Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:51:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) 1. Nobody makes a 8.4mm 2.5" HD. Only Toshiba made 8.45mm 2.5" HDs, but have discontinued making them. All 2.5" 8.45mm high Libretto compatible hard drives are listed on my site below if you'd like to hunt ebay.com and yahoo.com down for an older model. 2. It has been posted several times from various 9.5mm HD users in 8.45mm L50 slots that the extra 1mm difference eventually resulted in RAM chip delamination from the area of the motherboard directly above the HD bay, thus killing their Librettos. 3. I'd HIGHLY recommend disassembly of the http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:38:09 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) Tim, I think Tom may have been thinking that the issue we were discussing was how to install a 9.5mm HDD. That's been discussed a lot. But I don't recall (not that there wasn't) reading much discussion about whether or not a proper installation of the larger 9.5mm HDD has ever been documented as being the primary cause of a Libretto to die. Correct me if I'm wrong here Tom. Matt >From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) >Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 00:02:25 -0800 > >Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:53:53 +0000 >From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) > >Hi Tom, > >Thanks for the reply .. > >"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" wrote: > > > Subject: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) > > > > This has been covered TONS of times in the Archives. > >[T] Ok ... > > > > > > > Tim, I really suggest you read through the Archives before rehashing >questions > > that have been covered s many times before. > >[T] Well, I sorta have? I have found *some* answers, questions I didn't >know I was >going to ask and files etc but, like any 'published' information it's >potentially >'out-of-date' the second it hits the page? I read the archives, draw a >conclusion, >go off and find the item mentioned only to be told later by the (active >list) "Oh, >we don't use them any more!"? ;-( I ride a motorcycle and hence subscribe >to >several biking lists and we often see the same old "what is the best tyre >for this >bike" etc question popping up. The answers are often different each time as >tyres >become obsolete, new models introduced and fashions change. The 'archives' >rarely >reflect these particular changes? > > > > > > > Also, go here - http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ > > Read it all. It will really help, it helped me in the beginning. > >[T] Been there, read most of that! (It is a brilliant site though ..) now >*understanding* or *remembering* it are a different matter Tom! ;-) > > > > > > > But to answer your question, 9.5mm drives fit FINE in the 50/70 and >100/110, you > > just have to remove some small spacers from inside the machine, or you >might > > stress the mb and break the RAM solder joints free. > >[T] Hmm, there seems (from the list) to be a little undercurrent of folk >with dead >Libbys who supposedly removed the spacers etc though Tom ..? (My reserved, >non-risk-taking, Engineer, Virgo nature says "buy an 8G 8.Xmm drive...) > >All the best and thanks again Tom > >T i m > > > > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- >Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be >addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text >on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest >** > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:53:53 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) Hi Tom, Thanks for the reply .. "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" wrote: > Subject: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) > > This has been covered TONS of times in the Archives. [T] Ok ... > > > Tim, I really suggest you read through the Archives before rehashing questions > that have been covered s many times before. [T] Well, I sorta have? I have found *some* answers, questions I didn't know I was going to ask and files etc but, like any 'published' information it's potentially 'out-of-date' the second it hits the page? I read the archives, draw a conclusion, go off and find the item mentioned only to be told later by the (active list) "Oh, we don't use them any more!"? ;-( I ride a motorcycle and hence subscribe to several biking lists and we often see the same old "what is the best tyre for this bike" etc question popping up. The answers are often different each time as tyres become obsolete, new models introduced and fashions change. The 'archives' rarely reflect these particular changes? > > > Also, go here - http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ > Read it all. It will really help, it helped me in the beginning. [T] Been there, read most of that! (It is a brilliant site though ..) now *understanding* or *remembering* it are a different matter Tom! ;-) > > > But to answer your question, 9.5mm drives fit FINE in the 50/70 and 100/110, you > just have to remove some small spacers from inside the machine, or you might > stress the mb and break the RAM solder joints free. [T] Hmm, there seems (from the list) to be a little undercurrent of folk with dead Libbys who supposedly removed the spacers etc though Tom ..? (My reserved, non-risk-taking, Engineer, Virgo nature says "buy an 8G 8.Xmm drive...) All the best and thanks again Tom T i m > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 20:41:10 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive? At 02:05 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:57:26 + >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive? > >>Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 + >>From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Hi all, >> >>I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2 >>1/2" drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest? >> >>What should I look for (assuming we resolve the "Will a 9.5mm drive >>damage a 50CT" or not Q) > >An awful lot of folks on the list have stuffed 20GB HDDs in their old Libbys >recently, including me. It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has had any problems. >People have been doing this for a few years now too. I'll be interested to read >Pres's comments on his failures. Certainly I can't see how you could cause damange in an L100 with a 9.5mm hard drive given that the cavity (with the spacers removed) is AT LEAST 10mm (I can wobble my 9.5mm hard drive up and down in there, I'm considering putting some spacers back in so I don't stress the connector at the other end). As for my L50, it was a nice fit ... I could hold the hard drive at the opening and let go and it'll slide down under its own weight until it hit that metal pressure contact (designed to give good metal to metal contact for grounding the hard drive). Then all it needed was a gentle tap to hit the hdd connector and a firm push to seat the connector. The only problem I can think of is if you don't take the motherboard out to remove the spacers ... if so its highly likely you'd miss the spacers right at the back ... if you forget those (a blue one and a clear one) then you'll have problems. I took the motherboard out and pulled the black plastic thing all off, cleaned it all out then put the black plastic thing back in to make sure I'd removed all the spacers. Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 20:37:52 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive? At 11:55 PM 28/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 + >From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: So who makes an 8.4mm drive? > >Hi all, > >I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2 >1/2" drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest? > >What should I look for (assuming we resolve the "Will a 9.5mm drive >damage a 50CT" or not Q) Well I'm using a Fujitsu 20 gig drive ... it was in my L50, now its in my L100, its nice and quiet and its quite a bit faster than the stock hard drive which does make quite a difference given the amount of paging that happens. Of course, I can't compare it to any other similar drive ... round here you can only get Fujitsu drives (IBM laptop hard drives haven't been available for months). - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 02:15:54 -0800 From: "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?) This has been covered TONS of times in the Archives. Tim, I really suggest you read through the Archives before rehashing questions that have been covered s many times before. Also, go here - http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ Read it all. It will really help, it helped me in the beginning. But to answer your question, 9.5mm drives fit FINE in the 50/70 and 100/110, you just have to remove some small spacers from inside the machine, or you might stress the mb and break the RAM solder joints free. I see that: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ listed in the footer is no longer there - does anyone know where that info went, or is it what is posted at the Adorable site? Can we get it removed from the message footer? I am willing to host an HTML FAQ with links to useful pages, but I don't have time to track them all down, so if people could reply to this thread with the more useful pages they've found THAT STILL EXIST, I'll start building a links page. Then again, if someone has already built a really good links page, we need it added to the footer of messages to the list. Matthew Hanson wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:57:26 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive? > > >Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 + > >From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Hi all, > > > >I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2 > >1/2" drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest? > > > >What should I look for (assuming we resolve the "Will a 9.5mm drive > >damage a 50CT" or not Q) > > An awful lot of folks on the list have stuffed 20GB HDDs in their old Libbys > recently, including me. It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has had any > problems. People have been doing this for a few years now too. I'll be > interested to read Pres's comments on his failures. > > Matt > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** -- Tom Stangl ***http://www.vfaq.com/ ***DSM Visual FAQ home ***http://ba.dsm.org/ ***SF Bay Area DSMs ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:57:26 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive? >Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 + >From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi all, > >I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2 >1/2" drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest? > >What should I look for (assuming we resolve the "Will a 9.5mm drive >damage a 50CT" or not Q) An awful lot of folks on the list have stuffed 20GB HDDs in their old Libbys recently, including me. It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has had any problems. People have been doing this for a few years now too. I'll be interested to read Pres's comments on his failures. Matt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: So who makes an 8.4mm drive? Hi all, I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2 1/2" drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest? What should I look for (assuming we resolve the "Will a 9.5mm drive damage a 50CT" or not Q) All the best .. T i m ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **