Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-04 Thread Brian Kelly
I have the same situation for an aunt of my wife. Part of her ashes are 
interred in the United States with her husband and part are interred in 
Canada beside her parents. I have the second one as an event with a note 
that there is another memorial in the other location where the rest of 
her ashes are interred.


Brian Kelly

On 04-May-17 8:35 PM, C. DeLay wrote:

So when you do have conflicting FAG memorials, are you choosing the one
that seems to be the most accurate and put that in the new field? Then what
are you doing with the other one, creating it as an event/alternate fact
with explanation?

I can see I'll have trouble with this one for sure because I have one
person in my file who is legitimately buried in two different locations -
two cemeteries in two different states - at the same time. Her ashes were
split and she has an actual grave - with headstones - in both locations. To
complicate things, her name is listed slightly differently on each stone
(done purposely to show relationships to those around her) but if I recall
correctly, there is a note on each FAG profile to explain that she's the
same person as the other one rather than a sibling. Regardless, I think
I'll put the one she was buried in first in the new FAG field and then a
second burial event with an explanation for the other.

Gotta love complicated family members.

Cynthia D.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-04 Thread Ian Macaulay
FAG rules are that the first one in is the one kept regardless of the data,
However I have seen exceptions.
So I would recommend that you create an event or note that you can refer
to  and mark the duplicates or circumstances  until the issue is settled.
   If the FAG number changes and you do not have it it will be much harder
to adjust than if you have the FAG number and they remove it.
If you catch my drift.I use Grave Inscriptions and embed the full Find
a grave # 23343223  and Plot if its there.  I am now also putting the
number in the provided place in Legacy.When I have a duplicate I just
log it as Find a Grave # 243554 & 4533323.  The next time I am looking
there should be one of the two still valid.


Ian


On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:35 PM, C. DeLay  wrote:

> So when you do have conflicting FAG memorials, are you choosing the one
> that seems to be the most accurate and put that in the new field? Then what
> are you doing with the other one, creating it as an event/alternate fact
> with explanation?
>
> I can see I'll have trouble with this one for sure because I have one
> person in my file who is legitimately buried in two different locations -
> two cemeteries in two different states - at the same time. Her ashes were
> split and she has an actual grave - with headstones - in both locations. To
> complicate things, her name is listed slightly differently on each stone
> (done purposely to show relationships to those around her) but if I recall
> correctly, there is a note on each FAG profile to explain that she's the
> same person as the other one rather than a sibling. Regardless, I think
> I'll put the one she was buried in first in the new FAG field and then a
> second burial event with an explanation for the other.
>
> Gotta love complicated family members.
>
> Cynthia D.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-04 Thread C. DeLay
So when you do have conflicting FAG memorials, are you choosing the one
that seems to be the most accurate and put that in the new field? Then what
are you doing with the other one, creating it as an event/alternate fact
with explanation?

I can see I'll have trouble with this one for sure because I have one
person in my file who is legitimately buried in two different locations -
two cemeteries in two different states - at the same time. Her ashes were
split and she has an actual grave - with headstones - in both locations. To
complicate things, her name is listed slightly differently on each stone
(done purposely to show relationships to those around her) but if I recall
correctly, there is a note on each FAG profile to explain that she's the
same person as the other one rather than a sibling. Regardless, I think
I'll put the one she was buried in first in the new FAG field and then a
second burial event with an explanation for the other.

Gotta love complicated family members.

Cynthia D.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch
Sherry,

 

Even primary document have errors. My maternal grandfather was born in 1880. 
Yet the official, primary county record give his gender as ‘female’ and his 
name as the female version.

 

As for the discussion being far from Legacy, not really. With a primary record 
that contains errors, what type of record evaluation would be best recorded in 
Legacy to acknowledge those errors? And, where would you identify/record the 
errors, with corresponding proof? And, don’t forget identifying the Surety 
Level of that primary document’ information.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​

​​

Sherry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread CE WOOD
AMEN!! Again.


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:18 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
Sherry


On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch 
mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net>> wrote:
“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
Denise

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Bob Austen
The ‘no trusting’ part goes for any site.  I accept the info then go about 
getting proof.  I wish I could come up  my example I recorded years ago where I 
had 8 differences on one page between the English church transcripts – 
Archdeacon’s and Bishop’s.  Which do you go by?  Additionally I have spent a 
lot of time at the LDS library in Salt Lake City and witnessed firsthand how 
the family trees are put together.  And online trees?  Bottom line, don’t 
accept anything as gospel – I will accept it and then set about 
proving/disproving it.

 

Bob Austen

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 5:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on Find 
A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but that 
doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information transcribed 
and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get the 
*primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by Find 
A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the 
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from 
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's not 
always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they posted 
bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have no idea if 
the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​

​​

Sherry

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch  
wrote:

“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”

A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.

When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.

Denise

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Sherry
I understand that - my comment is that you can't *trust* what you find on
Find A Grave to be accurate. One of the bonuses is tombstone pictures, but
that doesn't mean the information on the tombstone *or* the information
transcribed and placed on Find A Grave is accurate.

Sometimes people take these things as gospel. We need to be careful and get
the *primary* documentation

The spurious marriage and child for my ancestor was somehow "estimated" by
Find A Grave.

​Bad information can be posted on a website and *must* be confirmed by the
primary documentation - i.e., birth date from birth record, death date from
death record, etc.

A newbie would assume that what they find on the site is correct, but it's
not always.

I have written to people who have posted memorials to let them know they
posted bad info. most of them are just transcribing tombstones and have
no idea if the info is correct or not.

However, we're getting way far from Legacy in this thread
​
​​
Sherry


On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch  wrote:

> “I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
>
> My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
>
> A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave.
> A family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any
> number of reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
>
> When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and
> identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances,
> with the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference
> between the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
>
> Denise
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

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When I first went to the find a grave icon on Legacy I was offered three 
options: 1 - Search for the Current Person, 2- Make a list of those who have a 
find a grave ID number and 3 - make a list of those without a find a grave ID 
number. Now when I right click on the find a grave icon I get two options: 1 - 
Show quick access toolbar below the ribbon and 2 - Minimize the ribbon. How do 
I correct this?



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Sent: Tue, May 2, 2017 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates



“I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.
My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate”
A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A 
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number of 
reasons as to how they had the wrong date.
When I’ve found such I’ve written the contributor to the memorial and 
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with 
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference between 
the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.
Denise
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 2:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

AMEN!!!
 

CE

 



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates 

 



I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was 
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person is 
buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the benefits 
check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be used for 
either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two 
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I find 
the *primary* source!

Sherry

 

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr.  wrote:


Ian
I too have run across this… I use simple logic.
Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)
 
Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.
 
Henry
 
 
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Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
 


Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian







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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch
"I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate"

A tombstone with the wrong birth date is hardly the fault of Find A Grave. A
family member at the time commissioned the tombstone. There are any number
of reasons as to how they had the wrong date.

When I've found such I've written the contributor to the memorial and
identified my source. Corrections have been made in such circumstances, with
the memorial creator typically adding a note to explain the difference
between the date on the headstone and the date identified in the memorial.

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 2:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

AMEN!!!

 

CE

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > on behalf of Sherry
mailto:hot.rod.w...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates 

 

I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person
is buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the
benefits check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be
used for either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I
find the *primary* source!

Sherry

 

 

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. mailto:hpete...@cox.net> > wrote:

Ian

I too have run across this. I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates,
burial location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at
siblings, to see where there were buried.)

 

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

 

Henry

 

 

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<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
mentally running through possible traps.

Ian






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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Ian Macaulay
Yes I understand how FAG runs and I do try and keep my records in order.
When there are duplicates I flag them. I use events in legacy  and keep
both as Find A Grave memorial number 12345 & 54321  And send the edit
request to the parties involved but you never know which will be valid and
which not.

  Also some folks just do not exist and have duplicate memorials  such as
at Vimy and Balmoral, ( Just names for sake of discussion) Both are valid
but   I guess I just answered my own question.  However If you know the
data is wrong you should supply the correction.  The false data can change
history and its really incumbent on you to try and correct it.

Now How do I get the events to change to FAG numbers in the FAG Field.

Ian



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> Yes, you can. The earlier memorial takes precedence. Ideally, the later
> memorial is merged into the earlier one, but if the later contributor takes
> no heed, then you contact FAG. All is explained in their Help files.
>
>
> Cheers, Carolyn
>
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> behalf of Brian Kelly 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:37 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
>
> You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event
> for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate
> memorial numbers.
>
> There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this
> and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some
> procedure to report the duplication.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> > Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> > new legacy field?
> > What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> > logged in Legacy?
> >
> > I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> > events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
> > Just mentally running through possible traps.
> >
> > Ian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread CE WOOD
AMEN!!!


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that was 
not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the person is 
buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and the benefits 
check went to me in Washington. So the location for death can't be used for 
either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two 
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I find 
the *primary* source!

Sherry



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
mailto:hpete...@cox.net>> wrote:
Ian
I too have run across this… I use simple logic.
Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

Henry


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?
I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.
Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread CE WOOD
Yes, you can. The earlier memorial takes precedence. Ideally, the later 
memorial is merged into the earlier one, but if the later contributor takes no 
heed, then you contact FAG. All is explained in their Help files.


Cheers, Carolyn



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Brian Kelly 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event
for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate
memorial numbers.

There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this
and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some
procedure to report the duplication.

Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> new legacy field?
> What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> logged in Legacy?
>
> I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
> Just mentally running through possible traps.
>
> Ian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Sherry
I have seen all sorts of problems with Find A Grave.

My great grandfather's tombstone has a wrong birthdate.

FAG has a great granduncle married to a woman and fathering a child that
was not at all possible.

I thought SSDI shows where the benefits check was sent, not where the
person is buried? My father died in California, was buried in Montana and
the benefits check went to me in Washington. So the location for death
can't be used for either death or burial location!

I have seen bad information beget more bad information. When I see two
secondary or tertiary sources "match", I don't take it as gospel until I
find the *primary* source!

Sherry



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
wrote:

> *Ian*
>
> *I too have run across this… I use simple logic.*
>
> *Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates,
> burial location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at
> siblings, to see where there were buried.)*
>
>
>
> *Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.*
>
>
>
> *Henry*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Macaulay
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates
>
>
>
> Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
> new legacy field?
>
> What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
> logged in Legacy?
>
> I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
> events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
> mentally running through possible traps.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Brian Kelly
You can enter only one into the new FAG field so I would use an event 
for any duplicates (And I have found one or two people with duplicate 
memorial numbers.


There was a discussion (I think it was on the facebook group) about this 
and apparently if you are a member of Find A Grave you can follow some 
procedure to report the duplication.


Brian Kelly

On 02-May-17 2:21 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
new legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,
Just mentally running through possible traps.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread CE WOOD
You can add the other memorial in a source to whichever event the information 
pertains, or to the Unspecified Event.


Unfortunately, FAG is rife with duplicates and totally erroneous memorials.


Many contributors do not take the time and effort to thoroughly search before 
entering a new memorial; names are spelled in many different ways in many 
documents; FAG does not allow "about" years, and many contributors enter the 
"about" year as an actual year. Also realize that some duplicates are not 
cemeteries but cenotaphs (a tomblike monument to someone buried elsewhere). 
Also, some persons had their hearts buried in one place, their bodies in 
another, which can lead to memorials indentical except for the cemetery.


FAG is better for recent times when spelling is standardized and exact dates 
are known.



Cheers, Carolyn



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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates


Ian

I too have run across this… I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)



Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.



Henry





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates



Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Ian

I too have run across this… I use simple logic.

Which one seems to be more accurate. (ie, tombstone with correct dates, burial 
location[does it correlate with SSDI], and sometimes I look at siblings, to see 
where there were buried.)

 

Unfortunately you have to choose ONE memorial number.

 

Henry

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 1:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

 

Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the new 
legacy field?

What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been logged 
in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in events 
that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just mentally 
running through possible traps.

Ian






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[LegacyUG] Fina a Grave duplicates

2017-05-02 Thread Ian Macaulay
Does any one know how to handle duplicate entries in Find a Grave in the
new legacy field?
What happens when a FAG number is deleted in Find a Grave after its been
logged in Legacy?

I am not worried about all this but I do have some 6000 FAG numbers in
events that I would like to move to the FAG data window in Legacy 9,   Just
mentally running through possible traps.

Ian



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