Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/09/2008 at 07:33 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Added one more line separator to the list below.  It usually burns me
> when I use iconv.
>
:
> NEL   - New/Next Line (ASCII x'85').  May see this when EBCDIC
> data is translated to ASCII, as with iconv.

NEL?  Not in any codepage I've ever heard of.  All ASCII control controls
will be 0x01-0x1F.  In order to ensure fidelity on a round trip
(EBCDIC->ASCII->EBCDIC), what you will find is that EBCDIC values that
have no ASCII equivalent will be assigned to ASCII codepoints that have no
EBCDIC equivalent.

For example, 0x85 in Windows is an ellipsis, which doesn't exist in any
EBCDIC code page.  In UNIX (ISO 8859-1) and its derivatives, it has no
meaning.  And since NL doesn't exist in ASCII, 0x15 and 0x85 can be safely
transposed.

If you found an EBCDIC codepage that *did* have an ellipsis, then the
translation for that particular codepage to Windows (1252) would have to
find some other ASCII code point to contain the NL.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
One should ask some really tough questions :)
When was your last release for this platform?
What date is the next planned update?
How does that compare to the other platform?  Are they on the same
level?
How many other z customers do you have?
Can you give me references?
Quiz the marketing rep--- who else is he/she marketing too at the
moment?  Can we have some joint discussions/presentations?

(once bitten twice shy :)


I kinda feel for the vendors.  This is a very tough and really super
educated crowd.  (what other computer internet list can you get on and
not get ripped apart for being clueless ? :)  While that it is good,
that just means fewer vendors are going to tread into the z linux space
without a good sized handful of customers with checkbooks (unless they
are IBM - but hey, not even all their stuff runs on z linux :)  Even CA
hasn't made good progress in z Linux things and their pockets are
probably deep and they do understand the z customers.   We've had some
success in getting together with other large customers and pressuring
the vendors to deliver z linux agents for their stuff (we're not even
asking for the servers -- just the darn agents so we can fall in line
with the company choices -- choices made by the distributed world
czars). 

Levanta did really help with a lot of the systems management issues that
Mike asked about.  The interface to the VM directory (whether it be
VM:secure, Dirmaint/RACF, or xedit the big file) - call that 'virtual
bare metal' if you will, was flawless.  They solved the DASD sharing
problem transparently to the server with their mapfs filesystem.   Being
venture capitalist funded... They ran outta time (but imploded way way
after the rest of those who came on the map in 2000 :)





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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:06 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Systems management - quick survey?

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  2:38 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael MacIsaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks to all who replied.
> 
> I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z:
>>Yes, we do still have a version that
>>supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the distributed Linux

>>and Solaris space.
> 
> So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead.

Perhaps, but try finding any mention of that on their web site.


Mark Post

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Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  2:38 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
MacIsaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks to all who replied.
> 
> I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z:
>>Yes, we do still have a version that
>>supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the distributed Linux
>>and Solaris space.
> 
> So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead.

Perhaps, but try finding any mention of that on their web site.


Mark Post

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Re: Yast install. What did I specify wrong? Mount error code -3003

2008-07-09 Thread Sienicki, Paul K
Sorry that was a mistype. 

The dasdc should have been:
>* Create partition /dev/dasdc1 (2.2 GB) with unknown 

I was just trying to do a simple install. I thought or wanted to stay
away from LVM. Because I know even less there. 

The 3 disks were from the sample that came with the starter. So I was
following it. Dasda the small one was to be the boot and dasdb root. And
whatever on the 3rd.

Various iterations through this part either generated warnings on Dasd
not selected or something like that. 
Then /boot and /root missing.
And when the dasda was attempted to put the /root on it said it needed a
dasda1.
The ...1s were generated after (in text mode) positioned the cursor over
dasda on the partition screen and pressed enter.  

Rather than review the many ways I found to do it wrong. Lets say I drop
the smaller volumes and we just say a 1 pack install. Going through Yast
DASD activate and partition screens What is the simplest steps to get it
to work? But having given yast enough to properly complete?

Thank you very much

Paul

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott Rohling
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:42 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Yast install. What did I specify wrong? Mount error code
-3003

>* Create root partition /dev/dasdb1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
>* Create root partition /dev/dasdc1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
>

This part bothers me (as well as the unknown) -- it's like it created 2
root
partitions - 1 on dasdb1 and 1 on dasdc1.It seems like your mount
points
are messed up..   What are you wanting to do with the 3 disks?   (Use
them
as an LVM, use one as a mount point for /usr, what?)

If you do manual partitioning you should be able to specify which device
will be root, which will be /boot, etc.   Sounds like maybe duplicate
mount
points were specified...

Scott

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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Ok was able to check the drive now it is FTFS and has 38.0 gig free
spaces

So not sure why I can't download the 4gig ish dvd but will keep looking

thaks
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bruce Furber
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: dvd download

The drive has to be formated with NTFS  because FAT has a max file size

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: dvd download


Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
dvd1 it now says "complete".

The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
(almost the same size as before with IE)

Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...

The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free






Paul




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Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-09 Thread Douglas Wooster
Added one more line separator to the list below.  It usually burns me
when I use iconv.

On 07/09/2008 02:16:22 PM, Stewart Thomas J wrote:
> For reference, these are what you'll be looking for in your od output:
>
> CRLF  - Carriage Return Line Feed (ASCII x'0D0A', escape sequence
> '\n'). Used on Windows (DOS) platforms.
> CR- Carriage Return (ASCII x'0D', escape sequence '\r'). Early
> Mac, before it became Unix based.
> LF- Line Feed (ASCII x'0A', EBCDIC x'25'). Unix and Unix-like
> systems (Linux, AIX, Mac OS X+).
> NL- New Line or Next Line (EBCDIC x'15'). EBCDIC systems (IBM
> mainframe, i5/OS).
  NEL   - New/Next Line (ASCII x'85').  May see this when EBCDIC
  data is translated to ASCII, as with iconv.
>
> I'd be guessing the file in Unix has x'0D0A' at the end, then when
> it gets to Linux it just has x'0A'.
>
> I believe the z/OS FTP client is expecting the data to end with
> x'0D0A' to bring it in correctly. I would recommend running a
> utility on the Linux side to change the data to the way it should
> be. Look at the dos2unix and unix2dos utilities. Or try sed with
> somethink like one of these:
> sed  s/.$//  >   
> sed  s/$/\\x0d/  >   
>
> Good reference:
>  http://homepage.smc.edu/morgan_david/CS41/lineterminators.htm
>
> Other than that you'd have to look at the man pages for the sftp
> software you are using between Linux and Unix to see if there is
> something you can specify to make it  do a binary transfer.
>
> You don't want to do a binary transfer from Linux to z/OS, or else
> you'll still have to translate the data on z/OS and strip out the
> end-of-line characters. Of course, it has lots of options for that.
> We do some transfers where we do binary FTP them to z/OS and then
> use the iconv and Unix System Services cp command to translate them
> and transform the end-of-line characters.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Edmund R. MacKenty
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: SFTP versus FTP
>
> On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> > I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to
> >Linux using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
> >When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
> >lines.
> >That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
> >(using "get" command).
> >The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the
> >file which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
> >When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$"
> >(end of line character) on both files (in the same column).
> >
> >1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process?
> >(I'm assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that
> >file  using SFTP without losing any characters?
>
> You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at
> the values of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output
> printable ASCII characters as themselves, carriage-return and
> newline as "\r" and "\n", and other control characters as octal
> values.  For example:
> od -c myfile | less
>
> >2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use
> >the file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the
> >FTP-ed file).
>
> Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin"
> command in your FTP client to do that.
> - MacK.
> -
> Edmund R. MacKenty
> Software Architect
> Rocket Software, Inc.
> Newton, MA USA

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Re: Reiser

2008-07-09 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>> It may be that bug reports go unheeded for a while.

> The good news is it looks like 15 years and not 25 ;-)

Actually, OJ Simpson is taking over maintenance.

   Dennis

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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Furber
The drive has to be formated with NTFS  because FAT has a max file size

- Original Message -
From: "Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: dvd download


Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
dvd1 it now says "complete".

The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
(almost the same size as before with IE)

Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...

The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free






Paul




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Re: Yast install. What did I specify wrong? Mount error code -3003

2008-07-09 Thread Scott Rohling
>* Create root partition /dev/dasdb1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
>* Create root partition /dev/dasdc1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
>

This part bothers me (as well as the unknown) -- it's like it created 2 root
partitions - 1 on dasdb1 and 1 on dasdc1.It seems like your mount points
are messed up..   What are you wanting to do with the 3 disks?   (Use them
as an LVM, use one as a mount point for /usr, what?)

If you do manual partitioning you should be able to specify which device
will be root, which will be /boot, etc.   Sounds like maybe duplicate mount
points were specified...

Scott

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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Eddie Chen
 if it's vsftp, it  will strip "crlf"  to "lf"

 ascii_upload=yes/no





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On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to
Linux
>using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
>When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
>lines.
>That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
> (using "get" command).
>The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the
file
>which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
>When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end
of
>line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
>1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
>assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file
> using SFTP without losing any characters?

You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at the
values
of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output printable ASCII
characters as themselves, carriage-return and newline as "\r" and "\n", and
other control characters as octal values.  For example:
 od -c myfile | less

>2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use the
>file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the FTP-ed
>file).

Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin" command
in
your FTP client to do that.
 - MacK.
-
Edmund R. MacKenty
Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM
Thank you 

I did "od -c myfile | less" and the SFTP-ed file did not have "\r".
I run "sed  s/$/\\x0d/ > "  the new output file has the
"\r" (and the correct number of bytes).  
I will test ftp to mainframe tomorrow, to verify that the problem is fixed

Thanks again for all the help I got.

Tomasz 

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart
Thomas J
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:16 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SFTP versus FTP

For reference, these are what you'll be looking for in your od output:

CRLF - Carriage Return Line Feed (ASCII x'0D0A', escape sequence '\n'). Used
on Windows (DOS) platforms.
CR- Carriage Return (ASCII x'0D', escape sequence '\r'). Early Mac,
before it became Unix based.
LF - Line Feed (ASCII x'0A', EBCDIC x'25'). Unix and Unix-like systems
(Linux, AIX, Mac OS X+).
NL- New Line or Next Line (EBCDIC x'15'). EBCDIC systems (IBM mainframe,
i5/OS).

I'd be guessing the file in Unix has x'0D0A' at the end, then when it gets to
Linux it just has x'0A'.

I believe the z/OS FTP client is expecting the data to end with x'0D0A' to
bring it in correctly. I would recommend running a utility on the Linux side
to change the data to the way it should be. Look at the dos2unix and unix2dos
utilities. Or try sed with somethink like one of these:
sed  s/.$//  >   
sed  s/$/\\x0d/  >   

Good reference: http://homepage.smc.edu/morgan_david/CS41/lineterminators.htm

Other than that you'd have to look at the man pages for the sftp software you
are using between Linux and Unix to see if there is something you can specify
to make it  do a binary transfer.

You don't want to do a binary transfer from Linux to z/OS, or else you'll
still have to translate the data on z/OS and strip out the end-of-line
characters. Of course, it has lots of options for that. We do some transfers
where we do binary FTP them to z/OS and then use the iconv and Unix System
Services cp command to translate them and transform the end-of-line
characters.


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmund
R. MacKenty
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:02 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SFTP versus FTP

On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to 
>Linux using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
>When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79 
>lines.
>That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS 
>(using "get" command).
>The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the 
>file which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
>When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$"
>(end of line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
>1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process?
>(I'm assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that 
>file  using SFTP without losing any characters?

You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at the
values of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output printable ASCII
characters as themselves, carriage-return and newline as "\r" and "\n", and
other control characters as octal values.  For example:
od -c myfile | less

>2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use 
>the file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the 
>FTP-ed file).

Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin" command in
your FTP client to do that.
- MacK.
-
Edmund R. MacKenty
Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Eddie Chen
Is your LINUX server using vsftp?



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On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to
Linux
>using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
>When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
>lines.
>That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
> (using "get" command).
>The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the
file
>which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
>When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end
of
>line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
>1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
>assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file
> using SFTP without losing any characters?

You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at the
values
of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output printable ASCII
characters as themselves, carriage-return and newline as "\r" and "\n", and
other control characters as octal values.  For example:
 od -c myfile | less

>2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use the
>file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the FTP-ed
>file).

Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin" command
in
your FTP client to do that.
 - MacK.
-
Edmund R. MacKenty
Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Yast install. What did I specify wrong? Mount error code -3003

2008-07-09 Thread Sienicki, Paul K
Ok. I am getting errors on the yast install.
They are occurring during the mount after format.

The selections I have made are below.
Under Disk Activation I chose Configure DASD Disks.
Then selected 150,151,152 then activated and formatted.
Then selected 160 (swap vdisk) and activated.
I did not make a DIAG selection.

Installation mode = New Install
Etc.

Partitioning
No automatic proposal possible. Specify mount points manually in
the 'Partitioner' dialog
I have tried many iterations of selecting and dasdfmt and
specifying /boot / and have no idea how to setup or the standard name
for a LVM. 
Somewhere along the line it squawked that it needed a /boot or /
and that it could not specify on except on a 1 type device.
Anyway the latest selection is displayed on the screen scrape
below.

Well the screen scrape is rejected so here is the partitioning
information:
Partitioning
* Execute dasdfmt on disk /dev/dasda
* Execute dasdfmt on disk /dev/dasdb
* Execute dasdfmt on disk /dev/dasdc
* Create boot partition /dev/dasda1 (35.1 MB) with unknown
* Create root partition /dev/dasdb1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
* Create root partition /dev/dasdc1 (2.2 GB) with unknown
* Use /dev/dasdd1 as swap


In execution I received the following error:
Error
Failure occurred during the following action:
Mounting /dev/dasdb1 to /

System error code was: -3003
Mount -t auto /dev/dasdb1 /mnt:
Mount:you must specify the filesystem type


Please help.

Thank you very much.

Paul

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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Sounds like a maybe .. the firewalls are rather good thought I'll give
it a go ... also just to make it worse the only systems I can use now
are red hat so any suse parms or commands wont work ... 

Thanks all ... I'll try some more stuff but am done for today !!

Again thanks... 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:53 PM
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Subject: Re: dvd download

Re: wget on Linux - I think Paul already said he wasn't allowed out of
Linux to the internet.
But perhaps he could set up linux to use the same proxy server that his
IE is set up for and sneak out that way :)
(update /etc/sysconfig/proxy and run /sbin/SuSEconfig  on SuSE - be sure
to logout/in to get the new env variables).
 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] dvd download

Try wget on Linux..  If you're on Windows -- well, I use Cygwin and have
wget on there..  For files this big, straight browser downloads don't
seem
to do well.  wget allows you do recontinue a broken xfer (wget -c)..   I
have terrible luck with very large files with just about anything but
wget and torrent clients..

Scott

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ayer, Paul W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
> dvd1 it now says "complete".
>
> The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
> (almost the same size as before with IE)
>
> Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...
>
> The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
Re: wget on Linux - I think Paul already said he wasn't allowed out of
Linux to the internet.
But perhaps he could set up linux to use the same proxy server that his
IE is set up for and sneak out that way :)
(update /etc/sysconfig/proxy and run /sbin/SuSEconfig  on SuSE - be sure
to logout/in to get the new env variables).
 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:46 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] dvd download

Try wget on Linux..  If you're on Windows -- well, I use Cygwin and have
wget on there..  For files this big, straight browser downloads don't
seem
to do well.  wget allows you do recontinue a broken xfer (wget -c)..   I
have terrible luck with very large files with just about anything but
wget and torrent clients..

Scott

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ayer, Paul W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
> dvd1 it now says "complete".
>
> The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
> (almost the same size as before with IE)
>
> Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...
>
> The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Scott Rohling
Try wget on Linux..  If you're on Windows -- well, I use Cygwin and have
wget on there..  For files this big, straight browser downloads don't seem
to do well.  wget allows you do recontinue a broken xfer (wget -c)..   I
have terrible luck with very large files with just about anything but wget
and torrent clients..

Scott

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ayer, Paul W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
> dvd1 it now says "complete".
>
> The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
> (almost the same size as before with IE)
>
> Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...
>
> The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread David Boyes
If you are using IE 6 on Windows, this is a known bug in IE 6. IE 6
cannot handle files larger than 2G correctly. 

Upgrade your browser to IE 7 (if you must use IE) or use Firefox, or
wget. 

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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Ricardo Lee
Why don't you try using wget?

Ricardo.

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Ayer, Paul W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
> dvd1 it now says "complete".
>
> The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
> (almost the same size as before with IE)
>
> Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...
>
> The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
dvd1 it now says "complete".

The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
(almost the same size as before with IE) 

Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...

The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free 






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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Sam Bass
I have seen this myself.
Sometime HTTP does not download everything.
I used a non-Microsoft FTP client to download it.

Sam Bass
254-771-7212
Sr z/OS Systems Specialist

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From:   Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
Sent:   Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:03 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject:Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

You have something that is barfing on a 2GB file limit.

Could be your download software.
Could be the file system you are storing the data on.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> "Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/9/2008 2:15 PM >>>
Hi 

On the web page:
http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~ 

I have used the download button next to ;  

SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso4.2 GB (4514115584) 


The download completes successfully as far as my http session is
concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...

 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso


I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 


What am I doing wrong please?


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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Yes I had installed full a SLES10 SP2 and it was nice and working fine.

But the software they wanted to run on that system prereq checks for
Sp0 or sp1 and exit if not either of them... so now I said ok I can
build a sp1 or sp0 in a couple of hours done it a few times ... but it's
now been two days and I can't seem to get it going at all... no it looks
like since I use IE I'm not getting full files maybe? ...

Thanks 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:51 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

And you might just want to grab the SP2 one instead.  It is a complete
install disk replacement for the original sles10 disk.  Will save you
from having to update it later.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:22 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] can't download the compete dvd of sp10

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  3:15 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi
> 
> On the web page:
> http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~
> 
> I have used the download button next to ;
> 
> SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso  4.2 GB (4514115584) 
> 
> 
> The download completes successfully as far as my http session is 
> concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...
> 
>  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
> SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso
> 
> 
> I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 
> 
> 
> What am I doing wrong please?

Most likely, you're using Internet Explorer.  Either use a different
browser, or download it directly to your Linux system:
wget -N --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword
https://downloadurl from the download button.

I do this all the time, and it works fine.  To get the URL, right click
on the download button, and select the equivalent of "copy the link
location."  Then paste that into your SSH session on the Linux system.


Mark Post

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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
You have something that is barfing on a 2GB file limit.

Could be your download software.
Could be the file system you are storing the data on.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> "Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/9/2008 2:15 PM >>>
Hi 

On the web page:
http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~ 

I have used the download button next to ;  

SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso4.2 GB (4514115584) 


The download completes successfully as far as my http session is
concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...

 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso


I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 


What am I doing wrong please?


Paul 



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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Hi Mark,

 

>  Yup you got it always use Internet Explorer as it's the only
authorized

   browser we can use ...

 

> The Linux systems are not allowed to access the internet at this time.


  So can't do that one.

 

> I installed a firefox browser now and setup for a download. 

  It starts fine but stops at 4% and just sits there ...

 

Anything else I can try?

 

Paul

 

 

 

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:22 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

 

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  3:15 PM, in message

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer,

Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> Hi 

> 

> On the web page:

> http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~

> 

> I have used the download button next to ;  

> 

> SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso  4.2 GB (4514115584) 

> 

> 

> The download completes successfully as far as my http session is

> concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...

> 

>  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59

> SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso

> 

> 

> I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 

> 

> 

> What am I doing wrong please?

 

Most likely, you're using Internet Explorer.  Either use a different
browser, or download it directly to your Linux system:

wget -N --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword
https://downloadurl from the download button.

 

I do this all the time, and it works fine.  To get the URL, right click
on the download button, and select the equivalent of "copy the link
location."  Then paste that into your SSH session on the Linux system.

 

 

Mark Post

 

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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
And you might just want to grab the SP2 one instead.  It is a complete
install disk replacement for the original sles10 disk.  Will save you
from having to update it later.
 

Marcy  
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:22 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] can't download the compete dvd of sp10

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  3:15 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi
> 
> On the web page:
> http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~
> 
> I have used the download button next to ;
> 
> SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso  4.2 GB (4514115584) 
> 
> 
> The download completes successfully as far as my http session is 
> concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...
> 
>  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
> SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso
> 
> 
> I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 
> 
> 
> What am I doing wrong please?

Most likely, you're using Internet Explorer.  Either use a different
browser, or download it directly to your Linux system:
wget -N --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword
https://downloadurl from the download button.

I do this all the time, and it works fine.  To get the URL, right click
on the download button, and select the equivalent of "copy the link
location."  Then paste that into your SSH session on the Linux system.


Mark Post

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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  3:15 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi 
> 
> On the web page:
> http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~
> 
> I have used the download button next to ;  
> 
> SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso  4.2 GB (4514115584) 
> 
> 
> The download completes successfully as far as my http session is
> concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...
> 
>  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
> SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso
> 
> 
> I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 
> 
> 
> What am I doing wrong please?

Most likely, you're using Internet Explorer.  Either use a different browser, 
or download it directly to your Linux system:
wget -N --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword https://downloadurl 
from the download button.

I do this all the time, and it works fine.  To get the URL, right click on the 
download button, and select the equivalent of "copy the link location."  Then 
paste that into your SSH session on the Linux system.


Mark Post

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can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Hi 

On the web page:
http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~

I have used the download button next to ;  

SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso4.2 GB (4514115584) 


The download completes successfully as far as my http session is
concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...

 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso


I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 


What am I doing wrong please?


Paul 



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Re: #autoinst how to

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
 >>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  2:21 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sienicki, Paul K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
-snip-
> I downloaded the autoinst.SP2.zip
> And then extracted the gen.template and the nccreg.diff.
> Searched the manuals and how to do links and I am left cold, I think.

Links?  What kind of links, and why?

> I presumed that I load the information up onto the starter system
> NOVSTART and do yast autoyast to generate the autoinst.xml from the
> template and diff.

No.  The gen.template file is a bash script.  You execute it, and answer the 
questions.  When you're happy with all the answers you've given, it will write 
out a file named autoinst.xml.

-snip-
> But where do I put the nccreg.diff file go?

If you want your system to be automatically registered, you manually edit that 
file to put in the values for your NCC email address, your SLES registration 
code, and whether you want the optional hardware and software data sent to NCC. 
 Then, you run the patch command to apply that diff against gen.template.

> Also after generation how to I get the object installation system CLIENT
> (which is really a server) to pickup the autoinst.xml back on NOVSTART?

You have to put the generated autoinst.xml file somewhere that is accessible 
from the network.  Then, in your PARMFILE, you put in a parameter to point to 
it:
autoyast=http://ip.address/path/to/autoinst.xml
or ftp://
or nfs://
or smb://

In your case, it will be most convenient to put that in /srv/repository, since 
you don't have access to the outside network.


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Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Thanks to all who replied.

I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z:
>Yes, we do still have a version that
>supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the distributed Linux
>and Solaris space.

So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead.

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Re: #autoinst how to

2008-07-09 Thread Sienicki, Paul K
 Questions on #autoinst generator 

Ok. I know nothing. 

I downloaded the autoinst.SP2.zip
And then extracted the gen.template and the nccreg.diff.
Searched the manuals and how to do links and I am left cold, I think.

I presumed that I load the information up onto the starter system
NOVSTART and do yast autoyast to generate the autoinst.xml from the
template and diff.

But where to put the template and diff files?
Again I am presuming the gen.template goes into: 
novstart:/var/lib/autoinstall/repository/templates 

But where do I put the nccreg.diff file go?

Also after generation how to I get the object installation system CLIENT
(which is really a server) to pickup the autoinst.xml back on NOVSTART?

In other words, I have no idea how to get from point A to Z. 

Thank you 

Paul

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 >>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:11 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sienicki, Paul K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Mark,
> 
> The link below fails for me: http://linuxvm.org/Info/#autoinst.

Rats.  Sorry.

-snip-
> I am also presuming that since the Starter is SLES 10 that the system 
> being installed will be a 10 and not 10 sp2. Is that correct?

Actually, the starter system is SP1, which I didn't create a template
for.

> So I would want the second selection below?

Give the SP2 version a try.  I think you're more likely to not have a
problem.  The only difference between the two is the package selections.
Starting with SP1, and continuing with SP2 (but less so), some more
inter-package dependencies were introduced, so if you try to use the GA
version, it will get a "package resolver failure."  If the SP2 version
fails for you as well, let me know and I'll create an SP1 version.


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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Stewart Thomas J
For reference, these are what you'll be looking for in your od output:

CRLF - Carriage Return Line Feed (ASCII x'0D0A', escape sequence '\n'). Used on 
Windows (DOS) platforms.
CR- Carriage Return (ASCII x'0D', escape sequence '\r'). Early Mac, before 
it became Unix based.
LF - Line Feed (ASCII x'0A', EBCDIC x'25'). Unix and Unix-like systems 
(Linux, AIX, Mac OS X+).
NL- New Line or Next Line (EBCDIC x'15'). EBCDIC systems (IBM mainframe, 
i5/OS).

I'd be guessing the file in Unix has x'0D0A' at the end, then when it gets to 
Linux it just has x'0A'.

I believe the z/OS FTP client is expecting the data to end with x'0D0A' to 
bring it in correctly. I would recommend running a utility on the Linux side to 
change the data to the way it should be. Look at the dos2unix and unix2dos 
utilities. Or try sed with somethink like one of these:
sed  s/.$//  >   
sed  s/$/\\x0d/  >   

Good reference: http://homepage.smc.edu/morgan_david/CS41/lineterminators.htm

Other than that you'd have to look at the man pages for the sftp software you 
are using between Linux and Unix to see if there is something you can specify 
to make it  do a binary transfer.

You don't want to do a binary transfer from Linux to z/OS, or else you'll still 
have to translate the data on z/OS and strip out the end-of-line characters. Of 
course, it has lots of options for that. We do some transfers where we do 
binary FTP them to z/OS and then use the iconv and Unix System Services cp 
command to translate them and transform the end-of-line characters.


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmund R. 
MacKenty
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:02 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SFTP versus FTP

On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to
>Linux using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
>When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
>lines.
>That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
>(using "get" command).
>The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the
>file which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
>When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$"
>(end of line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
>1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process?
>(I'm assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that
>file  using SFTP without losing any characters?

You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at the values 
of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output printable ASCII 
characters as themselves, carriage-return and newline as "\r" and "\n", and 
other control characters as octal values.  For example:
od -c myfile | less

>2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use
>the file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the
>FTP-ed file).

Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin" command in 
your FTP client to do that.
- MacK.
-
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Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Henry E Schaffer
Tomasz writes:
>  I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux
> using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
> When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
> lines.
> That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS (using
> "get" command).
> The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the file
> which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
> When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end of
> line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
> 1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
> assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file using
> SFTP without losing any characters?
> 2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use the
> file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the FTP-ed
> file).

  My first guess is that this is a difference between  CR/LF and LF
terminating each line.  I think that your FTP and SFTP clients are set
to treat line termination differently.  (Something like   binary
mode.)

  To see what is actually in a file I normally go to the unix utility
od  (octal dump)  which I invoke as  od -c  to make it easier to
interpret - and it will show what is used at end-of-line  (with that
flag it will show  these
new-line  as\n
returnas\r
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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Hi

Ok exported the .iso file and got an io error when I tried to mount it.

So mounted the dvd iso file local and exported that 

Ftped the vmrdr and initred from the dvd to be sure to vm

Started the boot loader and got this message at the end ;

starting hald... ok

[/license.zip]

  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not

  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the

  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on

  the last disk(s) of this archive.

unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /license.zip or

/license.zip.zip, and cannot find /license.zip.ZIP, period.

starting syslogd (logging to /dev/tty4)... ok

starting klogd... ok

starting yast...



But was able to get a yast session and that session still failed after
analyzing the system and found not software to be install...

so.. I just deleted everything I had downloaded from Novell...

tried to down load the sles 10 sp1 but it starts and end but only
downloads 1k ... some problem there it looks like..

downloading a new copy of the sles 10 base dvd and will test with only
that now... 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:44 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: sles 10 install using nfs

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  1:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks mark I did try the dvd to and it could not be mount by got an
nfs
> error .. I'll go back to the dvd for some more tries

What kind of error?


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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/09/2008 01:00:22 PM, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
>  I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to
Linux
> using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
> When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
> lines.
> That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
(using
> "get" command).
> The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the
file
> which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
> When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end
of
> line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
> 1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
> assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file
using
> SFTP without losing any characters?
> 2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use
the
> file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the
FTP-ed
> file).
>
> Thanks
> Tomasz

It sounds like your file starts out with Windows-style line ends (CR/LF -
x'0D0A') and the SFTP code page translation is changing that to a Unix
style line end.  I have no idea how to control that.

Douglas

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Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote:
> I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux
>using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
>When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
>lines.
>That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS
> (using "get" command).
>The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the file
>which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.
>When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end of
>line character) on both files (in the same column).
>
>1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
>assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file
> using SFTP without losing any characters?

You can use the od (octal dump) command on UNIX or Linux to look at the values
of each byte in the file.  Use the -c option to output printable ASCII
characters as themselves, carriage-return and newline as "\r" and "\n", and
other control characters as octal values.  For example:
od -c myfile | less

>2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use the
>file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the FTP-ed
>file).

Transfer the file in BINARY mode instead of ASCII.  Use the "bin" command in
your FTP client to do that.
- MacK.
-
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Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Re: R_390_PC32DBL relocation msg

2008-07-09 Thread Neale Ferguson
Yep, you picked it in one.


On 7/9/08 1:46 PM, "Michael MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> What is this message telling me?
>>
>> unresolvable R_390_PC32DBL relocation against symbol `yylval'
> Sounds like a lex and yacc thing.  Just grasping at a straw here - do you
> have to link in the compiled code that is output of lex and yacc?
>
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SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM
 I have a file on Unix server.  When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux
using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size.
When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes.  The file has 79
lines.
That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS (using
"get" command).  
The file which was FTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) can be read on z/OS, the file
which was SFTP-ed (from Unix to Linux) shows only first line.  
When I used "set list" command (vi editor on Linux) - I can see "$" (end of
line character) on both files (in the same column).

1.  How can I find out which character is lost during SFTP process? (I'm
assuming that some control character is lost).  How can I get that file using
SFTP without losing any characters?
2.  Any other suggestion how to go around the problem? - I have to use the
file which was SFTP-ed from Unix to Linux on z/OS (I cannot use the FTP-ed
file). 

Thanks
Tomasz

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Re: R_390_PC32DBL relocation msg

2008-07-09 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> What is this message telling me?
>
> unresolvable R_390_PC32DBL relocation against symbol `yylval'
Sounds like a lex and yacc thing.  Just grasping at a straw here - do you
have to link in the compiled code that is output of lex and yacc?

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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  1:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Thanks mark I did try the dvd to and it could not be mount by got an nfs
> error .. I'll go back to the dvd for some more tries

What kind of error?


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R_390_PC32DBL relocation msg

2008-07-09 Thread Neale Ferguson
What is this message telling me?

unresolvable R_390_PC32DBL relocation against symbol `yylval'

nm tells me:
0004 C yylval

readelf tell me:
53: 0004 4 OBJECT  GLOBAL DEFAULT  COM yylval


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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Thanks mark I did try the dvd to and it could not be mount by got an nfs
error .. I'll go back to the dvd for some more tries

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:54 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: sles 10 install using nfs

>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  6:21 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Good morning,
> 
> I am trying to create a new system sles 10 sp0 (tried sp1 also).
> 
> The install keeps failing at the point where it evaluates the package
> selection and then says;
> 
> 
> 'No catalog found at 'nfs:192.168.127.22/exports/CD1'
> 
> 
> I have tried many ways to take the .iso files and create the proper
nfs
> mounted file system but can not seem to get it.
> 
> Does anyone have the steps to take the .iso files and merge them so
that
> the yast installer will "see" CD's 2-4 ?

It's called "download the DVD .iso file instead."  Anything else would
just cause more problems.  Alternatively, if you're running z/VM,
download the starter system and use that for your install server.

You might find some hints in /var/log/YaST2/* as to what the installer
is trying to locate, and not finding.  This is the main reason I prefer
to use http installs instead of NFS.  On the server side, I can see
exactly what is being requested, and what's not working.


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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  6:21 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Good morning,
> 
> I am trying to create a new system sles 10 sp0 (tried sp1 also).
> 
> The install keeps failing at the point where it evaluates the package
> selection and then says;
> 
> 
> 'No catalog found at 'nfs:192.168.127.22/exports/CD1'
> 
> 
> I have tried many ways to take the .iso files and create the proper nfs
> mounted file system but can not seem to get it.
> 
> Does anyone have the steps to take the .iso files and merge them so that
> the yast installer will "see" CD's 2-4 ?

It's called "download the DVD .iso file instead."  Anything else would just 
cause more problems.  Alternatively, if you're running z/VM, download the 
starter system and use that for your install server.

You might find some hints in /var/log/YaST2/* as to what the installer is 
trying to locate, and not finding.  This is the main reason I prefer to use 
http installs instead of NFS.  On the server side, I can see exactly what is 
being requested, and what's not working.


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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Hi Alan,

I had tried many things.

One other thing.

The nfs side is red hat ..

So at one point I exported the directory that has the .iso files
and on the yast side it could not even start ..

So now I have created the export director and then mounted the four iso
files one by one then copied each to a dir CD1 CD2 CD3 CD4 

told yast to use CD1 then it finds it and starts then after formatting
disks
and such it says it gets to the installation step and finds not software
to install ... 



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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:22 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: sles 10 install using nfs

My equivalent of your exports directory contains these:

SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD2.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD3.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD4.iso

In the installer I specify the path to SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso and it
finds the others somehow.

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Ayer, Paul W
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:22 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: sles 10 install using nfs


Good morning,

I am trying to create a new system sles 10 sp0 (tried sp1 also).

The install keeps failing at the point where it evaluates the package
selection and then says;


'No catalog found at 'nfs:192.168.127.22/exports/CD1'


I have tried many ways to take the .iso files and create the proper nfs
mounted file system but can not seem to get it.

Does anyone have the steps to take the .iso files and merge them so that
the yast installer will "see" CD's 2-4 ?

Thanks,


Paul 



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Re: sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Fargusson.Alan
My equivalent of your exports directory contains these:

SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD2.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD3.iso
SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD4.iso

In the installer I specify the path to SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso and it finds 
the others somehow.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:22 AM
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Subject: sles 10 install using nfs


Good morning,

I am trying to create a new system sles 10 sp0 (tried sp1 also).

The install keeps failing at the point where it evaluates the package
selection and then says;


'No catalog found at 'nfs:192.168.127.22/exports/CD1'


I have tried many ways to take the .iso files and create the proper nfs
mounted file system but can not seem to get it.

Does anyone have the steps to take the .iso files and merge them so that
the yast installer will "see" CD's 2-4 ?

Thanks,


Paul 



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sles 10 install using nfs

2008-07-09 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Good morning,

I am trying to create a new system sles 10 sp0 (tried sp1 also).

The install keeps failing at the point where it evaluates the package
selection and then says;


'No catalog found at 'nfs:192.168.127.22/exports/CD1'


I have tried many ways to take the .iso files and create the proper nfs
mounted file system but can not seem to get it.

Does anyone have the steps to take the .iso files and merge them so that
the yast installer will "see" CD's 2-4 ?

Thanks,


Paul 



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