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Re: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report

2015-05-19 Thread mbstx

Find a copy of Guide to Genealogical Writing by Penelope Stratton and Henry 
Hoff, published by NEHGS in 2014.  On p 20 at the bottom of the page you will 
see a perfect example of what a true ahnentafel report should look like.  The 
Ancestor Report in Legacy is just a reverse Descendant Report, not a true 
ahnentafel which was the request of the person who started this thread.

My main PC is down so I can't include a sample with this email, but somebody at 
Legacy should be able to find this book!

Marianne Szabo

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: May 18, 2015 4:21 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report

I do not see anything on that page which defines a standard. The Article
is about the numbering system and how to convert to and from the number
to determine lineage.
I noted that the first published ahnentafel (1590) is a pedigree style
chart. The example in the article does not quote any standard for its
display method so all it adds is another possible layout of the report.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 18/05/2015 3:28 PM, David Abernathy wrote:
 Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnentafel and have look at the 2 
 standards that have been in use before 1590


 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report

2015-05-19 Thread mbstx

Thx, Brian - I have the book because I'm part of a study group at the Dallas 
Genealogical Society (Dallas, TX).  This year our focus is on writing a family 
history and the book is one of several we are using.  This week we are creating 
genealogy reports using the various software programs that the members of the 
group use.  It was coincidence that an ahnentafel report came up at the same 
time this discussion did.

If anyone is interested, it's a SIG called the Brown Bag Group and information 
on it can be found at the DGS website:

www.dallasgenealogy.org

Marianne Szaabo
DGS Publications Committee

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: May 19, 2015 8:56 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel Report

At last, someone who can quote a source for a report format. I see from
another message that Michele has a copy of the book and can provide a
sample.

Marianne please submit a suggestion quoting that book as the source for
the layout you want. Michele can then provide the programmers with the
info on how the data needs to be organized. A lot of our other reports
are based on NEHGS standards or use NEHGS numbering standards now so
this will simply add to those.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 19/05/2015 8:52 AM, mbstx wrote:
 Find a copy of Guide to Genealogical Writing by Penelope Stratton and 
 Henry Hoff, published by NEHGS in 2014.  On p 20 at the bottom of the page 
 you will see a perfect example of what a true ahnentafel report should look 
 like.  The Ancestor Report in Legacy is just a reverse Descendant Report, 
 not a true ahnentafel which was the request of the person who started this 
 thread.

 My main PC is down so I can't include a sample with this email, but somebody 
 at Legacy should be able to find this book!

 Marianne Szabo







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RE: [LegacyUG] Setting Font Size

2013-12-27 Thread mbstx

Try holding down the CTRL key and hitting the +/- key - that usually works on webpages - I haven't yet tried it on Legacy.-Original Message-
From: Bobby Johnson 
Sent: Dec 27, 2013 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Setting Font Size

I don’t have a mouse wheel, and scroll on the touch pad doesn’t work that way.BobbyFrom: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 5:57 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Setting Font SizeUm - that one doesn't work for meOn 27 December 2013 04:08, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:Awesome Brian! I learned something new about Legacy today rbgAnd I've only been working with the program since it started in 1997and working support since 2002Sincerely,SherryTechnical SupportLegacy Family Tree

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Re: [LegacyUG] Custom Event Sentences in Legacy v8

2013-12-03 Thread mbstx

Hi, John - great explanation! I have a related question. Rather than use custom event sentences in 7.5, when creating an Event, I use the Sentence Overide tab option putting [Notes][Sources] in the text box there. Then I write my own sentence(s) in the text box for the Notes tab - that way the sentence reads exactly as I like.Will I still be able to do that in V8?Marianne-Original Message-
From: "John B. Lisle" 
Sent: Dec 3, 2013 12:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Custom Event Sentences in Legacy v8

Kathy, Kurt, et al,
In part because of Shared Events, a lot of changes were made to Event
Sentences.
Let me walk you through some of the changes.
1/ Option 7.10
With L8, the default sentences no longer have the [Notes] and [Sources]
fields included, UNLESS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THEM... (see
below...)
This option, allows you to set which order in your sentences you want to
arrange those fields.
2/ Creating an event - Note can be included optionally.
When you create an event, you now have an option to not add notes to a
sentence. There is a checkbox at the top, that by default is checked,
that when unchecked, the Notes are not displayed when the sentence is
created.
3/ Editing an event - Add the notes.
When you edit an event, you have a checkbox that allows you for that
instance to not display notes when the Sentence is constructed.
4/ Editing Role Notes - 2 checkboxes
When you edit a role for a Shared event, you can elect to include in the
sentence, either the Main Notes or the Role Notes or both.
Back to Editing an Event Definition...
5/ Note the preview window that should show you what your sentence will
look like. Note you can decide what type of event it will be. 
And note the little blue dot that brings up a file you can edit that
provides text for the various replacement strings, if you feel a personal
need to do that. If you do edit it, please save a copy of your edits, as
this file may sometime in the future get overwritten by a Legacy
update.
6/ Reset Button
This button brings up a menu of 2 choices - 
a. Reset sentences to default
b. Reset sentences to that of another event. This I find exciting as it
allows me to load another event's sentences and then make minor edits -
or no edits - to work for new event.
Let me give an example:
I have customer events for "World War I Draft Registration" and
"World Ward II Draft Registration":
[EventName] for [Name] [onDate]
[~atPlace].[Desc][Sources]:If[Notes]::[CR][Notes]
I set the 8 sentences up for one of the events and just loaded the other
event from the first. With the [Event Name] field, no changes had to be
made at all.
Please note that the Condition _expression_ at the end of the sentence has
a different format in L8. L8's standard is to use  angle
brackets, in place of [] square bracket, to enclose a
conditional.
:If[Notes]::[CR][Notes] is something I use with most of my events
so that, if I want note a line break inserted before the notes begin, it
does not appear if no notes are included with the instance of the
event.
L8 does not convert L7 [] conditionals to L8  conditionals, but
L8 syntax allows for either syntax. I switched mine over as I think the
 is easier to read.
Does this explain better what is going on with basic custom event
sentences and notes.
john.

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Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI Source doesn't appear in Output Tab or Reports

2013-07-27 Thread mbstx

Thanks, Jenny - the box was checked to exclude on the Master Source List - have 
no idea how that happened as I've never even seen that box before.  The box to 
include was already checked on the Details screen, which is why I couldn't 
figure out what was wrong.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Sent: Jul 27, 2013 2:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SSDI Source doesn't appear in Output Tab or Reports

On 27/07/2013 19:23, Marianne Szabo wrote:
 Hi â€“ I just used a saved Master Source for the SSDI that I have used
  many times in the past to add death and birth information to a
 person in my file.

 I filled in all the information in the usual fields, on the Edit the
  Source Detail Screen, saved it to her death date, and then also to
 her birth date.

 However, even though everything is in there when I look to the right
 on the screen where you can see the output, nothing appears on the
 Output tab on the Assigned Sources screen, and the source is missing
 entirely from any reports.

 Iâ€™ve checked it against all the other sources I have (where I chose
 â€œShow Source using Print Optionsâ€) and everything is set up the
 same.

 I then deleted this source entirely from both the death and birth
 event fields, and did the whole process again â€“ same result.

 I ran File/Check/Repair and nothing came up.

 Whatâ€™s happening?

Check the Master Source  edit creen screen to see
if you have accidentally checked the box which excludes the Source from
Reports.  It's bottom left of the screen.

There's a checkbox in almost the same position on the Source Details
screen which has to be checked to *allow* the Citation to appear on Reports.

--
Jenny M Benson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 revealed - Shared Events and Automatic Sorting

2013-07-15 Thread mbstx

When I enter information into the Notes section for a census (using the default 
Census choice from Legacy, not a custom event), I use the Sentence Override 
tab and put [Notes][Sources] there.  Then I just enter the data as I wish.  
Will those notes and sources transfer with the Share option?

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Jul 15, 2013 3:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 revealed - Shared Events and Automatic Sorting

If you have created a custom event in Legacy 7 you will have to add your
own event sentences, roles and the sentences for those roles for your
custom event after your file has been converted by Legacy 8. Legacy 8
will not transfer the event sentences for custom events from Legacy 7
because the sentence structures and rules on what is used have changed
so drastically.

When defining a custom event or role for an event there are options to
populate the sentences with a default set or to copy them from another
event or event role. We do try to make it easy to use the new feature.
In your case you could copy the event sentences from the Legacy Standard
Census events and the role sentences from the census as you add roles to
your custom event.

Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-21 Thread mbstx

This cuts to the heart of the matter, and I agree with the request.

-Original Message-
From: Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz
Sent: Jun 21, 2013 5:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

  This highlights the need to be able to source these two parts of the
fact separately.
Boyd
On 21/06/2013 1:17 p.m., Tony Rolfe wrote:
 Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the
 extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subject.  Just because
 Legacy must create a marriage record whenever a child is added to a
 parent, it doesn't mean that a real-world marriage actually occurred.

 It is frequently easy to tell that a person never married.  It is
 usually impossible to state with any certainty that someone had no children.

 Can we please split the This person never married and had no children
 fact into two separate facts?

 Thanks

 Tony

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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread mbstx

AND in Germany as well in certain areas because only the oldest son inherited, the younger sons couldn't "set up a household" for many years because of financial constraints - having a child out of wedlock in those cases was not condemned, and one can find notes in baptismal records of "illegitimati" who were legitimized years later by a notation of the parents' marriage.-Original Message-
From: Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com
Sent: Jun 18, 2013 3:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

In
 some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man
 and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the
couple had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one)
prior to a decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was
or was not allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to
 occur (either by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both).AND in some areas in the early 1800's it was OK to get a woman pregnant before a marriage to "be sure" she would not be barren especially if there was"farm land" to be inherited. 

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Lee Bruch lbr...@nwlink.com wrote:

It’s not just an issue with 21st century.

In the 17th and 18th century (maybe at other times too) in some areas of what is now called Germany there were various sanctioned traditions of having children outside of marriage. (Some of these were called “farm marriages”).

 In some locations (especially if a proposed marriage involved either a man and woman relocating from a different governing jurisdiction) the couple had to prove they were capable of having a child (by having one) prior to a decision on whether relocation to the other jurisdiction was or was not allowed to occur, and prior to a “marriage” being approved to occur (either by either the church or the civil jurisdictions or both).

From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:24 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

John, etal,

I have seen this discussion several times in the past and presented my thoughts to the compendium. I favor being able to assign the proper titles in the labels in Family View.

I dislike having to make my data 'fit' the software! I also prefer not to put minutiae in my notes for things the program should accommodate.

So, I agree. Relationship window is more correct. Allowing the use of relationship titles, as a marriage option, would enable the user to keep their data as they prefer.

Although I am 'old school' I realize we have moved into the 21st century and need to be able to use today's terminology within Legacy. 

Larry Lee

ldlee.a...@gmail.com

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, John Zimmerman hwedh...@cox.net wrote:

Why not simply rename the "Marriage Indormation Window" to call it the "Relationship Information Window"?John ZimmermanMesa, AZSent from my iPhone 5

On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org wrote:

 Just curious - how is Millennia confusing newbies? Maybe Millennia could take a cue from Heredis and call the term to partner. Of course, this would satisfy some and have others up in arms. The only other option is for those who are not happy with the program to consider writing their own program. Then, they could have the exact terminology they want and not try to force a change for those who are satisfied with the status quo.

 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Fry" emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013/06/18 16:33, Sherry/Support wrote:

 It's incorrect to separate "never married" and "had no children" When a person has a child, a relationship is established with another person - a

 "marriage" is created whether or not the couple was actually married. It takes two to make a child (even if one of them is an anonymous sperm donor!) and both parents need to be shown.

 On the "marriage" screen, you can indicate that the couple never married and set the Status to "Unmarried" or another choice. But there must be a relationship with another person to create a child.

 Therefore it would be incorrect to say "this person never married" if there was a child because a relationship has to be established in Legacy to create that child.

 There is no 100% certain way to know if a person never had any children unless he or she died before puberty I'm sure all of us have at least one "hidden"

 marriage or child that was never acknowledged Ain't English a funny language :-) Methinks it's time for Millennium to sort their terminology out and stop confusing newbies.

 -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread mbstx

I agree - why force calling it a marriage - unless this is something that will never be allowed because of theology, not genealogy on the part of Legacy.-Original Message-
From: Pat Hickin 
Sent: Jun 18, 2013 10:14 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

Sherry,There is a difference between marrying and having a relationship. I am just saying that I may know that the person never married. I don't know whether that person had a relationship. I don't know whether that person had children, and I should not be forced to say so.
I think everyone knows that -- short of divine intervention -- it takes both an egg and a sperm to produce a human child.Also, it seems to me that one ought to be able to say that a woman never married AND that she had a child. (A man, too, for that matter. We all know that wedlock and children do not necessarily go hand in hand. I don't know why Legacy insists on combining them.
PatOn Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
As described to me by the programmer.It's incorrect to separate "never married" and "had no children"
When a person has a child, a relationship is established with another person - a "marriage" is created whether or not the couple was actually married. It takes two to make a child (even if one of them is an anonymous sperm donor!) and both parents need to be shown.

On the "marriage" screen, you can indicate that the couple never married and set the Status to "Unmarried" or another choice.But there must be a relationship with another person to create a child.

Therefore it would be incorrect to say "this person never married" if there was a child because a relationship has to be established in Legacy to create that child.There is no 100% certain way to know if a person never had any children unless he or she died before puberty I'm sure all of us have at least one "hidden" marriage or child that was never acknowledged

Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

I hope that in the new version of Legacy the option "Never married and had no children" will be divided into to options:Never marriedHad no children
With men especially, I have no way of knowing if men who never married also "had no children."Pat

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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread mbstx

This has been requested many times before in the LUG.  Apparently Legacy isn't 
listening.  Why do you think they'd listen for a later version?

-Original Message-
From: Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org
Sent: Jun 18, 2013 8:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

Mary, this is not directed specially at you.  There hasn't been a major 
upgrade to Legacy for 5 years.  Now that we know Legacy 8 is on the horizon, 
folks are coming out of the woodwork with their wants and desires for Legacy 
8.  I truly hope that if Millennia takes any of these wish list items under 
consideration that they are added to a later update.  I would truly hate to 
see any of these wish list items be a cause for delaying the release of Legacy 
8.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

 YES YES YES - and not especially for men!  It's needed for women who never 
 married and had known illegitimate children
 Mary Young

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RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread mbstx

I disagree - in many cases for men there is evidence of no marriage (census records, death certs, etc.), but rarely can you confirm no children. For women, church records can record births, sometimes the father, even if common law, pre-marriage, or illegitimate (I have an ancestor who in mid-1800s Germany had 6 illegitimate children, none with fathers recorded).-Original Message-
From: David Abernathy 
Sent: Jun 18, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

No, we do not need these entries.Yes, as far as we know she was never married, but many were living as “Common Law” marriages. As for NO children, there again we have found not records of having any, but many did and gave the child away at birth.Just make an entry in the Notes, and be done with it.Thanks,David C AbernathyEmail disclaimersThis message represents the official view of the voices in my head.http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com== All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus ==From: Roland Rhoades [mailto:see...@maine.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:22 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8YES, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THAT OPTION.Roland RhoadesMaine Families Genealogistwww.RolandRhoades.comsee...@maine.rr.com2010: 30 Years as a GenealogistFrom: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:09 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8I hope that in the new version of Legacy the option "Never married and had no children" will be divided into to options:Never marriedHad no childrenWith men especially, I have no way of knowing if men who never married also "had no children."PatLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] XP on netbook, WIN 7 on PC - can I transfer dg between them?

2013-05-27 Thread mbstx

My files are also saved to Dropbox, but I don't work in Dropbox on either of them, for fear of messing things up. M-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Williams 
Sent: May 27, 2013 3:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] XP on netbook, WIN 7 on PC - can I transfer dg between them?

Ditto for me Cathy, using Dropbox. Against a highly unlikely
simultaneous failure of my computer and Drobox,Â I still regularly
do back ups to another drive as well. 

Mal
On 28-May-13 4:50 AM, Cathy-0 wrote:

Marianne,
Â
I too have my
desktop running Windows 7 and my netbook running Windows XP.
ÂBut I use Dropbox to sychronize my Legacy database between
the two computers.Â I've had no problems running Legacy on
the two different operating systems.
Â
Cathy-0
Â
Â

From: Marianne Szabo
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  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:27 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] XP on netbook, WIN 7 on PC -
  can I transfer dg between them?

Â
Hi â€“ I got a new PC in January, running
  Windows 7.Â This is my primary place for all things Legacy.
Â
I also have a netbook that I only use when
  I travel.Â The netbook still uses Windows XP.
Â
If I want to upload my Family File from my
  PC to the netbook will there be any problems because the
  operating systems are different?
Â
When I want to do this, I save my PC
  database to a flash drive, then upload that to the netbook, so
  I have the latest information when I travel.
Â
I also use the netbook to add information
  to the database after Iâ€™ve done my research.Â Then I would
  save those changes to the flashdrive and upload the latest
  file to my PC on my return.
Â
So Iâ€™m worried about problems going in both
  directions.
Â
I also have the Families app for my Kindle
  Fire, which is great if all I want to do is see my Family
  File, but itâ€™s too hard to enter data on the Fire.
Â
Marianne

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Re: [LegacyUG] one Question

2013-05-11 Thread mbstx

If you mean gender on the Individual's Information page there are buttons to the right of the box "Title Suf." for M, F, or ? - select the appropriate button. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Paul Schwarz 
Sent: May 11, 2013 4:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] one Question

Hello

How I can change the sex of Johann Josef Galehrss

can someone help me

regards Paul

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RE: [LegacyUG] Tombstones

2013-04-19 Thread mbstx

I found the answer below as well. However, I also turned up women who had MJM on their gravestones through a Google search. Marianne-Original Message-
From: David Abernathy 
Sent: Apr 19, 2013 1:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tombstones

Are they all on a male stone?Married Jewish MaleThanks,David C AbernathyEmail disclaimersThis message represents the official view of the voices in my head.http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com== All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus ==From: Bill LaBarge [mailto:swt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:31 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] TombstonesLee BruchThank you for your response.The MJM were found in a publication of Land Between the Rivers Historical Society, Portage des Sioux, MO. In the Tombstone Inscription section, several of the stones have the letters MJM listed as part of the "other information on stone" data. Also included in the "other information" are the names of spouses or children which would indicate to me that the grave site was used for more than one person. The stone dates are in the 1800's. I have also found several other online Cemetery sites databases that use the MJM letters. The cemetery sites that I have found have all been in Missouri - I don't if the letters is unique to the area or not.Thanks again - Bill LaBargeOn Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Lee Bruch lbr...@nwlink.com wrote:What is the context? (where on the tombstone is it? And what is the approximate date of the tombstone? And where is the tombstone? Or is it in a database about tombstones?)My first impression would be it’s a roman numeral, but there is no “J” in standard roman numerals. Could the “J” actually be a fancy “I” - If an “I”, then the date would be 1999.Alternatively, if small and located inconspicuously it could be a mark of the tombstone maker.If you are finding it in the comment section of a database (such as find-a-grave), it could be the initials of the commenterFrom: Bill LaBarge [mailto:swt...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:08 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: [LegacyUG] TombstonesDoes anyone know what the letters ":MJM" mean on a tombstone?BillLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sentence definition-editing

2013-04-10 Thread mbstx

I do something I think is much simpler.  On the Edit Event for dialog box, in 
the lower half I click on the Sentence Overide tab.

In that box I put {Notes][Sources].

Then when I go back to the Notes tab I can enter a sentence or several 
paragraphs in any way I wish.

Another LUGer suggested this some years ago and I've followed it ever since.

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Sent: Apr 10, 2013 4:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sentence definition-editing

On 09/04/2013 19:19, John Gregson wrote:
 I tried to figure out how to use the Edit Event Sentence Definition,
 but it is too
 complex for me.

It really isn't too difficult to edit a Sentence Definition.

There are 2 elements to a Sentence:  words that will never change (be
the same for every record) and words that will vary with each record.
For example, you could compose a Census Event sentence which will read:

He appeared on the England census on 30 March 1851 in Canterbury, Kent,
England.

for Joe Bloggs, or

She appeared on the Wales census on 07 April 1861 in Mold, Fintshire, Wales.

for Jane Doe.

If you looked at the Event Sentence which would create the above, you
would see:

[HeShe] appeared on the [Desc] census [onDate] [inPlace].

You will notice that all the words which vary from one record to the
next are enclosed in brackets.  When you are in the Edit Event
Definition screen, you can select from all the options available for
what you want to appear in the brackets.  Next to each option is a brief
explanation of what it will add to the Sentence.

To start building an Event Sentence that reads how you want it to,
choose one person in your family file and write down the Sentence as you
would like it to appear for him.  Now underline all the words which
might be different if you were writing the Sentence for a different
person - these will be names, dates, places, pronouns (he/she) etc.  Now
you will be ready to start building your Sentence in Legacy, selecting
the appropriate option for each underlined word.

If you get stuck, come back to LUG with an example of an Event Sentence
you want to create.

--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sentence definition-editing

2013-04-10 Thread mbstx

Thanks for the suggestion!

However, I don't always enter my own phrasing; for collateral relatives in many 
cases the default phrasing is fine because I don't intend to include them in 
any written/published document - they're just there for research purposes.

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Sent: Apr 10, 2013 9:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sentence definition-editing

On 10/04/2013 15:04, mbstx wrote:
 I do something I think is much simpler.  On the Edit Event for dialog
 box, in the lower half I click on the Sentence Overide tab.

 In that box I put {Notes][Sources].

 Then when I go back to the Notes tab I can enter a sentence or
 several paragraphs in any way I wish.

Yes, that is a simple way, but if you edit the original Sentence in the
Master List it would save you having to open the Sentence Override tab
and type [Notes][Sources] every time.  You simply put [Notes][Sources]
in the bottom field (labelled If Desc,  Date and Place are empty.)  I
have done this for a couple of Event Sentences, except that I preface
[Notes][Sources] with a bolded [EventName]: because that is how I like
my Events/Facts to start.
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Families 1.7.1 still not available on Amazon?

2013-01-20 Thread mbstx

Thanks for the update, Judith. I haven't had time to check for the Families app since my original message. When I checked my Fire today, it had automatically updated. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Judith 
Sent: Jan 19, 2013 11:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Families 1.7.1 still not available on Amazon?

Update on Families App: I purchased mine from Amazon.com, and it didn’t update automatically. I went to the Amazon App on my tablet, searched for Families and was able to easily do an update.Judith Subject: [LegacyUG] Families 1.7.1 still not available on Amazon?I’ve downloaded 1.7.1 to my PC, but my Kindle Fire still shows Families v. 1.7.0, and when I go to Amazon.com, that version is still the one that’s showing for purchase.“Families” has not automatically updated on my Kindle Fire, nor are any updates shown as available.Is Amazon just slow, or is this a glitch?Syncing still works fine.Marianne

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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line in bold

2012-12-14 Thread mbstx

Exactly where should the BOLD show up?  I've just done what you described below.

The relationships show up properly, I've gone to Options/Customize where there 
are further instructions about setting direct line in bold, but the only report 
that shows my line in bold is the Ancestor report.

The family screen doesn't have any names in bold that I can see.  I have no 
descendants so that doesn't apply.

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Dec 14, 2012 12:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line in bold

After doing Tools  Set Relationships do Tools  Set Direct Line As
Preferred  again.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 I have 2 Legacy files, mine and my husband's. The bolding works fine on
 mine, but on his, it quits at the 5th generation. I've done Set
 Relationships over  over, even cleared them once and re-did his just like
 mine, and it won't go back any further.

 --

 Marilyn
 Legacy7 Deluxe v. 7.5.0.191 build date 2 May 2012
 Vista Home Premium x64 bit

 
 From: unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line in bold


 I have one line that goes back 13 generations and the direct line is still
 bolded and the relationships still show.

 Maybe go back and reset them again but highlighting yourself, clicking on
 Tools, then Set Relationships, then Set Relationships again.

 Monique




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Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line in bold

2012-12-14 Thread mbstx

AHA! found it.  M
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From: bgsu1...@gmail.com
Sent: Dec 14, 2012 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Direct Line in bold

mbstx msz...@mindspring.com proclaimed:

Exactly where should the BOLD show up?

Look at the children on the Family tab.

--

bgsu

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Re: [LegacyUG] Kindle Fire 7

2012-12-10 Thread mbstx

I have the original Kindle Fire (rec'd as Xmas gift last year) and it works 
great with Families App.  I find that synching via WiFi is easier than 
connecting to my PC.  TelGen has instructions on their website.

Note that the $159 price below includes Special Offers that display on the 
device.  I have the one without, which was a bit pricier, I think (gift, so I'm 
not sure).  Marianne

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Sent: Dec 10, 2012 12:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Kindle Fire 7 -- use Families app?

Anyone using the Kindle Fire 7 (older version, $159 on Amazon) with
the Families app? Your opinion? Thanks. Dee in Maryland




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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 8 and Legacy

2012-10-24 Thread mbstx

Some of us will be forced into Windows 8 - my computer is dying and I believe 
all new PCs have Windows 8 on them

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Oct 24, 2012 11:16 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 8 and Legacy

 From what I have read there are going to be two different Windows 8,
one will be for PC's and the other for tablets (there are different
processor chips involved). I have not read anything that makes me think
that applications which will work on the PC version will also work on
tablets.

I do not plan on changing to Windows 8 on my PC, do not own any tablet
and have no plans to acquire one.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 24/10/2012 12:04, Paul Gray wrote:
 Does anyone know if Legacy will run on Windows 8?

 If I understand the hype regarding Windows 8 it is an OS common to all of
 the PC, tablet, and smartphone environments. If that is so, would we be able
 to run Legacy directly on a tablet or smartphone? (understandng that only a
 Windows 8 tablet or smartphone, not existing Apple or Android devices would
 be potential candidates).

 Paul Gray

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Re: [LegacyUG] No Death notes sources

2012-09-10 Thread mbstx

I agree with Paula. I want the sources I attach to Death Notes to apply there, not elsewhere. Why should I have to create an Alt. Death Event for a piece of information that already has a defined place in the fields? Does this also happen when I attach a source to notes in the Medical tab (eg relating to Cause of Death) in the General/Research/Medical option for notes? I haven't had time to check that out, plus I'm not a power user of Legacy, so it's sometimes hard for me to figure out these detailed discrepancies. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Paula Ryburn 
Sent: Sep 10, 2012 11:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No Death notes sources

Setting aside the particular information Pat is entering in Death Notes (because I use Alt. Death events, too)...It bothers me, too, that the citation number for Death Notes does not print by the Death Notes in the FGR. You have to know to go back to the first page and look at the Death date and place citations. Further, within the citation itself (?) you have to indicate which piece of evidence about the death came from that source...? Is that how others do it?This is akin to multiple sources for bits entered in General Notes or Research Notes, but with the added complexity of the Death information not all being printed together on the FGR.--Paula in TexasResearching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson
 Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller WilliamsFrom: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.comTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSent: Fri, September 7, 2012 7:46:29 PMSubject: [LegacyUG] No Death notes sources
Although there is a Death Notes box available and one can enter sources for the information you put there, when you click on the book icon (to get to the "Assigned Sources" window, there is no "Death Notes" entry. 
The source you entered for "Death Notes" instead shows up under the "Death" sources. When you print an individual or other report, the "Death Notes" entry has no accompanying source citation.
So let's say I enter a death date as 1801 (as the most reliable) and give Source A. Then in the "Death notes" I say that other, less reliable, sources give a date of 1803 or 1805, and cite Sources B and C. 
But when I print the report, it looks as though Sources A,B,and C agree on the 1801 date,and the less reliable sources I've mentioned go unidentified!What is the reason for not having separate sources for "Death Notes"?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Date question --

2012-08-26 Thread mbstx

Gmail is notorious not only for putting things in your spam folder, but also 
for blocking messages entirely without telling you it has done so.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com
Sent: Aug 26, 2012 4:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date question --

On 2012/08/26 20:28, Virginia Dunham wrote:

 Mike...this may be why you find yourself being Un-registered every
 once in awhile...have you had any problems with your gmail account?

Nope! I've only been using the gmail account with this group since 23rd August.
In any event, to be unregistered, someone has to have visited the web site and
unsubscribed using my address.

Suggestion to support: Send a confirming email when an address has been
unsubbed. At least then I'd know.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)

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Re: [LegacyUG] FT Worth Legacy group

2012-08-19 Thread mbstx

The Tarrant County group meets in Arlington. That's midway between Ft Worth and 
Dallas.  Ft Worth is in Tarrant Cty.
-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Aug 19, 2012 5:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FT Worth Legacy group

You can find a list of user groups here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/UsersGroups.asp
There are two in Texas but neither mentions Ft. Worth.

Brian
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On 19/08/2012 18:22, Lucie Vaccaro Bailey wrote:
 Is there a Ft worth, Tx Legacy group If so where  when do they meet.
 Lu Vaccaro-Bailey

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Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message

2012-08-17 Thread mbstx

I have the information entered correctly, with the "city" of "Wythe Magisterial District" (again, per the census page) and the comma in the correct place. I still got the error message even tho it was entered correctly. MY question was why that error popped up, the Elizabeth City is in the County Verfiier list. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support <she...@legacyfamilytree.com>
Sent: Aug 17, 2012 4:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message

Elizabeth City, VA shows in the USA County Verifier as being in existance between 1634 and 1952.Make sure you have the location entered correctly ascity, Elizabeth City, Virginia

Or a comma in place of the "city" if you don't know the city.It was merged into the city of Hampton in 1952.There's no reference to it being renamed to Northampton in 1642.

Accawmack was renamed "Northampton" in 1642.Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM, mbstx msz...@mindspring.com wrote:

Today I was entering information for a family member who was at Langley AFB in Virginia in 1940. The image clearly shows "Elizabeth City" as the County name. When I entered "Elizabeth City" in the County field in Source Writer I got an error message that there was no such county in 1940.

BUT the county verifier clearly shows "Elizabeth City" as a County in VA from 1634 to 1952! Parent county: original shire; no progeny counties; name changed to Northampton 1642.

So which is it???

Wikipedia says it was still a county under the name Elizabeth City in 1952.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_City_County,_Virginia

Marianne

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RE: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message

2012-08-17 Thread mbstx

Langley AFB in in Hampton now.  I entered exactly what was on the 1940 census 
page:

Wythe Magisterial District, Elizabeth City, Virginia, United States

I got the error message that Elizabeth City was not a county in 1940 in 
Virginia, please check County Verifier.  When I opened the County Verifier, 
there was Elizabeth City in the County column, with dates of 1634 to 1952.  So 
the error message was incorrect.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net
Sent: Aug 17, 2012 3:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message

I am not exactly sure, but the City of Hampton was incorporated as an 
Independent City in 1908. Elizabeth City County still existed but more toward 
Newport News which became part of Elizabeth City in 1928. Langley Air Force 
Base is within the boundaries of the City of Hampton (Independent City). The 
two cities are adjacent to each other. Please verify this.

Charles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names

2012-08-13 Thread mbstx

Re Jordan Marinus - if Marinus is not a family surname, the us ending on 
Marinus might indicate this person is male, as in Latin gender is distinguished 
by nouns (including names) that end in us (male), or a (female), e.g. 
Julius (male) vs Julia (female), or alumnus (male) vs alumna (female).  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Charani charan...@gmail.com
Sent: Aug 13, 2012 9:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ambiguous/Unisex Names

I have several children who have been given names that are not
obviously male or female or could be either.  Asking the parents isn't
possible.  They are all North American and born in the late 1980s.

No surnames given.

Devin Spencer (b Michigan)
Heber Brynn (b British Columbia)
Jessen Shay (b Alberta)
Jordan Marinus (b Michigan)

I would appreciate possible enlightenment please :))

--
Charani (UK)
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Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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Re: [LegacyUG] County List

2012-08-10 Thread mbstx

How did you get the County list?  I haven't been able to access it since I 
upgraded to Legacy 7.5.0.191.  I know it's not the latest version.  I didn't 
like all the message about problems with the latest version. marianne

-Original Message-
From: SHIRLEY ANDERSON yor...@prodigy.net
Sent: Aug 10, 2012 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] County List

I just got a message telling me that there never was a county in New Mexico
called Doña Ana County.  When I checked the county list, the county is called
Dona Ana.

Wikipedia calls it Doña Ana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do%C3%B1a_Ana_County,_New_Mexico

How do I add the alternate spelling to the county list?

 ~~
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~~
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families 1.5.0 upgrade - can't find in Amazon App store

2012-07-19 Thread mbstx

Thanks, Sherry - I was able to confirm the auto update of the app to V1.6.0, to 
download V1.4.5.0 of Families Sync, and to successfully sync my Legacy file to 
my Kindle Fire.

I just needed to be pointed in the right direction, after I lost my notes (map 
g) as to how to do these things.

Last question - you say below you received an email to update Families Sync.  
I've never gotten an email like that, what am I missing? (sorry if this last 
question is off-topic).

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Jul 18, 2012 11:40 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families 1.5.0 upgrade - can't find in Amazon App store

Marianne,

I just recently received an email to update Families Sync to v1.4.5.0,
which I did, but the app itself on your Kindle Fire should update
automatically.

I just double checked the app and it shows v1.6.0, which is the latest
build of the app itself. So it updated automatically.

You can get the latest Families Sync at
http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/download/publish.htm

(On the Families webpage http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/, there's a
small link at the bottom on the left, just above the Legacy icon, that
says Download Families Sync

In the Kindle Fire, to check for app updates, tap on Apps  Store,
then the menu button and App Updates.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Marianne Szabo msz...@mindspring.com wrote:
 Hi – I wanted to update my Families app on my Kindle Fire today (V1.5.0 was
 announced 23 Mar 2012 by Malcolm Green – I’m way behind on doing this), but
 I can’t find it in the Amazon App Store.

 Can someone help me?  I have instructions on how to download from Amazon to
 my Fire, but not for any other source.

 After I download the updated version I also will be syncing my Legacy
 database to my Fire. I think I can find the instructions for that in the LUG
 Archives, but if someone could point me in the right direction, I would
 appreciate it.

 Marianne



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RE: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel - slightly off topic

2012-07-05 Thread mbstx

Not sure if I'm off topic or not, as this references Rootsweb pages on Ancestry, but Sherry has suggested Richard submit this as an enhancement to Legacy. This table sounds as though it would be useful, but I can't find it on the Rootsweb pages. Would you be able to point me at it? Marianne-Original Message-
From: Richard and Evita Piepho 
Sent: Jul 4, 2012 7:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ahnentafel

Sherry..maybe I used the wrong word... looking for a Ahnentafel Table with 2 columns one for the Paternal line and the other for the Maternal line with the Ahnentafel numbering system with a divisional name of Parents 2  3 then Grandparents 4  5 in one column and 6  7 in the other column. a very useful over view at the beginning of each family listing. I love Legacy, but that Table would be most helpful. Emily Anne Croom in her book Unpuzzling Your Past has a good example -- also check ancestry.com on their rootsweb freepages it shows the table that would be helpful for a quick overview of ancestors. thank you much Richard From: she...@legacyfamilytree.comDate: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0700Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AhnentafelTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comTake a look at the chart on the Ancestor tab in Reports. That's basic names, dates and locations.What you're referring to is the book report, which is much larger.

Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree 
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Richard and Evita Piepho erpie...@hotmail.com wrote:

Ok I see what you meanI can use it but will have to manually make my own chart... it will help...take the name index as hard copy; write in the Ahnentafel number; and then make my chart; etc I wanted to get away from make 29 pages when a chart would do for 3 or 4 pages ...when I send to my brother just that part of the report is 27 pages and my son-in-law it is 29 pages and that is without the notes; and with notes it runs over 100 pages for both. It would be nice if you created in the reports, Charts. Thank you 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals

2012-05-26 Thread mbstx

I agree on the need for this type of chart. I have individuals who in their second marriage wed an individual who in their first marriage wed someone else from the same tree.Example: Regina Booms marries first Christian Hafenskeidt, marries second Henry Bruening. Henry's first wife was Christina Booms Siemen. Regina's father, Franz Booms, was the younger brother of Christina Booms Siemen. When Regina and Henry marry, their two ascendant lines both lead to common grandparents or grandparents-in-law. There is no way in Legacy charting to show this relationship - you must create two charts and compare them to be able to see this double relationship.Marianne-Original Message-
From: Terry Foxcroft 
Sent: May 26, 2012 9:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals

This is a function done byGenerations (now dead), Family Historian, Reunion and maybe one or two other products.To me, this is the one major feature missing from Legacy.An all blood relations chart is the ideal thing for a reunion.Put it on your new features listLegacy!Terry FoxcroftDate: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:08:46 -0700From: fourpa...@verizon.netSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All IndividualsTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comYou may need to take paper and pencil, and also print a list of all names to include, or other organizing tasks. Then, you must get everyone on the virtual page, no matter how awful looking,at first.Finally edit/move to fit better. Most important is the list to check off who made it. This is an artistic endevour, not a report.Good luck.   From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All Individuals   
From: Colin GriffithSent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:57 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Chart of All IndividualsHi,I have Legacy 7.5 Deluxe which includes the Legacy Charting Deluxe software.I am trying to create a chart that will include all individuals from my fileto get a complete wall chart representation. Can anyone assist or suggest away of achieving this? Similar to a multiple lines of descent book.I seem to be limited to producing multiple Descendant charts for individualswhich result in duplication once a certain generation is reached.Alternatively an Ascendant chart (even with siblings) does not produce thehierarchy upwards from the siblings.Any assistance greatly
 appreciated.Thanks,Colin.Colin,Legacy has never had the facility to create "All in one Charts", and thebest that can be done is the "Lines of Multiple Descent".Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions

2012-04-29 Thread mbstx

This was discussed in a previous thread "1940 Census NARA Roll #".-Original Message-
From: Paula Ryburn 
Sent: Apr 29, 2012 1:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 1940 census template questions

My question might be slightly off-topic, but here goes...I found my mom in the 1940 census earlier this month and am just now sitting down to enter the event/cite the source.The SW template detail asks for the Roll and the Page. I did not see along my "route" to pulling up the image on Ancestry (select state, county, city, ED) where the Roll or Page are indicated. Is this just a function of the images not yet having been indexed? Or did I miss something?Further, there is a "grayed out" description for what should be entered in the Page number field, but it is cut off... and of course if I click on the field, the description disappears entirely. These detailed
 descriptions are not included in the Help (at least the one that pops up when I click Help in that window). What I could see hinted at a number having been stamped on the page??If you have entered 1940 census data, how did you obtain the Roll #? And is there really a Page # ? I do have the Sheet #... and that is unique within the ED (at least for Chicago). So where were page #'s assigned and why? (Should I be using the page # that shows up in the top of the ancestry viewer??)Thanks in advance,--Paula in TexasResearching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan
 Weller Williams

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Re: [LegacyUG] Does the size of screen annoy you while using Families for Legacy app?

2012-04-12 Thread mbstx

I rarely enter data in the field on my Kindle Fire, but it is absolutely great 
to have with me at my local libraries/archives and when I travel.  I find the 
size of the Fire screen more than adequate for reading.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Apr 12, 2012 10:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Does the size of screen annoy you while using Families 
for Legacy app?

The screen size on my Kindle Fire is very adequate.  My phone is
another issue, but since my Kindle Fire is always by my side   I
only use the phone for apps if I need internet connection and wi-fi
for the Kindle isn't available.

When I plan a research trip, I take my 13 laptop so I can enter right
into Legacy and it's much more convenient to type on.  The onscreen
keyboard on mobile devices is really slow to use if you're a touch
typist, although I'm getting faster if I have the Kindle Fire situated
so I can type with two fingers instead of one.

Having a smaller laptop for the field is nice and I definitely don't
feel as if I'm lugging it around.

But the app on Kindle Fire is great for those unexpected research moments.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:19 AM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I'm so glad I attended yesterday's seminar on the Families app for Legacy. I
 can hardly wait to get it, but first I need the hardware. I have been one of
 the holdouts--I don't have a smartphone or tablet or anything mobile like
 that. Have been thinking that it's time and so Im ready to jump in!

 My question to you Families app users: do you find it a hindrance while
 you're out in the field doing some research looking at a smaller screen of
 your Legacy file (in comparison to lugging a laptop around)? I'm considering
 the 7- or 10-inch tablet as I don't think I could maneuver on such a small
 screen as a smartphone.

 Your comments are appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Julia

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RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

2012-04-10 Thread mbstx

Which build? I updated last night and it still was incorrect. I'm on 7.5.0.182. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis <ancestor...@gmail.com>
Sent: Apr 9, 2012 8:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

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<zzz![endif]-->It has already been fixed. I uploaded the new build earlier today.micheleFrom: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:42 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 templateWill it be announced when it's fixed? I don't want to start entering data and then have to go back and find all those entries to fix with the proper information. Marianne-Original Message- From: Geoff Rasmussen Sent: Apr 6, 2012 12:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 template Dave's working on this fix right now. Sorry for the confusion here.Thanks,Geoff RasmussenMillennia Corporationge...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.LegacyFamilyTree.comOn Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote:I am entering my first 1940 census into Legacy. I am using the 1940 template. It asked for dwelling and family number but there is only a blank for dwelling number on the census sheet itself.LINESTREET ADDRESSHOUSE NUMBERNUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDHOME OWNED OR RENTED (and so on)There is no family # I don’t want to put [blank] in that space if y’all are going to update the template then all my entries will be wrong.micheleLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

2012-04-09 Thread mbstx

Will it be announced when it's fixed? I don't want to start entering data and then have to go back and find all those entries to fix with the proper information. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Geoff Rasmussen 
Sent: Apr 6, 2012 12:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 template

Dave's working on this fix right now. Sorry for the confusion here.Thanks,Geoff RasmussenMillennia Corporationge...@legacyfamilytree.com

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote:

I am entering my first 1940 census into Legacy. I am using the 1940 template. It asked for dwelling and family number but there is only a blank for dwelling number on the census sheet itself.

LINE

STREET ADDRESSHOUSE NUMBER

NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDHOME OWNED OR RENTED (and so on)

There is no family # I don’t want to put [blank] in that space if y’all are going to update the template then all my entries will be wrong.

michele

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Re: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.

2012-03-23 Thread mbstx

Is this an upgrade that I can now download, or a whole new purchase?-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Green 
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 5:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.

Families 1.5.0 for Android is now available. This version contains the following changes:- Improve efficiency of relationship calculation- redesign search options and add search by location- support tags for individual and marriage- add settings option for maximum descendant generations- allow selection of alternative parents in Pedigree View- bug fixesThe new version is available in Android Market, SlideME and will be available in the Amazon Appstore within a day or two.NEW!! Families is now also available in the NOOK Store.Malcolm Green
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RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

2012-03-23 Thread mbstx

Yes, it's the left pane I'm talking about.  There is a possible match in the 
right pane that has no children information.  My concern is that if the person 
who entered the info in the right pane looks for a match he/she will see the 
living people in what's my left pane.  Is that possible?  M

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 12:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

If I am understanding you correctly, you are seeing the living people over in 
the right pane (the box that shows what is actually up on FamilySearch)?

I tried this with my own file.  I always suppress living on my filter.  I 
selected my grandfather.  He still has 3 children living.  On the right pane I 
see all three of those living children.  I never added them).  So I went to 
New FamilySearch and to see.  Someone (not me) had added my three uncles that 
are still living and that is why they are showing up.  Other than sending an 
email to the person who submitted the info and ask them to remove it, there 
isn't much you can do.

OR are you talking about the LEFT pane, which shows what is on your computer 
The living children DO show up here but you know they are living so don't add 
them to nFS.  Maybe that is what you are talking about?  No, it apparently 
does not suppress the living children of the dead ancestor.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Marianne Szabo [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the filters, I 
selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons in the list.  
BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all of her children 
displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I prevent this 
information from displaying?

Marianne

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Re: [LegacyUG] citing World War I draft registration cards

2012-03-21 Thread mbstx

Am I missing something? When I type in "598" I get the choice of three templates, but none of them actually assist in the wording below, or even truly match the fields to what EE says to use. You still have to enter the citation information details on your own, which means you have to be very careful to match the wording you've used previously. I find myself pulling out EE every time I have to source a WWI draft registration. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof 
Sent: Mar 20, 2012 4:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] citing World War I draft registration cards

Using SourceWriter when adding a new source, in the 'What kind of
source do you want to site? :', type 598 for the templates on page
598

Hope this is what you are after.

Tim Rosenlof

On 3/20/2012 3:14 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:

I
am looking at the ESM way to cite a World War I draft
registration card.Â There is no template for this so what
ends up happening is that you have to type A LOT of info in
the details making it very hard to keep the citations
consistent.Â Here is how it is supposed to look, this is
from page 598 of Evidence Explained by ESM.
Â
â€œWorld
War I Draft Registration Cards,1917-1918,â€ digital images, Ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com
: accessed 1 February 2007), Christopher Ferraci, serial no.
1251, order no. 367, Draft Board 7, Rochester, Monroe
County, New York; citing World War I Selective Service
  Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918, NARA microfilm
publication M1509; no specific roll cited.
Â
That
is a lot of info to type out in the detail section of you
are using the database template.Â Is there a better way to
do this?Â I am going to make a suggestion for a template.
Â
michele

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Re: [LegacyUG] citing World War I draft registration cards

2012-03-21 Thread mbstx

My understanding is that there are a limited number of citations that can be saved to the source clipboard. Therefore (a) the saved citation would eventually go away, and (b) I then have to find an ancestor with the "perfect" citation to copy. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it. M-Original Message-
From: Paula Ryburn 
Sent: Mar 21, 2012 11:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] citing World War I draft registration cards

At least for now, could you Save the "perfected" citation as a source clipboard? Then when you have another WWI draft registration to cite, you could Load that one and replace the name and various numbers in the same place in that "Item of Interest" field? As well as if you used the Text or Comment fields to help perfect the citation... or even the over-rides... aren't those saved in the Source Clipboard, too? OR if you use this method, maybe make a citation that has a more generic "[NAME], [CARD NO.], [DATE SIGNED]..." in the "Item of Interest" field, and Save THAT one. Ditto on the Text or Comment or Over-ride boxes. Then Load it as you need to make a new citation.--PaulaFrom: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.comTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSent: Wed, March 21, 2012 11:23:46 AMSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] citing World War I draft registration cards
YES, Marianne! That is my point. I wish the template had all the mandatory stuff in the source part of the citation so that the detail would be easy.MicheleAm I missing something? When I type in "598" I get the choice of three templates, but none of them actually assist in the wording below, or even truly match the fields to what EE says to use. You still have to enter the citation information details on your own, which means you have to be very careful to match the wording you've used previously. I find myself pulling out EE every time I have to source a WWI draft registration. Marianne

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with using Master Location List

2012-03-19 Thread mbstx

Google Chrome, however, is a web browser.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com
Sent: Mar 18, 2012 7:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with using Master Location List

On 3/18/2012 7:18 PM, David wrote:
 1) I chose Google as the Legacy Alternate Web Browser(using the Options
 Customize  Alternate applications screen).

 2) I then tried to Geocode my Master Location List and found to my
 amazement that Legacy ignores their customize screen and instead uses
 Microsoft Bing as the Web Browser.

 Anyone else notice this problem?  It is reproducible.

 David

Google is not a Browser.  It is a website.

--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox  Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
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RE: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English characters

2012-03-12 Thread mbstx

A better question is when/if Legacy will add these sets. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis 
Sent: Mar 12, 2012 8:13 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English characters

Good grief! I am nowhere near computer savvy enough to do all of that! I think I will just wait until Legacy adds the alphabet set!micheleFrom: John Magyari [mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:55 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English charactersAfter reading Michele's comment about Polish Characters I tried the following:In Legacy I tried to use Ukrainian, Polish and Slovak letters and I could figure out how to enter them.I exported a UTF-8 Gedcom 5.5.1 file with 4 people in Legacy an English person whose father was Ukrainian whose father was Polish whose father was Slovak used all english characters for names..I then edited created Gedcom file with notepad and added Cyrillic, Polish and Slovak characters to the appropriate person's name.I then imported into Genbox, FTM2012 both imported gedcom no errors and were able to create charts with all characters.I then imported into Legacy did not see any error messages,Â non-English characters were not displayed correctly.Names stored in fdb tables IR, MR, NR and NX appeared as they do in Legacy but not like they do in the Gedcom,Legacy export mentions UTF-8 and Ansel which both should support Polish, Slovak and Ukrainian (Cyrillic) characters.Here's the gedcom0 HEAD1 SOUR Legacy2 VERS 7.52 NAME Legacy (R)2 CORP Millennia Corp.3 ADDR PO Box 94104 CONT Surprise, AZ 853741 DEST Gedcom5.5.11 DATE 12 Mar 20121 SUBM @S0@1 FILE R:\Program Files\Legacy\Data\UTF8.ged1 GEDC2 VERS 5.5.12 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED1 CHAR UTF-80 @S0@ SUBM1 NAME John Magyari0 @I1@ INDI1 NAME English /E2/2 GIVN English2 SURN E21 SEX M1 _UID D2E6041F943745EFA4B75A476B01DDE302B71 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:031 FAMC @F3@0 @I2@ INDI1 NAME Ukrainian /U2Ð»Ð´Ð¶Ñ”/2 GIVN Ukrainian2 SURN U2Ð»Ð´Ð¶Ñ”1 SEX M1 _UID E4BF8AAB39B34493BAC6D52004B69B056A211 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:031 FAMS @F3@1 FAMC @F1@0 @I3@ INDI1 NAME Polish /P2Å¼Å›Å‚Ä…/2 GIVN Polish2 SURN P2Å¼Å›Å‚Ä…1 SEX M1 _UID 69BD6EF9F49C4624BCE63281EAA9DF4896F41 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:031 FAMS @F1@1 FAMC @F2@0 @I4@ INDI1 NAME Slovak /S2Ã´ÃºÃ¤Åˆ/2 GIVN Slovak2 SURN S2Ã´ÃºÃ¤Åˆ1 SEX M1 _UID CF781FD94CA144F6B6496BDE23C5458C67F01 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:031 FAMS @F2@0 @F1@ FAM1 HUSB @I3@1 MARR1 CHIL @I2@1 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:030 @F2@ FAM1 HUSB @I4@1 MARR1 CHIL @I3@1 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:030 @F3@ FAM1 HUSB @I2@1 MARR1 CHIL @I1@1 CHAN2 DATE 12 Mar 20123 TIME 05:030 TRLROn 3/11/2012 5:19 AM, Michele Lewis wrote: Speaking of Polish locationsâ€¦Â Be aware that Legacy does not include the needed alphabet set to be able to write the Polish characters.ÂMicheleÂFrom: John Magyari [mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 FieldsÂThanks for everyone's ideas.Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positionsI decided to force all 5 location positions into 4.Ã‚Â Having same number of fields helps with sorting.Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX.Ã‚Â Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null.ie. MaxPositions = 5,Ã‚Â LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAXie For Me for Polandcity, administration, county, state, country (1,2,3,4,5)If less fields entered enter Nullscity, county, state, country (Null 1 field - admin)city, state, country (Null other 2 fields -admin, county)city, state (Null other 3 fields)state (Null other 4 fields)I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with fewer positions to 4 position system.johnOn 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: John,Ã‚ÂBy all means use the American four field standard for American locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally the way in which they are written.Ã‚ÂRon Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/Ã‚ÂÃ‚ÂFrom: John Magyari Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 FieldsÃ‚ÂTypically for US locations i have 4 FIELDSCity, County, State, CountryHow do others handle European Countries?For example I have a village in Poland Area1900's part of Austria HungaryVillage, District, Province, Country 4 FIELDSLipowiec, Sanok District, Galicia Province, Austria-HungarySame place in 1940's 4 FIELDSLipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, PolandAlmost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *5 FIELDSCity, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRYLipowiec, Dukla Gmina, Krosno

RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed

2012-03-12 Thread mbstx

Being grateful to the LDS for their records is one thing. For Legacy to actually change a user's record without their consent is quite another. BTW, I actually do use the full United States in my records - that is a choice I made. If Legacy next decides it should be United States of America (to distinguish from the United States of Mexico, which is the correct name for our friends to the south) I would be as upset as other on this forum are at the present situation. Marianne-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis 
Sent: Mar 12, 2012 3:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changed

I have been watching this conversation in bewilderment. I have put USA and I have put United States. Not once has Legacy changed what I have entered (except when I used the expand/contract feature). I now have all my locations with United States to conform to the LDS standard. Just for the records, I am not LDS but I am very grateful to the LDS church for everything they have done to preserve records through microfilming. They are the experts when it comes to genealogy research so I do respect their opinion on what the standard should be. micheleFrom: Larry McCumber [mailto:lemccum...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:38 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location defaults changedIt has nothing to do with USA vs United States. It has everything to do with Legacy changing MY data. Problem is I have to much data to switch to another genealogy program. GEDCOMs do not work and data is always lost. I do my research for my family and have no desire for anyone else to see or use. Color me stingy. Don't care.On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:I understand well the argument that Legacy should have informed theusers so they could make the choice between USA and United States. Iactually intend on changing our locations to comply with the UnitedStates standard since it was pointed out to me by Sherry there is a needto do so for the public records.But I don't understand why so many on the list have apparently opted tojust be stingy and not share their work with others. True, you shouldbe given credit for the work you've done, but why not be willing toshare with your extended family?  I don't get it...Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.orgOn 3/12/2012 2:24 PM, James Cook wrote: That was my thought initially, but after a follow-up from the OPer, it seems that when entering new locations (and I guess when geolocating), Legacy now returns "United States" ALWAYS. So, if you are one who prefers USA, you must manually change it every time. Not friendly at all. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: Quit moaning! It won't do any good! 5 minutes to run through the Master Locations List and change them all (and all usages) to what you want.Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

2012-03-11 Thread mbstx

Re Robert's comment on whether the Title should be omitted if identical to 
Source List Name, that's something that drives me crazy.  It's one more 
little quirk of Legacy that's easy to forget when making source entries 
according to Evidence Explained.  I also don't think omitting it solves the 
ibid problem.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Robert Runion sarge1...@cox.net
Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

I think I misspoke in my earlier message. When looking at the 'View'  -  
'Master Lists' - 'Source…' - 'edit' -  'Edit Master Source Definition' - 
and use the same 'name' for the 'Source List Name' and the 'Title', both 
'names' will appear in the same numbered end note of a book - which appeared 
to me to be duplications - perhaps not.  Should an entry in 'Title' be 
eliminated/omitted when it is identical to the entry in the  'Source List 
Name'? It appears that if I leave the 'Title' blank when entering Master 
Sources, the first appearance of the source in a book format will be the full 
reference reading with subsequent end notes showing as a cversion of the 
Master Source, somewhat like Michele indicated.

On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 Not only should identical sources not repeat [when they are back to back] 
 but once you used a short source [subsequent citation] it should continue to 
 use that short citation even if the details are slightly different.  The 
 classic example is a book.

 1st citation [no italics because I am using plain text]:

 Leonard L. Slade Sr., compiler, Lamar County Heritage (Baltimore, MD: 
 Gateway Press, Inc., 1978), 237.

 Subsequent citations:

 Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 237.
 Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 142.
 Slade, Lamar County Heritage, 68.

 Even though the page number changes,,you should still be using the short 
 citation.

 Michele

 -Original Message-
 From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net]
 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:35 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

 Jemima, Marianne, and Bob:

 Identical source citations should not repeat in reports.  There are certain 
 conditions that will cause them to do that but these can be corrected.  To 
 get help from the LUG list you need to identify the specific report you're 
 generating, whether the repetition is in footnotes, endnotes or 
 bibliography, the format you're producing (RTF, HTML, or in the Preview).
 If you'll be very thorough in posting the description of your condition 
 someone will surely be able to solve the problem.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: ArdenholmeGenealogy
 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:23 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid. in reports

 Hello

 Does the Ibid. (repeats what is listed in the previous citations) work OK in 
 reports?

 I am trying to create an Ancestor book report for an ancestor and notice 
 that the sources at the end of this report are mostly of the same source so 
 it is repeating itself many times.

 As I have already checked Ibid in
 Options/Customise/Sources, it doesn't look that it is working in the report 
 function.

 I have just been checking the archives for this user group but cannot see 
 any recent posts . Can anyone confirm this?

 Many thanks,

 Jemima

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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding children's birth places to family view

2012-03-04 Thread mbstx

I have many families with 10+ children.  Incorporating birthplaces on the 
family view would make it virtually impossible to view all the children at once 
(something I now do by splitting them into 2 or 3 columns).  I vote for knowing 
who the children are, with simple options such as have been mentioned to see 
where and when they were born.  Mariannne

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
Sent: Mar 4, 2012 2:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding children's birth places to family view

On 2012/03/04 04:36, unique64 Riley wrote:

 Thank you for the ideas. I still would like to be able to see the children's
 birthplaces right on the family view, but am very glad to have a couple of
 different options!

Screen-estate is a precious commodity! I don't think that there's the space on
the window or the physical screen for most people to accommodate your wish.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg

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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread mbstx

RE your last sentence - if one has never used Check/Repair, wouldn't all 
back-ups be suspect, and none considered clean? Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
Sent: Jan 20, 2012 8:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

The Legacy backup collects all the various pieces of the database into a zip 
file container.  That zip file is smaller because of the techniques used in 
the zip process but the container also preserves the file integrity.  A zip 
file will not open if it is corrupted or partial.  External drive backups are 
valuable but will not provide a saved version of your file should it be 
necessary to return to an earlier edition of the database.  The external file 
would only be a backup of the last version saved.  At times, an error is only 
discovered days after the problem occurred and the current file and the last 
backup are both infected.

Check/Repair is a very necessary procedure on any database.  It determines if 
file structures are properly connected.  It does not repair data errors which 
may be discovered in various problem reports.  It does not change data.  It 
may remove incorrectly linked marriages, etc.  Anyone who fails to run 
check/repair on a regular basis is going to be surprised to find that the 
computer programming is not flawless.  Even if check/repair never finds and 
fixes problems, it still needs to be run.

As a general rule, I believe that a clean Check/Repair should be completed 
just prior to a backup so that if the backup needs to be restored, it can be 
considered to be a clean database without structural errors.

Ron Taylor

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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

2012-01-20 Thread mbstx

I keep several backups on a flash drive (each day as I finish entering data I 
back up that day's work, which is day/time stamped; I then delete the earliest 
of the other back-ups).  I'm also backing up everything on my computer to Mozy 
once a day.

Perhaps I could do a check/repair on the 2nd most recent back-up (or one of the 
others) to see what crops up?  Then I would know what the state of that one was 
at least.  If I then did check/repair prior to backing up my latest work, I 
would only be a bit off if something goofy happens.

Does that make sense?

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
Sent: Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair

Marianne,
Very true.  If your current database has errors in it and you have never run 
check/repair, then all prior backups are suspect because they probably 
contained the errors when they were generated.

Others have stated that they would backup before check/repair which is not a 
bad idea but based on the above, if errors are found and fixed, then backups 
of the cleaned database would be preferable to backups which might contain 
errors.
Ron Taylor





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RE: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

2011-12-15 Thread mbstx

I haven't had my second cup of coffee.  I can't find the Families App at 
Amazon.com - can you direct me?

-Original Message-
From: Ann Barry aba...@pipeline.com
Sent: Dec 15, 2011 6:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

I've bought it and it works fine as far as I can tell.

Ann Barry

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Green [mailto:malc...@telgen.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: malcolmcgr...@googlemail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

According to Amazon, the Families app is now available for download to Kindle 
Fire from the Amazon Appstore.  As the Kindle Fire is not yet available in the 
UK, and purchases from the Amazon Appstore are also not yet available, I'm 
unable to confirm this.  If anyone has successfully purchased Families for 
Kindle Fire we'd be grateful if you could let us know.

Malcolm Green
TelGen Limited

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Re: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

2011-12-15 Thread mbstx

Thank You!!!-Original Message-
From: Don Varner <donvarn...@gmail.com>
Sent: Dec 15, 2011 9:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

Try this link
http://www.amazon.com/TelGen-Limited-Families/dp/B006GYOX5W/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8qid=1323963429sr=8-12
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM, mbstx msz...@mindspring.com wrote:
I haven't had my second cup of coffee. I can't find the Families App at Amazon.com - can you direct me?

-Original Message-
From: Ann Barry aba...@pipeline.com
Sent: Dec 15, 2011 6:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

I've bought it and it works fine as far as I can tell.

Ann Barry

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Green [mailto:malc...@telgen.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: malcolmcgr...@googlemail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Families for Kindle Fire

According to Amazon, the Families app is now available for download to Kindle Fire from the Amazon Appstore. As the Kindle Fire is not yet available in the UK, and purchases from the Amazon Appstore are also not yet available, I'm unable to confirm this. If anyone has successfully purchased Families for Kindle Fire we'd be grateful if you could let us know.

Malcolm Green
TelGen Limited

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Re: [LegacyUG] V8

2011-12-06 Thread mbstx

I'm an indexer [have been for years], and using my indexer log on [which is is 
the same one I use to access ordering films, etc.], I still cannot get access.  
I get the same your account is not ready... message - I just tried it.  
Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
Sent: Dec 6, 2011 12:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V8

I should have mentioned that indexers member or non-member have access.
Also if you are registered at new.FamilySearch.org, the LDS church has
been giving access to non members on a random selection to access
new.FamilySearch.org

Tim Rosenlof

On 12/6/2011 11:03 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
 All indexers have access to the New Family Search
 (nFS) new.FamilySearch.org

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 12/6/2011 10:21 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
 I did not have to create a new account. It's the same one I had been
 using for familysearch since they last updated accounts. I also used
 it for indexing. I am not a member of the church.

 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Paul Brodsky
 pbrod...@officefunnies.commailto:pbrod...@officefunnies.com  wrote:

  So...just to confirm, the consensus is that NEW Family Search is
  still not open to the general public though a very luck few have
  been granted access but only when they create a brand new account
  (not connected to their current Family Search account)

  Does that sum it up correctly?

  On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Nannette Fretwell
  nannet...@gmail.commailto:nannet...@gmail.com  wrote:

  I've tried several times to get allowance on the site - even
  as an indexer and arbitrator I still cannot get through the
  login. It's a bit frustrating.

  On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Cheryl Rothwell
  historysle...@gmail.commailto:historysle...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Has something different happened? I went to the site,
  signed in,
  everything seemed the same as before.

  On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Paula Ryburn
  paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
  mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:

Typed too soon... have my login but here's the message
  when I try to use it:

Your account is not ready for new.familysearch.org
  http://new.familysearch.org.
Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
  Saints.You will be informed
by your priesthood leaders when your area can use the
  system. Members should use

their LDS Account.
Volunteers who previously used new.familysearch.org
  http://new.familysearch.org.
Click here to combine your previous and new accounts.
General public. Look for a future announcement when you
  will have access to
new.familysearch.orghttp://new.familysearch.org.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to show parents and siblings of 'spouses' in a book?

2011-11-02 Thread mbstx

I add spouses as individuals because you never know what might pop up.  Like 
the man who married two women, each of whom are my first cousins twice removed, 
and who both track back to my 2nd great-grandfather as a common ancestor.  
Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com
Sent: Nov 2, 2011 9:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to show parents and siblings of 'spouses' in a 
book?

I have noticed that a lot of people model relatives of spouses as
individuals in their tree. I can see where this might prove helpful when you
find a distant cousin who descends from that line. My own (perhaps selfish)
approach is to not model them but to mention them in the general notes for
that spouse. That way the information does appear in descendant reports, and
the clues and sources are there for someone who wants to do further
research.

  Ward

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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to show parents and siblings of 'spouses' in a
book?

There are some reports that will include the names of the parents of
spouses but there is no report in Legacy that will include siblings of
spouses.

Brian
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On 01/11/2011 4:11 PM, elizabeth wrote:
 Hello list,

 I'm still working on getting the layout of my family book to look they way
 I want it to when its finally printed.

 I want to include the parents and siblings of all the 'spouses' of my
 ancestors but don't know how to do it. Is there a setting for it?

 Right now I am using the Books / Descendants report as my base. When I
 have
 everything in there the way I want it, I will take it to Word to add all
 the additional test I want in the book (history of townships, family
 stories, etc.)

 Thank for all the help I get on this list!
 Elizabeth

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Re: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates

2011-10-27 Thread mbstx

From whom did you obtain the privately held marriage record, and is it an 
exact copy of say, a marriage license or a church marriage for the couple?  
Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net
Sent: Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates

This is probably a dumb question, however, I was recently provided a copy of
a  Marriage Certificate privately held by an individual. I had previously
been to the County Clerk and photocopied the necessary information that was
recorded by the County Clerk for the same Marriage Record. My question
regards the appropriate Source Writer template for both of these source,
even though they are relative to the same marriage.

Should the privately held marriage certificate be recorded using the
Artifact template, and the Marriage Record maintained by the County Clerk be
recorded using the Marriage Certificate, Local Government template?

Are privately held Birth, Marriage, and Death Certificates considered
Artifacts, at least until verified by following up with the appropriate
county or state agency?

Thank you for your assistance,

Charles E. Apple

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Re: [LegacyUG] Which template

2011-09-15 Thread mbstx

To me it's a military record, with the death and cemetery info just incidental 
to the main data. M

-Original Message-
From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
Sent: Sep 15, 2011 10:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Which template

Family Search has released some new images that I am interested in.  The
main database is

Mississippi State Archives, Various Records, 1820-1951

HOWEVER, within that image collection are smaller collections sorted by
county.  What I am looking at is

Military Grave Registrations, 1914-1941

How would I source this?  Military records?  Cemetery Records?  These are
images of handwritten cards that have a ton of info on them.Here is a
transcription of a card, maybe that will help you decide what template to
use...

LAMAR, Co. PVt. 1ST CL. #1,594,511 White. W.W. ARMY
BAREFOOT, ROWEN S. Born 1896 at Purvis, Miss
Killed in action 10-5-1918 in France.
ENLISTED. 6-22-1917. in Co. G. !ST MISS NG. TO Co. G.
155TH INF. TO 15TH Co. June auto, repl. Draft. TO
Co. F. 163rd inf. To Co. H. 109th inf. to Death
next of kin. Mrs. Eliza Barefoot. (mother)
Purvis, Miss.
overseas from6-12-1918. To Death.

Michele

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Re: [LegacyUG] Text/Comments versus Scanned Image

2011-08-21 Thread mbstx

I add the actual text into the "text/comments" field because it's a fast way to see the details of the source. I've scanned quite a few documents, but haven't yet attached them to anything in Legacy so I have to either open them from my C drive or go to the 3-ring binders where I have the documents filed. I think this is another case of "do what you feel is best."-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Glasow 
Sent: Aug 21, 2011 10:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Text/Comments versus Scanned Image

Do Ineed to type an entire document's contents into the Text/Comments tab in the Source Detail if I've scanned the document and have it linked to the source? I don't see the purpose of this and would like to save myself from theextensive time and effort needed to type in the text of each document.

Many thanks,
Priscilla

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Re: [LegacyUG] More thoughts invited on Event Sentences

2011-08-17 Thread mbstx

I don't design event sentences if I don't like the standard options.  In the 
Sentence Overide tab I put [Notes][Sources], then write whatever I like in 
the Notes tab.

RE the date, it depends.  If say, the actual date of the event is stated, I use 
that, then make a note as to where I found it and attach the source.  If the 
source just gives the information I use the date of the source, again with an 
explanation.

Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Sent: Aug 17, 2011 11:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] More thoughts invited on Event Sentences

I know that is is probably preferable to edit Reports in a wordprocessor
to get the best results and that many people do this.  I don't often
have cause to print Reports but I like to have my Event Sentences
designed to produce a reasonably grammatical and sensible output
whenever possible.  LUGgers recently assisted me towards the decision to
have separate Events with different wording, including some part of the
EventName in [[privacy brackets]] for Events which can be done by or
done to an individual.

Now I am turning my attention to Events - Facts, to be more accurate -
where the Source occurs after the person's death.  For example, a son
or daughter marries several years after the father's decease and enters
his (the father's) Occupation on the Marriage Register.  Another
example, a Will is probated a year after a person's death and the
documents state the person's home address.  How do LUGgers handle such
Events/Facts?

Do you create an Occupation or Address Event and leave it undated?  Or
do you put the date of the Marriage or Probate which is when the
statement was made about the person's occupation or address?  Do you
do either of the above and add an Event Note such as This was stated on
his son's Marriage Certificate, 5 years after his decease?

I am contemplating the possibility of having 2 types of Address or
Occupation Event.  One, the usual On date his Address was ... or On
date he was a ... and the other something along the lines of On
date it was stated that he had been ... or On date it was stated
that his address at the time of his death was ..., with perhaps an
explanatory Note.

As usual it will be interesting and helpful to see how other LUGgers
deal with these situations.
--
Jenny M Benson







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re: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion

2011-08-12 Thread mbstx

However, how do you source a negative, that is a non-event?  I handle didn't 
marry and had no children with an explanation in the General Notes as to why 
I think that is so.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com
Sent: Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion

Jerry,

If I recall correctly we added Had No Children and Did Not Marry to the
list of possible events that users could an a source to because  some of
our users wanted it. They pointed out there was a need to document the fact
that a couple did not ever marry or that they did not ever have children.

Jim Terry
Legacy Family Tree
Technical Support

 Original Message 
 From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 1:45 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Events Listing Confusion

 I think this subject came up once before, but I still don't understand
 the rationale behind having a list of events which states Had No
 Children  - Did Not Marry, etc., when, in fact, they were married and

 did have children.   I realize this is just a list of possible events,
 but doesn't it seem like a bit of strange programming logic?Anyone
 else with me and know to what I am referring? Open up the source
 listing and you will find the list there.  Thanks,  --Jerry in Michigan
 / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org

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Re: [LegacyUG] What about the future of my genealogy data

2011-08-08 Thread mbstx




I agree with Monica re her question as to "which Legacy Report/Chart captures most, if not all the data...collected." I think it's probably one of the descendants reports, but which one is really best? My nephew is the only person who will survive me, and he is definitely not interested in purchasing Legacy software, and at this point I don't want to put my whole tree on the web. Marianne
-Original Message- From: Monica Palmer Sent: Aug 8, 2011 9:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What about the future of my genealogy data I think this question can be Legacy related... I definitely keep a hard (paper) copy of everything for exactly that reason. I don't know if my children or other family members would really want to get on to a genealogy software program, although I don't know why! ;) The question could be, Sherry, which report/chart that Legacy prints do you recommend that could capture all, if not most, of the data we've entered about families that we could possibly update on a time schedule set by ourselves? That way we aren't entering this information in for nothing if future generations have no interest in using the program itself. I know compiling a book would be an appropriate way, but if we don't make it to that point what can we do in the meantime?Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp

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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Source Clipboard

2011-07-26 Thread mbstx

I'm sorry, but having that button apply to ALL events still makes no sense to 
me, and it didn't the last time this subject came up.  I just decided to never 
use that 3-bar icon as it can completely mess up how sources are assigned.  M

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Jul 26, 2011 10:16 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Source Clipboard

The Help file states:

Or, you can click 3-bar icon pictured here  to have Legacy
automatically assign the source to every field on the Information form
that is not blank.  (This also includes all events in the event
list.)

Dave works hard at writing the Help files. It would be awesome if
people took time to read them! rbg

This is how the Source Clipboard has worked since it was first created.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which some would take to mean Vital events. The others are often added
 later, one at a time, with perhaps more thought given as to how  best to
 source them. And the symbols are to the immediate left of the primary
 events.
 Randy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dallas, Texas Legacy User Group ?????

2011-07-25 Thread mbstx

I would welcome a group in Dallas itself [this location is quite far north for 
those of us who live closer to central Dallas].  Marianne
-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Jul 25, 2011 1:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dallas, Texas Legacy User Group ?

Oops - it must have been too early in the morning for me g.  I saw
Plano after I saw Dallas and Plano is what stuck in my mind!

I don't see Dallas in the LUG list archives so I don't think it was
ever discussed in the groups, unless the archiving company missed it
(they've had some glitches over the years)

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Betty Mitchell bdmitche...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 I know of that one. Was told there was plans for a Dallas group forming but 
 unable to locate it or how to let someone know I'm interested in coming to a 
 Dallas group meeting

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Help files that are nt very helpful!

2011-07-06 Thread mbstx

Having it up near the top makes much more sense than at the bottom.  I, for 
one, would probably not have paged all the way through the instructions looking 
for it.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Jul 6, 2011 10:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Help files that are nt very helpful!

All of the translation teams have translated the Help files into their
languages and frequently respond with comments about something that
doesn't sound right.  None of them have made mention of the location
of the feature being listed at the bottom as being inappropriate.  Nor
have any of the beta testers.

I reviewed Help files in other programs and there was no consistency
in how they presented where to find a feature.

I don't pretend to know the logic of the programmer who writes the
Help file, but I did let him know that there's a discussion on the LUG
list about this.

Sometimes knowing how entails reading the entire Help topic to learn
about the feature.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net wrote:
 Sherry,

 the information SHOULD be at the top of the page. There is a saying that
 it's always easy when you know who.  Well, this is definitelty a case in
 point.

 Why isn't the information at the top of help page were it would be helpful?
 If I can't find how to locate the Advanced Tagging window why would I read
 through to the end of the instructions for using it to eventually --
 maybe -- find out how to locate it?

 Help files should be helpful.  They shouldn't be hiding information in
 places where the user isn't like to find it.

 When one programs a web site, there are useability tests which can be used
 to see if the objective for the web site is met and if readers can navigate
 the web pages easily.  Why can't there be some useability testing for help
 pages of software?  It wouldn't require any major expense.  All that is
 needed is to have someone follow verbatim  the instructionsof a help page to
 see if the help pages were truly helpful.

 Just my two cents.

 Cathy-0

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Re: [LegacyUG] This is downright STRANGE!

2011-06-14 Thread mbstx

I agree. Even if you use the "Add Clipboard Source to all Used Fields and Events" button, it shouldn't add a clipboard source to empty fields.-Original Message-
From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
Sent: Jun 14, 2011 1:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] This is downright STRANGE!

However, they still wouldn’t explain why the source showed up in every spot
possible on each individual.

michele

From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] This is downright STRANGE!

Hm, I suppose that is possible because I do exactly as you say. I
will pull up a similar source and edit. The only thing, since this is a
just a book I don’t think I would have done it that way since it is simple to do
as a new source but I certainly won’t rule it out. 

michele

From: Don Cook 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:29 PM
To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] This is downright STRANGE!

Michele, You may want to revisit the 67 other people.

When I create a new Master Source, I often Edit an existing source (in an
attempt to get some consistency) and when I Save I get the option to apply the
changes to ALL references to the source or apply to a NEW source entry. If
you did this and then clicked the wrong Save option you would have replaced the
Edited source with the new version.

Maybe not a real clear explanation, but

Don

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Re: [LegacyUG] National characters in names

2011-06-13 Thread mbstx

For SOME of my Slovak surnames I have been able to use the letters with accent 
marks that appear to the left of Events box in the Individual's Information 
window.  However, that doesn't cover all of the diacritical marks needed.

-Original Message-
From: andersons...@comcast.net
Sent: Jun 12, 2011 8:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] National characters in names

I,too, am struggling with my Slovak names.  How are the rest of you showing 
what the names actually are (especially surnames and village names)in Legacy 
if you can't use the actual names with the diacriticals?  In the village for 
one family surname I am researching I have found the same surname as mine but 
with a diacritical on a letter.  And with the first names being pretty much 
the same in the village, one could very easily take the wrong research path 
for the lack of a mark.  So, how do you let everyone know what those 
diacriticals are?  I have tried writing my notes in Word and copying them over 
to Legacy notes, but the diacriticals do not copy correctly.

I started on Legacy with my husbands English, Irish and Swedish ancestors and 
found Legacy a joy to work with.  Now, working on my side of the family, with 
all four of my grandparents coming from Slovakia, I am constantly frustrated 
and have piles of paper documents that I can't enter correctly into Legacy.  
What is a work-around to let everyone looking at my reports (or myself after a 
Legacy absence)know exactly what specific names I am researching?

Faith Anderson

- Original Message -
From: Jurek Hirschberg jurek.hirschb...@hirschberg.se
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:53:49 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] National characters in names

I am new to Legacy and thus have possibly missed something obvious. I am 
unable to enter nor import names that include Polish national characters. The 
answer from Legacy Support is: “ Currently Legacy will only work with Western 
European fonts.  Legacy was developed with Visual Basic 6.0 and our goal is to 
port it to another programming language which will allow us to have full 
Unicode support. ” Is there a work-around? – or is this genealogy software 
really unable to correctly spell family and place names that go outside the 
basic character set? Has anybody seen any activity on the part of Legacy 
indicating that the statement about portation should be taken literally within 
foreseeable future? Please note that I am not inquiring about international 
versions of Legacy but rather about user-controlled data in the standard 
version.

Jurek Hirschberg

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mushed Pedigree Chart - Preview

2011-04-19 Thread mbstx

I would like to see the Landscape Option returned.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Apr 19, 2011 11:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mushed Pedigree Chart - Preview

Which build do you have?  Landscape orientation on the Page Setup tab
was disabled a long time ago. Or are you using the orientation through
the Printer setup?

How well the report formats depends a lot on what's on the report -
pictures, amount of data for each individual, fonts, etc.

Dave told me that he's going to do a complete reworking of this report
to solve the formatting problems, but not right now.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Debbie Freeman dfs...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 OK. This is weird. I choose reset first, it then went to 5 generations and 5
 generation per page in portrait. That works. Problem gone. I then tried
 Landscape too that works. I did notice that the generations button seem a
 little stuck. Then after reset it did not seem to be stuck. My problem is
 solved. When I choose 6 generation and all generations the problem came
 back. I then reset 5 generations and 5 generation and it is fixed again.
 Hope this helps the programmer's.

 Happy  still confused,
 Debbie Freeman

 Win 7 computer – 64 bit
 Legacy latest version
 7.5.0.75 version

 Tim Rosenlof wrote:

 Debbie,

 I see the problem in the tracking system. It mentions Landscape but not
 Portrait. Would you try Landscape to see if the problem still exists ?
 Also, list your version.

 Thanks,

 Tim

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Re: [LegacyUG] saving files from FamilySearch.org

2011-04-02 Thread mbstx

I have had the same problem - extremely annoying.

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
Sent: Apr 2, 2011 5:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] saving files from FamilySearch.org

On 02/04/2011 10:30, Mike Bridgeford wrote:
 Recently [for the last month], I am not able to print the FamilySearch.org
 document as a single page document with only the relevant onscreen viewed
 information. Instead of the single page viewed document I get three pages of
 the document with all the search information tabs as well. I have tried
 everything I can to change settings, and eventually tried a friends
 computer, with the same errors. So, I have concluded it is not a setting on
 my computer! I cannot find a web site to air my problems with
 FamilySearch.org.

 Can anyone help?

I started having problems printing from familysearch.org a couple of
weeks ago, after not having tried to print anything for a few weeks, but
previously no problems.  I contacted FamilySearch about this and got the
reply that they were aware of the problem and hoped to have it fixed soon.

I just did a print preview of a record now and it appears the problem
still exists.

--
Jenny M Benson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Agriculture template in Legacy - thanks

2011-01-20 Thread mbstx

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  I think I'll try making my own template as 
Robert suggests.  I might not remember about using override with the normal 
census template.  I'm assuming that once the template is created it will appear 
somewhere in the list in Source Writer?

-Original Message-
From: Robert  E. Carneal kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Agriculture template in Legacy - suggestion

Not perfect, but I used the Census template as a basis for making my
own Agriculture template. You can do this by:

1 Go to Sources
2 Select Add a new source
3 Enter Agriculture as your template name. It will warn you it
didn't find it, but that's fine- you just want the name entered.
4 Country = United States
5 Type of Census Record = Federal Census (Not exact, but close)
6 Year = 1850 Population (Again, not exact either, but close enough.)
make the Census template work.
7 Medium = Online Images.

Will that work for you?
Robert

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and iPad?

2010-12-30 Thread mbstx

But if you want to type with the iPad, it's difficult unless you use a separate 
keyboard accessory [I've tried the keyboard on screen on my brother's and 
it's awkward].  I'll stick to my netbook.

-Original Message-
From: Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com
Sent: Dec 30, 2010 2:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and iPad?

With a less expensive netbook you could just have your Legacy program
with you. But Legacy would not be the only thing you used your iPad
for. :-)

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:
 Geoff:

 It sounds like that's the option but I'm pretty hesitant to plunk down $600 
 for an iPad that would depend on a $15 application to be successful, 
 especially since that application is at version 1.0.  Hopefully someone will 
 respond who uses Legacy on an iPad via Families and tell us whether it's 
 simple and full-featured in real life.  I see a list of what Families *can* 
 do; what is there that it *doesn't* do--short of the obvious like print?

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Geoff Rasmussen [mailto:ge...@legacyusers.com]
 Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:27 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy and iPad?

 Kirsten,

 You can use the Families app. See 
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FAM.

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net]
 Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:17 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy and iPad?

 My totally tech sons and daughter-in-law visited for a week at Christmas and
 of course there were iPads everywhere.  I'm s jealous I can't stand it,
 but I'm not about to give up Legacy.  Most of my research is online rather
 than at libraries or archives, but I'd love to be able to sit on the patio
 or at the local coffee shop and clean up my location list, sources, notes,
 and do some searching.  Does anyone use a Windows desktop as their main
 computer (with Legacy) and sync it somehow with an iPad?  If so, how is it
 done and what is required?  Is it a satisfactory arrangement for a
 non-technical person?

 Kirsten

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Re: [LegacyUG] LUG off line?

2010-08-04 Thread mbstx


I checked the archives before I sent my message. Interestingly, the only message in the archives for Aug 3 is yours. Was the LUG really that quiet yesterday?
-Original Message- From: TH Sent: Aug 4, 2010 9:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LUG off line? 
I haven't either. Check the archives. I found a message I posted and a response to that message in the archives. So it's not just me. And it may not be my ISP ;-)

Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Marianne Szabo msz...@mindspring.com wrote:
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Re: [LegacyUG] reports/books

2010-07-30 Thread mbstx



I'm very impressed with your book. You say you "did a report from Legacy," but don't indicate if you used a Descendant Narrative, the Publishing Center, or something else. Your flow of events is very smooth andwell written - this is something I have struggled with when entering events in the hope of creating a good narrative (I use [Notes] [Sources] always to override the standard wording).
I recently had another problem when creating a descendant narrative for a proposed article. I saved it as an .rtf, then added additional narrative with sources in Word. However, I could never get the font of the footnote numerals both in the body copy and in the footnote to match what Legacy generates.
Did you have that problem converting Legacy to Open Office?
Marianne
-Original Message- From: Mary Figgins Sent: Jul 30, 2010 8:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] reports/books 



I just did a family history for a family reunion. I put it on Lulu.com for family members to purchase. To make the book, I did a report from Legacy and then edited in OpenOffice (chosen because Lulu prefers a pdf and accepted Oo's version better than Word's). By doing this I was able to put in information or explanations, leave out information and generally do it closer to the way I wanted. If you want to see what I ended up with you can go to Lulu.com and search for Gwinner or Dunhaupt. Then click on the title to go to the book's page. Under the cover is the option to view preview.Mary Beth Figgins



From: Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.comTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.comSent: Tue, July 27, 2010 2:19:32 PMSubject: [LegacyUG] reports/booksHas anyone used Legacy to create a book? I have put this project offfor quite awhile, not wanting to duplicate my efforts due to aninsufficient program. I need to create some sort of book for about 5different lines for different people and I want to include all theusual information - pedigree, timeline, photographs, documents andmore personal notes and details about the individuals, families  theareas  lives they lived. I don't know if I can use Legacy for theentire project, or if I should use it partially and paste pages intoanother program or if I should import Legacy data somewhere else forthis type of project. I have a lot of pictures that I wouldn'tnecessarily import into Legacy but might use in a book; then again,maybe I should? I might have dozens or more pictures of a particularindividual or family that would be nice in a scrapbook/album typeformat.Thank you for your comments  suggestions, Kathy--Kathy Meyer"To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do thingsyou have never before done."--Richard G. Scott, "Finding the Way Back," Ensign, May 1990, 74Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expectingdifferent results. ~ Albert EinsteinLegacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.aspLegacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp


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Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

2010-05-21 Thread mbstx

Except per recent posts the problem is till there in 7.4.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: May 21, 2010 5:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

Marianne,

If you use an outdated version we cannot help you with your problems. Dave
has had a blitz on bugs over the past month or so resolving issues. I am
afraid that unless you update you will have to find your own solutions, as
we cannot reolve bugs, only report them. When Dave resolves them the job is
done. There are very few bugs left in the current version and you have those
few already.

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England

mbstx wrote:
 The data were entered over time so I don't recall what I did for each
 instance, but this is how I generally do it.

 Enter couple: John Jones and Mary Smith
 Add children: James, Sally, etc.
 If any info [generally a surname] about spouses of children is known
 [from obits, etc.] attach that spouse to the child and enter that
 info leave other field [for given name] blank: Sally married [unknown
 given name, so I leave it blank] Parker
 When I find the missing information, go to the spouse's data block in
 the Family view and enter the new info [generally the given name]:
 [blank] Parker becomes Thedore Parker.

 In the Descendant Narrative report I get Sally married someone
 Theodore Parker.

 I also just checked, and there are no unknown spouses in the
 husband/wife of icon in the various persons data block.

 I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues
 that keep coming up], on Windows XP.   Marianne

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 Sent: May 20, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see
 previous posts in this thread.

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England

 mbstx wrote:
 I have the same problem in a report I just generated.  What I don't
 understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname,
 but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the
 same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown?
 Marianne

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as
 blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an
 odd instance where unknown still appears, and have yet to work
 out why.

 I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a
 string that automatically removes the someone when an actual
 name is entered. How is a machine expected to know whether or not
 the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different
 relationship.

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England

 CE Wood wrote:
 I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake.
 As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses
 discovered.  There needs to be a string that automatically removes
 the someone when an actual name is entered.

 Correcting one marriage is not the issue.  Correcting them ALL is
 ridiculous.

 Legacy did say this error had been fixed.  I guess not, huh?

 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix
 it
 was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using
 the Marriage List.

 Jennifer

 From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday
 (after
 having converted pdf to doc, edited ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ or so I thought
 ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) 
 and
 have noticed that I
 have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN.  I
 thought this problem had been resolved some time ago

Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

2010-05-20 Thread mbstx

I have the same problem in a report I just generated.  What I don't understand 
is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, but I know the other, 
and later I add the new information into the same person's data fields, why 
would there still be an unknown?  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7
now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where
unknown still appears, and have yet to work out why.

I hope that I misunderstand when you say There needs to be a string that
automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. How is
a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it
could be a totally different relationship.

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England

CE Wood wrote:
 I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake.
 As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses
 discovered.  There needs to be a string that automatically removes
 the someone when an actual name is entered.

 Correcting one marriage is not the issue.  Correcting them ALL is
 ridiculous.

 Legacy did say this error had been fixed.  I guess not, huh?

 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it
 was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the
 Marriage List.

 Jennifer

 From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

 I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after
 having converted pdf to doc, edited â€“ or so I thought â€“ resaved as
 pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have
 the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN.  I thought this
 problem had been resolved some time ago.  Originally I had an unknown
 wife for Fred, but recently added a name.  Obviously the someone is a
 hangover from when her name was unknown.  How does one resolve this
 problem other than having to read through every report word for word
 once it has been created.  At the moment I tend to rely on Wordâ€™s
 spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as
 making any additions or deletions that I know I need â€“ Iâ€™d prefer not
 to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case
 the extraneous â€˜someoneâ€™ is in place.

 Cheers
 Jan

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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple marriages

2010-04-12 Thread mbstx

I have the bigger problem of folks who have more than one previous spouse (info 
I can confirm as to the marriage taking place, but not the names).  I use 1st 
wife (or husband of , 2nd wife (or husbnd) of xxx, for the same reason 
as Lionel notes below - easier identification in various lists and in indexes 
at the ends of reports.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Lionel Carter lionelcar...@freezone.co.uk
Sent: Apr 12, 2010 1:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple marriages

Jenny M Benson wrote:
 There are a lot of people here who do not like using Unknown in place of
 an unknown name and Legacy itself suggests that you shouldn't do so, but
 I have no compunction in doing so myself.  In the circumstances you give
 I would create a new spouse and call him/her Unknown Unknown.

 I expect several people will be along in a moment to tell you what they
 use rather than Unknown Unknown.

I don't like having several 'unknowns' in my name list. I prefer to name
them 'wife of x' then I can identify them easy in other lists.
 From an information point of view they are not unknown because you know
they were the wife/husband of . It is just that you don't have the
data to supply their name.

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