Re: SAN questions

2011-07-14 Thread Craig Collins
We have used direct connect SAN disk with NPIV and currently our production
servers use that method for the data lun whereas the boot and root are
minidisks on EDEV SAN disk.  Our initial implementations were all direct
connect SAN disk using NPIV.  We are transitioning to all EDEV over the next
month as we are satisfied it performs as well as we need and it buys us the
more simple multipathing and disaster recovery definitions in VM instead of
making definitions within linux for each guest.  We have never used standard
CKD. We do not have IBM SVC (EMC DMX3  VMAX with Cisco switches).

For monitoring the storage definitions we use Velocity to report on the
disk.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ron Wells ron.we...@slfs.com wrote:

 sure would



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 Date:   07/14/2011 01:18 PM
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 gang --

 To those using SAN with Linux-on-z,
 are you using direct guest in the fabric (dedicated FCPs,
 where Linux sees the storage)?  How do you keep track of storage?
 Is there an SVC in the mix?  What do you like about it?  (or dislike)
 Are you using EDEV?  Why or why not?

 I plan to update my SAN for z/VM (and zLinux) presentation for
 the workshop.  Would like to hear some current tails and terrors.

 Thanks.

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Re: LVM on CKD?

2011-06-09 Thread Craig Collins
Thank you everyone for your confirmation and instructions.  It threw off our
Linux Support person when YaSt wouldn't keep the LVM option on the disk as
he was doing the install.  Following the suggestions we were able to
configure it and it is working now.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Ayer, Paul W pwa...@statestreet.com wrote:

 I find that fdasd /dev/dasd_ shows Linux Native for a dasdfmt disks
 and it shows Linux LVM LVM after you do a pvcreate command to the disk.



 Using p to look at the partitions and q to not change them ...

 Command action
   m   print this menu
   p   print the partition table
   n   add a new partition
   d   delete a partition
   v   change volume serial
   t   change partition type
   r   re-create VTOC and delete all partitions
   u   re-create VTOC re-using existing partition sizes
   s   show mapping (partition number - data set name)
   q   quit without saving changes
   w   write table to disk and exit



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 Subject: Re: LVM on CKD?

 On Thu, Jun 9th, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Mark Post wrote:

  To be honest, I don't think LVM itself cares about the partition type.
  pvcreate will use any partition you point it at.

 This is unfortunately (almost unbelievably) true - with the notable
 exception
 of swap. Regardless of the partition type of a swap extent, pvcreate
 recognises the swap header and will query you before trashing it.
 Any other partition type - including those with valid filesystems and data
 -
 will be fair game.

 Shane ...
 (N.B. - not (re-)verified on z/)

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LVM on CKD?

2011-06-08 Thread Craig Collins
Is anyone using an LVM configuration with CKD or EDEV devices?  We're trying
to install SLES11 SP1 on EDEVs and wanted to setup a data LUN using LVM but
YaSt keeps changing the type to native linux when we set it to LVM.  Not
sure if we are doing something wrong or LVM is not supported on these types
of devices.

Craig Collins
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Re: rescue mode

2011-06-01 Thread Craig Collins
We run the install exec again for the server to get linux up and then putty
into it.  Just make sure you don't have any sort of automated install setup
for it otherwise you will reinstall the operating system.  We don't use the
SLES 11 AUTOINST parameter so we don't run into that issue.  You'll need to
sign into the server on the ip address listed in the install parameters
using the userid and password listed in the parameters.  Once in, you will
need to mount the server's disk in order to do any updates.  Shut it down
and reboot when done.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Mauro Souza thoriu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some
 disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only
 rescue mode.

 If I am right, you can do this:

 *mount -o remount,rw /*
 *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab  /etc/fstab.1*
 *cat /etc/fstab.1*

 if the new fstab is fine, do this:
 *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab*
 *reboot*

 Mauro
 http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God.


 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard
 richard.te...@doit.nh.govwrote:

  Hello,
 
 
 
  How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit
  the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the
  following but getting an error...
 
 
 
 
 
  CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE
 
 
 
 
 
  Best Regards
 
 
 
  Richard Testa
  OIT-Operation
  Unix Systems Administrator
  NH Department of Information Technology
  603-271-5460 (w)   603-235-2659 (c)
  www.nh.gov/doit
 
 
 
 
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Re: Storage Options

2011-05-12 Thread Craig Collins
We are using or have used McData 3232, McData i10k, and Cisco 9513 switches
for zSeries Fiber Channel connectivity to our SAN storage.  We have used
these to communicate with EMC Clariion, DMX3, VMAX, and HDS TagmaStore disk
subsystems.

Currently we are using the Cisco 9513 switches with EMC VMAX for the zLinux
and z/VM disk LUN connectivity.  We use NPIV and have some of the LUNs
defined directly in the zLinux guests as FBA devices and others defined as
EDEVs in z/VM which we then assign to the zLinux guests as minidisks.  For
ease of definition related to disaster recovery scenarios we have decided to
migrate all of our servers over time to using the EDEV minidisks, knowing
that there could be performance implications but our IO rates are low enough
that we are not concerned.

Just to clarify, there is no FICON involved in these connections as they are
all Fiber Channel.  The zSeries channels can be used for native FC or FICON
connections.  If you want to use NPIV, which I highly recommend, then you
need to set the NPIV on for each LPAR where you are using it through the HMC
with the channel offline to all LPARs.

Craig Collins
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On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Davey, Clair cda...@scspa.com wrote:

 What model of switches are people using for Ficon to Fiber Channel
 connectivity to your SANS?

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Re: FBA/SCSI vs ECKD zLinux on VM

2011-03-11 Thread Craig Collins
I'd recommend you also look at using Emulated FBA devices as long as you are
considering alternatives.  They are defined as EDEVs under z/VM.  when you
compare the options.  Know that the largest size devices is around 300 GB,
I've forgotten the exact size.  It's an option to be aware of for a number
of reasons including multipathing and disaster recovery, if you need those,
without the requirements that disk be defined as CKD.  As already stated by
Christian Paro, recognize the performance aspects between all of the options
and the requirements of your workloads.

We currently use EDEV FBA devices for boot/root/swap and linux server
managed FBA/SCSI for data LUNs, but continue to think about moving it all to
EDEV FBA definitions.

Craig Collins
State of WI

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Christian Paro
christian.p...@gmail.comwrote:

 A full set of benchmarks for different disk technologies with z/VM:

 http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/reports/zvm/html/520dasd.html

 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I currently have a dozen or so RHEL 5.6 zLinux running on multiple VM 6.1
  (well, 5, but 6.1 RSN), on z10 processors.
 
  The largest (disk space) is about 3TB and is currently FBA/SCSI
 
  We're thinking of changing this to ECKD to take advantage of the SAP to
 do
  the real IO, instead of IO being handled within zLinux itself.
 
  (We have other zLinux system using ECKD)
 
  On one hand using ECKD will get us some CPU cycles back due to more work
  being done by the SAP, but just recenly I heard that IO can be faster
  (higher throughput) with FBA/SCSI.
 
  I'm assuming there's no clear answer as to which is best, because like so
  many performance tuning things, the answer is always it depends.
 
  But, what are other people doing? My experience so far seems to be that
 the
  choice of SCSI or ECKD depends on the background of the people making the
  decision people with a s390 background are familiar with ECKD, people
  coming from a unix/linux background are familiar with SCSI..
 
  Thank you
 
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Re: TSM server

2011-03-09 Thread Craig Collins
Yes, we actually worked with our account team from IBM and they brought in
some of the IBM experts to help us take a closer look at this.  It was
determined that the additional memory was needed due to the database change
between the two versions.  Given enough memory, I think it would work fine.
 We decided the best alternative for us was to move it off of zSeries, that
it wasn't the best fit for z/Linux.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote:

 On Tuesday, 03/08/2011 at 08:51 EST, Craig Collins grizl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  We were using zLinux to host TSM servers with TSM release 5.5 and were
 happy
  with performance and memory consumption.  We backed-up 100s of servers a
  night using a z10 processor with multiple IFLs.  Once we upgraded to TSM
  6.1, the memory consumption became prohibitive (8+ GB).  We kept
 increasing
  the memory allocations and even after going through all of the DB2
  performance tuning parameters for TSM 6.1, we could no longer justify
 the
  additional memory cost as compared to stand alone servers for TSM 6.1 so
 we
  have moved TSM off of zLinux.

 When you observe this sort of behavior, be certain to open a PMR with the
 application owner (TSM in this case) and bring your account team or
 business partner into the loop.

 Alan Altmark

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Re: TSM server

2011-03-08 Thread Craig Collins
We were using zLinux to host TSM servers with TSM release 5.5 and were happy
with performance and memory consumption.  We backed-up 100s of servers a
night using a z10 processor with multiple IFLs.  Once we upgraded to TSM
6.1, the memory consumption became prohibitive (8+ GB).  We kept increasing
the memory allocations and even after going through all of the DB2
performance tuning parameters for TSM 6.1, we could no longer justify the
additional memory cost as compared to stand alone servers for TSM 6.1 so we
have moved TSM off of zLinux.

Craig Collins
State of WI

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Melancon, Ruddy
melanc...@dot.state.al.uswrote:

 We are in the process of bringing up a Tivoli Storage Manager [TSM] server
 using zLinux [SLES11] under zVM [6.2].  We are going to use the IBM7650G
 with XIV back end storage to provide Virtual Tape.  The idea is to backup
 intel servers directly to tape then replicate to remote DR site.

 We have run into problems with memory allocations.  We were using 2GB
 memory with 750MB of swap space in vdev.  We started getting sql errors with
 the indication that it was a memory or swap space issue.  I have increased
 the memory to 3GB and now the image will only allow us to run 11 TSM
 processes before getting errors.  This will not be good for production.

 I will increase this to 4 GB memory with 2GB of swap space to see what
 happens.

 Does anyone have experience and/or recommendations as to the correct
 settings for memory allocations?

 Ruddy A. Melancon
 IT Systems Specialist, Senior
 Alabama Department of Transportation
 334-353-6323

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Re: EDEV FBA disks and Cloning

2011-03-03 Thread Craig Collins
We created the golden image server on EDEV FBA disk as well so our clone is
from EDEV FBA to EDEV FBA.  I presume if we are using the CMS FORMAT/RESERVE
sequence we should do so for the source golden image build as well as the
clone system before copying.  When we tried using dd to clone, I watched the
VM console for the server and there are many block errors during the copies.
 This was before we rebuilt using the FORMAT/RESERVE.  I'm going to try that
next.  We'll rebuild the golden image after formatting the disk with that
method and then try the clone again.

I'll update with results when we complete that work.

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Re: EDEV FBA disks and Cloning

2011-03-03 Thread Craig Collins
1. rebuilt the golden image, preparing the disk with CMS FORMAT  RESERVE on
EDEV FBA mini-disks
2. prepared the clone system disk with CMS FORMAT  RESERVE on EDEV FBA
mini-disks
3. Altered the clonerw.sh script so that it recognized the disk as FBA
instead of CKD to get the device names and deleted the format section of the
script.
4. ran the clonerw.sh script and through the ssh session, it gave no error
messages, however on the VM guest console we received many iterations of the
following messages for each device during the dd copy command executions:
Buffer I/O error on device dasdc, logical block 4547
lost page write due to I/O error on dasdc
end_request: I/O error, dev dasdc, sector 36400
Mar  3 08:28:14 S11CLONE kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev dasdc, sector
77016
5. tried booting the clone but expected failure due to I/O errors and as
expected the boot failed
6. Under CMS, used DDR to copy each of the EDEV FBA disks from the golden
image to the clone
7. Clone server booted without issue.  Working on some parts of
boot.findself script to set the ifcfg-eth0 ip address that don't appear to
be working, but the server came up without an error.

So, we have a method to make the clone, but the clonerw.sh script doesn't
seem to work with this disk without further modifications that we can't
figure out at this point.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:

  On 3/2/2011 at 03:47 PM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote:
  There is a lot of confusion about 'dasdfmt' versus 'mkfs'.  If you
  already know the difference, please excuse this note.

 Rick,

 Do me a favor and stick this out on the wiki (after editing it a bit for
 style).  I think this would be useful for others that might trip across it
 and don't know about this listserve.


 Mark Post

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Re: EDEV FBA disks and Cloning

2011-03-03 Thread Craig Collins
the script does have the sync command executing after the copy with dd
completes

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Re: EDEV FBA disks and Cloning

2011-03-03 Thread Craig Collins
FYI - the problem we were having with the boot.findself script had to do
with upper/lower case matching issues when the script interrogated the
sles11 parameter files searching for the source and destination server names
and ip addresses.  So, the script worked fine once we matched the cases to
what the script expected as it scanned the parameters.

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EDEV FBA disks and Cloning

2011-03-02 Thread Craig Collins
We're walking through the IBM doc Sharing and Maintaining SLES11 Linux
under z/VM using DCSSs and an NSS but using EDEV FBA devices instead of
native CKD devices.  We've move to the point where we are making our first
cloned copy and are running into issues.

The original script identifies the CKD disk mount points, then uses
'dasdfmt' to format the destination CKD devices and 'dd' to do a block copy
from the source to the destination devices.  We've altered the script to
identify the FBA devices, format them with 'mkfs' and then use the 'dd' to
perform the block copy.  When we try to boot the cloned copy, we don't even
get the boot menu, it just fails with HCPGIR453W CP entered; program
interrupt loop.

If we copy the devices from within CMS using DDR, the destination server
boots successfully following the copy.

Does anyone successfully clone servers using scripts run from within a
running linux clone server for EDEV FBA devices?

I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has used EDEV FBA devices
to generate sles11 servers which share read-only portions of the boot  root
partitions without DCSS  NSS related to what they segment off for each
server to use read-write locally.  We think that's more likely the scenario
we would want to go with, but we are walking through the above named
document to get familiar with that method as a possibility.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET

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Autoyast SWAPGEN SLES11

2010-03-05 Thread Craig Collins
We're in the processes of testing out using the autoyast facility to build
repeatable linux servers.  We built a SLES11 server through the normal
install process, customized it, and then produced the autoyast.xml file for
use with building replica systems.  However we are having a hard time
figuring out how to modify the autoyast.xml file to account for the virtual
swap disk built with SWAPGEN.  Has someone already been through this
process, and if so would you share the modifications required so we don't
need to reinvent the wheel. It appears that the generated autoyast.xml is
trying to format the SWAPGEN created disk and that is causing the install
process to abend.

Thanks,
Craig Collins
State of WI

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OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Craig Collins
We are just starting to use OSA-Express3 10 Gb ports for SLES10-SP2 Linux
guests.  We're trying to use these with TSM servers running on SLES10 to
backup other non-zSeries servers in our environment.  We are using the 10 Gb
OSAs connected to VSWITCHes in zVM 5.4.  Currently we have only one SLES10
TSM server connected to a VSWITCH that is the only thing connected to a 10
Gb OSA and are seeing throughput of less than 1 Gb/s.  The Cisco switch the
OSA port is connected to recognizes the speed as 10 Gb.  The TSM server and
all of the servers it is backing up are on the same subnet and there is no
firewall involved.

Thanks to linuxvm.org, we found Share presentation 2192 by Mario Held from
August 2009 named Linux on System z Performance Update - Part 2: Networking
and Crypto which we found helpful and we have altered some of our settings
based upon the recommendations.  We also have been over the OSA and Vswitch
documentation from IBM looking for any speed settings related to this type
of OSA card, a VSWITCH, or a nic definition for a linux guest on zVM, but
did not find anything.

We still are not getting throughput we expect (or maybe desire).  We
wondered if a nic setting in SLES10 could be keeping the connection from
getting above the 1 Gb/s mark, but cannot find a parameter to change as the
normal parameters with ethtool don't seem to apply in this environment.

Is anyone else using a 10 Gb OSA through a VSWITCH and getting throughput
greater than 1 Gb for a single server instance?  If so, are there any
settings you needed to change to get to that performance level?  Or is there
a maximum of around 1 Gb that a single server instance can achieve?  We're
grasping at straws at this point.  Any ideas are appreciated.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET

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Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Craig Collins
The other thing we will need to do is set the vlanid since we wont be doing
that through the vswitch as we have been up until now.  We found the command
to do that against the nic definition, which is what I am guessing we will
need to do after everything is setup with the bonding.

Thanks for the info and the quick responses.

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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

2009-04-14 Thread Craig Collins
Mark, thanks for the tip about having both SSH and VNC available.  I pulled
the following from the end of the y2log.  We've also opened an issue with
Novell.

2009-04-14 08:14:12 1 ZVMTST21(2784) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:1930
Downloading ftp://s...@xx.xx.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/media.1/media to
/var/adm/mount/AP_0x0001/media.1/media
2009-04-14 08:14:12 1 ZVMTST21(2784) [YCP] URL.ycp:322 Escaped username
'sles' = 'sles'
2009-04-14 08:14:12 1 ZVMTST21(2784) [YCP] Progress.ycp:587 Resetting the
subprogressbar...
2009-04-14 08:14:12 3 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp]
MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1284 curl error: 18: transfer closed with 62
bytes remaining to read, temp file size 0 byte.
2009-04-14 08:14:12 1 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] PathInfo.cc(_Log_Result):292
unlink /var/adm/mount/AP_0x0001/media.1/media.new.zypp.w9kXm4
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133
MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1401 THROW:MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1401:
Download (curl) error for 'ftp://sles
@xx.xx.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/media.1/media':
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133 Error
code: Unrecognized error
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133 Error
message: transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to read
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133
MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1406 RETHROW:  MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1401:
Download (curl) error for 'ftp://sles
@xx.xx.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/media.1/media':
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133 Error
code: Unrecognized error
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133 Error
message: transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to read
2009-04-14 08:14:12 5 ZVMTST21(2784) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):133

We'll see what turns up.

Craig Collins
State of WI

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SLES 11 Install Issue

2009-04-13 Thread Craig Collins
Using these parameters:ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc
TERM=dumb
Hostname= Gateway=yy.yy.199.1
HostIP=yy.yy.199.21 Nameserver=none
InstNetDev=osa Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=yy.yy.199.255
OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Layer2=0
ReadChannel=0.0.a100 WriteChannel=0.0.a101 DataChannel=0.0.a102
Portname=DEFNIC Install=ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1
linuxrcstderr=/dev/console
UseSSH=1 SSHPassword=password username=root password=pass123

We are getting the error:
eth0 activated
hostip: yy.yy.199.21
gateway: yy.yy.199.1
loading ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/content - /content
error 9: Server denied you to change to the given directory

When I look at the directory yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1 I do find a
file named content but not a directory, which it appears the install is
searching for.  Has anyone run across this or do you have any suggestions?

Craig Collins
State of Wisconsin

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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

2009-04-13 Thread Craig Collins
Actually, specifying the userid  password as part of the ftp specification
got us past that problem.  We're using the base ftp service that comes with
redhat 5 that we also used to serve up sles10 without specifying the userid
and password on the ftp parm itself.  So it appears to be reacting
differently between sles10  sles11.
Now, we are receiving an error after starting the install through yast using
vnc that the sles11/DVD1/media.1/media failed, unrecognizable error,
transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to be read.  I'm wondering if we
should download the media again from Novell.  Maybe our copy is
incomplete/corrupt.

Craig Collins
State of WIsconsin


On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:

  On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
  They have changed the format of the install paramters.

 I don't believe so.

  Use
  Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root

 That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
 non-anonymous access) has worked for me.


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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

2009-04-13 Thread Craig Collins
We downloaded the media again and re-deployed it on the ftp server, but we
still received the media failure error.  Any ideas?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Craig Collins grizl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, specifying the userid  password as part of the ftp specification
 got us past that problem.  We're using the base ftp service that comes with
 redhat 5 that we also used to serve up sles10 without specifying the userid
 and password on the ftp parm itself.  So it appears to be reacting
 differently between sles10  sles11.
 Now, we are receiving an error after starting the install through yast
 using vnc that the sles11/DVD1/media.1/media failed, unrecognizable error,
 transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to be read.  I'm wondering if we
 should download the media again from Novell.  Maybe our copy is
 incomplete/corrupt.

 Craig Collins
 State of WIsconsin


 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:

  On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
  They have changed the format of the install paramters.

 I don't believe so.

  Use
  Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root

 That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
 non-anonymous access) has worked for me.


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Re: Cloning FCP-only Linuxes

2009-01-07 Thread Craig Collins
Yes, we've cloned FCP-only NPIV SLES 10 zLinux systems and have a set of
procedures we've written to do so.  They are a little raw but I would be
willing to share them with you.  Drop me a direct email if you want a copy.

Craig Collins
State of WI, DOA, DET
craig.coll...@wi.gov

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT) 
john.romanow...@oft.state.ny.us wrote:

 I've cloned a lot of non-NPIV, FCP-only SLES 9 and 10's.

 It's more work than cloning dasd mainly due to the LUN numbers, their
 wwpn's and serial numbers being absolute and not static virtual values
 like mdisk addresses. The golden image's LUN values are in various files
 and have to be changed on the new LUN to the new LUN's values after
 cloning.

  Also, set the new guest's LOADDEV wwpn and LUN number in its CP
 directory definition.

 
 
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Re: z/Linux cloning

2008-08-28 Thread Craig Collins
Is anyone doing cloning of FCP LUNs under SLES10 SP2, not minidisks?  We're
looking at how we might clone our systems which are all using FCP for all of
the LUNs.  The virtualizaiton cookbooks all refer to using DDR and
minidisks.  We figure if we can work out a good way to copy the partitions
from golden image LUN to clone image LUN, we can work through the rest of
the script to make the necessary alterations to the guest.  We're trying to
stay away from subsystem provided flashcopy type functions due to licensing
costs.

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Re: Synchronous remote copy FCP disk and DR

2008-07-21 Thread Craig Collins
Yes, we run mkintrd each time before zipl.  But the zipl wouldn't work
properly because the zipl.conf was not correct, nor was the boot directory
built properly.

Based upon our tests, when we selected by-uuid, the install process would
not properly build the zipl.conf or the entire boot directory.  We tried
this a couple of times to ensure it wasn't just operator error and a missed
parameter setting during the boot.

So, we went on to the next option of re-installing and setting the disk
mapping to be by-name.  This time it built the zipl.conf and boot directory
structure properly, just like when we took the default setting of by-path.

We were then able to use this new configuration to boot from either instance
of our FCP connected LUN on either our production storage subsystem or
through the disaster recovery storage subsystem (synchronous remote copy
pair, split for boot test), and get the proper mount points built.

Now we just need to figure out if there is a way to alter our previously
installed production guests to utilize the by-name setting instead of the
by-path setting in order to be ready for a DR situation.  We'd rather not
need to reinstall for those guests.



On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Craig
 Collins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We tried the cms console command and the tried setting up our fstab and
  zipl.conf using the by-uuid definitions and still it appears to be
 looking
  for the by-id definition during boot and so it is still tied to the
 physical
  device serial number.

 Did you re-run mkinitrd before zipl?


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Synchronous remote copy FCP disk and DR

2008-06-23 Thread Craig Collins
We're wondering if anyone has any experience with disaster recovery of the
zLinux guests when using FCP disk.  For a variety of reasons, we chose to
use the NPIV FCP disk instead of CKD for our Linux guests, including boot
LUNs.  The disk is synchronously remote copied between data centers.

As part of our disaster recovery planning, we started to think about being
able to boot off of the mirrored copy of the LUNs.  When we built our guest
to test DR with, we make both the primary LUNs and what will be the remote
copy LUNs active to the guest and define them within Linux.  We then made
the remote copy LUNs unavailable to the guest by synchronizing the primary
and remote copy LUNs.  We made updates, shutdown the guest, split the disk,
changed the switch zoning so that the primary disk was unavailable and only
the disaster recovery disk was detected.

It appears that the fstab entries, zipl.conf, bootmapper, and likely other
configuration items, use the subsystem serial number as part of the
identification for the partitions on the FCP disk in SLES10.

Since the serial number for the remote subsystem is different from the
primary, when we split the pair and try to boot from the remote disk, the
intial boot process starts but we eventually get 'Waiting for device
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-x-part4 to appear:' and
this references the boot LUN on the primary disk.  It exits to the shell at
that point.

If anyone else has already gone through this and knows all of the
configuration items we need to update to make this work, we would appreciate
the information so we don't have to reinvent the wheel.  If not, we'll keep
working through this and share what we figure out with the list if anyone is
interested.

Craig Collins
State of WI

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Re: zFCP Disk

2008-02-08 Thread Craig Collins
We did get it to work.  Not exactly with the steps listed since yast would
not complete the define since the LUN didn't work on the storage.  We had
given up since EMC said they hadn't heard of it being done and that the NPIV
may not work.  But, knowing someone else was successful and how they
remembered doing it gave us renewed energy to work through it again.  Thank
You for the help.  We can now put some more old storage to use.

Craig Collins
State of WI

On Feb 6, 2008 3:08 PM, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The Clarion requires you to have accessed the storage subsystem itself
 before the work can be done (I'm not a storage guy -- especially not
 mid-range) and I was just listing for Craig the steps we had to go
 through as the Clarion is different to the DMX's.  I am now accessing
 the Clarion successfully (but haven't rebooted to confirm it is all
 still there !)

 Jerry Whitteridge
 Safeway Inc
 925 951 4184


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  Behalf Of George Kuch
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  To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
  Subject: Re: zFCP Disk
 
  Have you confirmed that the NPIV ports are in the same fabric
  zone as the
  clariion ?
 
 
  Regards,
 
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  zSeries zFCP Firmware Development
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 845-435-6806, t/l 295-6806

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Re: zFCP Disk

2008-02-08 Thread Craig Collins
Sorry, should have written  . . . since yast would not complete the define
since the LUN was not provisioned on the storage.

On Feb 8, 2008 11:25 AM, Craig Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We did get it to work.  Not exactly with the steps listed since yast would
 not complete the define since the LUN didn't work on the storage.  We had
 given up since EMC said they hadn't heard of it being done and that the NPIV
 may not work.  But, knowing someone else was successful and how they
 remembered doing it gave us renewed energy to work through it again.  Thank
 You for the help.  We can now put some more old storage to use.

 Craig Collins
 State of WI

 On Feb 6, 2008 3:08 PM, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  The Clarion requires you to have accessed the storage subsystem itself
  before the work can be done (I'm not a storage guy -- especially not
  mid-range) and I was just listing for Craig the steps we had to go
  through as the Clarion is different to the DMX's.  I am now accessing
  the Clarion successfully (but haven't rebooted to confirm it is all
  still there !)
 
  Jerry Whitteridge
  Safeway Inc
  925 951 4184
 
 
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   Behalf Of George Kuch
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:03 PM
   To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
   Subject: Re: zFCP Disk
  
   Have you confirmed that the NPIV ports are in the same fabric
   zone as the
   clariion ?
  
  
   Regards,
  
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Peoplesoft/Oracle on SUSE Linux under zSeries

2008-02-08 Thread Craig Collins
We are considering running the Oracle databases for a Peoplesoft
implementation on SUSE guests running under zVM.  If anyone is doing it
today we'd like to know as validation of this option.  Also, we've been told
that even if we get that to work the other pieces of the Peoplesoft
implementation will need to go on non-zSeries distributed systems servers
and are wondering if anyone has implemented the actual application code and
interfaces on zSeries Linux guests.

Some people in our organization are concerned that none of this can be done
and if someone is doing it already it helps us validate it is an option
which should be considered.  Thanks in advance for any information.

Craig Collins
State of WI

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Re: zFCP Disk

2008-02-06 Thread Craig Collins
We had given up on trying to get the EMC Clariion provisioned to SLES10
using NPIV.  The NPIV id for the linux guest is logged into the switch and
is provisioned to EMC DMX3 storage, so we know the connection to the switch
is working.  On the Clariion side we can't provision for the NPIV
connection, as if the NPIV id was not logged into the switch.

So, are you using NPIV with the connections to the EMC Clariion and if so,
do you have any other tips from your experience that might help us get this
to work?

Craig Collins
State of WI

On Feb 1, 2008 2:35 PM, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Much of the doc out there is for earlier releases (I'm running SLES10)
 and there is no real step by step information out there to add FCP to an
 existing Linux Virtual Server.
 The FCP Redbooks and NPIV Redbooks make some sign cant assumptions on
 the level of knowledge  that we have. So for example:

 I'm attaching to a EMC Clarion in my test environment.
  I had to sign into the switch before they could finish the masking, but
 when using yast it insisted on knowing ALL the details of the FCP
 connection before I could proceed. By experimentation I found that if I
 used the zfcp_host_configure command to set the VM device on line it
 signed me in and out of the switch.

 Then there was more time spent trying to find commands to show what I
 could see and where they were all located. Some of the things I came
 across like san_disc  showed up but with no examples to go by I couldn't
 work out what it was asking for or the appropriate entries.  Other
 commands I came across like lsscsi, lszfcp are mentioned in differing
 presentations scattered around the web.

 If this mailing list and the z/VM one did not exist my project would
 have failed totally.

 (Thank you ALL !)

 Jerry Whitteridge
 Safeway Inc
 925 951 4184


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   I was able to get multipathing working, I believe, using DM-MPIO.
   My challenge is getting LVM2 working in a multipath
  environment.  The
   /etc/multipath.conf and /etc/lvm/lvm.conf files have to be
  configured
   correctly.
   Anybody out there doing this?
 
  Yes, a number of people have done it, and there's some decent
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NPIV FCP connections through Multiple FC Switches

2007-09-06 Thread Craig Collins
We're running into a configuration issue trying to get NPIV FCP connections
to work through a switched fabric distributed across two locations.  At our
primary location, the z9 FCP is connected into Switch #1, a McData 3232
switch.  We have EMC DMX3 storage connected to Switch #1 as well and are
able to get the NPIV id logged onto the fabric, provisioned, and connecting
to the storage without a problem.  We have Linux guests booting off of the
SAN and are not using 3390 disk for them.  We setup the switch binding and
added the WWPN of the z9 port as a detached node on switch #1 to get this to
work.  That's the good news.

The problem we are having is getting the NPIV id logged into our backup
location DMX3 which is connected to Switch #2, another McData 3232 switch
ISL'd to Switch #1.  We thought we had a setting incorrect on the switches
so that the traffic is not making it all the way to the second DMX3, however
when we use the SCSIDISC utility under VM against the device which
corresponds to the NPIV id, it actually detects the storage port on the DMX3
but the DMX3 shows that we are not logged into the storage port with the
NPIV.  We've tried multiple settings on the switches to get this connected,
but without any success.  We have the NPIV and Switch Binding features
active on both McData 3232 switches even though I believe we only need NPIV
on the switch that the z9 port physically connects to.

Has anyone else done this and do you have suggestions as to settings we
should look at?

Craig Collins
State of Wisconsin

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Re: NPIV FCP connections through Multiple FC Switches

2007-09-06 Thread Craig Collins
We stumbled across the answer and wanted to document it here in case someone
else runs into this problem in the future.  The physical port on the z9 had
to be added to the zone definition on the switches before we could get it to
log into the remote storage through the remote switch.  The z9 WWPN did not
need to be in the zone definition if only the local switch was used.

Craig Collins
State of Wisconsin

On 9/6/07, Craig Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We're running into a configuration issue trying to get NPIV FCP
 connections to work through a switched fabric distributed across two
 locations.  At our primary location, the z9 FCP is connected into Switch #1,
 a McData 3232 switch.  We have EMC DMX3 storage connected to Switch #1 as
 well and are able to get the NPIV id logged onto the fabric, provisioned,
 and connecting to the storage without a problem.  We have Linux guests
 booting off of the SAN and are not using 3390 disk for them.  We setup the
 switch binding and added the WWPN of the z9 port as a detached node on
 switch #1 to get this to work.  That's the good news.

 The problem we are having is getting the NPIV id logged into our backup
 location DMX3 which is connected to Switch #2, another McData 3232 switch
 ISL'd to Switch #1.  We thought we had a setting incorrect on the switches
 so that the traffic is not making it all the way to the second DMX3, however
 when we use the SCSIDISC utility under VM against the device which
 corresponds to the NPIV id, it actually detects the storage port on the DMX3
 but the DMX3 shows that we are not logged into the storage port with the
 NPIV.  We've tried multiple settings on the switches to get this connected,
 but without any success.  We have the NPIV and Switch Binding features
 active on both McData 3232 switches even though I believe we only need NPIV
 on the switch that the z9 port physically connects to.

 Has anyone else done this and do you have suggestions as to settings we
 should look at?

 Craig Collins
 State of Wisconsin



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