Two problems with << ... >>: Forgetting dynamicUp and losing lyrics

[Joseph Haig]

Attached is a file showing two problems I have using << >> to
temporarily split a vocal part.

1) I have set \dynamicUp but this setting is ignored within the angled
brackets.  I could put \dynamicUp inside every set angled brackets,
but is it possible to set this globally?

2) The lyrics skip the section in angled brackets.  How can I fix this?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Newby - any recent postings?

[Joseph Haig]

This list is very active, and there have been several posts over the
last few days.  Perhaps there was a problem with your subscription, or
maybe posts are getting caught by your spam filter.

You can see an archive of the mailing list here:

  

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Problem starting multiple voices

[Joseph Haig]

As has already been mentioned, it is not possible to see what your
problem is without the actual code.  The following section of the
documentation, however, should show you what you need to do:

  

On 27/12/2007, Ed Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm new to lilypond. I'm trying to engrave a simple song with four voices on
> two staffs (saprano and alto on the treble staff and tenor and bass on the
> bass staff).
>
> The problem is the the two voices on a staff do not come in on the same
> note, but lilypond will not seem to work right unless they do. I have
> worked around the problem by putting in a leading rest, but this seems like
> a crufty hack, and to screws up the lyrics.
>
> What is the correct way to do this?
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> Thank you very much,
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Re: Latest Lilypond versions on Ubuntu?

[Joseph Haig]

On 09/01/2008, Jonas Nyström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Where can I find information about how to install the latest Lilypond
> versions on my Ubuntu machine?

I use Lilypond on Ubuntu and I just user the installer from
lilypond.org.  Get the latest from here:

  

and then in a console,

$ chmod +x lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh
$ sudo ./lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh

If you already have another version installed, it will give you
instructions for uninstalling it first.

> No problem with the .deb versions I've found, but they're a bit dated...

Dated, but not as dated as I thought.  I have just checked and
apparently, version 2.10.25 is available for Feisty - only 8 minor
versions old!  Last time I checked (Edgy, 2 versions older than
Feisty) it was still 2.6, which I wouldn't have considered touching
even when Edgy was released.  My guess is that a Lilypond fan has
recently joined the Ubuntu development team.

Regards,

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Fwd: Difficult layout questions

[Joseph Haig]

Sorry, I replied to Dominic, not to the list.

On 11/02/2008, Dominic Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >  2. I use the \set stanza = "1. " command within \lyricmode to set the
 >  versnumber and to set the point where the refrain begins ("Refr. ").
 >  When using the long string "Refr. " it sometimes sticks out of the
 >  left boundary.


I don't know if this is the same problem, but I found that sometimes
 the stanza label, "1." for example, was not given enough space and it
 was printed on top of the end of the previous part of the lyrics.
 This problem disappeared when I moved from 2.10 to 2.11.

 Regards,

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Converting from 1.4.12 to 2.10.33

[Joseph Haig]

I downloaded a Lilypond 1.4.12 file from
http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/partituras.html and run it through
convert-ly, which, gave the following output (in addition to the
output file):

convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.10.33
Processing `old/Ascendens_Christus_In_Altum-1-Kyrie.ly'...
Applying conversion: 1.5.33, 1.5.38, 1.5.40, 1.5.49, 1.5.52, 1.5.56,
1.5.58, 1.5.59, 1.5.62, 1.5.67, 1.5.68, 1.5.71, 1.5.72, 1.6.5, 1.7.1,
1.7.2, 1.7.3, 1.7.4, 1.7.5, 1.7.6, 1.7.10, 1.7.11, 1.7.13, 1.7.15,
1.7.16, 1.7.17, 1.7.18, 1.7.19, 1.7.22, 1.7.23, 1.7.24, 1.7.28, 1.9.0,
1.9.1, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 1.9.4, 1.9.5, 1.9.6, 1.9.7, 1.9.8, 2.1.1, 2.1.2,
2.1.3, 2.1.4, 2.1.7, 2.1.10, 2.1.11, 2.1.12, 2.1.13, 2.1.14, 2.1.15,
2.1.16, 2.1.17, 2.1.18, 2.1.19, 2.1.20, 2.1.21, 2.1.22, 2.1.23,
2.1.24, 2.1.25, 2.1.26, 2.1.27, 2.1.28, 2.1.29, 2.1.30, 2.1.31,
2.1.33, 2.1.34, 2.1.36, 2.2.0, 2.3.1, 2.3.2,
Not smart enough to convert textheight
Please refer to the manual for details, and update manually.
Page layout has been changed, using paper size and margins.
textheight is no longer used.
2.3.4, 2.3.6, 2.3.8, 2.3.9, 2.3.10, 2.3.11, 2.3.12, 2.3.16, 2.3.17,
2.3.18, 2.3.22, 2.3.23, 2.3.24, 2.4.0, 2.5.0, 2.5.1, 2.5.2, 2.5.3,
2.5.12, 2.5.13, 2.5.17, 2.5.18, 2.5.21, 2.5.25, 2.6.0, 2.7.0, 2.7.1,
2.7.2, 2.7.4, 2.7.6, 2.7.10, 2.7.11, 2.7.12, 2.7.13, 2.7.14, 2.7.15,
2.7.22, 2.7.24, 2.7.28, 2.7.29, 2.7.30, 2.7.31, 2.7.32, 2.7.32,
2.7.36, 2.7.40, 2.9.4, 2.9.6, 2.9.9, 2.9.11, 2.9.13, 2.9.16, 2.9.19,
2.10.0, 2.10.10

There is a warning, but doesn't seem to be any indication of anything
seriously wrong.  However, running lilypond on the output file I get:

error: can't find music object: OldLyricCombineMusic

What would I need to tweak to get this working properly?  Or is 1.4.12
just so old that it is not worth converting?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Converting from 1.4.12 to 2.10.33

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks Bertalan and Mats.  I have managed to get it working now,
except for some misaligned lyrics but I can sort those out myself.

To be honest, I was quite amazed that convert-ly was able to convert
such an old file with just a single problem.

2008/4/29 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2007-12/msg00156.html for
> a brief
>  instruction on how to do the conversion of \oldaddlyrics by hand.
>
>/Mats
>
>
>
>  Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
>
> > I think it is worth converting. The OldLyricCombineMusic can be easily
> solved if you replaced the \oldaddlyrics or whatever not existing command
> with the normal current way of adding lyrics.
> >
> > Bert
> >
> > Joseph Haig wrote:
> >
> > > I downloaded a Lilypond 1.4.12 file from
> > > http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/partituras.html and run it through
> > > convert-ly, which, gave the following output (in addition to the
> > > output file):
> > >
> > > convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.10.33
> > > Processing `old/Ascendens_Christus_In_Altum-1-Kyrie.ly'...
> > > Applying conversion: 1.5.33, 1.5.38, 1.5.40, 1.5.49, 1.5.52, 1.5.56,
> > > 1.5.58, 1.5.59, 1.5.62, 1.5.67, 1.5.68, 1.5.71, 1.5.72, 1.6.5, 1.7.1,
> > > 1.7.2, 1.7.3, 1.7.4, 1.7.5, 1.7.6, 1.7.10, 1.7.11, 1.7.13, 1.7.15,
> > > 1.7.16, 1.7.17, 1.7.18, 1.7.19, 1.7.22, 1.7.23, 1.7.24, 1.7.28, 1.9.0,
> > > 1.9.1, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 1.9.4, 1.9.5, 1.9.6, 1.9.7, 1.9.8, 2.1.1, 2.1.2,
> > > 2.1.3, 2.1.4, 2.1.7, 2.1.10, 2.1.11, 2.1.12, 2.1.13, 2.1.14, 2.1.15,
> > > 2.1.16, 2.1.17, 2.1.18, 2.1.19, 2.1.20, 2.1.21, 2.1.22, 2.1.23,
> > > 2.1.24, 2.1.25, 2.1.26, 2.1.27, 2.1.28, 2.1.29, 2.1.30, 2.1.31,
> > > 2.1.33, 2.1.34, 2.1.36, 2.2.0, 2.3.1, 2.3.2,
> > > Not smart enough to convert textheight
> > > Please refer to the manual for details, and update manually.
> > > Page layout has been changed, using paper size and margins.
> > > textheight is no longer used.
> > > 2.3.4, 2.3.6, 2.3.8, 2.3.9, 2.3.10, 2.3.11, 2.3.12, 2.3.16, 2.3.17,
> > > 2.3.18, 2.3.22, 2.3.23, 2.3.24, 2.4.0, 2.5.0, 2.5.1, 2.5.2, 2.5.3,
> > > 2.5.12, 2.5.13, 2.5.17, 2.5.18, 2.5.21, 2.5.25, 2.6.0, 2.7.0, 2.7.1,
> > > 2.7.2, 2.7.4, 2.7.6, 2.7.10, 2.7.11, 2.7.12, 2.7.13, 2.7.14, 2.7.15,
> > > 2.7.22, 2.7.24, 2.7.28, 2.7.29, 2.7.30, 2.7.31, 2.7.32, 2.7.32,
> > > 2.7.36, 2.7.40, 2.9.4, 2.9.6, 2.9.9, 2.9.11, 2.9.13, 2.9.16, 2.9.19,
> > > 2.10.0, 2.10.10
> > >
> > > There is a warning, but doesn't seem to be any indication of anything
> > > seriously wrong.  However, running lilypond on the output file I get:
> > >
> > > error: can't find music object: OldLyricCombineMusic
> > >
> > > What would I need to tweak to get this working properly?  Or is 1.4.12
> > > just so old that it is not worth converting?
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Fwd: installation

[Joseph Haig]

(I originally sent this just to Alan.  I am forwarding it here for the list.)

Version 2.2.6 is very old.  You can download the latest stable from
 http://lilypond.org/web/install/.

 You may know this already, but for incorporating music into LaTeX you
 will probably want to use lilypond-book.

 Hope this helps.

 Joe

 2008/5/2 Alan Fabian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Hi,
 >
 >  I just installed lilypond via fink without any errors. Then I tried to
 > generate the example { c'4 e' g' } saved in a text (foo.ly) file on my
 > Desktop.
 >  Then I typed  "lilypond Desktop/foo.ly" in my terminal window and I got the
 > following error message:
 >
 >  lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.6
 >  lilypond: error: `/sw/bin/lilypond-bin --version ' failed (133)
 >  lilypond: error: The error log is as follows:
 >  dyld: /sw/bin/lilypond-bin can't open library:
 > /sw/lib/libkpathsea.3.4.5.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
 >
 >  I am working on my doctoral thesis in Computer Music, I write it in LaTeX
 > and I want to use lilypond for some music-notation examples.  Would be nice
 > if you help me with this error,
 >  from Munich,
 >  Alan
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Re: Lilypond & Ubuntu

[Joseph Haig]

How exactly did you extract Lilypond?

If you have downloaded the shell script
(lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh) and run it as root, it should now be
installed in /usr/local/.  It is possible that /usr/local/bin is not
in your path.  What happens when you try:

$ /usr/local/bin/lilypond

I am using Lilypond on Ubuntu and I have never had problems running it.

2008/5/13 Peter Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am struggling to get Lilypond even running in the latest Ubuntu.  It seems 
> to
>  have downloaded and extracted in a Lilypond folder but I cannot find a way to
>  run it - even in terminal by typing Lilypond.
>
>  Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated.  I have used this 
> some
>  months ago on a colleagues pc and it looked superb, exactly what I need for
>  scoring music written for our church.
>
>  Thanks in anticipation..  Peter Gifford, Radlett, UK
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Re: ubuntu package

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2008/7/26 notesetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Is there an Ubuntu package for LilyPond? Suppose I'm using LilyPond 2.10.33
> and want to upgrade to the latest (development) branch. Is there a "software
> source" I can type in and then have the latest version downloaded and
> installed via synaptic?
>

Yes, there is an Ubuntu package available in synaptic but, if I
remember correctly, it is quite old and the packages you can get from
http://lilypond.org/web/install/ are easy to install anyway.

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Re: How to add double barlines to a gregorian chant?

[Joseph Haig]

Support for Gregorian Chant is not great in Lilypond, unfortunately,
but you can use it for simple things.

For bar lines, you want to use the special commands that are set up by
gregorian-init.ly.  Specifically, the double bar line is \finalis.
See section 7.7.9 (Divisiones) for the whole list.  I think you will
still need to use \bar "" to indicate places where the line can be
split.

Regards,

Joe

2008/7/29 Dominic Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> I´m new to gregorian typesetting but I´ve seen that there´s already
> support for it in LilyPond.
> Can you tell me how I can add a double bar at the end?
>
> And there is a wrong note at the end? How can I delete it?
>
> Is it at all a good idea to start typesetting gregorian chants with
> LilyPond or are there too many diffulcuties by now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dominic
>
>
>
> \version "2.11.44"
> \include "gregorian-init.ly"
>
> \score {
><<
>\new VaticanaVoice = "cantus" {
>\clef "vaticana-do3"
>f f d c \[ f \pes g \] f \breathe
>g g a f f \bar "||"
>}
>\new Lyrics \lyricsto "cantus" {
>Ich fürch -- te kein Un -- _ "heil: *"
>du bist ja bei mir.
>}
>>>
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Re: How to add double barlines to a gregorian chant?

[Joseph Haig]

2008/7/29 Dominic Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Okay, then it breaks already after the fourth note ... this doesn´t help much.
> Now I added some more \noBreak commands after other notes and now it
> fits into one line.
> That´s not what I would call a "clean solution" ... :-/
>

I haven't played with chant in lilypond for a while, but I think I
remember that it still uses the default time signature (4/4) and note
length (crochet or quarter-note) even though these don't mean anything
in this notation.  What you are seeing is the line being broken at the
(unprinted) bar lines, which occur every 4 crochet notes.  (Note that
the podatus on 'un-' of 'unheil' is two notes.)  An even more
unfortunate side effect of this is that if you have long melimata the
spacing gets messed up, because lilypond allocates a certain amount of
space for each neume even though they are clustered together.  You can
see this in your example, where the notes above 'unheil' have too much
space between them.

I found that there was no real 'clean solution'.  I tended to have a
lot of \bar "" commands after various notes more or less around the
place where I expected line breaks to occur.  Unfortunately, I don't
think chant is very high on the list of priorities with the developers
and, to be fair, there probably isn't really a compelling reason why
it should be.  I did have a look at it once but I don't know enough
about scheme, python or chant notation to be able to get very far.

Regards,

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Re: Stem across piano staffs

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks, that is perfect.  I was missing "\override Stem #'cross-staff
= ##t", which has presumably been added for 2.11.

2008/8/15 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Are the intructions in NR 2.2.1 Cross-staff stems, inadequate?
> This doc section was rewritten very recently, so I'd hope that the docs
> are correct on this point.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
>
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:07:45 +0100
> "Joseph Haig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Some time ago I found a way of getting a stem to extend across two
>> piano staffs, shown in the code below.  This works with 2.10 but with
>> 2.11, it seems that the long stem length causes extra space to be
>> added between the staffs, so they never join up.  Does anyone have a
>> fix for this, or could recommend a different way of getting this
>> effect?  The two attachments show show this sample in 2.10.33-1 and
>> 2.11.55-2.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #22
>> noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag
>>
>> \new PianoStaff <<
>>   \new Staff \relative c' {
>> d8
>>   }
>>   \new Staff \relative c {
>> \clef "bass"
>> \stemUp
>> \stemExtend \noFlag 
>>   }
>> >>
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Re: lyrics and repeat

[Joseph Haig]

2008/8/31 Grammostola Rosea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dominic Neumann wrote:
>>
>> To add more lines of lyrics easily add another \addlyrics { ... }
>> after the first.
>> It doesn´t matter if there´s a repeat in the notes - LilyPond typesets
>> the lyrics as you see them on the paper.
>>
>>
>>
>
> But I don't use \addlyrics here, but:
>
> verse = \lyricmode {
>>
>>  % Lyrics follow here.
>>  Wise men say on -- ly fools rush in, But I can't help fall -- ing
>>  in love with you. Like a riv -- er flows sure -- ly to the sea, Dar --
>> ling
>>  so it goes Some -- things__ are meant to be. Take my hand. take my whole
>>  life too. For I can't help fall -- ing in love with you.
>
> }
>

You want to add:

versetwo = \lyricmode {
  % Second line of words here
}

and then later, where you have:

\new Staff { \melody } \addlyrics { \verse }

you want:

\new Staff { \melody }
\addlyrics { \verse }
\addlyrics { \versetwo }

Note that the lyrics are not part of the staff, but are a separate
line in themselves so you can have as many of them as you want.

Hope this helps,

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Re: Absolute newbie: how do I ... ?

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2008/11/12 guysnape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I've just got Lilypond working, I want to use it to print some music reading
> practice sheets for my son who is learning piano. Is it possible to produce
> a page containing the following?
>
> A text instruction (e.g. "Write the note name underneath each note")
>

I would do this with lilypond-book:

  

It is almost certainly possible to do this without lilypond-book but I
have never had reason to do it so I don't know how.

> A staff with notes on it with an underscore character or two exactly under
> each note (I guess treating them as lyrics), leaving sufficient space for
> the letter name to be written.
>

I haven't tried it, but you should be able to do this with lyrics.
The only slight complication is that - and _ are special characters
and I don't know how you would display a dash underneath a note rather
than between syllables.  It might work if you put them in quotes - eg:

\addlyrics { "_" "_" "_" "_" }

> Another text instruction ("Put the correct note above each letter")
>
> A blank staff with letter names evenly spaced underneath (or between the
> treble and bass staves).

I think this will do what you want:

  

The hidden notes will be treated as any other notes, so you can add
the names underneath as lyrics.

Hope this helps,

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Text over fermata

[Joseph Haig]

I want to put a markup over a fermata but when I try this:

  a'2\fermata^\markup { \italic lunga }

I get the text under the fermata.  How can I force it above?

Thanks

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Re: Text over fermata

[Joseph Haig]

2009/2/26 Robin Bannister :
> Joseph Haigwrote:
>>
>> I get the text under the fermata.  How can I force it above?
>
> Use
>  \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100
>
> as mentioned in "Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in NR 1.3.1.
>

Thanks, that is perfect!

Joe


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Re: Text over fermata

[Joseph Haig]

2009/2/26 M Watts :
> Joseph Haig wrote:
>>
>> I want to put a markup over a fermata but when I try this:
>>
>>  a'2\fermata^\markup { \italic lunga }
>>
>> I get the text under the fermata.  How can I force it above?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
> One way is to do it as a markup:
>
> \markup { \center-column { \italic "lunga" \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" }
> }
>

Thanks for the reply but unfortunately, this doesn't seem to align the
fermata properly above the note.  Anyway, the other reply I got does
the trick.


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Re: lilypond via web interface: security considerations

[Joseph Haig]

2009/5/18 Alex :
> I'm wanting to run lilypond behind a web interface as a free tool that
> anyone can use. The proof-of-concept seems to work fine. Now I'm
> thinking of security considerations. In particular, what input to
> lilypond is possible that could have nuisance or destructive effect?
>

Is it possible to get Lilypond to include a text file?  Something like:

  \markup { \include "/etc/passwd" }

This doesn't actually work (it just writes out "/etc/passwd"), but if
you find a way of doing this, this would be a potential security
issue.  Also, consider what might happen if someone uploads a file
called:

  "test.ly; rm /var/www/"

These examples are specific to Linux/UNIX, but there will be
equivalents for any OS.

Regards,

Joe


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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 157, Issue 18

[Joseph Haig]

I just stumbled across this and found a link to my video! Sorry I didn't
spot this earlier.

As has already been pointed out it is in my Github repository here:
https://github.com/jrmhaig/music

As someone noted that there may be copyright issues I have added a
licensing section to make it clear that they are released as 'Creative
Commons'.

I'm responding to a digest email. Will the mailing list system sort it out
correctly?

Regards,

Joe

On 3 December 2015 at 15:58,  wrote:

> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:18:22 + (UTC)
> From: Gregory Citarella 
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: How Beautiful Upon the Mountains by Stainer
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello:  is there anyway I can get a pdf of the choir anthem that I see on
> you tube of How Beautiful upon the mountains by John Stainer.  I see it was
> done by someone using lilypond.org
>
> This is the url I am referring to:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wCy3v3Xyg
>
> I am the Minister of Music at Zion Episcopal church in Wappingers Falls NY
> /
> USA.  I have a score in 4/2 meter.  I see this one is in 4/4 meter.  It
> looks better in 4/4.
>
> I appreciate whatever you can do to help me.  My choir is singing this
> anthem at Christmas.
>
> Peace...
>
> Gregory
>
>
>
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Bug in ties over barlines

[Joseph Haig]

I have (I believe) found a bug in Lilypond, and I am fairly sure what
it is, but I would like to check with people who have better knowledge
of music theory than I before I submit it to the bug list. In the
following code:

  {
\time 4/4
aes'1( a')
aes'~ aes'
aes'( aes')
  }

I believe that the first and third ties are displayed incorrectly.
Specifically, the first tie should have a natural in front of the
second note, and the third tie should not have a flat in front of the
second note.The second and third ties should be identical, except for
the type of tie used, while the first one should be different. Am I
correct?

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: Bug in ties over barlines

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks to everyone who responded and explained that Lilypond's
behaviour is correct, and that it is possible to use
set-accidental-style to get the behaviour I expected. I agree with
Janek that the theoretically correct behaviour can be confusing but I
understand better now the differences between ties and slurs.

On 24 January 2011 08:54, Phil Holmes  wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "Jan Warchoł"
> 
>
>> I don't agree. *Theoretically* accidental is not needed, but if it
>> would be omitted, how can you tell the difference between aes~ | aes
>> and aes( | a) ?
>> In my opinion accidental here is necessary (surely it may be
>> parenthesized). If it's necessary, it should be printed automatically
>> in my opinion.
>
>> cheers,
>> Janek
>
> If you use
>
> #(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
>
> then you get the parenthesised accidental automatically, as requested.
>
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
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Custom paper size

[Joseph Haig]

Is it possible to set a custom paper size by specifying dimensions?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Paper-size
seems to suggest that the only way is to manually edit the paper.scm
file.

What I want to do is have a very wide page so that an entire piece can
fit on a single stave. The reason for this is to produce a video to go
along with the music that shows a single stave scrolling left and this
seems to be the best way to do it. I would be grateful to hear if
anyone has done this sort of thing before or knows of a better way.

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Custom paper size

[Joseph Haig]

Marek, Jan-Peter,

Thanks for the quick responses. I should have enough to work on now.

Regards,

Joe

On 6 February 2012 11:19, Jan-Peter Voigt  wrote:
> Hello Joe,
>
> I sometimes use this:
> --snip--
> #(set! paper-alist (cons '("wide" . (cons (* 15 cm) (* 3 cm))) paper-alist))
> \paper {
>  #(set-paper-size "wide")
> }
>
> \score {
>  \relative c'' {
>    bes4 a c b
>  }
> }
> --snip--
>
> this creates a paper "wide" of width 15cm and height 3cm.
> This format is joined to the global paper-alist and can then get called in a
> paper block.
>
> HTH
> Cheers, Jan-Peter
>
>
> On 06.02.2012 12:03, Joseph Haig wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to set a custom paper size by specifying dimensions?
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Paper-size
>> seems to suggest that the only way is to manually edit the paper.scm
>> file.
>>
>> What I want to do is have a very wide page so that an entire piece can
>> fit on a single stave. The reason for this is to produce a video to go
>> along with the music that shows a single stave scrolling left and this
>> seems to be the best way to do it. I would be grateful to hear if
>> anyone has done this sort of thing before or knows of a better way.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 119, Issue 128

[Joseph Haig]

> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:30:59 -0400
> From: "Keith N. McKenna" 
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Well there be improvements to Gregorian Chant?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Good-day All;
>
> I have recently been experimenting with lilypond because it has some
> support for Gregorian Chant. The first thing that bit was was of course
> the problems with lyric alignment with ligatures. After perusing the
> archives or the list this seems to be an ongoing problem. My question is
> will there be more development in this area, and are there work arounds
> that are somewhat understandable for a non-programmer novice such as
> myself.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
>
I don't want to sound too negative but I tried using Gregorian Chant in
Lilypond a few years ago and found that, other than the most basic chant,
it doesn't work very well at all. At that time there wasn't a great deal of
interest amongst the developers to work on this, which I fully understand
considering how huge Lilypond is and how many higher priorities there are.
I would very much like to hear that considerable work has been done to this
feature since I looked at it but, in the event that this is not the case,
you might be interested instead in looking at Gregorio (
http://home.gna.org/gregorio/), which is designed for only typesetting
Gregorian Chant.
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Re: GUI

[Joseph Haig]

Forgive me for jumping in, as this is a long thread and I have only
been partially reading it.  However, I have a couple of comments which
I hope will be useful.

Firstly, I think the new web site looks great.  I do not think the
current site looks particularly bad (I have seen much worse), but it
is fairly basic and a little dated.  Lilypond is about producing
beautiful music scores and the web site should reflect this.

Regarding how to find the 'Alternate input' link, I did find it fairly
easily following the 'Introduction' page.  I do, however, think that
it would be sensible to have this link also also on the 'Download'
page, perhaps in the warning about Lilypond being text based.  Eg, "To
see how Lilypond can be used in other ways, try the alternate input".

There has been some discussion about whether people understand what is
meant by an editor, environment, etc.  Would it help to hide the fact
that people are actually using Lilypond directly, and instead refer to
"software based on the Lilypond engine"?  I must confess that I have
not tried most of these editors myself so I do not know how much the
actual running of Lilypond is hidden from the user, but if (in the
case of Denemo) someone can just point-and-click with the mouse, press
a button and then get the output does it matter whether or not they
know what is actually editing a text file?  Also, referring to
"software based on the Lilypond engine" you can pass it off as 3rd
party software (and therefore supported by someone else) but give it
the Lilypond seal of approval for compatibility.

I hope this is useful.

Regards,

Joe


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Re: Feature

[Joseph Haig]

On 14 February 2010 13:37, Kieren MacMillan
 wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
>> I was copying some notes with lilypond and wondered myself, if lilypond
>> supports something like shown in the attachment. This is a part of an
>> orchestral score. Is such a thing supported by lilypond?
>
> Look for "ambitus" in the docs or archive.
> 
>

I don't think an ambitus is what he is looking for, but rather a way
to indicate the tuning of the timpani.  This is where I would expect
to find something about it but there doesn't seem to be anything:

  


You could almost certainly do it by writing it as music at the start
of the line and then adding space at the start of every other line,
but it looks like something that should be added to the list of
feature requests.  I would have thought that the code for creating the
ambitus could be modified to display every note in the line instead of
just the top and bottom.

Regards,

Joe


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Re: weblily down?

[Joseph Haig]

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.weblily.net/ says it is down.

(Sorry for the duplicate Stefan - I keep forgetting to reply to the group)

On 17 May 2010 08:39, Stefan Thomas  wrote:
> Dear community,
> is weblily down at the moment?
> I can't reach the page!
>
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Floss weekly podcast

[Joseph Haig]

Have any of the developers considered getting on the Floss Weekly
podcast (http://twit.tv/floss) to promote Lilypond?  Each week they
get people from different open source projects to talk about them.
Just a thought.

Regards,

Joe

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Nested slurs

[Joseph Haig]

Is it possible to have nested slurs of different types?  For example,
on the following:

e8 fis g4

to have "\slurSolid e8( fis) g4" and "\slurDotted e8( fis g4)" at the
same time, with the solid slur inside the dotted one?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Manual engraving video

[Joseph Haig]

On 21/11/06, Cesar Penagos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Lilyponders!
I wan to  advice  you that is an excellent video of the art of manual
engraving in You Toube; you have to take a look of this excellent work.
You can see it, at:
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso



Note the second comment: "It will be a long time before this beautiful
process can be replicated by computers."  Erm ...


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Multiple sections in ChoirStaff

[Joseph Haig]

I am trying to adapt the example in D.4.1 (SATB vocal score) of the
user manual to allow for separate sections using different music and
word.  So, for example, the sections of the music should be deffined
as:

sopMusicPartA = \relative c'' {
  c4 c c8[( b)] c4
}
sopWordsPartA = \lyricmode {
  hi hi hi hi
}
sopMusicPartB = \relative c'' {
  a4 a a8[( f)] a4
}
sopWordsPartB = \lyricmode {
  ho ho ho ho
}

etc.  Then, Part B should follow on from Part A (for example, a verse
and chorus).  I have managed to get the music to be placed correctly,
but I have so far had no success getting the words of Part B appearing
anywhere, let alone with the correct music.  Is there an example
anywhere showing this being done?  Also, can someone please explain
the significance of the "{ s1 }" in the "\new Lyrics" lines?  I cannot
find any reference to this anywhere in the manual.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Multiple sections in ChoirStaff

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks to all who replied with suggestions.  Below is my attempt
(which may have errors in it and certainly doesn't have all the
verses, so be warned if you use it) and as you see I have got the
refrain aligned with the first verse where ideally it would be
centred.

As an aside, I have used "\override Score . LyricText #'font-size =
#'-2" in each block of text to reduce the size of the font, but I'm
sure that it must be possible to do this globally.

Thanks,

Joe



\header {
 title = "The First Nowell"
 composer = "Traditional"
}

\version "2.10.0"

#(set-global-staff-size 18)

global = {
 \key d \major
 \time 3/4
}

sopVerseMusic = \relative c' {
 \partial 4*1 fis8( e) d4.( e8) fis8([ g)] a2
 b8( cis) \slurDashed d4( cis) b a2
 b8( cis) d4( cis) b a( b) cis d( a) g fis2
 \slurSolid fis8( e) d4.( e8) \slurDashed fis8([ g)] a2
 \slurSolid b8( cis) \slurDashed d4( cis) b a2
 b8( cis) d4 cis b a( b) cis d( a) g fis2
 \slurSolid
 \bar "||"
}

sopRefrainMusic = \relative c' {
 fis8( e) d4.( e8) fis([ g)] a2
 d8( cis) b2 b4 a2.
 d4 cis b a( b) cis d( a) g fis2
 \bar "|."
}

altVerseMusic = \relative c' {
 \partial 4*1 a4 d2 d4 e2
 fis8( g) \slurDashed a4( a) g fis2
 fis8( e) d4( fis) g cis,( d) g fis( d) cis d2
 cis4 d2 d8( d) e2 fis4 fis( a) gis e2
 g!8( g) a4 g fis e( e) fis d4( d) e4 a,2
 \slurSolid
}

altRefrainMusic = \relative c' {
 fis8( e) d4.( e8) fis([ g)] a2
 d,4 g2 g4 a2.
 d,4 fis g d2 e4 fis2 e4 a,2
}

tenVerseMusic = \relative c {
 \partial 4*1 d8( e) fis4.( g8) a([ b]) cis2
 d8( e) \slurDashed fis4( fis) d d2
 d8( e) fis4( cis) d e( d) g, a( a) a a2
 \slurSolid a8( g) fis4.( e8) \slurDashed d8[( d]) a'2
 fis4 b( a) b cis2
 d8( e) d4 g, b e( d) cis b( a) cis d2
 \slurSolid
}

tenRefrainMusic = \relative c {
 fis8( e) d4.( e8) fis([ g)] a2
 a4 d2 d8( e) fis2.
 fis4 cis d a2 g4 fis( a) cis d2
}

basVerseMusic = \relative c {
 \partial 4*1 d4 d2 d4 a'2
 a8( a) \slurDashed d4( fis,) g d2
 d8( cis) b4( a) g g'( fis) e d( fis) a d,2
 a4 d2 d8( d) cis2
 \slurSolid d8( cis) \slurDashed b4( cis) e a2
 g8( g) fis4 e d cis( b) a g'( fis) e d2
 \slurSolid
}

basRefrainMusic = \relative c {
 fis8( e) d4.( e8) fis([ g)] a2
 fis4 g4.( a8) b[( cis]) d2.
 b4 a g fis2 e4 d2 a4 d2
}

refrain = \lyricmode {
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #'-2
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-shape = #'italic
 No -- well, No -- well, No -- well, No -- well,
 Born is the King of Is -- ra -- el!
}

verseone = \lyricmode {
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #'-2
 \set stanza = "1. "
 The first No -- well
 the
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 an -- gel did say
 Was to cer -- tain poor shep -- hers in fields as they lay;
 \unset ignoreMelismata
 In fields where they lay,
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 keep -- ing their sheep,
 In a
 \unset ignoreMelismata
 cold win -- ter's night that was so deep:
}

versetwo = \lyricmode {
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #'-2
 \set stanza = "2. "
 They look -- ed up and saw a star,
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 Shin -- ing
 \unset ignoreMelismata
 in the east, be -- yond them far;
 And to the earth it gave great light,
 And so it
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 con -- tin -- ued both
 \unset ignoreMelismata
 day and night:
}
versethree = \lyricmode {
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #'-2
 \set stanza = "3. "
 And by the light of that same star,
 Three wise men came from coun -- try far;
 To seek
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 for a
 \unset ignoreMelismata
 king was their in -- tent,
 \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 And to fol -- low the star where -- so -- ev -- er it went:
 \unset ignoreMelismata
}

versefour = \lyricmode {
 \override Score . LyricText #'font-size = #'-2
 \set stanza = "4. "
 This star drew night to the north -- west;
 O'er Beth -- le -- hem it took its rest.
 And there it did both stop and stay
 Right ov -- er the place where Je -- sus lay:
}

\score {
 \new ChoirStaff
   <<
 \new Staff = women
 <<
   \new Voice = "sopVerse" { \voiceOne \global \sopVerseMusic
\sopRefrainMusic }
   \new Voice = "altVerse" { \voiceTwo \global \altVerseMusic
\altRefrainMusic }
 >>
 \new Lyrics = "verseone" \lyricsto sopVerse { \verseone \refrain }
 \new Lyrics = "versetwo" \lyricsto sopVerse { \versetwo }
 \new Lyrics = "versethree" \lyricsto sopVerse { \versethree }
 \new Lyrics = "versefour" \lyricsto sopVerse { \versefour }
 \new Staff = men << \clef "bass"
   \new Voice = "tenors" { \voiceOne \global \tenVerseMusic
\tenRefrainMusic }
   \new Voice = "basses" { \voiceTwo \global \basVerseMusic
\basRefrainMusic }
 >>

   >>
 \layout {
   \context {
 \Staff
 \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent =#'(-3 . 3)
   }
 }
}


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Re: Extracting parts from a .ly file?

[Joseph Haig]

On 04/12/06, Eduardo Vieira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello users, does anybody have a Python or Perl script to extract parts from a
.ly file and save them into a different file?



It is not pretty and it doesn't to a great deal of syntax checking but
below is a perl script I've just thrown together which extract the
parts as you require.  It should pick out things like 'soprano' while
ignoring things like '\soprano'.  You should save it in a file called
ly-extract and call it with:

$ ly-extract infile.ly outfile.ly label

where label is soprano, alto, etc.

I don't know how perl works with Windows, but I would guess that you
would need to change the first line in some way.

Regards,

Joe


#!/usr/bin/perl

# ly-extract
#
# Extract a named section from a lilypond file

use strict;

my($fin,$fout,$label)[EMAIL PROTECTED];
if (!$label) {
 print "Please supply input file, output file and label\n";
 exit 0;
}

open(FIN,'<',$fin) or die "Cannot find input file";
open(FOUT,'>',$fout) or die "Cannot open output file";

my($line);
my($notfound)=1;

# Find start of the required block
while($notfound and chomp($line=)) {
 # This will match:
 #   $label
 #   $label =
 #   $label = {
 #   $label = { 
 # but it will ignore completely any mistakes, such as
 #   $label {
 #   $label = 
 if ($line =~ /((?>)(.*)/) {
   print FOUT $1;
   if ($2 eq '{' or $2 eq '<<') {
 $notfound=0;
 $parcount++;
 print FOUT $2;
   } elsif ($2 eq '}' or $2 eq '>>') {
 $parcount--;
 print FOUT $2;
 if ($parcount < 0) {
   die "Something has gone horribly wrong!";
 }
   }
   $line=$3;
 } else {
   chomp($line);
   print FOUT $line;
   $line='';
 }
 if (!$line) {
   print FOUT "\n";
   $line=;
 }
}

close FIN;
close FOUT;


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Creating a booklet with psbook

[Joseph Haig]

I am having a problem with the output of lilypond which, according to
some posts I've found in the mailing lists, appears to be a problem
with ghostscript and/or it's fonts.  One such thread, from the
developer mailing list, starts:

 

Does anyone know of a workaround for this or is it possible, by using
a particular version of ghostscript, to get around this?  Ideally,
what I would like to do is to take the output of lilypond and create
an a5 booklet.  I have tried using pdf2ps to get back to a ps file,
but for some reason the margins get messed up.

Thanks,

Joe


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Fwd: Lyrics and the dipthong?

[Joseph Haig]

Just noticed that I didn't reply to the group, so here it is again:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28-Feb-2007 15:14
Subject: Re: Lyrics and the dipthong?
To: Jared <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I think this is what you want:

Io che d'al -- ti so -- spir va -- "ga, e" di pian -- ti,}

Regards,

Joe

On 28/02/07, Jared <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm trying to enter some Italian text. "va-ga, e" I would like the "ga, e" to be
associated with the same dotted quarter note and have a tie marking on the
lyrics. Is this possible yet?

\version "2.6.0"
 melody = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4

a4. a8 a4 a8 a | a4 c bes4. a8 | c2 c2 |}

text = \lyricmode {
Io che d'al -- ti so -- spir va -- ((ga, e)) di pian -- ti,}
  ?


Please, help.

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Natural not printed after accidental in the same bar

[Joseph Haig]

Is this a bug?  In the following code, the final note is not printed
with a natural:

\version "2.10"

\header{
 title = "Bug test"
}

\relative c' {
 cis c cis c'
}

Is this usual practice, because it is a different octave?  I have
tried this with the latest stable version, 2.10.20-1.

Regards,

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Re: Aligning Square (Vaticana) notes with modern notation in separate staves

[Joseph Haig]

Not sure if this solves your problem (I don't really have time at the
moment to read it in detail) but you can add note lengths to Vaticana
notes in the same way as you do with modern notation.  They do not
change the appearance of the notes but they alter how they are aligned
with other staves.

Regards,

Joe

On 20/03/07, anders stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everybody!

I have just more or less finished a critical edition/ transcription of
one of the Cantigas de Santa Maria.
That meant putting two different Vaticana staffs and one normal staff in
the same score.
Eg. entering The notes from the two main sources in square notation and
a interpretation of  the semi rytmicnotation in the sources in modern
notation.
The problem so fare is: as the square notes takes about the same space
as  one quarter in modern notation disregarding if the sign is punctum
inclinatum, punctum or virga. (As far as I understand this is true also
in Ligatures.)
Now if  the virga is interpreted as a  long note and punktum as short
eg. halfnote and quarter note the  notes in the square note staffs will
not align with  the modern notation after a halfnote is entered in the
modern staff. Temporaly I solwed this by adding s4 after apropriate
notes in the Vaticana staff's. See  the following snipp:

escorial =  \new VaticanaVoice = "Escorial"
   {
   \set Staff.instrumentName="Esc-Codex"
   \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "Esc "
   \set VaticanaStaff.middleCPosition = #2
   \set VaticanaStaff.clefPosition = #2
   \[g\]\[ a\melisma \flexa b \melismaEnd \] \[ c' \]
   \[ \virga a\] s4 \[ b \]
   \[ \virga c' \] s4 \[ \virga d' \] s4 \divisioMaior
   s4 d' \[ d' \melisma \flexa  c'\melismaEnd \] \[ a \] \[
b\melisma \auctum \ascendens b\melismaEnd \]
   a \[ \virga g \] \[ a\melisma \flexa \deminutum g\melismaEnd
\] \[ \virga f\] s4
\divisioMaior


 }
escorialVers = \lyricmode
{
Nas m^ -- tes sen -- pre -- te^ -- er.
   de -- ve -- mo -- las sas fei^ -- "[tu]" -- ras

}

toledo =
 \new VaticanaVoice = "Toledo" {
\set Staff.instrumentName="To- codex"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "To "
\set VaticanaStaff.middleCPosition = #2
   \set VaticanaStaff.clefPosition = #2
 \[ g \] \[ a\melisma \flexa b \melismaEnd \] \[ \inclinatum c'\]
 \[ a \] s4 \[ \inclinatum b \] \[ c' \] s4 \[d' \] s4
 s4 \[ d' \] \[ d'\melisma \flexa c'\melismaEnd \] \[ a \] \[ b \]
s4 \[ \inclinatum a \]
 \[ g \] \[ a \melisma \flexa g\melismaEnd \] \[ f \] s4

 }
toledoVers = \lyricmode
{
Nas me^ -- tes sen -- pre te^ -- er
   de -- ve -- mo las sas fei -- tu -- ras

}

transcriptI =
\relative c' {
   \partial 4*1
   g'4
   a( b) c a2 b4
   c2 d r4 d4
   d4( c) a b2 a4
   g4. a8( g4) f2
}


transcriptVers =
\lyricmode {
   Nas men -- tes sen -- pre te -- ner
   de ve -- mo -- las sas fei -- tu -- ras.

   }

transcript  =  \new Staff {
<<
\new Voice = "Transcript" {
   \set Staff.instrumentName="Transcript"
   \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "Tr. "
   \clef "treble"
   \key c \major
   \time 6/4
   \transcriptI
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Transcript" {
   \transcriptVers
}
   >>
   }

\score {
 <<
   <<
   \new VaticanaStaff \with {\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #5 }
   \escorial

 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Escorial" {
   \escorialVers
 }
   >>
   <<
   \new VaticanaStaff \with {\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #5 }
   \toledo

 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Toledo" {
 \toledoVers

 }
   >>
   <<
   \transcript

   >>
 >>

 \layout {
 indent = 20.0
 }
 }
I only wonder: Is there a more elegant solution?  Its not only a
eastetical quiz: If I also print the Vaticana "parts" separatly the
extra spaces are just that: extra spaces botching the normal spacing of
the notes and giving things a rather weirdo look when not in the mixed
scorecontext.   Its also a bother to have to edit in/ out the extra
spaces and somewath time consuming as I had to process the score at
least a few extra times (at least this first time)  to get alignement
and overall look right.

Yours
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Staff colour in ancient notation

[Joseph Haig]

When using some ancient notations the staves are coloured red, as in
section 7.7 of the user guide.  Why is this and is it possible to set
it to black?

Thanks,

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Re: Staff colour in ancient notation

[Joseph Haig]

Interesting.  I had not seen this before, but a quick Google search
suggests that it is not unknown for chant to be printed in black and
red.  Just for reference, it seems that, based on the documentation,
this was changed in Lilypond between 2.4 and 2.6.

Thanks,

Joe

On 27/03/07, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't really know anything about gregorian chant notation, but if you
refer to
section 7.7.11 Gregorian chant contexts, it mentions "Editio Vaticana"
and I guess that the inspiration to use colored staves comes either from
that edition
or from original manuscripts.

If you want them in black, just add
\layout {
\context {
\VaticanaStaff
 \revert StaffSymbol #'color
 \revert LedgerLineSpanner #'color
}
}
somewhere below the line
\include "gregorian-init.ly"
in your .ly file.

   /Mats

Joseph Haig wrote:
> When using some ancient notations the staves are coloured red, as in
> section 7.7 of the user guide.  Why is this and is it possible to set
> it to black?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
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Line breaks in any place

[Joseph Haig]

Is it possible to allow line breaks at any point, not just at bar
lines?  I know I can add \bar "" but I would like it to be done
automatically if possible.

Thank,

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Re: Notes are going octaves down

[Joseph Haig]

On 03/04/07, Jesús Guillermo Andrade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello all! This is my first post and I really can't understand what is
it I am doing wrong. This file shows that I what to repeat a cord and a
separate note in the same staff several times. However, the notes seem
to be interpreted as relative in the sense that they are always going
one octave lower each duration.
Can you help me to fix it?... I haven't found a clear answer on the manual.
Thanks

THIS IS THE FILE
\version "2.11.15"
\include "espanol.ly"
fragA = <<
{   } \\
{la,,}
>>


As you are using relative pitch for the notes, each note is put in the
octave closest to the previous one.  This is done regardless of where
the previous note occured, so it doesn't matter that it might be in a
different chord.  In your example, the 'si' in the second chord is put
close to the 'mi' in the previous chord, which happens to be an octave
below the 'si' in the first chord.  To solve this, you need to
explicitly put it back up an octave:

fragA = <<
  {   } \\
  {la',,}
  >>

Note the inverted commas after the first note in each chord.

Hope this helps,

Joe.


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Re: Line breaks in any place

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks for the suggestions.  Unfortunately, it appears to mess up the
positions of the bar lines, that I am putting in manually.  I haven't
tried it without

\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t

which was missing in Mats' suggestion, so maybe that will help.

A couple of other questions.  I am using this to write music that is a
combination of chant and modern notation.  If I use

\include "gregorian-init.ly"

the spacing for the modern notation gets messed up.  However, I have
got round this by taking a copy of this init file and commenting out
the line

\override SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t

How should this be turned on and off manually within the score?

Finally (for now), in the 'Bugs' section of section 7.7.10, it says:

"Accidentals must not be printed within a ligature, but instead need
to be collected and printed in front of it."

This bug causes the accidental to be printed on top of a note, so it
cannot be seen.  Is there a workaround for this?  Is this fixed in
2.11?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Line breaks in any place

[Joseph Haig]

On 04/04/07, Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Finally (for now), in the 'Bugs' section of section 7.7.10, it says:

"Accidentals must not be printed within a ligature, but instead need
to be collected and printed in front of it."

This bug causes the accidental to be printed on top of a note, so it
cannot be seen.  Is there a workaround for this?  Is this fixed in
2.11?



I think that I have almost, but not quite, got a workaround for this.
I am helped by the fact that the only accidentals that ever occur in
this type of music are b flats and b naturals, and I am choosing to
ignore for the moment that there may be issues with different octaves.
The code I have so far is:

=Begin==
\version "2.10"

\include "gregorian-init.ly"

flt = #(define-music-function (parser location ligature) (ly:music?)
#{
 <<
   $ligature
   \once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t bes!
 >>
#})

ntrl = #(define-music-function (parser location ligature) (ly:music?)
#{
 <<
   $ligature
   \once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t b!
 >>
#})

\score {
 <<
   \context VaticanaVoice = chanta \relative c' {
 \flt {
   \[ \virga c \melisma \inclinatum bes \inclinatum a \melismaEnd \]
 }
 \ntrl {
   \[ \virga c \melisma \inclinatum b \inclinatum a \melismaEnd \]
 }
 \finalis
   }
   \context Lyrics = wordsa \lyricsto chanta {
 One Two
   }
 >>
}
==End===

The \flt and \ntrl functions print a flat and natural in front of an
invisible note which is in the same space as the notes that are to be
printed.  However, the first of these appears to be invisible as well.
I have tried using \\ like in the 3rd example in section 5.3 of the
manual, but this seems to revert the music to modern notation.  Can
anyone please suggest what I am missing?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Stanza numbering looks ugly

[Joseph Haig]

I too would like to know how to fix this.

Thanks,

Joe

On 22/04/07, Dominic Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I´m trying to typeset songs with different verses. When the refrain
comes before the verses, the stanza numbers don´t get enough place.
They are printed right onto the last syllables of the refrain. Where
can I find some help in the manual? I couldn´t find the right place -
or maybe you can help?

Example code:


%%% BEGIN %%%
\version "2.10.20"

refrain = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = "Refr. "
this is a test, yes "it´s" a test
}
verseOne = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = "1. "
verse num -- ber one will soon be gone
}
verseTwo = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = "2. "
verse num -- ber two da dee da doo
}

refrSkip = { \repeat unfold 8 { \skip 4 } }
\score {
{
<<
\relative c'' {

g4 g g g | a a a a |

b b b b | d c d c

\bar "|."
}
\addlyrics { \refrain \verseOne }
\addlyrics { \refrSkip \verseTwo }
>>
}
}
%%% END %%%

As an attachment you can find the output.

Dominic

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Re: more lines of text

[Joseph Haig]

On 09/05/07, holger lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to generate more than one line of songtext below the notes? I
have a song, in which parts of the melody are repeated and I want to print two
lines of text below one line of notes...
Reagrds,



I think that this could be what you are looking for:

 


Regards,

Joe


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Misplaced lyrics

[Joseph Haig]

I am using automatic note splitting (section 6.2.7 of the guide) and I
have encountered a problem with lyrics.  I have attached a sample
(first few bars of the top parts of a Palestrina Mass) with the words
"Ky -- rie e -- lei -- son" but the 'e' of 'eleison' appear on the
first notes of bars 2 and 3 in the soprano and alto parts
respectively, while they should be on the 3rd beats.  In both these
cases, the note at the start of the bar is split over the barline by
lilypond.  I have tried this in the latest stable version, 2.10.25.
Can anyone suggest a way to fix this?

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Misplaced lyrics

[Joseph Haig]

Should I send this to the bug list?

On 13/06/07, Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am using automatic note splitting (section 6.2.7 of the guide) and I
have encountered a problem with lyrics.  I have attached a sample
(first few bars of the top parts of a Palestrina Mass) with the words
"Ky -- rie e -- lei -- son" but the 'e' of 'eleison' appear on the
first notes of bars 2 and 3 in the soprano and alto parts
respectively, while they should be on the 3rd beats.  In both these
cases, the note at the start of the bar is split over the barline by
lilypond.  I have tried this in the latest stable version, 2.10.25.
Can anyone suggest a way to fix this?

Thanks,

Joe





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Re: [Fwd: Misplaced lyrics]

[Joseph Haig]

Mats, Graham,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  My first attempt at
creating a minimal example didn't work because it turns out that the
bug is a little more complicated than I first thought.  Having said
that, I think that the extra information I found should help pinpoint
the bug easier.

Regards,

Joe

On 17/06/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Joe,

Please create a minimal example of this bug; there are some tips here:
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/bugs

Cheers,
- Graham


Joe wrote:
> I am using automatic note splitting (section 6.2.7 of the guide) and I
> have encountered a problem with lyrics.  I have attached a sample
> (first few bars of the top parts of a Palestrina Mass) with the words
> "Ky -- rie e -- lei -- son" but the 'e' of 'eleison' appear on the
> first notes of bars 2 and 3 in the soprano and alto parts
> respectively, while they should be on the 3rd beats.  In both these
> cases, the note at the start of the bar is split over the barline by
> lilypond.  I have tried this in the latest stable version, 2.10.25.
> Can anyone suggest a way to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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[no subject]

[Joseph Haig]

I am trying to get an "ossia" section like the example in section
6.4.8 of the user guide, but for a voice within a ChoirStaff.
Attached is my attempt at modifying the example but a clef and time
signature appear at the start of the line (also, a key signature would
appear if there were one).  Is there a way to get round this?  I want
to use this in a score with several lines it should appear next to a
specific line rather than in a separate staff.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re:

[Joseph Haig]

On 08/07/07, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just replace the two occurrences of "\new Voice" with "\new Staff"
in your example.



Thanks, that has (almost) worked.  I was using Voice because I was
adding lyrics with \lyricsto, but it seems that in this case
\addlyrics works just as well.

However, this does not completely solve my problem.  In my score the
extra line appears a few pages in but there is space in the first line
that I cannot get rid of.  Using \RemoveEmptyStaffContext removes the
space from most of the lines but I cannot remove it from the first.
Attached is an extended version of the example I sent earlier in which
I hope this is made clear.  I have increased the font size so that it
runs to 3 lines without having to be too long.

Regards,

Joe


Quoting Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I am trying to get an "ossia" section like the example in section
> 6.4.8 of the user guide, but for a voice within a ChoirStaff.
> Attached is my attempt at modifying the example but a clef and time
> signature appear at the start of the line (also, a key signature would
> appear if there were one).  Is there a way to get round this?  I want
> to use this in a score with several lines it should appear next to a
> specific line rather than in a separate staff.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>






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episema on one note

[Joseph Haig]

In Gregorian chant is it possible to put an episema on a single note?
Section 7.7.7 in the manual shows how to do it for a melisma but not a
single note.  I found someone asking the same question in the mailing
list about a year ago but there was no answer.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: LilyPond Grand Documentation Project (GDP)

[Joseph Haig]

I should be able to help with some of the trivial to easy sections,
and possibly some medium.

Thanks for your work on the documentation.  It is one of the best of
any project I have seen.

Regards,

Joe


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Verse and refrain spacing

[Joseph Haig]

I have recently started trying out Lilypond, now that I have got round
to getting an up to date version (2.6.3).  For my first attempt I have
tried a Christmas carol and I have managed to work out all of the
problems except one.  I have entered the refrain and three verses
following the trick at the end of section 7.3.7 (Vocal Music: More
stanzas) of the documentation.  My problem is that there is too much
space between the lines of the first staff, which only contain the
refrain, because 3 lines worth of space is being allocated.  Is it
possible to remove this space when it is not required?  My code is
below.

Thanks

Joe

-

\version "2.6.3"

#(set-default-paper-size "a4")

\header {
  title = "Coventry Carol"
  composer = "Traditional (1591)"
}

global = {
  \key d \minor
}

refrain = \lyricmode {
  Lul -- ly, lul -- la,
  thou lit -- tle ti -- ny child,
  By by, lul -- ly lul -- lay,
  thou lit -- tle ti -- ny child,
  By by, lul -- ly lul -- lay.
}

verseone = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "1. "
  O sis -- ters too,
  How may we do
  For to pre -- serve this day
  This poor young -- ling,
  For \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
  whom we
  \unset ignoreMelisma
do sing,
  By by, lul -- ly lul -- lay?
}

versetwo = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "2. "
  He -- rod, the king,
  In his rag -- ing,
  Char -- ged he hath this day
  His men of might,
  In his own sight,
  All young chil -- dren to slay.
}

versethree = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = "3. "
  That woe is me,
  Poor child for thee!
  And e -- ver morn and day,
  For thy part -- ing
  \set ignoreMelismata = ##t
  Nei -- ther
  \unset ignoreMelismata
say nor sing
  By by, lul -- ly lul -- lay!
}
sopMusic = \relative c' {
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4 2)
  g'1 g2 fis
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
  g1 bes2
  a2. a4 g4 g
  fis1.
  g2 a bes
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 2)
  c a
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
  g1 d'2
  c2. c4 bes bes
  a1.
  g2 fis g
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 2)
  c a
  \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
  b1.\fermata \bar "||"
  \context Voice = sopverse {
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4 2)
g1 g2 fis
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
g1 bes2
a1 g2
fis1.
g2 a bes
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 2)
c a
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
g1 d'2
c1 bes2
a1 \slurDotted bes4( bes)
\slurDotted a2.( a4) g2
f1.
g2 fis g
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2 2)
c a
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 2)
b1.\fermata \bar "|."
  }
}

tenorMusic = \relative c' {
  d1 d2 d b1 d2 f2. f4 bes, c d1.
  d2 f d ees d4( c) b1
  f'2 f2. f4 d d d1.
  d2 d bes ees d d1.\fermata
  \context Voice = tenverse {
d1 d2 d d1
d2 f1 bes,4( c) d1.
d2 f d ees d4( c) b1
f'2 f1 d2 d1
\slurDotted d4( d) f1 \slurDotted bes,4( c) d1.
bes2 d bes ees d d1.\fermata
  }
}

bassMusic = \relative c' {
  g1 g2 d g,1 g'2 f2. f4 g g d1.
  g2 f g c, d g,1
  bes2 f'2. f4 g g d1.
  g2 d g c, d g1.\fermata
  \context Voice = basverse {
g1 g2 d g,1
g'2 f1 ees2 d1.
g2 f g c, d g,1
bes2 f'1 g2 d1
\slurDotted g4( g) \slurDotted f2.( f4) ees2 d1.
g2 d g c, d g,1.\fermata
  }
}

\score {
  \context ChoirStaff <<
\context Staff = sops
  \context Voice = sopranos { \voiceOne << \global \sopMusic >> }
\context Lyrics = sopverseone { s1 }
\context Lyrics = sopversetwo { s1 }
\context Lyrics = sopversethree { s1 }
\context Staff = tens {
  \clef "treble_8"
  \context Voice = tenors { \voiceOne << \global \tenorMusic >> }
}
\context Lyrics = tenverseone { s1 }
\context Lyrics = tenversetwo { s1 }
\context Lyrics = tenversethree { s1 }
\context Staff = bass {
  \clef bass
  \context Voice = basses { \voiceOne << \global \bassMusic >> }
}
\context Lyrics = basverseone { s1 }
\context Lyrics = basversetwo { s1 }
\context Lyrics = basversethree { s1 }

\context Lyrics = sopverseone \lyricsto sopranos \refrain
\context Lyrics = sopverseone \lyricsto sopverse \verseone
\context Lyrics = sopversetwo \lyricsto sopverse \versetwo
\context Lyrics = sopversethree \lyricsto sopverse \versethree
\context Lyrics = tenverseone \lyricsto tenors \refrain
\context Lyrics = tenverseone \lyricsto tenverse \verseone
\context Lyrics = tenversetwo \lyricsto tenverse \versetwo
\context Lyrics = tenversethree \lyricsto tenverse \versethree
\context Lyrics = basverseone \lyricsto basses \refrain
\context Lyrics = basverseone \lyricsto basverse \verseone
\context Lyrics = basversetwo \lyricsto basverse \versetwo
\context Lyrics = basversethree \lyricsto basverse \versethree
  >>

  \layout {
\context {
  % a little smaller so lyrics
  % can be closer to the s

Re: Verse and refrain spacing

[Joseph Haig]

--- "uunail (sent by Nabble.com)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Joe
> 
> I had a similar problem. Try 
> 
>   \override Score.RemoveEmptyVerticalGroup #'remove-first = ##t
>  
> in the Staff context.
> 

Thanks, that's perfect!  I was expecting to have to completely
restructure the code.  Now after changing the global size it fits
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Re: Three Questions

[Joseph Haig]

--- Nahum Wengrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1) Can I hide, from the pdf output, the time signature at the
> beginning of a
> score?
> (I've done the 2nd line of notes as a separate score, because it has
> an
> additional Voice & Lyrics staff not existing in the the 1st line.)
> Alternatively, can I have the 1st line of notes in a score having
> only Piano
> staves, and the following lines with an additional Voice & Lyrics
> staff, in
> the same score?
> 

I think the second suggestion is probably better if you can get it
working, but you can remove the time signature with:

\layout{
  \context{
\remove Time_signature_engraver
  }
}

To see this working, have a look at some examples in the documentation
(,
for example) and click on the image of any music with no time
signature.

Hope this helps,

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Aligning ancient and modern music

[Joseph Haig]

I am trying to typeset a piece in both ancient music (gregorian chant)
and modern notation.  Is it possible to align notes in the two
notations?  I realise that it may need to be done explicitly for every
note.

Thanks,

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Re: Aligning ancient and modern music

[Joseph Haig]

--- Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to typeset a piece in both ancient music (gregorian
> chant)
> and modern notation.  Is it possible to align notes in the two
> notations?  I realise that it may need to be done explicitly for
> every
> note.

Further to this, I have included below a copy of the code I have so far
(now I have finished entering it).  As you will be able to see, the
lyrics can be linked to either the modern or ancient music but not both
at the same time.  Is it possible to link music to lyrics with
something like \musicto instead of linking lyrics to music with
\lyricsto?  This may be a solution.

Thanks,

Joe

-

\version "2.6.3"

#(set-default-paper-size "a4")
#(set-global-staff-size 18)

global = {
  \key c \major
}

\include "gregorian-init.ly"
 
modernMusic = \relative c' {
  \autoBeamOff
  \set Score.timing = ##f
  e8 e f e( d) g g a( c) c4 \divisioMinima\bar ""
  c8( d) c c b a c b( a g4) \divisioMaxima\bar ""
  g8 a c b a g a g4 \divisioMinima\bar ""
  a8 b g g e a a4( d,) \divisioMaxima\bar ""
  e8 g g e g a a g4 \divisioMinima\bar ""
  a8 b g a( g) f( e) d e4 \finalis\bar ""
  \context Voice = modernamen {
e8( f e)
d4( e)
\finalis
  }
}

ancientMusic = \relative c {
  \clef "vaticana-do3"
  e e f \[ e\melisma \flexa d\melismaEnd \] g g
\[ a\melisma \pes c\melismaEnd \] c
\divisioMinima\bar ""
  \[ c\melisma \pes d\melismaEnd \] c c b a c
\[ \virga b\melisma \inclinatum a \inclinatum g\melismaEnd \]
\divisioMaxima\bar ""
  g a c b a g a g
\divisioMinima\bar ""
  a b g g e a \[ a\melisma \flexa d,\melismaEnd \]
\divisioMaxima\bar ""
  e g g e g a a g
\divisioMinima\bar ""
  a b g
\[ a\melisma \flexa g\melismaEnd \]
\[ f\melisma \flexa e\melismaEnd \]
d e
\finalis\bar ""
  \context VaticanaVoice = ancientamen {
\[ e\melisma \pes f \flexa e\melismaEnd \]
\[ d\melisma \pes e\melismaEnd \]
\finalis
  }
}

verseone = \lyricmode {
  Tan -- tum er -- go sac -- ra -- men -- tum
  Ve -- ne -- re -- mur cer -- nu -- i,
  Et an -- ti -- quum do -- cu -- men -- tum
  No -- vo ce -- dat ri -- tu -- i;
  Prae -- stet fi -- des sup -- ple -- men -- tum
  Sen -- su -- um de -- fec -- tu -- i.
}

versetwo = \lyricmode {
  Ge -- ni -- to -- ri Ge -- ni -- to -- que
  Laus et iu -- bi -- la -- ti -- o,
  Sa -- lu, ho -- nor,  vir -- tus quo -- que
  Sit et be -- ne -- dic -- ti -- o;
  Pro -- ce -- den -- ti ab u -- tro -- que
  Com -- par sit lau -- da -- ti -- o.
}

wordamen = \lyricmode { A -- men }

\layout {
  \context {
% a little smaller so lyrics
% can be closer to the staff
\Staff
  minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-3 . 3)
\remove Time_signature_engraver
  }
}

\score {
  <<
\context VaticanaVoice = ancient { << \global \ancientMusic >> }
\context Lyrics = verseone { s1 }
\context Lyrics = versetwo { s1 }
\context Voice = modern { << \global \modernMusic >> }

\context Lyrics = verseone \lyricsto ancient \verseone
\context Lyrics = versetwo \lyricsto ancient \versetwo
\context Lyrics = versetwo \lyricsto ancientamen \wordamen
  >>
}

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> 
> Joe
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Re: Aligning ancient and modern music

[Joseph Haig]

I found that notes in context VoiceVaticana could have note lengths
specified in the same way as normal.  Although lengths specified in
this was is meaningless in Gregorian chant, it allows the notes to be
aligned correctly.






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Problem with \textwidth and lilypond-book

[Joseph Haig]

I am trying to change them margins in a document that I run through
lilypond-book.  The code below is an example of what I am trying, but
the second line of the music is put, for some reason, to the right of
the first line and not below.  If I remove
'\setlength{\textwidth}{160mm}' then it appears correctly (except that
the margins are not how I want them).  Can anyone suggest what might be
the problem?  I am using version 2.6.3.

Thanks,

Joe

-- Code ---

\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\usepackage{graphics}

\setlength{\voffset}{-2cm}
\setlength{\hoffset}{0mm}
\addtolength{\hoffset}{-1in}
\setlength{\evensidemargin}{0mm}
\setlength{\textwidth}{160mm}

\begin{document}

\begin[noquote,linewidth]{lilypond}

\relative c' {
c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
}

\end{lilypond}

\end{document}




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Re: My tips page

[Joseph Haig]

--- Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 16-Mar-06, at 7:57 AM, Geoff Horton wrote:
> 
> > I've been typesetting a number of hymns, and in the process I've
> come
> > across (and occasionally at least somewhat invented) some
> techniques
> > that are helpful in getting the results to look like I want. Some
> of
> > these might be genuine FAQs, but since I concentrate on choral
> music,
> > I know there are a lot more FAQs whose answer I don't have.
> 
> A few comments:
> 
> LaTeX margins for lilypond-book:
> Packages work just fine.  This is what I use for all my lilypond-book
>  
> scores
> \documentclass[12pt,letterpaper]{book}
>
\usepackage[lmargin=15mm,rmargin=15mm,tmargin=10mm,bmargin=5mm,nofoot,no
> 
> head]{geometry}
> 
> Make sure you run the "texsetup" or "texconfig" and set the dvips
> paper  
> size to "letterpaper".  For some reason it defaults to A4 -- even
> when  
> you specify "letterpaper" in your .latex (or .lytex) file.  :(
> 

Another point regarding this is that the 'something important' that you
are missing is that only one of evensidemargin and oddsidemargin are
used on any one page.  They refer to the outside margin of even and odd
pages in a book respectively.  The inside margin does not need to be
specified as it is determined by the other lengths.  A diagram that
explains this is in Lampart's book as well as on page 113 of the 'Not
So Short Introduction to LaTeX 2e':

  

Having said that, I am having problems myself with the margins (I have
already asked a question about it) and Graham's suggestion is probably
better, although I don't have the geometry package installed.

Hope this helps,

Joe



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Re: Problem with textwidth and lilypond-book

[Joseph Haig]

Thanks for the help.  Sorry for replying directly rather than to the
list - I obviously forgot to 'reply to all', so it didn't pick up the
mailing list in the Cc.  Anyway, for the benefit of anyone else who may
have been following this thread, the solution is:

--- Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Please always keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the
> benefit 
> of yourself since you get access to the collected
> expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who experience
> similar problems. Feel free to quote my answer below if you wish.
> 
> What I had in mind was 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00441.html
> 
>/Mats
> 
> Quoting Joseph Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > I did try searching the archives before posting without success. 
> All I
> > found were suggestions to use the noquote and linewidth options
> which
> > do not seem to make any difference.  Sorry to be a pain but could
> you
> > please point me in the direction of the relevant postings.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> This is a known problem in version 2.6.x, see the mailing
> >> list archives for workarounds.
> >>
> >>/Mats
> >>
> >> Joseph Haig wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am trying to change them margins in a document that I run
> through
> >> >lilypond-book.  The code below is an example of what I am trying,
> >> but
> >> >the second line of the music is put, for some reason, to the
> right
> >> of
> >> >the first line and not below.  If I remove
> >> >'\setlength{\textwidth}{160mm}' then it appears correctly (except
> >> that
> >> >the margins are not how I want them).  Can anyone suggest what
> might
> >> be
> >> >the problem?  I am using version 2.6.3.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >Joe
> >> >
> >> >-- Code ---
> >> >
> >> >\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
> >> >
> >> >\usepackage{graphics}
> >> >
> >> >\setlength{\voffset}{-2cm}
> >> >\setlength{\hoffset}{0mm}
> >> >\addtolength{\hoffset}{-1in}
> >> >\setlength{\evensidemargin}{0mm}
> >> >\setlength{\textwidth}{160mm}
> >> >
> >> >\begin{document}
> >> >
> >> >\begin[noquote,linewidth]{lilypond}
> >> >
> >> >\relative c' {
> >> >c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
> >> >c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
> >> >c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
> >> >c d e f g a b c d e f g a b c b a g f e d c b a g f e d
> >> >}
> >> >
> >> >\end{lilypond}
> >> >
> >> >\end{document}
> >> >
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