Re: optical recognition for input

[Josiah Boothby]

On 1/17/22 15:34, James B. Wilkinson wrote:

Yes, I was using 12 because that seemed to be the one Oracle's website wanted 
to send me. I'll back up to 11.

I did look in the expanded src tree and found a blue million *.java files. I 
assume that the build process needs to compile all of them. Won't I need the 
JDK for that and not just the JRE? I'm not sure; been a while since I did any 
Java.


I'd assume that you would indeed need the JDK: the instructions for 
building for source specify three dependencies: git, gradle, and JDK 11.


—Josiah

adjusting stem length in metronome mark?

[Josiah Boothby]

I used to know how to do this, I think, but...how do I adjust the stem
length in a metronome mark? Seems like I should be able to do something like

\override MetronomeMark.stem-length = xyz

but that *specifically* doesn't appear to be available.

Something involving .add-stem-length perhaps?

—J

multi-line markup inside a single box

[Josiah Boothby]

Maybe I'm missing something obvious (it's 1:30 in the morning...it's not
unlikely!), but I'm trying to include a small two-line markup inside a
single box. The thing that seems obvious is producing two boxed lines,
which is not what I'm aiming for and is too visually cluttered for me to
accept as a compromise:

\markup\right-column\box{
  \line{Solos: 1st x tpt}
  \line{2nd x clr}
}

Any ideas?

Thanks!

—Josiah

Re: text at the end of a multimeasure rest

[Josiah Boothby]

So in my mockup I forgot to include the reason I hadn't wanted to use \mark
: I'd already been using \mark to delineate sections:

Time = {
  \mark\markup{ Minuet }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ fine } }
  \mark\markup{ Trio }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ D.C. al fine } }
}

Either the sectional headings or the roadmap text should be applied with
\mark, but not both. I'm of half a mind to do a feature request for
beginning and ending texts to be applicable to repeats (something perhaps
like \repeat \volta 2 { \with \startTextAbove "2x only" \endTextBelow "D.C.
al fine" } { \notes } but the current correct solution is probably just
evading me :P )

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:40 PM Paul Scott  wrote:

>
> On 1/4/21 11:58 PM, Jacques Menu wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> There were missing brackets:
>
> At least mismatched.  It should have been:
>
> R1*4 \endMarkDown \mark \markup{D.S. al Fine)
>
> Without parentheses.
>
> Happy New Year,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>   R1*4 \endMarkDown \mark \markup {(D.S. al Fine)}
>
> JM
>
> Le 5 janv. 2021 à 07:18, Paul Scott  a écrit :
>
>
> On 1/4/21 10:29 PM, Josiah Boothby wrote:
>
> I think I used to know how to do this but I can't find any evidence of it,
> but I'd like to do something that looks roughly like the following, where
> the text ("fine" or "D.C. al fine") are printed below the line:
>
> |: /— 4 —/ :|: /— 4 —/ fine :|
> |: /— 4 —/ :|: /— 4 —/ D.C. al fine :|
>
> ...while separating notes and time into separate variables. It seems like
> I should be able to do this by simply setting text to right-align:
>
> Time = {
>   \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
>   \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ fine } }
>   \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
>   \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ D.C. al fine } }
> }
>
> Notes = {
>   R1*4
>   R1*4
>   R1*4
>   R1*4
> }
>
> ...but that's clearly not how it works, since the text ends up being
> printed in the middle of the rest. Please remind me how to do this?
>
> s1*3 s1_"fine"
>
> ends up breaking the multimeasure rest, so is suboptimal.
>
>
>
> This is one of the pieces of code I have defined in  my common file that I
> load with all of my code:
>
>
> endMarkDown = {
>   \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #right
>   \once \override Score.RehearsalMark
>   #'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible
>   \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #DOWN
>   \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'font-size = #0
> }
>
> (The above could probably better but It works for me.
>
> Then:
>
> R1*4 \endMarkDown \mark \markup(D.S. al Fine)
>
> I also have endMark which puts the text above.
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul
>
>
>

text at the end of a multimeasure rest

[Josiah Boothby]

I think I used to know how to do this but I can't find any evidence of it,
but I'd like to do something that looks roughly like the following, where
the text ("fine" or "D.C. al fine") are printed below the line:

|: /— 4 —/ :|: /— 4 —/ fine :|
|: /— 4 —/ :|: /— 4 —/ D.C. al fine :|

...while separating notes and time into separate variables. It seems like I
should be able to do this by simply setting text to right-align:

Time = {
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ fine } }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4 }
  \repeat volta 2 { s1*4_\markup\right-align{ D.C. al fine } }
}

Notes = {
  R1*4
  R1*4
  R1*4
  R1*4
}

...but that's clearly not how it works, since the text ends up being
printed in the middle of the rest. Please remind me how to do this?

s1*3 s1_"fine"

ends up breaking the multimeasure rest, so is suboptimal.

—Josiah

Re: Cautionary clef collision with rest

[Josiah Boothby]

Well, now at least I know of a way to move it around, but I have no
idea what the pair of numbers for x-extent mean (and #'(-5 . 5) puts
the clef in an even stranger place). Looking through the documentation
only tells me that X-extent takes two numbers, but doesn't actually
inform me of what those numbers *do*. *headdesk*

I'll tinker until I figure it out, but thanks for the pointer.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:53 PM Pierre Perol-Schneider
 wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
>
> Maybe try:
>
> \version "2.20.0"
>
> {
>   \clef F \time 3/4
>   R2.*3
>   \clef G
>   g4 r r g r r
>   \once\override Staff.Clef.X-extent = #'(-5 . 5)
>   \clef F
> }
>
> and properly set the extent.
> HTH.
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le lun. 1 juin 2020 à 07:32, Josiah Boothby  a écrit :
>>
>> I'm struggling to increase the padding for a cautionary clef in a
>> slightly crowded line, since it's colliding with rests when there are
>> notes on other lines. Attached is an image of the score I'm working
>> with as I'm struggling to come up with a concise test snippet that
>> doesn't have other problems. Should I instead adjust the measure
>> width? I'm using 2.20.0.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Josiah

Cautionary clef collision with rest

[Josiah Boothby]

I'm struggling to increase the padding for a cautionary clef in a
slightly crowded line, since it's colliding with rests when there are
notes on other lines. Attached is an image of the score I'm working
with as I'm struggling to come up with a concise test snippet that
doesn't have other problems. Should I instead adjust the measure
width? I'm using 2.20.0.

Thank you,

Josiah

Re: Strings as variable names

[Josiah Boothby]

Sorry to delve into this a bit late, but an earlier point in this
ongoing thread is relevant to work currently on my desk :)

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:20:28 +0100
David Kastrup  wrote:

> > flute_phrase01 =
> > flute_phrase02 =
> >
> > or similar.
> 
> When would you ever want to do that?

Actually, I've got two use cases for this loaded in my editor right
now. The first (an older, ongoing project) is a set of about 150 simple
etudes. I can use--and am using--Roman numerals. It feels like a little
bit of a cludge, but it works. The second is a bit more involved. 

I'm writing a set of accuracy training exercises that involve
simple permutations of chromatic trichords (e.g., changes of order, and
octave shifts). I'm currently using Roman numerals because there is no
reasonable concise, descriptive name of each permutation that does not
involve enumeration, and Arabic numbers are out of the question. So I
have a legend at the top of each include file describing what my
nomenclature means:

% Trichord Variable Names
% 012: A
% 013: B
% 014: C
% 015: D
% 016: E
% 024: F
% 025: G
% 026: H
% 027: I
% 036: J
% 037: K
% 048: L
% 
% Permutations: 
% Aa, Ab, Ac, Ad, etc.
% 
% Permutation Variations:
% AaI, AaII, AaIII, etc.
% 
% Respellings (enharmonic respelling for legibility):
% AaIi, AaIii, AaIiii, etc.

Now, yes, I'm sure that with a handful of hours of trying to learn
Scheme, I could probably find a way to do this that doesn't involve so
many lines of Lilypond code, but my free time to work on this
particular project is in half-hours here and there: learning enough
scheme to do this is impractical. So in the meantime, I basically have
to give each three-note motive a variable with a coded name that allows
sufficient differentiation and can be searched reasonably easily.
Variables with Arabic numerals would make these far more descriptive
and easier to read! Such as, for instance, trichord (0,1,6), in the
form and ordering of (0,11,5), enharmonic spelling version "c": 

\016_0e5-c

...instead of:

\EbIIiii  

...which is oblique and obnoxious to read. (And which I have to remind
myself not to read as "E-flat...er...major? Minor? Huh?")

Again, programming with scheme is almost definitely the correct--or at
least most efficient and elegant--approach. But for reasons of time
management for a freelance performer with next to zero programming
experience, the preparatory study requirements make this superior
approach non-pragmatic. 

Best,

Josiah

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numbering a series of exercises

[Josiah Boothby]

Hello all,

I'm trying to do something that I suspect is easily done with scheme,
but I have no idea how: I'd like to create a list of exercises that are
automatically numbered. I'm currently using instrumentName for the
numbers, to get something that looks something like this:

1. ===
=

2. ===
=

3. ===
===

With code that looks something a little like this:

next = % simple scheme addition

exercise = \markup { \concat \next . }

\score {
  \new Staff \with {
instrumentName = \exercise
  } { 
% music 
  }
}

Thanks!

—Josiah

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Re: numbering a series of exercises

[Josiah Boothby]

On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 02:20:51 +0100
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi Josiah,
 
 is this what you want?
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-10/msg00144.html

That got me on the right track, thank you! What I ended up with is a
bit simpler:

#(define sequence-number 0)

#(set! sequence-number (1+ sequence-number))
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = \markup { 
  \concat {#(number-string sequence-number)} . % 1.
}
  } 
  % music
}

#(set! sequence-number (1+ sequence-number))
\score {
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = \markup { 
  \concat {#(number-string sequence-number)} . % 2.
}
  } 
  % music
}

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Re: Variables as variables

[Josiah Boothby]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:00:59 +0100
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote:

 Now I want to re-use bbb with a different value of aaa. Like a real
 variable as known from other programming languages.
 
   aaa = { c4 d e f }
   bbb = { a4 a a a \aaa b4 b b b }
   \score { \bbb }% a4 a a a c4 d e f b4 b b b
   aaa = { f4 e d c }
   \score { \bbb }% a4 a a a f4 e d c b4 b b b
 
 Of course, this does not work. But I'm sure it can be made to work
 with some schemish tweaks beyond my current capabilities.

Would not a more canonical way be to use tags? Not as elegant maybe,
but:

aaa = { 
  \tag #'first { c4 d e f }
  \tag #'second { f4 e d c }
} 

bbb = { 
  a4 a a a 
  s4*4 
  b4 b b b 
}

\score {  \bbb { s4*4 \keepWithTag #'first \aaa }  }

\score {  \bbb { s4*4 \keepWithTag #'second \aaa }  }

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Re: kerning/ligatures in opentype fonts

[Josiah Boothby]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:05:50 +0100
Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:

 I was about to ask in that direction.  If for a font ff leads to 
 collisions, and the ligature is not correct at that point, is it 
 recommended to insert space or to switch the font?  Or, stated 
 differently:  Should I consider it a sign of low quality of a font if 
 consecutive letters collide or touch unpleasantly, even if a ligature 
 exists?

The short answer is yes. Some typefaces are designed to minimize
unwanted ligatures. Zapf's Palatino family comes immediately to mind
(and my eye finds Palatino to harmonize quite nicely with Lilypond's
music fonts), with the solution of an f with a short arm—this was a
specific design choice that Hermann Zapf made, as he was aware of
some of the technological problems facing typography. Some other fonts
are designed with this in mind (e.g., Gentium), but I don't know of any
others that I've used with Lilypond. The alternative is, yes, to adjust
the horizontal spacing to reduce risk of collision or visual cacophony. 

—Josiah

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Re: smallCaps and accented letters

[Josiah Boothby]

 I noticed in a score that I've recently typeset that smallCaps doesn't
 support accented characters (which is indeed written in the manual).
...
 For now, is there a workaround?

I don't remember how I found this (possibly through searching through
the mailing list archives, because that's how I found it again), but
Michael Lauer has a website that provides, among other things, some
include files that aid in some advanced formatting—including true small
caps, if they are supported by the font you use. I typically use Linux
Libertine, which looks nice enough and has all the characters I'm
likely to ever need to use. 

Links: 

Michael Lauer's music site http://www.mrlauer.org/music/

Linux Libertine fonts: http://www.linuxlibertine.org/

Best,

Josiah

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Re: film score example

[Josiah Boothby]

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:45:33 +0100
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Would you like to sponsor this?  For $20 i could add special
  accidentals to LilyPond font and adjust \flat, \sharp and \natural
  commands to use them (and maybe others like \semiflat, if i'll have
  time).
 
 Why not use the Unicode charpoints, like B♭, F♯ and so on?  They are
 _supposed_ to go well with the text font and kern properly.

I would gladly sponsor this, and have thought for a long time that
E\flat should not in most cases require any additional effort (much
less the considerable extra effort it currently requires) to look
correct. 

I would also sponsor a solution for using this text accidental in
lilypond-book. 

—Josiah

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text accidentals [was Re: film score example]

[Josiah Boothby]

To clarify:

   Would you like to sponsor this?  For $20 i could add special
   accidentals to LilyPond font and adjust \flat, \sharp and
   \natural commands to use them (and maybe others like \semiflat,
   if i'll have time).
 
  Why not use the Unicode charpoints, like B♭, F♯ and so on?  They
  are _supposed_ to go well with the text font and kern properly.
 
  I would gladly sponsor this, and have thought for a long time that
  E\flat should not in most cases require any additional effort (much
  less the considerable extra effort it currently requires) to look
  correct.
 
 It's great that you're willing to sponsor!
 But, as your reply is below David's quoted message about Unicode
 accidentals, i'm not sure what you'd like to sponsor - could you
 clarify?
 Unicode accidentals are supported now, but as i already wrote, they
 look horrible in my opinon.

I am interested in accidentals being usable in text markups in the form
of \flat or \sharp, preferably including microtones and
double-accidentals. I'll define usable here as being of a size and
placement that is visually balanced and pleasing. It's possible that
the best place to put them is in the music symbols charpoints of the
LilyPond fonts and draw from them as needed; I think this is what David
has suggested, but I know next to nothing about fonts from this angle.
In fact, I can't say I'm particularly picky about the mechanics of how
to make this work since this is so far outside of my areas of expertise.

If other folks are interested in joining in on the sponsorship, I don't
object to help, but how do you prefer payment?

  I would also sponsor a solution for using this text accidental in
  lilypond-book.
 
 I totally recommend using LilyGlyphs!  Their added advantage is that
 they are already implemented - you can send money to Urs right away,
 he deserves it! :-)

Looking into it :)

—J

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Re: Quick Frescobaldi question

[Josiah Boothby]

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/5/7 SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com

 Hello all,

 I was just playing around in Frescobaldi tonight and I noticed that since
 updating to v2.0.9, my menu items are now text and not icons*.

 See included images please: can anyone tell me if I can make my Ubuntu
 13.04
 version show icons like in the Windows 7/8 screenshot?

 Am I missing a package or something?

 Thanks for any feedback,


 I can't remember if you have solved this issue..
 If you use Gnome 3 you can enable the icons system wide in dconf:

 dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/interface/menus-have-icons true

 I don't know if it works on Unity

Another option:

Because Frescobaldi is written in QT rather than GTK, the standard
Gnome configuration utilities may not do the job.

In Edit - Preferences, under the General Preferences tab, try
toggling the Use System Icons option. This may work at the cost of
having a different icon set in Frescobaldi than you use in your
desktop environment.

—Josiah

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Re: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?

[Josiah Boothby]

  I'd like to collect some suggestion for a replacement font for
  Century Schoolbook.

So far, Linux Libertine[1] has been my go-to replacement font,
especially when I want to be more economical with horizontal space.
It's not the most beautiful font in the world, but it does look good on
paper, has a sans-serif font that harmonizes well with it (Linux
Biolinum), supports Eastern European languages (which I sometimes
need), and has a sober, practical look that allows it to slip under the
radar of most people who think that Times is the only reasonable font
for any use at all. 

 Besides a font with similar functionality as Minion, I would like to
 find a font which resembles the `classical' text font used about 100
 years ago in Germany for virtually all vocal scores (see attachment).
 Interestingly, I haven't seen a good replacement yet in *any*
 computer-typesetted score.

One I use when I want to use that 'classical' look is Old Standard[2].
Unfortunately, it doesn't have bold italic (which is rarely an issue,
but is sometimes annoying) and sometimes doesn't look good on screen,
but it is a pretty good replica of that old modern typeface and looks
fine on paper.

I keep hoping that some of the nice serifed fonts put out by the League
of Moveable Type,[3] such as their reproductions of some Goudy fonts,
will expand to include bold faces. 

Another source of open fonts that may be of sufficient quality for use
in scores is Arkandis Digital Foundry[4].

1. http://www.linuxlibertine.org/

2. http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/oldstandard.html

3. http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/

4. http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffonts.html

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Re: font selection

[Josiah Boothby]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:52:18 +
Gerard McConnell gerine...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 A Microsoft security update prevents me from using Lilypond's
 OpenType Century Schoolbook L.

This baffles me, but as someone who hasn't used Windows much in the
last few years, I have no idea how to help you with this bit.

 I replaced the default fonts with the following from section 1.8.3 in
 the Notation Reference:
 
 myStaffSize=#20
 #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree Times New Roman
 Nimbus Sans
 Luxi Mono
   ( / myStaffSize 20 ) ))
 
 Which is great.  However, if I remove myStaffSize=#20  and  ( /
 myStaffSize 20 )
 it gets the error message:
 
 C:/Documents and
 Settings/Dad/Desktop/musicPages/guitarTwinkle.ly:17:9: error: GUILE
 signaled an error for the expression beginning here #
  (define fonts
 
 Is there a simple answer for why the extra lines allow it to work?

The myStaffSize variable is needed for determining font size
relationships and should be set to whatever your global staff size is
(default is 20). The ( / myStaffSize 20) divides myStaffSize by twenty
so that the text sizes are scaled properly with the staff size. 

Best,

Josiah

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musica ficta with an additional accidental

[Josiah Boothby]

I'd like to write a suggested/editorial accidental above a note that
already has an accidental to the left of the notehead, and would
ideally like the alteration to transpose when the voice is transposed.

Example:

A C-sharp with a suggested natural, transposed down a whole step
should be a B-natural with a suggested flat.

I am able to make this work with tags, but am looking to see if there
is a better way. Should there be a feature request for a command that
inserts an accidental above the note (e.g., cis^\ficta #'natural  [1]
or bes^\natural) without altering the accidental to the left of the
note, but with the ability to be transposed?

Thanks,

Josiah

[1.] Perhaps folks who know old notation better than I could suggest a
more appropriate name for such a command... this is worlds away from
my area expertise.

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Re: Help with musicxml2ly

[Josiah Boothby]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:04 PM, TaoCG tao_lilypondu...@gmx.net wrote:
 pls-2 wrote
 Hi,

 can you replicate the error in a tiny example and post the .xml-file?

 Right now I can only guess. Is there a pickup measure? Are there multiple
 voices?

 patrick

 Unfortunately no. It's a very complex piece which I got in Sibelius format
 which I exported then to musicxml hoping I'd be able to convert it to
 lilypond. Actually I have no idea how musicxml works.
 It has no pickup measure but definitely multiple voices.

 You think if it's too complex musicxml2ly can't handle it?
 Maybe I'll just have to copy it by hand.

 Tao

I have found that multiple voices have made musicxml2ly unable to work
with xml files I've tried to use. I found success in opening an xml
file with MuseScore, cleaning any unnecessary complications
(separating out voices, etc.), and exporting it from there.

That said, I spent enough time on all of that business that I wonder
if simply re-typing it would have been a better use of my time.

—Josiah

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Re: Compress Full Bar Rests

[Josiah Boothby]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:24:30 +0200
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:

 Hugh Resnick writes:
 
  Consider lumping your measures together, so: s1*3 instead of s1 s1
  s1
  
  —Josiah
 
  Perfect. Thank you so much.
 
 I'd like to ask some more silly questions here
 
   * why is this [*3] necessary?

Phil responded already, but here's my couple of cents:

s generally works like r or R, so having consistent behavior can be
useful. Since I separate out formal elements from musical content, it's
nice to have multimeasure break points that will exist in all parts,
and this seems to be the best way to do it. 
 
 and if it is necessary, then
 
   * why isn't it obvious?
 
 and if it isn't obvious, then
   
   * why does the documentation fail?

Although I don't think it's strictly necessary, I do find it very
useful. I don't think it was obvious to me, and I vaguely recall
working it out with trial and error, so perhaps it would be good to
improve the documentation in this regard.

—Josiah

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Re: Compress Full Bar Rests

[Josiah Boothby]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:58:05 + (UTC)
Hugh Resnick hugh.resn...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm not top posting.
 
 Jan N. himself requested that I send this question to the forum after
 becoming frustrated with it last night and tweeting about it. I
 cannot see what I am doing incorrectly that would prevent
 \compressFullBarRests from working in this situation. When I compile
 the following, I get no error message, but neither do I get
 compressed bars. Is there a command that I am missing, or one that I
 do have that prevents the compression? BTW, the piece is not really
 called Neener Neener. 

Consider lumping your measures together, so: s1*3 instead of s1 s1 s1

—Josiah

 \paper { papersize = letter 
   linewidth = 165 \mm
   indent = 20 \mm
 % interscoreline = 4.0 \mm
 }
 \include english.ly
 \version 2.14.2
 #(set-global-staff-size 22)
 
 \header {
   title = \markup { \small Neener Neener }
   composer = 
   poet = 
   instrument = \markup { \concat{ B \teeny \raise #0.4 \flat }
 Trumpet } opus = September 2012
   source = 
   copyright = 2012
   
 }
 
 global = { 
 
 %%%TIME SIGNATURE%%%
 
 \time 4/4 s4 s1 s1 
 \time 3/4 s2. \break s2. s2. s2. s2. s2. \break s2. s2. s2. s2. s2.
 \break s2. \time 4/4 s1 s1 s1 \break s1 s1 s1 s1 \break s1
 \time 3/4 s2. s2. s2. s2. \break s2. s2. s2. s2. s2. 
 \time 4/4 s1 \break s1
 \time 3/4 s2. s2. s2. s2. \break s2. s2. s2.
 \time 4/4 s1 s1
 \time 3/4 s2. s2. s2.
 
 }
 
 rit = \markup { \italic rit. }
 
 
 
 trumpet =  \relative c' { 
 \clef treble
 \key g \major
 
 \partial 4
 d8 d16 d16 |
 g4. g8 a4 g8 a8 |
 b8. c16 d4 r8 \autoBeamOff e,8 d'[ c] \autoBeamOn |
 b2 e,4 |
 c' b4. g8 |
 fs2 e4 |
 d2. |
 \compressFullBarRests
 R2.*8 |
 R1*8 |
 R2.*9 |
 R1*2 | 
 R2.*2 |
 R2.^\fermataMarkup |
 \tempo A tempo
 d4 g d' |
 c2 g8 a |
 b4 d b8 g |
 a4 e d8 d16 d16 |
 g4. g8 a4 g8 a8 |
 b8. c16 d4 r8 \autoBeamOff d8 g[ fs] \autoBeamOn |
 e8 e16 e16 e4 g |
 a4 g4. e8 |
 g2. |
 \bar |.
 
 }
 
 \score {   
 \new Voice = trumpet 
 
  \global { \trumpet } \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup
 {  \concat{ B \teeny \raise #0.4 \flat } Trumpet }  
 
 
  } 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Frescobaldi- python-poppler-qt4

[Josiah Boothby]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Ole Schmidt m...@oleschmidt.info wrote:
 Hi,

 I've just installed Frescobaldi from source on my mac, running Mac OS 10.6.8
 How can I install python-poppler-qt4 (for pdf-viewing)?

 When I follow the instructions I get the following error:

 ja?~/Public/python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2$ python setup.py build
 running build
 running build_ext
 building 'popplerqt4' extension
 Can't determine version of poppler-qt4
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/sip -I 
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/share/sip -t 
 POPPLER_V0_12_0 -c build/temp.macosx-10.6-intel-2.7 -b 
 build/temp.macosx-10.6-intel-2.7/poppler-qt4.sbf -I 
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/share/sip/PyQt4 -x VendorID 
 -t WS_MACX -x PyQt_NoPrintRangeBug -t Qt_4_8_0 -x Py_v3 -g poppler-qt4.sip
 unable to execute /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/sip: 
 No such file or directory
 error: command '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/sip' 
 failed with exit status 1

 what am I missing?

Perhaps double check that SIP, PyQt4, and Python-Poppler-Qt4 are all
installed and at the same version. As Wilbert suggested in a previous
message, the build may fail if the dependencies aren't in agreement.

—Josiah

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Re: tunefl and other web services

[Josiah Boothby]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:03:45 -0700
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
 
  
  PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the 
  /priests/ using Lily might have a problem with that :) 
 
 
 I'm not a priest. However, I still don't like the picture. I don't 
 mean that I disapprove, I mean that I don't think it looks good 
 enough to be used as advertising. To be (possibly a little too) 
 blunt, the fact that it's obviously not a professional job of 
 makeup, wardrobe, and photography is a major part of that. But 
 essentially, from my point of view, (and to be even more 
 unpleasantly blunt) if software needs a picture of a pretty girl 
 to sell it when in fact it's already free, then there must be 
 something wrong with the software - or with the salesman. I don't 
 think that's the best possible impression Lilypond can give.
 

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:20:56 +0100
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:

 I agree.  It reminds me of sleazy 1990s CD-roms selling shareware
 sofware.

I am also not a priest, but I think the picture, along with the message
it accompanies, is in poor taste: although some people may find that
particular pretty face gives them a warm feeling and a motivation to
make more beautiful things, many other people are likely to find that
picture exclusive of their selves. A lot of those people who are likely
to feel excluded by software conflating pictures of attractive blond
women with universal beauty just happen to be some of the same people
who already tend to feel (and are) marginalized in free software and
open source communities, not to mention the tech industry in general.

This list is probably not the place for in-depth discussion of these
kinds of matters, so if anybody disagrees or is offended or confused by
my point, please respond to me directly.

Good thing Lilypond is good enough on its own grounds that I can
suggest it to people without sending them to gatekeepers who use sleaze
to market it :)

—Josiah

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Re: Appreciation / Financial support

[Josiah Boothby]

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:22:55 -0500
Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:

 I think that this could simplify the syntax by creating a standard
 skeleton for .ly files going from most global to most specific:
 
 \version information
 
 \paper information
 
 \form information (number of bars, repeat locations, bars-per-line,
 rehearsal mark locations, number of staves, instruments/voices,
 \clef, \key, \time, etc.)
 
 \music information (could be \notes (including percussion),
 \chordnames or \lyrics)
 
 I think that the \score block could possibly be eliminated if the
 required information was specified in the other blocks; much of that
 information would be under \form (e.g., how many staves and what
 information is assigned to those staves).  There could be one method
 for engraving chord names and lyrics instead of multiple methods.
 But it may be that there would be no practical way to separate form
 information into its own block separate from note/chord information.

This sounds at least a little like the way I usually organize my
scores, though the \score block becomes necessary at least for deciding
*how* to put all of the formal and musical elements together:

%%% code snippet begins 
\version 2.[whatever]

\paper {}

Form = {
  % key, time, and form elements, usually referenced in an
  % included file
}

Notes = {
  % note information, also usually referenced in an include file
}

\score {
  \new Staff  
% put it all together!
\Form
\Notes
  

  \layout {}
  %\midi {} 
}
%%% code snippet ends

So while there may be more graceful ways to ask for four-bar lines
(something in layout, perhaps, like \four-bar-lines = ##t? but that
brings up its own problems), it's already pretty easy separate the
formal and musical elements -- and in ways that are suggested and
supported in the official documentation. 

-- 
Josiah Boothby
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http://josiahboothby.org

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Re: how to stretch the bar width?

[Josiah Boothby]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm sure this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything in the
 archives.  Guess I'm using the wrong keywords.

 I'm writing a legenda for tablature and I'm using \markup over each bar to
 explain the notation.
 As you can see in the attached example, the markup blocks are moved
 vertically to avoid collisions.  I'd like to stretch the bars so that
 there's enough room for markup.

 I don't want to use spacer rests.
 Any advice is welcome.

 Thanks,
 Federico


Federico,

You could try \textLengthOn (and \textLengthOff after); the manual has
this to say about it:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-rests#full-measure-rests

and

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-text#text-scripts

To apply it to the whole measure, you could try something like this:


  {
c4 c c c
  }
  {
\textLengthOn
s1^Here are some fine instructions
\textLengthOff
  }


This could get cumbersome if you have to do it often. If you do have
to use this often, I would separate the instructions into their own
variable (which in my own personal practice ends up getting put into
the variable I use for time and nearly everything that is not notes,
dynamics, or articulations):

instructions = {
  \time 4/4
  \textLengthOn
  s1^Do it this way and this way and that way. |
  \textLengthOff
  s1 | % no instructions in this measure, so it's spaced normally
  \textLengthOn
  s1^More instructions for you here and here.
}

notes = {
  c4 c c c |
  c c c c |
  c c c c
}

\score {
  
{ \instructions }
{ \notes }
  
}

If you need to change the length of the measure manually (e.g., if my
suggestions don't work), there's always this:

\once \override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #24

...but I'd be inclined to let the spacing be handled by Lilypond, if
possible, rather than by counting picas.

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Re: how to stretch the bar width?

[Josiah Boothby]

Just tested my example. Didn't work. Not even a little bit. The
suggestion given in the other thread is certainly the better way.

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Re: Notation of french horn

[Josiah Boothby]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:50, Tim Reeves tim.ree...@tokamerica.com wrote:
 Holst First Suite for Military Band (in E flat) (1909) - written for four
 horns in E flat - those were common in early twentieth century bands - horn
 parts have no sharps or flats in key signature - nowadays the player would
 get a part that said Horn in E flat and she would transpose down a whole
 step as she plays, or a part for horn in F (written out a whole step lower)
 would be provided and this would have two flats and not require thought by
 the player about transposing.

 Holst's Jupiter from The Planets (c. 1916) C major, but six horns in F still
 with no key signature (should be one sharp). As a comparison, the clarinet
 parts have two sharps, and the English horn part has one sharp.

This outlines yet another complication, and that is the difference
between the band and orchestral traditions. The brass instruments of
the brass band are to the orchestral brass instruments as the
saxophones are to orchestral woodwinds: they were designed to have a
consistent sound and playing technique for all instruments in their
family, so in the case of the brass, they were all given piston valves
and it seems that most of them were given a cylindrical bore (like the
trumpet and trombone, but different than the horn and tuba). Those
instruments did not draw upon the traditions of the orchestral brass,
and observed modern conventions for transposition (pick one (e-flat)
or two (...and f?) no more!) and key signatures (use them!), and even
in the modern wind ensemble tradition, it seems that brass parts owe
such conventions to this rather than to the orchestral tradition.

In the orchestral literature, Ravel and Shostakovich eschewed key
signatures for the horns, even when they used them for other
instruments. Vaughn Williams's Sea Symphony (finished in 1909) gives
the horns no key signature.

It is not necessary to continue this tradition, but if you are writing
for an orchestral horn player, you might want to check in with them.
Fortunately, you can just comment a line of code if you don't want a
key signature. (Or use \tag...)

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Re: Notation of french horn

[Josiah Boothby]

 Vaughn Williams's Sea Symphony (finished in 1909) gives the horns no key 
 signature.

In his second symphony (finished in 1914), he gives no key signature
to the horns or trumpets (both in F), but does give a key signature to
the cornets.

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Re: Notation of french horn

[Josiah Boothby]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 21:31, Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net wrote:
 Thanks to all for the answer. I wasn't aware of the transposed notation
 praxis for this instrument. So I think it will be best to write the actual
 notes as they should appear on the sheet. This can make discussions with the
 performers easier.

 If I generate a MIDI file to look for mistakes I will use the \transpose by
 a fifth to get a well sounding output.

In order to get a good MIDI file, you may have to also use
\transposition (as well as \transpose) to get it to sound right. My
memory is always fuzzy on when this is needed, so every time I want to
use MIDI, I have to look it up (and sometimes have to dance the
trial-and-error dance).

Best,

Josiah

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Re: Notation of french horn

[Josiah Boothby]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 15:44, Timothy Reeves timothyrree...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've played horn for a while (albeit for only a third of a century not a
 full half century ;) and I would say that while you *may* write it with no
 key signature and accidentals where needed, it is not expected by modern
 players, who are all quite used to key signatures. The former way was the
 norm over a hundred years ago, but not now.

...or, if you're working with a horn player, you could ask them for
their preference. Many horn players, especially those with a
more-or-less strictly traditional orchestral background, have a
preference for no key signature. That said, any horn player of any
reasonable skill can play music with a key signature with no real
problems. This is, after all, nearly two hundred years since the valve
was invented (though we still haven't done the sensible thing and
moved to C clefs).

Now, as for my personal preference as a horn player? I've only got
about a fifth of a century behind me, but I only want to see a key
signature if it makes reading the music easier. If the music is
heavily chromatic, I'd rather not see a key signature. I have
re-notated composers' parts for me because I did not like their
choices regarding key signatures and accidentals. Maybe that's just
because I'm a nerd, though, but now I'm off-topic.

Best,

Josiah

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Re: Notation of french horn

[Josiah Boothby]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:07, Jonas Olson jol...@kth.se wrote:
 On the valveless horn you change crooks to give the instrument a
 transposition that matches the music. That way, the music is always
 notated in C major (assuming major mode), just like how music sounding
 in B♭ major, played on a B♭ clarinet, is written as C major. Rather than
 calling this no key signature, I'd say we have the key signature of C
 major.

Close, but not exactly. Horns and trumpets were generally given no key
signatures even in movements that were in keys other than that for
their crooks. This convention is more related to a harpist's
preference to see notes flatted or sharped based on what strings they
would be using, since it makes it easier to see what our hand has to
do when we have to make an alteration.

 When we switch over to valves, we no longer match the transposition of
 the instrument to the key of the music, so it's only natural for other
 key signatures to appear. To continue the tradition of valveless horns,
 one would rather have to consider every valve press to be a change of
 crooks that alters the transposition of the instrument, and then write
 for this transposition until it's time for the next valve press.

That would be hilarious. I would pay you twenty-five cents to arrange
the horn parts to, say, Tristan und Isolde so that each new fingering
is notated as a crook change. I'd pay fifty cents if it was actually
legible.

 In summary, having no key signature (rather, the key signature of C
 major) appears natural to me when dealing with valveless horns (whose
 transposition match the key of the music) but not when it comes to horns
 with valves. I'm looking forward to getting this explained to me!

As Tiresia explained, the tradition has more to do with horn players
being accustomed to one way rather than another. Perhaps this is like
bass clef,[1] and eventually horn players will generally prefer to see
key signatures to bring them fully into the modern world. But in the
meantime, you can always spot an orchestral horn player griping about
having to deal with key signatures.

—Josiah

[1] old notation bass clef is another vestige of the natural horn
that had us reading bass clef notes an octave lower than the treble
clef transposition (middle C would be in the second space of the bass
clef). If only we'd move to using C clefs and no transposition!

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Re: Notation of french horn

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 That would be hilarious. I would pay you twenty-five cents to arrange
 the horn parts to, say, Tristan und Isolde so that each new fingering
 is notated as a crook change. I'd pay fifty cents if it was actually
 legible.

 Wagner sometimes got close to this. Look at the first horn part to
 Lohengrin. Especially the beginning of act 3:
 http://imslp.org/wiki/Lohengrin,_WWV_75_(Wagner,_Richard). It's silly.

 Amazing.  It's like Wagner was being charged double for every ledger
 line, and used crook changes and clef changes to avoid them.  The
 trumpet part has as many changes as the horn part.

 I do have to say that I don't intuitively understand why no key
 signatures were used.  I understand it is tradition, but I don't see why
 an exception was needed.

You're not far off, actually, and Wagner did this for his horns and
trumpets (and Wagner tubas). He knew he was writing extraordinarily
difficult horn parts for players who were playing technologically new
instruments, and he knew that early adopters of the valves were very
accustomed to transposing. So not only did he end up eschewing key
signatures (they would only confuse the poor horn players!), but he
took advantage of our little mind games: writing for Horn in A or Bb
doesn't actually make the high notes easier for a valved horn, but
horn players seem less likely to choke on the high notes when they
don't have ledger lines to scare them.

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Re: Oldstyle Figures (OSF) from OpenType Font

[Josiah Boothby]

 can anybody tell me if I can use the 'Old Style Figure' subset of an
 OpenType font in markups?

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe there is currently a way to do
this. Perhaps post to the Bugs list as a feature request?

—Josiah

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Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius

[Josiah Boothby]

Thank you, Mattias, for showing me this workaround!

 You could also try to import the musicxml file into MuseScore: MuseScore is
 available for Linux, Windows and Mac. It does not only read musicxml, but
 midi as well. Plus: it exports in lilypond-format!

 I've had success in reading a musicxml file which would *not* convert with
 the musicxml2ly script. This very file could be imported in MuseScore and
 exported as lilypond file.

Success! Eventually.

The problem seems to have been the fact that there were some cues
(possibly relevant: more than one), so there were measures where there
were more than one voice. Once I was able to delete the cues, I was
able to export to .ly without crashing MuseScore. Exporting to .xml at
this point, to test with musicxml2ly, did not produce a
lilypond-compatible .xml file.

—Josiah

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Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius

[Josiah Boothby]

 That is a python error, a bug in the musicxml2ly script.
 children is a list and index is a number but the number is higher than the 
 list has items.
 Can't tell more from just that exception.

 Nils

Nils, would you like to see the file? I shouldn't put it out on the
internet where all can see (I'm not by any stretch the copyright
holder), but if you think looking at the file would help, I'd happily
send it your way.

 You could also try to import the musicxml file into MuseScore: MuseScore is
 available for Linux, Windows and Mac. It does not only read musicxml, but
 midi as well. Plus: it exports in lilypond-format!

 I've had success in reading a musicxml file which would *not* convert with
 the musicxml2ly script. This very file could be imported in MuseScore and
 exported as lilypond file.

Matthias, thank you for the suggestion. Will try that just as soon as
musescore finishes compiling :P

—Josiah

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musicxml2ly from sibelius

[Josiah Boothby]

A composer recently gave me a messy part he'd prepared with Sibelius,
and I asked him for a musicxml file on the off chance that it might
work in Lilypond and I could clean it up. With Lilypond 2.15.36
(Slackware 13.37, x86), I get the error below along with no output
file. I tried the prebuilt lilypond stable as well, and the only
difference in the console output are line numbers in the musicxml2ly
script. Should I send this to the bugs list, or is there something I
can do as a user (without access to Sibelius) to improve the
likelihood of getting this to work?

# # # # # Console Output

$ musicxml2ly -v --loglevel=DEBUG --nd --nrp --npl --no-beaming -o
moore.ly moore.xml
Setting loglevel to DEBUG
musicxml2ly: Reading MusicXML from moore.xml ...
musicxml2ly: Converting to LilyPond expressions...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2984, in module
main()
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2979, in main
voices = convert (filename, options)
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2885, in convert
(voices, staff_info) = get_all_voices (parts)
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2572, in get_all_voices
part_ly_voices[n] = musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice (v)
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2174, in musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice
for a in musicxml_direction_to_lily (n):
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1534, in musicxml_direction_to_lily
ev = tmp_tp (entry)
  File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 1465, in musicxml_metronome_to_ly
if isinstance (children[index], musicxml.BeatUnitDot):
IndexError: list index out of range

# # # # # End Console Output

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Re: musicxml2ly from sibelius

[Josiah Boothby]

 I'm a bit surprised you have musicxml from Sibelius.  As far as I was
 aware, it doesn't export into _any_ useful interchange format, including
 musicxml.

 Googling suggests there is an expensive 3rd party program.

Googling also suggests that Sibelius is confident of their MusicXML
output in version 7.x.

Using xmllint to test for xml validity, it does not appear to have any
problems there, so it seems to me that there are problems either with
Sibelius's export to xml or with Lilypond's conversion scripts.
Sibelius's dev team primarily tests transport to and from Finale, so I
think both export and conversion are likely culprits for problems.

—Josiah

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Re: ubuntu lyx lilypond latex

[Josiah Boothby]

When I experimented with this, it seemed that LyX required a
sufficiently recent minimum version of Lilypond. If the version of
Ubuntu you're using has an outdated version of Lilypond, LyX won't use
it.

Make sure you have lilypond version 2.14.x or greater as well as Lyx 2.0.x.

--Josiah

2011/9/13 Pablo Zumarán pab...@ymail.com:

 I have v2.0.0. From what you've said in response to my query, I gather that
 v2.0.1 already has a lilypond-book latex package. If that's not so, do you
 know where I can find it? Thanks!


 Nick Payne-3 wrote:

 On 13/09/11 09:02, Pablo Zumarán wrote:
 I need some basic help will lilypond-latex installation.

 I want to use Ubuntu exclusively to write a musicological book with
 lilypond+LyX.

 To get rid of some rubbish that was stalling my system, I reinstalled
 Ubuntu
 from zero; then I installed LyX and A decent selection of the TeX Live
 packages. I also have lilypond in my usr/bin.

 In LyX, when I go to DocumentSettingsModules and try to insert the
 lilypond-book module, I get a message saying:

 Package not available: The module lilypond requires a package that is
 not
 available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that you have not
 installed. (...) Missing prerequisites: lilypond-book-latex.

 What do I have to install now? Where do I get it?
 Which version of LyX do you have installed. I think you need a minimum
 of v2.0. The latest stable version from ftp.lyx.org is 2.0.1 - see
 ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/2.0.x/. You will need to download the
 source (lyx-2.0.1.tar.gz) and follow the instructions in the INSTALL
 file to build and install it. It's not very difficult.

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Re: wiki or blog with lilypond

[Josiah Boothby]

 Wordpress:
 http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/scorerender/

I tried this recently. ScoreRender appears to be sporadically
maintained and does not appear to be compatible with modern versions
of either Lilypond or Wordpress.

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Re: [Lilypond] half-stopped horn

[Josiah Boothby]

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:54:44 -0200
Ezequiel Birman ezebir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I found your post in lylypond user list of 25 Sep 2004 regarding horn
 notation and the half stopped glyph.
 
 I am facing the same problem. I've tried inserting an eps file with
 the $\oplus$ glyph, but I can't get it right. Perhaps the BoundigBox
 paramater isn't right.
 
 Another possibility could be to directly use \postscript inside a
 markup.
 
 ¿Did you find a solution?
 
 Regards.

Ezequiel, 

(sending this to the list since it may at best be useful to the
community and at worst spark conversation that may make it useful)

If I remember correctly, back then, Lilypond used the TeX backend, so I
was able to use the \oplus character, and then had to use overrides to
move it around to where I wanted. Now it should be simpler, since any
unicode character can be used. You may have still have to tweak or
override the defaults to put it where you want it or at the size you
want, but you no longer have to play with TeX or postscript to do it.

Something like c2^⊕ should do the trick; it works in my little test
sample (using 2.12.3) without needing any tweaking. 

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Re: [Lilypond] half-stopped horn

[Josiah Boothby]

 Something like c2^⊕ should do the trick; it works in my little test
 sample (using 2.12.3) without needing any tweaking.

In case it's necessary (or at least useful), the circled-plus
character appears to be coded as 2295 in UTF-16.


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Re: scheme function for transposition

[Josiah Boothby]

 I think you have to declare two variables:
 #(define-music-function (parser location trans notes) (ly:music? ly:music?)
 #{
  \transpose c $trans { $notes }
 #})

The problem appears to be that \transpose is expecting a notename, not
a variable, so this has the same problem, and doubled.

Thank you,

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Re: scheme function for transposition

[Josiah Boothby]

 The only solution i know is to use the scheme equivalent of \transpose :
    ly:music-transpose
 But it is a bit harder...

 

 firstNotes = \relative c' { c4 d e f }

 first = #(define-music-function (parser location trans)(ly:music?)
 (let* (
   (trans-note (car (ly:music-property trans 'elements)))
   (trans-pitch (ly:music-property trans-note 'pitch))
   (delta-pitch (ly:pitch-diff trans-pitch (ly:make-pitch -1 0 0
 ;% (display delta-pitch)(newline)
 (ly:music-transpose (ly:music-deep-copy firstNotes) delta-pitch)
 ))

 \score {
   \new Staff  \firstNotes     \new Staff  \first d   \new Staff  \first e
  
 }

 %%%

Thank you, this works well. I'm trying to understand what's going on
in the scheme code. Transposition normally takes the two pitch names
as parameters (e.g., \transpose c es \notes). Is the above code
something flexible enough that it could work with the first of those
being something other than c? (e.g., \transpose f g \notes)

Thanks again,

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scheme function for transposition

[Josiah Boothby]

I'm confused trying to use scheme to create a function. I've tried
several things, but the current function (dysfunction?) and
application looks something like this:

% code snippet
\version 2.12.2

firstNotes = \relative c' { c4 d e f }

first =
#(define-music-function
  (parser location trans)
  (ly:music?)
  #{
\transpose c $trans { \firstNotes }
  #}
)

score {
  \new Staff { \first d }
}
% end code snippet

I get an error for this:

Parsing...
string:2:17: error: syntax error, unexpected MUSIC_IDENTIFIER,
expecting NOTENAME_PITCH or TONICNAME_PITCH
\transpose c
 \lilyvartmpb { \firstNotes }
sample.ly:15:2: error: errors found, ignoring music expression

  \new Staff { \first d }

Any ideas on how to fix this?

Thank you,

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Re: sectional titles above tempo markings?

[Josiah Boothby]

  \tempo 4 = 69 \tempo \markup \dir-column
  {
    \concat { Tenderly, with some rubato ( \fontsize #-2 \general-align #Y 
 #DOWN \note #4 #1  = ca. 66-72) }
    VARIATION I
    \vspace #0
    \combine \fontsize #2 PART ONE \lower #0.7 \override #'(thickness . 1.5) 
 \draw-line #'(16 . 0)
  }

OK, now that I've figured out the \vspace issue (thank you for the
pointer, Francisco!), I have to say this is unfortunately similar
(though more flexible and better looking on the page) to what I was
doing before, which is to say: creating the tempo text with the
metronome mark from scratch, stacking it below the section title.

I guess I was hoping that I could just use the nice-and-easy-to-read

\tempo Slow 4 = 48

approach somewhere in there.

Thank you,

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Re: sectional titles above tempo markings?

[Josiah Boothby]

I get an error with \vspace:

error: unknown escaped string: `\vspace'

Are we both using 2.12?

Thanks,

Josiah

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hi Josiah,

 Using 2.12.2, I'm wondering if I can include some sort of sectional
 titling information above a tempo marking, ideally also with a markup
 below the tempo indication, something like:

 Henry in the Store
 Superfast (4=198)
 (muted)
 [staff with music]

 I happen to be doing *precisely* that kind of thing in my current quartet 
 commission -- here's one example:

  \tempo 4 = 69 \tempo \markup \dir-column
  {
    \concat { Tenderly, with some rubato ( \fontsize #-2 \general-align #Y 
 #DOWN \note #4 #1  = ca. 66-72) }
    VARIATION I
    \vspace #0
    \combine \fontsize #2 PART ONE \lower #0.7 \override #'(thickness . 1.5) 
 \draw-line #'(16 . 0)
  }

 Notes:
    1. \vspace is the standard (Nicholas's?) function for inserting vertical 
 space;
    2. the last element has a manually-built underline (because we don't 
 currently have control over all the properties of Lilypond's \underline); and,
    3. there are *two* \tempo commands (one to set the actual tempo, one to 
 generate the markup).

 Hope this helps!
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sectional titles above tempo markings?

[Josiah Boothby]

Hello,

Using 2.12.2, I'm wondering if I can include some sort of sectional
titling information above a tempo marking, ideally also with a markup
below the tempo indication, something like:

Henry in the Store
Superfast (4=198)
(muted)
[staff with music]

Thank you,

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Re: producing archival scores

[Josiah Boothby]

On 4/5/07, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello everybody, hello Jason,

I would like to add my 2 cents here: though LilyPond syntax evolves
indeed very quickly, you'll always be able to find the version of
LilyPond which was in use when you first typed your score, on
http://lilypond.org/web/install/older-versions or
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/sources/

This is why open-Source gives some guarantees (well, relatively at
least) you won't be able to find with any other proprietary software:


Just to clarify one small thing: I think that it would be nearly
impossible -- or at least extraordinarily difficult -- to compile on a
modern distribution of Linux a sufficiently old version of Lilypond so
that ancient .ly files can be used directly. The nice thing about the
old ly files is that the syntax is usually similar enough that if
convert-ly doesn't work, most of the note-entry should be
straightforward to reuse, leaving organization and tweaking to be done
(for me, that usually takes about half of the time of preparing a
score, so that's not so bad).

--Josiah


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Re: blank paper - removing the clef 2.8.4 Solved?

[Josiah Boothby]

Additionally, there is an entry for blank staff paper in the LSR.

On 6/4/06, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:
 Why doesn't this remove the clef sign?  2.8.4, 2.8.3

 #(set-global-staff-size 24)

 \layout{ indent = 0\in }
 emptymusic = {
  \repeat unfold 9 % Change this for more lines.
  { s1\break }
 }
 \new Score \with {
  \override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
  defaultBarType = #
  \remove Bar_number_engraver
  \remove Clef_engraver
 } 
  \new Staff \emptymusic
 

At least this works:

\version 2.8.4

#(set-global-staff-size 24)

\layout{ indent = 0\in }
emptymusic = {
  \repeat unfold 9 % Change this for more lines.
  { s1\break }
}
\new Score \with {
  \override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
  defaultBarType = #
  \remove Bar_number_engraver
} 
  \new Staff \with { \remove Clef_engraver } \emptymusic
 

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emacs lilypond-mode, GUB?

[Josiah Boothby]

when installing with the GUB, how do I use the emacs mode?

Based on the instructions from the compilation guide, I tried creating
a folder in my .emacs folder called site-lisp (so ~/.emacs/site-lisp)
and copied all of the files from
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ into it, and created a
file, ~/.emacs.el, with the
line (setq load-path (append (list (expand-file-name
~/.emacs/site-lisp)) load-path)) in it.

Am I missing something?

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Re: Which frontend?

[Josiah Boothby]

I use an unoriginal combination of xterm, emacs, and xpdf. When I'm
working on a longer project, I can set up xpdf so that it's always
visible and is updated after I've run lilypond:

$ emacs -nw whatever.ly (C-a C-s C-z to save and hide the editor)

$ lilypond whatever.ly

$ xpdf -z 100 -remote myServer whatever.pdf 

$ fg

then after that, all i have to do is

$ lilypond whatever.ly  xpdf -remote myServer whatever.pdf  fg

which, after the first time can just be a matter of hitting the up
key followed by the enter key. I've found that this is, for me, the
fastest way to go. I'm sure there's a more efficient way of doing what
I've just demonstrated, but I haven't figured it out yet.

One of the advantages of this is that if I'm working remotely, I don't
have to change my environment (well, editor), and the only thing I
have to do differently is upload the resultant pdf to my web server
and view through a browser.

If I'm in KDE, I generally like Kate. For lilypond-book projects, I
have set Kile up to make things easy. I've never really liked jEdit,
so the advantages of the Lilypond tool are lost on me. For me, GUI
frontends make things take longer than just starting with an editor.

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Re: Which frontend?

[Josiah Boothby]

$ emacs -nw whatever.ly (C-a C-s C-z to save and hide the editor)


excuse me, that's C-x C-s to save and C-z to hide.
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Kile and Lilypond-Book Howto

[Josiah Boothby]

On 5/1/06, Lothar Schmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... For lilypond-book projects, I
 have set Kile up to make things easy. ...

 How did you set up Kile? I tried to configure it to produce output with
lilypond, but gave up after two hours in frustration. A small Howto would be
really great!




Go to Settings - Configure Kile... - Build

There are two build tools you will have to modify, LaTeX and DVItoPS,
and two that you will have to create. It is worth noting that this
will be set up so that your lilypond-book files will use the extension
.lytex rather than .tex. Among other things, this will protect your
source file from being overwritten in the compile process.

First select LaTeX and click on the button that says New Config
Name it lilypond-book. In the text box for Options:, enter:

%S.tex

go to the Advanced tab, make sure that the Type is Run Outside of
Kile, the Class is LaTeX, the target extension is dvi.

Next, select DVItoPS and click on the button that says New Config...
and name it lilypond-book. Change the options to:

-o -h '%S.psfonts' -Ppdf '%S.dvi'

Go to the Advanced tab, make sure that the Type is Run Outside of
Kile, the Class is Convert, the source extension is dvi, the
target extension is psfonts.

So far, in both of these examples, I have left some defaults alone. If
this is unclear, I can elaborate. In any event, next we have to create
a couple tools. So click on the button New Tool... and when prompted
for a name, call it Lilypond-Book. The next window that comes up
asks about default behavior. Choose LaTeX or something similar.

Click on the New Config... button, and call it lilypond-book. For
command, enter lilypond-book, and for options:

--psfonts '%S.lytex'

Go to the advanced tab. Type: Run Outside of Kile, Class: Compile,
Source Extension: lytex.

Now to create the final tool to put it all together. Click on the New
Tool... button, name this something like QuickLilypondBook, and at
the Behavior screen, select QuickBuild. Check the Advanced tab to make
sure that the Type is Run Sequence of Tools and Class is Sequence.

Under the General tab, click on the box next to Tool: to select
Lilypond-Book, then for Configuration: select lilypond-book, and then
click on Add. You should now see that Lilypond-Book (lilypond-book)
has been added to the list.

Again, for Tool: select LaTeX, and for Configuration: select
lilypond-book, then click on Add. You should see LaTeX
(lilypond-book) added to the list.

Since by now you probably get the process, I will revert to shorthand.
Tool: DVItoPS, Configuration: lilypond-book, Add. Tool: PStoPDF, Add.
Tool: ViewPDF, Add. Note that there is no need to change the
configuration for PStoPDF or ViewPDF.

Also note that if you don't care to convert the PS to PDF, you can
omit this step and add ViewPS instead.

Go to the Menu. Add tool to Build menu: Quick. Change the icon if you
like, and click on OK. Go to

Settings - Configure Toolbars...

select the Build toolbar, and under Available Actions, scroll down
until you find QuickLilypondBook, select and drag over to Current
Actions next to QuickBuild. Click the OK button.

Test. Remember that QuickLilypondBook is expecting a .lytex file. If
it doesn't work, please ask.

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Re: Kile and Lilypond-Book Howto

[Josiah Boothby]

If anyone can figure out how to set up context highlighting, that
would probably be the only thing missing to this. It's not necessary,
but I know that some people like to have it.

Josiah
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Re: UTF-8 encoding problems

[Josiah Boothby]

IOn 4/22/06, Graydon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 04:15:35PM -0700, jimmy2 scripsit:
  Here is an example, e with accent aigue: é.  It appears as it is
  supposed to in my usual editors (pico, nedit).  On the other hand, in
  a working example with German accents which I downloaded from
  lilypond, the special characters don't look like what they are
  supposed to represent in these editors.  I need to figure out how to
  generate the characters I want in the correct encoding.  Do you have
  any suggestions?

 Are you sure you're viewing them in a console which is capable of
 handling the necessary glyphs?  (konsole, from KDE, certainly is, but I
 can't speak to much else.)


It may also be necessary to check that the console-based editors are
set up to use UTF-8. Emacs, for instance, is not unicode aware in the
default Debian package, so other things have to be installed. I seem
to recall something coming up on this list describing how to enable
UTF-8 in vim... I think this was about a year ago. It will also be
necessary to use a terminal emulator that supports UTF-8 (and is using
a unicode font).

It's at times like these that I miss having the TeX capabilities at my
disposal...
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Re: Score identifier not working in book block

[Josiah Boothby]

just a hunch, try putting a space between \relative c' and the bracket, so:

\relative c' {

what you have is

\relative c'{

--josiah

On 4/23/06, Michael Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Graham Percival wrote:
 
  The music needs to be in an explicit {}.
  \book {
{
  \myscore
}
  }
 
  Cheers,
  - Graham
 Thanks for the answer, but I still can't get it to work.
 When I try that way I get an syntax error, unexpected '{',
 which points out the second { in the \book.

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Re: What to use to edit output after the fact?

[Josiah Boothby]

On 4/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Previously:
 For those who are having trouble getting Lilypond files to work with
 Illustrator or other graphics programs, I would be curious to know if the
 following works as I just tried it on my system and the file opens fine.
 Using ghost script use the following command:
 
 gs -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=epswrite -sOutputFile=foo.eps foo.ps

 I downloaded and compiled ghostscript on my Mac (OS X 10.3.9), and that 
 command works.  Also, someone mentioned ps2ps which is a script which does 
 almost exactly the same thing as this command.  (The difference being 
 pswrite instead of epswrite.)

 Interesting that the converted files are typically a tenth of the size of the 
 originals!  Also, the Music engraving by Lilypond... quote is removed from 
 the converted file...

 Doug

When I tried it (Gentoo Linux, Lilypond 2.8.1 GUB, GNU Ghostscript
8.16), I noticed that certain text elements were missing, including
the time signature. One strange omission was the to Coda, followed
by a coda sign: the words to Coda were missing, but the coda sign
itself was not. Same markup line and all. The header info (title,
composer) showed up, so it stands to reason that GS is finding the
Century Schoolbook font. This is a bit strange.

Regarding the bit about file size: the eps file doesn't seem to
include certain info, such as paper size; only the stuff about what
gets printed gets in. Perhaps someone who knows more about postscript
should talk about this since I don't really know what I'm talking
about...

Josiah
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Re: Slurs in 2.8

[Josiah Boothby]

On 4/20/06, Artur Rataj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone on this list any idea why the slurs are as I described?

Try sending this to the bugs list. You might also try providing a
visual example of what it looks like (you can create a .png, for
instance). Also, please include version and operating system
information -- I know you mentioned 2.8, but that could be 2.8.0 or
2.8.1, and the matter of what operating system you're running could be
useful information.

If what you've found is a bug, this list is not the right place to
discuss it. If you want a workaround, we might be able to help with a
little more information.

Josiah
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Re: multi \transpose in old crook- trumpet parts - a solution

[Josiah Boothby]

 Thanks.  I just looked at

 8.2.8 Different editions from one source

 When I have time I'll figure \tag out. Right now looking the doc above
 it isn't obvious how I would apply this to make transposition any easier
 than it already is for me.  I know that if I can understand objects
 (which I do) that I can figure out \tag but the understanding hasn't
 come yet.

Try looking at section 3.3, the string quartet example. This is a fine
example of how to use \tag, and it shouldn't be too hard to apply
what's in it to your situation.

When I have done similar things in the past, I usually have a set of
files that contain the notes to each part, usually in the easiest
possible manner from what's written in the original (so, in your
example, I would just create a different variable for each
transposition section, but in the same file), then I have a second set
of files for the parts and scores. Where this isn't as clean as using
\tag, I generally find it easier to nagivate in several smaller files
than one large file.

If all you're doing is a single part, this is overkill. Using \tag is
by far the easier way.

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Re: Uninstall

[josiah boothby]

It would be much easier to help you if we knew what operating system
(Windows, OSX, or what Linux or BSD) you've tried to install Lilypond
in. It would also help if we knew what installer you used.

Josiah

On 4/13/06, K. Vellinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Something went wrong with the installation of Lilypond.
 How can I uninstall and remove the programm
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Re: Uninstall

[josiah boothby]

...it would also be useful to know what the problem seems to be.

Josiah

On 4/13/06, josiah boothby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be much easier to help you if we knew what operating system
 (Windows, OSX, or what Linux or BSD) you've tried to install Lilypond
 in. It would also help if we knew what installer you used.

 Josiah

 On 4/13/06, K. Vellinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Mr/Mrs,
 
  Something went wrong with the installation of Lilypond.
  How can I uninstall and remove the programm
  from my computer?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Uninstall

[josiah boothby]

Have you read the tutorial? A good place to start is here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/

Looking over the tutorial may help you fill those empty documents, or
at least help you get an idea as to what to do with them.

As another general piece of advice, reply all is better than
reply, because this way the whole list can jump in and help if I'm
unable to do so.

Did you download the installer for Lilypond version 2.8.1?

Josiah

On 4/13/06, Klaas Vellinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for answering my question.
 I'm running OS 10.4.6.
 I don't know what type of installer  is used.

. . .
 I can't open the programm. Just empty documents.

 K. Vellinga
 Op 13-apr-2006, om 19:22 heeft josiah boothby het volgende geschreven:

  ...it would also be useful to know what the problem seems to be.
 
  Josiah
 
  On 4/13/06, josiah boothby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would be much easier to help you if we knew what operating system
  (Windows, OSX, or what Linux or BSD) you've tried to install Lilypond
  in. It would also help if we knew what installer you used.
 
  Josiah
 
  On 4/13/06, K. Vellinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Something went wrong with the installation of Lilypond.
  How can I uninstall and remove the programm
  from my computer?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Old-style F clef?

[josiah boothby]

I also seem to recall that having custom graphics made is possible and
is not a terribly expensive sponsorship. You would have to inquire as
to the price and likelihood of implementation, though, if this is
something that interests you.

Josiah

On 4/11/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To see a list of all symbols available in the LilyPond font,
 check appendix C.4 of the manual. As you can see, this
 kind of clef isn't available in LilyPond for the moment.
 (The old-style clefs available in LilyPond are much older
 than the one you want :-) )

   /Mats

 Geoff Horton wrote:

 Can LilyPond engrave an old-style F clef, such as the one in this
 Wikipedia article?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clef#The_F_clef
 
 It doesn't look like it from 7.7.4 in the manual, but I thought I
 might be missing something.
 
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Re: Installing 2.8 after many other releases

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Honestly, I think this is the problem:

 I am afraid to lose the lilypond-snapshot 2.4.1 and remain with no
 working lilypond, which has become essential to me.

My advice would be to uninstall this with apt-get, and try the GUB
installer. Deleting the binaries doesn't uninstall the program.

Josiah

On 4/12/06, Luise Marion Frenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

   I just don't know why in a root shell I get
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lilypond -v
   bash: /usr/bin/lilypond: No such file or directory
  
   but it does not matter.
  
  Hmm, it seems your system needs a bit of a clean! I'm glad to see it's
  working though.
 
  If you were having trouble with the lilypond executable, you may also
  run into the same trouble with the other scripts, such as convert-ly and
  lilypond-book. Try, for example, 'convert-ly --version' and 'which -a
  convert-ly' and see what happens. If you need any advice, please ask!

 I think I need a new Linux, but I cannot change this on my own. To have
 a Debian based Linux that mixed from the beginning stable and testing
 proved to be a very bad idea. I try to keep it as clean as possible with
 little success.

 You were right, and I had remaining convert-ly, lilypond-book and
 lilypond-latex from 2.4.0. Removing the old ones and installing again
 2.8.1 I now have:
 convert-ly : works only in a root shell, where it is version 2.8.1 and
 works as expected. In a user shell it gives:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ convert-ly --version
 bash: /usr/bin/convert-ly: No such file or directory

 lilypond-book : works in root shell and user shell, version 2.8.1

 lilypond: works in user shell but not in root shell, where it gives the
 same error as with convert-ly

 Well, I can live with this very well, and these problems do not seem
 Lilypond related.

 I am happy for coming so far, and thank you for it.

 Luise.

 
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Re: Installing 2.8 after many other releases

[josiah boothby]

so, for instance /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin if the new is in
/usr/local/bin and the old is in /usr/bin?

but with the old binaries deleted, is the old installation still salvageable?

On 4/12/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting josiah boothby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Honestly, I think this is the problem:
 
  I am afraid to lose the lilypond-snapshot 2.4.1 and remain with no
  working lilypond, which has become essential to me.
 
  My advice would be to uninstall this with apt-get, and try the GUB
  installer. Deleting the binaries doesn't uninstall the program.


 As long as you make sure that the new LilyPond installation is
 placed in a directory that is before the old installation in the $PATH
 environment variable, there should be no need to remove
 the old version.

   /Mats


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Re: missing something like afterAcciaccatura

[josiah boothby]

I seem to recall a question like mine coming up recently, but I can't
figure out how to apply the answers here: is there a way do this with
scheme so that this much typing could be avoided?

Josiah

On 4/9/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You have to set the corresponding property manually,

 \afterGrace d1 {\once \override Stem #'stroke-style = #grace c8 }

/Mats

 Quoting Roland Goretzki [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi list,
 
  in this documentation for 2.8 I found the \afterGrace command.
  Just that I was looking for, but for acciaccatura.
 
  But this I couldn'd find.
  Or is ist wrong, to take a \afterAcciaccatura?
  In a song score, which I'm typing in, there does it exist ...
 
  Can anybody help me, please?
 
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Re: stereo pan

[josiah boothby]

if you used tags or \book to create two separate midi files, could you
either tell timidity to play one with the left channel and the other
with the right? or would you have to take a further step and combine
them into a third, stereo midi file?

On 4/7/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You will probably need some other MIDI tool to postprocess the output
 of LilyPond. LilyPond itself does not have any such support
 builtin, as far as I know.

   /Mats

 Quoting Andreas Rittershofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I'm using LilyPond and Timidity. Now I want to hear some notes on the
  left stereo channel and others on the right stereo channel.
 
  I' writing notes for percussion and drumset, sometimes with two voices,
  sometimes with two staffs each with one or two drumvoices.
 
  How to separate the voices or staffs in the two stereo channels?
 
  For example I have a piece for conga and djembe and I want to hear the
  djembe on the left and the conga on the right.
 
  Is this possible with LilyPond and Timidity and if yes, how?
 
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Re: SciTE and Lilypond

[D Josiah Boothby]

It shouldn't be hard to look over the SciTE properties file for TeX/LaTeX 
filetypes and edit that to be lilypond compatible. I've started a couple 
times, but since I keep going back to Emacs, I've never really seen it to 
be worth my while. :)


Josiah

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, RDNewman wrote:



At the  SciTE web site , there seems to be a pretty cool source code editor
that can be set up to auto compile if the right commands are given.  It
needs a lexer to support Lilypond though.

I'm fairly new to Lilypond and am using it to support my efforts to learn
the guitar.

Is there a recommended editor (I'm on Windows here, or I'd consider Kate or
something similar) that is already recognizes .ly files for syntax
highlighting and can handle make style compilations?

Thanks much.

Kind regards,
Richard Newman
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Re: help! need an example

[D Josiah Boothby]

There are two parts to my response: I will try to give you an outline that 
Should Work, then I will suggest that when you finally *do* finish it, you 
submit what you have to the Lilypond Snippet Repository (LSR) which can be 
found here: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/


% example code begins
\version 2.6.6 %if you're using a different version, change this

% first, i set up a few variables: one or two that include information 
% useful for all voices or staves, and then one for each voice


global = {
  % what's your key? time signature? i also sometimes use this variable
  % with skips to draw barlines and, if relevant, rehearsal marks.
}

soprano = \relative c'' {
  % insert note information for the soprano voice here
}

alto = \relative c'' {
  % insert note information for the alto voice here
}

tenor = \relative c' {
  % insert note information for the tenor voice here
}

bass = \relative c {
  % insert note information for the bass voice here.
  % also, if you have the octaves in the bass, you will have to use
  % chord syntax, so something like f f'4, or whatever it is.
  % if you find this chord syntax a little confusing when combined with
  % the \relative environment, try it until it works. compiling a score
  % doesn't take much time.
}

% now i start putting things together. since i personally prefer to only 
% deal with staves, not voices, in the \score block, i create a couple

% more variables

topLine = {
  \clef treble
  
\soprano
\\
\alto
  
}

bottomLine = {
  \clef bass
  
\tenor
\\
\bass
  
}

% now i put things together in the score block

\score {
  \context PianoStaff 
\context Staff = upper {
   \global \topLine 
}
\context Staff = lower {
   \global \bottomLine 
}
  
}

% end of example

I have not tested this example, so there may be spelling errors in funny 
places, or I may have omitted points. I could have saved myself a 
significant amount of time by just giving you exactly what you asked of us 
(to notate, for you, the progression in the picture); however, if I did, I 
doubt that would have helped you understand Lilypond usage. Because the 
matter of putting things together in a logical fashion isn't necessarily 
something that is easy to figure out from reading the manual, I decided to 
give you an outline of how to put it all together. Hopefully it is 
helpful, and like I said at the beginning, I would encourage you to submit 
your final example to the LSR so that others are able to benefit from 
this.


By the way, there are a couple things you might look at: in the examples 
page in the documentation, the fugue for three voices was immensely 
helpful to me when I had to do something similar when I first started 
using Lilypond. Also, there are some templates in the main documentation 
that are quite useful.


Good luck.


On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, jango wrote:



I'm trying to copy music using lilypond, even though I read half of the
manual I don't understand ways of putting notes in a correct sequence :)  i
have a piece of music, it's really short (like 12 notes). I want to ask
somebody help me and explain how the notes sequence should look like.

here is the piece pf music:
http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled7et2.jpg

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Re: help! need an example

[D Josiah Boothby]

actually, if you boiled it down to a measure or two, and called it 
something like chorale with lyrics, it would probably be quite useful.


On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, jango wrote:



i will definitly do that, though i don't think that music will be very useful
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Re: stuck with alto\bass notes

[D Josiah Boothby]

Two things you might want to read in the manual, and I will assume you're 
using version 2.6:


First, as an attempt to answer your question, you might find sections 2.10 
(Combining notes into chords) and 2.16 (Single staff polyphony) useful. 
Also, section 6.6 is devoted to a more thorough discussion on polyphony 
and may have some details you might find relevant.


Second, you might want to take a look at section 2.3 (More about pitches), 
and look at how notes should be indicated, even when using a key 
signature. In particular, this may be helpful, for instance, for the first 
couple notes in the soprano voice.


Josiah

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, jango wrote:




why not try something, compile it, and if you don't like the results,
either change octaves (using , or ') or use the --png option and show us
a picture of what's wrong. honestly, i'm not entirely sure what you're
asking.


sorry, i will try to clarify that =)

I have that piece of music.
http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled7et2.jpg

I've succesefully entered the soprano and tenor note sequence and got
something like that:
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled9cw.jpg

Now I want to enter the note sequence for alto (red notes on the picture)

The problem is that I cannot find the way (i tried adding ' ) to put these
notes on the stave.

So basically I'm asking what letter sequence ( and /relative key)  would
the represent the first red note?

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Re: want blank music for concert/theatre organ printed landscape

[D Josiah Boothby]

If you go to the Lilypond Snippet Repository (LSR), do a search for blank 
manuscript paper (staff paper, something like that). There is an expample 
there of how to do most of the tings you are asking about, and I think 
you've figured out everything else (namely, how to make a landscape page).


I seem to recall there being a link to the LSR somewhere in the lilypond 
website (I think that if you follow the Documentation link on the top of 
the main page, you will find it), but I don't have the link immediately 
available.


Good luck,

Josiah

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone created a template for printing blank paper for concert/theatre pipe 
organ?

Ideally three systems per page, but two might be more reasonable since I need 
room to enter registrations. I want to reduce symphonic music to 
concert/theatre organ and would like to have the music paper printed landscape 
for transcription before entering the finished product into LilyPond. Using 
WinXP 2.7.36, all I am getting is one system in Portrait, despite the 
'landscape added according to the Tutorial/Tips.

TIA!

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Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)

[D Josiah Boothby]

Is it possible that if fontforge was compiled without support for svg that 
this sort of problem might exist? If that is the case, then it might be a 
packaging issue.


Josiah

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Pedro Kröger wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pedro Kröger) writes:



Hi,

Some time ago I asked [1] about opening lilypond's svg files in
inkscape. The tip in that thread worked but now inkscape is again
showing boxes instead of note heads. But the emmentaler font (all of
them) is in ~/.fonts, I've re-run fc-cache and inkscape is definatelly
finding it (I can see it in the font menu). I'm mising something?





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Re: Defining shortcuts for scheme code

[D Josiah Boothby]

This would be particularly useful if you had a file containing a number of 
your shortcuts, so all you would have to do is something like this:


\include shortcutsFile.ly

then call whatever shortcut(s) you need, when you need them.

Josiah

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Thies Albrecht wrote:


Hi everybody!

To prevent having to use extensive scheme code inside my score I prefer to 
define shortcuts for often used code snippets, e.g. when setting ottavation 
on and off.


In the following code example Point'n'click is turned off also IMHO I have 
only defined the shortcut without using it. Now I wonder if my way of 
defining shortcuts is okay or if I've misunderstood the documentation on 
that.


Example:


\version 2.7.34

noPnC = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)

\relative c'' {c1}

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Re: faster lilypond rendering

[D Josiah Boothby]

I produce a 70 pages conductor's score in less than half an hour (and 
this is a *very* conservative estimate) on a two years old PC. True, it 
has 2GB of memory, but other than that, it is to be considered a fairly 
old beast by today's standards.


...

And it takes forever on my 700Mhz PII!  So, cutting out processing of 
sections of music is of little use.  I'm really looking for faster 
rendering in general... The final phase of rendering a 28 page 
conductor's score takes hours.  This is much more than twice as long as 
other scores that are approximately half the length.


...

FWIW, this could be caused by or at least exacerbated by poor memory 
usage in the conversion phase.  If the PS to PDF conversion loads the 
whole document into memory at once, this could all be the result of 
swap thrashing.


A two-year-old PC with 2G ram is not going to be at all equivalent to a 
700 Mhz PII, no matter how much ram is being used. As suggested, the small 
amount of memory is probably the culprit. It may be helpful to look 
through the manual or the list archives for how to disable the 
point-and-click feature, which adds information to almost all of the 
symbols. I seem to recall a thread or three discussing this, and if you 
are able to disable the point-and-click, you will probably get faster 
ps-pdf conversion (and faster processing in general).


Josiah


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Re: MIDI Input/Invoke

[D Josiah Boothby]

Not being a windows user, I can't really help you with the matter of 
invocation. However, on the matter of midi2ly and translating midi files 
to lilypond, there has been considerable discussion on this list. 
Regarding midi2ly:


I need to know everything there is to turn a MIDI file into a Lilypond 
file.


This is something that I, also have found confusing. Part of the problem 
is that midi is a glorified piano roll punch card. Midi is very badly 
suited to music notation, since it's designed -- specifically -- to be a 
set of instructions for the production of sound. Translating this to the 
(relative) simplicity of typography is difficult. I have personally never 
gotten a midi file adequately translated. As mentioned by Graham, many 
people --including me -- find that starting from scratch is probably 
easier than dealing with translation software (such as midi2ly).


However, if you have a substantial body of work, and typing it from 
scratch would be far too time consuming, I would encourage you to evaluate 
MusicXML. I think Recordare has plugins or something of that nature that 
allow Sibelius to output MusicXML. It is probably much easier to go from 
MusicXML to Lilypond than from Midi to Lilypond. Further, there are two 
tools available for this job, both of which seem to have generated 
positive results. I have never used them, but I think they're called 
musicxml2ly and xml2ly. I'm not positive, so search the archive for 
MusicXML.


Good luck,

Josiah


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Re: MIDI Input/Invoke

[D Josiah Boothby]

I think Recordare has plugins or something of that nature that allow Sibelius 
to output MusicXML.


Sorry, I meant to dig up the link and include that before sending. Here it 
is: http://store.recordare.com/dolet3sib.html


I've never used this, so I can't verify its quality. If you go this way, I 
hope it works.


Josiah


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Re: etf2ly

[D Josiah Boothby]

Or should I just re-notate the whole thing?


I know that this is just a way for me to admit to being a bit of a 
masochist, but I generally find it easier (and just as time consuming) to 
start over. I've tried using the lily code that Rosegarden, NoteEdit, and 
Denemo produce, but I spend so much time correcting code -- sometimes only 
so that it looks a particular way that makes it easier for me to read, 
sometimes because I don't like the way the programs organize everything -- 
that I usually give up and start typing from scratch.


In my experience, things only get more complicated when dealing with a 
translator. I have not had good experiences with trying to turn midi files 
into lily source, though it's been long enough that the tools that perform 
that function are probably more mature. Granted, my experience is limited. 
I'm too lazy: I'd rather just type out a new score than deal with mucking 
out the old.


I don't know. The way I've answered your question sounds suspiciously like 
the host of editor questions that have been filling up the list lately. I 
suppose the best cure for this may be following the advice Mats gave me 
for something totally unrelated about a year or so ago: Try it. Doing it 
Josiah's way is probably not the best way to do it.






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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

[D Josiah Boothby]

There were a few mentioned above. Someone recently pointed out that Emacs 
is available for Windows, and (if you prefer) so is Vim (both are easy to 
find with google).


In my former windows days, I used NoteTab:
http://www.notetab.com/

My brother, who actually makes money writing code, likes metapad:
http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/

Someone else above mentioned Notepad++:
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

Someone else also mentioned Scintilla/SciTE:
http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTE.html

Hope this is helpful,

Josiah


On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Paul Scott wrote:

Besides the several editors commonly used by LilyPond people mentioned
on this list there are several nice shareware editors which really are
text editors like EditPad.


Several nice text editors for Windows?  Can you name some of the others?

Thanks.

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Re: newbie:poor quality output

[D Josiah Boothby]

Are you referring to printed output or screen display of the pdf?

Different PDF viewers and ghostscript libraries seem to produce different 
results on screen, sometimes in some fairly problematic ways. I have seen 
no problems when I've printed to paper, however.


Josiah

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, debian wrote:


Please,

I have just started using Lilypond (2.4.5) on a debian sarge system
and I am getting on reasonably well with the syntax.

But, the quality of my pdf files is very poor.  Notes and staff lines
etc look ugly.  Probably this is a font problem, but I do not know how
to proceed.

Thanks

Joe


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Re: User Experience Engineering

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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Joshua Koo wrote:

I have no say in Lilypond development, but I do have similar thoughts I
would like to share (well as maybe a more bias windows user).


It seems to me that part of the issue that's at play in this thread is a 
matter of porting software from a Unix-based environment to Windows. 
Unix/Linux philosophy is very accepting of finding whatever editor works 
best for the user for the given application (in this case, creating 
lilypond files), where the Windows philosophy seems to be that if it 
doesn't automatically work with whatever is already installed, then it 
must be broken. If, as has already been pointed out, there were (more) 
people helping develop lilypond for Windows, perhaps this would be less of 
an issue. But on the subject of editors, I know one programmer who likes 
using notepad for coding (but that's only because he does a lot of work on 
other people's computers without knowing if they have his favorite editor 
available already). There are dozens of programmers editors available for 
Windows. I remember liking Note-Tab back when I was still on Windows, but 
I don't know if (a) it still exists, or (b) if it's any good for lilypond.



...

If after all the purpose of lilypond is produce beautiful scores, why 
cant the input be visual? I dont have the answer. For me, if I wanted to 
compose, in my mind would be thinking where the notes on the score for 
entry, rather than what are the pitch names.


Not being the sort who can compose at a computer (I'm a pen(cil) and paper 
man), I can't really understand this sentiment. I can respect it in 
others, but I can't understand it. Typesetting software, in my opinion, is 
not the best environment for composing; it is, however, an ideal 
environment for taking something that's already composed and making it 
look professional. I'm very comfortable using Finale, at least as 
comfortable as I am with Lilypond. I still can't compose in it, in spite 
of the fact that it is a (more) visually-based entry system.


For example, take 3d modelling/rendering software. I do appreciate the 
beauty of pov-ray rendered images, but it seems to me very painstaking 
to type the syntax, coordinates and everything just to generate each 
image. Could you imagine how if its used create a 3d movie? But I 
believe there are a couple of good frontends for it. If you have seen 
any relatively experienced user work in 3ds max (or maya, lightwave, 
blender3d..), its really like the mouse becomes a hand in the computer, 
and moulding 3d models from blocks like how pots are moulded from clay.


Again, this reminds me of the Unix-ish software philosophy: different 
tools for different jobs. Pov-Ray is not ideal for all sorts of image 
work, and is certainly not the best tool for every user. It is a very 
powerful tool in the hands of someone for whom it makes sense and who will 
use it for its intended purposes.



...
Till then, take your pick on the wide choices of score setting software, 
and even if still chose lilypond at the end, you can find the converters 
(abc, midi,musicxml, nwc.. ) or many others which can produce lilypond 
files (lilypad, gscore, denemo, noteedit, rosegarden, harmony 
assistance..), and issnt that the unix philosophy?


Perhaps. I've found that I have to correct a lot when I import from 
Rosegarden, and that I end up saving considerable time if I just go from 
beginning to end in whatever editor I happen to be using that day. LSR and 
the templates in the manual are more useful to me than any graphical entry 
system could be. But hitting the point of unix philosophy again, you're 
right on. Additionally, it's a matter of choice. I used the KDE Advanced 
Text Editor last week because I was in KDE and it was convenient. A couple 
weeks ago, I was using Emacs because I was editing a score that resided on 
my home computer, but I was at my parents' house. I hear jEdit with 
lilyTool is quite useful, and this is available for any OS that can use 
java 1.5.


Josiah


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Re: Ubuntu Problem

[D Josiah Boothby]

There are two things that this reminds me of. Did you include the entire 
line, including the deb at the beginning? Did you run apt-get update (or 
the synaptic equivalent)?


Josiah

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, S L Raymond wrote:


after adding that line, I get the following error when running synaptic:

W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
breezy-backports/universe Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
breezy-backports/multiverse Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
breezy-backports/universe Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
breezy-backports/multiverse Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)

On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:37 +0100, Gauvain Pocentek wrote:

Hi,

LilyPond 2.6 is available on the backports repository.
Add this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file:

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted
universe multiverse

There's a non-solved-but-known-bug on the lily package. You need to
install tetex-bin to avoid troubles.

Gauvain


S L Raymond wrote:


I'm running version 2.2 in Ubuntu Breezy Badger, and Synaptic tells me
2.2 is the latest, when it's clear that 2.6 is the current stable.

Any Debian/Ubuntu gurus care to tell me what steps to take to manually
upgrade?  I'm stuck with a version that still notates maj7 chords as M
chords, so I need to get out of 2.2 as quickly as possible (I've got
deadlines).

Thanks in advance.


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half-stop sign

[D Josiah Boothby]

how much to sponser the addition of a half-stop sign (similar to the 
mathematical circled plus) to the feta font? or is it just easier to try 
to use a text markup to put it in?


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Re: A few questions

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Jannik Jeppesen wrote:

Hi... is there really no one who ca?n help me with this. Please...?
 I have a few questions.


As a general piece of advice that unfortunately not very helpful with any 
of the questions that you asked, splitting up your questions is a very 
good idea. Along with this, instead of an email subject reading A few 
questions or I have a question or Lilypond is confusing, a subject 
that directly pertains to the question at hand would help the community in 
a number of ways. Most helful to yourself in the sense that those of us 
who might know enough about midi (for instance) could help you with a 
midi-related question; but also helpful to other users who might have the 
same question, but who have not (yet) asked the community.


Good luck. I think you'll find that if you stick with Lilypond, the 
quality of output alone is very rewarding, but the way it all works -- 
text based entry, so having a generally logical organization system -- 
saves time and makes one wonder why one ever used Finale or Sibelius 
before.


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Re: A few questions

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Jannik Jeppesen wrote:
Is it possible to Make all the bars exact the same size? It does not look 
good that the bars does not stand exactly above each other

Any Ideas (or just a link to the manual:-))


If you search through the mailing list archives, you will find extensive 
discussion on this matter.


Josiah


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Re: switching to lilypond from finale

[D Josiah Boothby]

You might try downloading it from its sourceforge page. I seem to recall 
doing that once when the jEdit servers were down and I couldn't download 
the plugins through jEdit.


Josiah

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, David Rogers wrote:



On 16-Dec-2005, at 3:38 PM, Bertalan Fodor wrote:


You need java 5.0 (may not be available for your os - sorry)

Bert



I downloaded and installed Apple's version of Java 5.0 - but nothing changed 
for jEdit. Maybe I'm missing a step in the process.


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Re: coda placement problem

[D Josiah Boothby]

have you tried overriding with #'padding instead of #'extra-offset?

josiah

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Kenneth Teh wrote:


I'm having trouble placing the coda symbol.  The
closest I've come to what I want is reproduced below.

g2 c,2 | \mark \markup { \small \musicglyph
#scripts.coda }  % mark jump point
r8 g'8 af8[ g8] ef4 d4 |
c1~ |
c1
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark
#'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark
#'self-alignment-X = #right
\mark \markup { \small { D.S. al Coda } }
\break

% coda

%\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset =
#'(-3.0 . 3.0)
r8^\markup { \raise #3.0 {\huge { \musicglyph
#scripts.coda } } }
g'8 af8[ g8] ef4 d4 |
r8 g8 af8[ g8] ef4 d4 |
r8 g8 af8[ g8] ef4 d4 |

which I gleaned from reading your archives.  The
problem is that the \raise does not produce an effect.
 If I rewrite the first 2 lines of the coda section
as

\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset =
#'(-3.0 . 3.0)
r8 \mark \markup { \huge { \musicglyph
#scripts.coda } }

then, the D.S. al Coda string in the previous bar is
affected, not the coda symbol.

I've also tried attaching the huge coda to the bar
line, but this wipes out the D.S. al Coda string.
I've read you cannot stack 2 rehearsal marks.

I prefer the rehearsal mark to a straight text markup
because I am scoring something for multiple
instruments.  I write the same rehearsal mark for each
instrument so that when I generate the parts, the
codas are reproduced for each part, but in the combo
score, I see only 1 coda.

A final comment:  Note that I add a break just before
the coda.  This is because I want the coda section to
start on a new line.  There is a small coda in an
earlier bar to mark the jump point.  What would
really be nice is to put the huge coda right above
the clef at the beginning of the line so that the coda
section is clearly marked.

I'm running Lilypond 2.6.4 on a Mac OS X machine.
Btw, it's a great application.  I discovered it about
2 weeks ago and have been spending my evenings playing
with the software.  Great fun!
I write software for a living myself and it's a really
nice piece of work!!

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Re: triplets

[D Josiah Boothby]

I believe that What you're looking for is \compressMusic. Apparently, it 
works just like \times, but doesn't show the tuplet brackets. I haven't 
used it, so I don't know. It also might be new to 2.7, since I can't seem 
to find any mention of it in the manual (2.6 or 2.7).


I did find some mention of it in the archives (but only because I knew 
what it would be called), here:


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-10/msg00041.html

If you would like to be able to help us help you better, it would probably 
be a good idea to let us know what version you're using. This could be 
relevent information here, and is usually relevent to most questions on 
this list.


Josiah

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, jutta wrote:


Hi,
I would like to switch the figures 3 above the triplets off, but only from
the second measure on. Is there anybody who can just mal me the code?
Thanks
Jutta

{
\time 3/4
\key g \major


 { \times 2/3 { b''8 [b' g']}
\times 2/3 { b''8 [b' g']}
\times 2/3 { b''8 [b' g']} } \\
{ e2. } 

 { \times 2/3 { b''8 [b' g']}
\times 2/3 { a''8 [b' g']}
\times 2/3 { g''8 [b' g']} } \\
{ e2. } 
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Re: Presentation and first doubt

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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Pedro Mart?nez wrote:


Hello comunity,

At first place I would like to present myself because this is the first time
I write here and I'm so glad to be part of this comunity. My name is Pedro,
I have study Musicology and I didn't know the existence of lilypond until a
few days ago that I finded it casually at the net; I am very surprised for
the posibilities and I hope to learn to use it step by step because I am a
newbie in GNU/Linux, LaTeX and of course Lilypond.


Then welcome!


I am reading the tutorial of the software but firstly at all I have a small
doubt: What I want a page with the staves alone to print it? Because the
first steps in the tutorial is to learn notes, but I would like to know how
to print a page with a format of staves.


If what you're looking for is a way to make blank staff paper, I can tell 
you where to look. If you go to the lilypond website, follow the link at 
the top of the page, Documentation and a little way down on the first 
page is a link the the Lilypond Snippet Repository (LSR). If you go to the 
LSR, and do a search for blank staves (I just did a search for blank and 
it came up). This is an example that should work with the latest stable 
version of lilypond, though you may need to make some changes to the file 
if you want something different than what you see.


The LSR is a fine resource, and is a good place to start looking when 
you're trying to figure out how to do something.


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Re: switch to lilypond from finale

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Josu wrote:


Hi list,
i use to work as engraver for publishers companys.
I work with finale2004 under MacOSX, im really impressed by
this new software, but ive got a few
questions:
- How much quick can be this program? I use to work with really
big scores for large orchestra.


I can only speak for my experience, but for me it generally seems faster. 
Especially when dealing with larger groups, since extracting parts is 
much, much easier.


With Finale, I always found it best to have two scores: one which would be 
a conductor's score, and then another that would be used for part 
extraction. Cleaning up parts and score was always very time consuming. I 
usually find Lilypond to be quicker and easier in this respect.


Granted, there are some notable exceptions to this. Dynamics and text 
markups frequently have to be manually moved around to keep from colliding 
with slurs and articulations, and managing dynamics and hairpins can be a 
little counter-intuitive if not placed directly below a note (for example, 
a whole note that begins at forte, diminuendo to piano).


In general, though, I find that a first draft with Lilypond looks better 
than a first draft with Finale.


- What about avant garde notation? i engrave new compositions from alive 
composers, they put a lot of grafics and so. Can lilypond do this stuff? 
is better to work on a grafical software after the first edition in 
lilypond?


Depends on the level of graphics needed. If all you need to do is make 
squiggly lines, postscript commands are pretty easy to do. Otherwise, 
graphical software is probably faster and easier to work with.


Josiah


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Re: Roadmap to lily code

[D Josiah Boothby]

Regarding scheme, I can't really help you and would welcome additional 
explanations. However, in general, the easiest way to learn Lilypond (or 
at least what worked for me) is to go to the mutopia website and download 
lilypond sources. Copy and paste until you get comfortable starting from 
scratch (at which point you'll probably continue copying and pasting 
because you may find that it takes less time).


Also, the LSR (lilypond snippet repository) can be quite useful, but 
unfortunately, I have not spent enough time there to tell you how useful 
it is.


Josiah

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Mehmet Okonsar wrote:


Hello users and creators of the best music notation program in the world!

What can you suggest for learning Scheme?
A set of few links for getting from almost 0 up to Lilypond source.
Recommended readings textbooks and on-line tutorials..
Thanks



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Re: Install of 2.6.4 on FreeBSD

[D Josiah Boothby]

I wish I could help you. Have you tried asking this on the bug list?

Gordon Gilbert wrote:

Hi!

My install of 2.6.4 has stopped with the following output:

gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4/python' /bin/sh 
/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4/stepmake/stepmake/../bin/install-sh 
-c -d /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.6.4/python /bin/sh 
/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4/stepmake/stepmake/../bin/install-sh 
-c -m 644 ./out/midi.so /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.6.4/python/  true 
/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4/stepmake/stepmake/../bin/install-sh: 
./out/midi.so does not exist.

gmake[1]: *** [local-install-outfiles] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4/python' 
gmake: *** [install] Error 2 
[2:29:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/distfiles/lilypond-2.6.4


Can anyone tell me how to proceed from here, and get back on track to 
complete the install?  If there is a missing item (/.out/midi.so) does 
somebody have a copy, and where to I put it?  Or if I indeed *have* it, 
where is it, and where does it go?


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Re: Newbie needs help with LaTeX/lilypond integration

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Bernard Hurley wrote:


Does LyX work with windows? Maybe with cygwin?


There is a port of LyX for windows. Not being a windows user, I can't say 
how well it works, but I've been pleased with its performance on Linux. 
Info on the windows port can be found onthe following sites:


http://www.home.zonnet.nl/rareitsma/lyx/
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows


If so I have some scripts for integrating LyX with Lily.  It's all a bit 
experimental at the moment, so I am a bit wary of releasing it, but it 
works for me. If you think it might help I can gather all the bits 
together and add some instructions, but I won't have time to do this 
till Friday


Bernard


I'd be personally curious to try this out if you're willing to share it. 
Lilypond integration (or the lack thereof) is the only thing that has kept 
me from using LyX or Kile. For some reason I always seem to return to 
Emacs :)


Josiah


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Re: PDFLaTeX support (WAS: windows user of lilybook (wanted for help))

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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
If there is interest, PDFLaTeX support for lilypond-book is also a 
sponsorable feature.




How much?


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Re: place prall

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You might try treating them the same way you would any articulation, with 
_, -, or ^ depending on where you want it placed. I don't know offhand if 
this would work, though.


Josiah

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005, Aaron Mehl wrote:


Hi,

I think this is question of where to find this in the
docs.

I want to have a prall not be above the staff but be
below the staff under the note head.

What is it called to move the ornament?
I looked in the docs but couldn't figure out what to
call it.

Thanks
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Re: Magazine Article

[D Josiah Boothby]

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:

joe ferguson wrote:

There is an article about a highly specialized use of Lilypond in the 
December, 2005, issue of Linux Journal.


Make Stunning Schenker Graphs with GNU Lilypond 
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8364



this seems to be a subscription-only article; maybe someone could send a 
complimentary URL ?




Apparently, after 30 days, we should be able to read it because at that 
point it'll be a back issue.



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Re: Problem with title fonts

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yes, that's a common problem. try downloading the newest ec-fonts-mftraced 
package from the lilypond page:


http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/

josiah

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Daniel Hernandez wrote:


Hello group,
I'm a novice Lilypond user. I'm working with lilypond 2.4.5 in debian.
I intalled lilypond with apt-get. Now I'm compiling some lilypond codes,
for example from the lilypond page and not all works fine. The midi an
the scores are ok, but the font of title is not. I see the output from
the examples and the title is in a Roman font (I think computer modern),
but when I compile the same sources the font that I get is a typewriter
font (but not monospaced). I put the result of the comand
$ lilypond --png petite-ouverture-a-danser.ly
in http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~dhernand/lilypond/ How I can get the font 
correctly?


Thanks
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Re: The frust is growing up ... Was: Re: giving up frustrated ... :-(

[D Josiah Boothby]

Unfortunately, this is a bit of a problem with the Debian world. 
Outdated and (relatively) proven is given more importance than 
up-to-date -- even if the up-to-date software is better, more stable, 
and much more desirable.


Because of dependency chains, installing the official 2.6.3 .deb from 
unstable also installs xorg, and may also involve installing new 
versions of gcc, as well as many gnome-related apps and libraries -- 
things that don't necessarily seem, well, necessary. This is 
unfortunate, but as long as you continue using Sarge, you're probably 
going to be stuck with 2.2.6 or whatever version of 2.4 works best for you.


It seems to me that, at this point, the philosophies and mechanics 
involved with being a Debian user (at least if you want, or have, to 
continue using Sarge) are somewhat at odds with the needs of being a 
lilypond user.


Josiah

Roland Goretzki wrote:

Hello list, hello Erik,

You wrote:



Well, a 2.6.3 .deb is in debian unstable now, so perhaps you can try that.



Thank You,
I tried, but on my sarge 3.1 there are some difficulties with
dependencies, so this is not the way ... :-(

Every download (meanwhile more than five) spends over 80 minutes,
because I've only a 56k modem, so I would like to get a REAL solution
soon ...  ;-)

Best Regards   Roland


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creating .deb files

[D Josiah Boothby]

i don't know if i should send this here or do lilypond-dev, but i'll send 
here first.


it seems that the compilation is hanging while building the documentation, 
but i'm not certain. if i would like to try *not* building the 
documentation along with the rest of lilypond, would i edit the 
debian/rules file? if so, what would i comment out? if my suspcicion is 
correct, the relevant section looks like this:


build-doc: build build-doc-stamp
build-doc-stamp:
dh_testdir

# make info
$(MAKE) -C Documentation
# make html
$(MAKE) web
$(MAKE) -C Documentation/user omf
#   find . -type d -name 'out-www' | xargs rm -rf

touch build-doc-stamp



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