Re: moving dynamics
2007/12/18, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I always remove the old version first when upgrading, don't remember if it's strictly necessary but I think so. Yes, on install it refuses to continue if it finds an older version installed. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ugly fonts in 2.11.36
2007/12/18, Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2007-12/msg00153.html for a temporary solution. I have copied the eight type1\*.pfa files (24Kb each) to c:\windows\fonts directory. Now accented characters are properly viewed but the font is still apparently Verdana. No errors in log this time. Am I copying the wrong files? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: making the actual music
2007/12/18, henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i just downloaded this today, and tried fiddling with a few notes...i just can't figure out how to make the actual sheet music document. What operating system do you use? If it's Windows, first locate your saved score file, it looks as a black musical note. Then launch its icon. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Centering common lyrics vertically
2007/12/18, Hannes Kuhnert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have lyrics in two staves and also common lyrics for both staves and I'd
like to have that common lyrics vertically centered. I don't know yet how to
do that. It would be easy if the number of staves was odd …
I haven't found anything suitable in the snippet directory, but I have two
ideas for getting it done:
• One could use a third lyrics context for the common lyrics and get that
context in the right position.
• One could put the common lyrics in one of the staves and move that parts a
bit up or down to get it centered.
Can anyone tell my how to do that or something different to get the lyrics
centered?
This is very possible and there are tricks to do it. This example
comes from Valentin Villenave, I think.
%begin
\version 2.11.34
%\include english.ly
%leftbrace = \markup { \override #'(font-encoding . fetaBraces)
\lookup #brace240 }
%rightbrace = \markup { \rotate #180 \leftbrace }
dropLyrics =
{
\override LyricText #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5)
\override LyricHyphen #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5)
\override LyricExtender #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5)
}
raiseLyrics =
{
\revert LyricText #'extra-offset
\revert LyricHyphen #'extra-offset
\revert LyricExtender #'extra-offset
}
skipFour = \repeat unfold 4 { \skip 8 }
lyricsA = \lyricmode { The first verse has \dropLyrics the com -- mon
__ words \raiseLyrics used in all four. }
lyricsB = \lyricmode { In stan -- za two, \skipFour al -- so ap -- pear. }
lyricsC = \lyricmode { By the third verse, \skipFour are get -- ting dull. }
lyricsD = \lyricmode { Last stan -- za, and \skipFour get used once more. }
melody = \relative c' { c4 d e f g f e8( e f) d4 c e d c }
\score
{
\new Voice = m \melody
\new Lyrics \lyricsto m \lyricsA
\new Lyrics \lyricsto m \lyricsB
\new Lyrics \lyricsto m \lyricsC
\new Lyrics \lyricsto m \lyricsD
}
%end
I'm pretty sure that you'll want the common lyrics to be higher (i.e.
not centered but right below the staff) whnenever they are alone in a
system. And you'll want to do it automatically, this is: that LP
detects automatically when a system break has occurred and change the
baseline of the lyrics fot itself. This would be possible but very
deep knowledge of scheme is needed so I am out of this matter (still)
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Re: Ugly fonts in 2.11.36
2007/12/17, Cesar Penagos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm win. XP user, and recently upgrade from 2.11.34 to 2.11.36. and for my surprise the fonts are totally changed in this version; from the very nice Century; to an horrendous Arial or maybe Courier font in the time signatures, the text all, and lyrics. Is this a new font to be used with LP? Is a Bug?. I confirm the same here on wXP. Also accented characters or eñe 'ñÑ' do not show. Error logs say something about Pango. The latter is not new; accented characters broke in 2.11.35. The new sans serif font is a nouveauté in 2.11.36. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamics used in MIDI output?
I can't play any instrument, so I'm trying to use Lilypond to make accompaniment music to sing along to. Although we _do_ support dynamics in MIDI, I can't claim that we have particularly good MIDI support... I hate to say it, but it might be better to look at using a different program if your primary goal is audio playback. In my windows era, I used to do fairly complex MIDI arrangments and my primary source of notes was a Finale score exported as MIDI. I think you could very well use lilypond syntax only to enter notes discarding any PDF output. Remember that LP is a valid coding scheme for music, along with a typesetting engine. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two output questions
2007/12/11, Jim Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This program is wonderful. I really enjoy using it. I have two output questions however. I've written a very simple hymn and used lilypond to get it onto paper. I am wondering about the *.ps files that are generated. I think I've figured out that they are acutally image files. What is the minimum program I need from Adobe to view those images or use them directly outside of the pdf format? Right now I'm working around by using a pdf to tiff converter, but would like to create a 1/2 page insert for the bulletin in a more direct way. Firstly, the PostScript file is an intermediate rendering of the score, then used to obtain the PDF file from it. You can ignore or delete it if you have got a proper PDF. Secondly, if you need a bitmap image from the score, use the --png commandline option, http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command_002dline-usage#Command_002dline-usage With the ghostscript/gsview combination for Windows you can view the PS files and also export to bitmap from them, from inside of this program. It is not from Adobe. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond slowness?
2007/11/30, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ps. what funky business is the uninstaller up to, given that it seems to be a magnitude slower to uninstall the files than install them ? True! but only in Windows. In Linux it is almost instantaneous. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Prall in brackets? (mordents as well)
2007/11/27, Boris Dušek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
typesetting prall works just fine, but what should I do if I want to
typeset the prall in brackets? I got inspired by the dynamics
documentation on forte in brackets[1], but that did not work:
a \markup{\bracket{\prall}}
Try
a^\markup{\bracket{\musicglyph #scripts.prall }}
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Re: barline thickness
2007/11/25, till [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Francisco Vila-5 wrote: Here I attach two samples scanned from paper. Details below. My question is simply: am I the only person with this problem? Others would be, Is lilypond generating wrong PDFs? Is my printer wrong? Is ubuntu gutsy evince wrongly printing PDFs? I had the same problem today and it is clearly a bug of the pdf rendering library of evince. I manage to print with kpdf and acroread nowadays. Look also at the staff braces at the beginning of a vocal score: the small brackets at the top and bottom are not cleanly aligned to the black vertical bar in a print from within evince. When printing with kpdf this problem dissappeares. (The bar lines are still a bit thicker than the horizontal lines, but it looks as if this is intended.) Thank you very much. BTW, strange enough, that nobody else noticed this until today, being Evince the standard PDF viewer in Gnome. Today, while searching for a solution, I've noticed that the page preview of Evince already showed the problem, before the actual printing. So it is clear that it was not a driver- or printer- problem (provided that print preview is not done using the PPD of the printer in some strange way, sorry for my naïveness about this) -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Downloading music encoded in LilyPad
2007/11/24, Roger and Myra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I often download music from CPDL and other places. Sometimes, the music is available as LilyPad as well as midi PDF. I downloaded the LilyPad program so I could get music in a form where I can transpose, extract parts etc., but I can't make it go! When I click on LilyPad after a score I want, I get a bunch of text. Is that normal? If so, then what? This text is your music, coded in a form (called LilyPond input language, not LilyPad) that the LilyPond program itself compiles into the PDF and MIDI forms. In theory you could save the file with a .ly extension and make LilyPond to process it. If you want to learn the language, please read carefully the tutorials and other documentation in the lilypond.org website, and you'll certainly be able to do whatever you want with these scores. Ask here for further clarifying. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.35 does not run
2007/11/22, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just verified that 2.11.35-2 (I released a -2 yesterday)... Thank you, now it works and it seems to be much faster. Or, is it only a sensation of mine? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
barline thickness
Here I attach two samples scanned from paper. Details below. My question is simply: am I the only person with this problem? Others would be, Is lilypond generating wrong PDFs? Is my printer wrong? Is ubuntu gutsy evince wrongly printing PDFs? Details: laserjet-png.png comes from a PNG generated by LilyPond with the --png -dresolution=600 commandline options. laserjet-pdf.png comes from a PDF generated by LilyPond. Both images are printed on a laserjet P2015dn at the default resolution (FastRes). This is 600dpi I think. Then I scanned the printed papers at 300 dpi. Clearly the PDF has a barline MUCH thicker than the PNG and it's not a matter of resolution (other vertical lines look fine). Wider views are available in: http://www.paconet.org/laserjet-png.png http://www.paconet.org/laserjet-pdf.png Thank you. My workaround these days is to generate and print only PNGs, but windows users also report this problem in other systems and printers. 2007/11/19, Paco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El Sun, 18 de Nov de 2007, a las 10:50:47PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson dijo: Paco Vila wrote: In 2.11.34, I've found that default barline thickness is a bit too thick, even printed at 1200 dpi. Where is this default set? I'm sorry but I still have not managed to override it thinner. In the section on Bar Lines in the on-line manual, click on BarLine at the bottom of the page to see a list of properties that are set by default on the BarLine object. This includes, among others a property called hair-thickness with default value 1.9. To change that setting, add \override Score.BarLine #'hair-thickness = #1.5 in your code... Yes, thank you, but I think my problem is more serious than I thought. Barlines appear much, much thicker on printed paper than on PDF or PNG! Leftmost barline (the one on the left edge of the staff) appears thin, just like the staff lines. But standard barlines seem to be five or six times as thick; moreover, (try to explain well, Paco) their top and bottom ends are higher (and lower, respectively) than the topmost (resp. lowest) staff line, surpassing the system in length, as if they were surrounded by a rounded outline. On next days I'll try to scan a prined copy to show you what I'm saying. I have a recent Laserjet driven by PS drivers (I've heard that it works internally with PCL anyway). Has anybody a similar problem? Maybe it's just my printer. She doesn't seem to like LP too much. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org attachment: detail-laserjet-pdf.pngattachment: detail-laserjet-png.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanning bar lines in mensural notation
2007/11/21, erminia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Using StaffGroup was already a first step, thank you.
Now I am still worried about lyrics clashing with bar lines as in the
following example:
Here is a smaller one:
%begin
\version 2.11.34
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff { c'8 c' c' c' c' c' c' c'
c' c' c' c' c' c' c' c' }
\addlyrics { a a a a a a a a schwartz c c c c c c c }
\new Staff { c'1 c'1 } \addlyrics { a schwartz }
%\layout{
%\context {
% \Lyrics
%\consists Bar_engraver
%}
% }
% see bug 501 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=501
% end
If you uncomment the layout block (what means to welcome the bar
engraver into the lyrics context) there is no clashing. Be careful
because this causes tiny barlines of one dot in height to be printed.
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Re: 2.11.35 does not run
2007/11/21, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Paul Scott wrote: Paco Vila wrote: GNU LilyPond 2.11.35 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path I promise further testing. switching back to .De34 works fine. Works fine on my Debian sid system. Paul I get the same error reported by Paco on Macintosh PPC-Darwin, OS 10.4.11. Stan Does not work in Windows XP either. Guile library not found, IIRC, I'm sorry for not being more precise. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
barline thickness
El Sun, 18 de Nov de 2007, a las 10:50:47PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson dijo: Paco Vila wrote: In 2.11.34, I've found that default barline thickness is a bit too thick, even printed at 1200 dpi. Where is this default set? I'm sorry but I still have not managed to override it thinner. In the section on Bar Lines in the on-line manual, click on BarLine at the bottom of the page to see a list of properties that are set by default on the BarLine object. This includes, among others a property called hair-thickness with default value 1.9. To change that setting, add \override Score.BarLine #'hair-thickness = #1.5 in your code... Yes, thank you, but I think my problem is more serious than I thought. Barlines appear much, much thicker on printed paper than on PDF or PNG! Leftmost barline (the one on the left edge of the staff) appears thin, just like the staff lines. But standard barlines seem to be five or six times as thick; moreover, (try to explain well, Paco) their top and bottom ends are higher (and lower, respectively) than the topmost (resp. lowest) staff line, surpassing the system in length, as if they were surrounded by a rounded outline. On next days I'll try to scan a prined copy to show you what I'm saying. I have a recent Laserjet driven by PS drivers (I've heard that it works internally with PCL anyway). Has anybody a similar problem? Maybe it's just my printer. She doesn't seem to like LP too much. UPDATE: other vertical lines look fine. Only barlines are almost as heavy as beams, if not equal. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: keep separate pdf files?
2007/11/15, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Percival wrote: Since the GDP docs are spread over the LM, NR, AU, and snippets -- not to mention MG and IR -- what about making a tarball / zip which contained all these manuals, and removing the download links for individual PDFs? This would avoid problems with people downloading only the LM and discovering all the links which wouldn't work. True! On the other hand, downloading a ZIP requires somewhat more computer experience than just clicking on a link to a PDF file, so I'm not sure we should remove the current links. /Mats Please remember that Adobe reader can be installed as a browser plugin, in this case PDF links between different documents would work. I have seen links into PDFs that even have javascript scripts, e.g. history-go-back to the previous document. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: church rests
2007/11/15, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15 Nov 2007, at 14:24, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Hindemith suggests using |---| with a number over for rests of nine measures or longer. 9 |---| The default rule in LilyPond is to do this for 11 measures or longer, see section Multi measure rests in the manual for information on how to change this value. For the term church rests, Finale for example simply says use symbols for multimeasure rests up to nine measures -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: church rests
2007/11/15, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15 Nov 2007, at 17:19, Francisco Vila wrote: For the term church rests, Finale for example simply says use symbols for multimeasure rests up to nine measures Hindemith's book has the diagram above, so it is clear that he would use it for rests of length 9 measures. Hans Åberg Here I do not advocate for the number 9, but for the word symbols -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in the AEC congress, Strasbourg
2007/11/14, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be very much interested in translating your presentation in French; could you tell me if it would be possible? The best would be to make it as a multimedia file; if you have a recording of your presentation I'd be glad to add French subtitles and synchronize it with the translated slides. Consider it as Public Domain. Here is a link to the latex-beamer source code: http://www.paconet.org/lilypond-translation-es/aec-congress-lilypond.lytex I'm afraid all I have are some out-of-focus pictures, no video. For a live presentation you could add it is..., it has..., it has been... before each line and very short comments after. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond in the AEC congress, Strasbourg
2007/11/14, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/11/14, Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Consider it as Public Domain. Here is a link to the latex-beamer source code: http://www.paconet.org/lilypond-translation-es/aec-congress-lilypond.lytex Great! I have translated it, but AFAICT a picture is missing: imagen1.png Put whatever PNG image you want here: it will appear on front cover. It was a draft for the one appearing in our home page (which I also built and maintain) http://www.dip-badajoz.es/cultura/conservatorio I'm afraid all I have are some out-of-focus pictures, no video. For a live presentation you could add it is..., it has..., it has been... before each line and very short comments after. Yes, I get it. I will (but I don't know how to make the presentation as a video file, all I can get is a PDF; how do you manage the slides etc? What's needed?). You need one of these: http://images.google.com/images?q=multimedia%20projector Connect it to the monitor output of a PC. Just open the file with your favourite PDF viewer. With evince you can press F5 to switch on presentation mode. Pass slides witk the spacebar, rigth arrow, down arrow, or Return keys. I must say that fot the Strasbourg presentation they converted my neat PDF to PowerPoint, and overlays (\pauses) were lost. Not a grave issue, though. Besides, I could use more informations about the situation at Badajoz; do pupils use LilyPond? What else could they use? ;-) Students do not have the money to buy Finale and nor I neither my institution are going to give them it. And, I think LilyPond is better. Are there political decisions behind it? As for the statement in page 24 of 29 of my PDF, yes. They even made a new Linux distribution, gnuLinEx. Then I said to myself: if public elementary schools dive into Linux, I could dive into LilyPond! It has been a decission only of me and AFAICT we are the first conservatoire in Spain to do it. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond in the AEC congress, Strasbourg
Last Saturday I had the opportunity to give a short presentation on a real-world case of the use of free software for music education, in the frame of the 2007 AEC [1] congress, Strasbourg. The PDF is viewable through [2] I know that LP is a 10+ years old project but in my social environment it is a very new option to say hasta la vista to proprietary software in --music-- education. Next year I hope to be able to present the outcomes of this year's experience. Maybe I should have waited to your comments on the presentation before exposing it but I had not the time. I even don't know how to properly pronounce LilyPond in English! :-) Comments are welcome. Thank you! [1] The European Association of Conservatoires, http://www.aecinfo.org/ [2] http://www.paconet.org/csmb/aec-congress-lilypond.pdf -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Concept for Newbies
2007/11/6, Francois Planiol-Auger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So know I still good remember this begin and can offer to help that kind of people, one at a time. The topics are: Who feels like me here? And: How will musicians know of it? I think some things you can do are: - Promote this list, invite potential users and answer their questions. - Build CD-ROMs complete with binaries and documentation, and give them to interested people, as a gift - Write your own tutorials and publish them in the LilyPondWiki. - Share printed examples and web links with your friends. - Offer yourself to retranscribe existing music thus improving its look - Learn yourself as much as you can, to quickly resolve problems from others, write how to turn yourself into a lilypond guru in ten lessons - Retain the complete manuals in your memory, if you can (CAUTION: not before the GDP is finished :-) -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \fermata and \markup over a note
This works:
{
a, e2\fermata-\markup { div. }
}
You have to attach the markup with the '-' just like an articulation.
2007/10/22, Charles Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I need to have booth a fermata and a div. sign over a diad, how do I
get this?
a, e2\fermata\markup { div. }
gives me an error message.
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Re: GDP: introducing examples
2007/10/19, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 19 Oct 2007, at 14:37, Mats Bengtsson wrote: What you describe sounds like the LSR, which already now has free text search facilities (at least if you stay connected). So how do you find the LSR?... You have the link into the main documentaion page http://lilypond.org/web/documentation and it links to http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Church Rests
2007/10/19, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the section on multi-measure rests the manual talks about church rests, meaning the use of increasing numbers of little rectangles to indicate how many measures are included in the multi-measure rest. In this a generally accepted musical term, or one invented for lily? They are completely usual in orchestral parts since I can remember. Possibly their origin are the choral parts, but as you probably know, choral scores are now usually read in full score, not parts. Church rests were best read in past centuries when the typical written note durations were longer than now are. I can be wrong, though. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: forum?
There is http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general as well. 2007/10/18, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What, like this? http://www.nabble.com/Gnu---Lilypond---User-f1722.html Cheers, - Graham -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: is it possible to glue two staff's together? (hymn solution)
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Re: C Cleft
2007/10/5, Tim Litwiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I make a song with \clef c a flat on the top staff the notes are 1/2 line off from where they are expected to be. The notes in C clef are 1/2 line off from where they are expected to be in G clef, but they are exactly where they are expected to be in C clef. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: make score be line break aware
2007/10/1, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:55:46 Francisco Vila wrote: Hello. Is this possible? I want to typeset something (like a spanner or a different height of the lyrics baseline) that I want to last only until it reaches the next line break. If only I could explain it well, it would be a sort of intelligent tweak that 'knows' when a line break has happened and it then kills himself. There would be as liquid layout as possible meaning that layout does not interfere with content, i.e. making an explicit \break would not be an optimal solution. Does the Difficult Tweaks section in the manual have the sort of thing you want? Yes! Only that's too much Scheme for me. Thank you! I'll try to dive into Scheme sooner or later. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book -- almost there...
2007/10/2, Eyolf Østrem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. Is there a way to automatize the process? E.g. in Kile, vim, or You can obtain a reasonable degree of automation using the 'make' utility. Search for Marcus Brinkmann, (marcus dot brinkmann at rub dot de) for a nice example of how to use it on a complete book (Slave Songs of the United States, 1867) -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
make score be line break aware
Hello. Is this possible? I want to typeset something (like a spanner or a different height of the lyrics baseline) that I want to last only until it reaches the next line break. If only I could explain it well, it would be a sort of intelligent tweak that 'knows' when a line break has happened and it then kills himself. There would be as liquid layout as possible meaning that layout does not interfere with content, i.e. making an explicit \break would not be an optimal solution. BTW this is about my project with alternate lyrics. The original score I have does this because the mid-hight lyrics baseline (after the two alternatives) is not needed anymore after the line break. I could attach a scan if you want. Thank you! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Proper use of Devnull
2007/10/1, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope you have read section Lyrics to multiple notes of a melisma which (in spite of its name) also deals with the situation you are asking about. You're right. I was mistaken in belief that the only approach was Divisi lyrics that deals with different melodies, not a single one as I wanted. My second question is, how to change the default left alignment for melismata texts? Imagine the situation I mentioned where alternate lyrics with different melismata want to be equally centered on their noteheads. I'd like to center all of them regardless of this. In fact I'dl like to center all texts, all the time. Is it possible? In some recent development version, 2.11.x, a new context property has been added lyricMelismaAlignment, which seems to answer this question. Try \set lyricMelismaAlignment = #CENTER at the top of your lyrics (I haven't tried it myself). It works, thank you. It was the last modification to lyric-engraver.cc, 2007-07-29 and appeared in LP 2.11.29. I think it is not in the manual. When I finish the transcription I'll send to you, it's a beautiful duo of Juan Vázquez, born in Badajoz. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Proper use of Devnull
Hello all,
I'm trying to typeset a song that has two lyrics with different melismata in
the same melody.
I've found that the Devnull context may help, but I don't know why the
lyrics associated to it appears with a slight displacement to the right (see
attached PNG).
% \version 2.11.32
one = { c'1 }
two = { d'1 }
oneLyrics = \lyricmode { One }
twoLyrics = \lyricmode { Two }
\score {
\new Voice { \one } \addlyrics { \oneLyrics }
\new Devnull = hidden { \two }% \addlyrics { \twoLyrics }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto hidden { \twoLyrics }
}
From my limited knowledge it appears to be in voiceTwo, how is it forced to
be voiceOne?
Also, if I uncomment the \addlyrics of the hidden part (and comment out the
third line instead), then the hidden staff gets printed on its own staff
(and properly aligned as a voiceOne). Why?
I'd thank a clue for learning it by myself, but maybe the manual is too
terse in this matter.
Thank you!
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Re: Proper use of Devnull
2007/9/29, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to some bug reports (specifically about shifted lyrics with devnull), devnull is not the proper solution to use. Oh. I've seen it (your last comment is only two days old). I see this is not a Medium priority Defect anymore but a Low priority Enhancement. A pity, IMO. Anyway, I still have two questions. From the great examples around I still cannot see how to do alternate Lyrics when the melody is the same but melismata are different fot each one. My second question is, how to change the default left alignment for melismata texts? Imagine the situation I mentioned where alternate lyrics with different melismata want to be equally centered on their noteheads. I'd like to center all of them regardless of this. In fact I'dl like to center all texts, all the time. Is it possible? Thank you. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tuplets
2007/9/26, Diosnel Herrnsdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Doesn't anybody use the term irregular values/figures? That's the general term I learned waay back (actually, it was figuras irregulares). I'd not recommend that term because these note values can, in fact, be perfectly regular, i.e. evenly spaced. Being widely used, I think it's incorrect. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: translations
2007/9/25, michał poręba [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Then I will start translating the web page as you say. And later we will see if there is still time to do tutorial translation. I see that you are hard working on documentation, reorganising everything. How may I fit in it with my translation? Should I work as a easy helper? Should I send my translations every week? Francisco, how do you check (and how often) if the page you have translated has changed? Well, I didn't really translate the webpage. Daniel Tonda did. I have been working on the docs and I have to stop now because of the reorganisation. Please note again that the webpage is not the same as the documentation, and they build from different source files. I mean, the online HTML docs under the Documentation link _is_ built from the same source as the printable PDF, but the front webpage outside Documentation is different. They both share parts with slightly different writing, eg. Introducion chapter. The webpage outside Documentation does not seem to change too frequently. Docs are! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)
2007/9/24, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In French, no generic term exist; when we translated the documentation we had to create a rather ugly mathematical word: since the terms we use are triolet == meaning triplet quartolet quintolet etc... In Spanish there is a generic term but it's a bit long: grupos de valoración especial which I'd reverse translate to special timing groups. In the manual I have abbreviated it as grupos especiales Now maybe it would be the time to invent the word N-illo meaning TRESillo, CUATRillo etc. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: songbooks with guitar tablature
2007/8/23, Jack Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you wish to take a look at my songbook, go to www.jack-cooper.com/songbook and enter guest and guest as the userid and password. The songbook file is called lop_songbook.pdf. Great. But lilypond.com is a mixing tanks company, please change the URL in the book to lilypond.org ! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: simple postscript question
El Wed, 04 de Jul de 2007, a las 03:49:26PM -0600, Neil Thornock dijo: So, when I run the following postscript code from a .ps file, the line comes out square at the ends. Why, in Lily, does it appear rounded on the ends? How would I square off the ends in Lily? Postscript manual says setlinecap int setlinecap - sets shape of line ends (0=butt,1=round,2=square) Summary of all PostScript Commands http://www.ugrad.math.ubc.ca/Flat/summary.html I don't know if it will work in Lily. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: transpose
El Wed, 13 de Jun de 2007, a las 04:35:47PM +0200, lara diamand dijo:
So sorry to bother again, but it doesn't work.
I wrote:
\version 2.10.20
{ \transpose c' a
\key c \major
\time 4/4
{a b a }
}
And now I get an extra clef with 3 sharps and underneath the normal music.
Weird...
This is not what David wrote. Read it carefully and note that the the
transpose{} block includes the \key statement, that way you can transpose both
the notes and the key.
...Change this part
of your input:
\version 2.10.20
{\key c \major
\time 4/4
\transpose c' a
To this:
\version 2.10.20
\transpose c' a %% The \transpose must precede the \key etc.
{\key c \major
\time 4/4
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Re: parts from score or score from parts?
El lun, 09 de abr de 2007, a las 06:50:40 +0200, Peter Mogensen dijo: I usually maintain a seperate section defining the score from the different voice, which I edit when I need a different extract. However... this editing of the score file is tedious. Why not add a feature to lilypond where you can select to mute certain staffs or voices with a command line switch? If your parts are in a variable each, this score editing reduces to start the line with a '%' to hide a voice. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to start Lilypond
El lun, 19 de mar de 2007, a las 01:33:45 +0100, Francisco Vila dijo: If you do this, you WILL have a test.ly.txt file and it will NOT be associated with lilypond because of its extension. Really you can simply open notepad and save the document as whatever.ly and it will keep its given filename extension, so it should work as a lilypond file. It would be nice if LilyPond, besides its context menu entry generate PDF... would also add a new-lilypond text file entry in the right-click mouse menu. This would simplify things a lot, I think. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to start Lilypond
El sáb, 17 de mar de 2007, a las 10:48:24 +, Ed Ardzinski dijo: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I downloaded the Lilypond today, but the exe-file eludes me. How do I start the Lilypond programme? I use Microsoft xp. You can read the manual, but I understand that it's sometimes tough to get started. Lilypond works more like a programming language. I am assuming that the newer version work similar to the version I use (2.6.5). You create your script file with any text editor, but make sure it is plain text (a word processing program will add garbage that LP will not recognize). Save the text file with a .ly extension, and if the program is installed correctly you should be able to double click on the file icon in Windows Explorer to invoke Lilypond. You can also right click on the file and you should see Generate PDF. Maybe it needs to be clearer in the manual how to be sure that your file calls test.ly and not test.ly.txt on Windows. It's important if you are a smart user, to view the extension of the filenames (those three or more characters after a dot) and to be able to modify them. This is not the default in Windows after installing it, so you simply cannot install lilypond, create a .ly file on your desktop by right-click - new - text file and pretend it is a lilypond document. If you do this, you WILL have a test.ly.txt file and it will NOT be associated with lilypond because of its extension. So you'd have to go first to the tools menu in an explorer window, then choose Directroy options... (or whatever it is called in the english version of windows) and go to the view label, there you have to unselect the checkbox marked with something like hide extension from file types known to Windows. As the hide checkbox is unchecked you'll now be able to see and modify the filename extensions just by renaming the files. Now you can right-click - new - text file and call it test.ly, you'll get a warning but don't be scared, it really will not become unusable, rather it will now be associated with lilypond. Its icon will look like a somewhat ugly black-coloured eight-note. To edit them with the program of chioce, right-click on it and choose Open with... Notepad or whatever. You can also place a shortcut icon in the sendTo directory and then right-click -- send to... this entry. Or, first open your editor, then drag and drop your file icon inside it. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Spanish-speaking users
I would like to contact all spanish-speaking users in this list, just to have an estimation of how many of us are there, and possibly foundate a lilypond-user-spanish list. Here at the Conservatorio Superior de Musica de Badajoz we are teaching LilyPond to many students as an optative subject, both in mid-level studies (pre-college) and higher education. Thank you, -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
