Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[C. DeLay]

I have several sources for obituaries. If it's a newspaper, I cite the
paper as my main source and the obituary itself in details. If it's the
funeral home website, then I cite the website as the main with the
individual in the detail (I also copy the specific page web address and
include that in the detail comment), and finally, I have recently been able
to get large numbers of obituaries from binders held by a historical
society. I made a master source for the binders (complete with information
about the depository) and then add all the information in the details.

For those binders, most of the time it also lists the name of the paper
where the original obituary appeared (they are photo copies) complete with
page/section numbers and as part of my detail comments, I include "citing
name of paper, date, section and page" so that I can either go find the
true original or someone else could. If it doesn't list the original
source, I add a comment to the effect that the original source was not
included. Someone would still be able to get to the document I saw (the
photocopied page in the binder) but it would take someone going to the
society archives in person.

Therefore, I'm a "lumper" but not an extreme one. Hopefully that wasn't too
confusing to follow.

Cynthia DeLay


Laurie G wrote:


Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with
the details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or
does the obitua ry for EACH person belong on the master source list
(such as Smith, Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
Thanks,
Laurie


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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Cathy Pinner]

Laurie,
That's your choice.
I mostly find obituaries in newspapers so I use my Master Source for 
that newspaper.
If I had other sources for obituaries I'd have a Master Source for each 
obituary database.

I guess I'm a partial "lumper" when it comes to Master Sources.
A total "lumper" would have one Master Source regardless of where the 
obituary was from and put the all the information in the Source Detail. 
I don't like doing that as it requires too much repetition in data entry.
A total "splitter" would have one Master Source per obituary and not use 
the Source Detail at all.

Again for me too much repetition in data entry.

Cathy

Laurie G wrote:


Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with
the details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or
does the obituary for EACH person belong on the master source list
(such as Smith, Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
Thanks,
Laurie
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[LegacyUG] master source list

[Laurie G]

Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with the
details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or does the
obituary for EACH person belong on the master source list (such as Smith,
Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
Thanks,
Laurie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source list

[Richard]

I went to view/master lists/source to show all the master sources then 
clicked on options on the right side and then clicked on print. That brings 
you to a print window and you can pick what you want to print. I hope this 
helps.

Rich

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Source citation report to a PDF is what I use.


 ROBIN DUNBAR  wrote:

Hello,

   I want to make a copy of my master source list. The help section didn't 
help 😒  Is there away of doing this??


  RMD




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source list

[Sherry]

Copy for what reason? To use in another Family File? To print out as a
report?

Sherry

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>I want to make a copy of my master source list. The help section didn't
> help 😒  Is there away of doing this??
>
>   RMD
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source list

[dwquigley]

Source citation report to a PDF is what I use.


 ROBIN DUNBAR  wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
>I want to make a copy of my master source list. The help section didn't 
> help 😒  Is there away of doing this??
> 
>   RMD



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[LegacyUG] Master Source list

[ROBIN DUNBAR]

Hello,

   I want to make a copy of my master source list. The help section didn't help 
😒  Is there away of doing this??

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

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Yes, one  document = 1 source, if you consider that I put all the minor 
children under the  Head of Household entry. I then number the document (in 
legacy it's in the  detail screen, under the File ID field), enter it in CLOOZ, 
put it in an acid  free sleeve and file it in a 3 ring binder. If I need to 
make a copy of the  paper it's noted in the citation which I can or can not 
list.
 
An example:
 
Template: family entry; p , lines , Enumeration  District , [city],  
County, [state], Population of Census; (National  Archives Microfilm 
Publication 
T623, roll ); Twelfth Census of the United  States, 1900;  Records of the 
Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29;  National Archives-Washington, D.C. 
 
Template for Ancestry: family entry; p , lines ,  Enumeration District , 
[city],  County, [state] Population of Census;  (National Archives Microfilm 
Publication T623, roll ); Twelfth Census of the  United States, 1900;  
Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29;  National 
Archives-Washington, D.C. Digital images, Ancestry.com, 
http://www.ancestry.com: [date]. 
 
Specific source entry: George E. Varrelmann family  entry 1900 U.S. Census, 
Population Schedule Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY; 178 Amity  St, Volume 64, 
Enumeration District 53, Supervisor's District , sheet 11, lines  72-80, 
dwelling , family  Record Group 29: Records of the Bureau of the  Census, 
Microfilm 
publication T623, Roll 1044 (National Archives, Washington,  DC)
 
My original  source follows the NARA format. 
 
Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist  Emeritus
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Certification of  Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists 
after periodic  competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the 
US Patent &  Trademark Office.




In a message dated 2/26/2016 4:50:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dwquig...@cox.net writes:

 
Marie, 
Can  you give us more details of your sourcing approach?  It sounds like 
you  are a splitter – one document = one source.  Is that  correct? 
 
Donald  Quigley 
Escondido,  CA 
_Quigley  Doyle Family Tree_ (http://www.donquigley.net/)  

 
 
From: LegacyUserGroup  [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of  mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:09  AM
To: c...@westnet.com.au; j...@suplick.name;  legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master  Source List

 

 

 
Having started using  Legacy lng before they had a source maker, I 
created my own templates. All  the sources are entered under the name of the 
person. If I'm using, say  the 1860 census as a source, I just pull up the 
template for the organization  that digitized it for online retrieval, add my 
specifics, and save it as a new  source.
 

 
Marie

Marie  Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
__
CG  or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for 
Certification of  Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists 
after  periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the 
US  Patent & Trademark Office.



 
 
In a message dated  2/25/2016 6:57:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_...@westnet.com.au_ (mailto:c...@westnet.com.au)   writes:

Also  a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type.  

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does  TNG 
really force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be  
attaching the image to the event rather than the source.

No problem  finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source  detail. When I do, I know what people are 
involved so can find the Source  Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. 
However, it's usually the Source  Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked 
out 
another bit of the  transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do that.

Then there  is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
using the  source.

Cathy

Jean Suplick  wrote:



As  a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
t  ype, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and  christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth  certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US  Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32  PM, Don Quigley <_dwquig...@cox.net  
<mailto:dwquigley@cox.net_ 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Marie,

 

Can you give us more details of your sourcing approach?  It sounds like you are 
a splitter – one document = one source.  Is that correct?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:09 AM
To: c...@westnet.com.au; j...@suplick.name; legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

 

 

Having started using Legacy lng before they had a source maker, I created 
my own templates. All the sources are entered under the name of the person. If 
I'm using, say the 1860 census as a source, I just pull up the template for the 
organization that digitized it for online retrieval, add my specifics, and save 
it as a new source.

 

 Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
__
CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of 
Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after periodic 
competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & 
Trademark Office.
 

 

In a message dated 2/25/2016 6:57:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
c...@westnet.com.au <mailto:c...@westnet.com.au>  writes:

Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type. 

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG really 
force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be attaching the 
image to the event rather than the source.

No problem finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are involved 
so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. However, it's 
usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked out another bit 
of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do that.

Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
using the source.

Cathy

Jean Suplick wrote:




As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
t ype, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net%20%0b%3cmailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
<mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?

__ __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
for editing or citation selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.

__ __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__ __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>




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[LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Jane Linkswiler]

I fall somewhere between a Splitter and a Grouper. My Master Source List is
listed either under a location or a Family Name (I call my branches after my
grandparent's names and my husband's grandparents names). For census I have
Master Sources by State-County-Town or, if a different country than USA,
Country-(and divisions) and use detail to differentiate. That way I can
easily see a list of people in each place. I do the same with Tax info,
Marriage Records, Probate..anything that is located by place. Any books or
articles I have about a place..filed in the place. Any books, articles or
notes about any family..under the Family name. Makes the most sense to my
mind.

 

And, by the way, hello Cathy Pinner! Been a long time. Since the 2008 Legacy
Northern European Capitols Cruise, in fact.

 

Jane

Jane in Phoenix

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[MVMcgrs]

Having  started using Legacy lng before they had a source maker, I 
created my own  templates. All the sources are entered under the name of the 
person. If I'm  using, say the 1860 census as a source, I just pull up the 
template for the  organization that digitized it for online retrieval, add my 
specifics, and save  it as a new source.
 
 Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist  Emeritus
__
CG  or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for 
Certification of  Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists 
after periodic  competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the 
US Patent &  Trademark Office.




In a message dated 2/25/2016 6:57:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
c...@westnet.com.au writes:

Also a  lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type.  

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does  TNG 
really force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be  
attaching the image to the event rather than the source.

No problem  finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail.  When I do, I know what people are 
involved so can find the Source Detail on  their Assigned Sources pages. 
However, it's usually the Source Detail Text I  need to amend as I've worked 
out 
another bit of the transcription - and I use  Search and Replace to do that.

Then there is Show List for the Master  Source to give you a list of people 
using the source.

Cathy

Jean  Suplick wrote:


As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I  name them based on 
t ype, location, and title. Works for  me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950  (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth  certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US  Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM,  Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>>  wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy  users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or  selecting for a citation?

__  __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names  with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks  Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which  is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That  makes
fi nding the source easy, but a list of all  source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks  “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
text after  the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in  data
entry.  But then it seems much harder to  find particular sources
for editing or citation  selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File  ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve  my problem).  But
until that happens I’m looking  for ideas from other users.

__  __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for  “primary” source
information and attached media (ie,  no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media  attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__  __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Cathy,

 

A lot of TNG users do attach their media to the events.  But I prefer to attach 
the media to the source because the source can be used for multiple “data 
items” – ie, a census typically has names, relationships, occupations, birth 
date & place, residence, etc.   I want to be able to jump directly to the 
source & media from any of the “data items.”  I do attach photograph to 
photograph events, in addition to the sources for the photos.

 

But – as we all have learned – whatever works best for each of us is the way we 
choose to go.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:41 PM
To: j...@suplick.name; Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type. 

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG really 
force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be attaching the 
image to the event rather than the source.

No problem finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are involved 
so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. However, it's 
usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked out another bit 
of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do that.

Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
using the source.

Cathy

Jean Suplick wrote:




As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
t ype, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net%20%0b%3cmailto:dwquig...@cox.net> 
<mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?

__ __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
for editing or citation selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.

__ __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__ __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/>

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Linda Greethurst]

I'm an even bigger lumper:

For the source:
Federal Census

And then in the details:
1920 Iowa, Polk County, (and then all the rest of the details)

Linda Greethurst
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Pat Hickin]

I periodically do a .pdf of my sources and then search the .pdf -- quick
and easy to find what you're looking for.

Pat

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type.
>
> Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG
> really force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be
> attaching the image to the event rather than the source.
>
> No problem finding the Master Source quickly.
>
> I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are
> involved so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages.
> However, it's usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked
> out another bit of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do
> that.
>
> Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people
> using the source.
>
> Cathy
>
> Jean Suplick wrote:
>
>
> As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on
> t ype, location, and title. Works for me.
>
> Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
> Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
> Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
> US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley  > wrote:
>
> Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
> Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?
>
> __ __
>
> I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
> “2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
> Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
> 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
> fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
> alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
> text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
> visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
> entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
> for editing or citation selection.
>
> __ __
>
> I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
> ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
> until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.
>
> __ __
>
> One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
> information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
> won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
> Detail Information and Text/Comments.
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Anne Lo Forte Willson]

I think I'm what you call a lumper.  I source from largest location to 
smallest. I've been a little frustrated because the Legacy program wants more 
detailed locations in some cases than the databases warrant. I've altered my 
manner of sourcing to add a lot of the location information in the details 
instead of the Master source.

Anne

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
> 
> Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type. 
> 
> Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG 
> really force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be 
> attaching the image to the event rather than the source.
> 
> No problem finding the Master Source quickly.
> 
> I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are 
> involved so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. 
> However, it's usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've worked 
> out another bit of the transcription - and I use Search and Replace to do 
> that.
> 
> Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of people 
> using the source.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> Jean Suplick wrote:
>> 
>> As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on 
>> t ype, location, and title. Works for me.
>> 
>> Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
>> Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
>> Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
>> US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
>> Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?
>> 
>> __ __
>> 
>> I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
>> “2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
>> Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
>> 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
>> fi nding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
>> alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the
>> text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
>> visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
>> entry.  But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
>> for editing or citation selection.
>> 
>> __ __
>> 
>> I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
>> ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But
>> until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.
>> 
>> __ __
>> 
>> One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
>> information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
>> won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
>> Detail Information and Text/Comments.
>> 
>> __ __
>> 
>> Donald Quigley
>> 
>> Escondido, CA
>> 
>> Quigley Doyle Family Tree 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Cathy Pinner]

Also a lumper for most things with Source List Names organised by type.

Certainly not a Master Source for every household in a census. Does TNG 
really force that if you want to include the image? If it does, I'd be 
attaching the image to the event rather than the source.


No problem finding the Master Source quickly.

I rarely need to edit source detail. When I do, I know what people are 
involved so can find the Source Detail on their Assigned Sources pages. 
However, it's usually the Source Detail Text I need to amend as I've 
worked out another bit of the transcription - and I use Search and 
Replace to do that.


Then there is Show List for the Master Source to give you a list of 
people using the source.


Cathy

Jean Suplick wrote:


As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on
type, location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley mailto:dwquig...@cox.net>> wrote:

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a
Master Source for editing or selecting for a citation?

__ __

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex.
“2423 – 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott
Families” – which is also part of the attached media name – ex.
2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes
finding the source easy, but a list of all source names, sorted
alpha-numerically, looks “helter-skelter.” When sorted by the
text after the File ID, the source names are better organized and
visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data
entry. But then it seems much harder to find particular sources
for editing or citation selection.

__ __

I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID”
ability would be very useful (and it would solve my problem). But
until that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.

__ __

One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source
information and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website
won’t “see” media attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the
Detail Information and Text/Comments.

__ __

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Arnold,

 

With your system, how do you then quickly find a specific Source Detail for
editing, attaching a revised/new media file, etc.?

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

 <http://www.donquigley.net/> Quigley Doyle Family Tree

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Arnold Sprague
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:51 AM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

 

Don,
I am an unimaginative LUMPER. Here are some samples:

Book: Bio. - Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge - American Patron of Music
Book: Misc. - Notable American Women - The Modern Period
Cemetery: MN, Ramsey, St. Paul, Resurrection Cemetery
Census/U.S. Federal: 1910
Informant: Milstead, Claudia
Newspaper / U.S. / IL: Chicago Daily Tribune
Place / U.S.A. / MA: Billerica, Vital Records of, to the Year 1850
Surname / Phelps: Phelps Family of Amer & Eng Ancestors

Thus all books, cemeteries, places, surnames, and on, appear
grouped. Lets me do the "quickly find" thing you mention below..
  Arnold Sprague



At 11:32 AM 2/24/2016, you wrote:



Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_NextPart_000_004F_01D16EEE.99273390"
Content-Language: en-us

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
for editing or selecting for a citation?
 
I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID - ex. "2423 -
1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA - Three Scott Families" - which
is also part of the attached media name - ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I'm a
splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a list of
all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks "helter-skelter."  When
sorted by the text after the File ID, the source names are better organized
and visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data entry.  But
then it seems much harder to find particular sources for editing or citation
selection.
 
I've suggested to the Legacy folks that a "search by File ID" ability would
be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that happens I'm
looking for ideas from other users.
 
One caveat - I can't use source details for "primary" source information and
attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won't "see" media attached
to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
Text/Comments.
 
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family Tree <http://www.donquigley.net/> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Jean Suplick]

As a lumper, I do something similar to Arnold. I name them based on type,
location, and title. Works for me.

Births-IA-Births and christenings, 1830-1950 (FamilySearch)
Births-MD-Dept. of Health birth certificates
Newspapers-IL-Illinois State Journal (GenealogyBank)
US Federal Census-1850-OH-Carroll Co.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Don Quigley  wrote:

> Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
> for editing or selecting for a citation?
>
>
>
> I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex. “2423 –
> 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott Families” –
> which is also part of the attached media name – ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously
> I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a
> list of all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks
> “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the text after the File ID, the source
> names are better organized and visually useful in finding typos and
> inconsistencies in data entry.  But then it seems much harder to find
> particular sources for editing or citation selection.
>
>
>
> I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID” ability
> would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that
> happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.
>
>
>
> One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source information
> and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won’t “see” media
> attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
> Text/Comments.
>
>
>
> Donald Quigley
>
> Escondido, CA
>
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Linda Hodges]

I name my master sources by state, county, then year..   Ohio,
stark, 1920 US census
Ohio, stark, 1865 State Census
Etc...keeps them grouped together by location then by year
On Feb 24, 2016 1:38 PM, "Don Quigley"  wrote:

> Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
> for editing or selecting for a citation?
>
>
>
> I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex. “2423 –
> 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott Families” –
> which is also part of the attached media name – ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously
> I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a
> list of all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks
> “helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the text after the File ID, the source
> names are better organized and visually useful in finding typos and
> inconsistencies in data entry.  But then it seems much harder to find
> particular sources for editing or citation selection.
>
>
>
> I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID” ability
> would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that
> happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.
>
>
>
> One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source information
> and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won’t “see” media
> attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
> Text/Comments.
>
>
>
> Donald Quigley
>
> Escondido, CA
>
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Arnold Sprague]

Don,
I am an
unimaginative LUMPER. Here are some samples:
Book: Bio. - Elizabeth Sprague Coolidge - American Patron of Music
Book: Misc. - Notable American Women - The Modern Period
Cemetery: MN, Ramsey, St. Paul, Resurrection Cemetery
Census/U.S. Federal: 1910
Informant: Milstead, Claudia
Newspaper / U.S. / IL: Chicago Daily Tribune
Place / U.S.A. / MA: Billerica, Vital Records of, to the Year 1850
Surname / Phelps: Phelps Family of Amer & Eng Ancestors
Thus all
books, cemeteries, places, surnames, and on, appear grouped. Lets me do
the "quickly find" thing you mention below..
 
Arnold Sprague

At 11:32 AM 2/24/2016, you wrote:
Content-Type:
multipart/alternative;

boundary="=_NextPart_000_004F_01D16EEE.99273390"
Content-Language: en-us
Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master
Source for editing or selecting for a citation?
 
I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID – ex. “2423
– 1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA – Three Scott Families” –
which is also part of the attached media name – ex. 2423_IMG.jpg
(obviously I’m a splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source
easy, but a list of all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks
“helter-skelter.”  When sorted by the text after the File ID, the
source names are better organized and visually useful in finding typos
and inconsistencies in data entry.  But then it seems much harder to
find particular sources for editing or citation selection.
 
I’ve suggested to the Legacy folks that a “search by File ID” ability
would be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until
that happens I’m looking for ideas from other users.
 
One caveat – I can’t use source details for “primary” source information
and attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won’t “see” media
attached to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
Text/Comments.
 
Donald Quigley
Escondido, CA
Quigley Doyle Family
Tree



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[LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Don Quigley]

Curiosity question: How do other Legacy users quickly find a Master Source
for editing or selecting for a citation?

 

I have always prefixed my Source List Names with the File ID - ex. "2423 -
1920 US Census, Parks Bar Twp., Yuba Co., CA - Three Scott Families" - which
is also part of the attached media name - ex. 2423_IMG.jpg (obviously I'm a
splitter, not a lumper). That makes finding the source easy, but a list of
all source names, sorted alpha-numerically, looks "helter-skelter."  When
sorted by the text after the File ID, the source names are better organized
and visually useful in finding typos and inconsistencies in data entry.  But
then it seems much harder to find particular sources for editing or citation
selection.

 

I've suggested to the Legacy folks that a "search by File ID" ability would
be very useful (and it would solve my problem).  But until that happens I'm
looking for ideas from other users.

 

One caveat - I can't use source details for "primary" source information and
attached media (ie, no lumping) as my TNG website won't "see" media attached
to source details in a GEDCOM, just the Detail Information and
Text/Comments.

 

Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree  

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Brian/Support]

This is a known problem and is recorded in our problem tracking system.

Brian
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On 02/01/2015 6:41 PM, rebelcr...@stjohncable.com wrote:
> I use the latest version of Legacy 8 on a Win 7 PC
>>From the Master Source List when selecting the "Show List ..." to see "All
> Individuals who Use this Master Source" I do not get the correct list of
> names. The missing and/or incorrect names are those "People who share this
> individual event with .. " not the owner of the event.
> Has anyone else experienced this issue? I'm not sure if my input technique
> is at fault or not.




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[LegacyUG] Master Source List

[rebelcreek]

I use the latest version of Legacy 8 on a Win 7 PC
>From the Master Source List when selecting the "Show List ..." to see "All
Individuals who Use this Master Source" I do not get the correct list of
names. The missing and/or incorrect names are those "People who share this
individual event with .. " not the owner of the event.
Has anyone else experienced this issue? I'm not sure if my input technique
is at fault or not.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Brian/Support]

Claudia,

You do want the source citation report but you should select the option
for "Only the Master Sources" to get a list of your Master sources
without the extra details on where they are used.

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On 01/11/2014 4:28 PM, Claudia Gibson wrote:
> I want to print my Master Source List but can't seem to print what I want
> it to. I do not want a Source Citation Report, I want the list that is like
> - Obituary-Kansas-Reno etc. - Census - Iowa - Van Buren etc.  does that
> make sense?  I think it is also called the Source List Name.
snip
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> Any tips for keeping consistent would be helpful too.
>
> Claudia



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[LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Claudia Gibson]

I want to print my Master Source List but can't seem to print what I want
it to. I do not want a Source Citation Report, I want the list that is like
- Obituary-Kansas-Reno etc. - Census - Iowa - Van Buren etc.  does that
make sense?  I think it is also called the Source List Name.

I struggle with keeping everything consistent because I don't get a chance
to work in the program on a regular basis. By the time I get back to it I
have forgotten how I did it before or how to do it. I am trying to make it
easier by having a printed list. I  will be glad when I retire (within the
year I hope) and I can work on this more often.

Any tips for keeping consistent would be helpful too.

Claudia



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Brian/Support]

The duplication of the Alt-C action letters for both Close and Cancel is
recorded as a problem in our problem reporting system. Only one button
should have the underlined C and the action of that button should be
executed when you use Alt-C.

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On 28/10/2012 14:34, Pat Hickin wrote:
> After I use the Master Source List and want to close it, I do an AltC for "*
> C*lose" and that just moves the cursor down to the next option, "*C*ancel."
> If I do an AltC again, the cursor moves back up to the "Close" option.  In
> either case, the Master Source List remains open (there is no "*S*ave"
> option).  I could sit here all day doing "AltC" & with the cursor moving up
> and down and the Master Source List remaining open.
>
> I really do not understand the reason for this arrangement and wish
> somebody would explain it to me.
>
> Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[R G Strong-genes]

Pat,
That’s because there is nothing to save. AltC does that because both buttons 
are programmed to do the same thing which is close the List window. So after 
you do AltC then hit enter when the button is highlighted. The window will 
close.
From: Pat Hickin
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

After I use the Master Source List and want to close it, I do an AltC for 
"Close" and that just moves the cursor down to the next option, "Cancel."  If I 
do an AltC again, the cursor moves back up to the "Close" option.  In either 
case, the Master Source List remains open (there is no "Save" option).  I could 
sit here all day doing "AltC" & with the cursor moving up and down and the 
Master Source List remaining open.

I really do not understand the reason for this arrangement and wish somebody 
would explain it to me.

Pat


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

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On 28/10/2012 18:34, Pat Hickin wrote:
> After I use the Master Source List and want to close it, I do an AltC for "*
> C*lose" and that just moves the cursor down to the next option, "*C*ancel."
> If I do an AltC again, the cursor moves back up to the "Close" option.  In
> either case, the Master Source List remains open (there is no "*S*ave"
> option).  I could sit here all day doing "AltC" & with the cursor moving up
> and down and the Master Source List remaining open.
>
> I really do not understand the reason for this arrangement and wish
> somebody would explain it to me.

It looks to me as though someone made a mistake when they selected the C
as the (underlined) selection character in both cases.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Name for Census Records

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 9/15/2012 5:44 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> Unless you're a splitter and like rummaging through hundreds, if not
> thousands of items in the Master Source List 

 And my list will show it

--
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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Name for Census Records

[Sherry/Support]

The Census source should be based on location. You could find several
families in that census and location so it should be sourced as Geoff
shows in the Sample file.

City/town is part of the Source Detail.

Unless you're a splitter and like rummaging through hundreds, if not
thousands of items in the Master Source List 


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kate Mohr  wrote:
> As a newbie, I used 1910 (or 1920,1930) US Census for my master source list 
> names.  Needless to say, with family members all across the US, I have 
> multiple master sources with the same master source list name.  I noticed 
> Geoff uses location in his examples.  I thought family names would also work. 
>  Any suggestions from users on what works, what are the alternatives?
>
>
> Also, why is there not a field for town/city name on page one of the Source 
> Writer for Census info?  County is there.  Town/City is on page 2 and is 
> buried in the citation information.
>
> Appreciate any insights.



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[LegacyUG] Master Source List Name for Census Records

[Kate Mohr]

As a newbie, I used 1910 (or 1920,1930) US Census for my master source list 
names.  Needless to say, with family members all across the US, I have multiple 
master sources with the same master source list name.  I noticed Geoff uses 
location in his examples.  I thought family names would also work.  Any 
suggestions from users on what works, what are the alternatives?


Also, why is there not a field for town/city name on page one of the Source 
Writer for Census info?  County is there.  Town/City is on page 2 and is buried 
in the citation information.

Appreciate any insights.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List

[Ron Ferguson]

Judith,

In fact this template was never released, I guess that with the vast range of 
templates it became too difficult to program.

You will no longer find mention of it in the Help Files (or I think not - I am 
on my tablet and cannot check)  and these are always more uptodate than a 
manual.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

"Judith"  wrote:

>According to Legacy 7.0 User manual/book, the Source Template Conversion
>Tool helps convert existing basic source citations to SourceWriter
>templates.  According to the book, you reach this tool from the Master
>Source List, then click Options, and choose Source Template Conversion Tool
>from the submenu.  I don't see this option and I find nothing in the Help
>Index either.
>
>
>
>Is this no longer available or do I need to look elsewhere?
>
>
>
>Judith
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source list

[Brian/Support]

Your explanation does not contain enough information on the steps you
used but my first guess is that you did not first clear the existing
clipboard which contained the 1911 census as the Master Source.

When you open the source clipboard first use the "click here ..." beside
step 1 to change the Master source for the clipboard then you can enter
information for the source details.

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On 20/06/2012 15:50, Terry L. wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been watch the webinar about adding census to Legacy. I added the
> 1911 UK census source for the first time, following the webinar. I
> then started to work on another individual in my tree, with the 1891
> UK census. I only completed the first step adding to clipboard, and
> noticed when I opened it up that the Output Preview on the right side
> contains the information from the 1911 UK census. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks
> Terry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source list

[Ron Ferguson]

Terry,

You need to create Master Sources for each census year, and Legacy has census 
templates for each of these plus the Channel Isles. On the Individual Name, and 
Event Screens there is a little blue arrow on the left, click this and at the 
top of the new screen you will see a link to Choose, Add or Edit a Master 
Source, click on this and then “Add” in the new screen. In the Search Box enter 
Census, select, say, England, fill in the details, then Select.

You need to select the appropriate census year.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Terry L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master source list

Hi,
I've been watch the webinar about adding census to Legacy. I added the 1911 UK 
census source for the first time, following the webinar. I then started to work 
on another individual in my tree, with the 1891 UK census. I only completed the 
first step adding to clipboard, and noticed when I opened it up that the Output 
Preview on the right side contains the information from the 1911 UK census. 
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Terry



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[Kirsten Bowman]

Bill:

It doesn't feel right because it isn't right.  It sounds as if you've
entered the ED etc. at the Master Source Level, perhaps at the Text/Comments
tab or even somewhere on the first (Source Info) screen.  For the second
source you've probably included the other ED and page number.  Legacy
recognizes these as two different sources.

The correct method would be to create a Master Source for Pennsylvania,
Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census but add *no other information.*
Then go to the Source Clipboard, select the Master Source, and add the
details there.  You can either do this separately for each ED or, as Rich
suggested, you can put the details for both EDs together in one citation.
Either way, you'll have only one Master Source but with one or two different
sets of details associated with it.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: William (Bill) R. Linhart
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports
duplicates.  Here is my example in my Master Source List:

(1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
(2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census

   NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
above is for ED 749 page 12B

I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate
Guide to Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries
in the "Master Source List".

What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?

Best Regards,
Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[Ward Walker]

Legacy allows you to create a new source with the same name as a
pre-existing source. (Apparently this field is not a primary key in the
underlying table.) It would be nice if Legacy gave you a warning before
committing the new name. Fortunately, when trying to cite one of these
sources, the panel that comes up also shows you what the citation will look
like, as soon as you click on one of the source name. So at least you can
tell the two apart. However, discovering the duplicate names should tell you
that something may be wrong with the way in which you are splitting your
information between the master and detail source records. If you are a
confirmed 'splitter', add more specifics to your source names. If you are
more of a 'lumper', then you have accidentally created a duplicate master
source that you don't need. There are many discussions in the LUG archive
about how people choose to split census citations.

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: "William (Bill) R. Linhart" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?


I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports
duplicates.  Here is my example in my Master Source List:

(1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
(2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census

   NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
above is for ED 749 page 12B

I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate
Guide to Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries
in the "Master Source List".

What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?

Best Regards,
Bill




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 6/17/2012 9:18 AM, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:
> I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports
> duplicates.  Here is my example in my Master Source List:
>
> (1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
> (2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
>
> NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
> above is for ED 749 page 12B
>
> I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate
> Guide to Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries
> in the "Master Source List".
>
> What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill
>
You only have one source:

Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census

Then you cite the information found as your notes above.

--
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Utah, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[JLB]

Under Options in the Master Source List click on Combine Duplicates.

---
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On 6/17/2012 8:18 AM, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:
> I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports
> duplicates.  Here is my example in my Master Source List:
>
> (1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
> (2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
>
> NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
> above is for ED 749 page 12B
>
> I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate
> Guide to Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries
> in the "Master Source List".
>
> What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

If it is the same city with multiple pages on each of various years, I split 
the years and put multiple page sections on one transcript for the city (with 
blank lines in between). Rich in LA CA 


 From: William (Bill) R. Linhart 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports
duplicates.  Here is my example in my Master Source List:

(1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
(2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census

                   NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
above is for ED 749 page 12B

I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate
Guide to Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries
in the "Master Source List".

What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?

Best Regards,
Bill



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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

[Bobby Johnson]

Bill,
The ED and page # should be part of you detail - not included in the Master 
Source.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: William (Bill) R. Linhart [mailto:wrlinh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source LIst name - duplicates for US Census?

I discovered by accident that the "Master Source List" supports duplicates.  
Here is my example in my Master Source List:

(1) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census
(2) Pennsylvania, Allegheny, Pittsburgh - 1930 - US Census

   NOTE: (1) above is for ED 272 Page 16A  and   (2)
above is for ED 749 page 12B

I believe that I have followed the example as pictured in CD "Ultimate Guide to 
Sources" but it does not feel right to have duplicate entries in the "Master 
Source List".

What do you do if you find duplicate names in your Master Source List?

Best Regards,
Bill





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Re: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST

[Ian Watkins]

On 9/05/2012 11:45 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
> There is also a manual way to combine sources if the method Ron gave you
> does not work to eliminate all the duplicates. In the Master source list
> look at the bottom for the button labelled Combine Highlighted Source
> with another in List. When you click that button the wording will
> change. Select the other duplicate and click the button again to combine
> the two sources.
>
> If there are more than two that you want to combine you can highlight
> multiple sources using CTRL Click (Hold control while clicking. Once
> several are highlighted click the combine button. Select the destination
> source and click again to combine all the highlighted sources.
>
> NOTE: If the sources are sourcewriter style all must be based on the
> same sourcewriter template or they cannot be combined.
>
> Brian
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> On 08/05/2012 6:58 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ian Watkins
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:41 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST
>>
>> Recently I imported a file into my main family file and I have now ended
>> up with several duplicated sources in my Master Source List.
>>
>> Is there any way to combine several identical Master Sources into a
>> single Master Source?
>>
>> Many Thanks
>> Ian Watkins
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> View>Master Lists>Sources>Options>Combine Duplicates. However it rather
>> depends on how you define "identical", computers define "identical" as
>> meaning "to the last comma and space".
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST

[Brian/Support]

There is also a manual way to combine sources if the method Ron gave you
does not work to eliminate all the duplicates. In the Master source list
look at the bottom for the button labelled Combine Highlighted Source
with another in List. When you click that button the wording will
change. Select the other duplicate and click the button again to combine
the two sources.

If there are more than two that you want to combine you can highlight
multiple sources using CTRL Click (Hold control while clicking. Once
several are highlighted click the combine button. Select the destination
source and click again to combine all the highlighted sources.

NOTE: If the sources are sourcewriter style all must be based on the
same sourcewriter template or they cannot be combined.

Brian
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On 08/05/2012 6:58 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Watkins
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:41 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST
>
> Recently I imported a file into my main family file and I have now ended
> up with several duplicated sources in my Master Source List.
>
> Is there any way to combine several identical Master Sources into a
> single Master Source?
>
> Many Thanks
> Ian Watkins
>
> Ian,
>
> View>Master Lists>Sources>Options>Combine Duplicates. However it rather
> depends on how you define "identical", computers define "identical" as
> meaning "to the last comma and space".
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: Ian Watkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] MASTER SOURCE LIST

Recently I imported a file into my main family file and I have now ended
up with several duplicated sources in my Master Source List.

Is there any way to combine several identical Master Sources into a
single Master Source?

Many Thanks
Ian Watkins

Ian,

View>Master Lists>Sources>Options>Combine Duplicates. However it rather
depends on how you define "identical", computers define "identical" as
meaning "to the last comma and space".

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[my genealogy email]

Mike, My response was that I was stating that you were not clear in your
original post that that is what you were doing, however it is moot now as
support has already answered the question.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

On 2011/10/22 01:07, my genealogy email wrote:

> You didn't say whether you were trying to combine a source that was basic
> or
> a sourcewriter source. If it was a source created with source writer you
> can
> only combine sources that use the same templates.

Why would you want to combine basic and sourcewriter sources? This was
trying to
combine two sourcewriter sources formed from the same, underlying template.

--
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Mike Fry
Johannesburg





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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/10/2011 09:08, Mike Fry wrote:
> Why would you want to combine basic and sourcewriter sources?

I know you weren't trying to do that, but I can imagine that people who
don't know *it isn't possible*, might think combining an (old) Basic
Source with a (new) SourceWriter Source is a way to convert Basic to SW.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/10/22 01:07, my genealogy email wrote:

> You didn't say whether you were trying to combine a source that was basic or
> a sourcewriter source. If it was a source created with source writer you can
> only combine sources that use the same templates.

Why would you want to combine basic and sourcewriter sources? This was trying to
combine two sourcewriter sources formed from the same, underlying template.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[Bruce Jones]

Thanks for the workaround tip.  It worked great for two Source Writer
sources I wanted to combine.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Mike Fry  wrote:

> Using latest version (7.5.0.112) on Windows/7.
>
> Noticed a mis-operation on the Master Source List window with the "Combine"
> button. It doesn't always work! Sometimes it behaves as advertised and
> sometimes
> it doesn't.
>
> By this I mean that pressing it with a Source List Name highlighted does
> not
> always result in the program offering to let you select the item that you
> want
> to combine with. A work around is to click the Show List... button, close
> the
> resultant window, and try again.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[Brian/Support]

This is a known problem and is recorded in our tracking system. The work
around you are using is the way to get the button to work.

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On 21/10/2011 6:49 PM, Mike Fry wrote:
> Using latest version (7.5.0.112) on Windows/7.
>
> Noticed a mis-operation on the Master Source List window with the "Combine"
> button. It doesn't always work! Sometimes it behaves as advertised and 
> sometimes
> it doesn't.
>
> By this I mean that pressing it with a Source List Name highlighted does not
> always result in the program offering to let you select the item that you want
> to combine with. A work around is to click the Show List... button, close the
> resultant window, and try again.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[my genealogy email]

Mike,
You didn't say whether you were trying to combine a source that was basic or
a sourcewriter source. If it was a source created with source writer you can
only combine sources that use the same templates.
Russ Strong

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

Using latest version (7.5.0.112) on Windows/7.

Noticed a mis-operation on the Master Source List window with the "Combine"
button. It doesn't always work! Sometimes it behaves as advertised and
sometimes
it doesn't.

By this I mean that pressing it with a Source List Name highlighted does not
always result in the program offering to let you select the item that you
want
to combine with. A work around is to click the Show List... button, close
the
resultant window, and try again.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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[LegacyUG] Master Source List Problem

[Mike Fry]

Using latest version (7.5.0.112) on Windows/7.

Noticed a mis-operation on the Master Source List window with the "Combine"
button. It doesn't always work! Sometimes it behaves as advertised and sometimes
it doesn't.

By this I mean that pressing it with a Source List Name highlighted does not
always result in the program offering to let you select the item that you want
to combine with. A work around is to click the Show List... button, close the
resultant window, and try again.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Randy Clark]

The usual advice is to be sure there are no check marks anywhere in
the show only column of the master source list.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM,   wrote:
> PLEASE HELP!
> My Master Source List just disappeared!  I was entering data and went to
> "Cite a Master Source" from the Source screen and there were no sources
> listed.  I had MANY sources a few minutes ago!
> Does anyone know what happened??
> I am using 7/4/0/45 with Windows 7.
> Thank you.
> Lisa Caldwell Garrett
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Brian/Support]

Lisa,

Make sure there are no check marks in the Show only section. That is the
most common problem when the Maser source list looks empty.

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On 19/01/2011 10:06 PM, lisagarre...@verizon.net wrote:
> PLEASE HELP!
> My Master Source List just disappeared! I was entering data and went to
> "Cite a Master Source" from the Source screen and there were no sources
> listed. I had MANY sources a few minutes ago!
> Does anyone know what happened??
> I am using 7/4/0/45 with Windows 7.
> Thank you.
> Lisa Caldwell Garrett



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RE: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Kirsten Bowman]

Lisa:

Go to the Master Source List screen and look at the section headed "Show Only." 
 Make sure you haven't unintentionally ticked one of those boxes.

Also, please note that your message was in HTML; posts to the list are supposed 
to be in plain text only (see the Etiquette link at the bottom of all posts).

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: lisagarre...@verizon.net [mailto:lisagarre...@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] master source list


PLEASE HELP!
My Master Source List just disappeared!  I was entering data and went to "Cite 
a Master Source" from the Source screen and there were no sources listed.  I 
had MANY sources a few minutes ago!
Does anyone know what happened??
I am using 7/4/0/45 with Windows 7.
Thank you.
Lisa Caldwell Garrett






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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Sherry/Support]

Did you take a look at the filters on the right under "Show Only" to
see if there are any checkmarks in front of one of the filters?


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM,   wrote:
> PLEASE HELP!
> My Master Source List just disappeared!  I was entering data and went to
> "Cite a Master Source" from the Source screen and there were no sources
> listed.  I had MANY sources a few minutes ago!
> Does anyone know what happened??
> I am using 7/4/0/45 with Windows 7.
> Thank you.
> Lisa Caldwell Garrett



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