RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
In the census records, the LDS uses the places the Census Bureau used. I have a few spots where the taker got the location off a bit. Ex: used township when in an actual incorporated city. Also have the reverse, where the place is unincorporated so should use the township. But I know these places, so I ignore the varients and 'note' the details. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: > From: Brian L. Lightfoot > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 10:20 AM > I'm one of those that also subscribe > to the concept of using the word County in the appropriate > position. I figured I had to add more definitive info to the > location when I once tried typing in this: "Oklahoma City, > Oklahoma, Oklahoma". You think us Yanks have a problem with > all the "Shires" in England but imagine how that would > confuse anyone from across the pond. > > I also find that FamilySeach.org (the LDS Church) and their > 1880 census transcription use a particular confusing form of > providing locations. For example, take this theoretical > location, "Liberty, Liberty, Iowa". Now, is that the town of > Liberty in Liberty county or is it a rural location in > Liberty Township of Liberty County. There is no way of > knowing for sure and I find myself constantly checking maps > to see if such a town as Liberty would actually exist. I may > end up using a location description of "Liberty Township, > Liberty County, Iowa". > > Brian in CA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian Beddor [mailto:bbed...@japsolson.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:41 AM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > > > > Hi Dave, > > My impression from a Legacy video is that it would > be: > > Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States – without > the word “County”. > > However, if you don’t have anything in the first > position, then one > > adds the word “County” so as to avoid > confusion. So, if one doesn’t > > know the city it would be: > > , Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States – note > there is still the > > leading comma for a place-holder. > > > > I don’t know if this has changed or if it will help > or hurt in Legacy > > 7.4. > > > > Brian (the other Brian) > > > > > > > > > > From: Pat Patton [mailto:davesgeneal...@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:55 PM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > > > > I have completed the recommended changes to my Master > Location List (as > > described by Geoff) but I still have the following > comma-delimited > > string question(s): > > > > Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United > States > > > > Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from > "Lawrence County"? > > > i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, > United States > > > 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 > Geo-Code > > efforts? > > > > Dave > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
> > A location should be the location as written in the country where it is > situated, at the time in question, and not corrupted in order to fit into an > artificial 20th century attempt to prove that the earth is flat. > > Ron Ferguson > > _ Well said Ron. I was pretty much doing what you suggest until the latest version of Legacy was released. My concern was that not standardizing the locations correctly would result in Legacy 7.4 not working properly/optimally with FamilySearch. Geoff has given me reassurance that version 7.5 will help with any "issues" I may have with my location list. Stan _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
Stan, Forget the American 4 field system with its horrendous commas, and rules totally unsutable for Ireland and the UK! Write your locations as you would do in Ireland, so the correct name for the county of Clare would be County Clare, full stop. period! I don't know a place called ", , , United States", do you? Forgetting the minor point that it is the United States of America, simply leave the commas out; any map will find the USA without those commas. Don't worry about the Geo*Codes, just use a decent Gazetter, or if your want the latitude and longitude use Google Maps, or even Bing which Legacy uses. A location should be the location as written in the country where it is situated, at the time in question, and not corrupted in order to fit into an artificial 20th century attempt to prove that the earth is flat. Ron Ferguson _ Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ smegraw wrote: > I have a couple of similar questions. Now that Legacy 7.4 has arrived > I've started paying closer attention to how my locations are named. > > 1. If only a country is known, should the location be ", , , United > States"? > > 2. I have Irish locations (e.g. Co. Down) and Canadian locations > (Bruce Co.). Does the "Co." need to be eliminated? How should the > Geo*Codes.txt file(s) be modified to accommodate "Co." before or > after a county name, depending on the country? > > > Stan > > > > From: davesgeneal...@hotmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:54:32 -0700 > > > > I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List > (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following > comma-delimited string question(s): > > Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States > > Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? > i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States > 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code > efforts? > > Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
I'm one of those that also subscribe to the concept of using the word County in the appropriate position. I figured I had to add more definitive info to the location when I once tried typing in this: "Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Oklahoma". You think us Yanks have a problem with all the "Shires" in England but imagine how that would confuse anyone from across the pond. I also find that FamilySeach.org (the LDS Church) and their 1880 census transcription use a particular confusing form of providing locations. For example, take this theoretical location, "Liberty, Liberty, Iowa". Now, is that the town of Liberty in Liberty county or is it a rural location in Liberty Township of Liberty County. There is no way of knowing for sure and I find myself constantly checking maps to see if such a town as Liberty would actually exist. I may end up using a location description of "Liberty Township, Liberty County, Iowa". Brian in CA > -Original Message- > From: Brian Beddor [mailto:bbed...@japsolson.com] > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:41 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > > Hi Dave, > My impression from a Legacy video is that it would be: > Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States – without the word “County”. > However, if you don’t have anything in the first position, then one > adds the word “County” so as to avoid confusion. So, if one doesn’t > know the city it would be: > , Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States – note there is still the > leading comma for a place-holder. > > I don’t know if this has changed or if it will help or hurt in Legacy > 7.4. > > Brian (the other Brian) > > > > > From: Pat Patton [mailto:davesgeneal...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:55 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 > > I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List (as > described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited > string question(s): > > Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States > > Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? > i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States > 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code > efforts? > > Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
Stan, We're developing tools that will help you "link" your existing Legacy place to a "standardized FamilySearch" place, which means that one wouldn't have to change any of their places now. When 7.5 is available, you'd be able to match them. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: smegraw [mailto:smeg...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 I have a couple of similar questions. Now that Legacy 7.4 has arrived I've started paying closer attention to how my locations are named. 1. If only a country is known, should the location be ", , , United States"? 2. I have Irish locations (e.g. Co. Down) and Canadian locations (Bruce Co.). Does the "Co." need to be eliminated? How should the Geo*Codes.txt file(s) be modified to accommodate "Co." before or after a county name, depending on the country? Stan From: davesgeneal...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:54:32 -0700 I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited string question(s): Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code efforts? Dave _ Check your Hotmail from your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708121 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
I have a couple of similar questions. Now that Legacy 7.4 has arrived I've started paying closer attention to how my locations are named. 1. If only a country is known, should the location be ", , , United States"? 2. I have Irish locations (e.g. Co. Down) and Canadian locations (Bruce Co.). Does the "Co." need to be eliminated? How should the Geo*Codes.txt file(s) be modified to accommodate "Co." before or after a county name, depending on the country? Stan From: davesgeneal...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:54:32 -0700 I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited string question(s): Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code efforts? Dave _ Check your Hotmail from your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708121 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
Hi Dave, My impression from a Legacy video is that it would be: Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States – without the word “County”. However, if you don’t have anything in the first position, then one adds the word “County” so as to avoid confusion. So, if one doesn’t know the city it would be: , Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States – note there is still the leading comma for a place-holder. I don’t know if this has changed or if it will help or hurt in Legacy 7.4. Brian (the other Brian) From: Pat Patton [mailto:davesgeneal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4 I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited string question(s): Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code efforts? Dave Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
On 31 Jan 2010 Alan Jones wrote: > it is my understanding that Legacy has never liked the word County in > there. I came from a program that actually suggested putting Co. at the > end of every county and I really liked that as it was more specific. > I wish Legacy was nicer about that. Legacy by default is programmed to not have "County" or "Co." in the field where users write the county name for USA locations. However this is a user- selectable item and Millennia has provided a way, albeit not obvious, for users that wish otherwise to have their choice. I have arranged Legacy to function with " Co." after county names and have absolutely no problems running Legacy this way. To get this feature and change the default it is necessary to make a copy of Legacy's GeoExtraCodes.txt file and name it to GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt Then edit that Alt file in a text editor (e.g. NotePad), following the instructions at the beginning of the file, to obtain the choice you'd like. There are messages in the archives detailing this procedure, or if you wish, get back here for further details. Cheers, -- Dave N. -- David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. --- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
Your understanding may be incorrect. I use the word County in my locations - it does not cause any problems in Legacy that I've ever encountered in over 2 years of use. The mapping finds my locations without any problem. I don't really pay much attention to the Geo Locations since the mapping was added but before that County did not cause any problem for me in Geo Locations either. Linda M. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Alan Jones wrote: > > Dave, > > it is my understanding that Legacy has never liked the word County in > there. I came from a program that actually suggested putting Co. at the end > of every county and I really liked that as it was more specific. > > I wish Legacy was nicer about that. > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
Dave, it is my understanding that Legacy has never liked the word County in there. I came from a program that actually suggested putting Co. at the end of every county and I really liked that as it was more specific. I wish Legacy was nicer about that. On 1/31/2010 3:54 PM, Pat Patton wrote: > I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List > (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited > string question(s): > > Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States > > Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? > i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States > 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code efforts? > > Dave > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Master Location List 7.4
I have completed the recommended changes to my Master Location List (as described by Geoff) but I still have the following comma-delimited string question(s): Example: Alicia, Lawrence County, Arkansas, United States Questions: 1) Should "County" be removed from "Lawrence County"? i.e. Alicia, Lawrence, Arkansas, United States 2) Will this help or hinder Legacy 7.4 Geo-Code efforts? Dave _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
