newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Caleb C Ong
Hi,

I did an install of sles9.  when i first did the install, i just created
ext3 fs with mount point / and allocated all my disk space to this.
Now my fs is getting full.

Is there a way to add disk space to the ext3 fs that i created ?  I read
about LVM . Do i need to setup LVM in order to resize my existing
ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?

thanks.

Caleb




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Re: newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Martin Eggen
Hi,
see this description: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_85_4842.shtm
This is on Red Hat, but the procedure should be similar on SLES.

regards,
Martin

On 21/08/07, Caleb C Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I did an install of sles9.  when i first did the install, i just created
 ext3 fs with mount point / and allocated all my disk space to this.
 Now my fs is getting full.

 Is there a way to add disk space to the ext3 fs that i created ?  I read
 about LVM . Do i need to setup LVM in order to resize my existing
 ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?

 thanks.

 Caleb




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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Session 9128 on the website comes up as file is damaged and cannot be
repaired.

K

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:12 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

The first batch of Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109 in San
Diego are now up on the linuxvm.org web site.  Thanks to all the
speakers who went to SHARE and contributed their presentations to the
community.

You can view them at http://linuxvm.org/present/#share109

SessPresenter   Title
9127Mark Post   VM for MVS Systems Programmers - Part 1
9128Martha McConaghyVM for MVS Systems Programmers - Part 2
9200Jim Elliott An Introduction to Linux and Open Source
9202Jim Elliott Linux on System z - A Strategic View
9205Mark Post   Choose the Wrong Architecture and Waste
Millions - A Customer Case Study
9216Rick Troth  Extreme File System Sharing - Linux on
Read-Only Root at Nationwide
9217Rick Troth  Tending the SANity of the Flock - SAN
Experiences at Nationwide
9224Mark Post   Linux/390 System Management for the
Mainframe System Programmer
9233Mark Post   Linux Installation Planning
9242Neale Ferguson  Linux for Beginners Hands-On Lab
9248Phil Smith III  Help! My (Virtual) Penguin Is Sick!
9253Neale Ferguson  Basic Linux Scripting Hands-On Lab
9265Chris Rohrbach  Total Cost of Ownership (TCO): Comparing System
z and Distributed Platforms
9283Rich SmrcinaUsing Hobbit to Monitor Networked Services
9284Phil Smith III  How To Turn a Penguin Into a Dog ...or... Things
To Do That Will Avoid Linux on z Success


Thanks,

Mark Post

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Re: newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Tom Shilson
Assuming you are running under z/VM:

If you have all file systems on the same disk you may want to move one or
more directories to their own physical disk.  You can use the command du
-sk * to get the current size of the files in a directory and its
subdirectories. Create a disk of a size that includes room for files and
growth, copy the files from the directory to the new disk,  mount the new
disk at that directory, and erase the old files. (You may need to perform
the erasure from another Linux instance. See below.) Modify /etc/fstab so
the new disk gets automatically mounted. Directories that are most often
split off are /tmp, /usr, /var, and /home.  The idea is to keep those file
systems that most often fill up from affecting the root ( / ) file system.


After you mount the new file system you will not have any extra free
space.  The old files are still under the mounted file system taking up
space.  Shut down the problem operating system.  Detach the problem disk
(or log off).  From another Linux instance link to that disk.  Mount it at
/mnt.  Erase all the files and subdirectories under /mnt/var/.  Umount the
disk and detach it.  Log on to the problem system and boot.  Your world
should be bright and sunny!

Some file systems cannot be split from root ( / ). They are needed before
the other file systems get mounted.  An example is /etc.

If this all seems overwhelming, you can just DDR your current disk to a
bigger disk, swap the disk virtual addresses, and boot from the new disk.
There is a resize2fs command so that  will expand the file system so it
can use the new space.

Others who know more can expand on these notes.


Tom Shilson
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Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 08/21/2007 05:15:23
AM:

 Hi,

 I did an install of sles9.  when i first did the install, i just created
 ext3 fs with mount point / and allocated all my disk space to this.
 Now my fs is getting full.

 Is there a way to add disk space to the ext3 fs that i created ?  I read
 about LVM . Do i need to setup LVM in order to resize my existing
 ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?

 thanks.

 Caleb




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Re: Linux Network problem using VSWITCH

2007-08-21 Thread Hans Rempel
No real reason Mark. I share my VSWITCH with VM/TCPIP  and VSE guests in the
other LPAR. I could create another VSWITCH but I think once I put this into
production I will be creating a Guest Lan which will host a separate subnet and
be protected by a firewall (a student lab scenario) . 

Hans  


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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Jones

Kevin, I sometimes get that error as well. I've found that if instead of
simply double clicking on the PDF link, you right click on it and then
do a safe file as to safe it directly onto your hard drive, you
can then open the saved file directly from Adobe Reader OK.

HTH.

DJ

Evans, Kevin R wrote:

Session 9128 on the website comes up as file is damaged and cannot be
repaired.

K

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:12 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

The first batch of Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109 in San
Diego are now up on the linuxvm.org web site.  Thanks to all the
speakers who went to SHARE and contributed their presentations to the
community.

You can view them at http://linuxvm.org/present/#share109

SessPresenter   Title
9127Mark Post   VM for MVS Systems Programmers - Part 1
9128Martha McConaghyVM for MVS Systems Programmers - Part 2
9200Jim Elliott An Introduction to Linux and Open Source
9202Jim Elliott Linux on System z - A Strategic View
9205Mark Post   Choose the Wrong Architecture and Waste
Millions - A Customer Case Study
9216Rick Troth  Extreme File System Sharing - Linux on
Read-Only Root at Nationwide
9217Rick Troth  Tending the SANity of the Flock - SAN
Experiences at Nationwide
9224Mark Post   Linux/390 System Management for the
Mainframe System Programmer
9233Mark Post   Linux Installation Planning
9242Neale Ferguson  Linux for Beginners Hands-On Lab
9248Phil Smith III  Help! My (Virtual) Penguin Is Sick!
9253Neale Ferguson  Basic Linux Scripting Hands-On Lab
9265Chris Rohrbach  Total Cost of Ownership (TCO): Comparing System
z and Distributed Platforms
9283Rich SmrcinaUsing Hobbit to Monitor Networked Services
9284Phil Smith III  How To Turn a Penguin Into a Dog ...or... Things
To Do That Will Avoid Linux on z Success


Thanks,

Mark Post

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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  6:55 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Session 9128 on the website comes up as file is damaged and cannot be
 repaired.

Yes.  For whatever reasons, that one, and 9127 were both incomplete.  No idea 
why, but it should be fixed now.  Downloads from the web site have the same 
md5sum as the originals.  So, give it another try and let me know if it still 
is not readable.


Thanks for reporting it,

Mark Post

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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Hi Mark,

Hmmm, I had no problem pulling up 9127 earlier or now. But 9128 still
shows me the same message as before.

Dave Jones (I think) suggested earlier that trying to rt click and save
as would work. Tried that also, still no go.

Thanks for the prompt response.

Kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:05 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  6:55 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Session 9128 on the website comes up as file is damaged and cannot be
 repaired.

Yes.  For whatever reasons, that one, and 9127 were both incomplete.  No
idea why, but it should be fixed now.  Downloads from the web site have
the same md5sum as the originals.  So, give it another try and let me
know if it still is not readable.


Thanks for reporting it,

Mark Post

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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Rich Smrcina

Indeed, in Firefox on Linux with Acrobat Reader 9 I get:

File does not begin with '%PDF-'

Evans, Kevin R wrote:

Hi Mark,

Hmmm, I had no problem pulling up 9127 earlier or now. But 9128 still
shows me the same message as before.

Dave Jones (I think) suggested earlier that trying to rt click and save
as would work. Tried that also, still no go.

Thanks for the prompt response.

Kevin


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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:25 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Hmmm, I had no problem pulling up 9127 earlier or now. But 9128 still
 shows me the same message as before.

Your browser (or company proxy) may be caching the old copy.  Try using wget or 
curl to download it.  The md5 checksum should be 
13c62054434d2cc4743fb3f51d3c7594, and the length should be 735874.


Mark Post

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Re: newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  6:15 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Caleb C
Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I did an install of sles9.  when i first did the install, i just created
 ext3 fs with mount point / and allocated all my disk space to this.
 Now my fs is getting full.

This has always been Linux for System z question 1 after a successful install.

 Is there a way to add disk space to the ext3 fs that i created ?  I read
 about LVM . Do i need to setup LVM in order to resize my existing
 ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?

You don't have to use LVM, but it's what I usually recommend.  Just _don't_ use 
it for your root file system.  (Other people disagree with this warning.)

Add one or more DASD volumes to your system.

If you don't want to use LVM, just break out /usr (since that is likely what is 
taking up the most space) by following the directions at 
http://linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/movefs.html

If you do want to use LVM, follow the general flow of Chapter 17, section 2 
onward of the  Linux for IBM eServer zSeries and S/390: Distributions, 
SG24-6264-00 Redbook at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246264.html   
_Then_ follow the directions of the HOWTO to move /usr onto an LVM Logical 
Volume (LV).


Mark Post

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Re: newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  6:15 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Caleb C
Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?

Sorry, forgot to address this point.  No, you won't lose any data if you follow 
the movefs HOWTO.


Mark Post

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Re: Linux Network problem using VSWITCH

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:05 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Hans Rempel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 No real reason Mark. I share my VSWITCH with VM/TCPIP  and VSE guests in the
 other LPAR. I could create another VSWITCH but I think once I put this into
 production I will be creating a Guest Lan which will host a separate subnet 
 and be protected by a firewall (a student lab scenario) . 

My concern was the routing that might be going on.  You say you can ping your 
Linux guests from outside the z/VM system.  Do you know if those pings are 
going through z/VM's TCP/IP first?  (traceroute -n will tell you.)


Mark Post

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Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Well, don't get access to wget or curl on this unclassified PCthat talks
to the outside world. The other PC (classified) doesn't talk to the
outside world. Sigh.

However, I used shift/click on IE on 9128 and it grabbed it this time.

Thanks.

Kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:38 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:25 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Mark,

 Hmmm, I had no problem pulling up 9127 earlier or now. But 9128 still
 shows me the same message as before.

Your browser (or company proxy) may be caching the old copy.  Try using
wget or curl to download it.  The md5 checksum should be
13c62054434d2cc4743fb3f51d3c7594, and the length should be 735874.


Mark Post

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More Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM and IBM-MAIN

The second batch of Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109 in San Diego
are now up on the linuxvm.org web site.  There were some reports of
corrupted files from the first batch.  I downloaded everything, and
re-uploaded anything that didn't match the source file.  The same has been
done for this batch as well.  If you're still having problems accessing a
particular presentation, try wget, curl, whatever to see if that corrects
things.

You can view them at http://linuxvm.org/present/#share109

SessPresenter   Title
9110Romney Whitez/VM Live Guest Migration
9111Romney WhiteUsing New CP Features in z/VM 5.3
9150Jay Brenneman   CSE For High Availability and System Management
9240Jay Brenneman   Linux on z/VM System Programmer Survival Guide


Thanks,

Mark Post

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Suse 10: Yast problem

2007-08-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I'm running SLES 10 with SP1 and using Putty.

Yast
Network Services
SLP Server
   Show Log

Now the log is displayed.
Great, now how do you exit it?

Enter doesn't work.
Tab doesn't do anything.
Esc doesn't do anything.

The only thing that works, is to close out Putty and start over.
There must be a better way that I don't know (yet).

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: Missing OSA/2 Interfaces

2007-08-21 Thread David Stuart
Mark, 

Would that I could. 

With the network interfaces down, my only access to the Linux system is via the 
HMC.  And we had a UPS fail last night (physically, some part went out), and 
the HMC is 'Toast' at the present time.  At this time, the CE is not sure what 
he will have to do to fix it.  He mentioned something about having to reload 
it, or maybe replace the  System board, or maybe replace the HMC? 

However, as soon as the HMC comes back up, I'll run your commands, and send on 
the output.  Hmm,  I don't think the HMC has 'Cut  Paste'...



Dave 




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 Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/20/2007 7:22 PM 
 On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at  7:19 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], David Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
-snip-
 I was running out of space on '/', so I followed the procedure to move part 
 of a file system to another volume.  I successfully moved /usr to a new 
 volume.  It mounted successfully, so I updated /etc/fstab following the 
 procedure.  All was good.  So I shut down and rebooted.  During reboot, there 
 are messages to the HMC about waiting for required device and has the OSA 
 device numbers in the message.  The after a few seconds a message comes out 
 'Network interfaces not found', and boot continues.  
 
 The OSA interfaces appear completely dead from the 'outside'.  The physical 
 OSA ports are working just fine (shared with other LPARs). 
 
 Linux is SLES 9 SP3 running in an LPAR on a 9672.  
 
 Ideas?  

Send me the output from the following commands (off-list please):
lsmod
hwinfo
ifconfig -a
grep . /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw
ls -lR /sys/devices/qeth/

Also, what happens when you modprobe qeth and dmesg | tail -n 30 ?


Mark Post

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GDPS/XRC

2007-08-21 Thread Susan Zimmerman
Hi Listers.

We are in the planning stages of implementing GDPS/XRC.  We have z/OS,
z/VM, and Linux on zSeries (running as guests on z/VM).  z/VM is at 5.3
installed on CKD.   Linux is SLES9 SP3 installed on CKD and SCSI.  CKD for
/ (root) and SCSI for user data.  The SCSI is via EDEV.

From what I've read it appears that Linux for zSeries is supported by XRC
(on CKD - which means I'll need to convert off SCSI), but  I can't quite
determine if z/VM is supported.

I've searched the LISTSERV archives and found where folks have been
discussing this very issue...but I'm still unsure about z/VM.  If z/VM
isn't supported, must the Linux volumes be dedicated to the guest?

Any information (pitfalls, success stories),  on this is greatly
appreciated!I posted  this on the IBMVM Listserv, but also wanted to
get a Linux perspective.

TIA,

susan

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Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie)
Hi All,
In the virtualization cookbooks for RHEL 4 and 5, it says in single
user mode, you are logged in as the root user and all of the file
systems in /etc/fstab are mounted.   This has not been my experience
and I am trying to determine why. None of my SLES 9 or RHEL AS 4 systems
go into single user mode without prompting for the root password.   
I have verified that the TERMINAL LINEND character is set when issuing
the VI VMSG response.
I have been told that the prompt indicates an error in /etc/fstab or a
startup problem.  If I boot into another state ( 3 or 5 ), there is no
indication of /etc/fstab problems.  Checking dmesg, I can't see any
errors.
Any other suggestions for debugging this problem, please?

Betsie (the clueless)


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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Bill Dodge
In single user mode for SUSE you are logged in as the root user however that is 
not true with RedHat.  To start single user mode in RedHat you need to know the 
root password.  A real PITA.


 Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote:

 Hi All,
 In the virtualization cookbooks for RHEL 4 and 5, it says in single
 user mode, you are logged in as the root user and all of the file
 systems in /etc/fstab are mounted.   This has not been my experience
 and I am trying to determine why. None of my SLES 9 or RHEL AS 4 systems
 go into single user mode without prompting for the root password.   
 I have verified that the TERMINAL LINEND character is set when issuing
 the VI VMSG response.
 I have been told that the prompt indicates an error in /etc/fstab or a
 startup problem.  If I boot into another state ( 3 or 5 ), there is no
 indication of /etc/fstab problems.  Checking dmesg, I can't see any
 errors.
 Any other suggestions for debugging this problem, please?
 
 Betsie (the clueless)
 

In single user mode for SUSE you are logged in as the root user however that is 
not true with RedHat.  To start single user mode in RedHat you need to know the 
root password.  A real PITA.


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Re: Suse 10: Yast problem

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  2:19 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Duerbusch
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-snip-
 Now the log is displayed.
 Great, now how do you exit it?
 
 Enter doesn't work.
 Tab doesn't do anything.

Not sure what to tell you.  My gnome-terminal session to a SLES10 system works 
just fine when I tab to the close button and hit enter.


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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  3:21 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Dodge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In single user mode for SUSE you are logged in as the root user however that 
 is not true with RedHat.  To start single user mode in RedHat you need to 
 know the root password.  A real PITA.

SLES10:
# telinit S
-snip-
Sending all processes the TERM signal...  
..done  
Sending all processes the KILL signal...  
..done  
Master Resource Control: runlevel S has been reached  
Give root password for login: 


Looks the same to me.  Same results for telinit 1 as well.


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Re: Missing OSA/2 Interfaces

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  2:07 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], David Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
-snip-
 However, as soon as the HMC comes back up, I'll run your commands, and send 
 on the output.  Hmm,  I don't think the HMC has 'Cut  Paste'...

I could have sworn that during the Redbook residency that we used some facility 
on the HMC to write screen contents into a file that we could subsequently 
transfer off to a PC.  Mike?  Anyone?  Am I right, or is my memory failing?


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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Bill Dodge
 
 SLES10:
 # telinit S
 -snip-
 Sending all processes the TERM signal...  
 ..done  
 Sending all processes the KILL signal...  
 ..done  
 Master Resource Control: runlevel S has been reached  
 Give root password for login: 
 
 
 Looks the same to me.  Same results for telinit 1 as well.
 
 




 Mark Post
 

Ah!  SLES 10!  The last time I did it was SLES 7. :-) 
RedHat added the root password requirement sometime after AS 3 (which would 
probably have been RHEL 3 also).  I can still single user mode without a root 
password on the RedHat used by Symantec's mail gateway which we think is AS or 
ES 3.
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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie)
Both a Red Hat zLinux tech and an IBM zLinux tech told me otherwise.
 

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bill Dodge
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:21 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Single user mode and root password

In single user mode for SUSE you are logged in as the root user however
that is not true with RedHat.  To start single user mode in RedHat you
need to know the root password.  A real PITA.


 Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote:

 Hi All,
 In the virtualization cookbooks for RHEL 4 and 5, it says in single 
 user mode, you are logged in as the root user and all of the file
 systems in /etc/fstab are mounted.   This has not been my experience
 and I am trying to determine why. None of my SLES 9 or RHEL AS 4
systems
 go into single user mode without prompting for the root password.   
 I have verified that the TERMINAL LINEND character is set when issuing

 the VI VMSG response.
 I have been told that the prompt indicates an error in /etc/fstab or a

 startup problem.  If I boot into another state ( 3 or 5 ), there is no

 indication of /etc/fstab problems.  Checking dmesg, I can't see any 
 errors.
 Any other suggestions for debugging this problem, please?
 
 Betsie (the clueless)
 

In single user mode for SUSE you are logged in as the root user however
that is not true with RedHat.  To start single user mode in RedHat you
need to know the root password.  A real PITA.


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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  4:09 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Dodge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 Ah!  SLES 10!  The last time I did it was SLES 7. :-) 

Betsie was right, SLES9 as well.  Even Slackware does this now.

It's controlled by what's in /etc/inittab, if anyone is interested in modifying 
that.  You too can make your system (somewhat) less secure.  :)


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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Gregg Levine
On 8/21/07, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  4:09 PM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Dodge
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -snip-
  Ah!  SLES 10!  The last time I did it was SLES 7. :-)

 Betsie was right, SLES9 as well.  Even Slackware does this now.

 It's controlled by what's in /etc/inittab, if anyone is interested in
 modifying that.  You too can make your system (somewhat) less secure.  :)


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Hello!
Mark is right. That's what happens on this fellow, he's running
Slackware 11.0 (Intel) with the usual cluster of security stuff, and
some options from other sources.

Ideally it should be documented in an easy to understand format someplace.

Consider what happened when a fellow member saw his system go through
the classic fsck function. If the system discovered a really
outrageous problem that itself could not repair it would drop into
single user mode and invite that user to enter the root password and
follow the listed there steps to repair the damage if possible.

Incidentally Mark the advice both you and David B provided concerning
those problems were spot-on and exactly what I would have done if I
saw it first, and more importantly, knew what to post and how to post
it.

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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  2:47 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Spann,
Elizebeth (Betsie) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi All,
 In the virtualization cookbooks for RHEL 4 and 5, it says in single
 user mode, you are logged in as the root user and all of the file
 systems in /etc/fstab are mounted.   This has not been my experience
 and I am trying to determine why.
-snip-

I would say that's a doc APAR in the making.  Mike?

 Betsie (the clueless)

Hardly clueless.


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Re: Suse 10: Yast problem

2007-08-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
tab to close button

I don't have a close button.  

Just tried it again.  Still no button.

That is with Putty with the standard 24X80 window size.   In this case, the 
log window is almost the same size as the yast window.  No button shown.

However, if, before I toggle the show log button, I put Putty in full 
screen mode, and then toggle the show log button,  I see:

The log window is within a second window, which is within the Putty/yast window.
With the default size, the log window is almost the same size as the Putty/yast 
window.  
The second window seems to be autosized down to fit within the Putty/yast 
window which cuts off the close button.

Once I'm in the log, resizing the Putty/yast session to full screen, doesn't 
seem to help.  The second window doesn't seem to be dynamically resized.  It 
seems that you need to have a larger than 24X80 session going before you do the 
show log.

Also, unexpectedly, when I'm in this problem, PF9 will get me out.  I had no 
idea Linux looked at PF keys, cared about PF keys, or had any sense that PF 
keys exist.  I don't see anywhere where Putty might have PF keys mapped to 
something.  PF1 (help) sure doesn't work.

Anyway, interesting side tangent. 
Back to my main tangent.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/21/2007 2:34 PM 
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  2:19 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Duerbusch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 Now the log is displayed.
 Great, now how do you exit it?
 
 Enter doesn't work.
 Tab doesn't do anything.

Not sure what to tell you.  My gnome-terminal session to a SLES10 system works 
just fine when I tab to the close button and hit enter.


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Re: Suse 10: Yast problem

2007-08-21 Thread Richard Troth
Tom said:
  That is with Putty with the standard 24X80 window size.


Try stretching to 25 lines.
A lot of PC Linux apps assume there is a 25th line.
(Not that I recall if YaST does, just that some do.)



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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread R P Herrold

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Mark Post wrote:


Master Resource Control: runlevel S has been reached
Give root password for login:

Looks the same to me.  Same results for telinit 1 as well.


possibly a bootloader password.  that is not the customary
login password prompt challenge.

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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8/21/07, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's controlled by what's in /etc/inittab, if anyone is interested in 
 modifying that.  You too can make your system (somewhat) less secure.  :)

I beg to differ...   I believe that not having a Linux root password
at all (but using cryptic keys) is more secure. And when you don't
have a root password, you don't want to get prompted for it either.
Apart from the inittab, I recall something in the boot scripts (around
fsck) also needed to be fixed.
And for the case where you can not decode the keys, using RACF to
control access to the virtual machine console works nice.

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Re: Single user mode and root password

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at  5:08 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], R P Herrold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Mark Post wrote:
 
 Master Resource Control: runlevel S has been reached
 Give root password for login:

 Looks the same to me.  Same results for telinit 1 as well.
 
 possibly a bootloader password.  that is not the customary
 login password prompt challenge.

No, that wasn't a prompt for a boot loader password.  No such thing exists on 
mainframe Linux.  (Or if it does, and no one told me, I certainly haven't 
turned it on.)  That was from the 3215 console after issuing the telinit 
command.  It comes from /sbin/sulogin, which is what is invoked via 
/etc/inittab in single user mode:
# what to do in single-user mode
ls:S:wait:/etc/init.d/rc S
~~:S:respawn:/sbin/sulogin



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PC File Transfer to Linux Server

2007-08-21 Thread sfishel
Hi,

We are running several Linux servers on a VSE/ESA mainframe using Linux 8.2
and VSE 2.6.3.

I would like to take a file on a PC or network drive and using a batch VSE
job transfer it to a Linux server.  Does anyone have an easy way to set up
this routine?  I am currently running Windows 2000 on the PC that contains
the file.  It has to be setup in VSE batch mode for computer operations.

Please help if possible.

Thanks!

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Re: Suse 10: Yast problem

2007-08-21 Thread David Boyes
 Also, unexpectedly, when I'm in this problem, PF9 will get me out.  I
had
 no idea Linux looked at PF keys, cared about PF keys, or had any sense
 that PF keys exist.  I don't see anywhere where Putty might have PF
keys
 mapped to something.  PF1 (help) sure doesn't work.

Function keys in the ASCII world send inband key sequences. The most
widely accepted terminals (DEC VTxxx and ANSI X3.64) have a number of
predefined function keys (and most other terminal vendors provide some
function keys). 

Applications can accept any key sequence they want, thus if the
application wants to accept function keys, it can. The Unix command
interpreter is a application, and some command interpreters do
understand them (which is why bash allows using arrow keys to scroll
back and forward in command history). 

Putty lets you do key to function mapping. This option affects the
function keys (F1 to F12) and the top row of the numeric keypad.

*   In the default mode, labelled ESC [n~, the function keys
generate sequences like ESC [11~, ESC [12~ and so on. This matches the
general behaviour of Digital's terminals.

*   In Linux mode, F6 to F12 behave just like the default mode, but
F1 to F5 generate ESC [[A through to ESC [[E. This mimics the Linux
virtual console.

*   In Xterm R6 mode, F5 to F12 behave like the default mode, but F1
to F4 generate ESC OP through to ESC OS
, which are the sequences produced by the top row of the keypad on
Digital's terminals.

*   In VT400 mode, all the function keys behave like the default
mode, but the actual top row of the numeric keypad generates ESC OP
through to ESC OS.

*   In VT100+ mode, the function keys generate ESC OP through to ESC
O[

*   In SCO mode, the function keys F1 to F12 generate ESC [M through
to ESC [X. Together with shift, they generate ESC [Y through to ESC [j.
With control they generate ESC [k through to ESC [v, and with shift and
control together they generate ESC [w through to ESC [{.

If you don't know what any of this means, you probably don't need to
fiddle with it.  It really matters for VMS, though...8-)

If you get stuck, try ESC 3. The 7171 default keymap lives. 8-)

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Re: PC File Transfer to Linux Server

2007-08-21 Thread Neale Ferguson
There's an NJE option that would allow job submission and output
transmission to/from Linux  z/VSE:
http://www.barnardsoftware.com/ftp/nje/njeipbridge-fs.pdf

On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 17:25 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 We are running several Linux servers on a VSE/ESA mainframe using Linux 8.2
 and VSE 2.6.3.

 I would like to take a file on a PC or network drive and using a batch VSE
 job transfer it to a Linux server.  Does anyone have an easy way to set up
 this routine?  I am currently running Windows 2000 on the PC that contains
 the file.  It has to be setup in VSE batch mode for computer operations.

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Re: PC File Transfer to Linux Server

2007-08-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Can't get there from here G.

If you have a PC file, you can ftp from the PC to Linux.
If you want VSE to automagically do things, you need to run a FTP server on 
your PC (for a file on a PC drive or a currently mounted network drive),  (or 
on your network for files on your network drives (mounted or not)).

But, a VSE FTP job (as a client) to any FTP server, follows:  (this is a DSM 
file, a competitor to Dynam/D)

// DLBL DSMFILE,'ACCTFIL1'   
// EXTENT SYS001,DT3390,1,0,1,1  
// EXEC FTPBATCH,SIZE=256K,PARM='IP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'  (happens to be a VM 
server)
MAINT
x
TOMD 
xxx 
CD VMSYSU:DOSESA2.   
EBCDIC   
LSITE LRECL 80   
LDIR 
PUT %DSMFILE,SAM,FB,080,2000  GLEN.TEST (REPLACE 
QUIT 

Tom Duerbusch
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Hi,

We are running several Linux servers on a VSE/ESA mainframe using Linux 8.2
and VSE 2.6.3.

I would like to take a file on a PC or network drive and using a batch VSE
job transfer it to a Linux server.  Does anyone have an easy way to set up
this routine?  I am currently running Windows 2000 on the PC that contains
the file.  It has to be setup in VSE batch mode for computer operations.

Please help if possible.

Thanks!

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Re: PC File Transfer to Linux Server

2007-08-21 Thread David Boyes
 I would like to take a file on a PC or network drive and using a batch
VSE
 job transfer it to a Linux server.  Does anyone have an easy way to
set up
 this routine?  I am currently running Windows 2000 on the PC that
contains
 the file.  It has to be setup in VSE batch mode for computer
operations.

There's a bunch of ways to do this. Here's one:

Install Samba on the Linux guest. Write a small script that does a
'mount -T smbfs' for the Windows drive and then uses the Linux cp
command to copy the file from the SMB drive, then unmounts the Windows
drive. The script will need to specify the Windows machine, the
location, and login credentials for the Windows machine. 

Once you have that, use the VSE TCPIP REXEC support to remotely execute
the script on the Linux system -- then you can schedule it in VSE, and
you get valid return codes, etc. 

If you can't use REXEC for security reasons, get a copy of BSI's NJE
Bridge and use the RJE support for Linux in it. VSE sees it as another
node, and you can send the Linux system a script to run, and it'll run
it and send the results back to VSE. 

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Re: Linux Network problem using VSWITCH

2007-08-21 Thread Hans Rempel
The TCPIP userid is not the controller as David mentioned. 

Mark. I will not be able to try the Traceroute until I get back into the office
on Monday. 

In the past I used TCPIP as a router but with the vswitch I moved away from
that practice. 

It almost appears as if the Linux guests pick up the ping (worked with the
TCPIP userid) but do negotiate their mac addresses ( ARP tables may not be
updated?). Not sure if I used the correct terms here. 

Hans 


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