Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-13 Thread Scott Courtney
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 10:46 am, Nix, Robert P. wrote:
> I just tried it on my SuSE, and I get the "extra arguments" error as well.
>
> rpm -q "ssh"
>
> works, as does
>
> rpm -qa

Because some packages have mixed case names, I often use something like this:

   rpm -qa | grep -i ssh

That would find, for example, a package named SSH-2.3.0-s390 as well as one
with the lower case ssh in its name. There are quite a few packages on Linux
that use mixed case names, so lower case isn't always a valid assumption. And
the common name of the program isn't always the same case as the package name.
(For example, CUPS and SSH have package names containing "cups" and "ssh".)

Scott

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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-13 Thread Nix, Robert P.
I just tried it on my SuSE, and I get the "extra arguments" error as well.

rpm -q "ssh"

works, as does

rpm -qa


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> -Original Message-
> From: John Summerfield [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:39 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > >> try this
> > >> rpm -qa | grep ssh
> >
> > >or in one command,
> > >rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> >
> >  # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> > rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages
>
> Odd. I see you quoted it too.
> [summer@orange summer]$ rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> openssh-server-3.4p1-2
> openssh-clients-3.4p1-2
> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.4p1-2
> kdessh-3.0.3-3
> openssh-3.4p1-2
> openssh-askpass-3.4p1-2
> [summer@orange summer]$
>
> The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there.
>
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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
They're quite old, and hence vulnerable.  I agree that if Pat's company paid
for support after the install that DSG should be able to provide them with
updated versions.  I've probably got newer versions laying around for SuSE
7.0 myself.  I should probably go look for them.

Mark Post

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From: Adam Thornton [mailto:athornton@;sinenomine.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:41 PM
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:46:42PM -0500, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
> installed by Denver Solutions for me.

Unless you explicitly have no post-installation support from Denver
Solutions, you should also probably get your money's worth by asking
them about it.  Although Mark has identified the issue and where to get
the appropriate RPMs.  OpenSSH went through a spate of vulnerabilities
though, and I don't know offhand if the ones there are secure or not.
Ideally you want one of the 3.x OpenSSH versions with privilege
separation.

Adam



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:39:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> > rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages
>
[ snip ]
>
> The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there.

Red Hat ships with a newer version of RPM than SuSE.  Red Hat has used RPM
4.x for quite some time, while SuSE still uses RPM 3.x.  The capabilities
are a little different, but using:
   rpm -qa | grep -i ssh
should work just fine regardless of the version of RPM used.

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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:46:42PM -0500, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
> installed by Denver Solutions for me.

Unless you explicitly have no post-installation support from Denver
Solutions, you should also probably get your money's worth by asking
them about it.  Although Mark has identified the issue and where to get
the appropriate RPMs.  OpenSSH went through a spate of vulnerabilities
though, and I don't know offhand if the ones there are secure or not.
Ideally you want one of the 3.x OpenSSH versions with privilege
separation.

Adam



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >> try this
> >> rpm -qa | grep ssh
>
> >or in one command,
> >rpm -qa '*ssh*'
>
>  # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages

Odd. I see you quoted it too.
[summer@orange summer]$ rpm -qa '*ssh*'
openssh-server-3.4p1-2
openssh-clients-3.4p1-2
openssh-askpass-gnome-3.4p1-2
kdessh-3.0.3-3
openssh-3.4p1-2
openssh-askpass-3.4p1-2
[summer@orange summer]$

The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there.


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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark . Pace
>> try this
>> rpm -qa | grep ssh

>or in one command,
>rpm -qa '*ssh*'

 # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:

> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.

openssh is on your Linux CD.


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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Mark D Pace wrote:

> >I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
> located.
> >This is not a Marist file system.
> >P. Abruzzese
>
> try this
> rpm -qa | grep ssh

or in one command,
rpm -qa '*ssh*'


> This will tell you if an ssh package has been installed.

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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat,

Perhaps it wasn't installed.  If you're running the original SuSE
distribution, you need to go to ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/7.0/sec1 and
download the RPMs there.  You should probably install mod_ssl.rpm,
openssh.rpm and openssl.rpm.  It wouldn't hurt to install the others as
well.  The versions there are old, so you might want to be adventurous and
get the source RPMs from ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/7.0/zq1 and use the
.spec files in them to use as models for building current versions.  (I know
that sounds like a lot of work, and it is.  But, that's what running an old
distribution will cause. :(  )

If you're running the later SuSE distribution, or Red Hat, the needed RPMs
will be amongst the other RPMs for installation.  (CD 1 for SuSE.)

Mark Post

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From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:39 PM
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Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

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> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark,

I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
installed by Denver Solutions for me.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
>I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
located.
>This is not a Marist file system.
>P. Abruzzese

try this
rpm -qa | grep ssh

This will tell you if an ssh package has been installed.




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Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat,

It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).

Mark Post

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From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET


My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
Linux.

vr,

P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
AFAIK all vanilla installs of Linux for s390 have ssh installed and ready
for use.



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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> Where can I get SSH for Linux.

http://www.openssh.com/ worked for me on the original SLES for S/390.

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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Martin
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On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
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Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
Linux.

vr,

P. Abruzzese