Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

2016-09-30 Thread Cathy Pinner
I often resize the Legacy window as I resize other windows and have not 
seen this behaviour at all under Windows 10 or previously with Win 8.1, 
7 etc.


You could, with Legacy closed, try deleting Documents\Legacy Family 
Tree\_AppData\usr\Legacy2.usr which holds your sizes for each Legacy window.


Cathy

Brian Lightfoot wrote:


I’ve tried those changes to the settings in the past; Legacy continues
to spring back. In playing around with resizing the Legacy window
again this afternoon, I noticed this strange behavior. I would click
on one edge of the Legacy window and then attempt to drag that edge to
a new larger window, for example changing from ¼ screen to ½ screen.
But I would drag very slowly. After about 3 seconds of dragging and
WITHOUT me releasing the mouse button, the Legacy window would
automatically spring back to its previous position. It’s as if there
is a time limit to resize the Legacy window.

I did find a workaround for the springy resizing problem. For example,
let’s assume that the Legacy window was approximately ¼ screen and I
wanted to make it ½ screen, occupying the complete left half of the
screen. After repositioning the window into the top left corner of the
screen and then dragging the lower edge of the window down towards the
bottom of the screen, this is where the spring-back to its previous
position behavior starts. But if I only drag the lower edge down only
about 1 or 2 inches and release instead of all the way down in one
attempt, then things work normally. It may take 4 or 5 mouse drags to
finally get the window to occupy the desired ½ screen. So not only is
there a time limit for resizing but also a finite limit on the amount
of resizing. Strange. I think I’ll check other applications to see if
I can find a similar behavior.

Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ana
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:08 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and
Clipboard question

Trouble with Legacy & resize windows.

I posted this back about March. You might try it.

Microsoft in all their wisdom. created "Snap Assist" to auto arrange
windows.

Try adjusting your Windows from auto snapping your windows. If you
don't like this just redo these steps.

Windows 10 =To disable Snap Assist launch the Settings app from your
Start Menu. From the Settings window, click System. Find & click
Multitasking in the column on the left. Under the “Snap” category on
the right set choices to Off. This will disable Snap Assist in Windows
10.

Windows 7 = to stop window snapping. Open up your Control Panel, and
then go to the Ease of Access center. From there, click on “Make the
mouse easier to use”… And then remove the checkbox for “Prevent
windows from being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of
the screen”, and then click the Apply button to actually save the setting

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Elizabeth Lindsay
mailto:elizab...@nuytsia.net.au>> wrote:

I have Windows 10 and find this problem occurs intermittently with a
number of programs/apps including Outlook, so for me it is not just a
Legacy problem.

To the lady who talked about using M8 Free Clipboard: would you mind
explaining in more detail how you use the program for sourcing. I
thought my system was working well, but now realize that I could do a
lot better if I tried the clipboard.

Thanks,

Elizabeth

*From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] *On Behalf Of *Brian
Lightfoot
*Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:56 AM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been
around since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen
mode with Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half.
But whenever I have to resize the Legacy window, it takes several
mouse attempts with it just springing back to its original size. In
other words, the resizing attempt does not stick until the 3^rd or
4^th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but merely annoying.
Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It has
nothing to do with Windows 10.

Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of
*Richard Van Wasshnova
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold
the mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to
the original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop
sliding the mouse.

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the
button and it stays the

Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

2016-09-30 Thread Brian Lightfoot
I’ve tried those changes to the settings in the past; Legacy continues to 
spring back. In playing around with resizing the Legacy window again this 
afternoon, I noticed this strange behavior. I would click on one edge of the 
Legacy window and then attempt to drag that edge to a new larger window, for 
example changing from ¼ screen to ½ screen. But I would drag very slowly. After 
about 3 seconds of dragging and WITHOUT me releasing the mouse button, the 
Legacy window would automatically spring back to its previous position. It’s as 
if there is a time limit to resize the Legacy window.

 

I did find a workaround for the springy resizing problem. For example, let’s 
assume that the Legacy window was approximately ¼ screen and I wanted to make 
it ½ screen, occupying the complete left half of the screen. After 
repositioning the window into the top left corner of the screen and then 
dragging the lower edge of the window down towards the bottom of the screen, 
this is where the spring-back to its previous position behavior starts. But if 
I only drag the lower edge down only about 1 or 2 inches and release instead of 
all the way down in one attempt, then things work normally. It may take 4 or 5 
mouse drags to finally get the window to occupy the desired ½ screen. So not 
only is there a time limit for resizing but also a finite limit on the amount 
of resizing. Strange. I think I’ll check other applications to see if I can 
find a similar behavior.

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ana
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:08 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

 

Trouble with Legacy & resize windows.

I posted this back about March.  You might try it.

Microsoft in all their wisdom. created "Snap Assist" to auto arrange windows.

Try adjusting your Windows from auto snapping your windows.  If you don't like 
this just redo these steps.

Windows 10  =To disable Snap Assist launch the Settings app from your Start 
Menu. From the Settings window, click System. Find & click Multitasking in the 
column on the left. Under the “Snap” category on the right set choices to Off. 
This will disable Snap Assist in Windows 10. 

Windows 7 = to stop window snapping. Open up your Control Panel, and then go to 
the Ease of Access center. From there, click on “Make the mouse easier to use”… 
And then remove the checkbox for “Prevent windows from being automatically 
arranged when moved to the edge of the screen”, and then click the Apply button 
to actually save the setting

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Elizabeth Lindsay  
wrote:

I have Windows 10 and find this problem occurs intermittently with a number of 
programs/apps including Outlook, so for me it is not just a Legacy problem.

 

To the lady who talked about using M8 Free Clipboard: would you mind explaining 
in more detail how you use the program for sourcing. I thought my system was 
working well, but now realize that I could do a lot better if I tried the 
clipboard. 

 

Thanks,

Elizabeth

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been around 
since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode with 
Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But whenever I have 
to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse attempts with it just 
springing back to its original size. In other words, the resizing attempt does 
not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but 
merely annoying. Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It 
has nothing to do with Windows 10.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the 
mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the original 
size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the mouse.

 

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the button 
and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

 

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits this 
problem.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin  
wrote:

Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process is not 
fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 a

Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

2016-09-29 Thread Ana
Trouble with Legacy & resize windows.

I posted this back about March.  You might try it.

Microsoft in all their wisdom. created "Snap Assist" to auto arrange
windows.

Try adjusting your Windows from auto snapping your windows.  If you don't
like this just redo these steps.

Windows 10  =To disable Snap Assist launch the Settings app from your Start
Menu. From the Settings window, click System. Find & click Multitasking in
the column on the left. Under the “Snap” category on the right set choices
to Off. This will disable Snap Assist in Windows 10.

Windows 7 = to stop window snapping. Open up your Control Panel, and then
go to the Ease of Access center. From there, click on “Make the mouse
easier to use”… And then remove the checkbox for “Prevent windows from
being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of the screen”, and
then click the Apply button to actually save the setting

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Elizabeth Lindsay  wrote:

> I have Windows 10 and find this problem occurs intermittently with a
> number of programs/apps including Outlook, so for me it is not just a
> Legacy problem.
>
>
>
> To the lady who talked about using M8 Free Clipboard: would you mind
> explaining in more detail how you use the program for sourcing. I thought
> my system was working well, but now realize that I could do a lot better if
> I tried the clipboard.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Brian Lightfoot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:56 AM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?
>
>
>
> I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been
> around since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode
> with Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But
> whenever I have to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse
> attempts with it just springing back to its original size. In other words,
> the resizing attempt does not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt.
> Certainly not life threatening but merely annoying. Legacy is the only
> application that exhibits this behavior. It has nothing to do with Windows
> 10.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Van
> Wasshnova
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?
>
>
>
> I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the
> mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the
> original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the
> mouse.
>
>
>
> I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the
> button and it stays there. Both are Win 10.
>
>
>
> The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits
> this problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin <
> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process
> is not fluid as it is with other programs.
>
> There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by
> step.
>
> It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.
>
>
>
> There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.
>
>
>
> Am I the only one to see this problem?
>
>
>
> Georges
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

2016-09-27 Thread Cathy Pinner

Elizabeth,
I'm one of them.
Say I'm entering a Source that is an Index rather than a transcription - 
like South Australian Birth, Death or Marriage Indexes on FindMyPast.


I find the entry on FindMyPast and I copy the whole entry and then names 
and dates and locations that I require either for data entry or to 
complete my Source.
Then I start entering the data in Legacy. I set up the Source Clipboard 
putting the whole entry in the Source Detail text and making up the 
Source Detail with a combination of some of what I've copied and boiler 
text I have previously saved in the M8 clipboard which shows in a 
different column.
Then I enter the data again just pasting the relevant dates and names 
from the M8 clipboard and source it all with the Source Clipboard that 
I've set up.
So I only have to look at my source on FindMyPast once rather than go to 
and fro - and the typing I need to do on data entry is minimal to none.
The M8 clipboard sits where you put it and on top of other windows so is 
easily accessible - or when you're not using it you can minimise it to 
Taskbar or System Tray.


Cathy

Elizabeth Lindsay wrote:


I have Windows 10 and find this problem occurs intermittently with a
number of programs/apps including Outlook, so for me it is not just a
Legacy problem.

To the lady who talked about using M8 Free Clipboard: would you mind
explaining in more detail how you use the program for sourcing. I
thought my system was working well, but now realize that I could do a
lot better if I tried the clipboard.

Thanks,

Elizabeth

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Brian
Lightfoot
*Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:56 AM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been
around since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen
mode with Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half.
But whenever I have to resize the Legacy window, it takes several
mouse attempts with it just springing back to its original size. In
other words, the resizing attempt does not stick until the 3^rd or
4^th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but merely annoying.
Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It has
nothing to do with Windows 10.

Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of
*Richard Van Wasshnova
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold
the mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to
the original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop
sliding the mouse.

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the
button and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits
this problem.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin
mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the
process is not fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes
by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

Am I the only one to see this problem?

Georges


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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Ian Thomas
I have none of these problems (see Brian’s post below; all other posts trimmed 
off). There has been an occasional slowness in redrawing all the screen 
components in Legacy – but I believe that is related to memory leaks in 
Internet Explorer 11 when I have an excessive number of browser windows open in 
it. That is not unique to Windows 10, either. 

I have Windows 10 Professional 64-bit installed on this older computer, on an 
SSD (solid state) drive. 

It may be that despite its age (assembled in January 2012 – certainly not with 
the “latest” components as I could not afford them), it has quite good graphics 
and memory (RAM). 

I use Legacy v8.0 Deluxe. I can use the mouse to grab it from any corner or 
side and resize, etc. That happens quickly, no flickers or movements out of my 
control. I have no complaints.  

As a software application (leaving aside its purpose and functionality), Legacy 
is not at all demanding on Windows or hardware. 

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

 

[my modest 2012-assembled, mid-cost computer: Asus F1A75-V PRO desktop 
motherboard, AMD Fusion A8-3870 FM1 3GHZ QuadCore CPU,

16GB Kingston 1333MHz DDR3 memory, Crucial 250GB SSD (added July 2015), several 
additional 2Tb/3Tb HDD, Dell 2007WFP monitor. ] 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 5:44 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

The full size window is not the problem (just click the gadget in the upper 
right corner). But try making your Legacy window take up only the left half of 
your monitor screen. Click the gadget in the upper right of a full size Legacy 
window (if you hold your mouse over the gadget which looks like 2 sheets of 
paper it will read out as “Restore Down”). Now, regardless of what size Legacy 
automatically resized down to, try to change that size by moving the mouse on 
an edge of the Legacy window until the cursor changes to a double ended arrow 
and then click and hold down the mouse button dragging that edge to somewhere 
you want for the resized window. Release the mouse button and you expect the 
newly resized window to remain there but the chances are that it will spring 
back to where it was before. It may take 3 or 4 attempts until it sticks.

 

Try that same resizing movement on the windows of other applications and you 
may notice that they tend to stick when the mouse is released without springing 
back to its previous position.

 

As I said before, it’s not a critical error…just annoying for those users that 
want a custom size window from time to time.

 

Brian in CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Bob Austen
I use Windows 10.  It would seem that the sizing 'issue' is only with
Legacy.  All other windows will size smoothly (for me) without any 'snap
back'.  It doesn't matter if I have Windows Snap turned off or on. To me it
is not an issue after the initial setup - I don't bother to change the
window size.  

 

I also have a dual monitor setup (scrimped on the pizza) and have no issues
with smooth movement between monitors.  A note here - if you are going to
dual monitors get two the same if you can manage it.  I have two Samsung 24"
monitors but one is older, with a slightly different aspect ratio, so a
widow on one won't size properly on the second.

 

Bob Austen

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 6:11 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

Everybody's RAM is "solid state". For what it's worth, I recently switched
to a new system using M.2 PCI drives (SSD) instead of HDDs yet the springy
resizing problem continued. I've gotten a few emails from others who claim
they have no problems. I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't with the
mouse or more properly, the mouse driver. I've always used a Logitech mouse
but as far as I know the window resizing thing is a Windows functionality.
Legacy only stores the coordinates of the last window in one of its users
files. But you'd think that if it is a mouse issue, then the problem would
be typical across all applications. Oh well, there are more pressing issues
to deal with.

 

I've been wanting to go to a dual monitor setup for a few months now but
until my existing monitor shows signs of faulty display, I'm stuck with
using a split window setup. Well, not really stuck. I could always just
throw out the existing and bite the bullet by purchasing two new ones. But
I've got better things to do with my money like pizza, more pizza, etc.

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

Interestingly, I have none of the problems mentioned. I wonder if memory and
RAM is an issue. Mine is all solid state = instantaneous.

 

CE

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of
Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? 

 

I find it particular bad when moving the window between monitors, esp
if I'm not patient enough to let the window fully open!

FireFox doesn't behave correctly either. It gets real jerky moving it about.

Win10

Sherry



On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Cliff Gittens
 wrote:
> I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only
> started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy
> window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking
> only 1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the
> window down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to
the
> 1/4 size.
>
> I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.
>
> Cliff Gittens
>
> bkalm@

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Ila East




Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Sherry  wrote:
> 
> I find it particular bad when moving the window between monitors, esp
> if I'm not patient enough to let the window fully open!
> 
> FireFox doesn't behave correctly either. It gets real jerky moving it about.
> 
> Win10
> 
> Sherry
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Cliff Gittens
>  wrote:
>> I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only
>> started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy
>> window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking
>> only 1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the
>> window down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to the
>> 1/4 size.
>> 
>> I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.
>> 
>> Cliff Gittens
>> 
>> bkalm@
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Gene Young

On 9/27/2016 6:09 PM, Cliff Gittens wrote:

I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only 
started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy 
window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking only 
1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the window 
down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to the 1/4 size.

I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.

Cliff Gittens


bk...@comcast.net 
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 1:41 PM
I have the same problem when I try to resize my Legacy screen!




If you drag it to a corner it will size to the corner.  Drag to the center of 
the side and it will snap to half size and present the option of selecting 
another window to snap to the opposite side.  The position of the cursor when 
it reaches the side determines the action.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Brian Lightfoot
Everybody's RAM is "solid state". For what it's worth, I recently switched
to a new system using M.2 PCI drives (SSD) instead of HDDs yet the springy
resizing problem continued. I've gotten a few emails from others who claim
they have no problems. I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't with the
mouse or more properly, the mouse driver. I've always used a Logitech mouse
but as far as I know the window resizing thing is a Windows functionality.
Legacy only stores the coordinates of the last window in one of its users
files. But you'd think that if it is a mouse issue, then the problem would
be typical across all applications. Oh well, there are more pressing issues
to deal with.

 

I've been wanting to go to a dual monitor setup for a few months now but
until my existing monitor shows signs of faulty display, I'm stuck with
using a split window setup. Well, not really stuck. I could always just
throw out the existing and bite the bullet by purchasing two new ones. But
I've got better things to do with my money like pizza, more pizza, etc.

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

Interestingly, I have none of the problems mentioned. I wonder if memory and
RAM is an issue. Mine is all solid state = instantaneous.

 

CE

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Sherry 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? 

 

I find it particular bad when moving the window between monitors, esp
if I'm not patient enough to let the window fully open!

FireFox doesn't behave correctly either. It gets real jerky moving it about.

Win10

Sherry



On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Cliff Gittens
 wrote:
> I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only
> started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy
> window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking
> only 1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the
> window down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to
the
> 1/4 size.
>
> I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.
>
> Cliff Gittens
>
> bkalm@

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread CE WOOD
Interestingly, I have none of the problems mentioned. I wonder if memory and 
RAM is an issue. Mine is all solid state = instantaneous.


CE


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I find it particular bad when moving the window between monitors, esp
if I'm not patient enough to let the window fully open!

FireFox doesn't behave correctly either. It gets real jerky moving it about.

Win10

Sherry



On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Cliff Gittens
 wrote:
> I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only
> started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy
> window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking
> only 1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the
> window down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to the
> 1/4 size.
>
> I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.
>
> Cliff Gittens
>
> bkalm@

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Sherry
I find it particular bad when moving the window between monitors, esp
if I'm not patient enough to let the window fully open!

FireFox doesn't behave correctly either. It gets real jerky moving it about.

Win10

Sherry



On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Cliff Gittens
 wrote:
> I also experience the same window sizing problem with Legacy.  It has only
> started since I upgraded to W10.  I notice it most after I snap the Legacy
> window to one side of the screen.  Legacy then by itself reshapes taking
> only 1/4 of the screen area.  No matter how many times you try to drag the
> window down to take up a full 1/2 of the screen it just snaps back up to the
> 1/4 size.
>
> I just don't use the split screen as I now have a second monitor.
>
> Cliff Gittens
>
> bkalm@

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Leonard J. McCown
Thanks Brian! Works like a charm. Leonard

 

­

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:44 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

The full size window is not the problem (just click the gadget in the upper 
right corner). But try making your Legacy window take up only the left half of 
your monitor screen. Click the gadget in the upper right of a full size Legacy 
window (if you hold your mouse over the gadget which looks like 2 sheets of 
paper it will read out as “Restore Down”). Now, regardless of what size Legacy 
automatically resized down to, try to change that size by moving the mouse on 
an edge of the Legacy window until the cursor changes to a double ended arrow 
and then click and hold down the mouse button dragging that edge to somewhere 
you want for the resized window. Release the mouse button and you expect the 
newly resized window to remain there but the chances are that it will spring 
back to where it was before. It may take 3 or 4 attempts until it sticks.

 

Try that same resizing movement on the windows of other applications and you 
may notice that they tend to stick when the mouse is released without springing 
back to its previous position.

 

As I said before, it’s not a critical error…just annoying for those users that 
want a custom size window from time to time.

 

 

Brian in CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread John Francis
As someone has said before, the trick seems to be to release the mouse 
button as soon as you reach the size you want. And that really means 
immediately! Any pause, and the window reverts to its original size.


Hope this helps.

John Francis in Suffolk, UK

On 27/09/2016 20:44, Brian Lightfoot wrote:


The full size window is not the problem (just click the gadget in the 
upper right corner). But try making your Legacy window take up only 
the left half of your monitor screen. Click the gadget in the upper 
right of a full size Legacy window (if you hold your mouse over the 
gadget which looks like 2 sheets of paper it will read out as “Restore 
Down”). Now, regardless of what size Legacy automatically resized down 
to, try to change that size by moving the mouse on an edge of the 
Legacy window until the cursor changes to a double ended arrow and 
then click and hold down the mouse button dragging that edge to 
somewhere you want for the resized window. Release the mouse button 
and you expect the newly resized window to remain there but the 
chances are that it will spring back to where it was before. It may 
take 3 or 4 attempts until it sticks.


Try that same resizing movement on the windows of other applications 
and you may notice that they tend to stick when the mouse is released 
without springing back to its previous position.


As I said before, it’s not a critical error…just annoying for those 
users that want a custom size window from time to time.


Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Joyce 
Herzog

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:25 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I use Legacy 8 on my 19" monitor full size, and my browser fll size on 
my main 21" monitor. Running on Win10. :D.


Joyce

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Brian Lightfoot 
mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com>> wrote:


I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been 
around since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen 
mode with Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. 
But whenever I have to resize the Legacy window, it takes several 
mouse attempts with it just springing back to its original size. In 
other words, the resizing attempt does not stick until the 3^rd or 
4^th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but merely annoying. 
Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It has 
nothing to do with Windows 10.


Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] *On Behalf Of 
*Richard Van Wasshnova

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold 
the mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to 
the original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop 
sliding the mouse.


I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the 
button and it stays there. Both are Win 10.


The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits 
this problem.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin 
mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the 
process is not fluid as it is with other programs.


There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes 
by step.


It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

Am I the only one to see this problem?

Georges







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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Brian Lightfoot
The full size window is not the problem (just click the gadget in the upper 
right corner). But try making your Legacy window take up only the left half of 
your monitor screen. Click the gadget in the upper right of a full size Legacy 
window (if you hold your mouse over the gadget which looks like 2 sheets of 
paper it will read out as “Restore Down”). Now, regardless of what size Legacy 
automatically resized down to, try to change that size by moving the mouse on 
an edge of the Legacy window until the cursor changes to a double ended arrow 
and then click and hold down the mouse button dragging that edge to somewhere 
you want for the resized window. Release the mouse button and you expect the 
newly resized window to remain there but the chances are that it will spring 
back to where it was before. It may take 3 or 4 attempts until it sticks.

 

Try that same resizing movement on the windows of other applications and you 
may notice that they tend to stick when the mouse is released without springing 
back to its previous position.

 

As I said before, it’s not a critical error…just annoying for those users that 
want a custom size window from time to time.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Joyce Herzog
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I use Legacy 8 on my 19" monitor full size, and my browser fll size on my main 
21" monitor. Running on Win10. :D.

Joyce

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Brian Lightfoot  
wrote:

I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been around 
since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode with 
Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But whenever I have 
to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse attempts with it just 
springing back to its original size. In other words, the resizing attempt does 
not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but 
merely annoying. Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It 
has nothing to do with Windows 10.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the 
mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the original 
size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the mouse.

 

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the button 
and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

 

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits this 
problem.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin  
wrote:

Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process is not 
fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

 

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

 

Am I the only one to see this problem?

 

Georges 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Joyce Herzog
I use Legacy 8 on my 19" monitor full size, and my browser fll size on my
main 21" monitor. Running on Win10. :D.

Joyce

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Brian Lightfoot 
wrote:

> I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been
> around since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode
> with Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But
> whenever I have to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse
> attempts with it just springing back to its original size. In other words,
> the resizing attempt does not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt.
> Certainly not life threatening but merely annoying. Legacy is the only
> application that exhibits this behavior. It has nothing to do with Windows
> 10.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Van Wasshnova
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?
>
>
>
> I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the
> mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the
> original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the
> mouse.
>
>
>
> I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the
> button and it stays there. Both are Win 10.
>
>
>
> The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits
> this problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin <
> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process
> is not fluid as it is with other programs.
>
> There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by
> step.
>
> It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.
>
>
>
> There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.
>
>
>
> Am I the only one to see this problem?
>
>
>
> Georges
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

2016-09-27 Thread Elizabeth Lindsay
I have Windows 10 and find this problem occurs intermittently with a number of 
programs/apps including Outlook, so for me it is not just a Legacy problem.

 

To the lady who talked about using M8 Free Clipboard: would you mind explaining 
in more detail how you use the program for sourcing. I thought my system was 
working well, but now realize that I could do a lot better if I tried the 
clipboard. 

 

Thanks,

Elizabeth

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been around 
since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode with 
Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But whenever I have 
to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse attempts with it just 
springing back to its original size. In other words, the resizing attempt does 
not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but 
merely annoying. Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It 
has nothing to do with Windows 10.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the 
mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the original 
size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the mouse.

 

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the button 
and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

 

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits this 
problem.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process is not 
fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

 

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

 

Am I the only one to see this problem?

 

Georges 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Brian Lightfoot
I recall that annoyance with resizing the Legacy window as having been around 
since at least Legacy version 7. I typically use a split screen mode with 
Legacy taking up ½ and a browser window on the other half. But whenever I have 
to resize the Legacy window, it takes several mouse attempts with it just 
springing back to its original size. In other words, the resizing attempt does 
not stick until the 3rd or 4th attempt. Certainly not life threatening but 
merely annoying. Legacy is the only application that exhibits this behavior. It 
has nothing to do with Windows 10.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

 

I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the 
mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the original 
size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the mouse.

 

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the button 
and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

 

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits this 
problem.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin  
wrote:

Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process is not 
fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

 

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

 

Am I the only one to see this problem?

 

Georges 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Leon Chapman
I see the same thing on several Windows 10 machines.
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin  wrote:

> Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process
> is not fluid as it is with other programs.
>
> There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by
> step.
>
> It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.
>
>
>
> There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.
>
>
>
> Am I the only one to see this problem?
>
>
>
> Georges
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
I've noticed when resizing Legacy with the mouse on the edge if I hold the
mouse button down after I stop sliding up or down it jumps back to the
original size. I have to release the button as soon as I stop sliding the
mouse.

I just checked my laptop and it resizes OK. I can resize and hold the
button and it stays there. Both are Win 10.

The desktop computer resizes other programs fine, Only Legacy exhibits this
problem.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Georges Sarrazin  wrote:

> Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process
> is not fluid as it is with other programs.
>
> There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by
> step.
>
> It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.
>
>
>
> There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.
>
>
>
> Am I the only one to see this problem?
>
>
>
> Georges
>
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[LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10?

2016-09-27 Thread Georges Sarrazin
Under Windows 10, when ones tries to go to a smaller window, the process is not 
fluid as it is with other programs.

There is a time delay and the passage from one level to the other goes by step.

It is the same thing with both v8 and v9.

 

There seems to be a sort of incompatibility between Windows 10 and Legacy.

 

Am I the only one to see this problem?

 

Georges 

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