Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/13/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ftp://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/lfs-packages/&version;/shadow-&shadow-version;.tar.bz2 > http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/lfs-packages/&version;/shadow-&shadow-version;.tar.bz2 > > These will be symlinks to conglomeration and all the packages are there. I'm going to push these to trunk now and merge it back to 6.3. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
On 8/12/07, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 08:19:28PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? > > > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/appendices/acknowledgements.html > > I'm no longer the ALFS project leader. But, for that matter, I don't > know who is. Development on jhalfs continues via Manuel and George B. > (who, btw, isn't mentioned), but not sure if that's necessary for the > actual LFS book. In fact the actual ALFS project is a little > unorganized, I think. > > BTW, you mention some CLFS developers, but not all. And some BLFS devs, > but not all. What is the prereq. for getting mentioned? > > Lastly, Ken Moffat is missing. He has LFS commit privs, I believe... > Yep, his name even appears in the Changelog. For now, I'm just going to add Ken to the acknowledgments and remove ALFS project leader from Jeremy's description. If anyone feels this should be updated further, please speak up. Otherwise, I'd like to punt further changes to post-6.3. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I would really not want anyone except editors to update the web site. > Its really pretty easy. svn checkout ... (once); edit html; svn commit > -m '...' and its done. I think you misunderstood my intention. I wasn't talking about implementing a full wiki, or replacing the current website. What I wanted to do was *add* some sort of framework or form, or something that will allow *editors* to quickly and easily add news items. The news items would then be dropped onto the current pages, much like the svn logs are done already. This is something that was requested long ago, but we never got around to finishing it. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > I wonder if perhaps we > could get a more blog-like interface to the news items sections, some > sort of framework that would drop in place to the current site. I'll > have to look around, but of course if anyone else already has an idea > about what would work, let's hear it. :) I would really not want anyone except editors to update the web site. Its really pretty easy. svn checkout ... (once); edit html; svn commit -m '...' and its done. I just checked and I think all the active editors have commit privs, so that should not be a problem. If we've left out someone, give me a yell and I'll fix it. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
On 8/13/07, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you, Randy. Yes, I think it would be nice to see all the LFS > projects do more with regards to the website. I wonder if perhaps we > could get a more blog-like interface to the news items sections, some > sort of framework that would drop in place to the current site. I'll > have to look around, but of course if anyone else already has an idea > about what would work, let's hear it. :) Cairographics just started using ikiwiki, which has backends for svn/git/etc. It allows the developers to make commits via git, but changes by ordinary users from the wiki interface are committed to git, too. I don't know much about it, but it seems really cool. http://cairographics.org/ http://ikiwiki.info/ http://cairographics.org/news/2007/07/03/cairo-wiki/ -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Randy McMurchy wrote: > This is some of the most refreshing words I've heard in a long time, > and would do wonders for the project. Jeremy, thank you for saying it. > I feel guilty because I don't update the BLFS web site more often. > (haven't even announced Ag's acceptance of an Editor's role, now that > I think about it). > > Think Google. Stuff gets indexed so fast now, that we could probably > create a lot more traffic with frequent updates to the web site. Let's > all strive to keep the various project's web pages updated with some > new stuff. It's hard (as there just isn't anything really "new" any > more), but doable. > > I'll try. Anyone else? Thank you, Randy. Yes, I think it would be nice to see all the LFS projects do more with regards to the website. I wonder if perhaps we could get a more blog-like interface to the news items sections, some sort of framework that would drop in place to the current site. I'll have to look around, but of course if anyone else already has an idea about what would work, let's hear it. :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Think Google. Stuff gets indexed so fast now, that we could probably > create a lot more traffic with frequent updates to the web site. Let's > all strive to keep the various project's web pages updated with some > new stuff. It's hard (as there just isn't anything really "new" any > more), but doable. LOL. I just did a google on linuxfromscratch and got 391,000 hits. The 6.3-rc1 announcement is on the first page. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/13/07 18:33 CST: > It's not dead. It's slow, but it isn't dead. I think you set your > standards for the project too high. There's only two of us and you > expect the level of support and maintenance that could only really be > achieved by a full-fledged distro with far more developers. I sensed the same exact thing when Alex mentioned his thoughts. I'm thinking, "Man, that livecd has always been there for me, and it always works. What more could folks want?" (above is my way of saying the product is very good) > As for the efforts you make in recruiting testers, perhaps you need to > try alternative methods of recruit. (e.g., perhaps help keep the website > up to date and post requests for help there). More regular news items, > not just release announcements, but ideas, new concepts and new features > could be added in a semi-blog form, perhaps even RSS feeds. This is some of the most refreshing words I've heard in a long time, and would do wonders for the project. Jeremy, thank you for saying it. I feel guilty because I don't update the BLFS web site more often. (haven't even announced Ag's acceptance of an Editor's role, now that I think about it). Think Google. Stuff gets indexed so fast now, that we could probably create a lot more traffic with frequent updates to the web site. Let's all strive to keep the various project's web pages updated with some new stuff. It's hard (as there just isn't anything really "new" any more), but doable. I'll try. Anyone else? > Lastly, frankly, I think you scare people away, at least to a certain > degree. You strive for perfection, which is noble, but in actuality, > unrealistic. And you set such high standards and strict rules about who > can request support, that I think it ends up keeping them from saying > anything. I've thought this as well (and very well phrased, Jeremy). But only to a small degree. But this is coming from a guy that isn't really the best PR figure either. > If we relaxed a bit more, and opened up more opportunities for > others to contribute, I'm sure we'd see much more feedback and support > from the community. There is merit to those words. I will remember this post from Jeremy, and going forward from here, attempt to apply much of what was said. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 19:24:00 up 11 days, 19:15, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.93, 0.83 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 8/13/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Randy McMurchy wrote: >>> Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 12:32 CST: >>> http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 >>> I put that there, and I now think it should be changed. If CLFS >>> updates their version of Shadow, that link is likely to go away. >>> >>> I'll wait for Dan to fix LFS, and I'll just put whatever he uses in >>> the BLFS book. CC'd BLFS-dev as a reminder to do it. >> ftp://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 >> http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > So, I should change it to point here? Yes, with a minor path change. Lets use: ftp://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/lfs-packages/&version;/shadow-&shadow-version;.tar.bz2 http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/lfs-packages/&version;/shadow-&shadow-version;.tar.bz2 These will be symlinks to conglomeration and all the packages are there. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > How do you propose to do this? I cannot recruit even testers. See - > there was only one relevant reply to my request to test the CD on Intel > hardware. The project is dead. It's not dead. It's slow, but it isn't dead. I think you set your standards for the project too high. There's only two of us and you expect the level of support and maintenance that could only really be achieved by a full-fledged distro with far more developers. As for the efforts you make in recruiting testers, perhaps you need to try alternative methods of recruit. (e.g., perhaps help keep the website up to date and post requests for help there). More regular news items, not just release announcements, but ideas, new concepts and new features could be added in a semi-blog form, perhaps even RSS feeds. Lastly, frankly, I think you scare people away, at least to a certain degree. You strive for perfection, which is noble, but in actuality, unrealistic. And you set such high standards and strict rules about who can request support, that I think it ends up keeping them from saying anything. If we relaxed a bit more, and opened up more opportunities for others to contribute, I'm sure we'd see much more feedback and support from the community. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/13/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 12:32 CST: > > > >> http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > > > I put that there, and I now think it should be changed. If CLFS > > updates their version of Shadow, that link is likely to go away. > > > > I'll wait for Dan to fix LFS, and I'll just put whatever he uses in > > the BLFS book. CC'd BLFS-dev as a reminder to do it. > > ftp://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 So, I should change it to point here? -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > If we can't find the developer's canonical location, I'd really prefer > anduin where we have complete control. For shadow, it is already there. > Sounds good, the lfs package repo won't be having that file be removed for years, I still even have 6.0 packages in the rsync repo, so any stable mirror of lfs such as anduin should be fine. lfs-matrix.net is my mirror and has been around for a while (not sure how long, haven't kept track) and I have no plans of stopping mirroring. Justin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 13:02 CST: > >> Right, but where is that mirroring from? The canonical download >> address comes from the LFS book and is picked up in the anduin sources >> repo. You can't mirror yourself. > > Here's a link, but I'm not sure how long it would be valid for. > http://fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/linux/src/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.gz/ > > Additionally, as you said, we can always find a home on Anduin. If we can't find the developer's canonical location, I'd really prefer anduin where we have complete control. For shadow, it is already there. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 13:02 CST: > Right, but where is that mirroring from? The canonical download > address comes from the LFS book and is picked up in the anduin sources > repo. You can't mirror yourself. Here's a link, but I'm not sure how long it would be valid for. http://fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/linux/src/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.gz/ Additionally, as you said, we can always find a home on Anduin. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 14:03:00 up 11 days, 13:54, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.07, 0.02 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/13/07, M.Canales.es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Lunes, 13 de Agosto de 2007 19:32, Dan Nicholson escribió: > > > Yeah, that site is gone. In BLFS we're using this: > > > > http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > > > There are plenty of places we can put it on one of the LFS servers. > > downloads.linuxfromscratch.org seems like as good a place as any. > > Let's see what the other editors say. > > Why not to use one of the FTP mirrors URL's? For example the one used by > jhalfs: > > ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 Right, but where is that mirroring from? The canonical download address comes from the LFS book and is picked up in the anduin sources repo. You can't mirror yourself. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 12:32 CST: > >> http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > I put that there, and I now think it should be changed. If CLFS > updates their version of Shadow, that link is likely to go away. > > I'll wait for Dan to fix LFS, and I'll just put whatever he uses in > the BLFS book. CC'd BLFS-dev as a reminder to do it. ftp://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/LFS/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
El Lunes, 13 de Agosto de 2007 19:32, Dan Nicholson escribió: > Yeah, that site is gone. In BLFS we're using this: > > http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > There are plenty of places we can put it on one of the LFS servers. > downloads.linuxfromscratch.org seems like as good a place as any. > Let's see what the other editors say. Why not to use one of the FTP mirrors URL's? For example the one used by jhalfs: ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/conglomeration/shadow/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 -- Manuel Canales Esparcia Usuario de LFS nº2886: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org LFS en castellano: http://www.escomposlinux.org/lfs-es http://www.lfs-es.info TLDP-ES: http://es.tldp.org -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/13/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 12:32 CST: > > > http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 > > I put that there, and I now think it should be changed. If CLFS > updates their version of Shadow, that link is likely to go away. > > I'll wait for Dan to fix LFS, and I'll just put whatever he uses in > the BLFS book. CC'd BLFS-dev as a reminder to do it. Well, I was putting out feelers as much as anything. I don't know what the right place to host it is. In BLFS, we often use the little file repo on anduin, but we don't have a similar setup for LFS. I think downloads would probably be a good place, though, since shadow is shared across both books. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 08/13/07 12:32 CST: > http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 I put that there, and I now think it should be changed. If CLFS updates their version of Shadow, that link is likely to go away. I'll wait for Dan to fix LFS, and I'll just put whatever he uses in the BLFS book. CC'd BLFS-dev as a reminder to do it. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 12:41:00 up 11 days, 12:32, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.05 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/13/07, Trent Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 12 August 2007 23:57, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Are there any last minute updates I need to make before sending the -rc2 > > release announcement? > > The changelog mentions the linux upgrade as 2.6.22.1 not 2.6.22.2. Good catch. I think that was just a c-n-p error. Fixing. > Also, the > shadow package links have never worked for me (two or three weeks of random > checks); Is it possible to replace the link? I'm not sure what the protocol > is on linking to another project's site, but I can provide a working link if > requested. Yeah, that site is gone. In BLFS we're using this: http://cross-lfs.org/files/packages/svn/shadow-4.0.18.1.tar.bz2 There are plenty of places we can put it on one of the LFS servers. downloads.linuxfromscratch.org seems like as good a place as any. Let's see what the other editors say. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On Sunday 12 August 2007 23:57, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Are there any last minute updates I need to make before sending the -rc2 > release announcement? The changelog mentions the linux upgrade as 2.6.22.1 not 2.6.22.2. Also, the shadow package links have never worked for me (two or three weeks of random checks); Is it possible to replace the link? I'm not sure what the protocol is on linking to another project's site, but I can provide a working link if requested. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 8/12/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are there any last minute updates I need to make before sending the -rc2 >> release announcement? > > I just found something I'd like changed in the bootscripts. A while > back, I started removing 2>/dev/null redirection since it hides > messages for errors. > > http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/changeset/8167 > > I just hit one I missed in checkfs. We currently have > > fsck ${options} -a -A -C -T 2>/dev/null > > Which conveniently hid the info the I had a LABEL wrong in fstab. > Instead I was dumped directly into "There's an unrecoverable error, > we're halting" and was really worried my disk was failing. Once I > commented out 2>/dev/null, it was clear what the problem was. > > Does anyone have any objections if I remove the 2>/dev/null above and > regenerate the bootscripts? Please do. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
On 8/12/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are there any last minute updates I need to make before sending the -rc2 > release announcement? I just found something I'd like changed in the bootscripts. A while back, I started removing 2>/dev/null redirection since it hides messages for errors. http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/changeset/8167 I just hit one I missed in checkfs. We currently have fsck ${options} -a -A -C -T 2>/dev/null Which conveniently hid the info the I had a LABEL wrong in fstab. Instead I was dumped directly into "There's an unrecoverable error, we're halting" and was really worried my disk was failing. Once I commented out 2>/dev/null, it was clear what the problem was. Does anyone have any objections if I remove the 2>/dev/null above and regenerate the bootscripts? -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
LFS-6.3-rc2 has been generated
The web site has been updated too, but the release announcement has not yet been sent. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.3-rc2/ The only outstanding issue before 6.3 final that I know about is to finish getting the acknowledgments page updated properly. Are there any last minute updates I need to make before sending the -rc2 release announcement? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > This isn't and should never be a showstopper for LFS. Since its > inception as a project, the LiveCD always _followed_ LFS releases. > People who follow development of LFS should be aware that a stable > LiveCD based on the just-released LFS book will be available in the near > future. > The problem is that I can only release the minimal CD in the near future. The full CD is essentially untested, so a long delay is inevitable. I _will_ put a full CD with the 6.3 book on ums.usu.ru on the same day as the release or on the next day, depending on availability of the updated jhalfs - but I won't call this a stable CD. > If your goal is to avoid requests for support based on using the wrong > CD or people looking for a CD that doesn't exist, I have a couple of > suggestions: > Note that a maintained CD essentially doesn't exist. I will not develop it after the 6.3 release. > * Request that the LFS release announcement mention that a stable CD > will be released shortly. > See above. > * Recruit more LiveCD developers/maintainers > How do you propose to do this? I cannot recruit even testers. See - there was only one relevant reply to my request to test the CD on Intel hardware. The project is dead. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:19:28 -0500 Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/appendices/acknowledgements.html > > -- Bruce Seems to me this is a recent list plus an old list with a lot of the middle missing - like after Jesse left in a huff and before Greg did (and then popped in again). But as I can't remember the names maybe I should shut up... R. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 08:19:28PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/appendices/acknowledgements.html I'm no longer the ALFS project leader. But, for that matter, I don't know who is. Development on jhalfs continues via Manuel and George B. (who, btw, isn't mentioned), but not sure if that's necessary for the actual LFS book. In fact the actual ALFS project is a little unorganized, I think. BTW, you mention some CLFS developers, but not all. And some BLFS devs, but not all. What is the prereq. for getting mentioned? Lastly, Ken Moffat is missing. He has LFS commit privs, I believe... Yep, his name even appears in the Changelog. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:01:01PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > LiveCD is not ready - mostly, one needs to update documentation and jhalfs. This isn't and should never be a showstopper for LFS. Since its inception as a project, the LiveCD always _followed_ LFS releases. People who follow development of LFS should be aware that a stable LiveCD based on the just-released LFS book will be available in the near future. If your goal is to avoid requests for support based on using the wrong CD or people looking for a CD that doesn't exist, I have a couple of suggestions: * Request that the LFS release announcement mention that a stable CD will be released shortly. * Recruit more LiveCD developers/maintainers -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/11/07 20:19 CST: > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? I can't see where DJ is mentioned, though I believe he should for the work he's put into the bootscripts. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 21:26:00 up 9 days, 21:17, 1 user, load average: 0.58, 0.62, 0.72 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/11/07 20:19 CST: >> I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not >> committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? > > Alexander is listed as a current *and* former team member. One or the > other please. :-) > > Mark Stone is listed as contributing Belgarath "the linuxfromscratch.org > server." This is not accurate any longer. OK, I made some changes to correct the issues you mentioned. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/11/07 20:19 CST: > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? Alexander is listed as a current *and* former team member. One or the other please. :-) Mark Stone is listed as contributing Belgarath "the linuxfromscratch.org server." This is not accurate any longer. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 21:30:00 up 9 days, 21:21, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.33, 0.57 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/11/07 20:19 CST: > I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not > committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/appendices/acknowledgements.html I don't see the need to include Jim Gifford in the acknowledgments. Perhaps there's something that he's contributed directly to LFS, but as far as the Patches project goes, he doesn't even update the repo with patches he puts in his own CLFS patches repo. Surely, we can't call him Patches Project Manager any longer. Or even affiliated with it for that matter. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.26] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 20:30:00 up 9 days, 20:21, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.26, 0.19 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
LFS 6.3-rc2 acknowledgments page
I've redone the acknowledgments page in my sandbox, but have not committed yet. Does this look OK to everybody? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/lfs-book/appendices/acknowledgements.html -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
On 8/11/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can delete the tag and regenerate. I haven't built the release yet. > I see you already fixed the branch. Nahh, don't bother. You'll just have to fix up all the other commits, too. Let's just keep this release moving. I'm confident in the bash fix. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 8/11/07, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 8/11/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I've made changes to the 6.3 branch to reflect -rc2. I plan on >>> generating the book and associated release files this afternoon unless >>> someone brings up a show stopper. >> Great. There are two changes I'd like to make. >> >> 1. Change the bash test fix so the stdin redirection only affects the >> one test. Suggested by Greg Schafer. Probably means I'll add this >> command and explanation: >> >> sed -i '[EMAIL PROTECTED]@& > >> 2. Clean up the Acknowledgments page. At least to add missing people, >> if not to move the inactive people to the Former Team Members section. >> >> I think only 1. needs to go in before -rc2 (want to have people >> actually test the command change). > > Since you already tagged -rc2, I'd just go ahead and start the book > generation, etc. These will just have to go in for 6.3 final. I can delete the tag and regenerate. I haven't built the release yet. I see you already fixed the branch. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
On 8/11/07, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/11/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've made changes to the 6.3 branch to reflect -rc2. I plan on > > generating the book and associated release files this afternoon unless > > someone brings up a show stopper. > > Great. There are two changes I'd like to make. > > 1. Change the bash test fix so the stdin redirection only affects the > one test. Suggested by Greg Schafer. Probably means I'll add this > command and explanation: > > sed -i '[EMAIL PROTECTED]@& > 2. Clean up the Acknowledgments page. At least to add missing people, > if not to move the inactive people to the Former Team Members section. > > I think only 1. needs to go in before -rc2 (want to have people > actually test the command change). Since you already tagged -rc2, I'd just go ahead and start the book generation, etc. These will just have to go in for 6.3 final. -- Dan -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
On 8/11/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made changes to the 6.3 branch to reflect -rc2. I plan on > generating the book and associated release files this afternoon unless > someone brings up a show stopper. Great. There are two changes I'd like to make. 1. Change the bash test fix so the stdin redirection only affects the one test. Suggested by Greg Schafer. Probably means I'll add this command and explanation: sed -i '[EMAIL PROTECTED]@& http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3-rc2
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've made changes to the 6.3 branch to reflect -rc2. I plan on > generating the book and associated release files this afternoon unless > someone brings up a show stopper. > LiveCD is not ready - mostly, one needs to update documentation and jhalfs. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
LFS 6.3-rc2
I've made changes to the 6.3 branch to reflect -rc2. I plan on generating the book and associated release files this afternoon unless someone brings up a show stopper. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page