Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Carl-Henrik Buschmann]

Hi again,

I try to do this dymanic acrobatic: 

"sfz > pp <"


In my mind i figured that nothing can come from nothing, so i tried the 
following:

  <<
{a2}
\\
{s4\sfz\> s4\pp\<}
  >> 

But this produces only the top voice with the stem the wrong way (of course). 
Any ideas?


Med vennlig hilsen,
Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Lektor

> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm trying to learn how to use lilypond to typeset orchestral material.
> Handling large projects is fun but good documentation regarding this is hard
> to come by. I'm still a lilypond novice and my Google-Fu has let me down, I
> need help.
> 
> I'm using my own orchestration which i engraved in Sibelius a while back.
> 
> This is my original sibelius score i.e.: the "ideal":
> http://i.imgur.com/fIQJN8v.png
> 
> And this is my lilypond output so far:
> http://i.imgur.com/g2OL258.png
> 

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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Carl-Henrik Buschmann]

> 
> Hi Carl-Henrik,
> 
> if you want your score like the Sibelius-output, I'd use Sibelius. ;)
> I think trying to trim LilyPond doing the same as Sibelius will make
> you miss some LilyPond-features.
> 

True, but if i have to show examples from *somewhere*. I happen to master 
sibelius, having used it since v2 (!). It is not that i prefere one over the 
other - all have theire use. 

> HTH,
>  Harm
> 

Thank you for the code! Much appreciated.

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Re: Install on linux

[N. Andrew Walsh]

Late to the party, but most Linux distros will allow you to add
repositories/packages for more-recent versions: on gentoo, you can even use
a "live" version that installs from git. This has the occasional
consequence of lilypond reporting itself as a version that isn't officially
released yet. So if you want to be WICKED HARDCORE, you can certainly
install newer versions. Ubuntu, iirc, allows you to add repositories, and I
think (?) there's one out there for more-recent lilypond.

Cheers,

A

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:05 AM, David Wright 
wrote:

> On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 22:12:51 (+0100), Malte Meyn wrote:
> > Am 21.02.2016 um 22:02 schrieb David Wright:
> > >On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 19:10:29 (+0100), Peter O'Doherty wrote:
> > >>Thanks a lot. Sorted now using sudo sh lilypond...
> > >
> > >I can't help wondering what the ... stands for.
> > >
> > It’s the install script, something like
> >
> > lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh
>
> I was interested whether anything followed that, both arguments and
> subsequent commands (if any). Your advice was good, but his second
> posting was a reply to his own OP, not to yours. (Not all the advice
> in the thread was good.)
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
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Vertical position of bar numbers

[David Wright]

Having recently fixed a similar problem with bar numbering by moving
the Mark_engraver and adding Staff_collecting_engraver at Staff level,
I've run into the following: my bar numbers are running along the
skyline of my lyrics, as shown in the fabricated example.

I like the 4 in the normal (default) position, and would prefer the
others to settle at the same level: below the upper lyrics, just above
the staff.

As before, I've arrived at   4.4.3 Outside-staff objects   on p114 of
the Learning Manual (2.19.36) but, although there are default
priorities for bar numbers (and measure numbers, what's the
difference? apart from 650 in priority), lyrics are not mentioned
(as not grobs?). It's often the case that I can work out how to do
two things on separate occasions, but not when they happen together.

Cheers,
David.
\version "2.19.32"
\language "english"

\header { tagline = ##f }
\paper { #(set-paper-size "a5") }

\layout {
  indent = 0
  \context {
\Score
\override SystemStartBar.collapse-height = #1
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 2)
\remove Mark_engraver
  }
  \context {
\GrandStaff
systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBracket
\override SystemStartBracket.collapse-height = #1
  }
  \context {
\Staff
\omit TimeSignature
\consists Mark_engraver
\consists Staff_collecting_engraver
  }
}

global = {
  \key d \dorian \time 4/4 s1 * 6
}

soprano = \relative {
  a'2. a4 a4 a g e f4. g8 ( a4 ) a \break
  g4 e f4. g8 a8 ( b c2 ) b4~ b4 a2 gs4
}

alto = \relative {
  d'2. d4 c4 a b c d2 c4 a
  b4 c d2 f4 e4. ( d8 ) e4 c4 d ( e2 )
}

tenor = \relative {
  f2. f4 f4 f g g a2 a4 f
  g4 g a2 a4 a2 gs4 a2 b
}

bass = \relative {
  d2. d4 f4 f e e d4. e8 ( f4 ) f
  e4 e d2 d4 a2 e'4 f2 e
}

sopranotext = \lyricmode {
  Lord, now let -- test thou thy ser -- vant de -- part in peace
  ac -- cor -- ding __ to thy word.
}

altotext = \lyricmode {
  Lord, now let -- test thou thy ser -- vant de -- part in peace
  ac -- cor -- ding to thy __ word.
}

\score {
  \new GrandStaff <<
\new Staff = st <<
  \clef treble \global
  \new Voice { \voiceOne \soprano }
  \addlyrics \with { alignAboveContext = st } { \sopranotext }
  \new Voice { \voiceTwo \alto }
  \addlyrics { \altotext }
>>
  >>
}


nunc.pdf
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Re: Install on linux

[David Wright]

On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 22:12:51 (+0100), Malte Meyn wrote:
> Am 21.02.2016 um 22:02 schrieb David Wright:
> >On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 19:10:29 (+0100), Peter O'Doherty wrote:
> >>Thanks a lot. Sorted now using sudo sh lilypond...
> >
> >I can't help wondering what the ... stands for.
> >
> It’s the install script, something like
> 
> lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh

I was interested whether anything followed that, both arguments and
subsequent commands (if any). Your advice was good, but his second
posting was a reply to his own OP, not to yours. (Not all the advice
in the thread was good.)

Cheers,
David.

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Re: How to correctly use ly:warning-located?

[David Kastrup]

Simon Albrecht  writes:

>> *location* is a procedure (used for accessing the fluid %location local
>> to the guile module), not a location.  So call it.
>
> OK, that’s one thing. But with (*location*) I still get the same error
> message that it be of the wrong type…

Example code?

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Thomas Morley]

2016-02-20 22:02 GMT+01:00 Carl-Henrik Buschmann :
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm trying to learn how to use lilypond to typeset orchestral material.
> Handling large projects is fun but good documentation regarding this is hard
> to come by. I'm still a lilypond novice and my Google-Fu has let me down, I
> need help.
>
> I'm using my own orchestration which i engraved in Sibelius a while back.
>
> This is my original sibelius score i.e.: the "ideal":
> http://i.imgur.com/fIQJN8v.png
>
> And this is my lilypond output so far:
> http://i.imgur.com/g2OL258.png
>

Hi Carl-Henrik,

if you want your score like the Sibelius-output, I'd use Sibelius. ;)
I think trying to trim LilyPond doing the same as Sibelius will make
you miss some LilyPond-features.

That said...
It's not wrong to implement missing features into LilyPond.

Hence I took a look at your request below.

> 3) I want the beams to and from rests, with stemlets, like so:
> http://i.imgur.com/62wXphp.png


Others answered already about the possibilities to get the beam. So I
limited my work to stemlets over rests.

Right now LilyPond offers the possibility to set the length of
stemlets to a certain but fixed value.
Iiuc, you want it flexible, always extending from the beam close to the rest.

Thus my coding below, it's only tested for the given examples, though.
Further testing is your turn.

\version "2.19.36"

#(define stemlet-length-to-rest
;; Always extend stemlets over beamed rests, minimum is 0.5
  (lambda (grob)
(let* ((stem (ly:grob-object grob 'stem))
   (beam
 (if stem
 (ly:grob-object stem 'beam)
 #f)))
  (if (and (not (null? beam)) (not (null? stem)))
  (let* ((sys
   (ly:grob-system grob))
 (stems
   (ly:grob-array->list (ly:grob-object beam 'stems)))
 (stem-coord
   (- (ly:grob-relative-coordinate
(car (member stem stems)) sys X)
  (ly:grob-relative-coordinate
(car stems) sys X)))
 (beam-pos
   (ly:grob-property beam 'positions))
 (beam-y-length
   (- (car beam-pos) (cdr beam-pos)))
 (beam-x-length
   (let ((x-pos (ly:grob-property beam 'X-positions)))
 (- (car x-pos) (cdr x-pos
 (stem-add-for-beam-slant
   (if (or (inf? stem-coord) (zero? stem-coord))
   0
   (* (/ beam-y-length beam-x-length)
  stem-coord)))
 (beam-dir
   (ly:grob-property beam 'direction))
 (staff-space
   (ly:staff-symbol-staff-space grob))
 (rest-y-ext
   (ly:grob-extent grob (ly:grob-parent grob Y) Y)))
(ly:grob-set-property! stem 'stemlet-length
  (max 0.5
(+ (* beam-dir stem-add-for-beam-slant)
   (- (if (= beam-dir DOWN)
  (- (car rest-y-ext) (car beam-pos))
  (- (car beam-pos) (cdr rest-y-ext)))
  (/ staff-space 2))

stemlets-test =
  \override Rest.after-line-breaking = #stemlet-length-to-rest

m = { r8[ d''\rest r c''8] c''2 \bar "||" }
mus = {
  \time 2/4
  \voiceOne
  \m
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(5 . 7)
  \m
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(7 . 5)
  \m
  \voiceTwo
  \m
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-5 . -7)
  \m
  \once \override Beam.positions = #'(-7 . -5)
  \m
}

\score {
  \new StaffGroup
<<
  \new Staff \mus
  \new Staff \mus
>>
  \layout {
\stemlets-test
  }
}


Code and png attached as well.


HTH,
  Harm
\version "2.19.36"

#(define stemlet-length-to-rest
;; Always extend stemlets over beamed rests, minimum is 0.5
  (lambda (grob) 
(let* ((stem (ly:grob-object grob 'stem))
   (beam 
 (if stem
 (ly:grob-object stem 'beam)
 #f)))
  (if (and (not (null? beam)) (not (null? stem)))
  (let* ((sys 
   (ly:grob-system grob))
 (stems 
   (ly:grob-array->list (ly:grob-object beam 'stems)))
 (stem-coord
   (- (ly:grob-relative-coordinate 
(car (member stem stems)) sys X)
  (ly:grob-relative-coordinate 
(car stems) sys X)))
 (beam-pos
   (ly:grob-property beam 'positions))
 (beam-y-length
   (- (car beam-pos) (cdr beam-pos)))
 (beam-x-length
   (let ((x-pos (ly:grob-property beam 'X-positions)))
 (- (car x-pos) (cdr x-pos
 (stem-add-for-beam-slant
   (if (or (inf? stem-coord) (zero? stem-coord))

horicontally shift of polyrhythmic staves

[Jonathan Scholbach]

Hi,

I would like to set the following scenario:

In a polyrhythmic piece with multiple staves one staff starts a quarter
note later than the others. I need to horizontally shift this stave for
the "duration" of a quarter note. How can I do that?

To illustrate what I want I post the following ME, which shows a
(dissatifactory) workaround, where the rhythmical structure is
represented correctly. However this is dissatisfatroy, because I do not
to want  cheat with \set Timing.measureLength. And I want the bracket of
the later starting staff (the third one in my ME) to be shifted to the
right, because I think it represents the composer's musical idea better.

Thank you,

Jonathan

\version "2.19.22"

firstVoice= \relative c'' {

\time 2/4

g2

\time 4/4

g4. b8 b4 g4

\time 1/4

c\bar"|."

}

secondVoice= \relative c' {

\time 2/4

c4 c

\time 4/4

g'4 g f e

\time 1/4

c\bar"|."

}

thirdVoice= \relative c' {

\time 3/4 s4

\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/4) e4 e e

\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3/4)

e2.\bar"|."

}

\score {

\new StaffGroup <<

\new StaffGroup<<

\new Staff <<

\new Voice = "first" { \firstVoice}

>>

\new Staff <<

\new Voice = "second" { \secondVoice}

>>

>>%end of first inner StaffGroup

\new StaffGroup <<

\new Staff <<

\new Voice = "third" { \thirdVoice}

>>

>> % end of second inner StaffGroup

>>%end of outer StaffGroup

%layout settings needed for drawing barlines correctly

\layout {

\context {

\Score

\remove "Timing_translator"

\remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"

}

\context{

\Staff

\consists "Timing_translator"

\consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"

}

}

}%end of score





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Re: How to correctly use ly:warning-located?

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.02.2016 15:13, David Kastrup wrote:

Simon Albrecht  writes:


Hello,

the doc string for ly:warning-located says

‘Function: ly:warning-located location str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the warning str at the specified
location in an input file. The message is formatted with format and
rest.’

However, with this example

%%%
\version "2.19.36"

m =
#(define-music-function ()()
(ly:warning-located *location* "Here, \\m should be replaced with
\\melisma.")
#{ \melisma #})

<<
   {
 c'1\m d\melismaEnd
   }
   \addlyrics { test test }


I get

document.ly:5:4: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting string):
#

What is the correct way?

*location* is a procedure (used for accessing the fluid %location local
to the guile module), not a location.  So call it.


OK, that’s one thing. But with (*location*) I still get the same error 
message that it be of the wrong type…


Yours, Simon

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Re: Install on linux

[Malte Meyn]

Am 21.02.2016 um 22:02 schrieb David Wright:

On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 19:10:29 (+0100), Peter O'Doherty wrote:

Thanks a lot. Sorted now using sudo sh lilypond...


I can't help wondering what the ... stands for.


It’s the install script, something like

lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh

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Re: Install on linux

[David Wright]

On Sun 21 Feb 2016 at 19:10:29 (+0100), Peter O'Doherty wrote:
> Thanks a lot. Sorted now using sudo sh lilypond...

I can't help wondering what the ... stands for.

> On 21-02-16 13:13, Peter O'Doherty wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on
> >the website i.e.
> >cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
> >sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh
> >)
> >it installs two folders in my home directory, lilypond and bin.
> >What's the best way to organise these? Should I just put the bin
> >in the lilypond folder and move that to .local/share or
> >/usr/share?

Cheers,
David.

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Manual Chapter 2.10.2 Arabic music subchapter Selected Snippets Non-traditional key signatures

[Blöchl Bernhard]

\include "arabic.ly"
\relative do' {
  \set Staff.keyAlterations = #`(
(0 . ,SEMI-FLAT)
(1 . ,SEMI-FLAT)
(2 . ,FLAT)
(5 . ,FLAT)
(6 . ,SEMI-FLAT)
  )
  %\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f
  re reb \dwn reb resd
  dod dob dosd \dwn dob |
  dobsb dodsd do do |
}

The key accidentals in this example are shown in the turkish notation 
version. Is there any chance to get the key accidentals in the arabic 
view with the slashed half accidental, as with


dwn = {
  \once \override Voice.Accidental.stencil = #(lambda (grob)
  (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
(ly:accidental-interface::print grob) Y UP
(grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:line
  (#:fontsize -1 (#:musicglyph "flags.ugrace" -1.3))
}

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Re: Install on linux

[Peter O'Doherty]

Thanks a lot. Sorted now using sudo sh lilypond...


On 21-02-16 13:13, Peter O'Doherty wrote:

Hi,

When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on the 
website i.e.

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh
)
it installs two folders in my home directory, lilypond and bin. What's 
the best way to organise these? Should I just put the bin in the 
lilypond folder and move that to .local/share or /usr/share?


Thanks,
Peter

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Re: Multi-rest with automatic bar number before and after it

[Craig Dabelstein]

This is great work! It's exactly what I need but it threw me a bunch of
errors. I'll try to put together an example to show you.

Craig


On 20 February 2016 at 22:41, Thomas Morley 
wrote:

> 2016-02-19 4:23 GMT+01:00 Craig Dabelstein :
> > Hi Harm,
> >
> > I discovered a problem. It works perfectly with 4/4 time but it doesn't
> work
> > with other time signatures. Can you suggest to me how I can make it work
> for
> > different time signatures?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Craig
>
>
>
> I found no way to make it work with all possible \time-settings via
> \applyOutput
>
> Hence the engraver below. (Also attached.)
> Formating is done in a scheme-function `formatMMRNumber'. Thanks David
> for the hint to `translated-scale'
> Printing of the range may be enabled/disabled by setting the new
> defined context-property `printMmrRange'.
>
> Some remarks/TODOs, especially:
> Why I cannot _create_ a MultiMeasureRestText-grob via
> `ly:engraver-make-grob'?
> It works for TextScript ...
>
> \version "2.19.36"
>
> %% define the custom context-property `printMmrRange'
> #(define (define-translator-property symbol type? description)
>   (if (not (and (symbol? symbol)
> (procedure? type?)
> (string? description)))
>   (ly:error "error in call of define-translator-property"))
>   (if (not (equal? (object-property symbol 'translation-doc) #f))
>   (ly:error (_ "symbol ~S redefined") symbol))
>
>   (set-object-property! symbol 'translation-type? type?)
>   (set-object-property! symbol 'translation-doc description)
>   symbol)
>
> #(for-each
>   (lambda (x)
> (apply define-translator-property x))
> `((printMmrRange
>,boolean?
>"Print range of a MultiMeasureRest")))
>
> %% define how to format `start' and `stop'
> %% for `MultiMeasureRestNumber' in the engraver
> %% TODO find a method to set the values for `translate-scaled'
> formatMMRNumber =
> #(define-scheme-function (start stop)(integer? integer?)
> #{
>   \markup
> \center-column {
>#(number->string (- stop start))
>%% value found by try and error
>\translate-scaled #'(0 . -6.5)
>\with-dimensions #empty-interval #empty-interval
>\halign #CENTER
>\normal-text
>\fontsize #-2
>\line {
>  #(number->string (1+  start))
>  " - "
>  #(number->string stop)
>}
> }
> #})
>
> %% TODO
> %% I didn't manage to _create_ a MultiMeasureRestText-grob via
> %% `ly:engraver-make-grob'
> %% How to do?
> %% It worked with simple TextScript ...
> #(define (mmr-range-engraver context)
> "Print the range of a @code{MultiMeasureRest}, if the context-property
> @code{printMmrRange} is set @code{#t}."
>   (let ((m-m-r-print '()))
> `((acknowledgers
> (multi-measure-interface
>  . ,(lambda (engraver grob source-engraver)
> (if (eq? (grob::name grob) 'MultiMeasureRestNumber)
> (set! m-m-r-print
>   (cons
> (cons grob (ly:context-property context
> 'printMmrRange))
> m-m-r-print))
>   (finalize
> .
> ,(lambda (trans)
>   (let* ((timeSignatureFraction
>(ly:context-property context 'timeSignatureFraction))
>  (fraction
>(/ (car timeSignatureFraction) (cdr
> timeSignatureFraction
>   (for-each
> (lambda (mmr)
>   (if (and (cdr mmr) (not (null? (cdr mmr
>   (let* ((m-m-r-start
>(/ (ly:moment-main
> (grob::when (ly:spanner-bound (car mmr)
> LEFT)))
>   fraction))
>  (m-m-r-stop
>(/ (ly:moment-main
> (grob::when (ly:spanner-bound (car mmr)
> RIGHT)))
>   fraction)))
> (ly:grob-set-property! (car mmr) 'text
>   (formatMMRNumber m-m-r-start m-m-r-stop)
> m-m-r-print)
>   (set! m-m-r-print '(
>
> %%
> %% EXAMPLES
> %%
>
> \layout {
>   \override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #t)
> }
>
> \score {
>   {
> \time 3/4
> c'2.
> \compressFullBarRests
> R2.*14
> c'2.
> \once \unset printMmrRange
> R2.*15
> c'2.
> R2.*15
> c'2.
>   }
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \Voice
>   \consists #mmr-range-engraver
>   printMmrRange = ##t
> }
>   }
> }
>
> \score {
>   {
> \time 3/4
> c'2.
> \compressFullBarRests
> R2.*14
> c'2.
> \once \set printMmrRange = ##t
> R2.*15
> c'2.
> R2.*15
> c'2.
>   }
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \Voice
>   \consists #mmr-range-engraver
>   printMmrRange = ##f
> }
>   }
> }
>
> \score {
>   {

Re: manual Makam example

[Blöchl Bernhard]

Sorry! I pressed the wrong send button I corrected the error some 
minutes later.


Am 21.02.2016 16:15, schrieb Simon Albrecht:

Don’t reply off-list! I have no idea whatsoever about arabic music, so
there’s no point in e-mailing me.
Best, Simon

On 21.02.2016 14:44, BB wrote:
I still think that the snippet ifrom the world music chapter is better 
than the one actually in the arabic chapter. I will recommend it in 
the bug-lilypond mailing list, if I find some time. Actually I am 
fighting with some problems.


I would post a better one, if I could get an example code! There is 
some inconsisteny.

If i use
\include arabic.ly
the arabic maqams are defined and will be found, but the english note 
names are not known.


\include "arabic.ly"

\relative do' {

\key re \bayati

%\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f

dod dob dosd \dwn dob dobsb dodsd do do

}

That is another important fact to say that given example in the arabic 
chapter is double-crap! This snippet indeed uses english note names 
not known with \arabic.ly!


As I prefer the english note names. If I use
\include maqam.ly
the maqams are undefined, but the english note names are known.

\include "makam.ly"

\relative c' {

\key d \bayati

c4 cc db fk

gbm4 gfc gfb efk

fk4 db cc c

}


If I try the definition of Bayati from arabic.ly, the resukt is vey 
strange, I do not understand why?


\include "makam.ly" \relative c' { \set Staff.keyAlterations = #`( (0 
. ,NATURAL) (1 . ,SEMI-FLAT) (2 . ,FLAT) (3 . ,NATURAL) (4 . ,NATURAL) 
(5 . ,FLAT) (6 . ,FLAT) ) c4 cc db fk gbm4 gfc gfb efk fk4 db cc c }


I think that ha s to do with the missing key alteration order? May be 
an extension/redesign of maqam.ly is necessary? Help would be 
appreciated!

On 21.02.2016 13:27, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 21.02.2016 12:54, BB wrote:
At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music 
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is 
very peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter 
tone. Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic 
notation section dealing with the special case of quarter tone 
notation!
You’re welcome to come up with a better example and post it on the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, with a concise description what exactly it 
is for and why it is better. Best, Simon


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Re: manual Makam example

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.02.2016 16:15, Simon Albrecht wrote:
Don’t reply off-list! I have no idea whatsoever about arabic music, so 
there’s no point in e-mailing me.

Sorry for the noise…

Best, Simon

On 21.02.2016 14:44, BB wrote:
I still think that the snippet ifrom the world music chapter is 
better than the one actually in the arabic chapter. I will recommend 
it in the bug-lilypond mailing list, if I find some time. Actually I 
am fighting with some problems.


I would post a better one, if I could get an example code! There is 
some inconsisteny.

If i use
\include arabic.ly
the arabic maqams are defined and will be found, but the english note 
names are not known.


\include "arabic.ly"

\relative do' {

\key re \bayati

%\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f

dod dob dosd \dwn dob dobsb dodsd do do

}

That is another important fact to say that given example in the 
arabic chapter is double-crap! This snippet indeed uses english note 
names not known with \arabic.ly!


As I prefer the english note names. If I use
\include maqam.ly
the maqams are undefined, but the english note names are known.

\include "makam.ly"

\relative c' {

\key d \bayati

c4 cc db fk

gbm4 gfc gfb efk

fk4 db cc c

}


If I try the definition of Bayati from arabic.ly, the resukt is vey 
strange, I do not understand why?


\include "makam.ly" \relative c' { \set Staff.keyAlterations = #`( (0 
. ,NATURAL) (1 . ,SEMI-FLAT) (2 . ,FLAT) (3 . ,NATURAL) (4 . 
,NATURAL) (5 . ,FLAT) (6 . ,FLAT) ) c4 cc db fk gbm4 gfc gfb efk fk4 
db cc c }


I think that ha s to do with the missing key alteration order? May be 
an extension/redesign of maqam.ly is necessary? Help would be 
appreciated!

On 21.02.2016 13:27, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 21.02.2016 12:54, BB wrote:
At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music 
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is 
very peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter 
tone. Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic 
notation section dealing with the special case of quarter tone 
notation! 
You’re welcome to come up with a better example and post it on the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, with a concise description what exactly 
it is for and why it is better. Best, Simon 


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Re: manual Makam example

[Simon Albrecht]

Don’t reply off-list! I have no idea whatsoever about arabic music, so 
there’s no point in e-mailing me.

Best, Simon

On 21.02.2016 14:44, BB wrote:
I still think that the snippet ifrom the world music chapter is better 
than the one actually in the arabic chapter. I will recommend it in 
the bug-lilypond mailing list, if I find some time. Actually I am 
fighting with some problems.


I would post a better one, if I could get an example code! There is 
some inconsisteny.

If i use
\include arabic.ly
the arabic maqams are defined and will be found, but the english note 
names are not known.


\include "arabic.ly"

\relative do' {

\key re \bayati

%\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f

dod dob dosd \dwn dob dobsb dodsd do do

}

That is another important fact to say that given example in the arabic 
chapter is double-crap! This snippet indeed uses english note names 
not known with \arabic.ly!


As I prefer the english note names. If I use
\include maqam.ly
the maqams are undefined, but the english note names are known.

\include "makam.ly"

\relative c' {

\key d \bayati

c4 cc db fk

gbm4 gfc gfb efk

fk4 db cc c

}


If I try the definition of Bayati from arabic.ly, the resukt is vey 
strange, I do not understand why?


\include "makam.ly" \relative c' { \set Staff.keyAlterations = #`( (0 
. ,NATURAL) (1 . ,SEMI-FLAT) (2 . ,FLAT) (3 . ,NATURAL) (4 . ,NATURAL) 
(5 . ,FLAT) (6 . ,FLAT) ) c4 cc db fk gbm4 gfc gfb efk fk4 db cc c }


I think that ha s to do with the missing key alteration order? May be 
an extension/redesign of maqam.ly is necessary? Help would be 
appreciated!

On 21.02.2016 13:27, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 21.02.2016 12:54, BB wrote:
At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music 
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is 
very peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter 
tone. Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic 
notation section dealing with the special case of quarter tone 
notation! 
You’re welcome to come up with a better example and post it on the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, with a concise description what exactly it 
is for and why it is better. Best, Simon 


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Re: How to correctly use ly:warning-located?

[David Kastrup]

Simon Albrecht  writes:

> Hello,
>
> the doc string for ly:warning-located says
>
> ‘Function: ly:warning-located location str rest
> A Scheme callable function to issue the warning str at the specified
> location in an input file. The message is formatted with format and
> rest.’
>
> However, with this example
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.36"
>
> m =
> #(define-music-function ()()
>(ly:warning-located *location* "Here, \\m should be replaced with
> \\melisma.")
>#{ \melisma #})
>
> <<
>   {
> c'1\m d\melismaEnd
>   }
>   \addlyrics { test test }
>>>
> 
>
> I get
>
> document.ly:5:4: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting string):
> #
>
> What is the correct way?

*location* is a procedure (used for accessing the fluid %location local
to the guile module), not a location.  So call it.

Of course, you can just pipe

m =
#(define-music-function (parser location)()
   (ly:warning-located location "Replace me")
   #{ \melisma #})

through

convert-ly -f 2.19.20 -t 2.19.30 -

and see what comes out.


I get

convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.19.32

convert-ly: Processing `'... 
Applying conversion: 2.19.22, 2.19.24, 2.19.28, 2.19.29


\version "2.19.29"
m =
#(define-music-function ()()
   (ly:warning-located (*location*) "Replace me")
   #{ \melisma #})



-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: manual Makam example

[BB]

I still think that the snippet ifrom the world music chapter is better 
than the one actually in the arabic chapter. I will recommend it in the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, if I find some time. Actually I am fighting 
with some problems.


I would post a better one, if I could get an example code! There is some 
inconsistency. If i use

\include arabic.ly
the arabic maqams are defined and will be found, but the english note 
names are not known.


\include "arabic.ly"

\relative do' {

\key re \bayati

%\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f

dod dob dosd \dwn dob dobsb dodsd do do

}

That is another important fact to say that given example in the arabic 
chapter is double-crap! This snippet indeed uses english note names not 
known with \arabic.ly!


As I prefer the english note names. If I use
\include maqam.ly
the maqams are undefined, but the english note names are known.

\include "makam.ly"

\relative c' {

\key d \bayati

c4 cc db fk

gbm4 gfc gfb efk

fk4 db cc c

}


If I try the definition of Bayati from arabic.ly, the resukt is vey 
strange, I do not understand why?


\include "makam.ly" \relative c' { \set Staff.keyAlterations = #`( (0 . 
,NATURAL) (1 . ,SEMI-FLAT) (2 . ,FLAT) (3 . ,NATURAL) (4 . ,NATURAL) (5 
. ,FLAT) (6 . ,FLAT) ) c4 cc db fk gbm4 gfc gfb efk fk4 db cc c }


I think that ha s to do with the missing key alteration order? May be an 
extension/redesign of maqam.ly is necessary? Help would be appreciated!


On 21.02.2016 13:27, Simon Albrecht wrote:

On 21.02.2016 12:54, BB wrote:
At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is 
very peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter tone. 
Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic notation 
section dealing with the special case of quarter tone notation! 


You’re welcome to come up with a better example and post it on the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, with a concise description what exactly it 
is for and why it is better.


Best, Simon



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How to correctly use ly:warning-located?

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello,

the doc string for ly:warning-located says

‘Function: ly:warning-located location str rest
A Scheme callable function to issue the warning str at the specified 
location in an input file. The message is formatted with format and rest.’


However, with this example

%%%
\version "2.19.36"

m =
#(define-music-function ()()
   (ly:warning-located *location* "Here, \\m should be replaced with 
\\melisma.")

   #{ \melisma #})

<<
  {
c'1\m d\melismaEnd
  }
  \addlyrics { test test }
>>


I get

document.ly:5:4: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting string): 
#


What is the correct way?

TIA, Simon

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Re: Install on linux

[Hwaen Ch'uqi]

Greetings Peter,

When I install LilyPond, I use the --prefix flag and direct it to be
installed in folder /usr/ In this way, the bin files will be created
in the proper places. The "down side" is that the directories of the
.el files and .info files will need to be explicitly stated somewhere
in order for them to be usable. In my case, the former is stated in my
.emacs file, and the latter is reflected in the main dir file of the
/usr/share/info folder. This is a bit more manual work, but the
benefit is that, whenever you install the latest LilyPond version
(which the ubuntu's repository will likely not find), you should not
have to make those adjustments again.

Hwaen Ch'uqi


On 2/21/16, Jean Bréfort  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why don't you directly use the lilypond package?
> sudo apt-get install lilypond
>
> The installation would be clean.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Jean
>
> Le dimanche 21 février 2016 à 13:13 +0100, Peter O'Doherty a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on the
>> website i.e.
>> cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
>> sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh
>> )
>> it installs two folders in my home directory, lilypond and bin.
>> What's
>> the best way to organise these? Should I just put the bin in the
>> lilypond folder and move that to .local/share or /usr/share?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>> //=
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Re: Install on linux

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.02.2016 13:18, Jean Bréfort wrote:

Why don't you directly use the lilypond package?
sudo apt-get install lilypond


You might end up with a more or less old LilyPond version.

Best, Simon

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Re: Install on linux

[J Martin Rushton]

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Hi,

As Jean suggests, use apt-get if you are allowed to, you'll need to be
root.  If you have to install the package without privilege, then
~/bin seems pretty normal.  Many users will have a ~/bin directory
with it entered on their $PATH where they can drop odd scripts - so it
seems pretty reasonable for the lilypond executable to be put there.

HTH,
Martin

On 21/02/16 12:18, Jean Bréfort wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Why don't you directly use the lilypond package? sudo apt-get
> install lilypond
> 
> The installation would be clean.
> 
> Hope this helps, Jean
> 
> Le dimanche 21 février 2016 à 13:13 +0100, Peter O'Doherty a écrit
> :
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on
>> the website i.e. cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY sh
>> lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh ) it installs two folders in my home
>> directory, lilypond and bin. What's the best way to organise
>> these? Should I just put the bin in the lilypond folder and move
>> that to .local/share or /usr/share?
>> 
>> Thanks, Peter
>> 
>> //= // Peter O'Doherty //
>> http://www.peterodoherty.net // m...@peterodoherty.net 
>> //=
>> 
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Re: Install on linux

[Malte Meyn]

Am 21.02.2016 um 13:21 schrieb Malte Meyn:

You should either install as root (using sudo):

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sudo sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh



Advantage: You (and all other users) can start lilypond directly from 
terminal etc. without changing PATH/make it known to Frescobaldi, …



or specify another installation directory (f. e. ~/LP2.18.2 instead of ~):

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh --prefix ~/LP2.18.2



Advantage: You can install several different versions of LilyPond.

I use this second method: I’ve installed five different versions and 
make all of them known to Frescobaldi; Frescobaldi will then choose the 
used version according to the \version statement.


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Re: manual Makam example

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.02.2016 12:54, BB wrote:
At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is 
very peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter tone. 
Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic notation 
section dealing with the special case of quarter tone notation! 


You’re welcome to come up with a better example and post it on the 
bug-lilypond mailing list, with a concise description what exactly it is 
for and why it is better.


Best, Simon

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Re: Install on linux

[Malte Meyn]

Am 21.02.2016 um 13:18 schrieb Jean Bréfort:

Why don't you directly use the lilypond package?
sudo apt-get install lilypond

The installation would be clean.



This only works for packaged LilyPond versions ;)


Le dimanche 21 février 2016 à 13:13 +0100, Peter O'Doherty a écrit :

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh


You should either install as root (using sudo):

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sudo sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh

or specify another installation directory (f. e. ~/LP2.18.2 instead of ~):

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh --prefix ~/LP2.18.2

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Re: Install on linux

[Jean Bréfort]

Hi,

Why don't you directly use the lilypond package?
sudo apt-get install lilypond

The installation would be clean.

Hope this helps,
Jean

Le dimanche 21 février 2016 à 13:13 +0100, Peter O'Doherty a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on the 
> website i.e.
> cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
> sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh
> )
> it installs two folders in my home directory, lilypond and bin.
> What's 
> the best way to organise these? Should I just put the bin in the 
> lilypond folder and move that to .local/share or /usr/share?
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter
> 
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Install on linux

[Peter O'Doherty]

Hi,

When I install lilypond on Ubuntu (following the instructions on the 
website i.e.

cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY
sh lilypond-2.18.2-OS-TYPE.sh
)
it installs two folders in my home directory, lilypond and bin. What's 
the best way to organise these? Should I just put the bin in the 
lilypond folder and move that to .local/share or /usr/share?


Thanks,
Peter

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Fwd: manual Makam example

[BB]

ADDON:
With this snippet example with .BAKIYE I have the turkish style - better 
than nothing.


But how to get the arabic style?


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Subject:manual Makam example
Date:   Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:54:44 +0100
From:   BB 
To: lilypond-user Mailinglist 



I needed the (seldom used) makam saba - not predefined in the maqam 
group. So I consulted the manual.


At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is very 
peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter tone. 
Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic notation 
section dealing with the special case of quarter tone notation!


At least I found a useful example for keyAlterations in subchapter 
"Makam example" of the chapter "World music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/world-music.

I would recommend to add a copy of that snippet to the subchapter 
"Selected Snippets" of chapter "2.10.2 Arabic music". That would be a 
time saver ...


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manual Makam example

[BB]

I needed the (seldom used) makam saba - not predefined in the maqam 
group. So I consulted the manual.


At the end of subchapter "Arabic key signatures" in chapter "2.10.2 
Arabic music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/arabic-music
there is in subchapter "Selected Snippets" a snippet example. It is very 
peculiar that in this example is not even a single quarter tone. 
Peculiar and totally displaced and useless in this arabic notation 
section dealing with the special case of quarter tone notation!


At least I found a useful example for keyAlterations in subchapter 
"Makam example" of the chapter "World music" on page

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/world-music.

I would recommend to add a copy of that snippet to the subchapter 
"Selected Snippets" of chapter "2.10.2 Arabic music". That would be a 
time saver ... 
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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[David Kastrup]

Carl-Henrik Buschmann  writes:

> To use [ ] on the entire piece is simply not acceptable and surely not
> the way lilypond should work.

To beam or not to beam is a decision.  Beaming across rests requires a
rather dedicated decision.  The autobeamer caters rather for the cases
where the composer does _not_ make an explicit decision.

LilyPond has a number of possibilities to avoid repetitive entry
however.  You can, for example, use something like

<< \mymusic
   \repeat unfold 32 { s8[ s s s] }
>>

to add explicit beams in parallel to some passage written in eights.  Of
course, this beam right across everything.

> I found that it is possible to use:
>
>  \set Timing.beatStructure = #'(2 2)
> (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams
> )
>
> which I have tried putting in my global variable. As i showed in my
> first post, this break the beams. Any ideas how to make the beams
> automaticly span 4 8s?

The documentation is quite explicit that automatic beams will not span
rests.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Noeck]

Does this explain it?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns
and search for "Known issues and warnings"

HTH
Joram

Am 21.02.2016 um 09:50 schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann:
> I'm afraid i dont fully understand. When i put \grace s8 in my voices it
> still produces double timesignatures.
> 
> 
> Med vennlig hilsen,
> Carl-Henrik Buschmann
> /Lektor/

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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Noeck]

Hi Carl-Henrik,

the snippets can be quite helpful:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets
and online search if you can guess the name.

> 1) The title. Is there a sensibale way to adjust font/fontsize and
> placement of the title? (this is most likely an easy thing, but it would
> be nice to hear how you guys deal with it)

If it is just about the font size, this is probably the easiest way:
\header {
  title = \markup \abs-fontsize #30 "ABC"
}
If you want to create your own style of the header, here you go:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/creating-titles-headers-and-footers
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/titles

> 2) This is the wierdest thing. Double up of time, clef and tempo, what
> is on earth have i done wrong? 

\grace s8 as Urs pointed out. That's indeed ugly.

> 3) I want the beams to and from rests, with stemlets, like
> so: http://i.imgur.com/62wXphp.png 

This can help you:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-stemlets

{
  \override Stem.stemlet-length = 0.75
  r8[ gis']
}

However, this requires manual beaming with [ ], IIUC.

> 4) I want the beams to stretch 4 8ths and break if necessary. My puny
> attempt thus far looks bonkers. 

You explicitly put the beaming there:
https://github.com/chbuschmann/Nordlandsk/blob/master/stemmer/fiolin%201.ly#L7
 a16.[\f gis32] a16. b32

This means the a is beamed with gis32 and then the beam has to stop. So
exactly what you get. For a longer beam, you can do either
{
  \time 2/4
  a16.[\f gis32 a16. b32 c8-. < b gis' e' >]\fz |  % manual with [ ]
  % or
  \set Staff.beatStructure = #'(2) % beams last 2 beats
  a16.\f gis32 a16. b32 c8-. < b gis' e' >\fz
}
% see http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/beams

> 5) I tried making a scordatura using a snippet from LRS. Perhaps my eyes
> are playing tricks with me, the font size seems off, to large?

You have a \large here which makes the instrument name larger than the
others:
https://github.com/chbuschmann/Nordlandsk/blob/master/main.ly#L37
Just remove it.

> %%General questions
> 6) I also wonder about parts creation. How do i set it up? 

see 9)

> 7) When i did the Sibelius engraving, i came to the conclution that A3
> was the proper page format. Once i've entered my music, will lilypond
> scale the score to fill the entire page, like it does with A4, OR; do i
> need to make adjustments to font and/or staff sizes?

It will fill the paper format you specify while keeping the font and
staff sizes as you set them (or default 20).
\paper {
  #(set-paper-size "a3")
}
If that's what you intend, you can also scale the global staff size by
sqrt(2) to 28.28, of course.

> 8) I've searched far and wide but have not found a way to make
> large/huge time signatures. This is what i really want (from
> Adler): http://i.imgur.com/Jn971jP.png 

There are people on this list who know how to do that. I have seen it
before, but I couldn't find it so quickly.

> 9) Where to i place system wide events, like 
> repetitions, 

As far as I know, repeats must go into each part (voice). However, for
rehearsal marks and
> time and
> tempo?
it is recommended to put them in to a global variable with spacers:
global  = { \time 2/4 s1*8 \mark "A" }

Then you can come back to the parts creation:
You start a new file for each part, let's say the violin I, with a
\score block and you put your global variable and your music variable
(\fiolinEn) of that instrument into it.

\include "stemmer/fiolin 1.ly"
\score {
  \new Staff << \global \fiolinEn >>
}


You ask your questions very clearly. That makes it easy to answer. I
hope this was helpful. Please don't hesitate to ask back in case of
questions.

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Carl-Henrik Buschmann]

I'm afraid i dont fully understand. When i put \grace s8 in my voices it still 
produces double timesignatures.


Med vennlig hilsen,
Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Lektor


> 21. feb. 2016 kl. 08.56 skrev Urs Liska :
> 
> 
> 
> Am 21. Februar 2016 08:25:22 MEZ, schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann 
> >:
>> I found that it was 
>> \slashedGrace {b8}
>> that caused the whole double time signature thing. I can only assume it
>> is a bug. I still need a acciaccatura though. Any thoughts?
> 
> This is one of the *oldest* and most embarassing bugs, yes.
> 
> What you need to do is put a grace construct in *every* context, using spacer 
> tests to make it invisible. E.g. \grace s8
> 
> HTH
> Urs
>> 
>> 
>> Med vennlig hilsen,
>> Carl-Henrik Buschmann
>> Lektor
>> 
>> 
>>> 20. feb. 2016 kl. 22.02 skrev Carl-Henrik Buschmann
>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to learn how to use lilypond to typeset orchestral
>> material. Handling large projects is fun but good documentation
>> regarding this is hard to come by. I'm still a lilypond novice and my
>> Google-Fu has let me down, I need help. 
>>> 
>>> I'm using my own orchestration which i engraved in Sibelius a while
>> back.
>>> 
>>> This is my original sibelius score i.e.: the "ideal":
>>> http://i.imgur.com/fIQJN8v.png  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> And this is my lilypond output so far:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/g2OL258.png 
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> 2) This is the wierdest thing. Double up of time, clef and tempo,
>> what is on earth have i done wrong? 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: How to work with large orchestral1 projects

[Carl-Henrik Buschmann]

To use [ ] on the entire piece is simply not acceptable and surely not the way 
lilypond should work.

I found that it is possible to use:

 \set Timing.beatStructure = #'(2 2) 
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams 
)

which I have tried putting in my global variable. As i showed in my first post, 
this break the beams. Any ideas how to make the beams automaticly span 4 8s?


Med vennlig hilsen,
Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Lektor


> 20. feb. 2016 kl. 22.02 skrev Carl-Henrik Buschmann :
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm trying to learn how to use lilypond to typeset orchestral material. 
> Handling large projects is fun but good documentation regarding this is hard 
> to come by. I'm still a lilypond novice and my Google-Fu has let me down, I 
> need help. 
> 
> 4) I want the beams to stretch 4 8ths and break if necessary. My puny attempt 
> thus far looks bonkers. 
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