping * Resource List The syllabus is available for annual or monthly webinar subscribers. Log in here http://familytreewebinars.com/login.php or subscribe here http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php. Registerbut http://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=154 *Test Your Webinar Connection* To ensure that your webinar connection is ready to go, click here http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/Webinar/help_files/G2W060001?title=Test+Your+Connection+before+Your+Session%7D. *Can't make it to the live event?* No worries. Its recording will be available for free for the first 7 days after the live event. Webinar Subscribers http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php have unlimited access for the duration of their membership. *About the presenter* *Tmacentee-100 http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/.a/6a00d8341d219b53ef019b0149bf10970d-pi*When Thomas MacEntee is not busy writing blog posts, organizing the 2500+ members of GeneaBloggers, teaching online genealogy webinars and more, Thomas MacEntee is busy in his role as “genealogy ninja.†Stealth is not always easy, but Thomas manages to get the inside track on emerging technologies and vendors as they relate to the genealogy industry. After being laid off from a 25-year career in the tech industry in 2008, Thomas has been able to “repurpose†his skill set for the genealogy community and loves to see other genealogists succeed, whether it is with their own research or building their own careers in the field. You can reach Thomas at hidef...@gmail.com mailto:hidef...@gmail.com or visit his site at High-Definition Genealogy.* * Watch Thomas' previous webinars here http://familytreewebinars.com/presenter_details.php?presenter_id=29. *Add it to your Google Calendar* With our Google Calendar button, you will never forget our upcoming webinars. Simply click the button to add it to your calendar. You can then optionally embed the webinar events (and even turn them on and off) into your own personal calendar. If you have already added the calendar, you do not have to do it again - the new webinar events will automatically appear.* * http://www.google.com/calendar/render?cid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fcalendar%2Ffeeds%2Flegacyfamilytree.com_1dbb76rklg9uqeajd75dr9odnk%2540group.calendar.google.com%2Fpublic%2Fbasic *Webinar time* The webinar will be live on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 at: * 2pm Eastern (U.S.) * 1pm Central * 12pm Mountain * 11am Pacific * 7pm GMT Or use this Time Zone Converter http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc. *Here's how to attend:* 1. Register at www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com http://www.familytreewebinars.com/ today. It's free! 2. You will receive a confirmation email containing a link to the webinar. 3. You will receive a reminder email both 1 day and 1 hour prior to the live webinar. 4. Calculate your time zone by clicking here http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc. 5. Make sure you have the latest version of Java installed on your computer. Check at www.java.com http://www.java.com/. 6. Check your GoToWebinar connection here
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 8
I would hope that the new version would: 1. Be faster. 2. Have a smaller footprint. 3. Not use proprietary database code. 4. Work in Linux also. I don't trust Legacy to achieve any of my hopes. Legacy will probably be bigger, have more baggage, and therefore run slower. Wirth's law - Software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster. I'm still using v.5 deluxe and see no reason to fix what works for me. It is the only program I use that requires Windoz. !@#$%^* JimS On 11/18/2013 08:07 AM, Michele/Support wrote: The programmers have not given us a firm release date for Version 8 but they are still shooting for before the end of the year. That is all we know :) Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Chromebook
James, James, I think your answer is the best. Except I would be afraid to connect a Windoz computer to the Internet due to security issues I've had with Windoz in the past. But if VNC is reasonably secure, than good. At the beginning of this year my laptop died and I investigated replacements including Chromebooks. I found there are several different Chromebooks They have different processors and bios. They are all on the slow side and not very versatile. But there is a way to get Windoz to run on certain Chromebooks. Create a virtual machine and run Windoz in it. It will be terribly slow, even with all unnecessary Windoz services disabled. It may be necessary to crack open the bottom panel and add more memory for more speed. It is an option for those who don't have a 2nd computer with Windoz to connect to. I bought an HP2000 with Win8. That model has a touch-pad design flaw, so I got it cheap, just a bit more than the Samsung Chromebook. The only thing I use Windoz for is Legacy, otherwise I use Linux. Linux is better, faster, and safer for my day-to-day Internet use. I'm using it now and running Linux. JimS On 10/24/2013 03:35 PM, James Cook wrote: Again, I am not familiar with Chromebook, but the marketing would indicate this is not true. See my earlier post, and... VNC Viewer for Google Chrome is from RealVNC, the inventor of VNC remote access and control technology. It can connect to any Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, or UNIX computer running VNC-compatible Server technology On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Legacy only runs in a Microsoft Windows environment. Chromebooks run Chrome OS which is essentially the Chrome browser with a keyboard. Anything that runs under Chrome like Google Docs will work on the Chromebook. Legacy is not browser based so it will not work under Chrome OS. It is unlikely that Chromebooks will ever run a virtual machine in which Windows might operate. The answer is NO to Windows based programs. Ron Taylor -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â
Doug, This mark is called a diacritical mark. Many languages which use the Roman alphabet also use diacritical marks to show how the word is pronounced and/or the word's meaning. Google diacritic to find more info. JimS On 11/04/2013 08:34 PM, Douglas Tighe wrote: Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite often is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I missing out on something. Cheers Doug Tighe Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â
Doug, Don't believe this has nothing to do with Legacy. If you need to enter a word having a diacritical mark, then Legacy must be able to store and present it properly. That in turn means that your computer must store and reproduce data with diacritical marks. I've had to make certain adjustments with my operating systems (OS) to be able to enter words with diacritical marks in Legacy. I've seen failure to display such with some programs, as Brian pointed out below. I use diacritical marks with Legacy and have experienced not problems once I made necessary keyboard adjustments to my OS. JimS On 11/05/2013 10:28 PM, Douglas Tighe wrote: Thanks to all for the information I can now go back to Aussie talk knowing that these symbols really don't effect Legacy. Ron, I feel it did warrant explaining as it effects the UG forum and as you say not Legacy. Doug Tighe On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@icloud.com mailto:ronaldbern...@icloud.com wrote: Bottom line - this has nothing at all to do with Legacy, so why is this subject being driven into the ground. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote: Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain text, it consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close parenthesis) but within HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever characters set the user is using (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one smiley face character usually from a special symbols typeface. And another example is this: I will insert a “horizontal line†below this paragraph. You should see it because I am sending in HTML. If you attempt to reply to this message and switch to plain text, I think the horizontal line will disappear entirely. Horizontal line here: One character smiley face here: J Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters showing up on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the original character was intended to be. Brian in CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Linux - PlayOnLinux
Virtual Box is a great product and available in Linux. I've used VB to test various Linux distributions. I had been thinking about going that route. But that route is not free. You still need M$ Windoz inside VB to run Legacy. M$ sells Windoz. It is not free. One way or another you pay money for it. I own a legal disc copy of XP. Also Windoz is not free from viruses, etc. Linux is relatively free from attacks, which is the main reason why I use Linux. I'll keep y'all posted on any problems I may have with PlayOnLinux and Legacy Family Tree. So far all is good. JimS Legacy Family Tree v.5 Delux LinuxMint 13 on my home built PC see distrowatch.com for Linux info On 01/30/2013 09:22 PM, Sherry/Support wrote: Thanks for the info. I've heard good reports on Sun's Virtual Box as well Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, karen and jim sindbe...@att.net wrote: Hi, Good news. In the past I've mentioned that I use a Linux operating system instead of Windoz or Mac. And for a long time I could not get Legacy Family Tree to work in Linux. People have used WINE as sort of an emulator. But that didn't work for me. But resently I discovered PlayOnLinux. So far it works. And it is FREE as are most Linux programs. Legacy Family Tree has been my last M$ program and now no more M$ Windoz required. If I find I need another Windoz program, I'll run it inside PlayOnLinux. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Jump to Notes
Hi Listers, Something weird happened this morning. While working in Legacy, suddenly there was a change. When I saved an individual Legacy would jump to notes. This was new and had never happed before. So - I went to Options, Data Entry, and found a check in th Adding/Editing, Jump to Notes... box. Removing the check and saving has corrected this issue, so far. But I do wonder why this issue started. I wasn't doing anything different. BTW - we had a one second power outage this morning also. We have a lot of that around here. Lighting too. I need to get a new UPS. The PC self warm-booted. I brought Legacy up and all looked good. Jump to Notes did not start immediately. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried
On 09/28/2012 01:09 PM, R G Strong-genes wrote: R G First off there is not a bug! I disagree. Reasons to follow. Did you mark this couple an not married on the marriage info screen? Originally I marked their marriage status as unmarried. If you did then the labels will change back to Male and Female. No. This did NOT make them Male and Female. They were still labeled Husband and Wife. BUG. I found no way to make them Male and Female and still have them as parents of a child including unlinking the 3 of them and then relinking. They keep being Husband and Wife and unmarried. BUG. Second when you opened the marriage screen and there is no marriage then you should have clicked cancel and not clicked the X. Yes, I found that out while testing this issue. Just closing the window Legacy will assume that there is a marriage but you have no marriage info to enter. Yes, I found that out also. IMHO Legacy should not assume so much until WE say it is so. If Legacy Family Tree software, has an issue with us, the default should be a pop-up and ask. This same procedure should be adhered to for all screens. If THERE IS A CANCEL button use that and not the X to close if you have not entered any data or don’t want the changes saved as this will happen when the window is closed with the X button. Closing a window with X when NO data has been entered should be the same as Cancel. OK, I can adjust to Legacy's way, but I don't believe it is NOT standard across all software. But I may be wrong and it is a very small issue I can live with. Legacy, even with its faults, is still the best. It isn't perfect. Thanks R G JimS *From:* Karen and Jim mailto:sindbe...@att.net *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:25 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried Brian, Let's start with a fact, a fact of life in the real world. In the real world we have many unwed mothers and unwed fathers. I have a similar issue as Pat's. I have a man and a women who had a child. The couple did not marry each other. But Legacy labels them Husband and Wife. Unlinking Husband from Wife also UNLINKS the Father from his child. BAD. I smell a bug. This should not happen. The Mother is still linked to their child and is Wife to Husband Unknown. Unlinking the Mother from Unknown Husband UNLINKED her from her child also. Equally BAD and should not happen. These 3 people are biologically linked in real life, but NOT by marriage and therefore not by Legacy. Second case: I just clicked on a child, labeled Male. Then I clicked on Marriage Information and did not enter anything. I clicked on the X to close Marriage Information. When I came back to the child, who had died shortly after birth, he was labeled Husband. And Legacy had married him to a Wife with the name Unknown. I unlinked the pair successfully per your instructions and the little fellow is now no longer a husband. Thank you. Your statement If she had children then there must be a marriage to create the link between her and her children ... may be true for you in Legacy, but in the real world this assumption is often false. This situation could be corrected by not labeling parents as Husband and Wife until WE, your customers, enter the necessary data into Marriage Information. IMHO this is a bug in Legacy's programming. JimS Legacy v.5 Deluxe 40+ yrs ADP incl. programming. On 09/26/2012 07:27 PM, Pat Hickin wrote: Thanks, Brian,  I knew that option was somewhere but couldn't find it.  However that brings up another matter, especially for men -- I may pretty well know that he never married, but he could certainly have fathered children that I know nothing about.  I wish the option simply said He never married. and stopped at that. Pat On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Since you have made an entry in the marriage info for this person Legacy has linked her to an unknown husband (The married someone comes from that link). If she truly never married and had no children then you should indicate that on the person's individual information screen not by setting a marriage status. If she had children then there must be a marriage to create the link between her and her children so my fix below cannot be used. Remove the marriage link by selecting the person, right click on her marriage info bar Select the Remove the marriage link option from the drop down menu Now edit the person and click the This individual never married and had no children option below the list of events. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 26
Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried
Brian, This is good to know. Thanks Brian. I'll tag your email as a keeper. For now I can live with this issue. As y'all know now, I'm still using v.5 Deluxe on an old PC that would be retired in business. This pc does only Legacy. No Internet connection. I've cleaned up M$ Windoz XP for speed. My needs here are simple. Mostly data entry and reports for relatives. And I like speed. And until now I've found no reason to upgrade. And the changes Brian has mentioned below are not worth the time and expense for me to upgrade. But if v.7+ is faster, then ... JimS Writh's law - Software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster. On 09/29/2012 05:19 PM, Brian/Support wrote: The ability to change wording for marriages is a new feature in Version 7. It does not exist in versions before that so any discussion of labels for unmarried couples and the wording of sentences for unmarried couples will only apply to Version 7. Karen and Jim indicate they are using Version 5.0 Deluxe. We stopped making changes to that version after Legacy 6.0 was released. The final version of Legacy 5.0 was issued 12 Dec 2006 There were three versions of Legacy 5 released after the issue of Legacy 6.0 in August 2005. In Jan 2006 we added a new PDF creator and made a change to keep Legacy 5 current with a change to the IGI log in from FamilySearch.org. In May we updated the file format to keep it compatible with Legacy 6.0 and in Dec 2006 we fixed some issues with the Calendar Creator. As Mike says below, the only bug reports that we consider and enter into our problem reporting system are those which can be confirmed in the latest release of Legacy 7.0. Those who continue to use older versions just have to accept the limitations inherent in older software. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] problem with unmarried
Brian, Let's start with a fact, a fact of life in the real world. In the real world we have many unwed mothers and unwed fathers. I have a similar issue as Pat's. I have a man and a women who had a child. The couple did not marry each other. But Legacy labels them Husband and Wife. Unlinking Husband from Wife also UNLINKS the Father from his child. BAD. I smell a bug. This should not happen. The Mother is still linked to their child and is Wife to Husband Unknown. Unlinking the Mother from Unknown Husband UNLINKED her from her child also. Equally BAD and should not happen. These 3 people are biologically linked in real life, but NOT by marriage and therefore not by Legacy. Second case: I just clicked on a child, labeled Male. Then I clicked on Marriage Information and did not enter anything. I clicked on the X to close Marriage Information. When I came back to the child, who had died shortly after birth, he was labeled Husband. And Legacy had married him to a Wife with the name Unknown. I unlinked the pair successfully per your instructions and the little fellow is now no longer a husband. Thank you. Your statement If she had children then there must be a marriage to create the link between her and her children ... may be true for you in Legacy, but in the real world this assumption is often false. This situation could be corrected by not labeling parents as Husband and Wife until WE, your customers, enter the necessary data into Marriage Information. IMHO this is a bug in Legacy's programming. JimS Legacy v.5 Deluxe 40+ yrs ADP incl. programming. On 09/26/2012 07:27 PM, Pat Hickin wrote: Thanks, Brian, I knew that option was somewhere but couldn't find it. However that brings up another matter, especially for men -- I may pretty well know that he never married, but he could certainly have fathered children that I know nothing about. I wish the option simply said He never married. and stopped at that. Pat On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Since you have made an entry in the marriage info for this person Legacy has linked her to an unknown husband (The married someone comes from that link). If she truly never married and had no children then you should indicate that on the person's individual information screen not by setting a marriage status. If she had children then there must be a marriage to create the link between her and her children so my fix below cannot be used. Remove the marriage link by selecting the person, right click on her marriage info bar Select the Remove the marriage link option from the drop down menu Now edit the person and click the This individual never married and had no children option below the list of events. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 26/09/2012 16:25, Pat Hickin wrote: Yes, I hadn't even noticed the date, Jenny, which is when she wrote her will -- she was never married. I just don't want Legacy telling us that she was unmarried AND that she married someone! It does that even when there's no date involved. Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships in GEDCOM
Thanks Sherry, I've been using Event in Events/Facts and that has worked well. It may not be the correct use of Event, but I couldn't find anything else. It is labor intensive as I have to do one person at a time. Using the REPEAT button helps. I don't use Event clipboard for just 2 lines per individual. Originally I thought I could make my own Events/Facts catagorie and call it Facts or ??? Would that have worked? I didn't test it as yet with the service I'm using. I don't if GEDCOM will accept it. History: For the past several years I have emailed my GEDCOM to GEDCOMP a GEDCOM comparison service. I think it is something like the GENMatcher program Legacy advertizes. GEDCOMP is a free service. Also it makes recommendations on improving/correcting my GEDCOM and gives me 5 days to make changes if I want, before GEDCOMP compares my GEDCOM to others and emails me the results. Events worked with GEDCOMP. Goal: I would like those who receive my matches, to be able to know when my people are my blood relatives. I've found some distance cousins. I hope to find more. BTW, do you know of any other people offering a free matching service? JimS On 09/21/2012 01:08 PM, Sherry/Support wrote: There isn't a gedcom tag for Relationships between individuals, just Relationship to Father (FREL) and Relationship to Mother (MREL) - used to indicate whether the child is biological, adopted, foster, etc. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net wrote: Hi Listers, Every so often I send my GEDCOM file out to a free service which compares it with others who have done the same. What I would like to do is have my relationship to my blood relatives show up on the GEDCOM. I.e., there would be a note on my father's GEDCOM record that he is my father. Any suggestions? JimS Legacy v.5 Deluxe Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED
Jan, I could not find Event Clipboard. Remember, I'm using v.5, so maybe Event Clipboard is not available. I have found only Source Clipboard in v.5. JimS On 09/16/2012 07:48 PM, Jan Roberts wrote: If you go to Events in the Help file in the program this is what you see - Using the Event Clipboard To copy an Event to the clipboard: 1. Click the button. [shows the copy icon - removed because this is in plain text] To paste an Event from the clipboard to a list: 1. Open the Add Event window for the person or marriage you want to add the event to. 2. Click the button. [shows the paste button - removed because this is in plaint text] I doubt you could get much plainer than that. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Western Spirit Wood Creations [mailto:westernspi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 08:40 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED There are many easy to use features in Legacy (and other programs) it is too bad that help menus are rarely written in plain language that doesn't require learning a totally new tongue to find something. Most helps don't help unless you already know what to look for. One of my pet peeves. Bev M. - Original Message - From: Karen and Jim Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED On 09/16/2012 03:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote: Hi Listers, Using ver 5 Deluxe. I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts. When doing census for a large families, 10 - 15 children. I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again. I would like to automated this procedure. I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and all four boxes would be filled. I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action: cen Living with parents. 1930 Helt I copied the above into Notepad, separating with tabs, but everything stayed in the first box, Event. Can this be done? JimS Thanks for your replies. They did not seem to answer my question, but when checking your answers out, I found the REPEAT button inside EVENTS/FACTS. It works beautifully. Just type the data in for the first person and click click ... REPEAT for the rest. Strange I couldn't find reference to it in the handbook for EVENTS/FACTS, but it is mentioned in ADDING AN ADDRESS. Thanks again for pushing me in the right direction. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED
Thanks Jan. You instructions were very clear and I found the 2 icons quickly. Doing this your way is 2-3 clicks faster than using REPEAT. Plus I was missing REPEAT and clicking on CLEAR. ;=( I will try it. JimS On 09/17/2012 07:26 PM, Jan Roberts wrote: If you are in the Add Event Screen you will see two little icons beneath the buttons for Save / Cancel / Spell Check etc. They are the same icons as you will have seen for the Source Clipboard. I am pretty sure they have always been there, but as I am on Version 7 it is a long while since I have used Version 5. Perhaps someone from Support could clarify. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:29 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED Jan, I could not find Event Clipboard. Remember, I'm using v.5, so maybe Event Clipboard is not available. I have found only Source Clipboard in v.5. JimS On 09/16/2012 07:48 PM, Jan Roberts wrote: If you go to Events in the Help file in the program this is what you see - Using the Event Clipboard To copy an Event to the clipboard: 1. Click the button. [shows the copy icon - removed because this is in plain text] To paste an Event from the clipboard to a list: 1. Open the Add Event window for the person or marriage you want to add the event to. 2. Click the button. [shows the paste button - removed because this is in plaint text] I doubt you could get much plainer than that. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Western Spirit Wood Creations [mailto:westernspi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 08:40 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED There are many easy to use features in Legacy (and other programs) it is too bad that help menus are rarely written in plain language that doesn't require learning a totally new tongue to find something. Most helps don't help unless you already know what to look for. One of my pet peeves. Bev M. - Original Message - From: Karen and Jim Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED On 09/16/2012 03:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote: Hi Listers, Using ver 5 Deluxe. I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts. When doing census for a large families, 10 - 15 children. I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again. I would like to automated this procedure. I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and all four boxes would be filled. I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action: cen Living with parents. 1930 Helt I copied the above into Notepad, separating with tabs, but everything stayed in the first box, Event. Can this be done? JimS Thanks for your replies. They did not seem to answer my question, but when checking your answers out, I found the REPEAT button inside EVENTS/FACTS. It works beautifully. Just type the data in for the first person and click click ... REPEAT for the rest. Strange I couldn't find reference to it in the handbook for EVENTS/FACTS, but it is mentioned in ADDING AN ADDRESS. Thanks again for pushing me in the right direction. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Relationships in GEDCOM
Hi Listers, Every so often I send my GEDCOM file out to a free service which compares it with others who have done the same. What I would like to do is have my relationship to my blood relatives show up on the GEDCOM. I.e., there would be a note on my father's GEDCOM record that he is my father. Any suggestions? JimS Legacy v.5 Deluxe Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Same event for many people
Hi Listers, Using ver 5 Deluxe. I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts. When doing census for a large families, 10 - 15 children. I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again. I would like to automated this procedure. I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and all four boxes would be filled. I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action: cen Living with parents. 1930 Helt I copied the above into Notepad, separating with tabs, but everything stayed in the first box, Event. Can this be done? JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED
On 09/16/2012 03:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote: Hi Listers, Using ver 5 Deluxe. I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts. When doing census for a large families, 10 - 15 children. I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again. I would like to automated this procedure. I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and all four boxes would be filled. I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action: cen Living with parents. 1930 Helt I copied the above into Notepad, separating with tabs, but everything stayed in the first box, Event. Can this be done? JimS Thanks for your replies. They did not seem to answer my question, but when checking your answers out, I found the REPEAT button inside EVENTS/FACTS. It works beautifully. Just type the data in for the first person and click click ... REPEAT for the rest. Strange I couldn't find reference to it in the handbook for EVENTS/FACTS, but it is mentioned in ADDING AN ADDRESS. Thanks again for pushing me in the right direction. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Ron, Yes, Ron, I've found a easy work-around that temporarily fixes this bug. I simply reboot Legacy and the bug goes away. Since this PC is now on 24/7, the bug hasn't returned. I don't expect Legacy to fix this bug in v. 5. And I understand Legacy's need to use Windoz printer driver to display Reports on screen. That is fine with me. My work-around works satisfactorily for me. Problem solved. JimS On 09/13/2012 12:56 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Jim, But you came onto this list because yours was not working as you expected. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net wrote: Lee and Ron, Bottom line: If it works, don't fix it. JimS = On 09/12/2012 03:57 PM, Lee Bruch wrote: Jim: Am I correct that you dislike windoz and are using linux? Does Legacy work on Linux? How does Linux decide how to create screen images if it doesn't reference to a default printer? -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer Jim, I am right in thinking that you are still using V5. If so do you really expect Legacy to amend such an outdated version? This does not mean I agree with your comments, I don't. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 J Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net wrote: Sherry, I'm assume that Legacy is using Windoz Print Preview for the report screen display. And I find no fault in that. In fact it is a plus in that Legacy doesn't need to add it to its own large code baggage. I see I have Microsoft XPS Document Writer installed in Printers and Faxes. Nothing else. That seems to satisfy Legacy's printer requirement. I've tried to duplicate this no-screen problem, but with no results. I've rebooted Windoz, a warm boot. No luck. Maybe I need to shutdown completely. I'll try that later. Again I say you have a bug. When several of us, who have a printer driver installed, report no screen/printer in Reports and we can only get Reports working again after rebooting Legacy === That is a BUG, not a feature. JimS On 09/10/2012 11:35 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: Legacy requires that at least a printer driver be installed, even if you don't connect to a printer, in order to know how to format the reports. Just pick a standard inkjet printer driver. If you have a printer connected to another computer, use the printer driver option for that printer. It is not a bug - it's a requirement of Legacy. It's very easy to set a default printer driver - your Windows Help screen should give you instructions. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Bottom Line: I have no printers. Whether I have a printer installed or not should not affect viewing reports on screen. But since it does affect screen view, then it is a Legacy bug. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Sherry, I wrote that the bug is not that a printer driver is required. The bug is that we only get the error msg sometimes and even when we already have the driver installed. If we have a driver installed, we should not get an error msg. BUT WE DO SOMETIMES. JimS On 09/13/2012 10:25 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: As I wrote before, it is *not* a bug. There is nothing to fix. What we use to format reports *requires* a printer driver be installed on the computer, even if there is no physical printer, so that the report can be formatted per the printer specs, including paper sizes that the printer will handle. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net wrote: Ron, Yes, Ron, I've found a easy work-around that temporarily fixes this bug. I simply reboot Legacy and the bug goes away. Since this PC is now on 24/7, the bug hasn't returned. I don't expect Legacy to fix this bug in v. 5. And I understand Legacy's need to use Windoz printer driver to display Reports on screen. That is fine with me. My work-around works satisfactorily for me. Problem solved. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Ian, It may not be a printer driver, but Legacy seems to think it is, at least some of the time. And this may be the cause of our intermittent report screen display failures. I probably need a true printer driver to get 100% positive results. But unless I'm completely shutout, I'll make do with what I have. This bug is only a small nuisance at present. JimS === Microsoft XPS Document Writer is NOT a printer driver. That’s your problem, you have no driver installed. Ian J GARDENER Victoria, Australia www.gardener.org.au Researching GARDENER (Aust), McDOUGALL(Aust), McNAIR(Aust), TRAYNOR(Aust), SHANAHAN, OCKWELL(Aust), HADLEY (Eng), TAYLOR (Eng) LONG (Tas, Aust). From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 9:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer Sherry, I'm assume that Legacy is using Windoz Print Preview for the report screen display. And I find no fault in that. In fact it is a plus in that Legacy doesn't need to add it to its own large code baggage. I see I have Microsoft XPS Document Writer installed in Printers and Faxes. Nothing else. That seems to satisfy Legacy's printer requirement. I've tried to duplicate this no-screen problem, but with no results. I've rebooted Windoz, a warm boot. No luck. Maybe I need to shutdown completely. I'll try that later. Again I say you have a bug.  When several of us, who have a printer driver installed, report no screen/printer in Reports and we can only get Reports working again after rebooting Legacy === That is a BUG, not a feature. JimS On 09/10/2012 11:35 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: Legacy requires that at least a printer driver be installed, even if you don't connect to a printer, in order to know how to format the reports. Just pick a standard inkjet printer driver. If you have a printer connected to another computer, use the printer driver option for that printer.  It is not a bug - it's a requirement of Legacy.  It's very easy to set a default printer driver - your Windows Help screen should give you instructions. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote: Bottom Line: I have no printers. Whether I have a printer installed or not should not affect viewing reports on screen. But since it does affect screen view, then it is a Legacy bug. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Lee and Ron, I think all OSs can display to screen without having a printer installed first. If you buy a new pc, doesn't it have the abillity to display images on screen before a printer driver is installed?? Legacy is the first piece of software where I've seen this requirement. Linux is not so different in that respect than Windoz. I've not seen any Linux software requiring printer installation before it would operate. I prefer Linux because then I'm not plagued with attacks as I am in Windoz. I have never used an anti-virus software in Linux and have yet to suffer damage. Be a minute out of date in Windoz and you system is in very real danger. I have suffered when my Windoz update was less than a week late. If email and web-browser is all you want than Linux is far better. But I want Legacy, which does not run directly on Linux, so I need Windoz. BTW I can run my complete Linux system, email, browser, graphics, office, etc. from a DVD or mem. stick. Someday, soon I hope, I'll put XP in my Linux VirtualBox and install Legacy and have it all on a mem. stick. Legacy's website says that it is possible and it would surprize me if no one has done so as yet. As far as not being up to date with Legacy, I see no reason to update. Is the newer version faster, better coded, more compact? I have a 15 yr old house, a 10 yr old car, and a 30 yr marriage. I see no reason to update them either. I can update Linux for free. Try that with Windoz. Bottom line: If it works, don't fix it. JimS = On 09/12/2012 03:57 PM, Lee Bruch wrote: Jim: Am I correct that you dislike windoz and are using linux? Does Legacy work on Linux? How does Linux decide how to create screen images if it doesn't reference to a default printer? -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer Jim, I am right in thinking that you are still using V5. If so do you really expect Legacy to amend such an outdated version? This does not mean I agree with your comments, I don't. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 J Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote: Sherry, I'm assume that Legacy is using Windoz Print Preview for the report screen display. And I find no fault in that. In fact it is a plus in that Legacy doesn't need to add it to its own large code baggage. I see I have Microsoft XPS Document Writer installed in Printers and Faxes. Nothing else. That seems to satisfy Legacy's printer requirement. I've tried to duplicate this no-screen problem, but with no results. I've rebooted Windoz, a warm boot. No luck. Maybe I need to shutdown completely. I'll try that later. Again I say you have a bug. When several of us, who have a printer driver installed, report no screen/printer in Reports and we can only get Reports working again after rebooting Legacy === That is a BUG, not a feature. JimS On 09/10/2012 11:35 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: Legacy requires that at least a printer driver be installed, even if you don't connect to a printer, in order to know how to format the reports. Just pick a standard inkjet printer driver. If you have a printer connected to another computer, use the printer driver option for that printer. It is not a bug - it's a requirement of Legacy. It's very easy to set a default printer driver - your Windows Help screen should give you instructions. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Bottom Line: I have no printers. Whether I have a printer installed or not should not affect viewing reports on screen. But since it does affect screen view, then it is a Legacy bug. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Living or Dead - take 2
Hi again, I'm using version 5 Deluxe. And I still think it is the best of the best. And I've been using genealogy software since Roots II and CP/M in the mid 1980s. But. Here is what is happening with Legacy. 1. Henry Kirk is born in 1917 and I enter him into Legacy. 2. When I save, I'm asked whether he is Living or Dead. There is no ? as there is for sex. I enter Yes. 3. I don't know if he is alive or dead as I just found him on the internet as the son of ... long dead in Denmark. 4. Later I find his confirmation record and I enter that data. 5. Again I'm asked whether he is Living or Dead even thou I have already listed him as living. 6. Later I find Henry has married and when I save his data, again I'm asked whether he is Living or Dead. 7. Every time I open and save Henry's file, I'm asked again, nag, nag, nag, and I don't really know if he is dead or alive. Can I turn this nagger off? On the 6th I asked here Living or Dead, which to use and decided to give the person life. But this has become a nuisance. I've now changed Henry to Dead and the nuisance has gone away. And from now on I'll pronounce all are dead when asked, unless I know otherwise or have turned the nagger off. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Sherry, I'm assume that Legacy is using Windoz Print Preview for the report screen display. And I find no fault in that. In fact it is a plus in that Legacy doesn't need to add it to its own large code baggage. I see I have Microsoft XPS Document Writer installed in Printers and Faxes. Nothing else. That seems to satisfy Legacy's printer requirement. I've tried to duplicate this no-screen problem, but with no results. I've rebooted Windoz, a warm boot. No luck. Maybe I need to shutdown completely. I'll try that later. Again I say you have a bug. When several of us, who have a printer driver installed, report no screen/printer in Reports and we can only get Reports working again after rebooting Legacy === That is a BUG, not a feature. JimS On 09/10/2012 11:35 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: Legacy requires that at least a printer driver be installed, even if you don't connect to a printer, in order to know how to format the reports. Just pick a standard inkjet printer driver. If you have a printer connected to another computer, use the printer driver option for that printer. It is not a bug - it's a requirement of Legacy. It's very easy to set a default printer driver - your Windows Help screen should give you instructions. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net mailto:sindbe...@att.net wrote: Bottom Line: I have no printers. Whether I have a printer installed or not should not affect viewing reports on screen. But since it does affect screen view, then it is a Legacy bug. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Bottom Line: I have no printers. Whether I have a printer installed or not should not affect viewing reports on screen. But since it does affect screen view, then it is a Legacy bug. JimS On 09/09/2012 11:25 PM, Lee Bruch wrote: On your printer choice, select one of your printers as the default printer. It's not a Legacy problem. It's a problem with how your computer is set up. Many programs render reports (even on the screen), etc. based on what works with your default printer. At lease, that's how it works in the PC world ... don't know about the Linux world -Original Message- From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer On 09/09/2012 08:49 PM, Gene Young wrote: On 9/9/2012 8:21 PM, Karen and Jim wrote: Hi Listers, Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes when I start up Legacy I get a msg that I have no printer configured. I say so what? and go on with my business. Later when I want to see a report on screen, Legacy won't let me. Says no printer. Again I say to myself, so what I didn't request a printout, I just wanted to see it on screen. Legacy won't let me!! To correct (temporily) fix this issue I reboot Legacy and usually get no no printer msg and if I want I can see reports on screen. What is going on? Why does Legacy care if I have a printer installed or not. Doesn't seem to be any of Legacy's business, unless I try to print. Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in where it doesn't belong?? No, the program uses the default printers settings to format the report. If you are having the message that you have no printer installed, you should check that there is a DEFAULT printer set. This is not a Legacy problem. Gene, Check what? This is a Legacy problem, since it only happens with Legacy. That pc is a Legacy only pc. I don't use that pc for anything else. This email is on my Linux box. And when I get around to it, I'll install XP in Virtual Box and run Legacy inside it. How I wish Linux had a good genealogy program. Gramps isn't bad, except when it crashes. It is the only Linux program I've ever had crash. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
I did install Legacy on this computer recently. There is no printer installed. This problem in intermittent. The next time, if there is a next time, it appears, I will copy the error msg and submit here. JimS On 09/10/2012 07:43 AM, Jacob Psutka wrote: Jenny, I have other programs on my computer and I have set a default printer. But with each Legacy update, only Legacy cannot find that default printer, my other programs can. So the problem resides within Legacy. The solution is simple - just reboot with the printer on. Jacob On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 10/09/2012 03:37, Karen and Jim wrote: This is a Legacy problem, since it only happens with Legacy. That pc is a Legacy only pc. I don't use that pc for anything else. If you don't use the PC for anything else you don't know it's a Legacy-only problem! If you installed a few more programs you might find you get the same message with all of them. In fact, you almost certainly will if you haven't got a default printer installed. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
On 09/10/2012 07:54 AM, bgsu1...@gmail.com wrote: Karen and Jimsindbe...@att.net proclaimed: This is a Legacy problem, since it only happens with Legacy. Legacy needs to get various settings in order to layout a report for both screen display (print preview) and printing. It looks for an installed printer for these settings. It is a design choice ... not a bug. It probably could have been designed differently, but it wasn't. bgsu, It is a bug because: 1. It does not always happen. It is intermittent. 2. It is a bad design choice in that whether one has a printer or not should not affect screen view. 3. Reboot of Legacy, not the OS, makes the problem go away. JimS Deluxe ver. 5.0.0 261 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Show me your printer
Hi Listers, Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes when I start up Legacy I get a msg that I have no printer configured. I say so what? and go on with my business. Later when I want to see a report on screen, Legacy won't let me. Says no printer. Again I say to myself, so what I didn't request a printout, I just wanted to see it on screen. Legacy won't let me!! To correct (temporily) fix this issue I reboot Legacy and usually get no no printer msg and if I want I can see reports on screen. What is going on? Why does Legacy care if I have a printer installed or not. Doesn't seem to be any of Legacy's business, unless I try to print. Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in where it doesn't belong?? Using deluxe version 5.0.0.261 JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Name List Contains 8311 Individuals - last # is 8310
Hi Listers, Curious. Name List Contains 8311 Individuals but my latest entry is #8310. That doesn't computer for me. Does it for you? I found a blank record that has no number. It is at the beginning, before RIN #1. Not a normal looking zero, not like the other zeros. Looks like an italicized O or 0 Very strange. JimS using version 5 delux. ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer
On 09/09/2012 08:49 PM, Gene Young wrote: On 9/9/2012 8:21 PM, Karen and Jim wrote: Hi Listers, Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes when I start up Legacy I get a msg that I have no printer configured. I say so what? and go on with my business. Later when I want to see a report on screen, Legacy won't let me. Says no printer. Again I say to myself, so what I didn't request a printout, I just wanted to see it on screen. Legacy won't let me!! To correct (temporily) fix this issue I reboot Legacy and usually get no no printer msg and if I want I can see reports on screen. What is going on? Why does Legacy care if I have a printer installed or not. Doesn't seem to be any of Legacy's business, unless I try to print. Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in where it doesn't belong?? No, the program uses the default printers settings to format the report. If you are having the message that you have no printer installed, you should check that there is a DEFAULT printer set. This is not a Legacy problem. Gene, Check what? This is a Legacy problem, since it only happens with Legacy. That pc is a Legacy only pc. I don't use that pc for anything else. This email is on my Linux box. And when I get around to it, I'll install XP in Virtual Box and run Legacy inside it. How I wish Linux had a good genealogy program. Gramps isn't bad, except when it crashes. It is the only Linux program I've ever had crash. JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Living or dead
Hi Listers, I'm in the process of making my tree more bushy. Problem: When asked if a new entree is living or dead, since I don't know which, what should I respond? Entrees are for births around the beginning of the 20th century. Country is Denmark. My general way of doing things is to enter marriages, then births, then confirmations, and finally deaths. I think I should respond living until proven otherwise. What do y'all think? JimS ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Keeping spelling uncorrected
Hi Listers, I've been away from genealogy for 3-4 years and have forgotten how some things are done. I have registered version 5. When I started it up, I found it wasn't as current as my most current gedcom file. This was on a backup PC. An electrical storm had killed my other PC, including its hard drive. What I found when I imported the updated gedcom file was 2 things: 1. When I'm not sure of a place I put a ? in front of the name. I.e., ?Chicago. After the update it is spelled ?chicago. 2. While USA remains USA, DK becomes Dk. Is there an automated way to fix this? If not, is there a way to prevent this? I seem to remember that there is such a way. Thank you, JimS Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
